I cannot thank you enough Ray! After going from dealer to dealer and many shops for years unable to find the root cause, you were able to solve this one. I’m so grateful for all the time and effort you put into this fix. Thank you x100!
The last of my cars that I regularly repaired myself was my 65 Ford Galaxie 500, 390 Windsor. By the time I finally had to replace that one, they had started adding more and more gadgets that I did not understand and did not have the diagnostic equipment to continue repairing my own.
Keep in mind, that the dealer only cares about separating you, from your inch of Benjamins. It’s the oldest trick in the book. They make money, just to even look at your vehicle.
Many mechanics get their starts in dealerships. It means chances are you've got a kid who doesn't know too much working on your vehicle. They also have it drilled into them that OE parts are perfect and all aftermarket parts will cause the car to explode. So typical diagnosis starts by looking for aftermarket parts, followed by replacing everything related to the fault if no aftermarket parts can be found.
Checking the new part to verify it work's plus finding the reason old part was malfunctioning, shows the customer and us that your not a parts changer. Good video Ray
I did a tune-up on my 79 Honda Accord 40 years ago and soon had all sorts of engine trouble that I could never resolve. I didn't suspect any of the new parts. After a dealer service visit, I found that the trouble was with the Champion spark plugs; several were defective. The service advisor told me that they had experienced a spare of failures due to Champion spark plugs. I never used another one since.
Brilliantly diagnosed. I just hope ‘Wife Unit’ appreciates how clever you are! 😉🤣 The only think I miss in your videos now is the old ‘phone ‘doodley-doos’! 👍 Great video, Ray. Thank you.
i think the doodeydoodeydoos were to make light of an otherwise frustrating thing, being under the gun, each new call meant more work and required faster pace/less quality work/more parts cannon. it was funny though, i like how he makes the best of things
Agree totally... it's much better to spend the time and find the real issue. However maybe sometimes it's actually cheaper and quicker to swap a few parts out... which is what many customers would be happy with. In this case that approach didn't work, so a real diagnosis was required.
From an old helicopter guy, good trouble shooting Ray! We often fall victim to the “faulty replacement part syndrome”. Many of our replacements are overhauled or repaired and all too often, the fault that they went in to get fixed can’t be duplicated and they come back with the same issue. This causes you to second guess yourself and go on a great wild goose chase when your first conclusion was correct. Fortunately, most repairable or overhaul- able parts have a component history record and/or other documentation that details the maintenance and fault history of the part and allows you to say, “Aha! It’s done this before.” Carry on sir.
How great is it to have your own business where you can confirm problems to your own satisfaction rather than being pressured to go so far and be told to fire the managers parts cannon!
You got your very own "Peter" now ! When you worked for the previous shop, Peter was just on lease because you didn't pay his salary. Now you got a Peter named Troy that's your very own ! 🙂
Diagnostic hell! An intermittent fault that you can't duplicate combined with the actual issue being a part that had been replaced.... Valuable lesson right there. Just because its been replaced, doesn't mean it's good!
Ray, when I think about why I follow you, it's because you are educational and entertaining in a humorous way. This job reinforces to me that you are in addition a skilled diagnostician. You have accomplished what multiple other shops, including a dealership, have failed to identify. You continue to impress.......
My morning routine… Quiet time/ prayer time Coffee Breakfast and last nights nbc news Then Rainman and second cup of coffee. Jesus was here. Juan Valdez was here. Lester Holt was here but where were you this am? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice diagnosis Ray . Even though others had seen it was new and overlooked it, you had a good diag plan, and proved it. Fuel inside may have contributed or it's just a dorman fail. They can send their other new one back, or something, or not. You did better than the rest . I thought you might find a blockage or something weird and I guessed wrong.
Hey Ray, hope you and Wife Unit had a great vacation Can't wait to see the new rollup door and lif going in along with new fan and light. Have yourself a good day.
imagine trying to work out the problem without the proper tools. impossible id say, thats when you end up with a parts cannon... lack of proper tools or lack of knowledge. Ray is awesome
I got one for the home garage. It's really helpful for tracing vacuum leaks. I had a leaky intake gasket causing a helluva rich condition and the smoke machine found it right away. Much better than the ol carb cleaner/RPM method.
@@Bellboy40 One of the very first lessons I was taught as a small engine mechanic. I've got to admit though, that I've had to be reminded of this a couple of times!
