I have comment that is decent that I will put on my blog because it is too long to post here. I sent the same comment to another section 230 nonprofit a year ago. My comment will be regarding section 230 and the regulation of active physical and exigent danger to humans, animals and the environment. I don’t have a comment on the conundrum of free speech. That is a tough nut to crack. This is a good video coverage of the topic. Thank you.
Here's my thinking. If your gonna label your internet forums town Squares for free speach i.e. Twitter. And in the beginning your rules and mission statement are in line with free speech.. and after I have invested years of time in my profile based on the rules and mission statement.. you decide to do a 180 and band free speech because you disagree with it . Then are you not breaking the original contract 🤔.. and can't I sue for my time spent building my profile based on the fact I joined because it was a free speach forum .that no longer cares about free speech. So now I must now find a free speech forum a town Square.. and invest years building a new profile,new friends, new discussions..
PS to my prior comment. The only thing I would ask you to consider doing is to reduce the volume of your background music on this video. The reason I say this is because it is presenting the video feel in a way that is slanting the message you’re trying to get across. My point, the volume and musical melody is a bit too dramatic and over the top and it makes me take the video less seriously and is if you’re trying to influence me a little bit too much with the dramatic music. As well, because your music is too loud it’s actually competing with your message. If that makes any sense. And the volume speaks volumes. It’s overbearing. I’m sure you can go in and find a way to edit that video and reduce the volume to a nice subliminal background level. I think you’ll get a lot more viewers taking this well done video more seriously. I certainly would.
Apple and Google App stores control what Apps can be downloaded on over 99% of smartphones. Acting in unison with Amazon who hosted the content they took out Parler a rival to Twitter. Section 230 could be updated to allow such biased actions to be reversed and large fines when they are reversed.
Free speech right is one of the most important part of keeping our State system's health feel well. We should prevent it from any regulation, no matter who it comes from.
I heard an idea.... Split the moderation form the distribution. Allow each user to select their own 3rd party app to do their filtering. All viewpoints are then allowed to act as common carrier and can have their 230 protection, but can legitimately refrain from filtering. I will get my own filter so I don't have to see "fake news" but I allow your 1st amendment freedom to see anything you want. Unintended consequence of the above is the actually illegal content issue. The common carrier I would use as a model is the telephone. I can call my brother and have a political discussion and no one thinks of it being moderated. One could also discuss the commission of a crime on the phone. The FBI (and other G-men) could listen in (wire tap) but only with a court order. That would allow laws to restrict illegal speech, their enforcement, but give me back my 1st amendment freedom to hear the speech I want.
Terrible analogy. It isn't illegal to talk about a crime you committed. You get arrested for the crime you did. The tapped phone call is just evidence to help convict you.
The government forcing Social Media to host content they disagree with is a violation of their 1st ammendment rights. Period. Anyone who says otherwise has utter contempt for the US Constitution.
@Brandon West Corporations are considered "persons" under US law. Hence corporations have 1a free speech rights like an individual does. Censoring content on their own platform is them exercising their free speech right. Your logic seems flawed.
@Moo Tube Controversial or not, it's been that way for over 100 years now. Don't like it? Take it up with the supreme court. Supreme court has ruled that a corporation is essentially the interest of a group of people and therefore extended similar rights that people have. Cry about it all you want but that's how it works in US courts. Hence why corporations can be sued for damages like a person. Or sued for defamation etc. Facts don't care about your feelings.
@Moo Tube Why would I oppose a system that works? Lmao. You sound like you hate it and wont change it. You remind me of those wives who get beaten by their husband but stay and keep telling yourself you can change him. Living in a fantasy world, princess.
This is a shortened/the shortest version I could put together about section 230/companies first amendment rights/company policy/user agreements/TOS, it doesn't have A LOT of info behind these thoughts, BUT IF you understand ENOUGH, you can understand MOST, IF NOT ALL, of this. I think the even crazier thing is/funny/ironic thing is/ A LOT of people seem to want to punish these companies/honestly at this point, there is no logic, behind what people are TRYING to do, IF you remove section 230, you will force companies to moderate EVERYTHING vs just what they are moderating now/IF you violate a companies 1st amendment right, to run thier OWN business, how they want, your not solving anything, IF you try to use the Monopoly card, that doesn't make sense either, because to much business/opportunity is in the market, for EVERYONE, for that to make sense/Apps/Websites/Servers/online shopping/messaging/sending pictures/videos,buying things online, online stores/browsers/ads, are available from thousands, if not more companies/big tech doesn't have ANYTHING, another company doesn't already have/their not doing ANYTHING, other companies aren't ALREADY doing. What are you fighting for? Freedom of speech doesn't apply in private business/on private property/IF you go in Walmart yelling and screaming, you will be escorted out/kicked out/MAYBE banned from the store. If these companies are considered editors/publishers, then you will be censored EVEN MORE. Then even after section 230 gets removed, these companies have TOS/User Agreements/Company Policy/Contracts and so on, to fall back on. These companies can ALSO claim that the censorship, is a direct reflection, of their customers/the companies/people paying for ADs, don't want certain content, around their ADs. ALSO I think a company has a right to disassociate its self with certain things/certain companies, MAY not want to be affiliated with certain things. Meaning SOMEONE could post something crazy like, mouth wash will cure the pandemic, as a company/business, you might not want to be affiliated with that/you MAY not want your customers to think of you, when this is talked about/you may ALSO feel morally responsible, IF thats on your website/server, ALSO these companies/Employees/CEOs, aren't doctors, so they don't want certain drug information about curing something, on their website/it MAY be a political free website/it may be certain hateful attitudes, they MAY not want to be affiliated with, point being is, a company should be able to form, what ever community they want, good or bad/thats the vision the creators, of the website, had/have, IF someone wants to create something else, they can do that and they can make it, whatever they want it to be, as well. What's the point/what's the end game? The ONLY other thing I see here is, its a game/a charade/a show/political/talk/ basically its congress/the government/other political people just talking, to make it sound like their doing something, even though they don't understand what their trying to achieve/do, other than make their voters, THINK they care/for them to TRY and get re-elected, I mean beyond this, I can't see a purpose, for ANY of this. ALSO honestly I don't think the government NEEDS OR SHOULD be involved in any of this/I think the market will figure its self out/IF someone doesn't like a certain business,because they were censored/because they don't like a business's business practice, then, people/consumers/users have the option to not use that service/not use that business AND IF ENOUGH people feel this way, then the business will adapt/change OR no longer exist, in this BIG market/the internet, people have a LOT of options, so basically, let the customers/users/economy/market sort it out. We ALREADY have government regulated constitutional laws/the FTC/FCC/DOJ and other regulatory organizations, handle the things that need to be handled, EVERYTHING, is ALREADY in place, the way it NEEDS to be. We don't want to get to a point where the government ONLY allows us, to see certain things/the government doesn't need to control these things/we don't need to turn into china/have to have a VPN, to get news/information. These two companies MAY be REAL monopolies TSMC and ASML, Samsung MAY be combating this SOON/Samsung is opening/building a chip manufacturing facility, in the US, other REAL monopolies, utility companies, water,electric,gas,internet,trash companies, SOME areas MAY only have one option, for these services, that is what a TRUE monopoly is,being big, alone, doesn't make you a monopoly.
