Microsoft Flight Simulator | Instrument Flying | Real 737 Pilot Review
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2020
- Welcome back on board the upcoming Microsoft Flight Simulator!
Today we’re going to see how you can practice flying in IMC using ground-based navigation and Instrument Flight Rules in the Default Cessna Caravan.
We’ll be intercepting a radial to a VOR, flying a DME ARE and an ILS approach using conventional navigation in some inclement conditions!
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Thanks to all the eagle eyed viewers that spotted it wasn’t the localiser that was wonky but the aircraft's ability to accurately follow the localiser! Note how at 14:23 you can see LOC engage on the FMA shortly after selecting APP and making a turn to intercept the localiser, from then on in it didn’t do such a great job following it!
The issue seems to be with the aircraft automation not wanting to follow the localiser. Notice from 17:09 how LOC and GP are both engaged and how the Autopilot and Magenta Flight Director are locked onto it despite the guidance on the localiser deviation scale fully deflected to the right. I have since learnt It’s a known issue and will be fixed in a patch. Unfortunately I failed to notice whilst recording and editing (I was too busy trying to take external shots on the approach for you to enjoy!)
Cheers!
FD2S
Yeah it seems to be an autopilot issue! It's being fixed right now though (according to latest Feedback Snapshot)
it's happened with all the aircraft which suggests that it is easily fixed!
flightdeck2sim on the other hand a bit scary such a fundamental bug shows up so late in the testing.
The plane needs to be kept in NAV mode along with APP mode the entire time. HDG and APP will not be enough to remain aligned. NAV mode will keep the alignment (as long as NAV is selected in the autopilot vs GPS) and APP will keep the glide slope.
Oh really? Every aircraft I’ve ever flown where you use APP mode ensures both vertical (glide path) and lateral (localiser) are followed by the automation. At 14:23 you can see LOC engage (FMA LOC) after selecting APP and the aircraft turned to intercept the LOC and as the approach progresses the aircraft whilst still in LOC does not follow the localiser
FD2S
"Hey mom can we get localizer"
"No we have loaclizer at home"
The localizer at home:
Having played it back I’ve noticed it wasn’t so much the localiser that was wonky but the aircrafts ability to accurately follow the localiser! (At 24:23 you can see LOC engage after selecting APP but it didn’t do such a great job following it!)
Having tested it by flying it manually the glide path and localiser information seems to all work well, the issue seems to be with the aircrafts automation struggling to follow the course deviation and stay on the localiser. Regrettably I was too busy trying to take external shots on the approach for you to enjoy and failed to notice!
Cheers!
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Well it is still in beta so it should get fixed before it's released if not then shortly after
Damn Microsoft!!
@@xFirestormerX As I've said before....the game is to be released in just over a week...this is a pretty big issue to shrug off as "this is the closed beta". Something like this should be sorted by now. This is actually the third or fourth video I've watched this week where someone is having problems with autopilot
@@RiddyOnline but if they haven't implemented the fixes in the closed beta it's a moot point. they may well not roll out all patches and fixes to the beta and just save many of them for the final build.
As someone with no prior flight sim or real flight experience just about nothing in this video made sense to me but it made me more excited for MSFS2020. I hope one day I'll be able to do something like this, looks like a lot of fun!
I am a pilot and I am getting a PC soon for MSFS2020! I can tell you that it is super accurate and if you become proficient in it then learning to fly on real airplanes will be much easier!
I'm the same. I was watching this with no idea what was going on haha. I'm sure that once the game is live there'll be navigation tutorials from route mapping to flying ILS and use of AP...at least I hope there'll be tutorials.
@@arokh72 Haha, to my understanding they're going to have a basic tutorial on how to fly the plane. I hope they cover those topics in the tutorial (even if only briefly, if I can gain a basic understanding of it I'm sure I would at least know what to research to learn the rest). If they don't, then I'm sure I'll be able to find help on Discord or Reddit or something.
Check out my last MSFS video where we complete the last flight tutorial from the sim.
It does only cover the basics but I’ll be creating lots of educational content so you can fly your simulator as realistically as possible! 😊
FD2S
@@flightdeck2sim Awesome! I'll be sure to check out that video and I'll be keeping an eye out for your future videos!
I said it years ago and I'll say it again... best flight sim tutorials on UA-cam!
Thanks so much Karl! Always try where possible to include some educational aspect! I hope you’re doing well 👍🏼
Its is amazing how the the synthetic vision in a world class brand new flight sim looks similar to how an old flight sim may have looked in it's entirety. Absolutely incredible.
It's simulations all the way down...
