Thank you for making the rotation so understandable! I feel like other people didn't explain simple things like if I should keep applying festering wounds or not. Hope you make an updated guide for war within unholy!
Hey, i wanted to tell you that im SUPER NEW to dk , i leveled up as blood to get faster q and was planning to play unholy/blood in m+ i was having a blast playing blood and was so fun, when i switched to unholy it was sooo messy and i didnt know what to press, eveytime i was the bottom of the bottom even the healer did more dps than me, i looked in videos but none helped me and explain the rotation like you did. i was truly going to delete this char but before i did i searched for guide what to do for the last time, and i got into your video im happy to tell you that after i watched the video, i practiced on the rotation and now im doing well and im sooooo happy with the class im having so much fun now Thank you for helping me getting my main for season 3! even if the video helped only for me. it was worth it THANKS ALOT you earned a new sub!
Never played DK, now i just insta leveles one to 70 with my War Within buy. This is exactly what i was looking for, complete, clear, detailed and easy to follow. Thank you so much
Biceps you are the best at doing guides for DK's dude. I understood it, going to re-watch it some more in order to remember it but damn bro thanks a lot for making it easy!
It's crazy how the spec with the most cds has 2 core rotations you have to juggle st and aoe are completely different buttons on top of a crap load of cds and buff/dot uptime. I feel like you need a razor 18 button mouse and a crap ton of add-ons in order to manage the spec 100%. Otherwise you end up being that person who stares at his bars and buffs trying to juggle everything and end up standing in fire and dieing....meanwhile frost is like a 4 button rotation lol
it is a lot to take in at first, but the cd windows kind of become second nature after some practice. Just playing a quick intricate tune on the piano every 3 minutes that is super satisfying once you have finally learned it. while the in-between-cd's rotation is pretty straight forward
@@stebansan agreed. Back when I knew the rotation in SL it was satisfying asf to hit everything perfectly. Also doesn’t hurt to be in the top 5 or so in dps when you time everything right
Thanks for the guide, I've been struggling a bit, so many CDs :). I guess one thing in AoE situations I might have misunderstood is Festering Wounds and Defile. Since it said in the tooltip (when talented) Scourge Strike would hit multiple targets inside Defile, I needed to also keep that up, maybe even multiple targets, since I assume that bursting festering wounds would also give AoE dmg. So in AoE you only use festering wounds when apocalypse is up, and that's it ? You don't keep it active through Festering Strike at all ? Or you let that be done by your Ghoul (that 30% chance) ? Since in AoE situations I see 0 Festering Strikes being used.
how is uh dk now? they got buffed recently, but does it really change much? heared they are still really bad for raids and just in the middle of the pac in m+
TYVM, My thoughts I have dragonflight just got it not sure what version . what IU is that? I Use ELVUI which seems to greatly limit my action bars- I have like 4 short ones at the bottom and two on the right. There are others but not sure what they do I cant add to them. I like yours I greatly appreciate the help, just based on some advice you offer, my DPS is way up. Last night I was SECOND TO LAST instead of LAST in the raid- BEST EVER for me! Maybe I wont get kicked out as much ? I used to just mainly use festering strike and critical strike as they come up back to back and press others at random. I was a warrior class and was used to just hammering with my 2 one hand weapons (now I only have one two-hand). I never knew DK was so much different so I just kept that up no wonder I have no DPS? I dont see some of these in my talent tree esp scourge strike. Ill look in more details doesnt look familiar are they all unholy? That's what my L63 is I dont understand runes and you covered it very fast (little "death score circular thingies"? I dunno what that means). where do you get them? AH? I filtered in the AH for DK runes and the list was very short, and they were very expensive. Which are best for DK? How are they different from TRINKET? Do I install them on a action bar and press them? wHAT Is that action bar you have where items scroll left to right? Never saw that... looks handy whats the diff between buff and debuff? I notice on my screen that icons like "Death coil" are sometimes hightighted with like a moving dash outline. What does that mean? How come other icons that recharge do not have that border? I have one called like "army" that brings up an army of attackers but virulent or soul reaper or I dont think I have. Shouldnt that be in the rotation ?