When it comes to whistle blowers, Honestly none of this matters, UNLESS the company is breaking the law/allowing things that are illegal, on their site, that falls on them and isn't protected under, user agreements/TOS/Company Policy/Contracts/the first amendment OR section 230. The definition of hate speech/things that need to be censored, is up to/defined by the individual company/property owner. The main thing is, the first amendment protects companies AND individuals, from the government, meaning the government can't regulate speech, to an extent, BUT theres a thing called, disturbing the peace, BUT companies can/home owners can/speech can be regulated on/over private property, that could be a house/property/ Walmart/item,that could be a privately owned server,website or APP, ALSO each business/property owner has the right to make their own rules on their own property OR over their own property. Its not Jack Dorsey/Bill Gates/Ben Silbermann/Bernard Bergemar/Craig Newmark/Zhang Yiming/Sundat Pichai/Tim Cook/Mark Zuckerberg, responsibility to monitor your kids internet usage, thats the PARENTS responsibility/job,ALSO a website/company has a right to have what ever algorithms, community guidelines/user agreements/company policies, that they want, on their own site/property. We ALREADY have ratings on content/age restrictions/regulations/the FTC/FCC/DOJ/other regulatory organizations and laws are ALREADY in place. Another reason this doesn't matter, is, think about this, if Facebook was to TRY and stop, certain age/kids, from accessing FB, what's stopping your kids from looking at other content on the internet,such as pornography/communicating with child molesters/other people/content, parents should be monitoring/have other systems/router security, in place, to prevent, certain devices/users, from going to certain sites/searching certain words/phrases/be a PARENT/take responsibility of your children. Examples of why section 230's principles work, and why EVERYONE should be responsible, for their OWN ACTIONS/WORDS,MAYBE the ONLY EXCEPTION to that, is IF the person CAN PROVE, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT, that they were COERCED,a few examples of why section 230's principles work: Its a tool,IF you miss use the tool, thats not the manufacturers fault/IF you use the tool to murder someone, thats not the manufacturers fault. A car company could sell a car, to someone and that person could use that car for sex trafficking, thats not what the car company built/manufactured/sold the car for/thats not what facebook/thats not why other websites/companies were made, BUT thats what it was used for. This should DEFINITELY fall on the sex traffickers, NOT a platform/car manufacturer. The car company AND the platform/website profited, from this, with car sales and the platform, through ad revenue,BUT thats not what the car/platform/website was built for. This responsibility either falls on the parents or the adult/of age person, to prevent things like this from happening, and OBVIOUSLY, the crime falls on the sex traffickers and DEFINITELY NOT THE PLATFORM, LOL, can you imagine car companies having to take responsibility for drug dealers, delivering drugs or car companies having to take responsibility for reckless drivers, that would be crazy. The ONLY exception in/to this, is if a law is in place, ALREADY/by/through the FTC/FCC/DOJ or other regulatory organizations and these laws NEED to continue to not violate anyone's constitutional rights/they can't violate companies 1st amendment rights OR certain laws shouldn't ONLY apply to a handful of companies, because someone doesn't like a certain company,we ALREADY have Monopoly laws and company policy, is something every company in the US can implement,legally. These companies can also do what ever research they want on their business/websites/servers/its not against the law to do SEO work/ look at data/algorithms/analytics, to determine what the best courses of action are/is, to make your/their business/businesses thrive and become/continue to be/remain successful. ALSO these company's, research/algorithms/data research, CAN come back with MULTIPLE DIFFERENT outcomes/answers, depending on the algorithm/data its fed/if one things left out, of the equation, the answer/outcome CAN/COULD be wrong/totally different, ALSO, because analyst know this, MULTIPLE studies are made/a LOT of data is examined, with varying answers/outcomes,so one study alone can't always give you the right answer/one study alone doesn't mean much. Whistleblowers arent completely protected; Whistleblowers are required to present information and other documents that can back up their claims when filing a dispute. If it is found that they are lying, they may be subjected to criminal charges. ... Whistleblower Protection does not always protect federal workers. A whistleblower does not have unfettered permission to take documents. “Nothing in this subdivision shall be interpreted to prevent any law enforcement authority from bringing a civil or criminal action against any person for violating any provision of law. Going public, isn't always the best option either: Whistleblowing legislation is designed to protect people who blow the whistle in the right way, and for the right reasons. If you reveal your concerns via social media or by going to the press, you may not be entitled to receive the legal protection you'll need. This may also mark you as a risk/problematic employee/prevent you from getting another job in the future. NDAs forfeit whistleblowing eligibility and this is DEFINITELY something you need for certain things, for proprietary things, like inventions/recipes/algorithms/projects/hardware and so on. So whistleblowers do have their limitations and as you can see, they can also be limited/stopped all together, SOMETIMES, whistleblowers are good, but in this case its just a publicity stunt.
This is how these companies protect their selfs, in the future, without section 230 AND this is how these companies do what they do now, with your data/you give them permission to/you agree to it. These companies have to moderate, because these companies NEED to make money/be SOMEWHAT family friendly, for their customers/companies/people paying for ads. So their ONLY choice, in general, BUT DEFINITELY without section 230, is to moderate EVERYTHING, well everything that violates Terms Of Services/User Agreements/Company Policy. Also The User Agreement,TOS and Company policy was created to protect that specific company/that individual company, meaning that company can make what ever decisions they want, about their own company/private property/servers. Another example, if I have guest over at my house and I set rules for them, they have to follow those rules, but I don't, I could also choose to enforce those rules, how ever I want to, meaning, if I have a close friend, I can tell them, they don't have to worrie about that, or I can say, if you pay this much, those rules don't apply to you, or I could have a separate contract with an individual company, where they get another version of TOS. Heres some more examples of how section 230 doesn't matter as much, as people think it does, well it does, if you don't want to be censored, but if censor ship doesn't bother you, repealing section 230, won't effect you. If section 230 is removed, user Agreements/Terms Of Service and company policy will protect these companies, the ones, we ALL agree to, when we access/use these companies websites/apps. Also these companies can claim they are not biased, the censorship is a direct reflection of their customers/the people buying ads, don't want certain content around their ads. Also EVERYTHING will be moderated/censored, EVEN MORE, IF section 230 gets removed. You can't go to Walmart yelling and screaming profanity, without getting thrown out and MAYBE even banned from the store, because of company policy, no shirt no shoes, no service; no mask, you can't enter the building. Also as another example have you ever read what you sign when you go to the Dentist? Some of what that says, basically says, if we break your jaw/deform you, we are not responsible and you can't sue the company or employee. Also to go a little further with that, Amazon, to protect them selfs, from law suits/reviews on their websites that are bad, companies would have to have an agreement, with these companies, meaning, if you want your product at Walmart/Amazon, you will need to agree to this, then that product would be approved, meaning that company can no longer sue Amazon/Walmart, for a bad review, a buyer/user leaves. This would protect the company from what the user says and does AND this would protect the companies selling other companies products as well. This could also go further, with website agreements too, meaning your ISP/Internet Service Provider, would ALSO be responsible for what you say and do, on the internet, so, certain sites would be on an approved list, based on their user agreements/you would have access to some websites, that are approved and some websites, you can't access. So MORE censorship.
