She doesn't. She really doesn't care about her fellow mages and Solas says that in their banter. She wants Circles back, cause she had power. And mages in circles protected? Last time I played Origins and DA2 the mages were abused in Circles, not protected.
As someone who romances cassandra, glad her and the inquisitor are still even if there can't be official ceremonies for marriage ot a relationship. Still, glad she can still get busy on her down time
@@Falxifer95 Vivienne is a Tevinter Magister masquerading as a strict adherent to the Circle. But we all see her approval when you do shady shit. She's Tevinter to the core.
Andromeda and Anthem are the death of Bioware sadly, know this, most of the talent who made DAI are no longer with Bioware, they're a doomed studio now, unless they get a Drew Karpyshyn level writer or someone like Timothy Zahn, Kevin J Anderson, an awesome writer and top level artists they're doomed, also ditch Frostbite..... it's too bad that they can't just buy themselves back....make a small game, a RPG just to get back into that and make some money then hire new talent, writers and artists and maybe a tech guy who can build a game engine I miss the Bioware who made even this game....[my faves are KOTOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect 1]
Trespasser should've had a similar voice over epilogue, instead of small print that may leave the screen too quickly. If Claudia Black was unavailable for Trespasser, have Leliana do it.
Hey DanaDuchy, I think this would be better if you added a description to each of the cards or perhaps an annotation in the top right corner explaining the decisions that lead up to it. I really appreciate you taking the time to find and edit all of the ending together as well though, that can't have been a short affair by any means. I kind of wonder whether The Bright Hand or The College of Enchanters will be better for the world of Dragon Age though, both sound really good but it's One or the Other. I'm also glad that not all Templar Endings result in the Templars directly forcing mages under heel.
@@pearsemolloy9656 I romanced and killed him with my humorous Hawke who uses jokes to deflect the suffering of losing almost everyone who mattered to him, except Carver, who's a GW. But my canon romance is forever Fenris, so....
Inspired Leliana is the best Divine Victoria. - She dedicates the root of chantry back to charity and helping the people. - She opens the door of the chantry for all the faithful no matter their races (even Qunari), gender, background. May everyone find peace in the embrace of the Maker. - She proclaims that Love is the best gift from the Maker, and allows all members of the chantry to develop relationship with others. - She actualizes the vision of Divine Justinia, and recognises the injustice and long term abuse of the Circle, and allows the freedom of mages to govern themselves. - And she is still as smart and resourceful as usual.
Zenkx Yea mages governing themselves doesn't sound too good. Mandatory circles with mages being aloud to leave only when proven themselves seems more appropriate.
Man i would have desire a DLC focused in older protagonist The Warden in His Quest for a cure and Hawke "special kind of mess when he shows" in Weisshaupt
@@dgrblue4162 I don’t think most people would like that, myself included. After playing the witcher 3, all the mass effect games, da2 and of course Inquisition, voiced protagonists are superior in my eyes and I think most people would agree even if it limits dialogue options slightly.
@@GlizzyGoblin757 Depends on the game. I’ve played Pathfinder, POE, Divinity OS 1 & 2 and of course DA Origins. In all of these games the protagonist isn’t voiced and it feels right but with the direction they take Dragon Age with Inquisition, DA4 (and any other DA sequel) HAS to have a voiced protagonist for it to work, the story and vibe all depend on it. If it doesn’t it’d feel like they’re taking a step back or just being lazy.
Questions and more questions DA4 will have to answer and other personal doubts to discuss (I still have to go through Jaws of Hakkon and Trespasser): - The eternal question of DA saga: where the hell is going Morrigan (and Kieran) now? - What is happening in Weisshaupt? Is there going to be a Grey Warden civil war? - What happens to Hawke and Stroud? - What happens with the Legend of Ferelden and his/her quest against the Calling? - What happens with Solas and Flemeth? How is Solas related to the ascent of Corypheus and the Elven Orb? - Is Corypheus actually ? In the finall battle he seems to have been exiled to the Veil by the Inquisitor and not actually slain, although Iron Bull in the final celebration at Sky Hold says the Chantry was still ''gathering his ashes'' after the battle - What happens with Shaper Valta and lieutenant Renn? Who steals the latter's corpse from his tomb and why? What is the real nature of lyrium and the titans? Is lyrium in fact the blood of titans? So excited for DA4, which I'd love to be centered again in our Grey Warden, the character with whom I've enjoyed the most this great saga and whose particular story with Morrigan, Flemeth and the Blight seems to be the most exciting and the real canon for me lol
I like that you included all in the revealed order however it would have been useful to have outcome title and trigger conditions for reference and re-creation.
As one famous Bioware character once said: "Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients. Sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps."
Considering she’s only going after people who are against charity, racial equality, and mages and are sending assassins after her, I don’t feel bad for those people.
Who do people like to install as leaders? I've got: Orlais: Celene/Briala Chantry: Leliana (softened) Ferelden: Alistair/Cousland (romanced & unhardened) Orzammar: Bhelen(/Rica?)
Orlais: Celene/Briala • Chantry: Vivienne • Ferelden: Alistair/Cousland (Romanced) • Orzammar: Bhelen • lol i figured Vivienne was a good choice as divine cuz she knows how to play the game plus she knew there needed to be a balance between Templar and mages
@@fablebrook2 I appreciated Vivienne as a character, but I viewed her as rather less compassionate than Leliana or Cassandra. Her being a mage carried the negative of being viewed as less legitimate by those prejudiced against mages. That would have been more than balanced out by the social step forward for mages, except that in practice I felt she was the most anti mage rights of all three, wanting to force the mages back into a comparatively disempowered Circle. She simply wanted to be the exception. All the cons of choosing a mage with none of the pros. She's even worse for the templars, as they don't accept her because she's a mage and she crushes them. I viewed Cassandra as the moderate choice, and Vivienne as the anti mage choice. A softened Leliana was committed to equality and peace for everyone, she was the 'puppies and sunshine' choice. That's hard to pass up! Hardened Leliana would be my 2nd pick. I definitely favor the mages (except for the magesterium), as they've been discriminated against in most of Thedas for some time, and as being a mage is an inherent trait. I'm right there with you on all of your other choices! I can't get down with Harrowmont at all, I'd rather have the guy who killed his father rule than the guy who would exterminate the most vulnerable group in his society if he could.
@@Chokah I only recruited her once and I couldn't stand the btch, and my final world state is much better without her, the college of mages and the circle coexisting in relative peace, from then I dont even bother going to her party.
Are we missing some of the epilogue endings in here? I could've sworn I had one where Morrigan said something about how the Inquisition proved itself powerful by defeating the Grey Wardens and something along those lines.
Becky Walker Yea nothing like the two people that had an elven alianage slaughtered getting back together! It's just so beautiful when two evil beings kill people, betray each other and kill one another.
A Circle and a College! You'd think that would pacify certain people. Mages can choose which one to join, that's nice. NOPE! LET'S GO TO WAR WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE REASONS! UGH! WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SO DIFFICULT? JUST STOP FIGHTING EACH OTHER JESUS CHRIST.
@@sekkai_ True. She is privilegiem as fuck. She was raised in a Circle in one of the wealthiest countries on Thedas that happens to have the custom to hire mages as arcane advisors for nobles and is protected by the duke and the empress, it’s easy to her to say “The Circles are perfect”. I really doubt a mage from the Kirkwall Circle, were Templars verbally and physically abuse mages, Tranquils commit suicide to escape those conditions, etc... would agree with her.
It is like rl. People can't life without drama, drama results in fights and fights in vengeance and vengeance in war. And since it is a medieval setting war is often bloody.
