As someone of American enslaved heritage, all of our surnames are Anglo/UK origin for the most part. I think that’s why Black American first names are so unique because we were creating our own thing, which makes it uniquely American. Unfortunately, “Black sounding names” do carry negative connotations in non-Black society. But outside of getting frustrated with people misspelling my name though, I like having a “unique” name by non-Black American standards. 😊
I wish as a descent of former enslaved people. That I knew their names. The names of their people, the names of their mothers and fathers. But man does this hit different.
I grew up in a mostly black town, as a pale white kid, and my name was the one consistently messed up. They expected to get whiplash in between Paradise, and Te'anquinae(I definitely misspelled that, we used to say her name on repeat because it was so cool, it almost rhymed with how you said it). They were not expecting to be sidelined by me.
I worked with a tribe. You have several families who were allowed to keep their clan name as their last names but those names were misspelled when written into English. The biggest yuck was there was no consistency by the census takers. So families had wild variations on how the name could be spelled and pronounced by future generations. Various men were related but separated by their new last names. Example Sook vs Suk vs Souk vs Souch... Apadikee vs Apadyqi, etc...
Unfortunately that wasn't isolated to indigenous ppl. Censuses are great for SOME info on past ppl, but I also have no idea what one family member's name was- possibly bc she was born in Brazil 🤷
Didnt read the info below your name when it came up at the beginning of the video but when you gave your whole name, I was like HOLD UP, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING I RECOGNIZE, I THINK I MIGHT KNOW WHAT COMMUNITY THATS FROM. I am from settler/immigrant background but live in Tiohtià:ke, homelands of the Kanien’kéha people. I just wanted to share this moment that brought me a smile to show how even just learning about the traditional name and people of your territory can provide you knowledge for other contexts like insight into how names are given. it's not enough, but it's an important start ❤
I'm from southern Brazil my grandmother's parents were both Mbyá Guaraní from Paraguay, and both moved to Brazil but at different times her father moved first, so when he got his documents he now had just a generic Portuguese name (they made sure the family names were very common names so that people wouldn't "abuse" it to get connections) when her mother moved to Brazil, there were now officially recognized indigenous surnames, but only the surnames that they selected for "sounding normal", so she (and many, many more) got her surname from Tupi Guaraní, a VERY DIFFERENT Guaraní group
@rockweirdo8147 No, because there is the gender of our body (our biology) and the gender of our mind (our psychology). There was a study done that confirmed that the brains of trans people are more similar to the gender they transitioned to than the sex they were born as which Robert Sapolsky a professor who studies neuroscience explains and there are credible sources that also confirm this so you can search it up if you have doubt. In short trans people don't disagree with biology they just choose to refer to their psychological gender over their biological one as they are two different things.
Everytime i see your videos/shorts i get SO EXCITED! I know im about to have my mind opened up and learn things from a perspective history thought they could erase. Thank you for educating the masses on this platform. It truly means a lot to me. ✌️🌍
My ancestor was named Siksigaaluk. He was renamed: assigned "Gerard" and his original name was turned into "Chicksi" for the ease of the assimilants. Now Chicksi is a family surname in the western legal sense, but is removed from its meaning, pronunciation and naming conventions.
Where I live in Hawaii, most native Hawaiians have extremely long Hawaiian names but in everyday settings go by a much-shortened version of it (like the video presenter, Tai'). I'm not at all saying this video's point is wrong, but the thumbnail names are long and sometimes something much shorter is just easier for everyone. It should definitely be a shortened nickname determined by self or family though, not something entirely different given by colonizers.
For a 'shorter' example, many New Zealand Maori were given English names as children. This is how my 70 year old father in law went to school with a boy named Rawiri at birth, but William by the time he got to school. It was only later he was able to reclaim his true name.
There's a similar thing that happened to muslim names in south east asia, where the naming convention was brought over by the British. Im singling out the muslim impact, because hindu and buddhist names already have a very similar structure to the European naming convention, so it was easier for them to adjust. Its still very prevalent to this day because, well, its convenient. Muslims never had "family names" per se, kinda similar to _medieval_ European names, where for the longest time it was just "A, son of B" or "John Profession". Sure, there were tribes you belonged to, based on location, but that was more of a title than part of the name. Being able to infer your full identity from just a few words is something we just accepted cos it was easier. The main difference here is that we had a choice. We were introduced to an idea and we took it and incorporated it because it sounded good to us. Having an identity forced onto you is downright evil, and i wish you all good luck in your endeavor to reclaim what was taken from you.
As the great granddaughter of a slave, and as someone who still carries the slave master surname, I can understand my given name being stolen and replaced by strangers that mean me nothing but harm.
That last question would be reversed in my case. I had to pick a new name because my old one was given with a certain perspective of who I was going to be (a woman). Reclaiming my gender meant giving myself a new name. Can totally identify with the importance of returning to familiar names.
I dont know why its just now occurred to me when watching this video that i could pick out a name for my self like this. Im half indigenous but so much was in the way of actually connecting to those roots, then i was given a European name. I could give myself thet name that was taken from my ancestors.
This is really similar to Jews in Europe. They were forced to take last names so that they could be drafted in the army and taxed by the non-Jewish authorities. Even today, Jewish people generally have at least two sets of names.
It was also common for pre-1948 Zionist settlers to adopt new names when arriving in Palestine. My last name Barlev only dates back four generations (as does the unrelated last name Bar-Lev).
@@GSBarlev Last names are kinda different, because, well, most people didn't have them. As for early Zionists changing their last names, that was ideological and voluntary. But Zionists were doing the same for Ethiopian Immigrants in the '90s, many had given names of Amharic origins, and they were changed to Hebrew names (eg. Abera was changed into Abraham)...
It's sad that there would be a confusion of cultural differences with national identity. We should be proud of our country's diversity and mixed heritage. I am proud to be of Hungarian heritage and study the language as do many other proud XXX-Americans revere their ancestry. If a painting were all one color, we could not see it.
I can understand this, but I know in my particular case, I felt rejected by my family of origin, so I have internalized the culture of my adoptive Dad. My children were raised w/ some contact w/ their cultures of origin so they feel included in part, but still, they're a hybrid.
Different era and context, but it is why Welsh surnames often have letters not in the Welsh alphabet, as English civil servants were giving set surnames and wrote in the fathers name in their linguistics. Before that it was patrynomy x son of y son of z. Where AP = child of
I have no pride in being white Australian. I know my ancestors were colonisers, stealing a country that was already inhabited. When I was selling my father's land to free up my inheritance, I desperately tried to have it bought by a local Indigenous organisation but was thwarted by my only sibling, a sister who is racist. It broke me when she managed to get her way and sell it to someone she knew, not allowing enough time for the local people to get their people together to decide and buy. I have no way of making amends, except to call out racism wherever I see it. Blessings to all First Nation people who are generous with their knowledge and wisdom. More power to you. I stand with you.
