Keto Makes Us Diabetic (& Insulin Resistant) - Full Study Review 🥺
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They should have done this study including diabetics who never did keto or exercise, they would find interesting results.
I can tell you something for having extensively tested things on my self like I'm a lab rat :
Low carb diet + protein + fats as fuel + exercise LOWERS CONSIDERABLY the insulin resistance and cuts by unbelievable amounts the exo insulin needed, maybe /10 to /15 times.
Problem is doctors even specialist are not working on the terrain and do not (cannot) really know how a body will react in certain circumstances. So they blindly apply what they have been taught like it's just a checkbox test. Diabetic (type 2)? = Insulin in worse case. Period. They should really be open minded and stick to facts when professional and personal experiments are conducted.
this study was rejected by peer review. it's on google scholar and rejected by 22 endocrinologist, doctors and scientists. The paper was also retracted by the original author and both Nature and Academic Medicine refused to publish it.
Feed the carb group high fat and the same thing will happen
" Turning Fats Into Glucose
This process is called gluconeogenesis, and there are multiple pathways the body can use to achieve this conversion. Gluconeogenesis generally occurs only when the body cannot produce sufficient glucose from carbohydrates, such as during starvation or on a low-carbohydrate diet. "
Quitting booze also reduced my alcohol tolerance. I'm unhealthy now because I can only handle 1 beer. 🤣
Sounds like the same boat I'm in.
I can totally relate. Two sips of red wine and I feel like I've drank half the bottle. Great for saving 💰 too! 😂
Great analogy 👏👏👏
Underrated comment.. I haven't played the video yet, but your comment explained a lot about the "study" itself 😂
Hi Tony , me too one glass of wine now , and I’m tipsy , it saves a fortune ,
Gosh. I didn’t realize feeling great on keto was a bad sign 🙄 I should go back to rice and whole wheat toast so I can experience joint pain, stomach issues and massive skin rashes.
I do miss white rice the most out of all the foods I don't eat anymore
I ate about a cup of white rice last week and ended up having serious skin rash and eczema on my face. It went away finally about a week later. I figured that's the only thing it could've been.
I find personally that if I cycle off keto, as long as I go back to it within 3 or 4 weeks, I don’t have the stomach pain and brain fog I had before.
@@78greendragon Cauliflower rice is a great substitute for rice. I also remember how sluggish I felt after eating rice.
@@alinamostov1394 Rice and simple sugars are only good IF you do a lot of manual labour or a lot of exercise immediately afterwards ingesting. This is why chinese stayed lean. Brown rice is also better since it has less simple sugars.
My brother in law was diagnosed with diabetes recently. He went on Keto and his doctor took him off the meds. Told him his numbers were great!
A healthy Keto diet and a low glycemic index food diet totally stabilized my blood pressure. It’s now normal only after 2 weeks! Blood sugar and blood pressure are correlated. I refused to take the doctor prescribed meds and instead did my own research. It worked for me.
@Martin_Speaks All truth for me.
Good for you!
@Martin_Speaks all truth for me too.
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Same!
I am a long term keto eater. But I do some carbs , mainly eating out , several times a month. My A1C last time checked was 5%. It takes a while to get fat adapted which I am. I do high interval training with weight lifting 2 to 3 times a week. And hike several times a week. I have high endurance and plenty of power when I lift. BTW I am closing in on 70 yrs of age.
You need to stop eating out especially at that age.
Amazing!! Godspeed
@@milesrost6674 stop associating humans with god you fool.
I am 43 year old male - in 18% fat range. I never followed any diet ever. I eat Bananas everyday. My A1C came to 4.8%. I eat plenty of plant foods, very little dairy and strictly vegetarian.