Did you actually manage to get the balanced epilogue where Morrigan says "It trades in secrets as easily as it does favors. Its military might is feared, and its power is without question" or is that just audio files extracted from the game? If you did manage to get that specific ending, it would be awesome if you could say how, because I've heard that it is unobtainable.
It's about the war table operations thingy... Balanced between Secrets, Connections and Forces delegations... :) You must choose the appropriate advisor for each operation. It's a little tricky. --- >_< there was one time that I had to use the game editor just to make it balanced. Heeheehee I cheated.
Wait, that’s supposed to be incredibly difficult? I just chose which advisor seemed appropriate for the descriptions given, with no regard to time restraints. Of course, this was on a replay.
I'm a bit late to videos here but I enjoy watching them. If I had one little bit of criticism it would be that I havent had a lot of these and ive completed the game 5+ times, so it would be cool if at the side of something you had a sentence or a few words to describe which choice led to that particular line of dialogue?
Leliana is surely the best Divine from a moral perspective, though I like the other two as well for different reasons. Most people don't like Vivienne as a companion, but I appreciate the facilitation for players who want to play mages who are in favor of the Circle system.
@@amineyakhafallah1872 She only sends assassins if you encourage her to be more ruthless during her various moral choices throughout the game. If you encourage her to show mercy, she becomes a peaceful Divine who convinces people to maintain harmony even as she instates controversial policies. And her policies are the best out of any of the Divines since she pushes for equality for men, non-humans, and mages within the Chantry and by extension everywhere in Chantry-controlled society.
@@meganbarhorst5272 yet that inding will tear the chantry apart , why people only listen to the good part while ignoring the bad part . Her ending gonna lead to another war eventually . Because not everyone share or want her idea she is just imposing it on everyone .
@@amineyakhafallah1872 You know she has to get voted Divine for that ending, right? Like, the people may not always like her decisions, but she was rightfully elected to make those decisions. She's no more forcing her will on people than Cassandra or Vivienne if they had won.
Adam Bridson because Inquisition is not like Origins or DA2 or the DLCs. in Origins and 2 you are not building a force to change the war. In Orgins you are Warden that is one of two who survived Ostagar, in 2 you are an escapee of the blight who happened to have very good luck. While Hawke and the Warden changed the world they were not an entire army that was formed at the Divine's request. while focusing the companions would have been a nice touch the epilogue focused on how the acts of the inquisition reflect on the world and the Mage Templar war.
Bex in Idaho Inquisition is every bit like Origin. An individual is bestowed with an ability, an ability only they can use, that will aid in defeating the big bad. This individual then proceeds to build an army to fight said big bad, in the process the individual must make decisions which will have an affect upon the whole of Thedas. The difference is that everyone said goodbye in Origin and the player could decide whether a character stayed or left in Inquisition, even if it only said this character stayed with the Inquisition it still would have been enough. But, Bioware won't do that because with exception to Varric and Ogrhen, no companion character has returned in the following game. So, yes Bioware focused on the events within the story, but knowing just a little about what these characters do next would have been appreciated.
Adam Bridson But you are forgetting a crucial difference between Origins and Inquisition. In Origins you rely on treaties to build your force, but in Inquisition it is about influence. I agree it would have been nice to know a little about what happened to the companions but such is life.
I am just crossing my fingers that this means their continued existence in the next game is very likely. Cause it definitely means the creators made sure to have an open way to do anything with them, whichever way they find.
6:55 on the wiki they have a similar ending but without the puppet part. (The empire's ties to the Inquisition remain strong, both sides benefiting from the ongoing relationship. The alliance meets with the approval of Celene's subjects, who see it as a necessary move within the game. Orlais prospers, and soon forgets that it could very easily have been otherwise.) Is there a way to get this ending or was it a mistake??
I just hope in DA4 that Fenris, Isabela and Merrill makes a cameo at least, Bethany/Carver Hawke return as companions (And have different persona whether they were in the Grey Wardens or Circle Mage (Bethany) or Templer (Carver)
The whole Hawke family could die (Father: Dead, Mother: Horrible death in DA 2, Brother / Sister: Being killed in the beginning of DA 2 / Tainted and died in deep roads, Hawke: Dead in the Fade). So I doubt Carver or Bathany would make a return.
Well my guess is that the major plot of DA:4 will have a huge part to play in Tevinter! I think it's the only Kingdom with enough magical knowledge to stop Solas 🤔 And if it's true, we're definitely going to see Fenris since he went on a man hunt chasing after magisters 😊
Inquisitor: Vivienne, what do you wanna be? Vivienne: I wanna be Divine. Inquisitor: Aww 😊 Vivienne: So I can make slavery legal again! Inquisitor: Aww! 😰
I would like to see dragon age iv takes place in teventor, having a magister apprentice must change their home to be better while the inquisitor gather forces.
+Ben Harrison It is very unlikely that Bioware will stop at four games. There is too much of Thedas to explore and too many mysteries to answer to. I can see at least two more games, and maybe another animated movie. As to the country where the next DA will take place, it is most likely Tevinter, as hinted in the Tresspasser. Generally speaking it is time for the north to be explored.
Michał Laszuk Didn't know about trespasser at time of that comment, I agree it will likely have at least another game after 4 possibly to do with the qunari unless they are a major antagonist in 4
defintly tevintar and we will without a doubt see the quanri a lot givin that tevintar and par vollan are constantly at war, however I think there is going to be something big that happens with the grey wardens in weishaupt, maybe something that involves the awakened Darkspawn............honestly there is a lot to cover
According to the Wikia wiki (maybe take with a grain of salt), the Silver Shield happens if: Cullen quits lyrium, Vivienne becomes Divine (of course), and the Seekers aren't rebuilt (otherwise they'll join them instead). The Bright Hand will exist if the mages are conscripted and either Leliana or Cassandra is Divine. The actual Bright Hand will change for either: if Leliana, it's a college part of the Inquisition said to represent the best of mages to many, while with Cassandra it's a new college in the Circle of Magi, which pushes for reform leads to the rumours of a split within the Circle.
I believe it happens when you conscript the mages, instead of recruiting them, assuming Leliana is the Divine; with the mages as allies, the mages establish the College of Enchanters.
I like how regardless of what happens with the Templars, they for the most part end up pretty well adjusted (which is better than what the Mages get for a few of their endings). I think it's a nice tidbit to have.
oh wow I didn't realize there were 3 different options for Leliana when she becomes divine. What choices make her succeed in negotiations vs letting the chantry fracture?
dont let her assassinate people in conversation options get her to keep to the 'softened' version of her from Dragon age: Origins. Don't let her kill the cleric later on. Then to get her to be divine, make briala control orlais free the mages, keep the wardens and dont support anyone else as a candiididate for divine
Claus Øder Hjortkjær true and I would hate to repeat history by forgetting Wardens but they did kill many innocents and used demons as an army we still have them just not officially
How does Alistair leading the Warden rebellion and Hawke survive in the same ending? Didnt you have to choose between the two? Or is this an ending if Alistair is king?
Gaspard really seems like the best option if you handle it right. When he settles disputes with Ferelden and fortified the Tevinter border. That's exactly what Orlais needed, a strong dictator(considering how Orlais works). Unless Ferelden decides to invade Orlais now, but I can't see Alistair allowing that.