In Iceland, until like 15 years ago, you had to change as an immigrant to "fit in" if you wanted to get the nationality. I am so so happy I don't have to go through that, so violating. But I have an Icelandic friend, born in Iceland to an American dad and Icelandic mom, who had her name forcibly changed to make it more Icelandic compared to the name she was given at birth and how she had always written it. All her siblings too. It took decades to make it right, very recently.
Its extreamely difficult to research family history when names are changed. This I believe was to confuse and withhold not only cultural but spiritual traditions. I am thankful to my ancestors for passing down what little information they did. Its very veiled especially stuff from the 1600's when tribes were fighting eachother my ancestors were mixing with the French in Quebec (the lines between Indigenous and French settlers becomes blured) as the Haudenosaunee tried to kill them off many moved south. Info is there for the intuitive. I used to do research for a security company and when we follow our gut it generally brings us to the right direction.
Anyone looking for their ancestry should look up the meaning of the names in their heritage. Any landmarks that connect to names. And remember people in times gone by lived in much bigger extended family groups witjout the same lines we draw today...often marrying relatives or relatives of relatives.
I think you may want to reed up on first nation people's culture around hair and gender. Because you are showing a Eurocentric view on this subjects that mirrors the thought patterns that caused people to do these horrible acts.
@@Unsure_Aukletconsidering they were sad about it, I think they were talking about how the COLONIZERS cut their hair. It's about how they disrespected even their OWN gender roles to hurt them
In my tribe, everyone was given a last name the Indian Affairs guy liked. It was usually a first name, so there are a ton of people out in the west coast of BC named "John Johnny" or "Dustin Charlie" or "Simon Sam" etc. It's always felt a bit insulting that they were diminutives too, ngl.
I actually have beem having to struggle with inaccurate census data and forced name changes with US immigration records in a very similar way to this. I was looking over documents for a long deceased ancestor named Arcangelo. Problem was the only evidence of his own existence stopped after the emmigration paperwork from italy. I couldnt even find a grave for him. But i thought about the possibility of the name being changed when he got here and started looking into the name arcangelo. It turns out that many with that name were renamed Michael when immigrating to the US, after the arch angel both names derive from to mean "protector". I also had examples of people with multiple spellings for the same name to make it more phonetic to the english alphebet. And then that guy's dad was even harder to track down because he (and saying this shouldnt be too invasive) had the name Angelo Rafaelle Russo. His american name at his time of death was Mike Ruffle Russel. Unless you could mamage to find the registry from both Italy and the US, you wouldnt even be aware these are the same person looking at documents. But having both ledgers for the ship voyage put everything together. Seeing his name on the departures from Italy and lining it up on the arrivals sheet with where he and the rest of the family were on it.
Yup, names are important... I didn't know a single Jack growing up, who didn't go by John... or visa-versa... Robert was Bob, Michael was Mikey, etc... meanwhile, I was just Brett... felt very strange because people would try to make it Brettly, or something stupid because "what do you mean you don't have a name that can be nicknamed, shortened, or whatever" ...and yeah, I get that like a 0.0001 on a scale of 0 to 10, but that's all it takes to know you don't discriminate or dissolve someone's name.
Assimilation in colonialism is so complex. I study deeply the life of Ignacio Manuel Altamirano, who was a mexican writer, Cornell and politician. He was born in a indigenous village, and He's father sould a big portion of there land to colonists , so His son could learn Spanish and learn to ride a horse (it was forbidden). Eventually, Ignacio forget the Chontal langue. Whe he group, he was a pilar in building México public primary schooling. Untill today de biggest medal to Mexico's teachers has He's name. But He abolish the teaching of natives languages. When people ask him why He will answer "my father sould he's land whit dough knowing what He was writing, because He didn't know spanish".😢
I suspect that's also why women in our society are expected to take their husband's last name, and why it's often such a big deal when we decide not to do so. It absorbs her into her husband's family and sort of dissolves - or at least obscures - her origin.
Earlier I made an inappropriate demand on this short for Tai to make a short of him sounding out his name for us. Someone called me out for that comment, and rightfully so, and in a moment of panic, I deleted the entire comment thread because I don't WANT to be offensive, rude, racist, etc. In hindsight, I regret deleting it because it would have been an educational opportunity for other, as Nique Marina puts it, "printer paper-colored people". To the person who called me out, thank you. I want to do right, and I WANT people to tell me when I'm not. To Tai, other Native Americans, and anyone else I may have offended by making a demand rather than a polite request for help and additional resources, I wish to offer my sincerest apology. I want to take responsibility for my actions and be better.
Living in Western Washington State we have a lot of native place names. Some are anglicised, but many are not. It’s fun to see who’s new by how badly they mispronounce the place names.
And that’s why, when I got married, instead of getting an interesting Blackfoot name, I got one of the most common boring, white men names….Jones…. It’s welsh for Johnson.
Actually it is English for belonging to John (John's) but as the English development of surnames pre dated the Welsh, they came in and used father's names, but spelled according to English phonetics. Hence common Welsh surnames linked to popular male names of the time, and spelled with letters like J and V which are not in the Welsh alphabet.
Honestly if the natives renamed everyone in the U.S. with native names and made us use the native languages i wouldnt be that mad. This is not to say what our ancestors did was right, just my opinion that it'd be neat. Honestly in areas where the language exists it should be studied and added to elementary curriculum and spread out to further districts.
Cultural superiority is universal. Almost every culture (if not every culture) has some word or phrase equivalent to “barbarian“ that they used to refer distastefully to outsiders. The idea that this is unique to western or colonial powers is simply false. You can find people living by pre-industrial standards in the middle of the jungle or desert and, if you get close enough to them and they are honest with you, rhey will eventually explain why their culture and values are superior. Please note that I am not excusing colonialism, but we should understand that these prejudices are not unique to colonial powers.
@@helenr4300 Yes, and that's kind of my point. We often frame non-colonial powers as morally superior to colonial powers. But the truth is, they would likely have been just as brutal and exploitative if they had the power and the opportunity to act on it. Had they had superior technology and organizational skills, perhaps today we would be condemning Africans, Native Americans and Asias for their brutality and be looking at Europeans as peaceful people cruelly victimized at the hands of non-white people.
