Professor Finklestein is second to none truth seeker and humanitarian. We are truly blessed to have his ingenuous explanations on this matter, marvelous humble being
@@asmrnaturecat984It's rude at ANY AGE to be interrupted, especially when asked an opinion. Finkelstein is not THAT old, he's very articulate, has been speaking rather slowly, high-pitched voice, longish logical sentences, ever since I remember.
I dont get the not condemning Hamas at all! Say it how it is. Hamas is a terrorist group, but by attacking Palestinians, civilians indiscriminately, the I.D.F. is just another equally vile terrorist group . He is a terrible speaker!
Resistant groups are always labelled as terrorist, ironically by the mother of all terrorists i.e the collective west. Nelson Mandela & Che were also labelled as terrorists. What a joke 😂@@ezragonzalez8936
@@ezragonzalez8936 What makes you say that they attack indiscriminately? Are you there? They are very methodical, prepare the area in advance including give warnings in many different ways, provide corridors of safety which the IDF have to man because the snipers are Hamas which kill their own considered to be deserters.
Goat stands for Greatest Of All Time. It's a term created by the American black community and made famous by the rapper LL Cool J by his album "The GOAT"
He's wrong on two things. There's many testimonials to rape and the violation of anyones human rights is always wrong. There's no position you could be possibly in that would justify that. Because they are rights people have simply by being human
@@catsaresocute650 So the resistance went out with clear military & political aims, which was to cross over into Israel, to take hostages, and to use them as part of a negotiation to get back four thousand hostages which Israel had already taken. Do I condemn the planning and decision to undertake a mission to return already captured hostages ? No, I don't ! In the process of that mission its possible that things didn't go as planned, that some of the fighters acted out of hand, or came across a real circumstance that they handled incorrectly. Evidence needs to be brought to show how they deviated from their misson, and if they did they would be responsible for their wrongs. The planning, objectives & decision to undertake the mission remain clear and correct. And if we are to check on the particularities of the mission to retrieve hostages , by the resistance, than we must equally check on the particularities of every case in which is Israel took hostages. We must look at what their mission was and how they may have deviated from that mission. We must ask whether the outline of the mission had real, true and moral objectives , and whether the implementation was equally so....
He's acknowledged how Israel's treatment of Gazans gave rise to sociopathic violence in some hamas members.This is unsurprising & I wonder how peaceful you would be after living your life in a concentration camp? We can acknowledge the actions of killed civilians on oct7 as wrong but this doesn't mean we can't justify their rage & hatred towards towards oppressor. As u know with israels actions rn, children witnessing their siblings &family slaughtered will grow up to hate their oppressor & I for one do not blame them!
@@colinroach7815 … perhaps a regrettable expression of my ‘lack of affection’ for Finklestein, as I outline in my earlier comment … however, I’m sure you and I would agree on many other things (-:
@@petermcinerney6418 , thanks for the response. We can't always agree, this is true, but i am sure Mr. Finkelstein is not always in error, not even for you, that is an impossibility.... so is it that you simply don't like him, period ?
@@mychealleftfoot9030 He will never get the apology he deserves because the mainstream mind will never recognise the facts. They are too invested in their own lies.
I'm a Palestinian human rights activist for 20 years. I'm 36 now. I have lost all hope in humanity after witnessing everything I have so far. I can tell you that throughout these 20 years, only thing worse than seeing crimes Israel commits, is the world's callous indifference. I am numb.
@@tilda140sadly it’s taken this last year of genocide to make the Western people wake up, even if their politicians and media are still shilling for Israel.
Norman Finkelstein is beyond decent. When he speaks about his parents, he makes it clear that violence creates hate and hate opens up the road way towards violence.
"One childhood friend recalls his mother's "emotional investment in left-wing humanitarian causes as bordering on hysteria".......ah, that's where he gets it from.
@@CapeInsulation You've missed the point, which, given your abrupt terminology, is not surprising. NF is hysterical about the injustices of one side, while ignoring the injustices of the other, even though both his parents were killed among the 6 million in the Holocaust. The basis of this would seem to have been deep trauma developed in childhood.
@@peterodonnell3399 Wow, what an incredibly measured and eloquent respons Well, I’m convinced Thx Pete 👊🏾 You better get inside now The sun is coming up
@@peterodonnell3399 And of course you cannot be bothered to explain why because there is no explanation. Your free tube of IDF Schmaltz is in the mail.
"They have the right to hate you" most powerful, truthful words that I ever heard. Because no one before had the courage to destroy "Holocaust industry."
Even many non-human intellectual species demonstrate some level of vengeance like elephant, crow, whale, etc. So it is simply the instinct of intellectual beings. I don't think "right" is the best choice of word here, it is our nature to be vengeful when we are being suppressed for whatever reason. Dismissing this nature of man and expecting things can be settled with brute force is just foolish and unconstructive.
@@ultracapitalistutopia3550 Your explanation falls short in several aspects. People are enduring genocide (not by me according to international law), and once it ceases, I approach them, urging them not to respond in a manner similar to the perpetrators of the genocide. Why? Because it's morally reprehensible. My dear brother or sister, whatever you may be, countries worldwide refrain from imposing harsh penalties, including the death penalty, for a reason. Every court advises the relatives of victims against revenge, as it echoes the primitive vengeance we observe in animals like cows and elephants etc. Your argument is mere futile.
A few questions: 1. Is the population of the concentration camp suppose to grow or to decline? Somehow the population of Gaza has grown by 40% in the last 18 years. 2. Does the concentration camp usually has a backdoor to go out of the concentration camp? Because there is a border cross to the Arab Republic of Egypt - but of course, all the complains are towards Israel. Hypocrisy? 3. Do the prisoners of the concentration camp usually fire 10,000 rockets and possess tons of explosives and all kinds of weaponry? I have a few more, but let’s begin with these ones.
Norman Finkelstein is an absolute prepared man. Piers was dumbing down the conversation with repeated trope questions as if it all began on the 7th. Only to have Norman softly walk him back into humility using the Susan Boyle moment to overcome him into vunerable, calm and coherent then got the message of truth out without constant interuptions. Clinical calm sophistication, no bs.
Piers Morgan WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS, ETC
@@dominicparker6124 I can't decide if Morgan is just a cynic and a tyrant or whether he actually considers he has integrity and represents the people he looks down on.
First time I have listened to Norman Finkelstein and was very impressed by this man. I will certainly purchase some of his books. Thanks for bringing him on to your channel.
You can't point out the racism of AIPAC and the ADL without being fired from your academic posts and being sued by Dershovitz. They did the same thing to David Irving.
When Finkelstein talked about his parents in the concentration camp and the people of Gaza, I, as a Palestinian, felt shivers, but afterwards, I may have shed a tear or two.
Not possible, of course, Piers Morgan doesn't have a mind, he's an establishment tool that delivers whatever message his masters want him to. His bombastic obnoxiousness doesn't make him of any value to anyone.
Made even clearer by Piers cutting Norm’s interview short to bring on the pantomime villain masquerading as a journalist; Douglas Murray. In a pathetic attempt to immediately discredit everything Norman had said.
Agree with you, but at least Morgan possibly the only one on mainstream media gave pro Palestinians a platform ..... Yes he's doing it to get more viewers but he's given a voice to anti esreal ......
Norman Finkekstein made the best arguments for the Palestinians so far.. Surgical. Pure respect he's a man of honor and principles. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The tragedy of the people of Gaza is that they have always been pawns on somebody’s game. In the 1950s they played the Egyptian game, sending terror raids into Israel and suffering Israeli retaliation. Then they became pawns in the Soviet anti-American game under Arafat and PLO. And today they are pawns in the Iranian game under Hamas. Otherwise, if searched for their own reason and based on the large economies of Israel and Egypt, Gaza would prosper. Unfortunately, decades of wrong decisions brought Gazans to their current misery.