This was originally written, to show companies, that work with other companies, why they can't violate contracts/TOS/Terms Of Service, when using other companies services,this also shows how companies can still accomplish what they want and need to, they just have to use their own servers/websites/browsers/stores and so on,so their not bound by contracts and TOS,but this also shows where this is going,IF things become unconstitutional,when it comes to the government, were not here YET, at least with the unconstitutional issues, YET,but this is the final steps, IF THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN: This is MAINLY about Parler,BUT parts of this, COULD ALSO apply to other companies,IF the government violates companies 1st amendment rights/if regulation starts becoming unconstitutional,other companies MAY have to ALSO use these tactics, BUT Parler still have/has plenty of options, a long with A LOT of other companies, BUT companies that are doing business, with these companies, ALSO have to follow these companies TOS/Terms Of Service,User Agreements,Company Policies and contracts. Meaning, IF you have controversial ideas, MAYBE, you should have your OWN servers/not pay another company for cloud servers, binding you to ANOTHER agreement/TOS/Contract, if you want something like this, you need your OWN, physical servers/Website, APP and browser, IF Duck duck go/Opera, doesn't work for you. Also either a store or just allow your APK, to be downloaded, from your website. ALSO, IF you have an idea/platform/APP, that has no censorship/moderation/that violates A LOT of companies TOS/Terms Of Service/User Agreements/Company Policy and so on, MAYBE OPEN SOURCE/FREE SOFTWARE/ALSO Linux/different distros, WOULD be a good option, IF thats where your business NEEDS to be, BECAUSE, it violates MOST companies, Terms Of Service/Company Policy/User Agreements and so on. Richard Stallman liked/likes free software, free as in, you are allowed to modify the code, not free as in price, that MAY be something you MIGHT want to look into as well,I'm not saying I'm COMPLETELY on board with him as a person,BUT it is an option. Also Parler CAN still have their APP, on the Play Store/Apple Store and their servers, BUT they need to moderate better/change WHAT EVER, it is thats violating TOS/ Terms Of Service. Another example, when SOME UA-cam channels don't fit/conform to UA-cam properly, A LOT of creators turn to patreon and MAYBE sponsors. Anyway OTHER OPTIONS are out there. You can't violate these companies TOS/Terms Of Service,User Agreement or company policies. You can do what ever you want on your own website/servers, BUT I suggest, the company should ALSO be careful with that too, also your APP can TECHNICALLY be side loaded, to devices, IF Android/Google or Apple doesn't notice, because its their OS/Operating System, BUT technically you should be good, just have instructions on your site, how to become a developer/tap build number 7 times and enable your device to side load the APP or allow the APK to be downloaded/installed, from your website. If Parlers not figuring out simple things, like TOS/they didn't realize this, they DEFINITELY don't realize whats going to happen NEXT. They will NEED to keep their servers out of the US/ at the least VPNs/re-routing traffic, will help, for their CURRENT problems OR have your OWN servers, in the right area. Meaning Parler has to also follow laws, so the government doesn't shut them down, or at the least keep their servers out of the US/register their business somewhere else. ALSO doing things this controversial, I would DEFINITELY code in a language that can EASILY be scaled/moved/MAYBE Java/Python, along with the NORMAL stuff, HTML,CSS,PHP,Java Script, MAYBE also C, IF needed AND so on, anyway it needs to be a company/code that can really adapt, to any situation, QUICKLY. Also Parler needs a serious look at security as well, their platform is TERRIBLE, when it comes to security. Anyone debating about using Parler, I would advise them not to, because of their security issues. Hopefully this helps them/points out OTHER problems though, meaning, once they get their own servers, IF their in the wrong areas/IF their not using VPNs and so on, they will STILL be having issues/the government could shut them down, IF they don't think first,ALSO, IF the government continues this/some things from the government, is normal,BUT these un justify able targeted attacks, against big tech, NEED to stop OR other companies MAY NEED to do these things as well/get out of the US,including Google, the government aren't supposed to do things like this/what's been going on recently/I have a feeling, its going to turn into something thats COMPLETELY unconstitutional.
A lot of people seem to think these companies are monopolies, I'm not seeing it. To start with, we CAN'T bail companies out that don't understand the market/that aren't understanding the times/moving with the times/adapting/making good business decisions, companies like Sears,Kmart,ToysRUs,Blockbusters and so on, companies that are already dead/that are going to inevitably die anyway. The Last Blockbuster, MAY become a museum and survive/have an admission fee, BUT traditional brick and mortar won't survive. Companies that think brick and mortar is forever/newspapers that still use actual paper, just to give a few examples, IF a company is obsolete, we can't punish the companies that actually understand the market/the main things are, low price, convenience and remember we live in a digital world. A LOT of people claim these companies are monopolies. How do you think they are Monopolies? What makes them monopolies? Infact I would argue A LOT of them rely on each other, to be as successful, as they are and they are competing with one another too and they have other competition too. Meaning Google/Apple/Amazon/Microsoft, supply the store, for download/to get the APP, but also other stores exist, such as F-droid,Opera store,Linux stores, such as the Ubuntu Software store, the Snap store,FlatPak,repositories, also playstation and many others, that I'm sure I'm failing to mention. Also Amazon have removed googles apps, from their store/devices before, apps such as UA-cam/the google play store, to get them on those devices, they have to be side loaded/the APK has to be downloaded. they also ALL have browsers/ multiple browsers exist, Chrome,Safari,Amazons browser/silk browser,Microsoft/Edge, also other browsers exist FireFox, Duck Duck Go, Opera,brave,tor and many more, I am failing to mention too, im sure. Also A LOT of them have different types of media/video platforms, UA-cam,DailyMotion,Amazon Prime,Apples streaming service, also MANY other companies are in the market, Netflix,Hulu,HBO MAX,Disney+,Starz, direct tv, sling tv,playstation tv and so on. Also they ALL have streaming devices, but so does, Roku,Nvidia Shield TV and so on, also home devices, Google has them, Apple and Amazon. Also they work with A LOT of companies, so smart devices, such as lights,doorbells,security cameras, apps and so on, can be compatible with their smart devices, through voice and in general. Also ALL kinds of apps are on these stores, not just Amazon's,Apple's,Microsoft's and Google's. Also like I said, these companies compete with each other and other companies, on a day to day basis, for our time/to go to Facebook,UA-cam,Twitter,Pinterest,Reddit and so on. Bitcoin exists Twitter also has square, their payment system. Facebook has Libra. Apple has Apple Pay. I'm sure Google will have their own as well. A long with Amazon. Walmart has talked about creating their own currency as well. I'm sure Disney and A LOT of other companies will ALSO do the same as well. Also Microsoft has Cortana,Amazon has Alexa,Apple has siri. Also Microsoft,Amazon and Google have cloud servers as well/you can rent/lease these servers and use them, they do have TOS/Contracts/rules though, just like EVERY other thing we rent, rented vehicles have contracts/rules as well. Also ALL of these companies are competing for our time as well and business. Google sells ads/products, such as chrome cast,Google home devices,Pixel phones,Amazon sells products/ads, they ALL rent server space, also linux have servers too though/Red Hat/other distros support servers. Also Walmart, Amazon,Wish, Alibaba and Home Depot exist, along with A LOT of other companies,they ALL deliver too, with Doordash,UPS,USPS, FedEx and Amazon. Microsoft has social platforms/also owns GitHub, along with,Yammer,Teams,Skype,Linkedin Facebook owns: Oculus VR, Instagram,Whats app. Google:UA-cam. Just to name some other social platforms: Voat,Quora,4chan,We Chat,Tumblr,snapchat,TikTok,Weibo,Wechat/weixin,QQ,Viber,Telegram,Medium,Clubhouse,Rumble,MeWe,Gab,Triller,WT Social,Valence,Flip,Popbase,Elpha,Yubo,Peanut,HouseParty,Caffeine,Steemit,GoodReads,CaringBridge,WattPad,Crunchyroll,italki,Ello,Vimeo,Giphy,Tribe,Kuaishou,lmgur,influenster,FilmAffinity,Open Diary,Bubbly,Soundcloud,Mocospace,CouchSurfing,just to name a few. Also if you wanted, you could run linux/Ubuntu Touch/SailFish OS/Plasma Mobile, and also use F-droid and use Opera, anyway alternatives are out there. Also if you have an Apple device, I would think you would want that closed environment/ecosystem. Also if we opened up these stores to EVERYONE/didn't have any security/vetting process, I don't think that would be good. I guess you could ALREADY argue that these stores, ALREADY have malware/adware on them/they track,spy and so on, BUT I still think a vetting process should be in place. My main point is, NONE of these companies have something another one doesn't, meaning another form of the exact same thing, ALREADY exists out there/people have other options/they are not forced into using a certain company. I don't see a monopoly here, infact I see ALL of these companies, fighting for our time and business. Real Monopolies/POTENTIAL monopolies are internet companies,electric companies,water companies,Gas companies and garbage companies, SOME locations don't have other options, in that area, but one company, so they could charge what ever they want and treat their customers, how ever they want, with no consequences. TSMC and ASML MAY ALSO be TRUE Monopolies, MAINLY, because they don't have MUCH or ANY REAL competition and TONS of companies rely on them,Samsung MAY be changing this,SOMEWHAT SOON, they plan to open a chip manufacturing company, in Texas.