Dorman strikes again. A great video as always Ray. I further like when you reassemble stuff in a more proper way then a prior person as to that zip tied filter.
Cheap china knock off. I like using OEM parts. This part was designed in Canada and manufactured in Juarez Mexico by Then Siemens VDO now in service. (now company called Vitesco)
Yep. Leak detection. Called an ESIM switch on the newer ones. Does the same thing but it's smaller and it's connected to the canister. Ran across it a lot on police cars
Ok, this video has been a major help with my Chevrolet Impala, 2012. I have been getting p0495 codes on this car, with similar engine symptoms. I located the similar vent switch on driver side fender well. Also used the same BG products my last oil change. The car is behaving like when new, thank you for the help😁👍
The part you were pushing up and down is called the poppet and it seals on the Poppet seal.(rubber over moulded on plastic) you need the seal to allow the valve to check for leaks in the EVAP system. But build up of dust, carbon even plastic can cause a leak. This is first generation NVLD with a solenoid. Hope was that the solenoid would move the poppet up and down causing a wiping action to eliminate any build up of contaminates. FYI, the wavy seal is not good. This part you are using is a cheap china knockoff. I worked on the original design and launch. MFG in NA
Ray, the electrical contacts in the top cap of that valve are how those monitor for fuel system leaks. Once under vacuum that plunger will be held in position by vacuum. Chryslers don’t use a pressure transducer for monitoring vacuum decay like GM, they use that switch. It is VERY common for those plungers to get stuck requiring replacement. Usually they get stuck due to a small amount of debris (the plunger and body are very close tolerance), but in the case of this particular Charger, potential exposure to liquid gasoline may have caused the plunger to swell. Great job finding it yourself!
Top notch diagnostic work, Ray. Not everyone understands how the systems work on these modern automobiles. Unfortunately there's a lot of professional part changers calling themselves mechanics.
Just watched this video on the hesitation of the car at idle, great information, I have a 2003 Dakota that does the same thing and could not figure out where to start. Now thanks to your video I know where to look for the problem.
Awesome,awesome,awesome. It’s so nice to see someone taking the time to not only correctly diagnose a problem but willing to take the time to do so. I’m so fearful of having to take anyone of our vehicles to a mechanic and thankfully for the last 50 years that has only happened 2 times and I don’t drive new vehicles,one is a 1976 corvette,2001 320 bmw, 2008 dodge ram hemi.
dude you have honestly been one of my favorite youtubers I've been watching you the last year and a half you truly deserve a bigger fan base p.s you should have wifey do way more merch designs
So hard to find a good mechanic- come and go, in a hurry as quick as possible and money is the only thing that matters. Experience, good diagnosis and reasonable prices are impossible to find. The amount of tools necessary, a lift, equipment, computer and subscription and space along with everything else needed is overwhelming. You are one in a million.
I have a great appreciation for your determination. You don't cut and run until it no longer makes sense to continue. My personal experience is that most technicians look for some small excuse to quit. Once I sent a van into a local independent for a severe hesitation and long crank time. What I got was a bill for a spark plug wire and a coolant hose. I then finished the diagnosis and installed an inexpensive fuel pump which remedied the complaint completely, for a fraction of the diag and plug wire.
This is the same symptom on my BMW E46. The purge valve failed in the open position. Fueling the tank agitates the petrol and produces a lot of vapour which finds its way into the intake manifold producing a super rich mixture and the car wont start until you have cranked it over a few times. It should initially produce negative short term fuel trims as the DME reduces the injector pulse width to a point where you're getting no fuel. Hence the temporary no start condition. As the manifold clears with cranking the DME returns the injector pulse width to normal and the engine starts.
Intermittent failures are so hard to track down. Every mechanic/troubleshooter hates them. We never want to assume a 'new/newish' part is bad , but when all else fails we have to backtrack. Great job listening to your gut.
I make the body sides for that vehicle where I work. We laser weld steel blanks for all the car makers then send them to get stamped out . I also do the front doors for the Camero..
Great job, Ray. We plebes without smoke machines doing driveway repairs might have to resort to blowing through a vent valve in a situation like this. Daughter: "What's that?" Me (after blowing through valve the wrong way): "Oh...about 89 Octane." 😆
omg Ray. Suddenly I saw it. A carnival. You. A booth. Little row of tin cars snaking back and forth. And a big foam cannon shooting at the cars various foam parts as kids try to knock over the cars trying to win that stuffy for their loved one.... BRILLIANT!
