I believe Infinity only exists as a concept. If we are able to map something, it has to be finite, because that map has to lead somewhere. You cannot have an infinite map. Unless the 3 dimensions exist as Pi does, where there is no theoretical end because new space and matter is created as we observe it, like when we observe quantum particles. Science is scary when you fear the unknown. The more you study it, the less you know.
He does that on purpose. I really wish he'd stop using such fearful terms to describe Very Big Things. Very Big Things are not inherently scary, because they are slow and easy to avoid.
@@noble6339: Your perspective on life is absurd and depressing. What kind of person needs to be terrified on a regular basis in order to appreciate their life?
Shawn Elliott I’m not terrified on a regular basis I’ve come to accept it we all die some day appreciate the time we have on our blue marble we call earth
Omgosh.. the universe going through that process is like a heart beat. The back n forth in expanding..retracting.. repeat.... wow. And.. seems we are a mirror of this process! Have you seen that timelapse looking at the earth from space going through it's seasons? It looks like it's breathing! A heartbeat. Just wow. We are totally a reflection of the universe and its ways. I realize more now that I am deeply connected to the universe and how it works, as we all are! And this magnificent process, of entropic harmony. Oh my gosh... there it is. After life, there is death.. and then there is life again. There is levels to this madness!!! Wow!!!! Just got tingles alllllll over, my hair is literally standing up.. it was crazy coming to this realization and feeling that energy in that very moment! Tells me I may be on to something 🌠. I've believed for sometime now that we do get to advance to another plane depending on how well we do in this stage, but, your video really helped to put this into perspective for me. So thank you for helping me along my journey!!! 🖖
It only expands, the only equal force on matter and its consequences in our universe is the velocity gained from the big bang, to make the claim the universe of matter is contracting and expanding you need to show evidence of this and the force responsible, all i got ws absurd assertions using ignorance and self entitled insanity in this video , Nothing in it is based on the reality we know at this time.
@@cheherklai4078 most of the universe does not make sense to us, it is not that far fetched to believe there is far more out there, than we can ever imagine.
@@cheherklai4078 and yet it is entirely possible to.imagine a space with absolutely nothing contained within it...I see it like this, space is the canvas upon which the Universe is embedded...in a multidimensional hypersurface...
How about this...a finite Universe within infinite space? I am not saying that is the case, a realistic scenario, merely a thought experiment. I guess the proposal rests on the idea of a finite Universe embedded within an infinite spacetime. Which kind of ties in with Einstein's description of the Universe as being 'finite yet unbounded', in other words curved upon itself. Yet within that curvature there is no actual boundary...which is of course impossible to visualise for the human mind, but has a ring of truth...
When I was a small child at around six years old, I would lie in bed and think about where space ends? It would really freak me out....I just felt like that six year old again.
i was 8 when Armstrong walked on the moon. it blew my mind even though i was watching Star Trek each week! I still remember trippin' on the lack of a sky on the moon, just jet black nothingness mind blown. there are infinite universes probably, of all shapes & sizes, constantly, i guess.
The end of the universe is one of my favourite topics in astrophysics. There's so many interesting ideas to explore, even when the universe is utterly dark, forever chilling. Could you imagine our sun as a black dwarf? No light, no heat, much smaller than its former self. If the gravity wasn't so strong, you could walk on it. Then look up to an utterly black sky. Plenty of matter out there, but no light to see it by. Objects only aware of each other by the gravitational influence they all have on each other. Or much, much later, when all the matter in the universe has fully degenerated and it reaches that point of heat death. No energy, nothing moving, not even a subatomic wiggle. With nothing able to happen ever again, does time even have meaning at that point? What is time without causality? Does it even exist at that point? Some people find all this stuff dark, inhuman and horribly terrifying. I don't. I find it all fascinating and actually a great comfort that we are just an insignificant blip in the grand scheme of things. Suits me. By the time the events above happen (assuming that's how things will happen), humanity will have long since ceased to exist I'm very sure.
@@Just.A.T-Rex Indeed. But imagine a scenario where the universe is so stretched out that no two particles could interact any more... can entropy even increase from there? It's mind blowing to think about.
Humans are like cockroaches, we will find a way to persist. We might not be Homo Sapiens or might even be fully digital or even exist as pure energy, but we'll still be there in some form, you'll see. We're the only species that has managed to survive extinction level events that have wiped out 99% of other species with much, much more primitive lifestyle and no technology. Ultimately, it will get to the point where there really is nothing in the universe except maybe the very end of the universe itself that can really stop us in any way because we learn to control and manipulate matter, energy to more sophisticated and complex levels by the year now, and the speed of our advancement is accelerating. There might even come a point, as we exceed type 3 civilization status that we can control and manipulate dark matter and energy, and as such might even reverse or slow down the big freeze. In the end of the day, the universe is controlled by the microverse. The Quantum level of things dictates what happens in the universe. We're reaching the point of understanding and being able to manipulate the quantum realm to a primitive degree. Give it a few hundred years where we have mastered it - if we master the quantum realm, we master the entire universe because what is the universe? It's a load of quantum particles, fields, waves clumping together to form matter and energy.
@@egonieser If we could travel between the stars and observe other planets, we'd probably find civilisations on those planets that have been destroyed by weapons, war or nature. Ones possibly as advanced or more advanced than ours. What makes you think we are exceptional?
@@666chapelofblood And what makes you think we aren't? Your speculation is as good as mine. Besides I didn't compare us to aliens. I compared us to us. What other species do is their own business. We can only control what we do.
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
Without observing redshift we wouldn't know about the expansion of the universe, and as far as I'm aware would not be able to discover it any other way. It's strange to think that far future civilizations would not even be able to guess that there were once galaxies outside of their own gravity bound bubble and, should they come across what past civilizations had discovered, may assume it was myth as opposed to science. Makes you wonder what we've already missed.
Quazi Stars, the first ever stars, the formation of most of the galaxies in universe, the big bang, the formation of the supermassive black holes, the death of the first stars, a time where the universe was nothing but hydrogen and helium. that's all I could get from searching through my past stars memory's but I'm sure there is more that.
