@Bikefitjames I know there are probably time constraints with filming regular customers who you don't know personally, but I'd like to see more lengthy videos like this on your channel
This guy is an absolute wizard. So much fit bs out there, but the reasoning behind these changes just make sense from a physics and physiological perspective. Thank you
Seriously, 16 weeks to wait to find out you are married. Congratulations to you both. Fantastic news. The vlog was awesome. James is a bloody legend. Wish I could afford to visit.
Reckon it's time for a "Mystery Rider" to rack up, with the exact same analysis requirements, at James Bike Fit, Phil Burt's Bike Fit & UK Bike Fit ! :) Then see if there's any differential in the resulting data numbers ! 😁
See "The Need for Data-driven Bike Fitting: Data Study of Subjective Expert Fitting" by Braekevelt et al. The authors tested two riders across nine fitters and saddle height varied by 3 cm!
@@johnmcnulty1129 You would simply need three identical bikes to start with for three fits so that you could be able to test the difference. A blunder would come apparent quite fast, although it is not highly likely that you would get a fail as such
My wife is 5'1" and it's so good to hear your thoughts. It echoes our experience of too high BB's and too long cranks for short legs...We can solve narrower bars and cranks easily, but BB drop is difficult..
@@nathanattwood7187 my wife rides a 27.5" mountain bike (XS/13.5" Liv Lust) and 700c hybrid eBike (Merida eSpeeder). In the past she's had 26" Cannondale F900sl, Trek Superfly and Liv Invite (gravel). All have fitted well frame wise, but all had cranks too long and wide bars. Her current Liv Lust we cut the wide bars down to just over her shoulder width and I found 65mm cranks, but would like smaller if I could. The eSpeeder is newish and I'm looking at a crank change again, and I've already taken 4cm off bars.
James is the man - I had saddle sores on long rides for years that other bike fitters could not fix. One visit to James in the brick cellar and I'm sorted, although it did involve new bars, seat post, shoes and saddle! Next time I need a new bike I'll see him first...
LOVE IT!!! I'm a 5'4" bloke with short legs and arms. This video pretty much nails it all from my point of view: not enough small bike options, crank length, problems with non-700c wheels, advisability of going custom. One elephant in the room is the (lack of) availability of 160mm cranks. They are out there: I use some TA but they use square taper BBs and the excellent Sugino OX....BUT they're rare and expensive. Is there scope to explore gearing options for smaller and (often) less powerful riders ie smaller gears allowing a more "spinny" pedalling style?
The ISO standard actually allows for a far lower BB height on lean angles. The actual issue is creating a consistent size chart with respect to stack heights as a lower BB needs a shorter head tube for consistent stack. Hard to engineer a very short head tube with the taper, space for hose routing and only one fork on all sizes of Dogma.
I had a bike fit with Denver at James' Bicycle Richmond in January and it transformed my riding experience. I still love watching James fit other people.
I've been wanting to see Cade Media do a video like for a long time - well done, so insightful and for me and I hope others, removes that fear / trepidation of going to a bike fitter.
Love watching the content even after having a fit and several appointments with James to sort issues and purchase a new bike. Can’t recommend James enough
Get a disc-braked 28" bike and put in 27'5" or 26" wheels (or 27,5" bike with 26" wheels). Voilà: Lower bottom bracket, lower saddle to ground distance.
@@sempi8159 No, that is not how it works. The bottom bracket gets lower by using a wheel that is smaller than the frame was designed for. A frame designed for 27.5" wheels has the same bottom bracket height with 27.5" wheels as a comparable 28" frame with 28" wheels.
Great content. Nice to meet Dani. Curious to see the build, hope that becomes a video. Could be cool to also see a video of you other three to understand how James manages your fits.
Insightful. Surely many people deviate from "ideal" size and body proportions such that an off-the-shelf frame compromises one's riding position. Now people are more aware of crank length, bar width, etc.coming into play in "non-ideal" physiognomies. It is great that there are so many custom builders out there. Still, a hard sell for a bike shop owner to such a customer who walks in expecting that a standard bike will fit 'em.