I watched your last video and noticed you was just like "this is new that's new" and you wasn't testing it. I was like new parts can be defective and I know you know that so why isn't he testing them 😂 glad you found the problem lol
Ray, all I got to say is your Diag skillz are second to NONE. Well done on finding that problem and fixing it and hopefully it will solve the stalling problem.
I’m no expert,I’m retired from the m/c industry from 25+ years ago. I don’t understand why a valve stuck open won’t allow air into the tank, therefore not allow a tank vaccum and prevent the fuel starvation. I’m sure my old shop neighbors the California Air Resources Board, has come up with more complex systems. I ‘m very impressed with how you can reason on the fly and overpower the diagnostics and Work the systems. My early exposure to the now antiquated systems have, in all fairness improved dramatically! We had new BMW’s dying on test rides because of kinked “vent hoses” in the vapor recirculating systems. The vapor “recovery” system in the Fresno heat would dump so much fuel into the crankcase that the motors would idle without the fuel tank attached and the carburetor float bowls drained. Sorry, I digress!
Thanks. I followed your diagnostics and had some of the same questions. Now that you found the problem, it seems obvious what the issue was. Good info for a future potential problem. Being part of the fuel system, they could have made the valve fuel resistant. Note the new valve hat some red sealant on the valve seal, maybe they found the issue and fixed it.
Great Diag Ray !!! [with a serious note of sarcasm] You changed the part that didn't already get replaced. You get the credit for finding the problem (probably), the customer gets to pay another repair bill. Life goes on......
All that vent equipment to prevent evaporated fuel fumes from getting to the atmosphere. One has to wonder about the how cost/benefit analysis plays out for that. Not to mention the driveability/reliability issues that present themselves when the system breaks down.
Did a quick google search on that NVLD part. NVLD stands for "Natural Vacuum Leak Detection". From what I am reading, it "allows the fuel tank to breathe". not entirely sure what that means, but at least I now know the full name of this thing you were replacing/working on.
Just for the heck of it...i called my local house of Mopar...an OE one runs in the neighborhood of $285 ...not a cheap puppy...thus why Dorman sells so many parts.
Thanks for this. I bought my '06 Daytona new in '05 and experienced the gas tank rollover issue before it was a recall. I argued with Dodge and they replaced the tank and other components for $100 out of pocket for me. I have never had an issue since. But I only have 72k miles on my Daytona. I still love this car and have no plans to ever sell it. Keep on keepin' on!
Thank you. I have the exact same problem with my Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 I purchased a new valve and it did not fix the glitch. I replaced the new one and boom... fixed.
Weird. I’m a lube tech at a Chevrolet dealership. After a long day I watch someone work on more stuff and I’m completely entertained right before my second shift as a line cook
I had a similar problem after I fuel up the car would not start. Had into the dealership they couldn't fix it. I went through the system changed primery & secondary purge valves, problem solved have a great day
Thanks Ray, you have my reasoning also: never always trust replacement parts. You and Eric O. up in NY, at South Main Auto, are two best on UA-cam I've seen fixing today's modern vehicles. A lot of brain busting but you kept with it and found the problem. Bravo! You two together would be dangerous to put other lesser so-called mechanics out of business!
Some parts should be replaced with OEM only and you're not really saving money using sub-standard aftermarket parts. I've been burned by Dorman parts many times. That's a guaranteed come-back.
I cannot thank you enough Ray! After going from dealer to dealer and many shops for years unable to find the root cause, you were able to solve this one. I’m so grateful for all the time and effort you put into this fix. Thank you x100!
Yeah, Ray's the man. Just a reminder don't top off to the brim if you ever top up fuel. Pump nozzle click and that's it.
Stay away from Dorman parts period...
Just say *no* to Dorman.
The last of my cars that I regularly repaired myself was my 65 Ford Galaxie 500, 390 Windsor. By the time I finally had to replace that one, they had started adding more and more gadgets that I did not understand and did not have the diagnostic equipment to continue repairing my own.
It's a crying shame the dealer couldn't figure that one out, but RAY did..... Great job sir.
Keep in mind, that the dealer only cares about separating you, from your inch of Benjamins. It’s the oldest trick in the book. They make money, just to even look at your vehicle.