I think we have it documented enough scientifically that it wouldn’t be “lost”. We have the math and physics behind it which could be easily verified. Unless of course the universal laws change at some point in the future…
"Ah, what a beautiful Saturday morning! The possibilities are endless. Oh look, one of those interesting videos by SEA!" (22 minutes later: gunshot sound)
But think about it this way, life would remain interesting if in each iteration of the universe crunching, history would be happening in a very different manner, the humans born in the past iteration would not be born in the next iteration, and our memories would be wiped clean of the past iteration so we would have no memory of the death of the last universe and all previous lives within it. I don't know if the big crunch will happen because the heat death is most widely accepted, but just because something is widely accepted does not mean that it is slated to happen. At the end of the day, all three theories of the universe's ultimate fate are only theories. At best, they give us an understanding of the results of scientific processes. At worst, they scare us to where we don't sleep at night. I'm not asking for you to hold out hope (or continue to) that the Big Crunch will happen, or that the Heat Death should be accepted because I see why some people and scientists don't accept it (Queue Roger Penrose). However, I see that it is comforting because life can go on, but I can also see to your point how it is terrifying because some of us could just merely be tired of popping in and out of existence. If reincarnation truly exists (I'm hoping for that to be true also), then maybe we just think of it as a long sleep between the last breath of our current lives to the first cries of our next lives when we are reborn. We don't want to continually be reborn, but we also don't want to be trapped in a void forever. Existence and consciousness are both just too precious to seize to exist because we don't want to continually experience the realm we are inherently living in, but we don't want to leave it behind either. I'm sorry that it went this long, but this stuff was plaguing my brain a lot, and I wanted to get a lot of this off my chest.
I think heat death will happen and after basically forever the Big Bang will happen again. I think this because of videos I’ve watched on the end of the universe. I refuse to believe we are the first and only.
Hey man, just wanted to tell you I think you're channel is absolutely fantastic. The narration is clear, easy to listen to, and isn't too fast or too slow. I often put your videos on to help me relax on the evenings. Keep doing what you do. We love it!
No. How can space collapse back in on itself if it is expanding faster than light? (Completely incorrect argument from my past self, it's actually impossible due to the fact that the expansion of the universe is accelerating due to the diffusion of matter throughout it, which provided a force which stopped expansion billions of years ago but no longer exists.).
The "crazy sh*t, right?" caught me off guard and had me laughing. Such an unexpected break of character for you as the narrator, since your manner of speech is usually so calm and profound.
When I'm having a bad day or someone pisses me off, I just watch something like this to remind myself that in the end, none of it matters anyway. I don't know if that's the healthiest way to approach life. Probably it isn't. But it works well enough, and learning about these theories is interesting in itself. Thanks for the great videos.
@@bellamaz1972 I get that curiosity and wanting to learn about these kind of things is great and all but I don't see how using it as self-enforced apathy to put off problems could be considered healthy or productive.
@Reptile Disfunction I don't know why, but for some reason what you said struck me as profound. Going to remember it when life starts weighing too heavy on my mind.
I listen to your channel for information and education because they are some of the best produced videos on the platform. That being said, I put them on when I can't sleep, too. I'll queue up something I've watched before, put the phone to sleep, and listen to the audio. I don't mean this as a dig, so please don't take it the wrong way. I often feel anxious about stuff in my job and it keeps me awake at night and I don't get the sleep I need. Your narration is the perfect tone and cadence for my mind to zone in, relax, then drift off. Your work has rescued me from many a sleepless night and helped me perform better the next day. Keep up the good work, man. Channels like yours justify the existence of UA-cam.
SO at some point in time, WE will be the only creatures that know and have recorded what lies beyond the visible universe , If we don't observe as much as we can , no-one later will be able to know !!
@@zimarts6095 What I was thinking is it would be stored just like we do now for our use , and when we go all that knowledge goes with us ! I didnt think about how it can be saved after ??!
@@zimarts6095 YES that would be great ! I just hadnt thought it that far . I meant once its all out of sight ,if we are still around , we only know what has gone over the edge !
@TMAS Greetings Bro. , I was reading your reply and when I clicked on "more " I thought "OH shit , another crazy person " BUT I was wrong . I get what your saying, it is a bit over my head, I admit, But I hope "SEA" gives you a reply ,
One of my favourite youtube videos of all time. That ending with the music blew my mind and heart. Yes, you can try to grasp it all on a mere intellectual level, but you made it somehow tangible.
I used to be scared to even think about how big the universe is but learning actually makes me feel less alone. I believe in the big crunch. Life will keep going and I'm sure we're not the only ones. Be in the moment, enjoy life.
It’s great how you take time. No editing out of breaths (Scishow), no staggeringly fast chattering so as not to ask too much of the impatient youtubers attention span... very good. Big thanks!
Dude I always think that. Like, what is outside of the universe, why is it here. How is it here. It’s absolutely terrifying for a second but then it just makes me kind of emotional
Hey SEA! Can you make a documentary on Milkdromeda galaxy? Like it’s size and stuff like that. Like so SEA can notice. Respect from 🇮🇳 India for uploading this on our Republic Day!
current theories are so fascinating, but i cant help thinking we are still 100,00 years from having a reasonably accurate assessment of how this amazing complex system operates.
@@littlegirlshowSynch Not that you're wrong, but nobody knows if the most likely scenario is the actual case either. Just thought I should put that out there.
@@littlegirlshowSynchand none of these scenarios could be true. To think that we know what could happen. We don’t. We have theories. Who knows, maybe it’s the cycle that the universe dies and then is born again.
I have heard another theory, that, after the big freeze or big rip, when there's nothing but the post-proton decay hanging out there, there is a chance that matter could spontaneously rearrange itself on the quantum level and create matter out of nothing. There's nothing to stop it from happening right now, in fact, but in a near-infinite amount of time after the big (ending), the unthinkably improbable occurs and enough matter accretes in a single place to re-form a singularity and...pow, it all happens again.
If there was matter beforehand, there was something, not “nothing” as you so claimed. For there to be “nothing” before let’s say our own Big Bang, it would only be the work of a God who is eternal, the creator of “beginnings”. But your logic is not wrong, I’m just asserting that there was a point in time where there was literally nothing, nothing to feed off, attract or pull itself into energy/mass by chance to create a singularity or explosion of matter. This is how science brought me closer to God.
Just remember once you die 1 year and 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years doesn’t really have any difference to you as you are not there to observe the passage of time
Yeah. Imagine the possibilities if humanity united as a species. Our current rate of technological advancement, which is already really fast, will expand to unimaginable levels.