Morgan set about his usual guest-shaming routine but it went horribly wrong when he eventually went down the road of 'and what would your holocaust-survivor parents think of you and your support for the Palestinians?'. Finkelstein's honest answer was extraordinary, and the best come back ever on that grim-fest shame-show.
It was a fair question. Israel was setup as it became a diaspora Jew was not safe anywhere in the world. I am sure they would turn in their grave listening to their attention seeking son now. He probably has deep mental issues. He's definitely weird.
Theres is no such thing as justification thats meaningless theres only logical outcomes, put people in such conditions they react in predicable ways its like math
That’s exactly what the Israelis and allies think that they have nothing to lose except to gain more land/oil and be the only democracy in the Middle East but this is all according to them, ONLY but the rest of the world know better than to keep listening/buying their BULSHIT! As it seems Israel and Allies are very dangerous. I knew where you’re going with this comment but I had another narrative to it.
Oh and just in case you meant by your comment that the Palestinian people are dangerous because they’ve been murdered almost to the last member of the family and that last member would have nothing to lose you’d still be wrong because a life lost is a life lost. The PALESTINIAN people go about their every day life knowing what they have to lose but unlike those anywhere in the world yes they now and every day they have a little bit less to lose. LESS FAMILY-CHILDREN, PARENTS, PARTNERS, SISTERS, BROTHERS, COUSINS,AUNTS, UNCLES, NIECES, NEPHEWS and I think you get the point. This isn’t directly directed to you but to this whole conflict my friend.
Norman has been fighting for palestine for years and years...to see people all over the world wake up to these stupid politicians and their colonial idiocy. it is great to see. NORMAN is simply a human with a good heart, and big brains
Colonial? And millions of sq. kilometers conquered by Arabs are no colonial? Everything the Arabs have today is given them by the West. First, the Arab statehood came into existence after the West eliminated the Turkish Empire. Second, the Arab wealth comes from oil & gas explored by the West with the Western technologies and for the Western machinery. Before that most of the Arab areas were nothing more than sand and dust. Third, the political power of the Arab states comes due to the decision of the Western powers to create international institutions, especially the UN. Before that the Arab opinion barely interested anybody. Even the Suez Canal and the Egyptology as a science and a touristic business brought by the “colonial settlers”.
If anyone here in the USA was told to leave their home and property, they hire a lawyer, people in Gaza can’t. I guarantee people here would also retaliate.
They don’t hire a lawyer but plenty of lawyers expert in international law along with Arab and UN advocates represent them. Gaza’s economy and community are the same as any other in the Near East, it was not economically deprived until Oct 7. The restrictions on Gaza are to prevent transfer of arms and is compensated by the billions which pour in from the rest of the world.
@@paidapps733 I know and I wasn’t around in the 1492 lol I totally think that’s horrific as well. This is also why I think Thanksgiving is a dumb holiday.
@@carlabroderick5508 Why do you think there is a need for "transfer of arms"? Remember, you are talking about a concentration camp, an open air prison with no Army, Navy nor an Air Force. And before you say, because they would attack, please give us a few examples of Palestinian "terror acts" prior to 1948.
Chris Hedges should be on that list, but yes… there are good people that are keeping the world tethered to basic good and humanity, first and foremost ☝🏼❤️
norman literally grabbed a tiny shred o humanity he saw on piers, exposed him to it, made him remember that feeling and adapted his speech to impact him. that's brilliant
I was most surprised by the fact that Piers even LET Norman speak without interrupting him every few seconds. Norman was able to articulate some excellent points. This is what happens when Piers actually lets his Pro-Palestinian guests SPEAK.
@zhongli3652 I think Piers is at least barely smart enough to know that he should not dive in where Norm is swimming if he wants to intellectually survive even in the eyes of whoever is Piers' fan base.
Finally this point of view has been so clearly put. Sick of the constant pressure to condemn the oppressed‘s reaction to the oppressors. Disagree all you like with the tactics and effectiveness of it, be horrified by the acts, but never forget the root cause of such desperate action and that its horror originates in colonialism
The counter is too be sick of the new world view of oppression hierarchy. That any issue is viewed in isolation. The oppressed is determined using feelings. Then all actions of the oppressed are valid. The Germans saw themselves as the 'oppressed' that's how they justified their horrors. Be carful. Power isn't everything.
It would be incredible to witness a turning of all this hate and resentment through a mass awareness on both sides into something the future generation can build on.
@@Alticrooyour point has nothing to do with the present debate of the video. The thing to take from it is that Israel's colonialism is the original violence and while that issue is not addressed there's no real solution being offered
@@cemanz The Papua conflict is an ongoing conflict in Western New Guinea (Papua) between Indonesia and the Free Papua Movement (Indonesian: Organisasi Papua Merdeka, OPM). Subsequent to the withdrawal of the Dutch administration from the Netherlands New Guinea in 1962[25] and implementation of Indonesian administration in 1963,[26] the Free Papua Movement has conducted a low-intensity guerrilla war against Indonesia through the targeting of its military, police,[27] and civilian populations.[28] Papuan separatists have conducted protests and ceremonies, raising their flag for independence or calling for federation with Papua New Guinea,[27] and accuse the Indonesian government of indiscriminate violence and of suppressing their freedom of expression. Indonesia has also been accused of conducting a genocidal campaign[29] against the indigenous inhabitants. In a 2007 book, author De R. G. Crocombe wrote that an estimated 100,000 to 300,000 Papuans had been killed by Indonesian security forces,[23] and many women raped or subjected to other sexual violence.[30] Research on violence toward Papuan women[Note 1] by the Papuan Women's Working Group, together with the Asia Justice Rights (AJAR), found that 64 out of 170 (or 4 out of 10) Papuan women surveyed in 2013, 2017 experienced some form of state violence.[31] A more recent study in 2019 found that 65 out of 249 Papuan women shared such experiences.[Note 2][32][33] Indonesian governance in the region has been compared to that of a police state, involving the suppression of free political association and expression,[34] although others have noted conflicts in Papua are instead caused by the near or total absence of state involvement in some areas.[35] The Indonesian authorities continue to restrict foreign access to the region due to what they officially claim to be "safety and security concerns".[36] Some organizations have called for a peacekeeping mission in the area.[37][38]
theres nothing anyone can say to finkelstien , his parents were holocaust survivors & he still comes from the perspective of objective truth . i havent thought abt him in a few years but i remember watching his lectures / debates / interviews a while ago thinking ' dudes right '
I do really intellectually enjoy Norman Finkelstein and his lectures, video, etc. on youtube but whenever I watch him I'm always a bit more than concerned about his vague support of David Irving. Wish someone would clarify that for me cause its been a very problematic thorn in my mind.
@@Globaldave1970 Because he very cleverly criticised a book by a famous lawyer as plagiarism down to the comma and misspellings. That was the beginning of Mr. Finkelstein's misfortunes.
While everyone is too afraid of saying the truth because of the Israeli lobby, Finkelstein had the guts to stand his ground and say it. All respect to him
He's able to do it because of his family history and the fact he's a Jew. It's good that he (as a Jew) is open about the complexities of the situation and the responsibility the Israeli government has to respect basic humanity and international laws and principles.
His rhetoric works both ways.... do ya think the survivors of October 7th and their relatives want to have peace with the Palis? Or do they have the right to hate their sorry asses?
Morgan was in a situation he didnt like. He wasnt able to control the narrative. The man told the truth and morgan didnt like it. It was fantastic to see him keep his mouth shut.