@@mobilemonster7681 Lmbo!!! Yeah, exactly!!! Isn’t that awesome, though?!!? Especially at 70 years old!!! My Dad, before he had his massive stroke (which wasn’t because of the keto diet or anything like that), was the same exact way. Extremely healthy!!! And, by the way, don’t freak out!!! My Dad has a stroke because they cleaned out his clogged his carotid arteries and then never gave him a blood thinner. And, after he had already had his horrible, horrible stroke, his doctor then told him that he should have been on a blood thinner and he was going to give him the blood thinner the very next time he seen my Dad. But, for him, sadly, and unfortunately, it was too late. He ate extremely healthy and exercised every single day other than maybe two days out of the week. Never over did anything, though, really. He just should have been on a good blood thinner of some kind. And, they didn’t put him on one. 🤬😢🙄🤦♂️🤯💔
I feel so good on keto don’t care what anyone has to say. Four years on !
Four year gang! 🙌
No study can argue with my N+1 results. I heard this stuff back then but I decided the only way to know the truth was to do it for myself.
Are you in ketosis all the time? If so, how? Intermittent fasting?
@@rickthain8538 keto all the time and I just skip breakfast and I’ll eat till around noon on. Stop munching around 8pm usually.
I’m going back on...longest I’ve done is 2 years. Getting back on for the mental clarity it gives me. Noticed I’ve been ver sluggish and I have brain fog. Also first time in a long time my blood sugar dropped the other day pretty bud and I haven’t been eating bad. Thinking I need to stabilize my insulin.
I told that to my doctor. A year on Keto, not one bout of acid reflux. I used to get 3 or 4 a week waking up in the middle of the night.
Results and condition don’t lie...
I’m gonna be 52 and feel better than ever. Coworkers at work can’t believe my age-I look younger or the same age as they do.... I keep my carbs 30-50 grams and after I dropped my weight-began to introduce high carb days followed by a fast. Works like a champ.
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Same here.
How long have you been doing this. I want to learn more about adding in carbs but they make me feel crappy every time (depends on the carb though). My husband tells me keto is my fountain of youth 😊😊 it's nice when people like your family and coworkers are supportive.
this is interesting... how long do you fast between high carb days and keto days¿?
It's clear that the body has to adapt. This claim that you can become diabetic on Keto is asinine! Of course they want you to stay with carbs because that is where all the profits are for the big corporations that produce all the processed foods.
Exactly! I'd say the majority of people who are diabetic have never once gone on a keto diet.. so we most definitely need to look at the actual cause.
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Not to mention all the doctors and drug companies that make money selling you diet pills when pre-diabetic, then diabetes medication once you are diagnosed
@@maniacalmoz Or when your cholesterol goes up they want to put you on a statin.
Word
I've been diabetic type ii for 4 years, doing low carb and now keto (most of the time) plus doing IF for 2 years. Just got my latest A1C... 4.9. Definitely not harming my insulin or blood sugar....
Do you ever cheat? I’m Pre diabetic. Feeling confused.
@@terristokes3460 yes I do, and I also have times when I do lower carb instead of just keto and IF all the time. I think especially once you get your A1C and blood sugar levels where you want them, you can add in more and still maintain. I see what Thomas is saying although it's hard to get my head around it at first.
Lowering blood glucose not good idea Brain going to starved Hint CNS
@@samar1111100 In your natural state that'd not going to happen.
Excessive blood glucose is even worse for the brain.
@@samar1111100 Better to feel weak then have sugars damage your nerves and arteries.
What happened in that study is an expected finding/result. Anyone that is trying to use it to debunk keto has ulterior motives for doing so.
The vegans are gonna use this to say keto causes diabetes - like clockwork.
Doctors, hospitals and big pharmacies don't make money if you are healthy.
@@78greendragon - Nailed it, Nate!
@@henrytang2203 Vegans also do keto, y'kno
@@ZeeJayBay Only the cool vegans. Most hate saturated fats (even from coconut) and gorge on carbs.
Thank you Thomas. I keep being bashed for doing Keto but I figure - I used to be T2diabetic (reversed it with exercise and low carb 6 years ago) so I’m glucose intolerant anyway! It’s like saying ‘if you don’t habitually snort coke you’ll be coke intolerant’!