This ALSO covers SOME of the other concerns people are mentioning as well, ALSO by interfering in the market/trying to stop companies from bundling services, like AT&T does/Amazon does and so on, this is going to hurt consumers/prices will go up, you won't get as many perks/benefits from being an Amazon Prime member, ALSO not allowing people/developers to create something and sell it, to Amazon/Apple/Google/Microsoft/Disney/Walmart and so on, is not right either. What's been being described, that Apple/Android is doing, is what ALL people in business do/you have a vendor that you pay for products and USUALLY that vendor gives you a discount, for being a business or purchasing a certain number of products/in bulk, then you turn around and up the price of the product, you just purchased, to make a profit, when selling to your customers. ALSO these fees go to updating software/maintenance/to coders that code in Java/C#/HTML and CSS, Java Script/PHP/C, ALSO hosting/advertising/giving these software developers/companies a place to sell their products/APPs, ALSO transaction fees. ALSO IF you don't want to be in that closed eco system, that APPLE has created for its users, Android is an option/ANYTHING can be side loaded/downloaded, with Android, as an APK. ALSO like I've ALREADY stated, in the past, Apple's,Android's/Google's/Amazon's and Microsoft's APPs aren't the ONLY APPs on these stores,ALSO you can MOST LIKELY find MULTIPLE APPs that do the exact same thing on these stores. Such as messengers, Email apps,browsers,calculators,Alarm Clocks,Flash lights,things like nova launcher/Launchers,Music services and so on. So what congress/the government is saying, is you can't run a business? Also the accusations about companies taking developers products, I don't think thats true. If you look at history, look at MOST things companies have, they didn't even code them/they were purchased/ONE example Siri. ALSO look how long it took for a flashlight to be built into an OS/Operating System, its been SOMEWHAT recent since this problem has been solved,BUT flashlight APPs have been on the store, for a LONG TIME, an even BIGGER issue, that is STARTING to get solved, without root/unlocking your phone, is dark mode, APPs are starting to handle this and notification drop down menus and settings menus are STARTING to get better/fixed FINNALLY. I ALSO guarantee these companies aren't taking developer's code. It COULD just appear this way though, IF you look at ALL the companies, they copy each other/ A LOT of them have phones, A LOT of them have APPs/ calculators,calendars,flash lights,messenger apps, browsers,features and so on, they have to compete, OR they can't stay relevant. Also IF you want to handle ALL of this, A LOT of companies don't want to handle all of this, this as in SEO, advertising,coding/HTML/CSS/PHP/Java Script/Python/maintaining physical servers/websites/payment systems/hosting and so on, you can do that,BUT this is why A LOT of companies pay OTHER companies to handle these things/its time consuming/it cost money/you NEED to know A LOT, to do so, A LOT of companies want to focus/spend their time on their business and not ALL of these other things. Also some people are mentioning these things too/products that pop up, when you search for things,related to the site. These results,say sponsored/advertisement, right beside it AND your ACTUAL results are directly below the sponsored/advertisement results. ALSO if your on Amazon and it says Amazon basics, right by the product, we ALL understand its an Amazon product, its not a secret lol. ALSO ANOTHER thing people seem not to understand,IF you wanted to open your OWN website, to sell products, you can do that, AND IF you understand SEO, you can be really successful,BUT this is why E-Bay/Amazon/Square Space/Apple Store/Android Store/Microsoft store and so on, charge a fee/a customer finders fee/they also receive this money, to maintain their websites/servers as well, but to be successful, on your own, you have to build an audience/clientele, to be able to sell your products, on your own site, BUT these companies ALREADY have customers/have ALREADY built their market and you can even use Amazon as a warehouse/as storage, for your product OR you can never see products and drop ship/buy inventory from Amazon or pay for advertising, through Facebook,Google,Amazon and so on. ALSO ANYONE can make money through there own website/by understanding these things: The MOST important things to remember is, low price, convince and remember we live in a digital world,BUT on top of that. Innovation is what makes you a good business person/IF you're not CONSTANTLY changing and adapting/making things BETTER,your failing as a business, Also A LOT of people have this info/its not just Google/Amazon/Apple/Microsoft/Facebook/Twitter and so on, that have the ability to understand algorithms/understanding data, ANYONE doing SEO work NEEDS to understand ALL of this/it MAY be creepy, but knowing what people are buying/selling/knowing where their going/where they've been, physically and digitally, helps when your trying to connect the right people/EVERYONE can see this info though, as long as they have the know how to and IF you work in SEO, you NEED to know how to do ALL of this,BUT technically you can use Google/they supply ALL of the tools you NEED to prosper/you can get listed through Google, use their analytic tools, to track/study your customers, anyway ALL of this can be done, for free/the systems designed to do, what you want/need it to do, you could ALSO use other companies tools, such as square space, or another company, or you COULD ALSO hire an SEO professional,BUT its NOT NEEDED,IF you have the time/patience to understand ALL of this. Honestly the only thing a start up company/a new company, doesn't have, that Google has, is money, ALL of this knowledge is out there, for EVERYONE/its code, if you can read the code, then apply that to an algorithm, you can do EXACTLY what googles doing/ what EVERYONE else, that are successful, are ALREADY doing. Also by understanding SEO, you SHOULD be able to make money EASILY and FAST,IF you understand SEO, coding and Algorithms, that will help as well, ALSO IF you don't know how to sell your self/IF you can't find a market for your product/IF the market doesn't exist, that CAN/COULD be a problem TOO though, so you either have to create a market or realize your idea/product, is obsolete AND YOU NEED TO MOVE ON. ALSO companies like parler/Fortnite, that think its a good idea, to violate companies TOS/Company Policy/contracts/User Agreements/not moderating/trying to advertise your website on someone elses website/bypassing payment methods/offering another price on your website, thats Advertised, on someone elses platform, doing things this controversial, I would DEFINITELY get my OWN PHYSICAL servers, I would also code in a language that can EASILY be scaled/moved, MAYBE Java/Python, along with the NORMAL stuff, HTML,CSS,PHP,Java Script, MAYBE also C, IF needed AND so on, anyway it needs to be a company/code that can really adapt, to any situation, QUICKLY AND prepare to get sued, because your violating your contract/trying to steal advertisement.
There is an easy fix. Simply make it illegal for any social media company to remove any post...regardless of truthfulnedd accuracy, point of view or discomfort produced, unless it is prohibited by federal law. Allow exceptions for clearly defined objectionable material that can be universally applied without bias, such as pornography, but prohibit POV bigotry. If you expose a population to only one "truth" they will soon meet to be told what the truth is.
@Cody and William Murphy if you think it is difficult to ban nudity then we really don't have much of a starting point. I don't think it is difficult. Most people don't. The solution is not "more facebooks" because that just gives you more Zuckerbergs, Bezos and Dorseys, wealthy and extremely powerful men, who generally agree in what the world should look like (a world where they decide things for the little people) and cooperate on how to shape it, who believe their calling is to control thought and communication. What is needed is a leash on control...not speech. You would end gang violence by encouraging more, competing gangs. Censorship is oppression. Oppression is violence. This is not a Free Speech issue. It is a Denial of Civil Rights issue. This is already illegal, but they believe they have a bulletproof loophole because they are private companies and the courts have not yet ruled against that. Their monopoly power gives them almost unfettered power...the kind of power that prevents "more facebooks" from starting. Look what happened to Parler, the single greatest threat to Twitter monopoly in years. Dorsey gets on the phone with his buddies, Jeff Bezos and Tim Cook, and says, "I don't like Parler"...so Bezos and Cook say "no sweat, @Jack, we'll just delete them"...and they did. There must be severe penalties for all discrimination, including for Point of View or bias. Just as cops can't arrest people because they don't like their hair color, Big Tech should not be allowed to silence a point of view because they disagree with it.
I have comment that is decent that I will put on my blog because it is too long to post here. I sent the same comment to another section 230 nonprofit a year ago. My comment will be regarding section 230 and the regulation of active physical and exigent danger to humans, animals and the environment. I don’t have a comment on the conundrum of free speech. That is a tough nut to crack. This is a good video coverage of the topic. Thank you.
AWSOME.......GO SECTION 230 AND ALL OF YOU THAT ARE FIGHTING FOR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS!!