For those with small kids learning to ride, youll probably haveen the bottom bracket height issue too. Kid has to have saddle too low (granted rhey are super flexy) so can get power down to go/startup up hills, as otherwise they cannot stop easily without falling..
I love seeing Bike Fit Tuesday again. (although I miss 'Angry James' :-) ) This was an excellent video walking through real issues with a rider. Even as one who is the opposite kind of 'vertically challenged' I came away from it with a better understanding of the ergonomics. (please do one for stupidly tall people too)
Great video, and like many I'm now intrigued about what bike Danni ends up getting. On another note, as a 185cm/6'1" tall man, it would be interesting to see a bike fit video, either here or on James's channel for someone around this height and the recommendations/advice James has for saddle height, crank length, etc.
Welcome to the channel Daniella! Francais, if all I had to do in order to get a bike fit from James was to marry you, I would have married you years ago. Great video, please never put a filter on the amount of nerdy bike fit talk in these videos. It's some of the best chat on the platform!
this is just so deep and so interesting I am in Awe. Just got my first ever Gravel and first ever bike fit and I am amazed at the differences before and after. Kudos to James for expertly clarifying the little things which are so important!
BRAVO! The industry has had way too much success destroying the value of "made-to-measure" vs t-shirt sizes! Time for that pendulum to swing back IMHO. Keep it up!
Since minimum stack height is essentially determined by the fork, if you lower the bottom bracket (increase drop), lowering the saddle height in space, how do you deal with the fact that you can't lower stack height to compensate? Do you end up with riders with very little, or even negative saddle to bar drop? Shorter crank lengths will certainly help with this, since you can raise the saddle, but it seems like it still will not be enough for shorter riders.
James is an amazing bike fitter but he has a few opinions that I think are a bit interesting. The touching the floor thing. I come from the world of mountain biking. We have high bottom bracket clearance for obvious reasons. With that in mind, when my saddles are set at the correct height, I can barely touch the floor with the very tips of my toes. This is what dropper posts are for. 27.2mm droppers for road and gravel bikes are a thing for a reason. Get the bike you want. Set your saddle at the correct height and either learn how to step off of a bike correctly or get a dropper. Or preferably both.
For a road bike though you don’t need ground clearance like a mountain bike. And he is talking about riders that lack confidence which people riding over rocks on a MTB likely don’t have an issue with. I have never seen a bike fit video mention bottom bracket drop before though. Certainly an interesting thing to think about.
This is the best effing bike video on youtube. Its so important for folk to feel comfortable and confident on a bike so they can enjoy and get better at cycling. Manufacturers need to design geometry around bike fit and sell us bikes that actually fit a human being! Thanks Francis and James, watched this from start to finish and didn't even blink!
Fantastic before and after comparison shots. Great type of content to share for those interested in dialing in their own bike fits. (Yes I’ve been to a professional, but wish I could go see James!)
For shorter people who might want short cranks I recommend the Croder Spirit Crank Arms (available from 140-172.5mm length). That's a modular solution where you can buy the cranks, the spindle and chainrings/spider seperately. I'm tall but bought 155mm cranks for my recumbent bike which works very well for me. I connected the Croder cranks & spindle with my Quarq DZero powermeter. Also what's going on with these robot comments? Is that AI?
You can buy them from James at Bicycle. My Missus had a bike fit with James and we also had 155mm Croder cranks fitted. Not a cheap option though. FSA do a road bike crank that is available that short too although it has 46/30 chainrings. Its around £180 IIRC
Educational as always. Thank you Francis & James. @bikefitjames: as one adjusts saddle height when changing crank length is the same true for saddle setback (fore/aft)?
Having shorter cranks allows you to raise the saddle. By doing this, you can open up the hip angle when your foot is in the 12 o'clock position. A longer crank means lowering the saddle so that you don't fully extend the leg when the foot is in 6 o'clock position, but this means that the hip angle is smaller in the 12 position causing impingement. I hope that helps.