I honestly prefer to let Celene die and let Briala control Gaspard. I think Briala will be instrumental against Solas, and I wish her or Duke Cyril would be playable next game. I absolutely despise Celene and Orlais culture, and both with Celene and Briala or Gaspard and Briala, most elves will be with Solas; however, Briala is against the dread wolf, and still has her network of spies. Leliana, Briala and Varric's spies together against the dread wolf? Yes, please.
she is an elf , she will be with solas side as all elf that infiltrated the inquisition because all elf have everything to gain from his plan , only the other races will loose from his plan
I think that if any future DLC about the grey wardens will involve the grey wardens fighting against "red wardens", grey warden recruits who were made to use red lyrium in the joining instead of regular lyrium. I don't know for certain but it seems likely.
Leliana's rule will undo all of Andraste's work to curb the mages' tyrannical ambitions and ensure they no longer oppress the people, as it is in Tevinter and Nevarra. Vivienne's rule will create a precedent for mages to rule over a faith that fought for centuries against mages holding positions of power in order to free people from their tyranny forever. Plus, she doesn't make the necessary reforms, implying all the problems that caused the Mage-Templar War will return, with interest. Cassandra is the only one that restores order while avoid falling into the problems of old. She carries out the necessary reforms for the main institutions - the Chantry, the Circle and the Templar Order, has a strong moral compass, isn't naive or overly ambitious, like Leliana and Vivivenne, is flexible enough to accept advice when necessary, and has a good grasp of the situation in Southern Thedas to know what best policies to follow. All in all, I always support Cassandra as the new Divine.
To be honest, it would be better if, instead of Stroud, we had one of the Hawke siblings. Can you imagine having the drama of choosing which sibling would die? Having to choose between Bethany or Hawke, or Carver (love him) or Hawke. I think it was a missed opportunity.
Here’s what I got Leliana is new divine and quickly defeats new sects Celene is on the throne and gaspard is defeated but elven assassins are abound Icy receptions greet the Inquisition Mages leave Inquisition and form the circle of magi Inquisition strength is in secrets
who is the person that is with Morrigan at the end of the video? Because i finished the game several times and i have never seen him or her at the end. Please help i want to kwon so badly XD.
So, Big Spoilers for Origins: It's probably her kid. I'm guessing it depends on the world state you have. If your Warden allowed the Dark Ritual to happen back in Origins in order for Morrigan to get pregnant and that neither you, Alistair or Loghain dies in the end; then she's going to have her son with her. I couldn't load my old game into this one so I got her leaving alone on that card because the Warden is dead by default.
@@Celichan905 well, when i played origins, Dragon age 2 and 3 on PS3 and then playing inquisition on ps4 and aparently not having an acount to save my previous choices affected my gameplay, because i was Young and auspicious about making an acount XD
Viv is privileged in a pampered circle. She has no clue what the more oppressive circles are like. The big problem is that there's no real checks on the templars power over mages. If templars had something akin to a mages harrowing I think I would work out much better.
@@rejvaik00 hardly. They come after anders in awakening despite both Allister's orders AND being in the wardens. Considering the wardens permit blood magic there has to be some immunity in getting recruited.
@@samreddig8819 "Privileged." this argument is so old. I thought people understood Vivienne's character by now. Do you even know the Circle of Magi policies?
I hope Commander Cullen becomes Knight Vigilant since the last one died. I wonder if this is the reason you can only promote Barris to Knight-Commander
Before da 4 comes out, I have to replay this make sure Leliana isn't hardened, and make her divine to put an end the mage prison's... Put Briala and Gaspard in power to tear down Elven alienage's, since Briala's own lover won't even listen to her and do so, so eeff Celene. I messed up and didn't get the scene in the beginning where you tell Leliana "our men are not exposable", so she immediately became hardened, so I made Cassandra divine (no real change in that decision). Saved Celene and put her and Briala together. (Another decision with no significant change). I see now that Gaspard is the better decision even though he's kind of a snake, as long as Brialla has control of him.... Hmmm.
Gaspard is sneaky but he does the work and isn’t a pampered bitch like Celene, I swear she must be the D3 version of. “ meet the Kardashian’s “ Also vivianna tricked me!
Uhm, you need a dragon age keep save with her having a baby in origin to see him. And yes I played trough the whole game a couple of times, I just never downloaded a keep save, only default. (except for my last character which I'm only level 16 with, for now.) :p
Also a late reply, that is a lie, from my experience, Leliana is default divine. You have to talk to cassandra and then do a war operation to support her claim to divine
They're both wrong (I know it's an old comment but whatever), it is a very tricky mechanism: you should ally with the Templars/take the mages as prisoners, banish the grey Wardens, support her as divine and not support, nor mention in the dialogues the divine candidacy to Leliana and Vivienne.
Boh boh i just finished a play through and yet with an alliance with mages and the wardens not in exile i do have Cassandra as Divine! I also did her support quest on the war table :)
Although I think softened Leliana as divine would be kind of a perfect ending, I'm glad I got Cassandra, because it means Leliana can finally reunite with my Warden on her quest to end The Calling 🥺🥺
Me neither. She feigns compassion but she only cares about her own power. She may care about mages but she’d throw them to the dogs if it gave her more power
So Leliana is the best option for Divine. Cassandra just pushes her beloved seekers and templars everywhere just sticking to old ways which proved to be useless 🤷🏼♀️ She will push mages into circles and put templars to guard the door which will lead to new revolution and uprising. Vivienne is probably the worst for Divine due to her selfishness - she wants to divide and conquer - basically do the same as Cassandra but make everyone think that she os the just and mighty one. She pushes mages in circles, sings praise to circles but she herself inly theoretically is a circle mage. So, despite the fact that I really wanted to have a mage divine, Leliana is the best option.
@Maple Lord I agree with you on the mages however not so kuch on elves... Elves have never been truely not free - looked upon, made filun of, criticized, but not oppressed. The dalish are basically doing nothing and just trlling cool stories about the padt which they practically don't have any connection too (they are not "the elvenan" - they are modern dalish who try to prove their absurd actions by "the might of the elders" 🤦🏼♀️) And the city elves... Well, it's they who decided to go and live on human cities 🤷🏼♀️ I highly doubt that if humans went to live in a dalish camp, the dalish would be super hyped about it. Plus elves' life in the city is not that different from the lives of himan refugees or poor human families - humans just not yell around that "it'd because they are elves!!!" In a nutshell while mages are oppressed from the very childhood just because they were born, the elves just want to be important and get back their power. unlike mages elves are not forced to live in a small confined place with no provacy whatsoever, they are not constantly looked upon, controlled and punished. They are not put in solitary confinement for attempting to flee the elfinage or dalish camp. They are not made tranquil to rape and do whatever someone wants. They can love, marry and have children - which won't be taken away instantly after birth. Yes, elves have their problems but these problems are mostly basic problems of poor people in big cities. What for Solas, I doubt that it'll come to him rising - he'll probably be one of the antagonists in DA4 sooo the point of the game will be to stop him - thus he will be stopped. And as for his rising - it's absurd and just is what it is - a strive for power for one person, who hides behind "poor elvenan". I never was a fan of elves bit always tried to help them and make exceptions. However after the Trespasser thing where all elves betrayed the people, Inquisition, all their friends who helped them, basically all of Thedas just to tell stories about their "mighty elvenan past" - I felt repulsed. From that moment I hugely question everything which involves elves and would be very happy if there will be an option to punish all the clans and city elves who supported Solas in DA4.
Fun fact: If you sided with the templars, AND asked Cassandra to rebuild the Seekers, Divine Victoria will always be Cass, even if Leliana or Vivi has more points. As in the epilogue, the slide about templars will always mention that the templars joining the rebuild of Seekers with the guidance of the Divine, and that could only be Cass.
... This isn't true, though? On my most recent one, I recruited the Templars and had Cassandra rebuild. But Viv became Divine. But my Inquisitor was also romancing her and basically begged her not to become Divine at every possible turn.