Here's my thinking. If your gonna label your internet forums town Squares for free speach i.e. Twitter. And in the beginning your rules and mission statement are in line with free speech.. and after I have invested years of time in my profile based on the rules and mission statement.. you decide to do a 180 and band free speech because you disagree with it .
Then are you not breaking the original contract 🤔.. and can't I sue for my time spent building my profile based on the fact I joined because it was a free speach forum .that no longer cares about free speech. So now I must now find a free speech forum a town Square.. and invest years building a new profile,new friends, new discussions..
Too many cowards on this earth, including the lawyers who don't stand by the truth.
Even got the writer to contribute!
Myspace we had to write the code to put secret photos or messages or memes. Now i hope we all learn everyday
PS to my prior comment. The only thing I would ask you to consider doing is to reduce the volume of your background music on this video. The reason I say this is because it is presenting the video feel in a way that is slanting the message you’re trying to get across. My point, the volume and musical melody is a bit too dramatic and over the top and it makes me take the video less seriously and is if you’re trying to influence me a little bit too much with the dramatic music. As well, because your music is too loud it’s actually competing with your message. If that makes any sense. And the volume speaks volumes. It’s overbearing. I’m sure you can go in and find a way to edit that video and reduce the volume to a nice subliminal background level. I think you’ll get a lot more viewers taking this well done video more seriously. I certainly would.
Forgot youtube 😂
Loved it, very well done.👍👍👏👏👏
Testing my first amendment rights. The federalist society is full of retards.
Apple and Google App stores control what Apps can be downloaded on over 99% of smartphones. Acting in unison with Amazon who hosted the content they took out Parler a rival to Twitter. Section 230 could be updated to allow such biased actions to be reversed and large fines when they are reversed.
More of this type of content, please!
Nice video. Share it!
Free speech right is one of the most important part of keeping our State system's health feel well. We should prevent it from any regulation, no matter who it comes from.
I heard an idea....
Split the moderation form the distribution. Allow each user to select their own 3rd party app to do their filtering. All viewpoints are then allowed to act as common carrier and can have their 230 protection, but can legitimately refrain from filtering. I will get my own filter so I don't have to see "fake news" but I allow your 1st amendment freedom to see anything you want.
Unintended consequence of the above is the actually illegal content issue. The common carrier I would use as a model is the telephone. I can call my brother and have a political discussion and no one thinks of it being moderated. One could also discuss the commission of a crime on the phone. The FBI (and other G-men) could listen in (wire tap) but only with a court order. That would allow laws to restrict illegal speech, their enforcement, but give me back my 1st amendment freedom to hear the speech I want.
Terrible analogy. It isn't illegal to talk about a crime you committed. You get arrested for the crime you did. The tapped phone call is just evidence to help convict you.
230 must go
Why?
@@Euphoniumstar because Marxist don't have rights
Noo, wtf
Excellent video
Tech got problems but 230 aint one, Id rather see DMCA reform.
👍🏼 Great concept & production quality! Hats off to all involved! 😎
The government forcing Social Media to host content they disagree with is a violation of their 1st ammendment rights. Period. Anyone who says otherwise has utter contempt for the US Constitution.
@Brandon West Corporations are considered "persons" under US law. Hence corporations have 1a free speech rights like an individual does. Censoring content on their own platform is them exercising their free speech right. Your logic seems flawed.
@Moo Tube Controversial or not, it's been that way for over 100 years now. Don't like it? Take it up with the supreme court. Supreme court has ruled that a corporation is essentially the interest of a group of people and therefore extended similar rights that people have. Cry about it all you want but that's how it works in US courts. Hence why corporations can be sued for damages like a person. Or sued for defamation etc. Facts don't care about your feelings.
@Moo Tube Why would I oppose a system that works? Lmao. You sound like you hate it and wont change it. You remind me of those wives who get beaten by their husband but stay and keep telling yourself you can change him. Living in a fantasy world, princess.
This is a shortened/the shortest version I could put together about section 230/companies first amendment rights/company policy/user agreements/TOS, it doesn't have A LOT of info behind these thoughts, BUT IF you understand ENOUGH, you can understand MOST, IF NOT ALL, of this.
I think the even crazier thing is/funny/ironic thing is/ A LOT of people seem to want to punish these companies/honestly at this point, there is no logic, behind what people are TRYING to do, IF you remove section 230, you will force companies to moderate EVERYTHING vs just what they are moderating now/IF you violate a companies 1st amendment right, to run thier OWN business, how they want, your not solving anything, IF you try to use the Monopoly card, that doesn't make sense either, because to much business/opportunity is in the market, for EVERYONE, for that to make sense/Apps/Websites/Servers/online shopping/messaging/sending pictures/videos,buying things online, online stores/browsers/ads, are available from thousands, if not more companies/big tech doesn't have ANYTHING, another company doesn't already have/their not doing ANYTHING, other companies aren't ALREADY doing.
What are you fighting for?
Freedom of speech doesn't apply in private business/on private property/IF you go in Walmart yelling and screaming, you will be escorted out/kicked out/MAYBE banned from the store.
If these companies are considered editors/publishers, then you will be censored EVEN MORE.
Then even after section 230 gets removed, these companies have TOS/User Agreements/Company Policy/Contracts and so on, to fall back on.
These companies can ALSO claim that the censorship, is a direct reflection, of their customers/the companies/people paying for ADs, don't want certain content, around their ADs.
ALSO I think a company has a right to disassociate its self with certain things/certain companies, MAY not want to be affiliated with certain things.
Meaning SOMEONE could post something crazy like, mouth wash will cure the pandemic, as a company/business, you might not want to be affiliated with that/you MAY not want your customers to think of you, when this is talked about/you may ALSO feel morally responsible, IF thats on your website/server, ALSO these companies/Employees/CEOs, aren't doctors, so they don't want certain drug information about curing something, on their website/it MAY be a political free website/it may be certain hateful attitudes, they MAY not want to be affiliated with, point being is, a company should be able to form, what ever community they want, good or bad/thats the vision the creators, of the website, had/have, IF someone wants to create something else, they can do that and they can make it, whatever they want it to be, as well.
What's the point/what's the end game?
The ONLY other thing I see here is, its a game/a charade/a show/political/talk/ basically its congress/the government/other political people just talking, to make it sound like their doing something, even though they don't understand what their trying to achieve/do, other than make their voters, THINK they care/for them to TRY and get re-elected, I mean beyond this, I can't see a purpose, for ANY of this.
ALSO honestly I don't think the government NEEDS OR SHOULD be involved in any of this/I think the market will figure its self out/IF someone doesn't like a certain business,because they were censored/because they don't like a business's business practice, then, people/consumers/users have the option to not use that service/not use that business AND IF ENOUGH people feel this way, then the business will adapt/change OR no longer exist, in this BIG market/the internet, people have a LOT of options, so basically, let the customers/users/economy/market sort it out.
We ALREADY have government regulated constitutional laws/the FTC/FCC/DOJ and other regulatory organizations, handle the things that need to be handled, EVERYTHING, is ALREADY in place, the way it NEEDS to be.
We don't want to get to a point where the government ONLY allows us, to see certain things/the government doesn't need to control these things/we don't need to turn into china/have to have a VPN, to get news/information.
These two companies MAY be REAL monopolies TSMC and ASML, Samsung MAY be combating this SOON/Samsung is opening/building a chip manufacturing facility, in the US, other REAL monopolies, utility companies, water,electric,gas,internet,trash companies, SOME areas MAY only have one option, for these services, that is what a TRUE monopoly is,being big, alone, doesn't make you a monopoly.
When it comes to whistle blowers, Honestly none of this matters, UNLESS the company is breaking the law/allowing things that are illegal, on their site, that falls on them and isn't protected under, user agreements/TOS/Company Policy/Contracts/the first amendment OR section 230.
The definition of hate speech/things that need to be censored, is up to/defined by the individual company/property owner.
The main thing is, the first amendment protects companies AND individuals, from the government, meaning the government can't regulate speech, to an extent, BUT theres a thing called, disturbing the peace, BUT companies can/home owners can/speech can be regulated on/over private property, that could be a house/property/ Walmart/item,that could be a privately owned server,website or APP, ALSO each business/property owner has the right to make their own rules on their own property OR over their own property.