Did you have any issue taking metformin while working out and doing keto?
I did 5 months of keto and then switched back to carbs, I’m fine and all of my blood tests are normal
I’ve been keto for about a year and a half. I’d been craving cherries for a few weeks and finally gave in. Ate about two cups of cherries and checked my blood sugar an hour later and it was 198!! Holy ship. Was pretty disappointed with the result to say the least. So why not try it again the next day. Ate the same amount and my BS after an hour was 120. The insulin response comes back, I guess it’s just that initial hit that is compromised.
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
A handful is sufficient
It takes at least 2 hours before your sugar begins to come down after eating. Post-prandiol blood sugar checks are done 2 hours after a meal for that reason. 1 hour after you eat won't give you an accurate picture.
your body is not used to carbs just yet...plus cherries are sweet...try berries with some stevia or monkfruit
Very interesting experiment!!👍🏼
Fascinating but shows the scientist bias that having more sugar in diets is the normal standard. They should have crossed the study design as you suggest and do both a glucose bolus AND a fat bolus to see what happens to each group. Sounds like this was a great study that needs to be replicated with a cross over design. Thanks for this summary.
Indeed, why is it not an equally big deal that the high carb diets don't convert their fat to ketones as efficently? In fact it takes way longer to enter ketosis than it does to generate insulin ...
I have cancer that has metastasized to my liver. It is actually somewhat under control (new technique called immunoemolization) and I have crossed the line from prediabetic to diabetic. The thing that got my attention was a line in the discussion of a CAT scan that said my pancreas was showing signs of atrophy. Fast forward after four months of KETO and my last CAT scan said, "Pancreas looks normal". (blood sugar is down from 200+ to mid-80s). I'll cycle a few months every year but I know I'm on a KETO/low carb diet for life.
That’s awesome! Hope you live a long, healthy life with Keto!
amazing and so such a simple solution that most primary care doctors don't discuss. Instead they'll treat the glucose making the situation worse instead of the obvious underlying problem.
So many studies are just lies, with conflicted interest.
Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet, in which Horton states that “much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue.”
“Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness,” writes Horton.
As always, consider the source.
That would explain the blood sugar spikes I get the few, rare times that I’ve had a carb. We’d love a “what I eat in a day off keto” video!
I second that notion
He has done that check his library
@@78greendragon yes I’ve seen it, but I meant a “full day of eating” type of video.
I started keto 2 months ago with IF. I consider off/on keto as I do when doing longer fasts - slowly & gently. Maybe start a few carbs the night before with less fat?
If you do Keto for a long time, your cells are forever fucked, poisoned with too much fat, wont ever respond to insulin. You did it to yourself. You, the low carb crowd, you are the flat earthers of nutrition. Denying the science will get you in big trouble.
Isn't this obvious? What a waste of time and money this study was. Anytime someone ingests a drug that they don't regularly has a lower tolerance to it. For example, someone who drinks alcohol regularly can drink a whole bottle of wine before they get drunk, whilst someone who seldom drinks will feel drunk after one glass of wine.
Same principle.
The theory that you should go off keto regardless of what your blood work is, just to stay carb adapted, is akin to saying you should go and drink some alcohol periodically or shoot up some heroin every now and then just so your body remembers how to process it. Ridiculous
Sten Ekberg had the same comments about a different study. They were feeding Mice with tons of crap they would never find in Natural environment (nor eat). They need to make more honest research.
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Sorry to be that guy, but the alcohol is a bad example. People do NOT build a tolerance to alcohol, they just get better at handling how to be drunk. You'll always be just as intoxicated as someone who just started to drink vs a regular drinker, with the same amount.
@@Masterr59 😆😂😭Speaking from experience, eh?
There are many forms of tolerance in regards to addictive substances. Functional tolerance, what you described, is just one form. However, there certainly is a metabolic tolerance that chronic alcohol users exhibit. Their livers are able to produce more enzymes that process and eliminate the ethanol from their body quicker and as such, require more alcohol to get intoxicated.