So, Dr Dani needed a shorter crank and saddle adjustments. Was a shorter/longer stem needed or a different angle? I notice that new bars were fitted to test bike. Did Dr Dani need a Narrower Bar? If a 170 Crank was fitted to bike then I am guessing a 40 or 42cm bar was also fitted and Dr Danni looked like she was a slim build so maybe 38cm bars
The bit about saddles being too wide, therefore riders sit forward on the narrower part to avoid the rubbing... I've been noticing that myself and wondering if it could be the case. It's validating to hear that it's something he sees a lot.
Great one, again... In fact I went (as many of us) through tons and years of optimization, having learnt few things on my own.. wish I would pay more attention back then and had found some material of such quality... Few pretty common things I use to suffer on: - as soon as you start to move around sattle / jiggle and wabble on sattle the height is very likely too high (or dramatically too low) - bending of the knees in lower dead end, as mentioned here, shouldn't go over 145° (linked pretty strong to sattle)... however seat post angle and adjustment range of sattle plays a role here as well - try at least once shorter cranks, this might be game changer - acknowledge, that 80% of handlebar optimization originates actually in wrong ratio between stack and reach... so basically the frame size / shape
It's just clicked from your mates custom Sarto vid that this is your Mrs? Mate your not the elephant man or anything but you are punching there like.......chapeau!
Very interesting.. My wife's 5 ft 2 and not the most confident on a bike. She always seems high on her saddle when the seat post is set to the height that "I" think it should be not what she wants ie her elbows almost banging her knees!! She always moans and never puts it where I think she would be more efficient. Never thought about the Bottom bracket height before. Great insightful video.
Every fitting video i see is titled (Suffering for X amount of years) you withstand terrible pain for so long. Cause you are certain you can make it work yourself. So you don't have to spend extra money. Cause the bike itself and the equipment is already extremely expensive. And after many years of pain and wasting money from the 20 saddles and 10 different bib shorts. You decide to spend them on bike fitting in hope cycling starts to become a joy and not a torture. If i could turn back time. I would do a bike fitting before i buy a bike. Not the opposite. I regret it. Cycling is a very expensive hobby, it will never be mainstream for this reason alone.
i think the problem is that most people dont know about "bike fit" when they buy their first bike. they buy a bike and if they like it, they ride more and problems start to surface. im also a strong believer that a bikefiter can only do so much with a total noob who never rode more than 1 hour. i think the best clients for those fitters are people who already have a few miles under their belt and roughly know what problems occur after a certain time of riding.
A lot of it is industry's fault. Some may encourage competent bike fitters but then supply only t-shirt sizes with issues discussed here. Buying online (giving ALL the profits to the online merchant vs bike shop) just makes things worse. Buying a suit of clothes that can easily and cheaply be exchanged for the right size is far easier than trying to return a bicycle in a box..AFTER you've taken it out of the box and discovered it's the wrong size. But the industry doesn't care if you ride it, all they care is that you BOUGHT it!
You don’t mention wheel size in relation to bb drop (assuming bike is designed for that wheel size). Is this because small people need 700c wheels to keep up with mates? On smaller bikes that stay w 700c, doesn’t toe overlap also become an issue?
Nice Francis, already monetizing the marriage 😁
I believe they already did this on their wedding night, or they were supposed to anyway 🤔
@@TheManic.5-OH creepy and weird…
"She's been suffering for 5 years" heyooooooo
Also Danny is spot on, cause most people are not sure exactly how it is supposed to feel. She is making James work
Yes, and that's when experience comes in. He knows how it should feel by experience from other people. Very interesting!
@Bikefitjames I know there are probably time constraints with filming regular customers who you don't know personally, but I'd like to see more lengthy videos like this on your channel
She’s bouncing like mad at the beginning. Solid as a rock at the end. Lovely.
Part of me just wants a bike fit so I can hang out with James and talk nerdy bike things
You could. There’s worse ways to spend money.
your not the only one, you can book a fit with his company but it costs extra to do it with him
@@pierrethetrex6106 Worth it in my books!
This guy is an absolute wizard. So much fit bs out there, but the reasoning behind these changes just make sense from a physics and physiological perspective. Thank you
Only James and Opticians touch something and say “Better or worse” 😂
Seriously, 16 weeks to wait to find out you are married. Congratulations to you both. Fantastic news. The vlog was awesome. James is a bloody legend. Wish I could afford to visit.