Amazing video!!! Can I just say I love the fact that you put your a real life pilot in your title! Keep making amazing content and stay safe!
Weirdly I've found this one of the most interesting of all the FS2020 videos so far.....beats Squirrel's "oo my rig, oooo my sponsored fps god rig". Thank you and I want to learn more.
Superb videos as always, altough I missed the edited parts, It is great having the whole flight with you. Btw, cant believe the QNH was 1013 all the way even with so much rain!
I gotta say, I loved the hard core focus on IMC/IFR flying. Most of the videos I've seen thus far have concentrated on VFR flying.
I don't understand a lot of things that you are doing, that's why I love watching your videos and constantly learning. Very nice flight, looking forward to more!
Thank you Dyno! Take care!
FD2S
Another great video from you. Very glad I stumbled upon your channel and thoroughly looking forward to your future content covering this new exciting game. From one airline pilot to another, thanks for everything you’re doing for the community spreading some great knowledge and expertise. Cheers!
Just subscribed, can’t wait for more. I think this upcoming sim is bringing the community together more than ever!!!
love the camera placement, makes it feel like you place cameras at different points on the airframe.
My goodness now this is the kind of simulation I'm looking for. Thanks for showcasing the potential (and improvement areas) of the new sim!
Thank you for this nice video! I like the routined way you handle things and it is very interesting to see a professional using a sim. The 10%-Rule was very helpful indeed. Keep up the splendid work! Cheers from Germany!
This channel is precisely what I need. I want to learn how to mix charts, aircraft controls, and the flight sim together just the way you did in this video. My understanding is that not everything is implemented in FS 2020, but hopefully that changes.
I'm looking for some tips on where and how to get familiarized with an approach or departure before attempting it and how to use that with FS 2020 and/or load it into the glass cockpit (if that works full or in part).
Thanks for this... really learned a ton just watching you breakdown the approach and execute it.
This is the first video of yours I've seen, I'll definitely be back for more!
Great video! I love how you showcased how to operate the autopilot - when to turn on HDG and NAV modes, it was one thing I wasn't sure of how to operate when doing instrument flying. Seems like the devs will still have to work on the issue with the aircraft not following the localiser. Btw. good aircraft choice - I really like the Cessna Caravan!
Thanks as always. Great way to show the new Sim with an excellent tutorial!!
Regardless of the localizer being off (or rather the plane not managing it well, which multiple content creators are having issues with) that was a great flight and good to see conventional instrument flying is entirely possible on release day!
Great video :D
Thanks a million Dan!
Mariana flightdeck2sim 👀
As always superb video! Very happy to see them after this pause! 🤓☺️
This sim looks so great! I can't wait, it looks revolutionary!
yep... In addition we have to have a revolutionary salary to buy a revolutionary PC to run this marvel.
Incredible video! Thank you very much! Please do more of this in-depth "old-school" IFR navigation videos. For a PPL student they are really useful.
one of the best videos, since the press release is available. keep up the good work!
Thank you!
FD2S
It's been a while since I've seen that intro, nice!
Nice cam views. Pretty cool seeing raindrops actually hitting and splashing on the ground.
Holy cow! I cant wait to tune in and watch this!
Too many VFR vids out there! Thank you for this video. I love “legacy nav” i.e. non-gps like vor/dme, ils and ndb. Must be my flightsim 98 memories. That was the last flightsim i did. Cant wait for FS2020. Great to see legacy nav still in the mix. Not looking forward to buying a rig. Thanks again
Hey man, sweet video. Some quick GFC700 tips, FLC is the equivalent of IAS hold for your climb and push the heading bug to match heading
Awesome as usual.
After having watched probably 30-40 hrs of various flight sim/aviation videos in the past couple of weeks, it’s really made me want to become a pilot, legitimately. I hope to begin flight school by end of 2021, assuming my savings strategy works and no huge life events pop up. Subscribed! Thanks for the vids and inspiration
Same for me. Started flying X-plane two years ago, took a demo flight last summer and have a few lessons (9hrs) until the COVID and will resume when I can. Do it! So much of this simming translates. Do it !
please do post your flying videos and good luck with flight school. Same dream here so wish me luck
What's most amazing thing in this video to me? In almost every racing/flying/driving game, anything that has wheels on the ground (at least at some point) they almost never look like the tire is actually sitting on the ground supporting weight. There's either space between the wheel and ground or the bottom of the tire is below ground level. This, in contrast, actually looks like the tires are on the ground. Granted, it would be even better if there was water spray or at least some effect of the tire on the water, but I'm really pleased just to see what we have here!