Its not Jack Dorsey/Bill Gates/Ben Silbermann/Bernard Bergemar/Craig Newmark/Zhang Yiming/Sundat Pichai/Tim Cook/Mark Zuckerberg, responsibility to monitor your kids internet usage, thats the PARENTS responsibility/job,ALSO a website/company has a right to have what ever algorithms, community guidelines/user agreements/company policies, that they want, on their own site/property.
We ALREADY have ratings on content/age restrictions/regulations/the FTC/FCC/DOJ/other regulatory organizations and laws are ALREADY in place.
Another reason this doesn't matter, is, think about this, if Facebook was to TRY and stop, certain age/kids, from accessing FB, what's stopping your kids from looking at other content on the internet,such as pornography/communicating with child molesters/other people/content, parents should be monitoring/have other systems/router security, in place, to prevent, certain devices/users, from going to certain sites/searching certain words/phrases/be a PARENT/take responsibility of your children.
Examples of why section 230's principles work, and why EVERYONE should be responsible, for their OWN ACTIONS/WORDS,MAYBE the ONLY EXCEPTION to that, is IF the person CAN PROVE, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT, that they were COERCED,a few examples of why section 230's principles work:
Its a tool,IF you miss use the tool, thats not the manufacturers fault/IF you use the tool to murder someone, thats not the manufacturers fault.
A car company could sell a car, to someone and that person could use that car for sex trafficking, thats not what the car company built/manufactured/sold the car for/thats not what facebook/thats not why other websites/companies were made, BUT thats what it was used for.
This should DEFINITELY fall on the sex traffickers, NOT a platform/car manufacturer.
The car company AND the platform/website profited, from this, with car sales and the platform, through ad revenue,BUT thats not what the car/platform/website was built for.
This responsibility either falls on the parents or the adult/of age person, to prevent things like this from happening, and OBVIOUSLY, the crime falls on the sex traffickers and DEFINITELY NOT THE PLATFORM, LOL, can you imagine car companies having to take responsibility for drug dealers, delivering drugs or car companies having to take responsibility for reckless drivers, that would be crazy.
The ONLY exception in/to this, is if a law is in place, ALREADY/by/through the FTC/FCC/DOJ or other regulatory organizations and these laws NEED to continue to not violate anyone's constitutional rights/they can't violate companies 1st amendment rights OR certain laws shouldn't ONLY apply to a handful of companies, because someone doesn't like a certain company,we ALREADY have Monopoly laws and company policy, is something every company in the US can implement,legally.
These companies can also do what ever research they want on their business/websites/servers/its not against the law to do SEO work/ look at data/algorithms/analytics, to determine what the best courses of action are/is, to make your/their business/businesses thrive and become/continue to be/remain successful.
ALSO these company's, research/algorithms/data research, CAN come back with MULTIPLE DIFFERENT outcomes/answers, depending on the algorithm/data its fed/if one things left out, of the equation, the answer/outcome CAN/COULD be wrong/totally different, ALSO, because analyst know this, MULTIPLE studies are made/a LOT of data is examined, with varying answers/outcomes,so one study alone can't always give you the right answer/one study alone doesn't mean much.
Whistleblowers arent completely protected;
Whistleblowers are required to present information and other documents that can back up their claims when filing a dispute. If it is found that they are lying, they may be subjected to criminal charges. ... Whistleblower Protection does not always protect federal workers.
A whistleblower does not have unfettered permission to take documents. “Nothing in this subdivision shall be interpreted to prevent any law enforcement authority from bringing a civil or criminal action against any person for violating any provision of law.
Going public, isn't always the best option either:
Whistleblowing legislation is designed to protect people who blow the whistle in the right way, and for the right reasons. If you reveal your concerns via social media or by going to the press, you may not be entitled to receive the legal protection you'll need.
This may also mark you as a risk/problematic employee/prevent you from getting another job in the future.
NDAs forfeit whistleblowing eligibility and this is DEFINITELY something you need for certain things, for proprietary things, like inventions/recipes/algorithms/projects/hardware and so on.
So whistleblowers do have their limitations and as you can see, they can also be limited/stopped all together, SOMETIMES, whistleblowers are good, but in this case its just a publicity stunt.
This is how these companies protect their selfs, in the future, without section 230 AND this is how these companies do what they do now, with your data/you give them permission to/you agree to it.
These companies have to moderate, because these companies NEED to make money/be SOMEWHAT family friendly, for their customers/companies/people paying for ads.
So their ONLY choice, in general, BUT DEFINITELY without section 230, is to moderate EVERYTHING, well everything that violates Terms Of Services/User Agreements/Company Policy.
Also The User Agreement,TOS and Company policy was created to protect that specific company/that individual company, meaning that company can make what ever decisions they want, about their own company/private property/servers.
Another example, if I have guest over at my house and I set rules for them, they have to follow those rules, but I don't, I could also choose to enforce those rules, how ever I want to, meaning, if I have a close friend, I can tell them, they don't have to worrie about that, or I can say, if you pay this much, those rules don't apply to you, or I could have a separate contract with an individual company, where they get another version of TOS.
Heres some more examples of how section 230 doesn't matter as much, as people think it does, well it does, if you don't want to be censored, but if censor ship doesn't bother you, repealing section 230, won't effect you.
If section 230 is removed, user Agreements/Terms Of Service and company policy will protect these companies, the ones, we ALL agree to, when we access/use these companies websites/apps.
Also these companies can claim they are not biased, the censorship is a direct reflection of their customers/the people buying ads, don't want certain content around their ads.
Also EVERYTHING will be moderated/censored, EVEN MORE, IF section 230 gets removed.
You can't go to Walmart yelling and screaming profanity, without getting thrown out and MAYBE even banned from the store, because of company policy, no shirt no shoes, no service; no mask, you can't enter the building.
Also as another example have you ever read what you sign when you go to the Dentist?
Some of what that says, basically says, if we break your jaw/deform you, we are not responsible and you can't sue the company or employee.
Also to go a little further with that, Amazon, to protect them selfs, from law suits/reviews on their websites that are bad, companies would have to have an agreement, with these companies, meaning, if you want your product at Walmart/Amazon, you will need to agree to this, then that product would be approved, meaning that company can no longer sue Amazon/Walmart, for a bad review, a buyer/user leaves.
This would protect the company from what the user says and does AND this would protect the companies selling other companies products as well.
This could also go further, with website agreements too, meaning your ISP/Internet Service Provider, would ALSO be responsible for what you say and do, on the internet, so, certain sites would be on an approved list, based on their user agreements/you would have access to some websites, that are approved and some websites, you can't access.
So MORE censorship.
This was originally written, to show companies, that work with other companies, why they can't violate contracts/TOS/Terms Of Service, when using other companies services,this also shows how companies can still accomplish what they want and need to, they just have to use their own servers/websites/browsers/stores and so on,so their not bound by contracts and TOS,but this also shows where this is going,IF things become unconstitutional,when it comes to the government, were not here YET, at least with the unconstitutional issues, YET,but this is the final steps, IF THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN:
This is MAINLY about Parler,BUT parts of this, COULD ALSO apply to other companies,IF the government violates companies 1st amendment rights/if regulation starts becoming unconstitutional,other companies MAY have to ALSO use these tactics, BUT Parler still have/has plenty of options, a long with A LOT of other companies, BUT companies that are doing business, with these companies, ALSO have to follow these companies TOS/Terms Of Service,User Agreements,Company Policies and contracts.
Meaning, IF you have controversial ideas, MAYBE, you should have your OWN servers/not pay another company for cloud servers, binding you to ANOTHER agreement/TOS/Contract, if you want something like this, you need your OWN, physical servers/Website, APP and browser, IF Duck duck go/Opera, doesn't work for you. Also either a store or just allow your APK, to be downloaded, from your website.