Gaspard reconciliates with Ferelden!!! to join forces against Tevinter!! wow, and second, I FEEL ROBBED, they robbed the soul of an ancient god away for the kid...
Honestly I like Vivian's idea of remaking the circles just with less restrictions they do need to be watched hawks mother will attest to that... she is a little too militaristic and bloodthirsty for my taste though.
+jaredkidd1 What about her? She makes a lot of sense with her reforms. Mages SHOULD be put back in circles. Of course to some the circles are like prison, but don't forget the fact that thanks to them mages can learn to use their powers to good use. Where else? Plus, after the uprising in Kirkwall and the desturction of chantry people are afraid, as they should be. Circles need to be back, so the people can feel safe and eventually regain their trust in mages. The chantry also needs to be back as it is what unites the nations of Thedas the most. Let's not forget that Vivienne, although a mage, knows the value of templars and knows they are a powerful tool, if used properly. Mages have to be watched over, as they remain a threat, no matter the training. With templars held on a leash by Vivienne, they will certainly do more good than before. Vivienne is a very strong candidate, who recognizes the value of some changes, and is an accomplished player of the Game, which will definitely prove useful.
Michał Laszuk I prefer Lelianna's approach of allowing mages into the chantry. By allowing them to have a say in the organization that is lording over them, you have a better shot at regulating mages without Oppressing them like the templars and the chantry have done in the past. I get what you are saying and you make a good point but Viv is such a hypocrit. She acts like the injustices to mages aren't real and that the whole Mage-Templar war was the mages fault. Try and think from the point of view of the mages, they've been chucked into a tower against their will and told their entire lives that they are a threat. They are constantly surrounded by trained killers in full armour that are ready to kill them at a moments notice.
best ending is cassandra ( golden age ) because she is moderate , she is a reformer and know the right midle ground , while the others 2 go to far and tear the chantry apart plus casandra deserve it she already was the right hand and she is the one who created the Inquisition in the 1st place .
Just you. Blight, Quinari+Remnants, Breach. Characters stay consistent with stories of the previous. It's actually one of the things I felt they did best.
I only came here cus I'm sick of gathering Power points simply to progress the story. 40 power points for the next quest? Ughhhhhhhhhhh nooooooo I'd rather just see the ending then torture myself like this lol
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I just noticed that the choices for the new divine was between a mage, a warrior, and a rogue. Hahaha
Interesting.
except the mage is anti mage freedom. how ironic. priviliged B*ch thats what vivienne is.
@@MagnaGresh or she realizes the dangers to mages if they are not protected.
She doesn't. She really doesn't care about her fellow mages and Solas says that in their banter. She wants Circles back, cause she had power. And mages in circles protected? Last time I played Origins and DA2 the mages were abused in Circles, not protected.
@@Hjalmar_an_Craite It showed where the circles went wrong. She admits that some are bad but when they worked they are great.
Cassandra: Reform
Vivienne: Restore
Leliana: REVOLUTIONIZE (DABS)
I'd support Leliana) I always pick mages
I always pick Leliana. Cassandra is also a good choice but she clearly would prefer to be Lady Seeker. Vivienne is a would-be tyrant.
Cringe
As someone who romances cassandra, glad her and the inquisitor are still even if there can't be official ceremonies for marriage ot a relationship. Still, glad she can still get busy on her down time
@@Falxifer95 Vivienne is a Tevinter Magister masquerading as a strict adherent to the Circle. But we all see her approval when you do shady shit. She's Tevinter to the core.
Claudia Black's voice is perfect as the Morrigan and the final speeches, full of subtle intrigue and mystery
I like how there's a Nug on Leliana's image. A callback to Origins when she found and kept a nug as a pet. 😆
In he tower on the table there's a note about how her pet nugs are doing and i think it gets updated as the game goes on
i just now noticed that there is a nug in lelianas version.
all hail before the holy nug!
schmooples!
If the nug king will is an option for divine, ill vote for him.
What. Five years. And I just noticed after reading this comment.
@@ashkrell741 nugs need more representation in government, so I agree
Wow some many options, and some of them so subtle. Bioware will certainly have it's hands full with the sequel. *crosses fingers*
Andromeda and Anthem are the death of Bioware sadly, know this, most of the talent who made DAI are no longer with Bioware, they're a doomed studio now, unless they get a Drew Karpyshyn level writer or someone like Timothy Zahn, Kevin J Anderson, an awesome writer and top level artists they're doomed, also ditch Frostbite.....
it's too bad that they can't just buy themselves back....make a small game, a RPG just to get back into that and make some money then hire new talent, writers and artists and maybe a tech guy who can build a game engine
I miss the Bioware who made even this game....[my faves are KOTOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect 1]
4 years later and nope :(
@@darthXreven damn. this s really sad
What sequel?
@@darthXreven r.i.p old bioware, it was over after TOR was announced. They stopped doing what made them great.
Trespasser should've had a similar voice over epilogue, instead of small print that may leave the screen too quickly. If Claudia Black was unavailable for Trespasser, have Leliana do it.
Glad to see bioware wasnt exaggerating this time like in ME3 when they said there were a dozen or more possible endings
there are 42 unique endings
Hey DanaDuchy, I think this would be better if you added a description to each of the cards or perhaps an annotation in the top right corner explaining the decisions that lead up to it. I really appreciate you taking the time to find and edit all of the ending together as well though, that can't have been a short affair by any means. I kind of wonder whether The Bright Hand or The College of Enchanters will be better for the world of Dragon Age though, both sound really good but it's One or the Other. I'm also glad that not all Templar Endings result in the Templars directly forcing mages under heel.
Well, Anders would be happy to see leliana’s soft ending
And if Anders is happy I'm pissed.
I hate Anders, I had no problem with killing him after what he did.
@@pearsemolloy9656 I romanced and killed him with my humorous Hawke who uses jokes to deflect the suffering of losing almost everyone who mattered to him, except Carver, who's a GW. But my canon romance is forever Fenris, so....
Inspired Leliana is the best Divine Victoria.
- She dedicates the root of chantry back to charity and helping the people.
- She opens the door of the chantry for all the faithful no matter their races (even Qunari), gender, background. May everyone find peace in the embrace of the Maker.
- She proclaims that Love is the best gift from the Maker, and allows all members of the chantry to develop relationship with others.
- She actualizes the vision of Divine Justinia, and recognises the injustice and long term abuse of the Circle, and allows the freedom of mages to govern themselves.
- And she is still as smart and resourceful as usual.
I know the deadly variant is caused if you kill marjalane
What causes these two?
Listening to the description of the new Divines, I'm starting to think that Leliana's the best for it. (I got Cassandra).
Zenkx Cass
Retbullgivesyouwings Yaassss, Cass!
Zenkx
Cass left me to become Divine.
Heartbreaking , but I think she's the best option :(
Zenkx Yea mages governing themselves doesn't sound too good. Mandatory circles with mages being aloud to leave only when proven themselves seems more appropriate.
SoldierGeneral64
Sarcasm?
I reeeaaally want like a side game or just something where you play as the warden on his/her quest to cure the calling.
Only if they wink and nod to the origins game, by not voicing the Warden. It's the only way to properly do the Warden.
Man i would have desire a DLC focused in older protagonist The Warden in His Quest for a cure and Hawke "special kind of mess when he shows" in Weisshaupt
@@dgrblue4162 I don’t think most people would like that, myself included. After playing the witcher 3, all the mass effect games, da2 and of course Inquisition, voiced protagonists are superior in my eyes and I think most people would agree even if it limits dialogue options slightly.