Really nice cockpit on that Grand Caravan. No distorted side pillar to spoil the view.
Very nice review! I Loved you did it on the Canary Islands. Greetings!
Thank you!! 😊
FD2S
I am from Tenerife, the island looks great in the alpha, specially the Southern part of it
Grande hugo
They've done a fantastic job replicating most the planet!
Just the video I was looking for. With everybody doing the scenic VFR flights, I was wondering how this sim handles IFR.
The autopilot looks to be one of the more critical things to fix upon release. From the up-down oscilation to the APR holding.
Thanks a million!
Since releasing I learnt there’s a known issue with the autopilot unable to maintains the Localiser (I failed to notice the deviation whilst recording the tutorial!) I pinned a comment for reference!
Cheers!
FD2S
Awesome video - very informative. First one I have found that really talks us all the way through some good turns, approach concepts, and joining the localizer. Have now recreated / flown this route a few times successfully thanks to you. Great stuff.
Follow-up question: I *think* those are Jeppson charts you are using? They seem very clean yet full of great info. Looking for charts like this on airnav, flightsim, skyvector, etc and not finding anything as good.
Conceptual question - the "approach" from 128° radial to TFS VOR over BAMEL, then the 10 mi arc to the localizer. I think you called (and showed) it KONBA 4G (I see that in the trip kit PDF along with KONBA 4H from the other direction). What is that concept of that route vs other routes on the way into an airport? I want to figure out how to find the same "routes" into other airports, for example KLAX. What would I search for? Approach procedures? Something else?
Thanks again. Subscribed and anxiously awaiting future videos.
Great IFR flight, can´t wait to get my FS2020 license, I really enjoy flying IFR in Colombia.
Thank you Javier! It’s certainly looking great for instrument flying!
FD2S
Really looking forward to this
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for the video. It would be great if you make another video explaining step by step how to use the VOR/ DME / etc. stuff for those of us who wish to learn more. Great video!
I'm planning on making some tutorials using the new sim, all existing tutorials were completed in either the PMDG or ZIBO 737
FD2S
Always found your flight sim videos enjoyable, professional and very informative. Great voice that even someone with poor English can understand (but speaking a little slower would help). You really helped me and many of my international friends around the world to fly the 737 zibo in x-plane. Now with FS2020 and its amazing graphics your videos will certainly always also be a true pleasure to watch. Thanks from me, and from my many flight simmers friends who want to switch to FS2020 for showing that this sim is not 'just a game' (as some blind x-plane fanboys claim) but a real flight simulator (with amazing graphics out-of-the-box) Showing that more often might even put a stop to the toxic, racist and sexist behaviour shown to foreigners by the devs who run the sim forum at x-plane.org since the announcement of this flight sim. Please make many more and concentrate on FS2020, your audience will then not only be potentially 1000+ times larger but also give you the opportunity of reaching viewers around the world. Perhaps you could work together with other content creator to have sub-title in different languages. Lastly, what about a video showing the caching of the downloaded graphics data. Can it be saved? e.g. for the same flight again on a later day?
Thank you for this video , i very much enjoyed.i saw this twice 😉.
Awesome video man! Can you please do video for complete beginners where you explain basic stuff that are not in tutorial, preferably on this plane or some other single engine aircraft that will be great
Agree - would love an IFR for absolute dummies video!
Nice review. Very much looking forward to the release in the next weeks. I guess it will most likely take some time for fs2020 to be fully operational with the commercial jet flight systems.
Thank you Christer.
I’ve tried the default Airbus and 747 and they’re fine for default but just a bit of fun! We’ll need to wait for someone like ZIBO or a good payware plane maker to come along 😊
FD2S
Very Nice! How do you bring those NAV maps into the video? Is it part of MSFS 2020? Thank you.
The last weeks I practiced again with the old FSX to be prepared for the upcoming FS2020. After I mastered the good old Cessna 172 well enough again, I switched to the Cessna Caravan and was somehow disappointed, because the machine behaved very weird. I somehow had the feeling that it was modelled incompletely and very half-heartedly (in the FSX!). This video makes me looking forward to try this baby again in the 2020 version.
Looks perfect! Thanks for teaching me this!
hello wide putin
hello Cig Bhungus
I have no interest in Aviation until now (I actually work for Microsoft), but out of all the FS2020 videos I’ve been watching I loved this one the most. Very educational and interesting, I love the technical instrument flying.
Could you land on a carrier in pea soup? ;)
Can’t wait for this sim! Thank you.
Have you had any issues with loading and activating approaches? I've been getting a hard crash every time and I'm not sure if its just on my end.