Tbh i'm aleready not a fan of having a name that wasn't chosen by me. Like i understand it's worse if it's chosen for yoy by colonizers who don't even care about you, but even the name that was passed on to me and the name people who didn't know me yet choose for me alreayd make me uncomfortable. I think we should all get to pick our names according to our identity
Colonist didn't sound right coming out of my speakers the first time he said it so it instead sounded like "calmest." So superiority complex seemed like one hell of an answer. lol
Love how you talk about superiority complex like this is not what you have in this video. You are not better then anyone based on who your ancestors were or. It’s great that you’re reconnecting with your ancestors roots, however you don’t get to make people feel bad based on the color of their skin. That’s called racism. You where not the only ones colonized by the Brits. Irish and Scottish people are colonized as well. Irish people where killed for simply having their hands in their pockets when royalty was around. Not a lot of people still speak fluently in the Irish language. Have a nice day.
No one changed the names of Biblical characters, they merely butchered them (which is understandable, because it's a cross-linguistic phenomenon)... The thing they DID change, however, was calling it "Old Testament" when it's just "Hebrew Bible", that name's derogatory...
@@adrianblake8876 Fyi; The Tanakh aka "old testament" is nonfiction and it is not a "religion," the talmud, "new testament" and quran however are all fiction, aka man made "religions," because believe it or not, THE CREATOR does not condone any man made "religions" at all in the first place. Adam - Hueman Eve - Hhawah Cain - Qayin Abel - Hevel Abraham - Avraham Isaac - Yits'hhaq Jacob - Ya'aqov Moses - Mosheh, etc... They changed the names to make them more relatable to recessive genetic Europeans, so that they will more readily believe the lies their ancestors told them about their fictional pagan "religion," which was created by the Piso-Flavians of Rome.
@@TheZenGarden_ 1. All of your examples are not "changing names" but "butchering"... European languages don't have gutterals, or pharyngialized consonants, so names like "Yis'haq" and "Ya'qov" has to drop the gutterals to become "Isaac" and "Jacob". Then English butchers the vowels so they become /aizek/ and /ʤejkob/...
@@TheZenGarden_ 2. Did you read the first five books of the Bible!? They're definitely religion, which is why they're named "The Law", and while back then (and even nowadays) people believed the events described in them happened, this is more mythology than actual history, aka, not non-fiction in the least (how is a story about a talking snake "nonfiction" exactly!?)
@@adrianblake8876 Europeans changed the name of peoples, lands, rivers, oceans, stars, everything to mold the world in their pagan image. Believe it or not, this world does not belong to recessive genetic pagans from Europe. Fyi; S8tN's kinder can only rule the world with lies and violence because the TRUTH and PEACE does not support violent liars. ⌛
Wow I sure hope nothing of the sort is happening right now in the middle east. I sure hope that cities like Tel Aviv have just been called that for centuries and weren’t renamed or anything after conquest.
1. Telaviv is a new city, not founded on anything old. 2. Yes, they were called like that for centuries, the names still exist, and no-one changed the names. Besides, if Israel changes the name, it's usually to an older name, eg. calling Nablus Shechem ("Nablus" is literally the newer name, being an Arabic corruption of Naples, which means "New City")...
@ Tel Aviv was established on the outskirts of Jaffa and had since overtaken it. The Israeli government has since Hebrew-fied the name of the small port city that has been integrated under Tel Aviv government to Yafo. Nablus was founded by the Romans a mile away from Shechem which had already been destroyed by the Romans at the time of its establishment. There’s no point in trying to argue against this here. The JNF had established a committee to name settlements in 1925 including renaming existing villages and the Israeli government took over this project by establishing a committee to rename new settlements in 1950 after the Nakba “conveniently” created a number of empty villages just waiting for settlers to take. The history is simple and clear. Palestine was not an empty desert, it was a region emptied by settler violence and in the rare case where a city is given a name that it may have at one time historically held, you need to understand that that does not justify expulsion and cultural erasure of a population.
@@Adamrc98 Jaffa was not "renamed" to Yafo, Yafo is just the Hebrew version of the same name, that's like saying the Zionists renamed Jerusalem to Yerushalayim, or Tiberias to Tverya... Or as another example, like the Italians renamed Naples to Napoli and Florence to Firenze, or the Germans renamed Cologne to Köln, Munich to München, and Germany to Deutschland... BTW, there is no cultural erasure. Arabs in Israel have always had the rights to preserve their culture. Arabic is an official language in Israel, and all the Arabic names appear on roadsigns EXACTLY as they were named. So Jaffa appears as يافا and definitely not يافو...
@ It actually does matter quite a bit. It is not at all like saying the Italians renamed Naples to Napoli or the Germans Cologne to Köln. Your drawing a false equivalence with the implication that the Hebraization is somehow a restoration of the local names and not part of an attempt to create a new national character to replace that of the Palestinians, Muslims, Christian’s, and Jews prior to 1948. Early in the Soviet years they took great care to Russify names of places. St Petersburg became Petrograd and so forth. If I remember correctly the English speaking west made a great deal of fuss about everyone being sure to say Kyiv and not Kiev. Also you should know as well as I that sure, for quite some time arabic had been an official language but it has not been for 6 years and that is the point. While many place names were transliterated, and many were translated, many were altogether replaced. Place names are an important part of is crafting a new national identity. The issue here is that they seek to replace the cultural identity of those who had been expelled and physically replaced during the Nakba.
People need to stop living in the past. If everything that happened in the past hadn't happened exactly the way it did you wouldn't be standing there moaning about the exact circumstances that led to your conception and birth. Also learn some world history, none of this is exclusive or special to you.
Don’t have a choice at this point. Ours was lost when y’all’s ancestors beat it out of our ancestors, silly. Don’t you even know your own people’s history?
Yeah, but this wasn't only done to natives, it was also done to anyone entering the country with a strange name, essentially it was because their names were too hard to pronounce, including Europeans. Also, some cultures are 100% better than others, and most native cultures were terrible and backwards, nothing was lost when they disappeared.
I can’t think of a single native culture that was worse than western european countries (though quite a few that are “on par”) and i’m thinking of quite a few dozen tribes.
@@Tijereño - What about any of their culture was good? They had no innovation (they hadn't even invented the wheel), no idea of rights (The idea of rights existed in the west, it was just not coined immediately), they had primal religions, they were constantly warring (Far more than even the Europeans, we just have more records), many didn't have any idea of property, they would go on raiding parties, kill innocent people, and take women and children as slaves (This did happen in European cultures, but was fading out by then), they didn't even respect nature, that's a myth. So no, I wouldn't call them "on par" at all.