Sorry to be that gal, but telling guys like "that" they're wrong is what we women do best. Perhaps you should conduct a little research to avoid humiliating yourself in the future. 🍻🍾🍷🍸😏
Hope you can be open mided and spread love not hate.
Im my opinion you are correct in the case of alcohol but wrong to compare alcohol and heroin to Carbohydrates.. Carbohydrates are not drugs they are the bodys prefered energy source and are important for the body.. You sound like one of those vegans overexagurating about how eating meat is like drugs or eating a dog or human lol
The human body can adapt to most things, our gut bacteria changes when we eat certain foods.
The Keto diet has its place for fat loss and muscle maintenance but is best used as a short term diet then once body fat is lost. You carb cycle instead of completely removing carbs from the diet and when you eat carbs eat healthy carbs such as sweet potato, quinoa, Oats, Sourdough bread, black/brown rice, whole weat pasta or gluten free pasta even legumes that have additional protein such as lentils, beans, splitpeas and chickpeas.
not white bread, processed cerial, heaps of potatos, rice, pastries, normal pasta, lollies and processed foods
The healthiest long term is a ballenced majority whole foods plant based diet with occasional white meats throughout the week like; wild caught fish and birds like Chicken, Turkey, duck and so on.. Unless you want to be like our closest monkey relitive and eat Fruit, veg, nuts, seeds and insects and other monkeys poop for B12 lol
also no need to continue that silly negitive belief that "women are always right" and men are wrong crap.. People say that in marriage just to avoid arguments lol
what matters in life is to treat others with respect, and offer different veiw points as we can always learn something new.
Peace out
I've managed to maintain about a 30 lb weight loss effortlessly for 3 years. I think I'll stick with that. Why should I care if my blood sugar spikes when I eat sugar once on a while?
I love not being constantly hungry or cravy.
Same!
@@Josherrificly same here
YES!
I feel the same.
Your blood sugar is supposed to spike after eating sugar! Then, your pancreas does its job and produces insulin to process it. I was insulin resistant, meaning I had a metabolic issue where my pancreas wasn't working properly and I couldn't lose weight, even going to the gym 5 days a week. Once I switched to intermittent fasting and keto/ carnivore, I'm dropping weight and feel great now! My blood sugar is nice and low, and so is my blood pressure!
I was able to lower my sugar, triglycerides and I raised the good fat in a matter of two weeks. All with the keto diet and without starving myself. I wish I could post here my two blood works from before and after to show you proof.
I had very similar results.
You don't need to post proof Sabrina. Anyone who's done it knows the results.
But I understand, I love talking about my blood work too now that I'm on keto!
Keep up the great work!
me: A1C of 11.9 using the recommended food pyramid, A1C of 6.1 after 90 days on the keto diet .. the food pyramid is partially responsible for the obesity epidemic in the west
Glucose intolerance is not the same as insulin resistance!
as far as i know... yes you are right
Sure, but sugar floating in your blood for too long is bad, no matter how you look at it or name it.
@@heksogen4788 Insulin resistance is actually caused by the excess production of insulin. There's a real easy way to avoid sugar floating in your blood for too long.... DON'T EAT IT.
@@TheCompleteGuitarist correct, when the cells have taken in enough glucose, they shut the door and refuse to open it when insulin comes a knocking. you change this by reducing the amount of carbs ingested, depleting glucose from the cell stores
Sounds like the researchers were out to use any excuse they could find to shoot down the keto lifestyle because we're just too healthy so not profitable to the medical profession nor the pharmaceutical drug manufacturers. Would be interesting to find out who funded that study. Also, how does that make us diabetic? Inquiring minds want to know.
I could not agree more...same thing 1st came to my mind...HHHMMMMMM??? always follow the dollar
Like erasing the "merk manual" from health institutes.
I agree with that.
@@jonsmith527 Yep, but from what I see they dont have much to worry about. So many emotional and addictive eaters out there. I've tried my whole life (51 now) to help people who asked for my help. Only to discover maybe 5% actually make the necessary changes.