What computer and joystick do you use? Unfortunately I am one of the recently redundant pilots and whilst I wait for the industry to pick up and recruitment to start again this could help keep my eye in.
Nicely done. The airplane also has a yaw damper, next to the AP switch, though the adverse yaw doesn't seem especially well-modeled yet, in any case.
Accidentally press the recommendation video from UA-cam about tutorial flight sim, and i just watch 1 video to subscribe this channel, my english is bad, but i don't know this video is incredible to explain a whole part of a airplane, very good video sir, i very like it..
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Great review!
in the initial back track shots is it just the audio settings or is there no sound at all of the prop? I thought it would have been quite prominent.
brilliant thank you, subbed!
As someone planning to play FS2020 but haven't played a FS in a long time. I think my head just exploded
Interesting and great video. I noticed the rain drops falling through the aircraft when taxiing. Not a major bug but its there.
I usually do the localizer capture by hand then let the autopilot maintain it, just because in my experience sim autopilots always struggle with that bit. Too many experiences with doing ILS approaches well below minimums (it's a sim, who cares) and having the autopilot put me down on a taxiway or neighboring highway lol. At least now that synthetic vision is included in vanilla it'll be really easy to tell when something's gone wrong.
Nice video - thanks a lot for sharing. Though that was the first time i´ve seen TFS in rain and heavy cloud conditions(in more than 15years). The south of the island is for 99,99% of the time dry and sunny - it´s the northern part where overcast conditions are common.
Would love to see another flight in that area with more realistic weather conditions :)
Thank you Thomas! Haha yes, I cannot say I've ever soon conditions like this when I've been to TFS, just a nice sector to demonstrate some instrument flying. Will be doing plenty of live of wx flying soon!
FD2S
Great video. Where do you get those airport charts? Is that part of the new FS or are they from a third party app?
Navigraph Charts. It is a monthly subscription service though
Is this the live weather ? Also, I know orographic flow is modeled, but are things like lenticulars, wave, thermals modeled?
I enjoyed the flight very much, very fluid, very smooth, what CPU and Graphic Card are you using?
How wonderful to see how it's supposed to be done. As opposed to how I've done it. :) I had to land in Oslo in complete fog and I had to do sightseeing around the airport for an hour until I managed to land manually...
excuse me for my ignorance, Captain, but do you have ILS tutorials vidoes with plane pre-glass cockpit era, I mean, ILS with conventional plane gauges and not the modern glass cockpits like we see today? Thank you very much
Where do you get those runway specs? The photos that show the traffic patters, approach altitude, etc
Do you know if there is, or is going to be, a guide in the sim explaining all the "what's", "how's" and "why's" of the planes and extra stuff in the sim, e.g. what an ILS is or why you need to use flaps etc, or will I just have to Google it all? I remember there being a text guide in-game in the old MSFX sim but never got the time to learn it all, and I'm wishing for something similar in this sim :)
I’ve seen a few of these where you’re getting out flight plan/approach maps etc. But the game doesn’t have these. How do you know how to dial in ILS/VOC etc just from what the game gives you?
Lovely video as usual :) Just to make sure, did you mean that it was the localizer that was off center, or the automation onboard (ap) that had trouble staying on localizer? To me it looked like the localizer signal was spot on, and it was, in fact, centered up when you came over the threshold after making that correcting turn. The localizer needle was correctly showing a deflection off center because the ap wasn't following it.
thats what I thought too....
Exactly my thought. The localizer seemed to be spot on, but the AP was doing something else
You’re absolutely right! Looks like the indications were in fact spot on as opposed to the localiser scale being bent. (I was too busy trying to take external shots to notice!). The A/P was definitely engaged in APP mode so the issue lies with the aircraft and not the ILS LOC 👍🏼
FD2S
I think this is a great example of what the greater public doesn't get with regard to the idea of an aircraft "autopilot", or any level of aircraft automation- it doesn't always do what it's supposed to to. That's when pilots earn their paycheck.Automation complacency is a lesson a few Tesla drivers have learned the hard way... Keep that scan rate up!
My question here, is this a bug, a characteristic of the aircraft, or an intentional avionics bug with a random trigger in the game...
I still use MsFSX Steam edition, has all the weather you can eat, with the right hardware pretty good graphics. One of my favourite routes is U28901 LGW/GIB, then going missed and onto AGP the scenic route, ( a lap of the Istan reservoir in Marbella) climbing out and onto the north of AGP and sometimes ILS sometimes handfly into land. GIB is a real challenge when using realtime weather.
Are the charts that you superimposed part of the sim or your Navigraph charts FD2S?