Why don't you just say that you don't like the fact that Europeans took over North America. Is an undeniable fact that some cultures are superior to others. This can be seen throughout all of history. Your premise shouldn't be that people live in a colonist society And that cultural genocide is wrong, your premise should be You're unhappy that your ancestors lost some of their cultural identity and it's not fair. the fact of the matter is that there are many cultures that are far superior to others. A great example would be that the Iroquois Confederacy was far superior to many other native American cultures. It was one of the many things we based the American form of government upon. Hiding your true resentment and irritation for what your ancestors Lost is a little misleading. I confess I'm not familiar with your particular tribe's culture, but I'm 100% certain that there are counting societies that are far superior to other societies.
Pretty much all of what you said is absolute drivel, but the Iroquois comment proved to me that you just didn’t do your research. First of all, the Haudenosaunee were a confederacy of five nations (six after 1722) five nations always fighting together will necessarily be stronger. Second of all, their massive conquests during the Beaver Wars were because of guns they acquired from the Dutch. A culture does not become “superior” to another culture just by happening to be in a location where new weapons are available. This is not Pokemon. The Haundenosaunee lived very similarly to their neighbors, all of whom were agricultural. And genocide is genocide. There are plenty of instances of real “vanilla” genocides against indigenous peoples. Go look them up. When people say that forced loss of culture is part of genocide, they are not saying that loss of culture alone IS the genocide. But of course you’re already well aware, since i suspect you’re lying for attention.
Listen Tai' Leclaire, you have a french-canadien family name, because one of your ancestors made a baby with a peaceful french-canadien... The way you pronounce your ancestral name look woke like hell. It sounds like pronoun people, where you have to explain to other the meaning of it. Cut it clear. Welcome to the true reality. You're handsome and you're free to soar. Happy to see you on the web anyway...
Yall mostly obviously did want to assimilate. Since it was that or removal… of course. This is how the game works buddy. You want to be absorbed into the dominant culture… you’re lucky you were privileged enough to be able to do so.
Hey, just had another shot, would you say cultures that thought it was okay for adult men to have sexual relations with pre-adolescent children as valuable as sellers who outlawed the practice? Would that be acceptable in your mind?
The f, what is wrong with you. The man is talking about naming conventions and cultural genocide. Why fling That into the mix out of literally no were, Fix yourself.
WHOAH there Icarus, flying a little too close to making sense for the comment section of a video about "cultural genocide" suffered by a series of warring tribes who found out they weren't that good at war after all.
So you're saying ancient Greek culture, which considered sexual relations between adults and children to be an ideal relationship, is of lesser value and modern western culture is suspect for being influenced by the ancient Greeks and considering it the foundation of our modern society? 🤔
As opposed to today's white christian nationalists that want to make 14 year old girls marry grown adult men? I think there's a saying for this involving glass houses.
Quick question., where did you become so informed and educated on past historical tribal colonization events…I hope it wasn’t in a colonial educational institution, love what you’re wearing n your colonial English grammar is perfect , well trained vocal dynamics…
It wasn't because they refuse to teach any of this in a colonial education institute, we have to learn our own histories from our communities and doing our own research. We are forced to learn the colonized languages. Also, we still have better written grammar than you, who doesn't know how to use punctuation.
Cool story, I'm curious. Would you say that cultures that valued human sacrifice and infantside where every bit as valuable as colonizers who valued children, and didn't practice human sacrifice? I'm just curious as to what your thoughts are
Yeah...the colonizers didn't really value the indigenous children. They were spreading their own culture and attaining the land for their Western Expansion. They abused and killed a LOT of the children they seized. Not just in the Americas but tribal people all over the world. If anything it was a thin vineer of "care" to "remove the savage" from these children. I'm quoting as several people in history were documented as having actually said the quiet part out loud....
So current white American culture where women's health and reproductive rights are being taken away and we allow guns to run rampant to sacrifice to the gun lobby. Same yeah?
Colonizers most definitely sacrificed other humans and their children in the name of money and land (their true god). In fact they were quite proficient at it and better at it than most. Millions died at their hand but you know who cares about facts when making hypocritical statements is so much more entertaining.
Bad faith comment, it may not be what you meant but it reads off that you think indigenous cultures as dirty and uncivilized compared to the "proper" West Remember that the English ate mummies too and so many other more "civilized" countries eradicated cultures and destroyed countries
I feel frustrated for people who've been oppressed in the past or recently, in fact. My apologies for the bad behavior of my ancestral group, whoever they were. 🫤
As someone of American enslaved heritage, all of our surnames are Anglo/UK origin for the most part. I think that’s why Black American first names are so unique because we were creating our own thing, which makes it uniquely American. Unfortunately, “Black sounding names” do carry negative connotations in non-Black society. But outside of getting frustrated with people misspelling my name though, I like having a “unique” name by non-Black American standards. 😊
Yup. My mom promised my grandmother to not name us "slave" names. So she tried to go creative/African/Arabic instead. Grandma approved
I wish as a descent of former enslaved people. That I knew their names. The names of their people, the names of their mothers and fathers.
But man does this hit different.
@@spiritsongtressit's not the same but you could do a 23 and me kit to learn more about your heritage!
I grew up in a mostly black town, as a pale white kid, and my name was the one consistently messed up. They expected to get whiplash in between Paradise, and Te'anquinae(I definitely misspelled that, we used to say her name on repeat because it was so cool, it almost rhymed with how you said it). They were not expecting to be sidelined by me.
Right! He was like “imagine if…” and as a Black American I was like “I don’t have to imagine that, though?” 😂
I worked with a tribe. You have several families who were allowed to keep their clan name as their last names but those names were misspelled when written into English. The biggest yuck was there was no consistency by the census takers. So families had wild variations on how the name could be spelled and pronounced by future generations. Various men were related but separated by their new last names. Example Sook vs Suk vs Souk vs Souch... Apadikee vs Apadyqi, etc...
Damn Bruh ‘Sook’? they made that Family into Koreans
Unfortunately that wasn't isolated to indigenous ppl. Censuses are great for SOME info on past ppl, but I also have no idea what one family member's name was- possibly bc she was born in Brazil 🤷
Didnt read the info below your name when it came up at the beginning of the video but when you gave your whole name, I was like HOLD UP, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING I RECOGNIZE, I THINK I MIGHT KNOW WHAT COMMUNITY THATS FROM. I am from settler/immigrant background but live in Tiohtià:ke, homelands of the Kanien’kéha people. I just wanted to share this moment that brought me a smile to show how even just learning about the traditional name and people of your territory can provide you knowledge for other contexts like insight into how names are given. it's not enough, but it's an important start ❤
I'm from southern Brazil
my grandmother's parents were both Mbyá Guaraní from Paraguay, and both moved to Brazil but at different times
her father moved first, so when he got his documents he now had just a generic Portuguese name (they made sure the family names were very common names so that people wouldn't "abuse" it to get connections)
when her mother moved to Brazil, there were now officially recognized indigenous surnames, but only the surnames that they selected for "sounding normal", so she (and many, many more) got her surname from Tupi Guaraní, a VERY DIFFERENT Guaraní group
Trans guy here. And yeah, names are important and feeling connected to your name is a very precious thing.