@@lalaeurohe seems to be mistakened. Very much so. Concentration victims would not be able to paraglide into Israel and do what the terrorists did. What nonsense he spewed.
I am 80, a Catholic in UK and for decades I have felt a hopeless concern fir Palestinians. I have never discussed it but now, in my lifetime, I have enormous hope for freedom for Palestinians. I repeat 'in my lifetime', I see the world marching for Gaza and The West Bank. God bless them.
I just want to say THANK-YOU to Norman Finkelstein and Navara media. Your voices are incredibly needed to shed the truth in this world of mainstream media lies.
Norman Finkelstein is like a calm sea amongst a hurricane. He is intelligent and convincing in his steady logical thought process. He makes you understand Palestine has nothing left to lose except to fade away into oblivion.😢
This is one of the rare moments in my life, where I see someone brilliantly explain something, and realize I could never have done this. I am so used to thinking, I could have explained that better. But I could never have put that to Piers Morgan so eloquently, as did Norman Finklestein. Here I was aware, I was in the presence of greatness, and humbled.
In fairness he's been doing this a ~long~ time, dealing with pro-Israel arguments from people far more prepared and experienced than Piers Morgan. You can definitely learn a lot from how he structures his points and the way he recognises common ground instead of being adversarial though! Plus if people try to talk over him he just goes "WILL YOU PLEASE LET ME FINISH" until they stop, which is probably why Morgan isn't doing his usual Special Technique of shouting him down
Explained what? The tragedy of the people of Gaza is that they have always been pawns on somebody’s game. In the 1950s they played the Egyptian game, sending terror raids into Israel and suffering Israeli retaliation. Then they became pawns in the Soviet anti-American game under Arafat and PLO. And today they are pawns in the Iranian game under Hamas. Otherwise, if searched for their own reason and based on the large economies of Israel and Egypt, Gaza would prosper. Unfortunately, decades of wrong decisions brought Gazans to their current misery.
Piers Morgan is a complete Novice all he wants is for people to come on the show and say they condem Hamas and he will be happy no person in their right mind will say we condem Hamas after seeing what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for over 75 years. Why don't Piers Morgan move to Israel he won't have to worry about Hamas.
Piers is a cruel man. He was on Trumps reality TV show and I remember how cruel he was to the young black woman on the show. I forget her name. trump loved her but then he didn't, as he tends to do. Have a favorite and then fall out with them.
At least he's willing to give people the platform to debate even if he does try and talk over them sometimes. It is raising awareness, and that is the important thing
Jews are not a race. A lineage, yes. A race, no. Furthermore race is a created concept a few centuries old and when used what people really mean is ethnicity. And jews are a multi-ethnicity group with a great deal of diversity in the lineage. So no, its not one race hating another. Furthermore this misses the point. Listening to previous conversations where Norman makes the comparison to African slaves in the US and slave revolts it quickly becomes clear what exactly he means by the things said in the clip.
What I find troubling Is having to explain to people the obvious, when they should be asking themselves how they would respond in that situation. Just shows how narcissistic we've become!
I love Finkelstein, been in the Palestinian struggle for 40 years. Great mind, one of the few people that could make Britains got Talent sound so poetic.
Only a coward with no objectivity can have trouble answering that question. Its like asking an Irishman if he condemns the IRA bombings and he refuses to do it.
Come on bro, you seem a good person with a beautiful heart, why don't you study Quran ? Not forcing, but , what's the loss? Take it as an adventure , come on !
I watched the whole thing and Pierce really had nothing to say in response to most of it but his usual “but do you condemn Hamas” which made him look ridiculous after all the eloquent explanations Norman had given about the Palestinian struggle in Gaza. Pierce was out of his depth not being able to play the antisemitism card with Norman.
The most powerful thing about this interview for me was that a) you could see Piers’s moral calculus be nudged in real time b) that he lost some level of esteem for Douglas Murray in real time And the beautiful part that at no time did Norman “try” to convince Piers of anything. He just laid out his own position in a wonderfully competent and humane way. Bonus point c) Douglas Murray wet his posh pants at the thought of discussing with professor Finkelstein, because Douglas needs his followers to be dumb enough to believe that “they could have turned Gaza into Singapore” (what a vile and dishonest ducking excuse for a human being could honestly believe such a thing?!)
@@Globaldave1970 False. The reason why is that Douglas only has debunkable propagandist soundbites and appeals to emotion as his foundation for this issue. How could anyone with even a perfunctory grasp on the topic ever claim that Gaza could have become Singapore? Easy, they’re either ignorant or a liar. And Douglas knows he’d be exposed as one or the other.
" Israel cannot claim the right of ‘self-defence’ under international law because Gaza is a territory which it occupies ". by Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur
It is amazing how people talk about Nelson Mandela. Black South Africans lived better during apartheid than they live now. Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and that says everything. Now, South Africa is hell with violent crime everywhere. White South Africans can protect themselves behind their high walls, but what about those living in the townships? Hate and crime everywhere.
I see what your saying, but there is a part in your life when you want more amd more opportunities for you ppl and you want to go into places that don't allow you, more so not to be held back especially in your native country. Some ppl dream of becoming a leader a owner a policy maker, that's why apartheid should never exist cause now everything is shit and there are just two factions fighting against but for the same ideals just different colours. Now they may never hit the same hart strings and forever bitter and then the corruption that follows it never stops unless both groups agree that there is away to coexist
@@undercoveragent9889hardly. He's just a decent man. I'm sure like the rest of us he sees what a sold out dog Morgan is. He's just too much of a gentleman to say it.
He's serving a useful purpose at the moment, by giving people like Bassem Youssef and Norman Finkelstein a platform. He didn't take in a word either of them said, but other people were listening and he let them have their say.
Norman’s comment about giving up on the Palestinians was emotional. Heartbreaking actually. And that is exactly why whomever was in Piers’ ear told him to put a stop to it.
Norman Finkelstein is a highly intellectual person with compassion and humanity for the truth and fairness. I absolutely love and have a lot of respect for Norman Finkelstein his views and opinions ❤
The fact that pierce Morgan has to ensure he says "terror attack" instead of atrocities is very telling about the propaganda methods he is required to do on his show.
So every murderer or rapist can be justified on how he was raised? Is growing up in a densely populated area an excuse to burn innocent babies? Absolutely no comparison to the concentration camps. Those terrorists did not appear to be starving or lacking anything. Manipulating people by justifying gazans to behave worse than animals. Even though many of them had decent jobs in Israel and were treated nicely.
Norman Finkelstein is an incredible human being !!!!!!!!! He has compassion for operssed regardless what ethnic or religious grup they are. Always stand on the right side of humanity.
Professor Finklestein is second to none truth seeker and humanitarian. We are truly blessed to have his ingenuous explanations on this matter, marvelous humble being
A true man of God. Bless him
@@redpapuangoblinredpapuango2755 Which you canto cite or prove for it
@@redpapuangoblinredpapuango2755and I suppose uou know the facts better than an Academic and an expert on the issues of this conflict
And also, can you imagine how hard he's been working lately? To be truthful.
I'm an atheist but bless him.
Finklestein is the type that reminds that there are good people in any race.
As much as I hate watching Piers, Norman was one of those guests that can take charge without a loud argument. I have tons of respect for him.
The loud ones are usually the ones justifying genocide and ethnic cleansing
Respect Piers for the Platforms he has given
he doesnt have to shout and do all of that. CALM and deadly
Norman is already old and speak very slow, its just rude at his age to be interrupted
@@asmrnaturecat984It's rude at ANY AGE to be interrupted, especially when asked an opinion. Finkelstein is not THAT old, he's very articulate, has been speaking rather slowly, high-pitched voice, longish logical sentences, ever since I remember.