I've just started unholy about a week ago. This video is super helpful! I've been using Hekili to help me with the rotation but this video deff helps explain WHY i'm doing the things in said rotation. I'm curious to know if you think Hekili is a good way to learn to play unholy or if it misses the mark. Appreciate the video!
Hello, should i prioritise clawing shadows over death coil after the opener? I know that we buff Gary with death coils but my dps falls compared to other UDKs in the raid.
idk whats going on but for some reason my shit is lacking, doing half the dmg I'm simming, and it feels like something happened, bc I wasn't getting these bad number a few weeks ago.
you mention both “soul reaper” and “summon gargoyle” in this, but when i import either the disease or wounds build from IV/WH, neither are specced into. Am I missing something?
I’ve no idea if you will see this or if anyone in the comments will reply, but I’m just returning to the game and am playing this class off a level boost (I know I’m a scrub lol) but! I get the core rotation and struggle with the cooldowns. I really really like your weak auras set up and downloaded the most downloaded DK weak aura already, but I LOVE the way you have yours set up. Im just completely new to setting the auras up and how to do things like that. The way you have them pop up when you need to press them is what I REALLY need. How do I go about doing that?
Hopefully, I didn't miss it, but if you are running to a pack in mythic plus is one festering strike enough to get the benefit from the the 2- p tier with apoc?
Mostly, but obviously without the gargoyle. You're still going to want to send UA and potion with your Army though since it will still be a huge chunk of your damage.
does 126k with cds seem ok for 439 ivl>? i find the bust is decent but when i'm rotating back around to my next Gargoyle my dps tanks to like 50-55k . Im staggering the DT and UA like you showed also.
Is there any working macro to pop everything big? Apocalypse/Army of Dead/Emporered Weapon/Dark Transformation? I need Apoc needs 4 wounds but just get 4 stacks then I wanna spam 1 big button to summon everything can that work? Would save me so much hassle hahah
Yes, there is a macro: play another class then. So much lazyness. You can macro unholy assault with empower rune weapon and gargoyle with Dark transformation
@@lucasl4433 The problem I have with most classes in WoW is they have even more buttons than an UH DK but ill just use GSE again everything always works in there no matter how crazy ur macro
I'd say it's one of those run-dependent cooldowns. If you're pulling a boss every 4 minutes, save it for the bosses, otherwise, just use it whenever you have a priority target that needs to die ASAP. It's basically a single-target nuke, so it's not as valuable in AoE. If you're in a lower-end group, then save it exclusively for bosses.
I rolled a DK for the first time to play the new patch because I want to ge the tier set, do you recommend Frost or Unholy if my goal is to get the 1800 elite set and I'm not that great at pvp? :p
Well they did nerf everyone's tier, shadowflame patch got nerfed as well this is to make sure that we pick up the new tier. So no one will see true class potential till we all get some gear
They nerfed Army and Garg (along with PI and Augie Doggies), but seriously buffed the core rotational abilities and the 45s CDs. UH is better in a vacuum and in PuGs, along with a massive buff to AoE.
@@Dumbass_mtb Are we in season 2? Im talking about letting one of the spec in bad place while buffing other, I didnt like it in s2 and I dont like it now. One will always be stronger, but I dont see the logic in buffing only one when the two arent good
Not much of a 'beginner' conversation if you are talking to characters that are already at end-game (70). What about a beginner that starts at level 10?!? Need to know how to be efficient at levels 36, 59, 65, etc.
For the opener: Gargoyle and Dark Transformation should be used together, ideally in a macro. Sorry about the confusion!
Good luck this tier, Biceps! Thanks for all your help with the DK Community
As a returning unholy player, this helps a ton! Appriciate all your content, keep it up!
Thank you for making the rotation so understandable! I feel like other people didn't explain simple things like if I should keep applying festering wounds or not. Hope you make an updated guide for war within unholy!