Therefore, you changed it because you disagree with biology, odd.
@rockweirdo8147 No, because there is the gender of our body (our biology) and the gender of our mind (our psychology). There was a study done that confirmed that the brains of trans people are more similar to the gender they transitioned to than the sex they were born as which Robert Sapolsky a professor who studies neuroscience explains and there are credible sources that also confirm this so you can search it up if you have doubt. In short trans people don't disagree with biology they just choose to refer to their psychological gender over their biological one as they are two different things.
@@rockweirdo8147 dude grow up
@@Lalala-maybelater - Grow up and drink the kool-aid? Deny basic biology in exchange for ideology? No thanks, I'll be a rational person.
@@rockweirdo8147 having a tantrum in youtube comments doesn’t exactly paint you as the rational type bud.
Everytime i see your videos/shorts i get SO EXCITED! I know im about to have my mind opened up and learn things from a perspective history thought they could erase.
Thank you for educating the masses on this platform. It truly means a lot to me. ✌️🌍
This is an important template to understand, to recognise power.
I'm of African & Native American heritage. We can relate
Are you born in America but call yourself an African American, or where you born in Africa?
What term do you like? Afro Native?African Indian? Whats best for you?
What percentage Native are you?
What nation are you?
My ancestor was named Siksigaaluk. He was renamed: assigned "Gerard" and his original name was turned into "Chicksi" for the ease of the assimilants. Now Chicksi is a family surname in the western legal sense, but is removed from its meaning, pronunciation and naming conventions.
Where I live in Hawaii, most native Hawaiians have extremely long Hawaiian names but in everyday settings go by a much-shortened version of it (like the video presenter, Tai'). I'm not at all saying this video's point is wrong, but the thumbnail names are long and sometimes something much shorter is just easier for everyone. It should definitely be a shortened nickname determined by self or family though, not something entirely different given by colonizers.
For a 'shorter' example, many New Zealand Maori were given English names as children. This is how my 70 year old father in law went to school with a boy named Rawiri at birth, but William by the time he got to school. It was only later he was able to reclaim his true name.
I think this analogues well with how European names work. First, middle, then family name. but people hardly go by all 3, y'know
There's a similar thing that happened to muslim names in south east asia, where the naming convention was brought over by the British. Im singling out the muslim impact, because hindu and buddhist names already have a very similar structure to the European naming convention, so it was easier for them to adjust. Its still very prevalent to this day because, well, its convenient. Muslims never had "family names" per se, kinda similar to _medieval_ European names, where for the longest time it was just "A, son of B" or "John Profession". Sure, there were tribes you belonged to, based on location, but that was more of a title than part of the name. Being able to infer your full identity from just a few words is something we just accepted cos it was easier.
The main difference here is that we had a choice. We were introduced to an idea and we took it and incorporated it because it sounded good to us.
Having an identity forced onto you is downright evil, and i wish you all good luck in your endeavor to reclaim what was taken from you.
As the great granddaughter of a slave, and as someone who still carries the slave master surname, I can understand my given name being stolen and replaced by strangers that mean me nothing but harm.
The culture bleaching is real, felt by us all,
بہت عمدہ معلومات، تحقیق، اللہ آپ پر رحمت نازل فرمائے
That last question would be reversed in my case. I had to pick a new name because my old one was given with a certain perspective of who I was going to be (a woman). Reclaiming my gender meant giving myself a new name. Can totally identify with the importance of returning to familiar names.
I dont know why its just now occurred to me when watching this video that i could pick out a name for my self like this. Im half indigenous but so much was in the way of actually connecting to those roots, then i was given a European name. I could give myself thet name that was taken from my ancestors.
This is really similar to Jews in Europe. They were forced to take last names so that they could be drafted in the army and taxed by the non-Jewish authorities. Even today, Jewish people generally have at least two sets of names.
It was also common for pre-1948 Zionist settlers to adopt new names when arriving in Palestine. My last name Barlev only dates back four generations (as does the unrelated last name Bar-Lev).
@@GSBarlev Last names are kinda different, because, well, most people didn't have them. As for early Zionists changing their last names, that was ideological and voluntary.
But Zionists were doing the same for Ethiopian Immigrants in the '90s, many had given names of Amharic origins, and they were changed to Hebrew names (eg. Abera was changed into Abraham)...
It's sad that there would be a confusion of cultural differences with national identity. We should be proud of our country's diversity and mixed heritage. I am proud to be of Hungarian heritage and study the language as do many other proud XXX-Americans revere their ancestry. If a painting were all one color, we could not see it.
I can understand this, but I know in my particular case, I felt rejected by my family of origin, so I have internalized the culture of my adoptive Dad. My children were raised w/ some contact w/ their cultures of origin so they feel included in part, but still, they're a hybrid.
Different era and context, but it is why Welsh surnames often have letters not in the Welsh alphabet, as English civil servants were giving set surnames and wrote in the fathers name in their linguistics. Before that it was patrynomy x son of y son of z. Where AP = child of
Before my dad’s family came to the United States, our last name was actually Ajquijay (Ah-Kee-High).
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i just can’t comprehend how anyone could think this way. they were brewing hatred for centuries
I have no pride in being white Australian. I know my ancestors were colonisers, stealing a country that was already inhabited. When I was selling my father's land to free up my inheritance, I desperately tried to have it bought by a local Indigenous organisation but was thwarted by my only sibling, a sister who is racist. It broke me when she managed to get her way and sell it to someone she knew, not allowing enough time for the local people to get their people together to decide and buy. I have no way of making amends, except to call out racism wherever I see it. Blessings to all First Nation people who are generous with their knowledge and wisdom. More power to you. I stand with you.
In Iceland, until like 15 years ago, you had to change as an immigrant to "fit in" if you wanted to get the nationality. I am so so happy I don't have to go through that, so violating. But I have an Icelandic friend, born in Iceland to an American dad and Icelandic mom, who had her name forcibly changed to make it more Icelandic compared to the name she was given at birth and how she had always written it. All her siblings too. It took decades to make it right, very recently.