I changed my major ever since I got a telescope. I aim to be a big name astrophysicist. Always enjoy watching your videos. Not just informative, but I do enjoy listening to everything you have to say. 😂😂 “crazy sh&+ right?” That was timed perfectly
Haha yeah though, I am so infatuated with and so deep into studying anything astrological, I may not have time for a "normal" life in the future. Not now and probably not ever.. I do not find that depressing at all, but rather thrilling. I plan to get a computerized telescope and customize it in many ways. From it I will do live streaming and interact with my audience. They will be able to see everything I see through my telescope. Going through a 5g connection, I will eliminate any possible lag. With the small audience I will study the stars. It will be a hobby. First I am saving for all of the equipment. I have begun doing so finally. You see, I am not interested in live streaming video games. Not my style.. haven't been interested in that. Though I have uploaded a little gameplay of Subnautica and a call of duty fail. Anyways I am determined to reach my goals.. eventually haha.
I adore your videos. I've watched nearly all of them now, I think. Recently I started a semi-binge on some of your older videos and I chuckled at the bleep around 10:47. You know something about the universe is absolutely mind-boggling crazy if it makes SEA break script formality just to say "that is some crazy shit right there".
This was your second video where I teared up a bit during the ending thoughts. It's really art how you are pouring the priority of the purpose of our earthly lives into words, and subtly opposing it to the inevitable existential dread caused by the discoveries of our cosmos.
I love your optimism, I'm optimistic about the future of us as well. But right now, we can't say anything completely. If Heat Death can be prevented, good. If not, that's fine as well. Sadly, I'll be dead before we learn everything about the Heat Death.
@@piyushmenon4987 look, did Einstein die? His body did. His mind probably did as well. What about his thoughts? They are still with us. Ink on paper, bits in ROM, neural network in other people brains, such stuff is part of eternal space-time.
We're born out of cicles, and so do the universe, the big crunch is my favorite theory so far because exemplifies that, either way I don't think the universe will die in a dramatic way without hope for a new life, rather in a beautiful way, giving birth to a new universe so he can continue the cicle.
It's odd to me that in cosmology there is still a fear or resistance to the idea of "death". Everything else we know of the universe has a beginning, middle and end, but there seems to be a strong desire to view the universe itself as some sort of perpetual motion machine.
Perhaps that’s just the way matter truly is. It’s often toted that conscious beings are are “sensory organs” of the full universe. This way of thought ties us all into the fabric of reality, where there’s no separation. Maybe the fear of death isn’t a simplistic consequence of how we evolved to persist, but rather we’re expressing a fundamental feature of existence itself. Maybe existence inherently “wants” to be.
@@durkadurka5503 it does. It is beautiful. It is sensory. That is what makes existence beautiful, being sensory. It dies, to be born again and every time it is undeniable magic, experiencing at sensory levels. Can we ever learn to protect the magic of being, of knowing, of experiencing?
The resistance to a definite end of everything is reasonable just because of human fear. It's because the big bang happened to begin with that started our universe. What existed long before that to even make such a thing possible and why would that be the only time such a thing could ever happen?
You know your stuff man love your channel. Watch your video on a daily basis. Think I've watched every video you posted more than once. Keep up the amazing work man.
One of the best videos I saw in a long time. I have always leaned towards the big freeze hypothesis but you explained the 4 possibilities so wonderfully!
discovered your channel a couple months ago and iam always very curious when you drop a new video. its always informative and expands my horizon, so keep up the incredible work!:)
First 4 minutes are most concise, best explanation of the expansion of space/time & its implications. Great coverage of the theories about how the universe ends - and interesting to see how similar they are while being caused by such different chains of events
I know it literally will never effect me but the thought of the universe dying and us loosing the ability to see other galaxies gives me insane anxiety.
Thats the beauty about making guesses trillions of years ahead. Its a guess based on data but its variable . we have no fckn.idea whats really gonna be live in 100 weeks . anyway making predictions is easy when nobody will be here to tell u. Uh u were done wrong. Its a theory considering mans mind isnt made for cracking space we r people killing planet wreckers..
As a guy that studies and likes to learn about the universe, the more and more I hear that the "big crunch" is impossible the more and more I believe it will happen. Everytime we look up into space we discover things that question our understanding of existence.
I’d like to believe that, after the universe eventually dies out. Somehow it’ll just begin again. It’s very very unlikely, but I’d like to believe that might happen.
Roger Penrose's conjecture of a conformal cyclic cosmology is for you. Google the term and his name. It's a very provocative idea, but there's really no way to verify it.
SEA I don't know if you'll see this but I would love to know how you obtain all this information. Do you read a lot of books or do a lot of research on the internet? Your videos seem to have the most in depth information on space topics and I love them because a lot of other "simpler" videos I feel like I already know most of the information. Thanks for being a great informational youtuber!
My own theory is a bit different, more dramatic and takes something into account, that many often don't realize. During the Big Bang, in order for matter to be created, the Energy that existed, created one part matter and one part antimatter. Now in our existing universe, only a tiny fraction of the original matter is left and all that exists now is what survived that matter/antimatter annihilation. Now picture this: What if through this matter/antimatter annihilation, some of the remains of the matter and some remains of the antimatter drifted apart creating two universes, the matter universe and the antimatter universe. Since matter and antimatter attract each other, these two universes are bound to collide at some point, annihilating the remaining matter and antimatter leaving only energy left at one tiny spot, waiting to explode and burst into matter and antimatter again.
Wonderful video. Excellent content, good narration. It helps us rise above our everyday petty concerns and see a picture bigger than we normally think about. The universe is much, much bigger than us. Thanks!
Thank you very much for the kind words and I’m so glad you liked it. I will say this is an olldddd video of mine so if you liked it definitely consider my newer stuff as I’ve tried to take up the production values since then
1:35 Wrong! The space is not increasing between me and my computer. Ask any astrophysicist, and they'll tell you that the expansion is NOT occurring in gravitationally bound areas of the universe; i.e., inside our solar system, inside our galaxy, or even between the dozens of galaxies in the Local Group of our nearest galaxies. The force of expansion is too small, too weak of a value, to overcome the force of gravity between these objects. This is really basic information regarding the expansion of the universe.
Fuckin hell the moment the video started with those clock ticking sounds combined with the switching scenes I was hooked immediately. I love this channel.