Hey, i wanted to tell you that im SUPER NEW to dk ,
i leveled up as blood to get faster q and was planning to play unholy/blood in m+
i was having a blast playing blood and was so fun, when i switched to unholy it was sooo messy and i didnt know what to press, eveytime i was the bottom of the bottom even the healer did more dps than me, i looked in videos but none helped me and explain the rotation like you did.
i was truly going to delete this char but before i did i searched for guide what to do for the last time, and i got into your video
im happy to tell you that after i watched the video, i practiced on the rotation and now im doing well and im sooooo happy with the class im having so much fun now
Thank you for helping me getting my main for season 3!
even if the video helped only for me. it was worth it
THANKS ALOT you earned a new sub!
Never played DK, now i just insta leveles one to 70 with my War Within buy.
This is exactly what i was looking for, complete, clear, detailed and easy to follow. Thank you so much
Been an unholy dk main for a few years but I see biceps video I gotta watch it because I always learn something
Any tips how to get started? This spec looks complicated as hell but I love DK and I'd like to give unholy a shot
@@AbrahamLincoln_apply charges, burst charges, use all CD at same time. Death coil ST epidemic Aoe
Decided to pick up uDK for remix. This was really helpful. Thanks.
Biceps you are the best at doing guides for DK's dude. I understood it, going to re-watch it some more in order to remember it but damn bro thanks a lot for making it easy!
Thanks very much for this begginer guide. Now things are much easier to understand!
Thank you for doing this brother. Really appreciate it.
ty for this! very informative and easy to follow for someone new to the class. appreciate u!
Great video as always
Gj m8, keep up the good work!
It's crazy how the spec with the most cds has 2 core rotations you have to juggle st and aoe are completely different buttons on top of a crap load of cds and buff/dot uptime. I feel like you need a razor 18 button mouse and a crap ton of add-ons in order to manage the spec 100%. Otherwise you end up being that person who stares at his bars and buffs trying to juggle everything and end up standing in fire and dieing....meanwhile frost is like a 4 button rotation lol
it is a lot to take in at first, but the cd windows kind of become second nature after some practice. Just playing a quick intricate tune on the piano every 3 minutes that is super satisfying once you have finally learned it. while the in-between-cd's rotation is pretty straight forward
@@stebansan agreed. Back when I knew the rotation in SL it was satisfying asf to hit everything perfectly. Also doesn’t hurt to be in the top 5 or so in dps when you time everything right
Great video as usual chief
I wa literally watching the 10.1 guide 1h ago lmao. Thanks for the updated one!
Thx really helpful for a WoW beginner
Ty bro, so amazing
Helps much. Its a massiv Info Input for a Classicdegen like me :D
Looks like the most complicated damage spec, so when played properly it seems fair that it should top dps charts
Great guide, would you say this is updated for TWW release?
Not quite no, I'm putting out a new beginner guide in the coming days!
Muchas gracias por el video, lo necesitaba!
thanks for your work!
Thanks for the vid! Just picked up unholy DK as my new main and i need this!!
Thanks for the guide, I've been struggling a bit, so many CDs :). I guess one thing in AoE situations I might have misunderstood is Festering Wounds and Defile. Since it said in the tooltip (when talented) Scourge Strike would hit multiple targets inside Defile, I needed to also keep that up, maybe even multiple targets, since I assume that bursting festering wounds would also give AoE dmg. So in AoE you only use festering wounds when apocalypse is up, and that's it ? You don't keep it active through Festering Strike at all ? Or you let that be done by your Ghoul (that 30% chance) ? Since in AoE situations I see 0 Festering Strikes being used.
You only Festering Strike when you start to run out of defile charges, otherwise you rely on passive woj d generation
Sheeesh, first time back in wow in a couple years so I’ve forgotten most of my rotations, gives me a headache lol
I don’t have most of the spells he’s listing. I’m level 60. Am I missing something?
Tried to macro the CD's in the time sequence you showed, and for they dont all go off for some reason.
Do I spam Outbreak on all targets in group or just one since it spreads? if using epidemic
@@bluejezter99 ideally just use dark transformation with unholy blight to spread. Otherwise single outbreak is ideal
Hello bro, can i translate your guide for cis rigion auditory with all link on you?