Reckon it's time for a "Mystery Rider" to rack up, with the exact same analysis requirements, at James Bike Fit, Phil Burt's Bike Fit & UK Bike Fit ! :)
Then see if there's any differential in the resulting data numbers ! 😁
that would be interesting! bit costly though haha
Plus who would have the "Final" say on verification ?
Loughborough University, Team UAE or Sir Dave Brailsford ? :) 🤔
See "The Need for Data-driven Bike Fitting: Data Study of Subjective Expert Fitting" by Braekevelt et al. The authors tested two riders across nine fitters and saddle height varied by 3 cm!
@@johnmcnulty1129 You would simply need three identical bikes to start with for three fits so that you could be able to test the difference. A blunder would come apparent quite fast, although it is not highly likely that you would get a fail as such
Then fly over the Australia to the guy from Road Cycling Academy
Wait! What bike is Dani gonna get?!?! Don't leave us hanging 🙏
Shout to Francis! Thanks for bringing BikeFit Tuesdays back! I sorely missed it! 🙌🏼 ✌️
Think there is a pretty huge, visual difference and everything looks much better. Very interesting to watch. Thanks!
The bike fitter was excellent in this!. His energy was amazing.
OMG i could listen to James talk about bikefit for hours
My wife is 5'1" and it's so good to hear your thoughts. It echoes our experience of too high BB's and too long cranks for short legs...We can solve narrower bars and cranks easily, but BB drop is difficult..
Not difficult. Expensive.
I'm really struggling to figure this out too. My wife is 5'. Do I need to get her a 24" bike?
@@nathanattwood7187 my wife rides a 27.5" mountain bike (XS/13.5" Liv Lust) and 700c hybrid eBike (Merida eSpeeder). In the past she's had 26" Cannondale F900sl, Trek Superfly and Liv Invite (gravel). All have fitted well frame wise, but all had cranks too long and wide bars. Her current Liv Lust we cut the wide bars down to just over her shoulder width and I found 65mm cranks, but would like smaller if I could. The eSpeeder is newish and I'm looking at a crank change again, and I've already taken 4cm off bars.
@@nathanattwood7187 and she's 5'1"
James is the man - I had saddle sores on long rides for years that other bike fitters could not fix. One visit to James in the brick cellar and I'm sorted, although it did involve new bars, seat post, shoes and saddle! Next time I need a new bike I'll see him first...
LOVE IT!!!
I'm a 5'4" bloke with short legs and arms. This video pretty much nails it all from my point of view: not enough small bike options, crank length, problems with non-700c wheels, advisability of going custom. One elephant in the room is the (lack of) availability of 160mm cranks. They are out there: I use some TA but they use square taper BBs and the excellent Sugino OX....BUT they're rare and expensive. Is there scope to explore gearing options for smaller and (often) less powerful riders ie smaller gears allowing a more "spinny" pedalling style?
The ISO standard actually allows for a far lower BB height on lean angles.
The actual issue is creating a consistent size chart with respect to stack heights as a lower BB needs a shorter head tube for consistent stack. Hard to engineer a very short head tube with the taper, space for hose routing and only one fork on all sizes of Dogma.
Then make the downtube an arch? the top tube of the Dogma is archy enough
@@michaeltsui3435 wouldn't change anything with regards to the relationship between stack, reach, head tube length and bb drop.
@@davidpage6831 at least you got a steeper headtube
I had a bike fit with Denver at James' Bicycle Richmond in January and it transformed my riding experience. I still love watching James fit other people.
I've been wanting to see Cade Media do a video like for a long time - well done, so insightful and for me and I hope others, removes that fear / trepidation of going to a bike fitter.
Finally someone talks about the flaw of BB drop for smaller bikes. Especially more important for bikepacking
I'm a PhD student and the BB drop discussion was very, very interesting and well articulated. Thanks.
'Dani is 5'2"' so taller than Francis?
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Ouch! 😂
Is the ole' boy really that short? 🤣
💀
Love watching the content even after having a fit and several appointments with James to sort issues and purchase a new bike. Can’t recommend James enough
Glad to see more of james coming into the content again, love what he brings.