I really dont understand why they didnt call it Andromeda's Way. I mean that makes more sense. Andromeda is much larger than the Milky Way and Milkomeda is... hard to say. Andromeda's Way is way smoother fun, and realistic. I demand we change it to Andromeda's Way.
Maybe we should also ask the guys over in Andromeda about their opinion on how to call our common galaxy. I mean, they bring more mass into it, so they should have something to say as well, right?
I'm excited to hear my theory of a large black hole swallowing everything and reforming the universe in an endless cycle. I came up with that idea when I was in highschool, I kept it to myself and now I'm hearing it from someone else for the first time.
The infinity of the universe is what blows my mind the most.
@@rehvex It propably has a center but it's hard to imagine what it would mean.
@@rehvex 20^20 my ego
I believe Infinity only exists as a concept. If we are able to map something, it has to be finite, because that map has to lead somewhere. You cannot have an infinite map. Unless the 3 dimensions exist as Pi does, where there is no theoretical end because new space and matter is created as we observe it, like when we observe quantum particles. Science is scary when you fear the unknown. The more you study it, the less you know.
@TMAS pi is irrational, it is a real number though.
@TMAS You could say that about infinity, which is my point.
You scare the hell out of me on a regular basis.
He does that on purpose. I really wish he'd stop using such fearful terms to describe Very Big Things. Very Big Things are not inherently scary, because they are slow and easy to avoid.
Shawn Elliott I hear that. The next video will have a much more positive tone!
SEA please no the terrifying word you use just reminds us on how truly luck we are to have lived in this beautiful universe
@@noble6339: Your perspective on life is absurd and depressing. What kind of person needs to be terrified on a regular basis in order to appreciate their life?
Shawn Elliott I’m not terrified on a regular basis I’ve come to accept it we all die some day appreciate the time we have on our blue marble we call earth
“Crazy sh-t, right?” ...Made it even more real.
Reality bouncing on and off of existence is a much better thought than a dark ending that doesn't end. Yikes.
Lmao everyone watching this is thinking that or oh fuck oh fuck
OMFG I WAS JUST THINKING THAT!!!!
Yo Lmao
Penrose’s CCC idea is another fate; and essentially marriages the oscillatory and heat death endings
Omgosh.. the universe going through that process is like a heart beat. The back n forth in expanding..retracting.. repeat.... wow. And.. seems we are a mirror of this process! Have you seen that timelapse looking at the earth from space going through it's seasons? It looks like it's breathing! A heartbeat. Just wow. We are totally a reflection of the universe and its ways.
I realize more now that I am deeply connected to the universe and how it works, as we all are! And this magnificent process, of entropic harmony. Oh my gosh... there it is. After life, there is death.. and then there is life again. There is levels to this madness!!! Wow!!!! Just got tingles alllllll over, my hair is literally standing up.. it was crazy coming to this realization and feeling that energy in that very moment! Tells me I may be on to something 🌠.
I've believed for sometime now that we do get to advance to another plane depending on how well we do in this stage, but, your video really helped to put this into perspective for me. So thank you for helping me along my journey!!! 🖖
It only expands, the only equal force on matter and its consequences in our universe is the velocity gained from the big bang, to make the claim the universe of matter is contracting and expanding you need to show evidence of this and the force responsible, all i got ws absurd assertions using ignorance and self entitled insanity in this video , Nothing in it is based on the reality we know at this time.
It's scary to think about an infinite universe, but it's even scarier to think about a finite universe and what may exist beyond its limits.
It doesn't even make sense that something can exist 'where' there's no space..
@@cheherklai4078 most of the universe does not make sense to us, it is not that far fetched to believe there is far more out there, than we can ever imagine.
@@cheherklai4078 and yet it is entirely possible to.imagine a space with absolutely nothing contained within it...I see it like this, space is the canvas upon which the Universe is embedded...in a multidimensional hypersurface...
How about this...a finite Universe within infinite space? I am not saying that is the case, a realistic scenario, merely a thought experiment. I guess the proposal rests on the idea of a finite Universe embedded within an infinite spacetime. Which kind of ties in with Einstein's description of the Universe as being 'finite yet unbounded', in other words curved upon itself. Yet within that curvature there is no actual boundary...which is of course impossible to visualise for the human mind, but has a ring of truth...
Why is it scary?
“Goodbye universe. Thanks for the life and stuff”
Good riddance to it
Nice
So long and thanks for all the fish
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You will live forever just not here
You're killing it man. Love this channel so so much. Excellent job on these. Thank you for the brain food. Very much.
When I was a small child at around six years old, I would lie in bed and think about where space ends? It would really freak me out....I just felt like that six year old again.
i was 8 when Armstrong walked on the moon. it blew my mind even though i was watching Star Trek each week! I still remember trippin' on the lack of a sky on the moon, just jet black nothingness mind blown. there are infinite universes probably, of all shapes & sizes, constantly, i guess.
@@mjimih AMEN!
Imagine becoming eternally conscious during the infinity of the universe's dark end. Shit.
@@jrhermosura4600 you'll have to renew your Xfinity subscription
@@jrhermosura4600 THE END
And you're worried about asking that girl out.
I didn’t really care for girls or pay attention for needing a girlfriend after all chances of keeping them forever is narrow
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The end of the universe is one of my favourite topics in astrophysics. There's so many interesting ideas to explore, even when the universe is utterly dark, forever chilling. Could you imagine our sun as a black dwarf? No light, no heat, much smaller than its former self. If the gravity wasn't so strong, you could walk on it. Then look up to an utterly black sky. Plenty of matter out there, but no light to see it by. Objects only aware of each other by the gravitational influence they all have on each other. Or much, much later, when all the matter in the universe has fully degenerated and it reaches that point of heat death. No energy, nothing moving, not even a subatomic wiggle. With nothing able to happen ever again, does time even have meaning at that point? What is time without causality? Does it even exist at that point?
Some people find all this stuff dark, inhuman and horribly terrifying. I don't. I find it all fascinating and actually a great comfort that we are just an insignificant blip in the grand scheme of things. Suits me. By the time the events above happen (assuming that's how things will happen), humanity will have long since ceased to exist I'm very sure.
As long as something is headed towards entropy, time exists and passes relative to that something.