God Bless Norman Finkelstein's knowledge, honesty and courage
Aameen 🤲
That man is a warning to all. That Samuel in the Bible done it. Man is wisdom very unique.
I dont get the not condemning Hamas at all! Say it how it is. Hamas is a terrorist group, but by attacking Palestinians, civilians indiscriminately, the I.D.F. is just another equally vile terrorist group . He is a terrible speaker!
Resistant groups are always labelled as terrorist, ironically by the mother of all terrorists i.e the collective west. Nelson Mandela & Che were also labelled as terrorists. What a joke 😂@@ezragonzalez8936
@@ezragonzalez8936 What makes you say that they attack indiscriminately? Are you there? They are very methodical, prepare the area in advance including give warnings in many different ways, provide corridors of safety which the IDF have to man because the snipers are Hamas which kill their own considered to be deserters.
Dr. Norman Finklestein is the G.O.A.T., when humanity, heart, and intellect combine to form a great person.
I love it when someone is human first and foremost. 😊
Wtf does goat stand for?
Goat stands for Greatest Of All Time. It's a term created by the American black community and made famous by the rapper LL Cool J by his album "The GOAT"
Agree
Norman Finklestein what JBP should have been. Its beautiful the tormented palestinians have such a voice.
Great responses by prof finklestein.a genius and pure humanitarian.
He's wrong on two things. There's many testimonials to rape and the violation of anyones human rights is always wrong. There's no position you could be possibly in that would justify that. Because they are rights people have simply by being human
@@catsaresocute650
So the resistance went out with clear military & political aims, which was to cross over into Israel, to take hostages, and to use them as part of a negotiation to get back four thousand hostages which Israel had already taken.
Do I condemn the planning and decision to undertake a mission to return already captured hostages ? No, I don't !
In the process of that mission its possible that things didn't go as planned, that some of the fighters acted out of hand, or came across a real circumstance that they handled incorrectly.
Evidence needs to be brought to show how they deviated from their misson, and if they did they would be responsible for their wrongs.
The planning, objectives & decision to undertake the mission remain clear and correct.
And if we are to check on the particularities of the mission to retrieve hostages , by the resistance, than we must equally check on the particularities of every case in which is Israel took hostages. We must look at what their mission was and how they may have deviated from that mission.
We must ask whether the outline of the mission had real, true and moral objectives , and whether the implementation was equally so....
He's acknowledged how Israel's treatment of Gazans gave rise to sociopathic violence in some hamas members.This is unsurprising & I wonder how peaceful you would be after living your life in a concentration camp?
We can acknowledge the actions of killed civilians on oct7 as wrong but this doesn't mean we can't justify their rage & hatred towards towards oppressor.
As u know with israels actions rn, children witnessing their siblings &family slaughtered will grow up to hate their oppressor & I for one do not blame them!
I don’t think I have ever seen Piers let anyone speak for so long and not be interrupted. I have to agree with Mr Finkelstein’s opinion.
@@AndyUK-CorrivalNoam Chomsky.
Professor Norman Finkelstein, absolute treasure. 👍🏾👍🏾
❤ Hope
That would be ,cockroach’?
@@petermcinerney6418, what is "cockroach" ?
@@colinroach7815 … perhaps a regrettable expression of my ‘lack of affection’ for Finklestein, as I outline in my earlier comment … however, I’m sure you and I would agree on many other things (-:
@@petermcinerney6418 , thanks for the response. We can't always agree, this is true, but i am sure Mr. Finkelstein is not always in error, not even for you, that is an impossibility.... so is it that you simply don't like him, period ?
Norman Finklestein's years of fighting for Gaza were not in vain after all. He's being validated every single second of this horrific conflict.
I doubt thats any comfort to him.
And Jeremy Corbyn's ... that man is owed a massive apology.
@@mychealleftfoot9030 He will never get the apology he deserves because the mainstream mind will never recognise the facts. They are too invested in their own lies.
Mainly ignored (as usual)
The way piers tried to tarnish such a revered scholar on the matter was disgusting. But Finkelstein is too good at what he does, and he got him.
He's "resistant to BS", I admire that greatly about his character.
Exactly. The professor put the arrogant Piers in his place.
Even Candace Owens did a better job interviewing him 😀
NF turned the tables on Piers Morgan, in a professional way.
@@aneurindavies5943 Agree. Intellectually NF is on another level compared with Morgan
When Norman replied, "even I had given up," Def sobbed.
No matter which side of the issue you are on, he is a good man with a loving heart.
True
I'm a Palestinian human rights activist for 20 years. I'm 36 now. I have lost all hope in humanity after witnessing everything I have so far. I can tell you that throughout these 20 years, only thing worse than seeing crimes Israel commits, is the world's callous indifference. I am numb.
Right is right. Correct is correct.
This man has touched my heart in so many ways. ❤
@@tilda140sadly it’s taken this last year of genocide to make the Western people wake up, even if their politicians and media are still shilling for Israel.
Norman Finkelstein is beyond decent. When he speaks about his parents, he makes it clear that violence creates hate and hate opens up the road way towards violence.
"One childhood friend recalls his mother's "emotional investment in left-wing humanitarian causes as bordering on hysteria".......ah, that's where he gets it from.
He is riding off the backs of his parents.. Not once has he acknowledged the hostages as he is psychology disturbed hence the screaming.
"Left-wing humanitarian causes" vs "Right-wing give me my gun and F-off"
@@CapeInsulation You've missed the point, which, given your abrupt terminology, is not surprising. NF is hysterical about the injustices of one side, while ignoring the injustices of the other, even though both his parents were killed among the 6 million in the Holocaust. The basis of this would seem to have been deep trauma developed in childhood.
@@Globaldave1970 how could his parents have perished in the Holocaust as he was born in 1954 in New York?
Listening to Finkelstein sends shivers down my spine - he's so incredibly measured and eloquent
Almost crying listening to Finkelstein. They never had a chance.
and he's wrong
@@peterodonnell3399
Wow, what an incredibly measured and eloquent respons
Well, I’m convinced
Thx Pete 👊🏾
You better get inside now
The sun is coming up
@@peterodonnell3399 And of course you cannot be bothered to explain why because there is no explanation. Your free tube of IDF Schmaltz is in the mail.
@Joe-xo4yg peterodonnel convinced me.
That Dr Finkelstein is right again. And always.
Hearing Finkelstein speak brings a tear to my eyes 😢😢😢
you can hear the emotion and hurt in his words, especially towards the end
It has done to me. A beautiful man and beacon of hope.
Dr " Norman Finkelstein" says he is not media savvy yet he just shut down
"Talk TV" & "Pierce Morgan" in one interview❤
It should make you cry, he is heading to hell from what he is preaching.
@@Bithia65hahaha if he’s headed to hell then you surely have no hope
"They have the right to hate you" most powerful, truthful words that I ever heard. Because no one before had the courage to destroy "Holocaust industry."
Even many non-human intellectual species demonstrate some level of vengeance like elephant, crow, whale, etc. So it is simply the instinct of intellectual beings. I don't think "right" is the best choice of word here, it is our nature to be vengeful when we are being suppressed for whatever reason. Dismissing this nature of man and expecting things can be settled with brute force is just foolish and unconstructive.
@@ultracapitalistutopia3550 Your explanation falls short in several aspects. People are enduring genocide (not by me according to international law), and once it ceases, I approach them, urging them not to respond in a manner similar to the perpetrators of the genocide. Why? Because it's morally reprehensible. My dear brother or sister, whatever you may be, countries worldwide refrain from imposing harsh penalties, including the death penalty, for a reason. Every court advises the relatives of victims against revenge, as it echoes the primitive vengeance we observe in animals like cows and elephants etc. Your argument is mere futile.