@@ljay3025 voices protagonists are far inferior
@@GlizzyGoblin757 Depends on the game. I’ve played Pathfinder, POE, Divinity OS 1 & 2 and of course DA Origins. In all of these games the protagonist isn’t voiced and it feels right but with the direction they take Dragon Age with Inquisition, DA4 (and any other DA sequel) HAS to have a voiced protagonist for it to work, the story and vibe all depend on it. If it doesn’t it’d feel like they’re taking a step back or just being lazy.
Here 2020 crying my ass off because idk what to do
lmaooo
Tuff
i for one, started replaying inquisition
There are many ways for each main choice in the epilogue. I'm so excited to hear. Thank you for uploading this :).
Questions and more questions DA4 will have to answer and other personal doubts to discuss (I still have to go through Jaws of Hakkon and Trespasser):
- The eternal question of DA saga: where the hell is going Morrigan (and Kieran) now?
- What is happening in Weisshaupt? Is there going to be a Grey Warden civil war?
- What happens to Hawke and Stroud?
- What happens with the Legend of Ferelden and his/her quest against the Calling?
- What happens with Solas and Flemeth? How is Solas related to the ascent of Corypheus and the Elven Orb?
- Is Corypheus actually ? In the finall battle he seems to have been exiled to the Veil by the Inquisitor and not actually slain, although Iron Bull in the final celebration at Sky Hold says the Chantry was still ''gathering his ashes'' after the battle
- What happens with Shaper Valta and lieutenant Renn? Who steals the latter's corpse from his tomb and why? What is the real nature of lyrium and the titans? Is lyrium in fact the blood of titans?
So excited for DA4, which I'd love to be centered again in our Grey Warden, the character with whom I've enjoyed the most this great saga and whose particular story with Morrigan, Flemeth and the Blight seems to be the most exciting and the real canon for me lol
More than hawke and stroud.
Under the right circumstances stroud can be replaced by Logain or even Allister.
the orb in the game is Solas’, he even says so.
Lol I hope corepheous is the villain in the next game too
Bioware just loves shitting on the Wardens ever since Origins huh?
I like that you included all in the revealed order however it would have been useful to have outcome title and trigger conditions for reference and re-creation.
I like Steeled Leliana as Divine. Who doesn't love a bloody reign of power?
heck yeah
As one famous Bioware character once said: "Lots of ways to help people. Sometimes heal patients. Sometimes execute dangerous people. Either way helps."
Considering she’s only going after people who are against charity, racial equality, and mages and are sending assassins after her, I don’t feel bad for those people.
Who do people like to install as leaders? I've got:
Orlais: Celene/Briala
Chantry: Leliana (softened)
Ferelden: Alistair/Cousland (romanced & unhardened)
Orzammar: Bhelen(/Rica?)
Orlais: Gaspar
Chantry: Cassandra
Ferelden: Alister with Warden as a mistress(elf)
Orzammar: Bhelen
@@rozediana24 cool, cool. I see we both had a King Alistair romance. The only way I like Gaspard is as a puppet for Briala though!
Orlais: Celene/Briala • Chantry: Vivienne • Ferelden: Alistair/Cousland (Romanced) • Orzammar: Bhelen • lol i figured Vivienne was a good choice as divine cuz she knows how to play the game plus she knew there needed to be a balance between Templar and mages
@@fablebrook2 I appreciated Vivienne as a character, but I viewed her as rather less compassionate than Leliana or Cassandra. Her being a mage carried the negative of being viewed as less legitimate by those prejudiced against mages. That would have been more than balanced out by the social step forward for mages, except that in practice I felt she was the most anti mage rights of all three, wanting to force the mages back into a comparatively disempowered Circle. She simply wanted to be the exception. All the cons of choosing a mage with none of the pros.
She's even worse for the templars, as they don't accept her because she's a mage and she crushes them. I viewed Cassandra as the moderate choice, and Vivienne as the anti mage choice. A softened Leliana was committed to equality and peace for everyone, she was the 'puppies and sunshine' choice. That's hard to pass up! Hardened Leliana would be my 2nd pick.
I definitely favor the mages (except for the magesterium), as they've been discriminated against in most of Thedas for some time, and as being a mage is an inherent trait.
I'm right there with you on all of your other choices! I can't get down with Harrowmont at all, I'd rather have the guy who killed his father rule than the guy who would exterminate the most vulnerable group in his society if he could.
Orlais: Celene/Briala
Chantry: Leliana (softened)
Ferelden: Alistair/Anora
Orzammar: Bhelen
First playthrough I got Vivienne out of nowhere. Didn't even know it was possible or how it happened cause Vivienne literally hated my guts.
Vivienne automatically becomes the Divine if it's a tie between Cassandra and Lelianna
@@KuroiAllen Why I prefer not to recruit her.
Viv is my favorite Divine.
@@Chokah I only recruited her once and I couldn't stand the btch, and my final world state is much better without her, the college of mages and the circle coexisting in relative peace, from then I dont even bother going to her party.
@@SeventhheavenDK what a heartless monster
If the divine is not Lelianna the Nug outline can be seen.
You're right! Damn, that's some lazy clone stamp work, lol
Could it mean that Leliana is canon Divine Victoria?
Bioware’s canon is Cassandra
Are we missing some of the epilogue endings in here? I could've sworn I had one where Morrigan said something about how the Inquisition proved itself powerful by defeating the Grey Wardens and something along those lines.
I got the best ending with a peaceful Leliana as Divine. I forget what happened with Orlay but I think Celine is still Empress.
I kept getting murderous Leilana. ‘ a trail of blood flowed out of the chantry’
I didn't know you could get Celene and Briala back together, that's pretty cool
Becky Walker Yea nothing like the two people that had an elven alianage slaughtered getting back together! It's just so beautiful when two evil beings kill people, betray each other and kill one another.
@@kaizenchaosprimordial8945 I know right? magnificent xD
A Circle and a College! You'd think that would pacify certain people. Mages can choose which one to join, that's nice. NOPE! LET'S GO TO WAR WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE REASONS! UGH! WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SO DIFFICULT? JUST STOP FIGHTING EACH OTHER JESUS CHRIST.
that privileged bitch Vivienne
@@sekkai_ True. She is privilegiem as fuck. She was raised in a Circle in one of the wealthiest countries on Thedas that happens to have the custom to hire mages as arcane advisors for nobles and is protected by the duke and the empress, it’s easy to her to say “The Circles are perfect”.
I really doubt a mage from the Kirkwall Circle, were Templars verbally and physically abuse mages, Tranquils commit suicide to escape those conditions, etc... would agree with her.
It is like rl. People can't life without drama, drama results in fights and fights in vengeance and vengeance in war. And since it is a medieval setting war is often bloody.
Did you actually manage to get the balanced epilogue where Morrigan says "It trades in secrets as easily as it does favors. Its military might is feared, and its power is without question" or is that just audio files extracted from the game? If you did manage to get that specific ending, it would be awesome if you could say how, because I've heard that it is unobtainable.
It's about the war table operations thingy... Balanced between Secrets, Connections and Forces delegations... :) You must choose the appropriate advisor for each operation. It's a little tricky. ---
>_< there was one time that I had to use the game editor just to make it balanced. Heeheehee I cheated.
lol I got this ending and I had no idea what I was doing. I didn't even think of it at the time I was like "well ya of course we that good"
Wait, that’s supposed to be incredibly difficult? I just chose which advisor seemed appropriate for the descriptions given, with no regard to time restraints. Of course, this was on a replay.