@@Just.A.T-Rex Indeed. But imagine a scenario where the universe is so stretched out that no two particles could interact any more... can entropy even increase from there? It's mind blowing to think about.
Humans are like cockroaches, we will find a way to persist. We might not be Homo Sapiens or might even be fully digital or even exist as pure energy, but we'll still be there in some form, you'll see. We're the only species that has managed to survive extinction level events that have wiped out 99% of other species with much, much more primitive lifestyle and no technology. Ultimately, it will get to the point where there really is nothing in the universe except maybe the very end of the universe itself that can really stop us in any way because we learn to control and manipulate matter, energy to more sophisticated and complex levels by the year now, and the speed of our advancement is accelerating. There might even come a point, as we exceed type 3 civilization status that we can control and manipulate dark matter and energy, and as such might even reverse or slow down the big freeze.
In the end of the day, the universe is controlled by the microverse. The Quantum level of things dictates what happens in the universe. We're reaching the point of understanding and being able to manipulate the quantum realm to a primitive degree. Give it a few hundred years where we have mastered it - if we master the quantum realm, we master the entire universe because what is the universe? It's a load of quantum particles, fields, waves clumping together to form matter and energy.
@@egonieser If we could travel between the stars and observe other planets, we'd probably find civilisations on those planets that have been destroyed by weapons, war or nature. Ones possibly as advanced or more advanced than ours. What makes you think we are exceptional?
@@666chapelofblood And what makes you think we aren't? Your speculation is as good as mine.
Besides I didn't compare us to aliens. I compared us to us. What other species do is their own business. We can only control what we do.
This site is one of the best on UA-cam! Salute!
@Marsupilami Lovespizza Have you checked out PBS Studios Space Time? Also very cool!
@Frank Beans I think you meant second
Salute.
PBS Eons and Space Time are both great
I 2nd that notion
The older I get, the more complicated the universe becomes.
Mark Richards you and me both!
Ikr
Einstein said something similar... For every question that science answers, 10 more questions appear in it's place.
I'm 58 and science discovery is built like a fractal.
a fractal is a subset of a Euclidean space for which the fractal dimension strictly exceeds the topological dimension.
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was A beginning.
Jordan will be a myth
Love the Wheel of Time. Only read one book, but can't say how much I still think about those words.
Without observing redshift we wouldn't know about the expansion of the universe, and as far as I'm aware would not be able to discover it any other way. It's strange to think that far future civilizations would not even be able to guess that there were once galaxies outside of their own gravity bound bubble and, should they come across what past civilizations had discovered, may assume it was myth as opposed to science.
Makes you wonder what we've already missed.
Quazi Stars, the first ever stars, the formation of most of the galaxies in universe, the big bang, the formation of the supermassive black holes, the death of the first stars, a time where the universe was nothing but hydrogen and helium.
that's all I could get from searching through my past stars memory's but I'm sure there is more that.
I had the same thought watching this. As soon as the night sky goes dark, the next generation will call it all a fairytale
I think we have it documented enough scientifically that it wouldn’t be “lost”. We have the math and physics behind it which could be easily verified. Unless of course the universal laws change at some point in the future…
@@ZakisHereNow we have documentation of man living with dinosaurs in every culture across the globe and yet it is widely dismissed
@@monkey3964 We absolutely do NOT have documentation of man living with dinosaurs…
20:37 - What a beautiful ending! This is a timeless lesson to be held and acted on. Thanks for another brilliant video! ❤️
13:00 this thing looks so beautiful
search butterfly nebula its is based on it.
Its fake you dolt
@@Lyle-xc9pg your comment is unnecessary.
ikr it looks sick
"Ah, what a beautiful Saturday morning! The possibilities are endless. Oh look, one of those interesting videos by SEA!"
(22 minutes later: gunshot sound)
That really cracked me up ! I( had to think for just a moment !! well said .
Head blown!!!
😂😂😊😊
holy shit LOL
Lol imagine being so optimistic at one moment and be utterly loss to the point of suicide the next moment.
Basically, a whole lot of “not my problem”.
Octeract [SG] 😂
It is your problem, now fix it 🥴
😆😆😆
Unless you're immortal.
If energy is never lost nor gained how do you know 🤔
the thought of universes randomly crunching and banging in an infinite interval is both comforting and terrifying
But think about it this way, life would remain interesting if in each iteration of the universe crunching, history would be happening in a very different manner, the humans born in the past iteration would not be born in the next iteration, and our memories would be wiped clean of the past iteration so we would have no memory of the death of the last universe and all previous lives within it. I don't know if the big crunch will happen because the heat death is most widely accepted, but just because something is widely accepted does not mean that it is slated to happen. At the end of the day, all three theories of the universe's ultimate fate are only theories. At best, they give us an understanding of the results of scientific processes. At worst, they scare us to where we don't sleep at night. I'm not asking for you to hold out hope (or continue to) that the Big Crunch will happen, or that the Heat Death should be accepted because I see why some people and scientists don't accept it (Queue Roger Penrose). However, I see that it is comforting because life can go on, but I can also see to your point how it is terrifying because some of us could just merely be tired of popping in and out of existence. If reincarnation truly exists (I'm hoping for that to be true also), then maybe we just think of it as a long sleep between the last breath of our current lives to the first cries of our next lives when we are reborn. We don't want to continually be reborn, but we also don't want to be trapped in a void forever. Existence and consciousness are both just too precious to seize to exist because we don't want to continually experience the realm we are inherently living in, but we don't want to leave it behind either. I'm sorry that it went this long, but this stuff was plaguing my brain a lot, and I wanted to get a lot of this off my chest.
@@MegaThurstonator Just, wow.
I think heat death will happen and after basically forever the Big Bang will happen again. I think this because of videos I’ve watched on the end of the universe. I refuse to believe we are the first and only.
Nuclear obliteration too imo
'Until that time however, we know everything will come to an end. So we may as well just enjoy the ride'
Beautiful!
Hey man, just wanted to tell you I think you're channel is absolutely fantastic. The narration is clear, easy to listen to, and isn't too fast or too slow.
I often put your videos on to help me relax on the evenings. Keep doing what you do. We love it!
Same! The only thing I don't like is the channels logo/intro. Makes me think of a transformer or something
The Big Crunch: Most Optimistic
The Big Freeze: Most Likely
The Big Crunch: Most Dramatic
The Big Change: Most Abstract
What about the Big Rip? I think it's the most horrifying since everything would be torn apart, even atoms.