Funded by ConAgra (Grain and Sugar).
This reminds me of A Princess Bride. Where the hero ate the poison regularly and was able to survive the test of wits with the little bald guy when the hero poisoned both glasses. It's kind of the same thing.
Inconceivable!!!!
Inconceivable!
Was just thinking about the movie lol
But only slightly less well known is this, never go in against a Sicillian when death is on the line! ( or get involved in a land war in Asia! )
After 4 minutes in, I guess I don't understand why this is surprising. It's like taking a gasoline engine, converting it to electric then running it on electric only for a few months then one day just filling the tank with gasoline and turning it on....You have to convert the engine back first to run on gasoline..
That's not any of that works.
Alright, the lesson here is to dont binge eating sugar and candy for "carb loading"
One time I got a +300gr sugar on icecream and candies after being keto for 3 months it got me kind of a psychodelical trip.
It was bad LOL
Exactly gradually introduce sugar/carbs if your goin off keto
Hilarious. We all do stupid shit sometimes.
Can you explain how it was Psychedelic
Funny lol 😊
@@Alifeofadventures503 it was psychedelic
Once I reached my goal weight on Keto I began experimenting with addition of more carbs. Everyone is going to be different. In my case, I eat more beans, squash, sweet potatoes but avoid grains and inflammatory seed oils and it’s pretty easy to maintain. as Mark Sisson says, “You have to figure out how far you can push it.” Dr. Mindy Peltz recommends women increase heathy carbs up to about 80 to 100 per day for the week before a woman’s cycle begins to
TDL has helped me a ton I owe him a a lot, however I will eat A TON of cruciferous green lower carb vegetables(Kale, arugula, Brussels sprouts, broccoli) without any regard to the amount of carbs I’m ingesting because the source is clean, low carb and healthy(IMO) and I still have 3/4 cup(Total) of blueberries, blackberries, and raspberries PER DAY...my A1C is 4.9 and I’m T2D.....I balance between Dr. Berg(more vegetables) & Thomas De Lauer....both are blessings
Did you have any issue taking metformin while working out and doing keto?
@@Myeternalperspective I myself don’t “work out”, I do yoga/stretching, normal walking & occasional jog when playing with my kids. My diet and results led my doctors to advise me not to take metformin or any other medication anymore and I haven’t; my A1C is still 4.9-5.2 at the highest. Hope I answered your question...
I started laughing the moment I saw the title of this video. For the last year I’ve been following the Mediterranean diet I found on you channel and have cut my insulin use by 50% and labs have consistently been in the normal range for the first time in 30 years. I’ve been a type 1 diabetic for 61+ years. Great video with some interesting information. Thanks for the laugh!
You mean type 2?
@@hubpakerxx *Type 1 diabetics* _cannot_ produce insulin.
*Type 2 diabetics* _produce_ insulin but do not respond well to it, and later, as the disease progresses, do not produce enough of it.
I'm sure Mike knows exactly what type of diabetes he has.
@@hubpakerxx No I'm type 1, I have friends that are type 2 that have been very happy following this diet also.
@@montanamike53 OH ok I see where my confusion was. You only need the insulin when you eat carbohydrates. For some reason I thought that you need it all the time regardless. Also usually they don't advise the intermittent fasting to people with type 1 however keto is beneficial because you still reducing the amount of isuline after each meal
50 million greeks can't be wrong..
Oh duh. I had diabetes. I have been on Keto since last Jan. My sugar is under control. Between 80-115. Before that it was 387...Thomas How do you know when to have carbs?
Do you have to?
Amen was the same uncontrolled blood sugar over 400 ,last 3 a1c 5.4 5.2 5.1 was on 30 units of lantus now NO DIABETIC DRUGS do 20-24 hour fast with a monthly 72 and 48 hr fast all is good in the keto world
@@blacksilverchair3315 you actually dont
How long can you be on keto?