I just finished the game and got this dialogue
morrigans voice is so nice
I'm a bit late to videos here but I enjoy watching them. If I had one little bit of criticism it would be that I havent had a lot of these and ive completed the game 5+ times, so it would be cool if at the side of something you had a sentence or a few words to describe which choice led to that particular line of dialogue?
Leliana is surely the best Divine from a moral perspective, though I like the other two as well for different reasons. Most people don't like Vivienne as a companion, but I appreciate the facilitation for players who want to play mages who are in favor of the Circle system.
what moral perspective she rule by killing anyone who oppose her ( she send assassin )
@@amineyakhafallah1872 She only sends assassins if you encourage her to be more ruthless during her various moral choices throughout the game. If you encourage her to show mercy, she becomes a peaceful Divine who convinces people to maintain harmony even as she instates controversial policies.
And her policies are the best out of any of the Divines since she pushes for equality for men, non-humans, and mages within the Chantry and by extension everywhere in Chantry-controlled society.
@@meganbarhorst5272 yet that inding will tear the chantry apart , why people only listen to the good part while ignoring the bad part . Her ending gonna lead to another war eventually . Because not everyone share or want her idea she is just imposing it on everyone .
@@amineyakhafallah1872 You know she has to get voted Divine for that ending, right? Like, the people may not always like her decisions, but she was rightfully elected to make those decisions. She's no more forcing her will on people than Cassandra or Vivienne if they had won.
@@meganbarhorst5272 they literally say she is splitting the chantry a part so half of the people dont want her and her decisions .
Weird, I got an ending with Gaspard, but he never forgot his gratitude to me.
Why is there no epilogue options for your followers? I mean even Origin's DLC characters got something.
Adam Bridson because Inquisition is not like Origins or DA2 or the DLCs. in Origins and 2 you are not building a force to change the war. In Orgins you are Warden that is one of two who survived Ostagar, in 2 you are an escapee of the blight who happened to have very good luck. While Hawke and the Warden changed the world they were not an entire army that was formed at the Divine's request. while focusing the companions would have been a nice touch the epilogue focused on how the acts of the inquisition reflect on the world and the Mage Templar war.
Bex in Idaho Inquisition is every bit like Origin. An individual is bestowed with an ability, an ability only they can use, that will aid in defeating the big bad. This individual then proceeds to build an army to fight said big bad, in the process the individual must make decisions which will have an affect upon the whole of Thedas. The difference is that everyone said goodbye in Origin and the player could decide whether a character stayed or left in Inquisition, even if it only said this character stayed with the Inquisition it still would have been enough. But, Bioware won't do that because with exception to Varric and Ogrhen, no companion character has returned in the following game. So, yes Bioware focused on the events within the story, but knowing just a little about what these characters do next would have been appreciated.
Adam Bridson But you are forgetting a crucial difference between Origins and Inquisition. In Origins you rely on treaties to build your force, but in Inquisition it is about influence. I agree it would have been nice to know a little about what happened to the companions but such is life.
You get epilogue slides for all advisors and companions in Trespasser DLC, wich is the true ending to Inquisition
I am just crossing my fingers that this means their continued existence in the next game is very likely. Cause it definitely means the creators made sure to have an open way to do anything with them, whichever way they find.
Woah Schmooples is looking mighty cool in Leliana's art
How come we didnt see Leliana's nug in the game :(
alex derek from what i've heard her Nug died. but it's okay she got another Nug.^^ i hear her Nug is having a few Nuggets. :3
@@ZackExplorer28 nice
6:55 on the wiki they have a similar ending but without the puppet part.
(The empire's ties to the Inquisition remain strong, both sides benefiting from the ongoing relationship.
The alliance meets with the approval of Celene's subjects, who see it as a necessary move within the game.
Orlais prospers, and soon forgets that it could very easily have been otherwise.)
Is there a way to get this ending or was it a mistake??
is there any way to check how many operations each adviser has done so you get the balanced power end? perhaps mods or similar?
I just hope in DA4 that Fenris, Isabela and Merrill makes a cameo at least, Bethany/Carver Hawke return as companions (And have different persona whether they were in the Grey Wardens or Circle Mage (Bethany) or Templer (Carver)
that might not happen due to the option you choose between Hawke and the warden
Not gonna happen. It's possible for both to die, so they won't show up as companions. Cameos? Maybe.
Wyverius Blackfire agreed them as companions is very impractical but cameos will definitely fit in perfectly
The whole Hawke family could die (Father: Dead, Mother: Horrible death in DA 2, Brother / Sister: Being killed in the beginning of DA 2 / Tainted and died in deep roads, Hawke: Dead in the Fade). So I doubt Carver or Bathany would make a return.
Well my guess is that the major plot of DA:4 will have a huge part to play in Tevinter! I think it's the only Kingdom with enough magical knowledge to stop Solas 🤔 And if it's true, we're definitely going to see Fenris since he went on a man hunt chasing after magisters 😊
anyone know how they get the all three end its the lat thing you hear before morrigan talks about how she leaves skyhold knowing it will grow in power
Inquisitor: Vivienne, what do you wanna be?
Vivienne: I wanna be Divine.
Inquisitor: Aww 😊
Vivienne: So I can make slavery legal again!
Inquisitor: Aww! 😰
Wow. I guess I stumbled into a good ending.
I feel pretty good about my playthrough, now. Didn't realize I could have screwed up much worse.
So many endings I have never gotten
Fuck yeah Gaspard!
Next game (presuming they dont wrap it up in a dlc) I say tevinter has to be an area its only fitting for what we can guess will be the last game
I would like to see dragon age iv takes place in teventor, having a magister apprentice must change their home to be better while the inquisitor gather forces.
I'd like to see both Tvinter, Arlathan area and anderfels
+Ben Harrison It is very unlikely that Bioware will stop at four games. There is too much of Thedas to explore and too many mysteries to answer to. I can see at least two more games, and maybe another animated movie.
As to the country where the next DA will take place, it is most likely Tevinter, as hinted in the Tresspasser. Generally speaking it is time for the north to be explored.
Michał Laszuk Didn't know about trespasser at time of that comment, I agree it will likely have at least another game after 4 possibly to do with the qunari unless they are a major antagonist in 4
defintly tevintar and we will without a doubt see the quanri a lot givin that tevintar and par vollan are constantly at war, however I think there is going to be something big that happens with the grey wardens in weishaupt, maybe something that involves the awakened Darkspawn............honestly there is a lot to cover
Didn't know about the Bright Hand and Silver Shield stuff. What choices leads to that happening?
Dunno, I'm just replying to this so I'll be notified when someone who does know replies.
According to the Wikia wiki (maybe take with a grain of salt), the Silver Shield happens if: Cullen quits lyrium, Vivienne becomes Divine (of course), and the Seekers aren't rebuilt (otherwise they'll join them instead).
The Bright Hand will exist if the mages are conscripted and either Leliana or Cassandra is Divine. The actual Bright Hand will change for either: if Leliana, it's a college part of the Inquisition said to represent the best of mages to many, while with Cassandra it's a new college in the Circle of Magi, which pushes for reform leads to the rumours of a split within the Circle.
I believe it happens when you conscript the mages, instead of recruiting them, assuming Leliana is the Divine; with the mages as allies, the mages establish the College of Enchanters.
7:31 I admit, I got a devilish smile at this ending since I was an Elf Inquistor in that playthrough.
I like how regardless of what happens with the Templars, they for the most part end up pretty well adjusted (which is better than what the Mages get for a few of their endings). I think it's a nice tidbit to have.
oh wow I didn't realize there were 3 different options for Leliana when she becomes divine. What choices make her succeed in negotiations vs letting the chantry fracture?