Brother, a flight from Chandigarh (IXC) to Kullu-Manali (KUU), India would be PERFECT. KUU lies in the himalayan valleys while IXC lies in the plains. It's a 1 hr flight and would beautifully showcase the change in weather and terrain. Please make this flight a reality i am dying to see this! Thank you for the great work!
Were you pulling up charts/plates and minimums info in the sim or was that overlaid onto the video in editing? Would be great if it was all in sim, especially with VR coming.
@@WhiteHawk77 Yes, thank you. Hopefully they’re available in sim at some point or someone quickly comes up with a mod.
How the flight dynamics feels?
From what I’ve seen so far it looks sensitive as hell, like most general aviation aircrafts in XP11
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Finally, someone with the same set up as me😍 But I have the 1080ti and 3200mhz ram. I will be running at 2560x1440, thinking I'll need to scale down resolution just a bit to get 60+fames. My monitor is 48-144hz using gsync. What do you think? I've been kind of obsessed with how this will run on my system. Great video btw, got a new sub here for sure.
Would have liked to see the flight done in the PMDG 737? Avionics may have worked then? Seemingly lots of bugs to squash?
great video! if I'm not wrong, I think the props are supposed to be feathered during engine start and shutdown. I think its probably a modelling issue.
Maybe I'm crazy, but the localizer looked OK, but it almost seemed like the autopilot wasn't following it. The visualization for the localizer had you off course (which is accurate) 🤔
Edit: nevermind. I see the pinned comment now
Why does the propeller look to be tilted downwards like a desk fan on certain side view shots? A bit weird!
Does FS2020 include full checklists for all of the aircraft? What about all of the aeronautical charts?
Whoa. Are the chart insets built into the sim or is that your editing ?
I was told by someone within the beta team that the AIRAC currently in use by the sim is not up to date. Is that true? I thought the airacs would be current in MSFS2020.
You sound very posh in one of the first broadcasts from the new FD2S HQ! 😀
Cap there is FLC (flight level change) on the right over there, now instead of throttle it will use pitch to keep speed so you still have to manage throttle but it does help especially in the climb so you don’t stall
Are you saying "Gamora" instead of "Gomera" each time because Zoe Saldana is sitting behind you in a passenger seat? 😁
Great video like always!
The physics are a bit weird I guess when the raindrops crawl up the windscreen while you're standing still... Or was there wind applied from the front?
Definitely sounds like a real PT6
any chance you could do an IFR flight with ATC and get clearance etc ?
Excellent video! Nice to see some demonstration of aviation and not just eye candy... but I have to say there were moments I couldn’t tell I was looking at a sim.
Break break: Can you change the view to the copilot or passenger seat?
Thank you Chris! It certainly looks like the core sim will come with everything you need to practice flying under IFR using conventional navigation!
There isn’t a saved copilot seat position but you are able to move the camera in the cockpit freely and I believe you can assign views too.
FD2S
I see he has the LIDO charts, do you know how to access them ? (Navicharts stoped it and switched back to Jeppessen)
Does it give you the option to turn off synthetic vision?
Awsome video. Why aren't there any runway lights on in such low visibility condition.
Could you do a flight around the islands of Majorca? I'd appreciate it, greetings!
My recollection of the DME arc is that it was often practiced but seldom done in anger, and then usually on an instrument proficiency check. In real weather, at least in the U.S., the controller would usually be merciful and just give us vectors to final.
Yes. Ask any US line pilot to fly a DME arc and they will gladly do it...by setting it up in the FMS and flicking on LNAV. By hand, forget it.
@@TM-hl9kz When doing it by hand, the goal was to get a path that was slightly better than a drunk staggering around a lamp post.
You should check out Samos, in the new sim. The approach is super fun :D
yeah, the loc needle was very off, well before getting close to the ground...
Can you do an educational style video explaining all the intercepts and stuff for a newbie? Really interesting stuff but its way over my head
I might have done a go around when I came in that far to the left of the runway but other than that, thanks so much for the video! I've always struggled with instrument nav in these smaller aircraft so this was incredibly helpful and informative :)
Shouldn’t the prop on the Caravan feather once the engine stops? Looks full fine at the end of the vid 🤔
thanks for this share. When establish final, you look like to much on the left when we check your VOR indicator. The autopilot look like follow the glide but not the good line? thanks gain sorry for my butcher english.
Hi Ju Speed! Your English was excellent! Yes I have since discovered there is a known issue with aircraft in MSFS not following the localiser. Take a look at the pinned comment at the top!
Have a great day!
FD2S