@@ultracapitalistutopia3550V
VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYS THE LORD OUR GOD.
@@ultracapitalistutopia3550even the most timid dog will attack when backed into a corner
@@AileenArena cow wants vengeance? Better tell that to the 🍖 meat eaters before the silly cows gang up on the poor farmers 😂🙄
Norman is an absolute gem of a human being. God bless him. I pray god grants him a long life. He is an advocate for humanity.
Isn’t he anti-lgbt?
@@andreseh87
Nope, he does seem to be
anti-stupid though 🤨
My hero 😊
Who’s yours?
Drumpf? 😖
A few questions:
1. Is the population of the concentration camp suppose to grow or to decline? Somehow the population of Gaza has grown by 40% in the last 18 years.
2. Does the concentration camp usually has a backdoor to go out of the concentration camp? Because there is a border cross to the Arab Republic of Egypt - but of course, all the complains are towards Israel. Hypocrisy?
3. Do the prisoners of the concentration camp usually fire 10,000 rockets and possess tons of explosives and all kinds of weaponry?
I have a few more, but let’s begin with these ones.
@@constantineblyuz5786stop copy and pasting your half arsed ‘gotchas’.
Do you have any real answers? @@henrydobson9419
Let's hope that Piers can learn something from Norman Finkelstein.
I do doubt that, the knob is never wrong.
Like what, how to be a hack fraud?
Piers doesn't give a damn.. He's here for the cheap clicks £ nothing else. Whatever is said Piers has forgotten by his next interview.. pure shill
Piers goes to bed in silk sheets in a mansion after a turkey dinner and a spa bath. His criticism of the Palestinians is therefore simply hypocrisy.
I don’t think so.
Norman Finkelstein is an absolute prepared man. Piers was dumbing down the conversation with repeated trope questions as if it all began on the 7th. Only to have Norman softly walk him back into humility using the Susan Boyle moment to overcome him into vunerable, calm and coherent then got the message of truth out without constant interuptions. Clinical calm sophistication, no bs.
Ridiculous analogy. There must be a word for when you conflate two completely separate concepts in a desperate bid to make a point.
I hope he got his boosters to stay safe.
@@LilyGazou I challenge you to make a less relevant statement 🙄
@@Globaldave1970 If you can't understand him that's yr problem.
@@LeeGordon-fp9zf I looked at his bio. I think he suffers from sort sort of trauma, which is understandable.
Morgan keeps trying so hard with his banal questions, "Was it a terror attack? Do you condemn Hamas?" Beyond this he's completely empty.
He must flatten the nuance out of it because then its at a rhetorical level he thinks he can win at.
Piers Morgan WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS. WILL YOU CONDEMN HAMAS, ETC
We already know he's there to champion his payroll master by any means. Piers is a classic judas. Pathetic 🙄
Is it not a valid question?
@@dominicparker6124 I can't decide if Morgan is just a cynic and a tyrant or whether he actually considers he has integrity and represents the people he looks down on.
First time I have listened to Norman Finkelstein and was very impressed by this man. I will certainly purchase some of his books. Thanks for bringing him on to your channel.
Me too
You guys should get Norman in the show ASAP, this guy is a legend.
What an intelligent clever guy. His ability to communicate on different levels is stella.Great respect for Norman Finkestein.
I do love and respect Mr. Finkelstein so much. He speaks quite clearly and on point, without shouting, as others do.
God bless you, Mr. Finkelstein.
Norman is a long time supporter of Palestinians and payed a high price for his remarkable work as historian. He has my greatest respect.
What price did he pay?
@@QuotidianStupidityi think he lost a tenure at a university for soeaking up
Paid a high price because he's not a true academic, just a polemic activist.
You can't point out the racism of AIPAC and the ADL without being fired from your academic posts and being sued by Dershovitz. They did the same thing to David Irving.
When taking away his tenure didn't silence him, Anti-Defamation League thugs even demanded he be kicked out of his apartment!
When Finkelstein talked about his parents in the concentration camp and the people of Gaza, I, as a Palestinian, felt shivers, but afterwards, I may have shed a tear or two.
❤❤❤
PERFECT Mr Finkelstein !!
The TRUTH delivered so eloquently!
God Bless You
Love Norman, he's been in the trenches for years and doesn't put up with bullshit. A true warrior for justice.
Not possible, of course, Piers Morgan doesn't have a mind, he's an establishment tool that delivers whatever message his masters want him to. His bombastic obnoxiousness doesn't make him of any value to anyone.
Made even clearer by Piers cutting Norm’s interview short to bring on the pantomime villain masquerading as a journalist; Douglas Murray. In a pathetic attempt to immediately discredit everything Norman had said.
Wouldn’t say he’s an establishment tool tbf, don’t think the establishment would have norm on so props to having him on
Piers was an attendee at a dinner convened by Camilla..... So yes, he's an establishment tool.....
Though I think piers main motive is viewing figures so he’ll take on whoever will get clicks
Agree with you, but at least Morgan possibly the only one on mainstream media gave pro Palestinians a platform ..... Yes he's doing it to get more viewers but he's given a voice to anti esreal ......
Norman Finkelstein is amazing. He's so restrained, and simultaneously so relentless.
He is a wak job.
@@michigan57 the whole michigan is
Thankyou for your huge moral efforts in defending the Palestinians Mr.Finkelstein.
Norman Finkekstein made the best arguments for the Palestinians so far.. Surgical.
Pure respect he's a man of honor and principles.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
The tragedy of the people of Gaza is that they have always been pawns on somebody’s game. In the 1950s they played the Egyptian game, sending terror raids into Israel and suffering Israeli retaliation. Then they became pawns in the Soviet anti-American game under Arafat and PLO. And today they are pawns in the Iranian game under Hamas. Otherwise, if searched for their own reason and based on the large economies of Israel and Egypt, Gaza would prosper. Unfortunately, decades of wrong decisions brought Gazans to their current misery.
Thank you for giving Norm's voice more reach on your platform. Mad respect.
Morgan set about his usual guest-shaming routine but it went horribly wrong when he eventually went down the road of 'and what would your holocaust-survivor parents think of you and your support for the Palestinians?'. Finkelstein's honest answer was extraordinary, and the best come back ever on that grim-fest shame-show.
Morgan has been shamed and shut down far too many times to count!
He was hoping Norman would come out with him saying his parents would disapprove.
It was a fair question. Israel was setup as it became a diaspora Jew was not safe anywhere in the world. I am sure they would turn in their grave listening to their attention seeking son now. He probably has deep mental issues. He's definitely weird.
@@nas84payneWhy would anyone disapprove of an uprising of concentration camp victims?
There’s nothing more dangerous than a person with nothing to lose
Straight from godfather two
I think of slave revolts. Not nice, disciplined, following the rules of war-
but still understandable.
Theres is no such thing as justification thats meaningless theres only logical outcomes, put people in such conditions they react in predicable ways its like math
That’s exactly what the Israelis and allies think that they have nothing to lose except to gain more land/oil and be the only democracy in the Middle East but this is all according to them, ONLY but the rest of the world know better than to keep listening/buying their BULSHIT!
As it seems Israel and Allies are very dangerous.
I knew where you’re going with this comment but I had another narrative to it.
Oh and just in case you meant by your comment that the Palestinian people are dangerous because they’ve been murdered almost to the last member of the family and that last member would have nothing to lose you’d still be wrong because a life lost is a life lost.
The PALESTINIAN people go about their every day life knowing what they have to lose but unlike those anywhere in the world yes they now and every day they have a little bit less to lose.