Its extreamely difficult to research family history when names are changed. This I believe was to confuse and withhold not only cultural but spiritual traditions. I am thankful to my ancestors for passing down what little information they did. Its very veiled especially stuff from the 1600's when tribes were fighting eachother my ancestors were mixing with the French in Quebec (the lines between Indigenous and French settlers becomes blured) as the Haudenosaunee tried to kill them off many moved south.
Info is there for the intuitive. I used to do research for a security company and when we follow our gut it generally brings us to the right direction.
Anyone looking for their ancestry should look up the meaning of the names in their heritage. Any landmarks that connect to names. And remember people in times gone by lived in much bigger extended family groups witjout the same lines we draw today...often marrying relatives or relatives of relatives.
Twenty-five million names - Lost
It's stark looking back through genealogical records and long lines of beautiful indigenous names and suddenly everyone is Mary, William, John etc.
Also note how short the children were required to cut their hair. Even the little girls. 😢
I think you may want to reed up on first nation people's culture around hair and gender. Because you are showing a Eurocentric view on this subjects that mirrors the thought patterns that caused people to do these horrible acts.
@@Unsure_Aukletconsidering they were sad about it, I think they were talking about how the COLONIZERS cut their hair. It's about how they disrespected even their OWN gender roles to hurt them
Names are sacred and taking that away from a person is just about one of the most dehumanizing, soul crushing things you can do.
Fascinating and heartbreaking!
In my tribe, everyone was given a last name the Indian Affairs guy liked. It was usually a first name, so there are a ton of people out in the west coast of BC named "John Johnny" or "Dustin Charlie" or "Simon Sam" etc. It's always felt a bit insulting that they were diminutives too, ngl.
I actually have beem having to struggle with inaccurate census data and forced name changes with US immigration records in a very similar way to this. I was looking over documents for a long deceased ancestor named Arcangelo. Problem was the only evidence of his own existence stopped after the emmigration paperwork from italy. I couldnt even find a grave for him. But i thought about the possibility of the name being changed when he got here and started looking into the name arcangelo. It turns out that many with that name were renamed Michael when immigrating to the US, after the arch angel both names derive from to mean "protector". I also had examples of people with multiple spellings for the same name to make it more phonetic to the english alphebet. And then that guy's dad was even harder to track down because he (and saying this shouldnt be too invasive) had the name Angelo Rafaelle Russo. His american name at his time of death was Mike Ruffle Russel. Unless you could mamage to find the registry from both Italy and the US, you wouldnt even be aware these are the same person looking at documents. But having both ledgers for the ship voyage put everything together. Seeing his name on the departures from Italy and lining it up on the arrivals sheet with where he and the rest of the family were on it.
Yup, names are important... I didn't know a single Jack growing up, who didn't go by John... or visa-versa... Robert was Bob, Michael was Mikey, etc... meanwhile, I was just Brett... felt very strange because people would try to make it Brettly, or something stupid because "what do you mean you don't have a name that can be nicknamed, shortened, or whatever" ...and yeah, I get that like a 0.0001 on a scale of 0 to 10, but that's all it takes to know you don't discriminate or dissolve someone's name.
It is slowly but surely happening in the UK
THANKS for pointing out the " colonist society " culture .
Same thing happened to the British and French that named you. Their language and culture was erased by the romans.
Beautiful name
Assimilation in colonialism is so complex. I study deeply the life of Ignacio Manuel Altamirano, who was a mexican writer, Cornell and politician. He was born in a indigenous village, and He's father sould a big portion of there land to colonists , so His son could learn Spanish and learn to ride a horse (it was forbidden). Eventually, Ignacio forget the Chontal langue. Whe he group, he was a pilar in building México public primary schooling. Untill today de biggest medal to Mexico's teachers has He's name. But He abolish the teaching of natives languages. When people ask him why He will answer "my father sould he's land whit dough knowing what He was writing, because He didn't know spanish".😢
Geography though? Typically tons of names of native origin. It's almost like gloating that something was here before and now it isn't.
I suspect that's also why women in our society are expected to take their husband's last name, and why it's often such a big deal when we decide not to do so. It absorbs her into her husband's family and sort of dissolves - or at least obscures - her origin.
Its why i insist on my name being said correctly 😉 and love the cultural connections they give me... thanks mom and dad
Earlier I made an inappropriate demand on this short for Tai to make a short of him sounding out his name for us. Someone called me out for that comment, and rightfully so, and in a moment of panic, I deleted the entire comment thread because I don't WANT to be offensive, rude, racist, etc. In hindsight, I regret deleting it because it would have been an educational opportunity for other, as Nique Marina puts it, "printer paper-colored people". To the person who called me out, thank you. I want to do right, and I WANT people to tell me when I'm not. To Tai, other Native Americans, and anyone else I may have offended by making a demand rather than a polite request for help and additional resources, I wish to offer my sincerest apology. I want to take responsibility for my actions and be better.
Im now culturally exhausted by everyone and everyone's culture.... culturally exhausted I tells ya.
In México I only know of Mayans today keeping their Mayan last name and I don't know if it's because of what he says in the video... Would make sense
My families names were anglicized, as almost all of our ancestors' names were in the process of colonization. It still makes me angry.
PURE EVIL- those colonizers. 💔
We are slip back 😢its so sad 😞.
Living in Western Washington State we have a lot of native place names. Some are anglicised, but many are not. It’s fun to see who’s new by how badly they mispronounce the place names.
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It's so sad how bullies have been reeking havoc for centuries. Cloud ppl should be ashamed of their "culture"
The States are still doing this in public schools and by county ,state and federal courts and clerical offices .
My last name is a perfect example that it was miss pronounced i cannt even spell the way it was really pronounced i know it has to do with thunder....
And that’s why, when I got married, instead of getting an interesting Blackfoot name, I got one of the most common boring, white men names….Jones…. It’s welsh for Johnson.
Actually it is English for belonging to John (John's) but as the English development of surnames pre dated the Welsh, they came in and used father's names, but spelled according to English phonetics. Hence common Welsh surnames linked to popular male names of the time, and spelled with letters like J and V which are not in the Welsh alphabet.
Ya well I got a Highlander name that's been fighting off kings for centuries
Honestly if the natives renamed everyone in the U.S. with native names and made us use the native languages i wouldnt be that mad.
This is not to say what our ancestors did was right, just my opinion that it'd be neat.
Honestly in areas where the language exists it should be studied and added to elementary curriculum and spread out to further districts.
Mohawk tribe like Assassin's Creed 3 😄🪶
You black?