Many mechanics get their starts in dealerships. It means chances are you've got a kid who doesn't know too much working on your vehicle. They also have it drilled into them that OE parts are perfect and all aftermarket parts will cause the car to explode. So typical diagnosis starts by looking for aftermarket parts, followed by replacing everything related to the fault if no aftermarket parts can be found.
probably why the guys that know don't work for dealers
@@DreamGamingS2 And upselling work that isn't necessary. There is a Chevy dealership in Dallas that to this day I still owe an a**kicking. 😡
Great diagnostic, I’m sure the customer will be happy. Remind them not to top off the tank.
Great diagnostic video...really enjoyed your dogged determination and the proof you came up with.
Wouldn't that be his "Dodged" determination?😂
Checking the new part to verify it work's plus finding the reason old part was malfunctioning, shows the customer and us that your not a parts changer. Good video Ray
I did a tune-up on my 79 Honda Accord 40 years ago and soon had all sorts of engine trouble that I could never resolve. I didn't suspect any of the new parts. After a dealer service visit, I found that the trouble was with the Champion spark plugs; several were defective. The service advisor told me that they had experienced a spare of failures due to Champion spark plugs. I never used another one since.
Brilliantly diagnosed. I just hope ‘Wife Unit’ appreciates how clever you are! 😉🤣
The only think I miss in your videos now is the old ‘phone ‘doodley-doos’! 👍
Great video, Ray. Thank you.
i think the doodeydoodeydoos were to make light of an otherwise frustrating thing, being under the gun, each new call meant more work and required faster pace/less quality work/more parts cannon. it was funny though, i like how he makes the best of things
Ray does it again. Great diagnosis skills are what separates a real mechanic from a parts exchanger.
Campy---So True...
Agree totally... it's much better to spend the time and find the real issue. However maybe sometimes it's actually cheaper and quicker to swap a few parts out... which is what many customers would be happy with. In this case that approach didn't work, so a real diagnosis was required.
Broken Dorman part? unbelievable.
Working at Uh-Oh Zone for a year, all I can say is "If I had dollar..."
But but made in china parts are the best said no one !!!
Yep never would dorman be a junk part, they sell the highest quality parts ever.😅
Idk, I have saved a ton of money replacing parts with Dorman, then selling the car😂
Not everyone can afford oem. Stop hating
From an old helicopter guy, good trouble shooting Ray! We often fall victim to the “faulty replacement part syndrome”. Many of our replacements are overhauled or repaired and all too often, the fault that they went in to get fixed can’t be duplicated and they come back with the same issue. This causes you to second guess yourself and go on a great wild goose chase when your first conclusion was correct. Fortunately, most repairable or overhaul- able parts have a component history record and/or other documentation that details the maintenance and fault history of the part and allows you to say, “Aha! It’s done this before.” Carry on sir.
I'll have to remember that I have a 2007 Daytona RT over 300,000 miles on it and it's still running great😂
Thomas--That's a Miracle as I have Owned two Chrysler Vehicles and Both of them were Triple Lemons...
I suspect your customer will be very happy/satisfied with the diagnostic and repair. Excellent video sir.
700 AutoZone employees mad as heck.
Intermittent problems are the WORST - Great job!
How great is it to have your own business where you can confirm problems to your own satisfaction rather than being pressured to go so far and be told to fire the managers parts cannon!
Dorman strikes again, quality parts that work sometimes.
Dorman electronics have always kinda sucked
Sometimes for a short while. My theory is if the part is easy to reach and change use a doormat otherwise I get OEM or premium as I can.
Troy did a great job 👏
I’ve even heard overfilling the tank up into the filler tube can cause this.
True.
True. When the pump clicks off....time to hang the hose back up, and put the cap back on. Filling it further can wreck your emissions systems.
Ray You are the man. Tracking problems until they are fixed after all the parts changers failed. Way to go!
He should follow the owner to the gas station and confirm that there isn't also user error involved.
@@kampar82 What problems might occur at the filling station?
@@kampar82 I understand now that over filling the tank messed up the evap system.
So Yes teach that person how to pump gas!
Love your extreme diagnosis, only way to go , I'm a back yard mechanic & watching your videos helped me out a lot sir ...thank you 👍💯
Well done Ray! Excellent diagnostic work.