Thank you for talking about short cyclist bike fit! ❤
This was great. Welcome to the Cade Media family. Can we see your new bike when you get it?
Get a disc-braked 28" bike and put in 27'5" or 26" wheels (or 27,5" bike with 26" wheels). Voilà: Lower bottom bracket, lower saddle to ground distance.
Or get a bike that already has 27,5 rims.
@@sempi8159 No, that is not how it works. The bottom bracket gets lower by using a wheel that is smaller than the frame was designed for. A frame designed for 27.5" wheels has the same bottom bracket height with 27.5" wheels as a comparable 28" frame with 28" wheels.
I'm just a recreational rider but man now I want a bike fit like this.
I speak for much of the audience when I say we've missed Bike Fit James! Welcome back 🎉
The BB drop is really eye opening. What an oversight
her look when he mentions custom bike!! Funny to watch!!
Francis ,fair play 👏
I also bob left and right when pedaling. My 165mm cranks are still not short enough 😅
is amazing the way that james manages to explain everything about fitting
Very interesting video. I need to get myself a bike fit (like, 6 years after I bought the bike 🤦
Great content. Nice to meet Dani. Curious to see the build, hope that becomes a video. Could be cool to also see a video of you other three to understand how James manages your fits.
Standert bikes has specific compact bikes, you should check them. They are really nice!
Insightful. Surely many people deviate from "ideal" size and body proportions such that an off-the-shelf frame compromises one's riding position. Now people are more aware of crank length, bar width, etc.coming into play in "non-ideal" physiognomies. It is great that there are so many custom builders out there. Still, a hard sell for a bike shop owner to such a customer who walks in expecting that a standard bike will fit 'em.
Great video showing just how good James is. 👏
Congrats on the wedding Francis and your beautiful new wife.
(Nice Speedmaster James)! 😉
For those with small kids learning to ride, youll probably haveen the bottom bracket height issue too. Kid has to have saddle too low (granted rhey are super flexy) so can get power down to go/startup up hills, as otherwise they cannot stop easily without falling..
Great video, thank you James & Danni! 🙏☺️
great video :) thx to the people who made it
I love seeing Bike Fit Tuesday again. (although I miss 'Angry James' :-) ) This was an excellent video walking through real issues with a rider. Even as one who is the opposite kind of 'vertically challenged' I came away from it with a better understanding of the ergonomics. (please do one for stupidly tall people too)
Wow, this looks so interesting. I need to diagnose myself...
Bike fit followed by custom bike build what a dutiful husband you are.😆
Love this!!
What a great fit. Hope you enjoy your riding.
MOAR Bike Fit!
that was actually...really informative. i was expecting to drop off a third through this video. i learned a lot watching this.
what a gorgeous lady, congrats mate! Very insightful video like always 🙏🏼
That was brilliant
Great video, and like many I'm now intrigued about what bike Danni ends up getting. On another note, as a 185cm/6'1" tall man, it would be interesting to see a bike fit video, either here or on James's channel for someone around this height and the recommendations/advice James has for saddle height, crank length, etc.
Get some 155 cranks. Thank me later :)
he is fascinating to watch work
Welcome to the channel Daniella! Francais, if all I had to do in order to get a bike fit from James was to marry you, I would have married you years ago. Great video, please never put a filter on the amount of nerdy bike fit talk in these videos. It's some of the best chat on the platform!
Ugandan interviewer: doesn't dat make U GEH?
Why you geh ?
Love this. I run into these challenges all the time with smaller clients. These folks need the most help!
this is just so deep and so interesting I am in Awe. Just got my first ever Gravel and first ever bike fit and I am amazed at the differences before and after. Kudos to James for expertly clarifying the little things which are so important!
BRAVO! The industry has had way too much success destroying the value of "made-to-measure" vs t-shirt sizes! Time for that pendulum to swing back IMHO. Keep it up!
So, custom bike building video next?