No the big freeze is more likely
No. How can space collapse back in on itself if it is expanding faster than light? (Completely incorrect argument from my past self, it's actually impossible due to the fact that the expansion of the universe is accelerating due to the diffusion of matter throughout it, which provided a force which stopped expansion billions of years ago but no longer exists.).
@@whimsy5623 dark energy has changed before and can change again
Last Nyanmurai... what? How has it changed?
The only person that survives the end of the universe is the camera man.
He’s immortal
Eliazar The money has got to be made somehow
The Goodside wooosh
@@Zeuswashington r/woooosh
I love that you always remember the cameraman !!
Lola
The "crazy sh*t, right?" caught me off guard and had me laughing. Such an unexpected break of character for you as the narrator, since your manner of speech is usually so calm and profound.
☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 this 😂
I have watched this so many times, but first time I watched I said RIGHT!!!
SEA and Astrum have my favorite narrators. Wonderfully done. I almost cried at the end.
time for my daily dose of existential crisis!
Bahaha everytime I watch one of these 😂
When I'm having a bad day or someone pisses me off, I just watch something like this to remind myself that in the end, none of it matters anyway. I don't know if that's the healthiest way to approach life. Probably it isn't. But it works well enough, and learning about these theories is interesting in itself. Thanks for the great videos.
It’s healthy :)
Yeah but remember that guy that keyed your car and called your momma a hoe? You just gonna let him get away with that?
@@bellamaz1972 I get that curiosity and wanting to learn about these kind of things is great and all but I don't see how using it as self-enforced apathy to put off problems could be considered healthy or productive.
i pray you get to know christ young man
Dark Energy Dominated Era? So like... the “DED” Era?
I see what yo did there
Ded era lol
Watching shit like this make me appreciate that I can look out me window and see the green leaves of life goin bout their business
@Reptile Disfunction I don't know why, but for some reason what you said struck me as profound. Going to remember it when life starts weighing too heavy on my mind.
"It’s the kind of thing that makes you glad you stopped and smelled the pine trees along the way, you know?"
I listen to your channel for information and education because they are some of the best produced videos on the platform.
That being said, I put them on when I can't sleep, too. I'll queue up something I've watched before, put the phone to sleep, and listen to the audio. I don't mean this as a dig, so please don't take it the wrong way. I often feel anxious about stuff in my job and it keeps me awake at night and I don't get the sleep I need. Your narration is the perfect tone and cadence for my mind to zone in, relax, then drift off. Your work has rescued me from many a sleepless night and helped me perform better the next day.
Keep up the good work, man. Channels like yours justify the existence of UA-cam.
SO at some point in time, WE will be the only creatures that know and have recorded what lies beyond the visible universe , If we don't observe as much as we can , no-one later will be able to know !!
@@zimarts6095 What I was thinking is it would be stored just like we do now for our use , and when we go all that knowledge goes with us ! I didnt think about how it can be saved after ??!
humans will be long gone before our sun will go. And our sun will be long gone before the universe super expansion.
@@zimarts6095 YES that would be great ! I just hadnt thought it that far . I meant once its all out of sight ,if we are still around , we only know what has gone over the edge !
@TMAS Greetings Bro. , I was reading your reply and when I clicked on "more " I thought "OH shit , another crazy person " BUT I was wrong . I get what your saying, it is a bit over my head, I admit, But I hope "SEA" gives you a reply ,
We're basically waisting money, energy and time researching the universe ✔️
One of my favourite youtube videos of all time. That ending with the music blew my mind and heart. Yes, you can try to grasp it all on a mere intellectual level, but you made it somehow tangible.
Well that was depressing.
👍😂🍻
@@surfside75 grandson :(
It's nothing I need to worry about....today's problems are enough.
I used to be scared to even think about how big the universe is but learning actually makes me feel less alone. I believe in the big crunch. Life will keep going and I'm sure we're not the only ones. Be in the moment, enjoy life.
Thank you for making my homework seem insignificant
Infinity is more terrifying than death!
ah yes the number infinity is scary
@@bezvard1705 infinity is not a number.
@@augustusplebeian3268 yes it is
well depends on your definiton of a "number"
@@bezvard1705 i don't think he was talking about a number 😆
@@augustusplebeian3268 well then what is he talking about
11:00... by far ..the most poignant spot on analysis of the subject in the history of the channel. WELL SAID
Thoroughly wonderful production and content, as always.
It’s great how you take time. No editing out of breaths (Scishow), no staggeringly fast chattering so as not to ask too much of the impatient youtubers attention span... very good. Big thanks!
Sometimes you ask yourself, why is this universe here, and it truly hits you with an overwhelming disbelief, but you have no choice but to believe.
Believe in what?
@@dion5804 that the universe actually exists.
Dude I always think that. Like, what is outside of the universe, why is it here. How is it here. It’s absolutely terrifying for a second but then it just makes me kind of emotional
Hey SEA! Can you make a documentary on Milkdromeda galaxy? Like it’s size and stuff like that. Like so SEA can notice.
Respect from 🇮🇳 India for uploading this on our Republic Day!
I sure can! It’s on my video to-do list :)
Thanks! Your awesome!
current theories are so fascinating, but i cant help thinking we are still 100,00 years from having a reasonably accurate assessment of how this amazing complex system operates.
I seriously wish you could come out with an episode a week! Such masterful storytelling, great job as always!!!
Ikr..I love his voice..could listen all day
Someday we'll all be floating together in the void as unrecognizable particles.
It's comforting to know that even after our deaths our molecules will come together again at some point in the future to form a new universe.
Unfortunately the least likely scenario, according to this video (from what we know now)
@@littlegirlshowSynch Not that you're wrong, but nobody knows if the most likely scenario is the actual case either. Just thought I should put that out there.
@@MegaThurstonator And it doesn't mean the least likely scenario is impossible
Good point
@@littlegirlshowSynch I appreciate your open mindedness.
@@littlegirlshowSynchand none of these scenarios could be true. To think that we know what could happen. We don’t. We have theories. Who knows, maybe it’s the cycle that the universe dies and then is born again.
Recommended: The end of the universe.
I love the Big Crunch/Big Bounce. The idea that it happens over and over again makes me feel at peace.
In my case, make me feel depressed and afraid. All of this again? Oh no...