ALSO, IF you have an idea/platform/APP, that has no censorship/moderation/that violates A LOT of companies TOS/Terms Of Service/User Agreements/Company Policy and so on, MAYBE OPEN SOURCE/FREE SOFTWARE/ALSO Linux/different distros, WOULD be a good option, IF thats where your business NEEDS to be, BECAUSE, it violates MOST companies, Terms Of Service/Company Policy/User Agreements and so on.
Richard Stallman liked/likes free software, free as in, you are allowed to modify the code, not free as in price, that MAY be something you MIGHT want to look into as well,I'm not saying I'm COMPLETELY on board with him as a person,BUT it is an option.
Also Parler CAN still have their APP, on the Play Store/Apple Store and their servers, BUT they need to moderate better/change WHAT EVER, it is thats violating TOS/ Terms Of Service.
Another example, when SOME UA-cam channels don't fit/conform to UA-cam properly, A LOT of creators turn to patreon and MAYBE sponsors.
Anyway OTHER OPTIONS are out there.
You can't violate these companies TOS/Terms Of Service,User Agreement or company policies.
You can do what ever you want on your own website/servers, BUT I suggest, the company should ALSO be careful with that too, also your APP can TECHNICALLY be side loaded, to devices, IF Android/Google or Apple doesn't notice, because its their OS/Operating System, BUT technically you should be good, just have instructions on your site, how to become a developer/tap build number 7 times and enable your device to side load the APP or allow the APK to be downloaded/installed, from your website.
If Parlers not figuring out simple things, like TOS/they didn't realize this, they DEFINITELY don't realize whats going to happen NEXT.
They will NEED to keep their servers out of the US/ at the least VPNs/re-routing traffic, will help, for their CURRENT problems OR have your OWN servers, in the right area.
Meaning Parler has to also follow laws, so the government doesn't shut them down, or at the least keep their servers out of the US/register their business somewhere else.
ALSO doing things this controversial, I would DEFINITELY code in a language that can EASILY be scaled/moved/MAYBE Java/Python, along with the NORMAL stuff, HTML,CSS,PHP,Java Script, MAYBE also C, IF needed AND so on, anyway it needs to be a company/code that can really adapt, to any situation, QUICKLY.
Also Parler needs a serious look at security as well, their platform is TERRIBLE, when it comes to security.
Anyone debating about using Parler, I would advise them not to, because of their security issues.
Hopefully this helps them/points out OTHER problems though, meaning, once they get their own servers, IF their in the wrong areas/IF their not using VPNs and so on, they will STILL be having issues/the government could shut them down, IF they don't think first,ALSO, IF the government continues this/some things from the government, is normal,BUT these un justify able targeted attacks, against big tech, NEED to stop OR other companies MAY NEED to do these things as well/get out of the US,including Google, the government aren't supposed to do things like this/what's been going on recently/I have a feeling, its going to turn into something thats COMPLETELY unconstitutional.
A lot of people seem to think these companies are monopolies, I'm not seeing it.
To start with, we CAN'T bail companies out that don't understand the market/that aren't understanding the times/moving with the times/adapting/making good business decisions, companies like Sears,Kmart,ToysRUs,Blockbusters and so on, companies that are already dead/that are going to inevitably die anyway.
The Last Blockbuster, MAY become a museum and survive/have an admission fee, BUT traditional brick and mortar won't survive.
Companies that think brick and mortar is forever/newspapers that still use actual paper, just to give a few examples, IF a company is obsolete, we can't punish the companies that actually understand the market/the main things are, low price, convenience and remember we live in a digital world.
A LOT of people claim these companies are monopolies.
How do you think they are Monopolies?
What makes them monopolies?
Infact I would argue A LOT of them rely on each other, to be as successful, as they are and they are competing with one another too and they have other competition too.
Meaning Google/Apple/Amazon/Microsoft, supply the store, for download/to get the APP, but also other stores exist, such as F-droid,Opera store,Linux stores, such as the Ubuntu Software store, the Snap store,FlatPak,repositories, also playstation and many others, that I'm sure I'm failing to mention.
Also Amazon have removed googles apps, from their store/devices before, apps such as UA-cam/the google play store, to get them on those devices, they have to be side loaded/the APK has to be downloaded.
they also ALL have browsers/ multiple browsers exist, Chrome,Safari,Amazons browser/silk browser,Microsoft/Edge, also other browsers exist FireFox, Duck Duck Go, Opera,brave,tor and many more, I am failing to mention too, im sure.
Also A LOT of them have different types of media/video platforms, UA-cam,DailyMotion,Amazon Prime,Apples streaming service, also MANY other companies are in the market, Netflix,Hulu,HBO MAX,Disney+,Starz, direct tv, sling tv,playstation tv and so on.
Also they ALL have streaming devices, but so does, Roku,Nvidia Shield TV and so on, also home devices, Google has them, Apple and Amazon.
Also they work with A LOT of companies, so smart devices, such as lights,doorbells,security cameras, apps and so on, can be compatible with their smart devices, through voice and in general.
Also ALL kinds of apps are on these stores, not just Amazon's,Apple's,Microsoft's and Google's.
Also like I said, these companies compete with each other and other companies, on a day to day basis, for our time/to go to Facebook,UA-cam,Twitter,Pinterest,Reddit and so on.
Bitcoin exists
Twitter also has square, their payment system.
Facebook has Libra.
Apple has Apple Pay.
I'm sure Google will have their own as well.
A long with Amazon.
Walmart has talked about creating their own currency as well.
I'm sure Disney and A LOT of other companies will ALSO do the same as well.
Also Microsoft has Cortana,Amazon has Alexa,Apple has siri.
Also Microsoft,Amazon and Google have cloud servers as well/you can rent/lease these servers and use them, they do have TOS/Contracts/rules though, just like EVERY other thing we rent, rented vehicles have contracts/rules as well.
Also ALL of these companies are competing for our time as well and business.
Google sells ads/products, such as chrome cast,Google home devices,Pixel phones,Amazon sells products/ads, they ALL rent server space, also linux have servers too though/Red Hat/other distros support servers.
Also Walmart, Amazon,Wish, Alibaba and Home Depot exist, along with A LOT of other companies,they ALL deliver too, with Doordash,UPS,USPS, FedEx and Amazon.
Microsoft has social platforms/also owns GitHub, along with,Yammer,Teams,Skype,Linkedin
Facebook owns: Oculus VR, Instagram,Whats app.
Google:UA-cam.
Just to name some other social platforms:
Voat,Quora,4chan,We Chat,Tumblr,snapchat,TikTok,Weibo,Wechat/weixin,QQ,Viber,Telegram,Medium,Clubhouse,Rumble,MeWe,Gab,Triller,WT Social,Valence,Flip,Popbase,Elpha,Yubo,Peanut,HouseParty,Caffeine,Steemit,GoodReads,CaringBridge,WattPad,Crunchyroll,italki,Ello,Vimeo,Giphy,Tribe,Kuaishou,lmgur,influenster,FilmAffinity,Open Diary,Bubbly,Soundcloud,Mocospace,CouchSurfing,just to name a few.
Also if you wanted, you could run linux/Ubuntu Touch/SailFish OS/Plasma Mobile, and also use F-droid and use Opera, anyway alternatives are out there.
Also if you have an Apple device, I would think you would want that closed environment/ecosystem.
Also if we opened up these stores to EVERYONE/didn't have any security/vetting process, I don't think that would be good.
I guess you could ALREADY argue that these stores, ALREADY have malware/adware on them/they track,spy and so on, BUT I still think a vetting process should be in place.
My main point is, NONE of these companies have something another one doesn't, meaning another form of the exact same thing, ALREADY exists out there/people have other options/they are not forced into using a certain company.
I don't see a monopoly here, infact I see ALL of these companies, fighting for our time and business.
Real Monopolies/POTENTIAL monopolies are internet companies,electric companies,water companies,Gas companies and garbage companies, SOME locations don't have other options, in that area, but one company, so they could charge what ever they want and treat their customers, how ever they want, with no consequences.