Normalize asking those people where they're REALLY from 🧐
Shits wild 😵💫
Cultural superiority is universal. Almost every culture (if not every culture) has some word or phrase equivalent to “barbarian“ that they used to refer distastefully to outsiders. The idea that this is unique to western or colonial powers is simply false. You can find people living by pre-industrial standards in the middle of the jungle or desert and, if you get close enough to them and they are honest with you, rhey will eventually explain why their culture and values are superior. Please note that I am not excusing colonialism, but we should understand that these prejudices are not unique to colonial powers.
True, but colonial powers took that superiority to other people and enforced it.
@@helenr4300 Yes, and that's kind of my point. We often frame non-colonial powers as morally superior to colonial powers. But the truth is, they would likely have been just as brutal and exploitative if they had the power and the opportunity to act on it. Had they had superior technology and organizational skills, perhaps today we would be condemning Africans, Native Americans and Asias for their brutality and be looking at Europeans as peaceful people cruelly victimized at the hands of non-white people.
Oh god. Here we go again.
Tbh i'm aleready not a fan of having a name that wasn't chosen by me. Like i understand it's worse if it's chosen for yoy by colonizers who don't even care about you, but even the name that was passed on to me and the name people who didn't know me yet choose for me alreayd make me uncomfortable. I think we should all get to pick our names according to our identity
Black people sitting in the corner quiet.
My Real Tsekene name is
Mukehgeh (Muh-Kay-Gey)
Was my grandpas name and his dads name and his dads dads name so its a long line
Colonist didn't sound right coming out of my speakers the first time he said it so it instead sounded like "calmest." So superiority complex seemed like one hell of an answer. lol
Honestly, my last name is Klobusicky im fine if you want to change it to something simpler maybe
You all are not the only ones who had to take on Christian names.
Love how you talk about superiority complex like this is not what you have in this video. You are not better then anyone based on who your ancestors were or. It’s great that you’re reconnecting with your ancestors roots, however you don’t get to make people feel bad based on the color of their skin. That’s called racism. You where not the only ones colonized by the Brits. Irish and Scottish people are colonized as well. Irish people where killed for simply having their hands in their pockets when royalty was around. Not a lot of people still speak fluently in the Irish language.
Have a nice day.
Jokes on you I'm irish.
They are
My last name is anglcanized.
They also changed the name of 90% of the hueman beings in the "old testament," obviously not a new tactic for them.
No one changed the names of Biblical characters, they merely butchered them (which is understandable, because it's a cross-linguistic phenomenon)...
The thing they DID change, however, was calling it "Old Testament" when it's just "Hebrew Bible", that name's derogatory...
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Fyi; The Tanakh aka "old testament" is nonfiction and it is not a "religion," the talmud, "new testament" and quran however are all fiction, aka man made "religions," because believe it or not, THE CREATOR does not condone any man made "religions" at all in the first place.
Adam - Hueman
Eve - Hhawah
Cain - Qayin
Abel - Hevel
Abraham - Avraham
Isaac - Yits'hhaq
Jacob - Ya'aqov
Moses - Mosheh, etc...
They changed the names to make them more relatable to recessive genetic Europeans, so that they will more readily believe the lies their ancestors told them about their fictional pagan "religion," which was created by the Piso-Flavians of Rome.
@@TheZenGarden_ 1. All of your examples are not "changing names" but "butchering"...
European languages don't have gutterals, or pharyngialized consonants, so names like "Yis'haq" and "Ya'qov" has to drop the gutterals to become "Isaac" and "Jacob". Then English butchers the vowels so they become /aizek/ and /ʤejkob/...
@@TheZenGarden_ 2. Did you read the first five books of the Bible!? They're definitely religion, which is why they're named "The Law", and while back then (and even nowadays) people believed the events described in them happened, this is more mythology than actual history, aka, not non-fiction in the least (how is a story about a talking snake "nonfiction" exactly!?)
@@adrianblake8876
Europeans changed the name of peoples, lands, rivers, oceans, stars, everything to mold the world in their pagan image. Believe it or not, this world does not belong to recessive genetic pagans from Europe.
Fyi; S8tN's kinder can only rule the world with lies and violence because the TRUTH and PEACE does not support violent liars. ⌛
Wow I sure hope nothing of the sort is happening right now in the middle east. I sure hope that cities like Tel Aviv have just been called that for centuries and weren’t renamed or anything after conquest.
Exactly what I thought too
1. Telaviv is a new city, not founded on anything old.
2. Yes, they were called like that for centuries, the names still exist, and no-one changed the names. Besides, if Israel changes the name, it's usually to an older name, eg. calling Nablus Shechem ("Nablus" is literally the newer name, being an Arabic corruption of Naples, which means "New City")...
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Tel Aviv was established on the outskirts of Jaffa and had since overtaken it. The Israeli government has since Hebrew-fied the name of the small port city that has been integrated under Tel Aviv government to Yafo.
Nablus was founded by the Romans a mile away from Shechem which had already been destroyed by the Romans at the time of its establishment.
There’s no point in trying to argue against this here. The JNF had established a committee to name settlements in 1925 including renaming existing villages and the Israeli government took over this project by establishing a committee to rename new settlements in 1950 after the Nakba “conveniently” created a number of empty villages just waiting for settlers to take.
The history is simple and clear.
Palestine was not an empty desert, it was a region emptied by settler violence and in the rare case where a city is given a name that it may have at one time historically held, you need to understand that that does not justify expulsion and cultural erasure of a population.
@@Adamrc98 Jaffa was not "renamed" to Yafo, Yafo is just the Hebrew version of the same name, that's like saying the Zionists renamed Jerusalem to Yerushalayim, or Tiberias to Tverya...
Or as another example, like the Italians renamed Naples to Napoli and Florence to Firenze, or the Germans renamed Cologne to Köln, Munich to München, and Germany to Deutschland...
BTW, there is no cultural erasure. Arabs in Israel have always had the rights to preserve their culture. Arabic is an official language in Israel, and all the Arabic names appear on roadsigns EXACTLY as they were named. So Jaffa appears as يافا and definitely not يافو...
@ It actually does matter quite a bit. It is not at all like saying the Italians renamed Naples to Napoli or the Germans Cologne to Köln. Your drawing a false equivalence with the implication that the Hebraization is somehow a restoration of the local names and not part of an attempt to create a new national character to replace that of the Palestinians, Muslims, Christian’s, and Jews prior to 1948.
Early in the Soviet years they took great care to Russify names of places. St Petersburg became Petrograd and so forth.
If I remember correctly the English speaking west made a great deal of fuss about everyone being sure to say Kyiv and not Kiev.
Also you should know as well as I that sure, for quite some time arabic had been an official language but it has not been for 6 years and that is the point.