Is this why back during Atkins they were saying when you go off the diet you gain your weight back more quickly? If so, this is something for crash dieters on keto should think about. Keto should not be a crash diet.
Yeah, part of Atkins is easing you back into moderate carbs (because heavy carbs still isn't good.)
I did Atkins once as my first ever introduction to low carbohydrate dieting. Atkins was noted to be a crash diet and fad diet. After your simple 2 week "induction phase" on Atkins you automatically starting adding in carbs at 5 grams per week. the lbs people lost in those first 2 weeks was of course mostly water b/c you deplete your stored glycogen, but the point of slowly adding in back carbs after just 2 weeks is so pointless when they KNOW that the early loss won't stay!
After being on low carb keto diet for six months, I went on one cheat day to eat like before starting keto (pastries and junk food 😅), it made me felt sick and fatigued. I think the keto diet reveals how sugar and carbs are toxic, because it lower my carbs intolerance or my body isn’t used to so much carbs again, but it’s for the best. 🙏🏽
absolutely - before i quit alcohol, i used to think that it was the beer that made me feel that way. but when i quit drinking, i still felt like this. if you are living constantly like this, you just accept it.
But you ate pastries and junk food like you said 🤷🏻♀️
Why would you expect to feel good afterward? It’s not carb per se, but the junk, processed food that’s bad.
@@embeeNIC before going on keto, eating junk food didn’t feel that bad, I guess my body was accustomed to it. I agree, carbs get a bad rep, it’s the junk food that’s bad.
I was insulin resistant, going to the gym 5 days a week not eating a ton of calories, but still couldn’t lose weight. I’m 6’2 220 in shape, when I got up too 315 I said no way no how. I found you and Berg so I decided to do a 90 hardcore challenge for myself, no cheating and a 4 hour eating window full keto. At 90 days I had lost so much weight and felt so goo that I stayed on the program. In 9 months I lost 100 pounds and thru intermittent fasting I was able to keep it off. Them saying it causes it is just because they want you to keep buying all the sugar and junk food, they make too much money to let this alone.
Did you have many symptoms with insulin resistance?
Such as no muscle pump?
If so did you manage to reverse the insulin resistance?
Thanks 😊
I got off 2000mg of Metformin in three weeks and my A1C to 5.1 in three months with healthy keto and intermittent fasting.
Did you have any issue taking metformin while working out and doing keto?
Interesting study, I wonder if there is one on the effects of sunlight on a person from walking out of a well lighted room compared to some walking out of a completely dark room?
It makes sense to me that your body would be confused with the high sugar when you are typically burning fat for fuel. I have been on keto for several years now and i can get by with eating a little fruit like cherries, now and then, with no problem but eating something like pizza or cake makes me really nauseous. But I consider that a good thing because that is a deterrent for me not to eat that type of stuff.
While on Keto I am still metabolizing carbs.... just much fewer than normal.....instead of 120-150 grams ... closer to 20-30 ... so the body is still coping with carbs. The body transitions at its own pace as needed.
Yes exactly! The body makes the necessary adaptations.
So that was the end of the study? Long term keto, they gave both groups the 75g glucose bolus, and that was it? At that point they could have just continued gathering data for another week or so.. and a 75g glucose bolus is going to be metabolized differently than say, a small sweet potato or some kind of fruit. & yes, they should have reversed the diets since they already had both groups available! What a bummer! I wonder what the carb group's diet looked like. Thanks Thomas, nice breakdown as always!
The people funding it might not want the magnifying glass applied fairly
@@vincentdavis9830 As Always ! 🙄.
75g of glucose is a massive amount. 12 hours of fasting and then eating 4 Krispy Kreme donuts. Even in my old self if I ate 4 donuts after fasting for 12 hours, I'm going to be in a diabetic coma. In actuality, I have never ate 4 donuts in a sitting, usually 2 to 3 is way more than I need and even then I feel awful for the rest of the day. It's why I decided to do Keto because of how I felt after always eating.