How did you achieve the subtle changes to Orlais and the new Divine endings?
If you turn on Community Contributions, I will correctly caption this!
Thanks, great video! Now I have to go and try to find out what the conditions are for the different endings...
How do you get the Briala ending where the Inquisition has close ties with her?
how do you get the peaceful Liliana option?
dont let her assassinate people in conversation options get her to keep to the 'softened' version of her from Dragon age: Origins. Don't let her kill the cleric later on. Then to get her to be divine, make briala control orlais free the mages, keep the wardens and dont support anyone else as a candiididate for divine
I had no idea there were SO many various endings I wonder if any of this will be tied to DA Dreadwolf!
Not all but some will matter, cause the dread wolf is in tevinter so this part of Thedas is irrelevant there
how did you get balanced ending for Inqisition?
how do you get:
And what of the Inquisition itself? balanced out come?
So gutted that I got the Cassandra ending 😩. Wish I got Lelianas.
Thanks a lot Dana :'3
It's bad what happened to the wardens if you exile them :(
kingsedra Still don't regret that decision.
Claus Øder Hjortkjær true and I would hate to repeat history by forgetting Wardens but they did kill many innocents and used demons as an army we still have them just not officially
How does Alistair leading the Warden rebellion and Hawke survive in the same ending? Didnt you have to choose between the two? Or is this an ending if Alistair is king?
It's 2 different endings. It's just not easy to tell
Gaspard really seems like the best option if you handle it right. When he settles disputes with Ferelden and fortified the Tevinter border. That's exactly what Orlais needed, a strong dictator(considering how Orlais works). Unless Ferelden decides to invade Orlais now, but I can't see Alistair allowing that.
I don’t see that last tho since Gaspard really sucked at the game, he wouldn’t survive the court for long
I honestly prefer to let Celene die and let Briala control Gaspard. I think Briala will be instrumental against Solas, and I wish her or Duke Cyril would be playable next game. I absolutely despise Celene and Orlais culture, and both with Celene and Briala or Gaspard and Briala, most elves will be with Solas; however, Briala is against the dread wolf, and still has her network of spies. Leliana, Briala and Varric's spies together against the dread wolf? Yes, please.
she is an elf , she will be with solas side as all elf that infiltrated the inquisition because all elf have everything to gain from his plan , only the other races will loose from his plan
@@amineyakhafallah1872 I disagree. I don't think she will. She didn't surrender the eluvian willingly and she had the chance to.
Why is Morrigan alone in my ending? She has an old god child in my world. Does her son not appear in the ending picture if he's not a normal mortal?
idk did you talk to kieran
@@cyunt8167 i did
She was alone in mine too
@@brianamcclendon1455 i dont know if its overlooked or signifies that he will eventually leave her mother in the end but didnt discussed it.
@@kingcobra2858 I see in another video its a bug
I like how it seems Trespasser rendered many of them irrelevant, with the Inquisition dissolved and all...
I think that if any future DLC about the grey wardens will involve the grey wardens fighting against "red wardens", grey warden recruits who were made to use red lyrium in the joining instead of regular lyrium. I don't know for certain but it seems likely.
Leliana's rule will undo all of Andraste's work to curb the mages' tyrannical ambitions and ensure they no longer oppress the people, as it is in Tevinter and Nevarra.
Vivienne's rule will create a precedent for mages to rule over a faith that fought for centuries against mages holding positions of power in order to free people from their tyranny forever. Plus, she doesn't make the necessary reforms, implying all the problems that caused the Mage-Templar War will return, with interest.
Cassandra is the only one that restores order while avoid falling into the problems of old. She carries out the necessary reforms for the main institutions - the Chantry, the Circle and the Templar Order, has a strong moral compass, isn't naive or overly ambitious, like Leliana and Vivivenne, is flexible enough to accept advice when necessary, and has a good grasp of the situation in Southern Thedas to know what best policies to follow.
All in all, I always support Cassandra as the new Divine.
How can I make Dagna sit on the golden throne? Ehehehehe😎😏
i recently finished a playthrough...why i don't remember these scenes...did i accidentally skip them ? :(
In mine epilogue, Morrigan is alone
To be honest, it would be better if, instead of Stroud, we had one of the Hawke siblings. Can you imagine having the drama of choosing which sibling would die? Having to choose between Bethany or Hawke, or Carver (love him) or Hawke. I think it was a missed opportunity.
Here’s what I got
Leliana is new divine and quickly defeats new sects
Celene is on the throne and gaspard is defeated but elven assassins are abound
Icy receptions greet the Inquisition
Mages leave Inquisition and form
the circle of magi
Inquisition strength is in secrets
From each slide which is the good option?
Maybe it's Leliana (if done correctly)
I know I'm late
None? Everything in Dragon Age tends be grey.
Why does leliana get a nug?
who is the person that is with Morrigan at the end of the video? Because i finished the game several times and i have never seen him or her at the end. Please help i want to kwon so badly XD.
So, Big Spoilers for Origins: It's probably her kid. I'm guessing it depends on the world state you have. If your Warden allowed the Dark Ritual to happen back in Origins in order for Morrigan to get pregnant and that neither you, Alistair or Loghain dies in the end; then she's going to have her son with her. I couldn't load my old game into this one so I got her leaving alone on that card because the Warden is dead by default.
@@Celichan905 i have considered that opcion because i played origins bit saddly i havent played the DLC of founding Morrigan and her son :'(
@@adrianlira883 That might have to do with it then, if you never meet them in game then there's no real point showing him in the card
@@Celichan905 well, when i played origins, Dragon age 2 and 3 on PS3 and then playing inquisition on ps4 and aparently not having an acount to save my previous choices affected my gameplay, because i was Young and auspicious about making an acount XD
FUCK YEAH GASPARD
I always go with leliana as divine
She seems to have the best intentions for the future
Not saying Cassandra doesnt
It takes a mage to be able to control mages, I always make Vivianne the divine
Viv is privileged in a pampered circle. She has no clue what the more oppressive circles are like.
The big problem is that there's no real checks on the templars power over mages. If templars had something akin to a mages harrowing I think I would work out much better.
@@samreddig8819 I think a MAGE governing over templars as Divine is a perfectly good _check_ to templar mage relations
@@rejvaik00 hardly. They come after anders in awakening despite both Allister's orders AND being in the wardens. Considering the wardens permit blood magic there has to be some immunity in getting recruited.
@@samreddig8819 "Privileged." this argument is so old. I thought people understood Vivienne's character by now. Do you even know the Circle of Magi policies?
@@samreddig8819 "privileged" seems like you don't understand Viv's character
I hope Commander Cullen becomes Knight Vigilant since the last one died. I wonder if this is the reason you can only promote Barris to Knight-Commander
Before da 4 comes out, I have to replay this make sure Leliana isn't hardened, and make her divine to put an end the mage prison's... Put Briala and Gaspard in power to tear down Elven alienage's, since Briala's own lover won't even listen to her and do so, so eeff Celene. I messed up and didn't get the scene in the beginning where you tell Leliana "our men are not exposable", so she immediately became hardened, so I made Cassandra divine (no real change in that decision). Saved Celene and put her and Briala together. (Another decision with no significant change). I see now that Gaspard is the better decision even though he's kind of a snake, as long as Brialla has control of him.... Hmmm.
Gaspard is sneaky but he does the work and isn’t a pampered bitch like Celene, I swear she must be the D3 version of. “ meet the Kardashian’s “ Also vivianna tricked me!
Who's that little guy behind Morrigan at the end?
Cedric Berthiaume Dude, that's her son! Didn't you play the game all the way through?