While many place names were transliterated, and many were translated, many were altogether replaced.
Place names are an important part of is crafting a new national identity. The issue here is that they seek to replace the cultural identity of those who had been expelled and physically replaced during the Nakba.
Be glad there's enough of you left to complain.
The irony is in a lecture on erasure of cultural names you dont realize the most common names in the US have Abrahamic origins, not English.
Tai didn't mention the origin of the names you just didn't listen or are misunderstanding
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Oh no…
People need to stop living in the past. If everything that happened in the past hadn't happened exactly the way it did you wouldn't be standing there moaning about the exact circumstances that led to your conception and birth. Also learn some world history, none of this is exclusive or special to you.
This guy says he didn’t want to assimilate so he doesn’t have to keep using our language.
Don’t have a choice at this point. Ours was lost when y’all’s ancestors beat it out of our ancestors, silly. Don’t you even know your own people’s history?
rage bait
Yeah, but this wasn't only done to natives, it was also done to anyone entering the country with a strange name, essentially it was because their names were too hard to pronounce, including Europeans.
Also, some cultures are 100% better than others, and most native cultures were terrible and backwards, nothing was lost when they disappeared.
I can’t think of a single native culture that was worse than western european countries (though quite a few that are “on par”) and i’m thinking of quite a few dozen tribes.
@@Tijereño - What about any of their culture was good? They had no innovation (they hadn't even invented the wheel), no idea of rights (The idea of rights existed in the west, it was just not coined immediately), they had primal religions, they were constantly warring (Far more than even the Europeans, we just have more records), many didn't have any idea of property, they would go on raiding parties, kill innocent people, and take women and children as slaves (This did happen in European cultures, but was fading out by then), they didn't even respect nature, that's a myth.
So no, I wouldn't call them "on par" at all.
@ except that’s all a lie. Examples please? Lots of them. Go.
he has a colon in his name?! SICK
Speak "the language" does not mean English.
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Why don't you just say that you don't like the fact that Europeans took over North America. Is an undeniable fact that some cultures are superior to others. This can be seen throughout all of history. Your premise shouldn't be that people live in a colonist society
And that cultural genocide is wrong, your premise should be You're unhappy that your ancestors lost some of their cultural identity and it's not fair. the fact of the matter is that there are many cultures that are far superior to others. A great example would be that the Iroquois Confederacy was far superior to many other native American cultures. It was one of the many things we based the American form of government upon. Hiding your true resentment and irritation for what your ancestors
Lost is a little misleading. I confess I'm not familiar with your particular tribe's culture, but I'm 100% certain that there are counting societies that are far superior to other societies.
Pretty much all of what you said is absolute drivel, but the Iroquois comment proved to me that you just didn’t do your research.
First of all, the Haudenosaunee were a confederacy of five nations (six after 1722) five nations always fighting together will necessarily be stronger.
Second of all, their massive conquests during the Beaver Wars were because of guns they acquired from the Dutch. A culture does not become “superior” to another culture just by happening to be in a location where new weapons are available. This is not Pokemon.
The Haundenosaunee lived very similarly to their neighbors, all of whom were agricultural.
And genocide is genocide. There are plenty of instances of real “vanilla” genocides against indigenous peoples. Go look them up. When people say that forced loss of culture is part of genocide, they are not saying that loss of culture alone IS the genocide. But of course you’re already well aware, since i suspect you’re lying for attention.
This show is a red flag and full of bias
Listen Tai' Leclaire, you have a french-canadien family name, because one of your ancestors made a baby with a peaceful french-canadien...
The way you pronounce your ancestral name look woke like hell.
It sounds like pronoun people, where you have to explain to other the meaning of it.
Cut it clear.
Welcome to the true reality.
You're handsome and you're free to soar.
Happy to see you on the web anyway...
Thank you pbs for this bullshit
Yall mostly obviously did want to assimilate. Since it was that or removal… of course. This is how the game works buddy. You want to be absorbed into the dominant culture… you’re lucky you were privileged enough to be able to do so.
Hey, just had another shot, would you say cultures that thought it was okay for adult men to have sexual relations with pre-adolescent children as valuable as sellers who outlawed the practice? Would that be acceptable in your mind?
The f, what is wrong with you.
The man is talking about naming conventions and cultural genocide. Why fling That into the mix out of literally no were, Fix yourself.
WHOAH there Icarus, flying a little too close to making sense for the comment section of a video about "cultural genocide" suffered by a series of warring tribes who found out they weren't that good at war after all.
So you're saying ancient Greek culture, which considered sexual relations between adults and children to be an ideal relationship, is of lesser value and modern western culture is suspect for being influenced by the ancient Greeks and considering it the foundation of our modern society? 🤔
You mean the actual colonizers and white culture who did that too?
As opposed to today's white christian nationalists that want to make 14 year old girls marry grown adult men? I think there's a saying for this involving glass houses.
Quick question., where did you become so informed and educated on past historical tribal colonization events…I hope it wasn’t in a colonial educational institution, love what you’re wearing n your colonial English grammar is perfect , well trained vocal dynamics…
It wasn't because they refuse to teach any of this in a colonial education institute, we have to learn our own histories from our communities and doing our own research. We are forced to learn the colonized languages. Also, we still have better written grammar than you, who doesn't know how to use punctuation.
Cool story, I'm curious. Would you say that cultures that valued human sacrifice and infantside where every bit as valuable as colonizers who valued children, and didn't practice human sacrifice? I'm just curious as to what your thoughts are
Ask Israel they are experts on infanticide and colonizing
Yeah...the colonizers didn't really value the indigenous children. They were spreading their own culture and attaining the land for their Western Expansion. They abused and killed a LOT of the children they seized. Not just in the Americas but tribal people all over the world.
If anything it was a thin vineer of "care" to "remove the savage" from these children.
I'm quoting as several people in history were documented as having actually said the quiet part out loud....
So current white American culture where women's health and reproductive rights are being taken away and we allow guns to run rampant to sacrifice to the gun lobby. Same yeah?
Colonizers most definitely sacrificed other humans and their children in the name of money and land (their true god). In fact they were quite proficient at it and better at it than most. Millions died at their hand but you know who cares about facts when making hypocritical statements is so much more entertaining.
Bad faith comment, it may not be what you meant but it reads off that you think indigenous cultures as dirty and uncivilized compared to the "proper" West
Remember that the English ate mummies too and so many other more "civilized" countries eradicated cultures and destroyed countries
I feel frustrated for people who've been oppressed in the past or recently, in fact. My apologies for the bad behavior of my ancestral group, whoever they were. 🫤