TSMC and ASML MAY ALSO be TRUE Monopolies, MAINLY, because they don't have MUCH or ANY REAL competition and TONS of companies rely on them,Samsung MAY be changing this,SOMEWHAT SOON, they plan to open a chip manufacturing company, in Texas.
This ALSO covers SOME of the other concerns people are mentioning as well, ALSO by interfering in the market/trying to stop companies from bundling services, like AT&T does/Amazon does and so on, this is going to hurt consumers/prices will go up, you won't get as many perks/benefits from being an Amazon Prime member, ALSO not allowing people/developers to create something and sell it, to Amazon/Apple/Google/Microsoft/Disney/Walmart and so on, is not right either.
What's been being described, that Apple/Android is doing, is what ALL people in business do/you have a vendor that you pay for products and USUALLY that vendor gives you a discount, for being a business or purchasing a certain number of products/in bulk, then you turn around and up the price of the product, you just purchased, to make a profit, when selling to your customers.
ALSO these fees go to updating software/maintenance/to coders that code in Java/C#/HTML and CSS, Java Script/PHP/C, ALSO hosting/advertising/giving these software developers/companies a place to sell their products/APPs, ALSO transaction fees.
ALSO IF you don't want to be in that closed eco system, that APPLE has created for its users, Android is an option/ANYTHING can be side loaded/downloaded, with Android, as an APK.
ALSO like I've ALREADY stated, in the past, Apple's,Android's/Google's/Amazon's and Microsoft's APPs aren't the ONLY APPs on these stores,ALSO you can MOST LIKELY find MULTIPLE APPs that do the exact same thing on these stores.
Such as messengers, Email apps,browsers,calculators,Alarm Clocks,Flash lights,things like nova launcher/Launchers,Music services and so on.
So what congress/the government is saying, is you can't run a business?
Also the accusations about companies taking developers products, I don't think thats true.
If you look at history, look at MOST things companies have, they didn't even code them/they were purchased/ONE example Siri.
ALSO look how long it took for a flashlight to be built into an OS/Operating System, its been SOMEWHAT recent since this problem has been solved,BUT flashlight APPs have been on the store, for a LONG TIME, an even BIGGER issue, that is STARTING to get solved, without root/unlocking your phone, is dark mode, APPs are starting to handle this and notification drop down menus and settings menus are STARTING to get better/fixed FINNALLY.
I ALSO guarantee these companies aren't taking developer's code.
It COULD just appear this way though, IF you look at ALL the companies, they copy each other/ A LOT of them have phones, A LOT of them have APPs/ calculators,calendars,flash lights,messenger apps, browsers,features and so on, they have to compete, OR they can't stay relevant.
Also IF you want to handle ALL of this, A LOT of companies don't want to handle all of this, this as in SEO, advertising,coding/HTML/CSS/PHP/Java Script/Python/maintaining physical servers/websites/payment systems/hosting and so on, you can do that,BUT this is why A LOT of companies pay OTHER companies to handle these things/its time consuming/it cost money/you NEED to know A LOT, to do so, A LOT of companies want to focus/spend their time on their business and not ALL of these other things.
Also some people are mentioning these things too/products that pop up, when you search for things,related to the site.
These results,say sponsored/advertisement, right beside it AND your ACTUAL results are directly below the sponsored/advertisement results.
ALSO if your on Amazon and it says Amazon basics, right by the product, we ALL understand its an Amazon product, its not a secret lol.
ALSO ANOTHER thing people seem not to understand,IF you wanted to open your OWN website, to sell products, you can do that, AND IF you understand SEO, you can be really successful,BUT this is why E-Bay/Amazon/Square Space/Apple Store/Android Store/Microsoft store and so on, charge a fee/a customer finders fee/they also receive this money, to maintain their websites/servers as well, but to be successful, on your own, you have to build an audience/clientele, to be able to sell your products, on your own site, BUT these companies ALREADY have customers/have ALREADY built their market and you can even use Amazon as a warehouse/as storage, for your product OR you can never see products and drop ship/buy inventory from Amazon or pay for advertising, through Facebook,Google,Amazon and so on.
ALSO ANYONE can make money through there own website/by understanding these things:
The MOST important things to remember is, low price, convince and remember we live in a digital world,BUT on top of that.
Innovation is what makes you a good business person/IF you're not CONSTANTLY changing and adapting/making things BETTER,your failing as a business, Also A LOT of people have this info/its not just Google/Amazon/Apple/Microsoft/Facebook/Twitter and so on, that have the ability to understand algorithms/understanding data, ANYONE doing SEO work NEEDS to understand ALL of this/it MAY be creepy, but knowing what people are buying/selling/knowing where their going/where they've been, physically and digitally, helps when your trying to connect the right people/EVERYONE can see this info though, as long as they have the know how to and IF you work in SEO, you NEED to know how to do ALL of this,BUT technically you can use Google/they supply ALL of the tools you NEED to prosper/you can get listed through Google, use their analytic tools, to track/study your customers, anyway ALL of this can be done, for free/the systems designed to do, what you want/need it to do, you could ALSO use other companies tools, such as square space, or another company, or you COULD ALSO hire an SEO professional,BUT its NOT NEEDED,IF you have the time/patience to understand ALL of this.
Honestly the only thing a start up company/a new company, doesn't have, that Google has, is money, ALL of this knowledge is out there, for EVERYONE/its code, if you can read the code, then apply that to an algorithm, you can do EXACTLY what googles doing/ what EVERYONE else, that are successful, are ALREADY doing.
Also by understanding SEO, you SHOULD be able to make money EASILY and FAST,IF you understand SEO, coding and Algorithms, that will help as well, ALSO IF you don't know how to sell your self/IF you can't find a market for your product/IF the market doesn't exist, that CAN/COULD be a problem TOO though, so you either have to create a market or realize your idea/product, is obsolete AND YOU NEED TO MOVE ON.
ALSO companies like parler/Fortnite, that think its a good idea, to violate companies TOS/Company Policy/contracts/User Agreements/not moderating/trying to advertise your website on someone elses website/bypassing payment methods/offering another price on your website, thats Advertised, on someone elses platform, doing things this controversial, I would DEFINITELY get my OWN PHYSICAL servers, I would also code in a language that can EASILY be scaled/moved, MAYBE Java/Python, along with the NORMAL stuff, HTML,CSS,PHP,Java Script, MAYBE also C, IF needed AND so on, anyway it needs to be a company/code that can really adapt, to any situation, QUICKLY AND prepare to get sued, because your violating your contract/trying to steal advertisement.
There is an easy fix. Simply make it illegal for any social media company to remove any post...regardless of truthfulnedd
accuracy, point of view or discomfort produced, unless it is prohibited by federal law. Allow exceptions for clearly defined objectionable material that can be universally applied without bias, such as pornography, but prohibit POV bigotry. If you expose a population to only one "truth" they will soon meet to be told what the truth is.
@Cody and William Murphy if you think it is difficult to ban nudity then we really don't have much of a starting point. I don't think it is difficult. Most people don't. The solution is not "more facebooks" because that just gives you more Zuckerbergs, Bezos and Dorseys, wealthy and extremely powerful men, who generally agree in what the world should look like (a world where they decide things for the little people) and cooperate on how to shape it, who believe their calling is to control thought and communication. What is needed is a leash on control...not speech.
You would end gang violence by encouraging more, competing gangs. Censorship is oppression. Oppression is violence. This is not a Free Speech issue. It is a Denial of Civil Rights issue. This is already illegal, but they believe they have a bulletproof loophole because they are private companies and the courts have not yet ruled against that.
Their monopoly power gives them almost unfettered power...the kind of power that prevents "more facebooks" from starting. Look what happened to Parler, the single greatest threat to Twitter monopoly in years. Dorsey gets on the phone with his buddies, Jeff Bezos and Tim Cook, and says, "I don't like Parler"...so Bezos and Cook say "no sweat, @Jack, we'll just delete them"...and they did.
There must be severe penalties for all discrimination, including for Point of View or bias. Just as cops can't arrest people because they don't like their hair color, Big Tech should not be allowed to silence a point of view because they disagree with it.
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