LESS FAMILY-CHILDREN, PARENTS, PARTNERS, SISTERS, BROTHERS, COUSINS,AUNTS, UNCLES, NIECES, NEPHEWS and I think you get the point. This isn’t directly directed to you but to this whole conflict my friend.
God Bless Norman for his ability to express himself in the way that he does; we need more people like him everywhere!
Yes he is human he lost everybody in the concentration camp and steel wauw do reaschure and he knows everything specially the 1 and 2 WW3
Damn straight. 👍
@@anisabaja9139you are 100% correct.👏 It's a perfect definition of sociopath.😱
More traitors?
Norman has been fighting for palestine for years and years...to see people all over the world wake up to these stupid politicians and their colonial idiocy. it is great to see. NORMAN is simply a human with a good heart, and big brains
He has a heart when it comes to the lives of Palestinians?
what does that mean ? the guy has been fighting for Palestinians for years and years! i don't get the question...@@hotstove9
Colonial? And millions of sq. kilometers conquered by Arabs are no colonial? Everything the Arabs have today is given them by the West. First, the Arab statehood came into existence after the West eliminated the Turkish Empire. Second, the Arab wealth comes from oil & gas explored by the West with the Western technologies and for the Western machinery. Before that most of the Arab areas were nothing more than sand and dust. Third, the political power of the Arab states comes due to the decision of the Western powers to create international institutions, especially the UN. Before that the Arab opinion barely interested anybody.
Even the Suez Canal and the Egyptology as a science and a touristic business brought by the “colonial settlers”.
Norman Finkelstein is pure humanity ❤
I've never heard anyone speak as factual as this man Norman Finkelstein and also to make sure that his point is not misconstrued
If anyone here in the USA was told to leave their home and property, they hire a lawyer, people in Gaza can’t. I guarantee people here would also retaliate.
They don’t hire a lawyer but plenty of lawyers expert in international law along with Arab and UN advocates represent them. Gaza’s economy and community are the same as any other in the Near East, it was not economically deprived until Oct 7. The restrictions on Gaza are to prevent transfer of arms and is compensated by the billions which pour in from the rest of the world.
Israel doesnt care what we think
...they gonna teach gaza a lesson
You're Israel in this scenario.
You did it to the Natives.
@@paidapps733 I know and I wasn’t around in the 1492 lol I totally think that’s horrific as well. This is also why I think Thanksgiving is a dumb holiday.
@@carlabroderick5508 Why do you think there is a need for "transfer of arms"? Remember, you are talking about a concentration camp, an open air prison with no Army, Navy nor an Air Force.
And before you say, because they would attack, please give us a few examples of Palestinian "terror acts" prior to 1948.
Norman Finkelstein, Scott Ritter, Abby Martin, and a lot more others, these are the people give me hope about humanity.
Noam!
@@edwardjones2202 Noam Chomsky is on different class.
Chris Hedges should be on that list, but yes… there are good people that are keeping the world tethered to basic good and humanity, first and foremost ☝🏼❤️
@@SBwj1gr yeah. Chris Hedges, Roy Cassandra should have been on the list.
Frank Barat,Mike Peled Ritter not so much he allegedly is a Russian asset ..
norman literally grabbed a tiny shred o humanity he saw on piers, exposed him to it, made him remember that feeling and adapted his speech to impact him. that's brilliant
6:50 Without swearing, he managed to say “ so fuck you Piers “, absolutely brilliant
I was most surprised by the fact that Piers even LET Norman speak without interrupting him every few seconds. Norman was able to articulate some excellent points. This is what happens when Piers actually lets his Pro-Palestinian guests SPEAK.
I was starting to think someone had turned Piers' mic off, honestly.
Because he feels inferior vs Norman
He's just a talent show judge.
@zhongli3652
I think Piers is at least barely smart enough to know that he should not dive in where Norm is swimming if he wants to intellectually survive even in the eyes of whoever is Piers' fan base.
@@alatsaf
because he IS inferior to Norman. Frankly it's a commonality.
Norman , thank you , you are a man of greatness .
Finally this point of view has been so clearly put. Sick of the constant pressure to condemn the oppressed‘s reaction to the oppressors. Disagree all you like with the tactics and effectiveness of it, be horrified by the acts, but never forget the root cause of such desperate action and that its horror originates in colonialism
The counter is too be sick of the new world view of oppression hierarchy. That any issue is viewed in isolation. The oppressed is determined using feelings. Then all actions of the oppressed are valid.
The Germans saw themselves as the 'oppressed' that's how they justified their horrors.
Be carful. Power isn't everything.
It would be incredible to witness a turning of all this hate and resentment through a mass awareness on both sides into something the future generation can build on.
People claiming that what goes around - comes around, forget that what comes around goes around...
@@Alticrooyour point has nothing to do with the present debate of the video. The thing to take from it is that Israel's colonialism is the original violence and while that issue is not addressed there's no real solution being offered
@@filipedandaloYou mean this didn’t start on October 7th? 😉
Our Salute to Norman from southeast Asia, a remote corner of the world for having such a high moral ground, being at the pinnacle of humanity.
Do you condemn the occupation of West Papua?
South East Asia has its own long on going conflicts, better not try and make yourself as to being better than others.
@@MusMasiwhat occupation? No military personnel encircle Papua nor they mowing the lawn in Papua. What are you trying to say?
@@cemanz The Papua conflict is an ongoing conflict in Western New Guinea (Papua) between Indonesia and the Free Papua Movement (Indonesian: Organisasi Papua Merdeka, OPM). Subsequent to the withdrawal of the Dutch administration from the Netherlands New Guinea in 1962[25] and implementation of Indonesian administration in 1963,[26] the Free Papua Movement has conducted a low-intensity guerrilla war against Indonesia through the targeting of its military, police,[27] and civilian populations.[28]
Papuan separatists have conducted protests and ceremonies, raising their flag for independence or calling for federation with Papua New Guinea,[27] and accuse the Indonesian government of indiscriminate violence and of suppressing their freedom of expression. Indonesia has also been accused of conducting a genocidal campaign[29] against the indigenous inhabitants. In a 2007 book, author De R. G. Crocombe wrote that an estimated 100,000 to 300,000 Papuans had been killed by Indonesian security forces,[23] and many women raped or subjected to other sexual violence.[30] Research on violence toward Papuan women[Note 1] by the Papuan Women's Working Group, together with the Asia Justice Rights (AJAR), found that 64 out of 170 (or 4 out of 10) Papuan women surveyed in 2013, 2017 experienced some form of state violence.[31] A more recent study in 2019 found that 65 out of 249 Papuan women shared such experiences.[Note 2][32][33]
Indonesian governance in the region has been compared to that of a police state, involving the suppression of free political association and expression,[34] although others have noted conflicts in Papua are instead caused by the near or total absence of state involvement in some areas.[35]
The Indonesian authorities continue to restrict foreign access to the region due to what they officially claim to be "safety and security concerns".[36] Some organizations have called for a peacekeeping mission in the area.[37][38]
You deserve all the respect brother Norman may God bless you ❤❤❤
theres nothing anyone can say to finkelstien , his parents were holocaust survivors & he still comes from the perspective of objective truth . i havent thought abt him in a few years but i remember watching his lectures / debates / interviews a while ago thinking ' dudes right '
He doesn’t understand if Israel lays down its arms Israel would be gone!
Norman Finkelstein the last of the true legends. Humane, articulate and factual.
Gabor Mate is as well.
Others will emerge.
I do really intellectually enjoy Norman Finkelstein and his lectures, video, etc. on youtube but whenever I watch him I'm always a bit more than concerned about his vague support of David Irving. Wish someone would clarify that for me cause its been a very problematic thorn in my mind.