Since minimum stack height is essentially determined by the fork, if you lower the bottom bracket (increase drop), lowering the saddle height in space, how do you deal with the fact that you can't lower stack height to compensate? Do you end up with riders with very little, or even negative saddle to bar drop? Shorter crank lengths will certainly help with this, since you can raise the saddle, but it seems like it still will not be enough for shorter riders.
Damn I wish I could get a fitting as comprehensive as this.
James is an amazing bike fitter but he has a few opinions that I think are a bit interesting. The touching the floor thing. I come from the world of mountain biking. We have high bottom bracket clearance for obvious reasons. With that in mind, when my saddles are set at the correct height, I can barely touch the floor with the very tips of my toes. This is what dropper posts are for. 27.2mm droppers for road and gravel bikes are a thing for a reason. Get the bike you want. Set your saddle at the correct height and either learn how to step off of a bike correctly or get a dropper. Or preferably both.
For a road bike though you don’t need ground clearance like a mountain bike. And he is talking about riders that lack confidence which people riding over rocks on a MTB likely don’t have an issue with. I have never seen a bike fit video mention bottom bracket drop before though. Certainly an interesting thing to think about.
I wanna know what bike she ends up getting and how much Francis is going to spend on it !
Hang on ... this is a carbon copy of Proof of Sweat bikefit that exploded,same title wording and thumb.
This is the best effing bike video on youtube. Its so important for folk to feel comfortable and confident on a bike so they can enjoy and get better at cycling. Manufacturers need to design geometry around bike fit and sell us bikes that actually fit a human being! Thanks Francis and James, watched this from start to finish and didn't even blink!
Fantastic before and after comparison shots. Great type of content to share for those interested in dialing in their own bike fits. (Yes I’ve been to a professional, but wish I could go see James!)
Small bike fit under 5/4 ,Thanks!!
For shorter people who might want short cranks I recommend the Croder Spirit Crank Arms (available from 140-172.5mm length). That's a modular solution where you can buy the cranks, the spindle and chainrings/spider seperately.
I'm tall but bought 155mm cranks for my recumbent bike which works very well for me. I connected the Croder cranks & spindle with my Quarq DZero powermeter.
Also what's going on with these robot comments? Is that AI?
I've bought cranks from Croder directly before, but they no longer ship to the UK.
You can buy them from James at Bicycle. My Missus had a bike fit with James and we also had 155mm Croder cranks fitted. Not a cheap option though.
FSA do a road bike crank that is available that short too although it has 46/30 chainrings. Its around £180 IIRC
Educational as always. Thank you Francis & James. @bikefitjames: as one adjusts saddle height when changing crank length is the same true for saddle setback (fore/aft)?
Does lowering the saddle open or close the hip angle. It's mentioned that lowering the saddle impinged the hips but that's all that was said. Thx
Having shorter cranks allows you to raise the saddle. By doing this, you can open up the hip angle when your foot is in the 12 o'clock position. A longer crank means lowering the saddle so that you don't fully extend the leg when the foot is in 6 o'clock position, but this means that the hip angle is smaller in the 12 position causing impingement. I hope that helps.
Bike fit Tuesday on a Tuesday???? Is the world coming to the end??? 😃
James is fantastic.
So, Dr Dani needed a shorter crank and saddle adjustments. Was a shorter/longer stem needed or a different angle? I notice that new bars were fitted to test bike. Did Dr Dani need a Narrower Bar? If a 170 Crank was fitted to bike then I am guessing a 40 or 42cm bar was also fitted and Dr Danni looked like she was a slim build so maybe 38cm bars
The bit about saddles being too wide, therefore riders sit forward on the narrower part to avoid the rubbing... I've been noticing that myself and wondering if it could be the case. It's validating to hear that it's something he sees a lot.
Hi. Do you mind to share the brand (or a link) for the insoles please. I’m watching from USA. Thank you so much
james, you’ve mentioned sourcing narrow bars from taiwan. any suggestions for someone on a budget who’s looking for 320mm bullhorns?
Great one, again...
In fact I went (as many of us) through tons and years of optimization, having learnt few things on my own.. wish I would pay more attention back then and had found some material of such quality...