You got your very own "Peter" now ! When you worked for the previous shop, Peter was just on lease because you didn't pay his salary. Now you got a Peter named Troy that's your very own ! 🙂
12:08 I am sure Mrs. Rainman would agree there is a stud in the wheel well too! 😋😉😁 Fantastic diagnostic and fix!
Diagnostic hell! An intermittent fault that you can't duplicate combined with the actual issue being a part that had been replaced....
Valuable lesson right there. Just because its been replaced, doesn't mean it's good!
Ray, when I think about why I follow you, it's because you are educational and entertaining in a humorous way. This job reinforces to me that you are in addition a skilled diagnostician. You have accomplished what multiple other shops, including a dealership, have failed to identify.
You continue to impress.......
I appreciate your diagnostics on the old new part and the new part verifying!
I really love these diagnostic videos. And it was also nice to get a glimpse behind the scenes with that part ordering. That was refreshing new
My morning routine…
Quiet time/ prayer time
Coffee
Breakfast and last nights nbc news
Then Rainman and second cup of coffee.
Jesus was here.
Juan Valdez was here.
Lester Holt was here but where were you this am?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice diagnosis Ray .
Even though others had seen it was new and overlooked it, you had a good diag plan, and proved it.
Fuel inside may have contributed or it's just a dorman fail.
They can send their other new one back, or something, or not.
You did better than the rest .
I thought you might find a blockage or something weird and I guessed wrong.
Never ceases to amaze me how you save your customer the heartbreak of losing both their mode of transportation and wallets. You're a real one Ray!
Let hear it for Dorman Parts!! Yea, !!
Hey Ray, hope you and Wife Unit had a great vacation
Can't wait to see the new rollup door and lif going in along with new fan and light. Have yourself a good day.
I'm impressed with the smoke machine.. and the person doing it
imagine trying to work out the problem without the proper tools. impossible id say, thats when you end up with a parts cannon... lack of proper tools or lack of knowledge. Ray is awesome
I got one for the home garage. It's really helpful for tracing vacuum leaks. I had a leaky intake gasket causing a helluva rich condition and the smoke machine found it right away. Much better than the ol carb cleaner/RPM method.
You found the "smoking gun" (valve). thanks for the video Ray
Great catch Ray just because a parts new doesn’t mean it’s good.
Right! A part is new doesn't mean it is good... it means it is not used. (Saying by Rainman Ray)
@@Bellboy40 One of the very first lessons I was taught as a small engine mechanic. I've got to admit though, that I've had to be reminded of this a couple of times!
New means Never Ever Worked!
Dorman strikes again. A great video as always Ray. I further like when you reassemble stuff in a more proper way then a prior person as to that zip tied filter.
Cheap china knock off. I like using OEM parts. This part was designed in Canada and manufactured in Juarez Mexico by Then Siemens VDO now in service. (now company called Vitesco)
Like Ivan from PHAD says, whenever you see the "Flying Wings" logo, that represents your money flying away.
Ironically when you pointed out that valve had been replaced I thought to myself "just because it's new doesn't mean it's good" yep you got got🤣
outstanding as always Ray your the best love the part two but the most important thing is to have yourself a great day Ray
Yep. Leak detection. Called an ESIM switch on the newer ones. Does the same thing but it's smaller and it's connected to the canister. Ran across it a lot on police cars
Good to see you back making Vids Ray! We missed you! I hope you had a great time on your vacation. Earl and Jean Harrell.
Rainman Ray's Repairs.. Another awesome video brother. Cool diagnoses.
12:04 Nice Devo reference. Nice diagnosis, too.
That must be best diagnostic video ever!
Ok, this video has been a major help with my Chevrolet Impala, 2012. I have been getting p0495 codes on this car, with similar engine symptoms. I located the similar vent switch on driver side fender well. Also used the same BG products my last oil change. The car is behaving like when new, thank you for the help😁👍
The part you were pushing up and down is called the poppet and it seals on the Poppet seal.(rubber over moulded on plastic) you need the seal to allow the valve to check for leaks in the EVAP system. But build up of dust, carbon even plastic can cause a leak. This is first generation NVLD with a solenoid. Hope was that the solenoid would move the poppet up and down causing a wiping action to eliminate any build up of contaminates. FYI, the wavy seal is not good. This part you are using is a cheap china knockoff. I worked on the original design and launch. MFG in NA
Ray, the electrical contacts in the top cap of that valve are how those monitor for fuel system leaks. Once under vacuum that plunger will be held in position by vacuum. Chryslers don’t use a pressure transducer for monitoring vacuum decay like GM, they use that switch. It is VERY common for those plungers to get stuck requiring replacement. Usually they get stuck due to a small amount of debris (the plunger and body are very close tolerance), but in the case of this particular Charger, potential exposure to liquid gasoline may have caused the plunger to swell.