Thanks for the video Biceps! What are your thoughts on the damage buffs going into Tuesday? Believe it will put us in a good, competitive spot?
is unholy getting a buff?
@@anders12114yes worth about 3-4% overall
Around 4% buff which is nice, also makes the Defile build less in front compared to the default one!
@@anders12114yeah some minor tweaks only sadly.
Shows blizz is watching and listening tho! They did nerf Aug quite a bit so maybe we can actually get more buffs now w/o being broken
I just see the people doing 200k single target dps, and I wonder how that is possible, its just not even close on my part.
Does he actually say bicepspump when he speaks? Or is it just “bipump” like I really can’t tell
I subbed. Ty
how is uh dk now? they got buffed recently, but does it really change much? heared they are still really bad for raids and just in the middle of the pac in m+
They're fine, won't be among the better specs in the raid but also won't be the worst. Middle of the pack in M+ yeah
Much needed thannk u 😄👍
TYVM, My thoughts I have dragonflight just got it not sure what version . what IU is that? I Use ELVUI which seems to greatly limit my action bars- I have like 4 short ones at the bottom and two on the right. There are others but not sure what they do I cant add to them. I like yours
I greatly appreciate the help, just based on some advice you offer, my DPS is way up. Last night I was SECOND TO LAST instead of LAST in the raid- BEST EVER for me! Maybe I wont get kicked out as much ? I used to just mainly use festering strike and critical strike as they come up back to back and press others at random. I was a warrior class and was used to just hammering with my 2 one hand weapons (now I only have one two-hand). I never knew DK was so much different so I just kept that up no wonder I have no DPS?
I dont see some of these in my talent tree esp scourge strike. Ill look in more details doesnt look familiar are they all unholy? That's what my L63 is
I dont understand runes and you covered it very fast (little "death score circular thingies"? I dunno what that means). where do you get them? AH? I filtered in the AH for DK runes and the list was very short, and they were very expensive. Which are best for DK? How are they different from TRINKET? Do I install them on a action bar and press them?
wHAT Is that action bar you have where items scroll left to right? Never saw that... looks handy
whats the diff between buff and debuff?
I notice on my screen that icons like "Death coil" are sometimes hightighted with like a moving dash outline. What does that mean? How come other icons that recharge do not have that border?
I have one called like "army" that brings up an army of attackers but virulent or soul reaper or I dont think I have. Shouldnt that be in the rotation ?
I've just started unholy about a week ago. This video is super helpful! I've been using Hekili to help me with the rotation but this video deff helps explain WHY i'm doing the things in said rotation. I'm curious to know if you think Hekili is a good way to learn to play unholy or if it misses the mark. Appreciate the video!
Haven't evaluated hekili sorry
@@Bicepspump No problem, I appreciate the response. Cheers!
hey there, im just like you, how has hekili been for unholy?
Hey brother any chance of getting your weak aura for doting and wounds?
My Weakauras are currently a twitch sub perk
Could I just put all CDs in one macro? Since I'm using them all on pull anyways, and that way I could just use the macro every 45 secs?
Could you copy paste your talent tree for mythic plus please?
Hello, should i prioritise clawing shadows over death coil after the opener? I know that we buff Gary with death coils but my dps falls compared to other UDKs in the raid.
Generally prioritise death coil
Why do you not care about festering strike in aoe? Does it not do as much damage as spamming scourge strike?
Nope, scourge strike cleaving is just a lot better
I have question I notice that you have summon gorgyle but in builds I seen nobody takes in M+ any reason?
You sacrifice too much AoE when taking it in M+
hey Bicep! how to select diseases you wanna see on the target and de select others?
You cant with default UI im afraid
@@Bicepspump and which frames add-on you are using in this vid ?
@@sadza18 just default nameplates
@@Bicepspump "You cant with default UI im afraid" / "which frames add-on you are using in this vid ?" / " default nameplates". Are you serious?