Just go all out Maoist in your undiluted worship for him.
Norman Finkelstein you definatly deserve the Nobel peace prize and i and many more hope you will and will recieve this and we will celebrate you.
What a brilliant analysis by Professor Norman Finklestine... Huge Respect to Finklestine
psychopathic if you dig deep enough.
Yeah, .. why has he been discredited as an academic though?
@@Globaldave1970 Because he very cleverly criticised a book by a famous lawyer as plagiarism down to the comma and misspellings. That was the beginning of Mr. Finkelstein's misfortunes.
😂
@@Globaldave1970because norm is a nut job
While everyone is too afraid of saying the truth because of the Israeli lobby, Finkelstein had the guts to stand his ground and say it.
All respect to him
His life is nearing its end. He can be so fearless that im jealous, good on him...
He's able to do it because of his family history and the fact he's a Jew. It's good that he (as a Jew) is open about the complexities of the situation and the responsibility the Israeli government has to respect basic humanity and international laws and principles.
he just read it look at him my 8yo niece reads better and more fluent than him he sold his guts for 30 silver coins
His rhetoric works both ways.... do ya think the survivors of October 7th and their relatives want to have peace with the Palis? Or do they have the right to hate their sorry asses?
@@mistergod3he's 70. What nearing the end?
Def teared up when Norman said “even I had given up”
Good man with a kind heart no matter what side of the debate you find yourself.
Absolutely.
I cried at that too because we were all guilty of that, especially me as muslim I should have never given up hope for them
Indeed, at that moment I felt so much sadness and of course piers interrupted with his callous cold interjection. 😭
One side is right, one is wrong. It is very clear which is which.
@@untitled795 I agree with you but notice you didn't name which side was which in your mind. Free Palestine
Morgan was in a situation he didnt like. He wasnt able to control the narrative. The man told the truth and morgan didnt like it. It was fantastic to see him keep his mouth shut.
Yet Piers will always paint himself as this empathetic humanitarian. Piers is just after money.
I normaly do not like Norman Finklestein but this changed my mind , Norman Finklestein is %100 correct.
If I may ask, what do you normally not like him for?
@@mr.andrew_andrew if you can Google - Fake News & Fake Jews [incl. Richard Falk, Norman Finkelstein] then you would have your'e Answer .
I think his views are mostly agaisnt the rafical left or left in general regarding cancel culture, lgbt stuff etc
If u changed your mind change ur display picture pls
@@lewessays he has carefully chronicled gaza events and wrote brooks about gaza he's an expert in the conflict!
Norman Finklestein is a tender-hearted man in a cruel cruel world. He inspires me to hope. Thank you
Psychopath, you mean.
Yes, lovely, lovely guy in his writing and the way he communicates.
@@lalaeurohe seems to be mistakened. Very much so. Concentration victims would not be able to paraglide into Israel and do what the terrorists did. What nonsense he spewed.
@@user-rb2 Thanks for the education! ;-0)
@@user-rb2They wouldn't? What nonsense !
When asked to opine on the October 7 attack, why does nobody simply draw attention to the 75 year atrocity inflicted on the Palestinians?
I am 80, a Catholic in UK and for decades I have felt a hopeless concern fir Palestinians. I have never discussed it but now, in my lifetime, I have enormous hope for freedom for Palestinians. I repeat 'in my lifetime', I see the world marching for Gaza and The West Bank. God bless them.
Can you name a single Palestinian figure before 1950? Not Arab - Palestinian.
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@@constantineblyuz5786
Nope
I can't. Shall I google it?
Palestinians worked inside of Israel, so they weren't locked in as in jail.
Thats mean you ar good man with ❤
I just want to say THANK-YOU to Norman Finkelstein and Navara media. Your voices are incredibly needed to shed the truth in this world of mainstream media lies.
Norman Finkelstein is like a calm sea amongst a hurricane. He is intelligent and convincing in his steady logical thought process. He makes you understand Palestine has nothing left to lose except to fade away into oblivion.😢
They will.
@@randobad👏👏👏
This is one of the rare moments in my life, where I see someone brilliantly explain something, and realize I could never have done this. I am so used to thinking, I could have explained that better. But I could never have put that to Piers Morgan so eloquently, as did Norman Finklestein. Here I was aware, I was in the presence of greatness, and humbled.
Wow.
Stephen Barlow couldn't have said it better.
High praise indeed.
In fairness he's been doing this a ~long~ time, dealing with pro-Israel arguments from people far more prepared and experienced than Piers Morgan. You can definitely learn a lot from how he structures his points and the way he recognises common ground instead of being adversarial though! Plus if people try to talk over him he just goes "WILL YOU PLEASE LET ME FINISH" until they stop, which is probably why Morgan isn't doing his usual Special Technique of shouting him down
Explained what? The tragedy of the people of Gaza is that they have always been pawns on somebody’s game. In the 1950s they played the Egyptian game, sending terror raids into Israel and suffering Israeli retaliation. Then they became pawns in the Soviet anti-American game under Arafat and PLO. And today they are pawns in the Iranian game under Hamas. Otherwise, if searched for their own reason and based on the large economies of Israel and Egypt, Gaza would prosper. Unfortunately, decades of wrong decisions brought Gazans to their current misery.
@@constantineblyuz5786 - I suggest you listen.
@@constantineblyuz5786
Dude, come on, nobody has to tell a colonised and violently dispossessed people to fight back
Piers Morgan can't handle a genius like Norman Finklestein, he's on a much higher level.
lol piers is on pond scum level.
Professor Finkelstein all respect to you👌👌👌
Bias of piers is evident every time he ask about Oct 7th, because he ignores before and after 7th ocr
The empathy and kindness of this man combined with his keen intellect and eloquence really captures how awful the situation over there.
I absolutely respect Norman Finkelstein so much❣️
Piers is getting better and better at having guests slapping him in the face with facts, on air, in his program.
Piers Morgan is a complete Novice all he wants is for people to come on the show and say they condem Hamas and he will be happy no person in their right mind will say we condem Hamas after seeing what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for over 75 years. Why don't Piers Morgan move to Israel he won't have to worry about Hamas.
@@Abaziz48 your blindsided.. Wake up! Why don't Arabs take the Palestinians in?
Piers is a cruel man. He was on Trumps reality TV show and I remember how cruel he was to the young black woman on the show. I forget her name. trump loved her but then he didn't, as he tends to do. Have a favorite and then fall out with them.
At least he's willing to give people the platform to debate even if he does try and talk over them sometimes. It is raising awareness, and that is the important thing
Meaning, he will soon be fired. His boss would be furious bringing someone like that to the studio.
Strange how only one race are allowed to hate others must accept the brutality and not defend themselves 🤷🏾♀️
Average Western mindset, of course Israel being European inherit that mindset
Jews are not a race. A lineage, yes. A race, no. Furthermore race is a created concept a few centuries old and when used what people really mean is ethnicity. And jews are a multi-ethnicity group with a great deal of diversity in the lineage.
So no, its not one race hating another.
Furthermore this misses the point. Listening to previous conversations where Norman makes the comparison to African slaves in the US and slave revolts it quickly becomes clear what exactly he means by the things said in the clip.
@@SecretMarsupialshe meant Caucasians
@@nancyiajAh i see i replied to the wrong comment. Im going to stand by it and leave it though
@@SecretMarsupialThey call themselves a race so live with it.
What I find troubling Is having to explain to people the obvious, when they should be asking themselves how they would respond in that situation. Just shows how narcissistic we've become!
I love Finkelstein, been in the Palestinian struggle for 40 years. Great mind, one of the few people that could make Britains got Talent sound so poetic.