Great job finding it yourself!
And everyone was thinking it was a bad fuse connection in the trunk Ray done proved them wrong again !!!
I’m going to check that out later.
Top notch diagnostic work, Ray. Not everyone understands how the systems work on these modern automobiles. Unfortunately there's a lot of professional part changers calling themselves mechanics.
Just watched this video on the hesitation of the car at idle, great information, I have a 2003 Dakota that does the same thing and could not figure out where to start. Now thanks to your video I know where to look for the problem.
Awesome,awesome,awesome. It’s so nice to see someone taking the time to not only correctly diagnose a problem but willing to take the time to do so. I’m so fearful of having to take anyone of our vehicles to a mechanic and thankfully for the last 50 years that has only happened 2 times and I don’t drive new vehicles,one is a 1976 corvette,2001 320 bmw, 2008 dodge ram hemi.
So glad I got closure with the 2 part video.
Awesome job man.
dude you have honestly been one of my favorite youtubers I've been watching you the last year and a half you truly deserve a bigger fan base p.s you should have wifey do way more merch designs
This is the difference between putting in the trouble shooting and just easter egging the parts! Nice
So hard to find a good mechanic- come and go, in a hurry as quick as possible and money is the only thing that matters. Experience, good diagnosis and reasonable prices are impossible to find. The amount of tools necessary, a lift, equipment, computer and subscription and space along with everything else needed is overwhelming. You are one in a million.
I have a great appreciation for your determination. You don't cut and run until it no longer makes sense to continue. My personal experience is that most technicians look for some small excuse to quit. Once I sent a van into a local independent for a severe hesitation and long crank time. What I got was a bill for a spark plug wire and a coolant hose. I then finished the diagnosis and installed an inexpensive fuel pump which remedied the complaint completely, for a fraction of the diag and plug wire.
This is the same symptom on my BMW E46. The purge valve failed in the open position. Fueling the tank agitates the petrol and produces a lot of vapour which finds its way into the intake manifold producing a super rich mixture and the car wont start until you have cranked it over a few times. It should initially produce negative short term fuel trims as the DME reduces the injector pulse width to a point where you're getting no fuel. Hence the temporary no start condition. As the manifold clears with cranking the DME returns the injector pulse width to normal and the engine starts.
Your the man....Ray, shame all the other guys attempts weren't as thorough as yours..😳 Shows you really enjoy yourvwork and have a great work ethic. 👍
Intermittent failures are so hard to track down. Every mechanic/troubleshooter hates them.
We never want to assume a 'new/newish' part is bad , but when all else fails we have to backtrack.
Great job listening to your gut.
I make the body sides for that vehicle where I work. We laser weld steel blanks for all the car makers then send them to get stamped out . I also do the front doors for the Camero..
Yep, never quit! Very good.
Very impressive diagnostic skills.
Great job, Ray. We plebes without smoke machines doing driveway repairs might have to resort to blowing through a vent valve in a situation like this.
Daughter: "What's that?"
Me (after blowing through valve the wrong way): "Oh...about 89 Octane."
😆
omg Ray. Suddenly I saw it. A carnival. You. A booth. Little row of tin cars snaking back and forth. And a big foam cannon shooting at the cars various foam parts as kids try to knock over the cars trying to win that stuffy for their loved one.... BRILLIANT!
Great job troubleshooting.
I watched your last video and noticed you was just like "this is new that's new" and you wasn't testing it. I was like new parts can be defective and I know you know that so why isn't he testing them 😂 glad you found the problem lol
Nice job finding the issue on this car
Brightly colored sporty looking car. Ticket magnet.
🎯
Ray, all I got to say is your Diag skillz are second to NONE. Well done on finding that problem and fixing it and hopefully it will solve the stalling problem.
Great work… not giving up , wonderful
Just noticed. Congratulations on 1/2 million subscribers. That’s huge!