Maybe that's what the multiverse is, lol
@@dion5804 as long as tax and sadness isnt involved then sign me up
I have heard another theory, that, after the big freeze or big rip, when there's nothing but the post-proton decay hanging out there, there is a chance that matter could spontaneously rearrange itself on the quantum level and create matter out of nothing. There's nothing to stop it from happening right now, in fact, but in a near-infinite amount of time after the big (ending), the unthinkably improbable occurs and enough matter accretes in a single place to re-form a singularity and...pow, it all happens again.
Hence the concept of a multiverse 🙃
Pow! Right in the kisser!
If there was matter beforehand, there was something, not “nothing” as you so claimed. For there to be “nothing” before let’s say our own Big Bang, it would only be the work of a God who is eternal, the creator of “beginnings”. But your logic is not wrong, I’m just asserting that there was a point in time where there was literally nothing, nothing to feed off, attract or pull itself into energy/mass by chance to create a singularity or explosion of matter. This is how science brought me closer to God.
what about the brains floating in space ?
This is in such a long time from now that it doesn’t even count
Yes it still scares me somehow
Just remember once you die 1 year and 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years doesn’t really have any difference to you as you are not there to observe the passage of time
Been rewatching this one, it for sure is my favorite of yours
My favorite bit near the end: Imagine what we could uncover and learn if we gave ourselves a better chance of long term survival as a species
Yeah. Imagine the possibilities if humanity united as a species. Our current rate of technological advancement, which is already really fast, will expand to unimaginable levels.
We'll make more money before we die if we keep on killing ourselves. A lot of people seem to think that's a good deal.
it will happen unless we blow each other to radroaches with nukes. its inevitable like evolution.
I changed my major ever since I got a telescope. I aim to be a big name astrophysicist. Always enjoy watching your videos. Not just informative, but I do enjoy listening to everything you have to say.
😂😂 “crazy sh&+ right?” That was timed perfectly
Awesome aspiration!
Thanks guys, more inspiration..
Haha yeah though, I am so infatuated with and so deep into studying anything astrological, I may not have time for a "normal" life in the future. Not now and probably not ever..
I do not find that depressing at all, but rather thrilling. I plan to get a computerized telescope and customize it in many ways. From it I will do live streaming and interact with my audience. They will be able to see everything I see through my telescope. Going through a 5g connection, I will eliminate any possible lag. With the small audience I will study the stars. It will be a hobby. First I am saving for all of the equipment. I have begun doing so finally.
You see, I am not interested in live streaming video games. Not my style.. haven't been interested in that. Though I have uploaded a little gameplay of Subnautica and a call of duty fail. Anyways I am determined to reach my goals.. eventually haha.
Austin, I hope you can reach your dream. I believe in you!💪
Good luck! 👍🏻
Your content is a literal addiction
I adore your videos. I've watched nearly all of them now, I think. Recently I started a semi-binge on some of your older videos and I chuckled at the bleep around 10:47. You know something about the universe is absolutely mind-boggling crazy if it makes SEA break script formality just to say "that is some crazy shit right there".
This was your second video where I teared up a bit during the ending thoughts. It's really art how you are pouring the priority of the purpose of our earthly lives into words, and subtly opposing it to the inevitable existential dread caused by the discoveries of our cosmos.
Guys don’t give up. We are eternal. We going to be part of the show until the end of the time.
I love your optimism, I'm optimistic about the future of us as well. But right now, we can't say anything completely. If Heat Death can be prevented, good. If not, that's fine as well. Sadly, I'll be dead before we learn everything about the Heat Death.
@@piyushmenon4987 look, did Einstein die? His body did. His mind probably did as well. What about his thoughts? They are still with us. Ink on paper, bits in ROM, neural network in other people brains, such stuff is part of eternal space-time.
We're born out of cicles, and so do the universe, the big crunch is my favorite theory so far because exemplifies that, either way I don't think the universe will die in a dramatic way without hope for a new life, rather in a beautiful way, giving birth to a new universe so he can continue the cicle.
It's odd to me that in cosmology there is still a fear or resistance to the idea of "death". Everything else we know of the universe has a beginning, middle and end, but there seems to be a strong desire to view the universe itself as some sort of perpetual motion machine.
Perhaps that’s just the way matter truly is. It’s often toted that conscious beings are are “sensory organs” of the full universe. This way of thought ties us all into the fabric of reality, where there’s no separation. Maybe the fear of death isn’t a simplistic consequence of how we evolved to persist, but rather we’re expressing a fundamental feature of existence itself. Maybe existence inherently “wants” to be.
@@durkadurka5503 it does. It is beautiful. It is sensory. That is what makes existence beautiful, being sensory. It dies, to be born again and every time it is undeniable magic, experiencing at sensory levels. Can we ever learn to protect the magic of being, of knowing, of experiencing?
@@familieehrenfeld9123 It's not always beautiful. Nature is very cruel and most of humans suffer a lot.
The resistance to a definite end of everything is reasonable just because of human fear. It's because the big bang happened to begin with that started our universe. What existed long before that to even make such a thing possible and why would that be the only time such a thing could ever happen?
You know your stuff man love your channel. Watch your video on a daily basis. Think I've watched every video you posted more than once. Keep up the amazing work man.
One of the best videos I saw in a long time. I have always leaned towards the big freeze hypothesis but you explained the 4 possibilities so wonderfully!
I bet the Boltzman Brains are already on the job, out near the pockets of vacuum decay
discovered your channel a couple months ago and iam always very curious when you drop a new video. its always informative and expands my horizon, so keep up the incredible work!:)
This is nice to fall asleep to 🤙🏻. It’s quite relaxing and interesting at the same time
First 4 minutes are most concise, best explanation of the expansion of space/time & its implications. Great coverage of the theories about how the universe ends - and interesting to see how similar they are while being caused by such different chains of events
"Everything that has a beginning, has an end, Neo.
Everything that has a beginning, has an end - The Oracle
But very often the ending of one thing doubles as a beginning for something else.
@@haleywilson520 thanks fortnite guy 🙏🏾
Or unwanted sequels
Man. My anxiety is through the roof.
The End of the Universe
is when Gorefield doesn't get his Lasagna
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*Garfield
_(Unless I've grossly misunderstood some sort of joke)_
@@graeme3023 _(You have)_
Gorefield 🥺😬 I hope he meant Garfield.