That tag-line “critics have labelled Finkelstein as ‘poison’ and a ‘self-hating Jew’” is hilarious. All part of the hasbara smearing and demonising.
I noticed that too!
I noticed that the title and said to myself … “ hm this guys must be saying truthful “ ha
So glad to hear the comments from Prof.Norman Finkelstein . Here is a truly humane person..
Morgan is stuck on the question "Do you condem Hamas?", somebody please help him get out of it.
@benhurn8277 what concentration camp is that?
Only a coward with no objectivity can have trouble answering that question. Its like asking an Irishman if he condemns the IRA bombings and he refuses to do it.
@@paulinegallagher7821 . Do you condemn the the British for the atrocities they committed upon the Irish nation?
It's a distraction tactic. They keep the conversation stuck on the same stuff so you can't go further and speak about all their shit.
@@paulinegallagher7821 the Gaza Strip is what it’s called
Norman Finkelstein is one of the best people to talk about the Gaza situation
Love love love Norman Finkelstein. So brilliant. So well spoken.
Thank you very much Mr Finkelstein for telling the truth....
Tell the truth whole world...
Game , set and match to mr Finkelstein
Vielen Dank an Norman Finkelstein und seinen unermüdlichen Kampf für die Palästinenser❤️. - 🙏🏼✝️🥀🇵🇸
He is my hero ❤
I am not Islamic. I will never be.. but I believe we worship the same creator.. and I have much love and respect for Islam..
Come on bro, you seem a good person with a beautiful heart, why don't you study Quran ? Not forcing, but , what's the loss? Take it as an adventure , come on !
If there is a creator I'd like to think they held men and women as equals. If only religions tried that
They are equal in the eyes of Allah. It is a misrepresentation of Islam.
Young man, you are on the right path to finding honest and sincere journalism. Keep up the good work.
I can't stand the way Morgan senses a 'mic drop moment' and starts stuttering his interruption to ruin the moment. Such a cowardly move.
Well spotted. Same, he sabotaged him
I have noticed it on several occasions. Its very obvious and distasteful. Also should make you stop and wonder why he does that...
Then why do you watch him?
Well spoken- Norman u are so right. May God bless ye
I watched the whole thing and Pierce really had nothing to say in response to most of it but his usual “but do you condemn Hamas” which made him look ridiculous after all the eloquent explanations Norman had given about the Palestinian struggle in Gaza.
Pierce was out of his depth not being able to play the antisemitism card with Norman.
The most powerful thing about this interview for me was that
a) you could see Piers’s moral calculus be nudged in real time
b) that he lost some level of esteem for Douglas Murray in real time
And the beautiful part that at no time did Norman “try” to convince Piers of anything.
He just laid out his own position in a wonderfully competent and humane way.
Bonus point
c) Douglas Murray wet his posh pants at the thought of discussing with professor Finkelstein, because Douglas needs his followers to be dumb enough to believe that “they could have turned Gaza into Singapore” (what a vile and dishonest ducking excuse for a human being could honestly believe such a thing?!)
Douglas finds the guy unbearable. He is well known as willing to debate with anyone, but draws the nine with him. I agree, it would be pointless.
@@Globaldave1970
False. The reason why is that Douglas only has debunkable propagandist soundbites and appeals to emotion as his foundation for this issue.
How could anyone with even a perfunctory grasp on the topic ever claim that Gaza could have become Singapore? Easy, they’re either ignorant or a liar.
And Douglas knows he’d be exposed as one or the other.
Brilliant!
@@ActualHonestReporting Declaring peace would be a start, but Islam never does that, does it?
THANK YOU for your humanity, your knowledge, and your honesty!!!
" Israel cannot claim the right of ‘self-defence’ under international law because Gaza is a territory which it occupies ". by Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur
Whose job depends on the existence of the conflict. Otherwise, she would be unemployed. This is the "Palestine industry".
Are you for real? Gazans cannot survive without Israel. Hamas only think about themselves and do not care about the people of Palestine.
It is amazing how people talk about Nelson Mandela. Black South Africans lived better during apartheid than they live now. Nelson Mandela was a terrorist and that says everything. Now, South Africa is hell with violent crime everywhere. White South Africans can protect themselves behind their high walls, but what about those living in the townships? Hate and crime everywhere.
I fail to see what anything you said links to his comment.
I see what your saying, but there is a part in your life when you want more amd more opportunities for you ppl and you want to go into places that don't allow you, more so not to be held back especially in your native country. Some ppl dream of becoming a leader a owner a policy maker, that's why apartheid should never exist cause now everything is shit and there are just two factions fighting against but for the same ideals just different colours.
Now they may never hit the same hart strings and forever bitter and then the corruption that follows it never stops unless both groups agree that there is away to coexist
Finkelstein is such an inspiration. Morgan? Useless waste of space.
Then why is Norman sucking Piers' bell at the end of this interview?
@@undercoveragent9889hardly. He's just a decent man. I'm sure like the rest of us he sees what a sold out dog Morgan is. He's just too much of a gentleman to say it.
He's serving a useful purpose at the moment, by giving people like Bassem Youssef and Norman Finkelstein a platform. He didn't take in a word either of them said, but other people were listening and he let them have their say.
At least he has lots of different kinds of people on his show. That isn't exactly useless.
Morgan is a talking head.
Excellent programme!!! Also the highly intelligent words by Ms Ash Sarker are very much appreciated,
Norman’s comment about giving up on the Palestinians was emotional. Heartbreaking actually. And that is exactly why whomever was in Piers’ ear told him to put a stop to it.
Haha yeah looked like he got told to wind it up😅
Haha so true piers ruined the moment
"Our freedom is not complete without the freedom of Palestine." Nelson Mandela 🇵🇸♥️🇿🇦
What a wonderful man so articulate and ojective in his analysis of the israel / palestinian problem.❤
Norman Finkelstein is a highly intellectual person with compassion and humanity for the truth and fairness. I absolutely love and have a lot of respect for Norman Finkelstein his views and opinions ❤
Norman Finkelstein is unbelievably smart and just. It's really hard to find a person with this trait combined.
Norman Finkelstein is good he fights with facts!!!
Prof Norman is an absolute gem. He always have the best stories to tell when proving his points!!
I have become a fan for your journalism.
Thank you and please keep up with your good work.
Thank you for this very cerebral look at this situation.
Refreshing.
The fact that pierce Morgan has to ensure he says "terror attack" instead of atrocities is very telling about the propaganda methods he is required to do on his show.
Yeah exactly. The magic word "terror" has to be used as for Western power this justifies everything 😅
Andrew Tate of all people took him apart about it. It’s worth watching no matter your feelings about Tate.
So every murderer or rapist can be justified on how he was raised? Is growing up in a densely populated area an excuse to burn innocent babies?
Absolutely no comparison to the concentration camps.
Those terrorists did not appear to be starving or lacking anything.
Manipulating people by justifying gazans to behave worse than animals. Even though many of them had decent jobs in Israel and were treated nicely.
Not really. He knows NF uses loaded terms like 'concentration camp', so it was an attempt for him to at lest some parameters.
@@Dan0TheManoWhich part of the Andrew Tate interview please?
Everyone needs to hear this perspective. He speaks absolute truth.
they are such simple questions but so many do not ask them, what would I do if I was in those shoes,
Thank you Novara Media, keep up your hard work!
Norman Finkelstein is an incredible human being !!!!!!!!! He has compassion for operssed regardless what ethnic or religious grup they are. Always stand on the right side of humanity.
When it comes to the Conflict, Norman Finkelstein is in a class all by himself. Kudos to Dr Finkelstein.
Chomsky also - Finkelstein's friend and mentor
Thank goodness for Norman Finkelstein and his truth