Uhm, you need a dragon age keep save with her having a baby in origin to see him. And yes I played trough the whole game a couple of times, I just never downloaded a keep save, only default. (except for my last character which I'm only level 16 with, for now.) :p
Her son, if you choosed to make the pact with her in origins! =)
It's her kid. He doesn't exist in some keeps.
How do you make Cassandra the new divine?
Megan Irwin late reply, but cassandra is basically the default divine. you really don't need to do anything, or support anyone.
Also a late reply, that is a lie, from my experience, Leliana is default divine. You have to talk to cassandra and then do a war operation to support her claim to divine
They're both wrong (I know it's an old comment but whatever), it is a very tricky mechanism: you should ally with the Templars/take the mages as prisoners, banish the grey Wardens, support her as divine and not support, nor mention in the dialogues the divine candidacy to Leliana and Vivienne.
Boh boh i just finished a play through and yet with an alliance with mages and the wardens not in exile i do have Cassandra as Divine! I also did her support quest on the war table :)
@@LoganCChaix yeah, that happened to me too even though I wanted Leliana as Divine
I'm letting the queen die next time.
Although I think softened Leliana as divine would be kind of a perfect ending, I'm glad I got Cassandra, because it means Leliana can finally reunite with my Warden on her quest to end The Calling 🥺🥺
I wouldn't make Vivian dog-catcher of the Inquisition.
Me neither. She feigns compassion but she only cares about her own power. She may care about mages but she’d throw them to the dogs if it gave her more power
Yeah, she can clean up after Leliana's birds and nugs! haha!
Lilyana
Where was the Briala and Celene reconciliation ending?
So Leliana is the best option for Divine.
Cassandra just pushes her beloved seekers and templars everywhere just sticking to old ways which proved to be useless 🤷🏼♀️
She will push mages into circles and put templars to guard the door which will lead to new revolution and uprising.
Vivienne is probably the worst for Divine due to her selfishness - she wants to divide and conquer - basically do the same as Cassandra but make everyone think that she os the just and mighty one.
She pushes mages in circles, sings praise to circles but she herself inly theoretically is a circle mage.
So, despite the fact that I really wanted to have a mage divine, Leliana is the best option.
@Maple Lord I agree with you on the mages however not so kuch on elves...
Elves have never been truely not free - looked upon, made filun of, criticized, but not oppressed.
The dalish are basically doing nothing and just trlling cool stories about the padt which they practically don't have any connection too (they are not "the elvenan" - they are modern dalish who try to prove their absurd actions by "the might of the elders" 🤦🏼♀️)
And the city elves... Well, it's they who decided to go and live on human cities 🤷🏼♀️ I highly doubt that if humans went to live in a dalish camp, the dalish would be super hyped about it. Plus elves' life in the city is not that different from the lives of himan refugees or poor human families - humans just not yell around that "it'd because they are elves!!!"
In a nutshell while mages are oppressed from the very childhood just because they were born, the elves just want to be important and get back their power.
unlike mages elves are not forced to live in a small confined place with no provacy whatsoever, they are not constantly looked upon, controlled and punished. They are not put in solitary confinement for attempting to flee the elfinage or dalish camp.
They are not made tranquil to rape and do whatever someone wants. They can love, marry and have children - which won't be taken away instantly after birth.
Yes, elves have their problems but these problems are mostly basic problems of poor people in big cities.
What for Solas, I doubt that it'll come to him rising - he'll probably be one of the antagonists in DA4 sooo the point of the game will be to stop him - thus he will be stopped.
And as for his rising - it's absurd and just is what it is - a strive for power for one person, who hides behind "poor elvenan".
I never was a fan of elves bit always tried to help them and make exceptions. However after the Trespasser thing where all elves betrayed the people, Inquisition, all their friends who helped them, basically all of Thedas just to tell stories about their "mighty elvenan past" - I felt repulsed.
From that moment I hugely question everything which involves elves and would be very happy if there will be an option to punish all the clans and city elves who supported Solas in DA4.
I pick Cassandraas the new Divine...because she was the most selfless.
What happens if you let Calpernia rebuild Tevinter?
Probably nothing in DA:I, but I believe we will see her in Dragon age 4, maybe as a companion
Boh boh Assuming Corypheus let her live
@@about45otters81 I hope so
If I’m not mistaken she fights Corypheus as you enter the Mirror thingy. Most highly likely killed off by him.
Fun fact: If you sided with the templars, AND asked Cassandra to rebuild the Seekers, Divine Victoria will always be Cass, even if Leliana or Vivi has more points.
As in the epilogue, the slide about templars will always mention that the templars joining the rebuild of Seekers with the guidance of the Divine, and that could only be Cass.
... This isn't true, though? On my most recent one, I recruited the Templars and had Cassandra rebuild. But Viv became Divine. But my Inquisitor was also romancing her and basically begged her not to become Divine at every possible turn.
Somehow I did that and still got Leliana as the Divine
Gaspard reconciliates with Ferelden!!! to join forces against Tevinter!! wow, and second, I FEEL ROBBED, they robbed the soul of an ancient god away for the kid...
I am not political so you are free to guess who I sided with in Origins, II, and Inquisition.
Honestly I like Vivian's idea of remaking the circles just with less restrictions they do need to be watched hawks mother will attest to that... she is a little too militaristic and bloodthirsty for my taste though.
Is it me or the image when you sided with the mages show Calpernia.
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Fucking Viviaanne
+jaredkidd1 What about her? She makes a lot of sense with her reforms. Mages SHOULD be put back in circles. Of course to some the circles are like prison, but don't forget the fact that thanks to them mages can learn to use their powers to good use. Where else? Plus, after the uprising in Kirkwall and the desturction of chantry people are afraid, as they should be. Circles need to be back, so the people can feel safe and eventually regain their trust in mages. The chantry also needs to be back as it is what unites the nations of Thedas the most. Let's not forget that Vivienne, although a mage, knows the value of templars and knows they are a powerful tool, if used properly. Mages have to be watched over, as they remain a threat, no matter the training. With templars held on a leash by Vivienne, they will certainly do more good than before. Vivienne is a very strong candidate, who recognizes the value of some changes, and is an accomplished player of the Game, which will definitely prove useful.
Michał Laszuk
I prefer Lelianna's approach of allowing mages into the chantry. By allowing them to have a say in the organization that is lording over them, you have a better shot at regulating mages without Oppressing them like the templars and the chantry have done in the past.
I get what you are saying and you make a good point but Viv is such a hypocrit.
She acts like the injustices to mages aren't real and that the whole Mage-Templar war was the mages fault.
Try and think from the point of view of the mages, they've been chucked into a tower against their will and told their entire lives that they are a threat. They are constantly surrounded by trained killers in full armour that are ready to kill them at a moments notice.
best ending is cassandra ( golden age ) because she is moderate , she is a reformer and know the right midle ground , while the others 2 go to far and tear the chantry apart
plus casandra deserve it she already was the right hand and she is the one who created the Inquisition in the 1st place .
Is it just me or are the story getting mush together. And it becoming hard to keep track of
Just you. Blight, Quinari+Remnants, Breach. Characters stay consistent with stories of the previous. It's actually one of the things I felt they did best.
Urgh, Vivienne is so perfect, her mind.
Vivienne is the worst divine by far
ikr
YUP!
So, it is not worth playing, as it is history-repeats-itself, as in the two predecessors... #DragonAge
Yeah but if you play your cards right you end up as a super power
I only came here cus I'm sick of gathering Power points simply to progress the story. 40 power points for the next quest? Ughhhhhhhhhhh nooooooo I'd rather just see the ending then torture myself like this lol