But what about the universe where gazorpazorpfield doesn't get his enchaladas? He's gazorpazorpa-fucking-field ffs!
We might already be gone. But it will take billions of years to realize it...
Now that's some deep mindfuck
Makes sense. Outside of our observation, the universe has already been born, existed and ended.
Elaborate.
Louis Robertson bruh
None of us will be around to witness such events...so I'm not worried about it.
the inordinate, staggering, incomprehensible distances involved in space.
something that has taken me half a lifetime to get any grasp on.
I know it literally will never effect me but the thought of the universe dying and us loosing the ability to see other galaxies gives me insane anxiety.
Thats the beauty about making guesses trillions of years ahead. Its a guess based on data but its variable . we have no fckn.idea whats really gonna be live in 100 weeks . anyway making predictions is easy when nobody will be here to tell u. Uh u were done wrong. Its a theory considering mans mind isnt made for cracking space we r people killing planet wreckers..
@@joeymurdazalotmore6355true true
the big crunch seem to be more relistic also less depressing lol
I see new SEA video, I click
Crunch, Freeze, Rip , Change....Basically describes the life cycle of a pair of underwear,
I'm so happy yo find this channel. I've lear so much.
it's a really good work of scientific disclosure.
Congratulation
Best and most up to date series yet. Beautifully done! Keep up the excellent work!
OUR UNIVERSE IS LITERALLY A HUMONGOUS CHAMPAGNE BUBBLE.
Our universe is soup and someone left the burner on high 😔
I had to watch this twice just to comprehend what I just heard
As a guy that studies and likes to learn about the universe, the more and more I hear that the "big crunch" is impossible the more and more I believe it will happen. Everytime we look up into space we discover things that question our understanding of existence.
Rewatching all your videos and gaining something new each time
Love all your videos. Thumbs up and subscribed. Please keep them coming.
I’d like to believe that, after the universe eventually dies out.
Somehow it’ll just begin again.
It’s very very unlikely, but I’d like to believe that might happen.
Roger Penrose's conjecture of a conformal cyclic cosmology is for you. Google the term and his name. It's a very provocative idea, but there's really no way to verify it.
We have no idea what will happen.
Aight everytime someone dies on a hard level imma say 'the big rip'
SEA I don't know if you'll see this but I would love to know how you obtain all this information. Do you read a lot of books or do a lot of research on the internet? Your videos seem to have the most in depth information on space topics and I love them because a lot of other "simpler" videos I feel like I already know most of the information. Thanks for being a great informational youtuber!
This is such a great video. Loved the quality.
Off topic: the narrators voice sounds very attractive to me.
I would love to see an updated or redone version of this video now that your channel has grown so much and you have more resources at your disposal.
You missed one. The Big Last Thursdayism. It happens every Thursday when the simulation tech hits the reset button.
remember when he made a disstrack over a 2$ square game
My own theory is a bit different, more dramatic and takes something into account, that many often don't realize.
During the Big Bang, in order for matter to be created, the Energy that existed, created one part matter and one part antimatter. Now in our existing universe, only a tiny fraction of the original matter is left and all that exists now is what survived that matter/antimatter annihilation. Now picture this: What if through this matter/antimatter annihilation, some of the remains of the matter and some remains of the antimatter drifted apart creating two universes, the matter universe and the antimatter universe. Since matter and antimatter attract each other, these two universes are bound to collide at some point, annihilating the remaining matter and antimatter leaving only energy left at one tiny spot, waiting to explode and burst into matter and antimatter again.
I'll make it quick. Found your channel a few days ago and I'm addicted. Great stuff!
Wonderful video. Excellent content, good narration. It helps us rise above our everyday petty concerns and see a picture bigger than we normally think about. The universe is much, much bigger than us. Thanks!
Thank you very much for the kind words and I’m so glad you liked it. I will say this is an olldddd video of mine so if you liked it definitely consider my newer stuff as I’ve tried to take up the production values since then
Subscribed because of the “crazy shit” and awesome content
1:35 Wrong!
The space is not increasing between me and my computer.
Ask any astrophysicist, and they'll tell you that the expansion is NOT occurring in gravitationally bound areas of the universe; i.e., inside our solar system, inside our galaxy, or even between the dozens of galaxies in the Local Group of our nearest galaxies.
The force of expansion is too small, too weak of a value, to overcome the force of gravity between these objects.
This is really basic information regarding the expansion of the universe.
Anyone else want a Big Crunch instead of the universe spreading out so far everything just dies out? That seems so sad lol
The Big Crunch is all fun and games, up until the average temperature of the universe exceeds boiling point 😭😭😭
@@SEA I want the end of everything to be something sudden somehow, something loud. I don’t want everything to simply fizzle out.
Chapeau and kudos to the camera man who went to some dangerous places to film this video
Fuckin hell the moment the video started with those clock ticking sounds combined with the switching scenes I was hooked immediately. I love this channel.
My question is; What's the medium that the universe is expanding into?
Nothing.
@@nobleman9393 That's not a satisfactory answer.
@@christopheraaron8299 As far as we know it's literal nothingness, true Vacuum, I'm not sure how can it be expanded upon.(no pun intended)
I really dont understand why they didnt call it Andromeda's Way. I mean that makes more sense. Andromeda is much larger than the Milky Way and Milkomeda is... hard to say.
Andromeda's Way is way smoother fun, and realistic.
I demand we change it to Andromeda's Way.
What about Andromway? Amway?
@@thepurpleowl3356 No offence but I dont blame them for not using that name...
Maybe we should also ask the guys over in Andromeda about their opinion on how to call our common galaxy. I mean, they bring more mass into it, so they should have something to say as well, right?
@@smarkwal Absolutely! I wonder how those guys are doing over there. Let us reach out to them and schedule a sit-down on the matter asap!
The Ninth thumbs up is from me! Andromeda Way it is.
10:55 but why would there be forever? Why did the cycle start. Makes me feel ill when I think about a literally never ending rebirth of the universe
Infinity is the scariest thing for me. Fuck I hate thinking about it
One of the most provocative videos on UA-cam, for sure.
I'm excited to hear my theory of a large black hole swallowing everything and reforming the universe in an endless cycle. I came up with that idea when I was in highschool, I kept it to myself and now I'm hearing it from someone else for the first time.