I’m no expert,I’m retired from the m/c industry from 25+ years ago. I don’t understand why a valve stuck open won’t allow air into the tank, therefore not allow a tank vaccum and prevent the fuel starvation. I’m sure my old shop neighbors the California Air Resources Board, has come up with more complex systems. I ‘m very impressed with how you can reason on the fly and overpower the diagnostics and Work the systems. My early exposure to the now antiquated systems have, in all fairness improved dramatically! We had new BMW’s dying on test rides because of kinked “vent hoses” in the vapor recirculating systems. The vapor “recovery” system in the Fresno heat would dump so much fuel into the crankcase that the motors would idle without the fuel tank attached and the carburetor float bowls drained. Sorry, I digress!
If it can stick open, it can stick closed
Thanks. I followed your diagnostics and had some of the same questions. Now that you found the problem, it seems obvious what the issue was. Good info for a future potential problem. Being part of the fuel system, they could have made the valve fuel resistant. Note the new valve hat some red sealant on the valve seal, maybe they found the issue and fixed it.
Great Diag Ray !!! [with a serious note of sarcasm] You changed the part that didn't already get replaced. You get the credit for finding the problem (probably), the customer gets to pay another repair bill. Life goes on......
I refuse to believe a Dorman part failed. They're the standard of excellence in car parts.
All that vent equipment to prevent evaporated fuel fumes from getting to the atmosphere. One has to wonder about the how cost/benefit analysis plays out for that. Not to mention the driveability/reliability issues that present themselves when the system breaks down.
Great to have you back
Great Job Smarty Pants!
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Well done Ray! Storing said video into memory bank for future reference! 👍🏼
Did a quick google search on that NVLD part. NVLD stands for "Natural Vacuum Leak Detection". From what I am reading, it "allows the fuel tank to breathe". not entirely sure what that means, but at least I now know the full name of this thing you were replacing/working on.
I just love your troubleshooting videos!
Those videos are the best. I like watching Ivan at Pine Hallow Diagnostics for that reason. Always fixing things the other shops couldnt.
Excellence at its best 👍
You are a master of diagnostics!!!
Bad Dorman part go figure, nice catch Ray, excellent job.
I'm happy for you. That has to be a much cheaper repair than what I suspected was the problem.
A great job fixing this one 👏 👌 👍
Just for the heck of it...i called my local house of Mopar...an OE one runs in the neighborhood of $285 ...not a cheap puppy...thus why Dorman sells so many parts.
RainMan great Diagnosis you found the problem. UR Very determined searching and found the issue. You are the man.
Thanks for this. I bought my '06 Daytona new in '05 and experienced the gas tank rollover issue before it was a recall. I argued with Dodge and they replaced the tank and other components for $100 out of pocket for me. I have never had an issue since. But I only have 72k miles on my Daytona. I still love this car and have no plans to ever sell it. Keep on keepin' on!
Thank you. I have the exact same problem with my Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 I purchased a new valve and it did not fix the glitch. I replaced the new one and boom... fixed.
Way to go! You win again! Nice troubleshooting and diagnostics.
Ray you are mister magic with cars good diagnosis very impressive
Great trace diagnostics... Your right, even if it looks new it could be bad.
Your thoroughness is enlightening, and wonderful too...
Good job. The commenters on the last video had me convinced it was the relays malfunctioning.
Good catch Ray
Weird. I’m a lube tech at a Chevrolet dealership. After a long day I watch someone work on more stuff and I’m completely entertained right before my second shift as a line cook
Good Repair only time will tell if the problem is resolved @Rainman Ray's Repairs
I had a similar problem after I fuel up the car would not start. Had into the dealership they couldn't fix it. I went through the system changed primery & secondary purge valves, problem solved have a great day
Another brilliantly diagnosed problem and repair. You da man, Ray.
Thanks Ray, you have my reasoning also: never always trust replacement parts. You and Eric O. up in NY, at South Main Auto, are two best on UA-cam I've seen fixing today's modern vehicles. A lot of brain busting but you kept with it and found the problem. Bravo! You two together would be dangerous to put other lesser so-called mechanics out of business!
Some parts should be replaced with OEM only and you're not really saving money using sub-standard aftermarket parts. I've been burned by Dorman parts many times. That's a guaranteed come-back.
I agree OE parts for emissions components