See ya then. Can't even help his follower. Unsubscribe
What is that addon that looks like Hekili, or is it Hekili?
Details plugin called actiontracker
@@Bicepspump thank you, cause I am using Hekili and it ignores half my skills. This seemed better but well, it's you :P
idk whats going on but for some reason my shit is lacking, doing half the dmg I'm simming, and it feels like something happened, bc I wasn't getting these bad number a few weeks ago.
That sounds odd, I'd have to see logs to diagnose!
Wounds build viable in sub-25 pug keys when ;_; Blizz need to figure out how to make it playable without making its damage spiral out of control
i checked on the murlok io, and why the "top dk's" didn't use the gargoyle ?
I assume that's for M+ where we don't run gargoyle at all
you mention both “soul reaper” and “summon gargoyle” in this, but when i import either the disease or wounds build from IV/WH, neither are specced into. Am I missing something?
This is aimed towards raid single target. Mythic+ single target is just the core rotation really
If i use disease build does the core rotation change?
Not really no
I feel like with the m+ build my ST is terrible, any tips?
Nope, that's just life
Hey what's your weak auras I suck at dk but love dk
What one is easiest unholy or frost?
@@777Godsgift777 easy in different ways. I think frost is more beginner friendly though
What class would you say has easiest rotation?
@@777Godsgift777 Probably hunter from what I've heard
What armor is that!?
Why do you show summon gargoyle when the talents you say you should use in mythic dont have it specced?
Mythic+? The opener I showed was for raid
I missed that, I heard you talk about mythic plus talents and never heard you switch to here's the raid opener, sorry about that.
Im kinda new int he game, do you recommend to do a macro for the core rotaation?
Not really no, wont do you much good
Anyone know the WeakAura he is using for ability queuing on the left side of the screen?
That's a details plugin, shows you what I've just pressed
And what in a perfect world what stats percents would you want
100% strength
I’ve no idea if you will see this or if anyone in the comments will reply, but I’m just returning to the game and am playing this class off a level boost (I know I’m a scrub lol) but! I get the core rotation and struggle with the cooldowns.
I really really like your weak auras set up and downloaded the most downloaded DK weak aura already, but I LOVE the way you have yours set up.
Im just completely new to setting the auras up and how to do things like that. The way you have them pop up when you need to press them is what I REALLY need.
How do I go about doing that?
Yes it would be nice for u to do a vid on ur weak aura setup
was wondering about the apoc in M+ rotation. is it not as important to have 4 stack before apoc when its aoe?
Not really no
do you not use death coil at all? or only when there is 1-2 targets? so above 2 you use EPD
Just on single target generally
Hopefully, I didn't miss it, but if you are running to a pack in mythic plus is one festering strike enough to get the benefit from the the 2- p tier with apoc?
Yupp
I want to know what the rotation would be in Mythic+ when it's a single target. Would it be the same as in a raid?"
Mostly, but obviously without the gargoyle. You're still going to want to send UA and potion with your Army though since it will still be a huge chunk of your damage.
Much easier compared to raid since the overlap doesn't matter as much. Use Army and then just send all your CDs! Unholy Assault before Apoc
Hi BP what is the addon called that shows you the next priority that you should press?
That's a details plugin showing the buttons I have just pressed, not what I should press
does 126k with cds seem ok for 439 ivl>? i find the bust is decent but when i'm rotating back around to my next Gargoyle my dps tanks to like 50-55k . Im staggering the DT and UA like you showed also.
Hard to say, your DPS will start out high and drop. If you're not doing good damage your burst is probably not quite right
Do you think it could be not having an on use trinket? Or low mastery only got 51%
Is there any working macro to pop everything big? Apocalypse/Army of Dead/Emporered Weapon/Dark Transformation? I need Apoc needs 4 wounds but just get 4 stacks then I wanna spam 1 big button to summon everything can that work? Would save me so much hassle hahah
Yes, there is a macro: play another class then.
So much lazyness.