Few pretty common things I use to suffer on:
- as soon as you start to move around sattle / jiggle and wabble on sattle the height is very likely too high (or dramatically too low)
- bending of the knees in lower dead end, as mentioned here, shouldn't go over 145° (linked pretty strong to sattle)... however seat post angle and adjustment range of sattle plays a role here as well
- try at least once shorter cranks, this might be game changer
- acknowledge, that 80% of handlebar optimization originates actually in wrong ratio between stack and reach... so basically the frame size / shape
Best bike fit video i've seen, before and after such a significant difference. A+ James
It's just clicked from your mates custom Sarto vid that this is your Mrs? Mate your not the elephant man or anything but you are punching there like.......chapeau!
She purty
How does one meet a gorgeous doctor who also cycles? Asking for a friend 😅
Step 1) have a successful UA-cam channel
Step 2) walk in to an American hospital with a “hurty”
@@Bikefitjames 🤣🤣🤣
@@Bikefitjames so that's what he tells everyone 🤣
Excellent, informative video Francis, James & Danii 👏.
Awesome
Very interesting.. My wife's 5 ft 2 and not the most confident on a bike. She always seems high on her saddle when the seat post is set to the height that "I" think it should be not what she wants ie her elbows almost banging her knees!! She always moans and never puts it where I think she would be more efficient. Never thought about the Bottom bracket height before. Great insightful video.
You're brilliant. I have the opposite problem. I'm 6 feet tall and can't get a good fit on a Brompton.
Every fitting video i see is titled (Suffering for X amount of years) you withstand terrible pain for so long. Cause you are certain you can make it work yourself. So you don't have to spend extra money. Cause the bike itself and the equipment is already extremely expensive. And after many years of pain and wasting money from the 20 saddles and 10 different bib shorts. You decide to spend them on bike fitting in hope cycling starts to become a joy and not a torture. If i could turn back time. I would do a bike fitting before i buy a bike. Not the opposite. I regret it.
Cycling is a very expensive hobby, it will never be mainstream for this reason alone.
i think the problem is that most people dont know about "bike fit" when they buy their first bike. they buy a bike and if they like it, they ride more and problems start to surface. im also a strong believer that a bikefiter can only do so much with a total noob who never rode more than 1 hour. i think the best clients for those fitters are people who already have a few miles under their belt and roughly know what problems occur after a certain time of riding.
A lot of it is industry's fault. Some may encourage competent bike fitters but then supply only t-shirt sizes with issues discussed here. Buying online (giving ALL the profits to the online merchant vs bike shop) just makes things worse. Buying a suit of clothes that can easily and cheaply be exchanged for the right size is far easier than trying to return a bicycle in a box..AFTER you've taken it out of the box and discovered it's the wrong size. But the industry doesn't care if you ride it, all they care is that you BOUGHT it!
Wait wait!! Wasn't she the lady you met in LA when you were touring through the States like a year back with the wheelchair dude?
Great vid, reallly enjoying getting to see the details of a bike fit between you and James' channels recent offerings.
Aww, she's so pretty, and she's a doctor. Congrats, you two. (I know it's been a while)
Great bike fit content, as usual.
Daniiiiiii
Is there anywhere I could get a similar service in central Texas? I can’t find anything promising when I look up bike fitting central Tx
any good recommendations for a good bike fitter in LA?
I know how this conversation went:
Wife: "Can do the bike fit please?"
James: "Ill do it tomorrow!"
Five years later....
If this was a regular customer, finding out that the solution is to spend $10,000 or more on a custom bike is its own kind of pain 😂.
You don’t mention wheel size in relation to bb drop (assuming bike is designed for that wheel size). Is this because small people need 700c wheels to keep up with mates? On smaller bikes that stay w 700c, doesn’t toe overlap also become an issue?
Big difference between the start and end position. Much less movement. Hope she has many happy cycling KMs!
Does anyone know where to get a bike fit this thorough in the Western USA? Everything around me is woefully inadequate.
Ahh! Dani is getting spoilt. Lucky girl.
So will it be a custom build?
"Not being able to touch the floor affect the confidence" so true! We need better designs...
Thanks Dani , Francis , and James . Do the same rules , or specs apply to a very tall person ? Be well , eh