You can macro unholy assault with empower rune weapon and gargoyle with Dark transformation
@@lucasl4433 The problem I have with most classes in WoW is they have even more buttons than an UH DK but ill just use GSE again everything always works in there no matter how crazy ur macro
Do unholy and frost do equal damage on a casual level? (m20+ and hc/m raids)
I'd say so yes
ST Boss in M+, do you follow the same rotation as ST in raid or M+ AoE?
Follow ST one, it's much easier compared to raid since you have much fewer cooldowns to deal with.
@@Bicepspump Awesome, thank you! 😜
Can the opener be put into a macro or two?
You'd use two macros:
1. Garg + DT + Pot
2. UA + ERW + Triniet
What addon/WA is the rotation on your screen?
hekili
Any macros to help smooth things up, specially that opener 😂
#showtooltip Unholy Assault
/Cast Unholy Assault
/Cast Empower Rune Weapon
/use 13
/shoiwtooltip Summon Gargoyle
/cast Summon Gargoyle
/use Fleeting Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
/use Elemental Potion of Ultimate Power
/use Elemental Potion of Power
@@Bicepspump ty my man, you are the best!!
How are we looking in M+ so far?
They are okay. UH does well with massive pulls but most pug tanks don't do huge pulls anyway.
wait how come your using army of dead in 3 minutes and not 8?
Army of the damned talent reduces army CD by spending Runic Power
Why death and decay ST opener
For the haste
So what are we looking at for Raid ST (optimal not fun wise). Unholy default, unholy defile, frost dw obli, frost dw bos, frost 2h obli?
It's likely to be a mix. Breath is likely to be strong, otherwise unholy default. Defile on some fights
Hey Biceps - was wondering, is AOD not a priority at all in the M+ Disease build?
I'd say it's one of those run-dependent cooldowns. If you're pulling a boss every 4 minutes, save it for the bosses, otherwise, just use it whenever you have a priority target that needs to die ASAP. It's basically a single-target nuke, so it's not as valuable in AoE. If you're in a lower-end group, then save it exclusively for bosses.
@@Kylora2112 Makes total sense - thank you kindly!
100%, use it as much as possible!
I rolled a DK for the first time to play the new patch because I want to ge the tier set, do you recommend Frost or Unholy if my goal is to get the 1800 elite set and I'm not that great at pvp? :p
Unholy
That opener looks rough haha. Definitely a turnoff for the spec.
Or the recipe for the most intricate unique and satisfying specs the game has to offer for others. If you can handle it ofc.
Assasin rogue wants a word w u
@@syzmicalas someone just starting wow this class looks cool
*arcane mages*: "hold my beer"
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Initial testing seems to show a massive nerf. Hopefully wrong but...
Well they did nerf everyone's tier, shadowflame patch got nerfed as well this is to make sure that we pick up the new tier.
So no one will see true class potential till we all get some gear
@@MyBeebles all very good points. Fingers crossed
They nerfed Army and Garg (along with PI and Augie Doggies), but seriously buffed the core rotational abilities and the 45s CDs. UH is better in a vacuum and in PuGs, along with a massive buff to AoE.
I dont get why are they buffing unholy again when it was already better than frost and they dont touch frost at all :/
Frost was way better then unholy in season 2. It’s about time unholy gets a buff.
@@Dumbass_mtb Are we in season 2? Im talking about letting one of the spec in bad place while buffing other, I didnt like it in s2 and I dont like it now. One will always be stronger, but I dont see the logic in buffing only one when the two arent good
Frost is better than unholy as of now for this tier(10.2 season 3)
@@LittlJumbo this tier is only begining, and I dont have seen a single tier list that puts frost above unholy, nor on raid nor on m+
The sooner I say it the sooner Maximun uploads a tier list where frost ranks above xd
We already getting some decent buffs😊
I didnt understand...
I wish UH DK wasn't so boring. And I wish frost wasn't mid
Not much of a 'beginner' conversation if you are talking to characters that are already at end-game (70). What about a beginner that starts at level 10?!? Need to know how to be efficient at levels 36, 59, 65, etc.
This guide was pretty bad like what are even my talents
First
This is now out dated.