@@patrickdezenzio4988 it's enough to make anyone sick, spike insulin, and cause inflammation, keto or not
I was dehydrated a few weeks back after hiking in very hot and humid weather and not enough water. Got to friend's house and only sugary drinks were available, drank enough for a glucose tolerance test of sugar, then quickly got the worst leg cramps ever for over 15 minutes... Was in pain from the cramps for a couple of days afterwards.
Himalayan or Celtic sea salt on the regular helps with electrolytes.
They didn’t have running water at their house? You didn’t have a filter?
@@1strights Only hot boiling water was available, tap water isn't advisable, or cold sugary soft drinks and beer... So I drank the cold soft drinks and a can of beer..
@@tonym842 my husband and I have this conversation all the time but a beer is probably healthier than a soda (in a pinch/short term)
If that ever happens again, opt for water with salt and either cream of tartar or baking soda, or just salt. That will rehydrate and balance electrolytes better and faster than a sugary drink. With the bonus of no leg cramps.
Was keto for 6 months. Lost 60 pounds. Tried to donate a kidney but could not because the glucose tolerance test said I was diabetic
That's really interesting. My body adapted to Keto really fast and I lost fat quickly.
I had noticed right from the beginning that when I ate carbs again my glucose went right up. Now I have a better understanding of WHY 😁
This might be of special importance to Type 2 Diabetics. If we do go off keto, we should reintroduce carbs gradually and not a large amount at a time. Otherwise, we are making ourselves insulin resistant all over again and have to start over.
Could you expand on what those intervals may look like? When to carb cycle? And for how long?
That used to happen to me. But since I became older, the glucose levels did not come back to normal, and now I'm finally finding myself not able to to keto and not able to eat much carbs. Both make me feel bad.
I did a similar study in college physiology and the glucose tolerance test left me crashing hard. Insulin surged ridiculously high. We also tested how caffeine inhibits glucose uptake. Conclusion was that caffeine and sugar in sodas was a double whammy for diabetes.
In my case, the Keto diet might had adversely impacted the insulin production and/or the glucose regulation function.
While under Keto, it seems the insulin (production or function) is no more trained to regulate/respond well and timely when some carbs are being ingested.
My Keto diet includes less than 80 gr. carbs per day.
Following a 4 months Keto diet, I lost weight (78 kg. to 68 kg. - my height is 173 cm) and my HDL went up (45 mg/dl to 72 mg/dl).
That's great and these are the pros.
On the other hand my HB A1C (%) went up (5.3 to 5.7) and my fasting Glucose went up (from 70 mg/dl to 77 mg/dl). I also lost some muscle mass.
A1C is now one step before pre-diabetis, due to the Keto diet. That's worrisome.
I'd appreciate if your could share your thoughts.
Have you figured this out?
@@taradikoff123 Probably keto induced carbs intolerance.
@@EL-yi6df well the whole point is that you aren’t eating excessive carbs??
@@taradikoff123 Yes, I am eating much less carbs than before. That puzzled and worried me. My family physician and the endocrinologist do not want to cooperate. I am on my own. I will have comprehensive lab tests in June. Then I will have a better understanding. Thanks for your feedback.
@@EL-yi6df You said you’re eating 80grams. What percentage of the calories that you’re eating a day come from carbs? It should usually be around 10%
Keto is the only lifestyle that works for me. If I eat anything else, having genetic type 2 diabetes, my blood sugar levels rise out of control. Also, before starting KETO my cholesterol levels were extremely high. After being on the KETO diet my cholesterol levels are excellent as is my overall health including my A1C levels that went from 12.5 to 5.3. After seeing such an improvement I'm convinced that KETO is the right way to go personally.
So basically if you have metabolic flexibility (after spending enough time with keto), you can basically deal with any form of energy, whether it be fat, or carb, when the environment provides either.
The point is coming to balance for whatever body type you are. Granted, your body can adapt to many things but you need a variety of foods at times to prevent the extremes like diabetes, fatty liver, or glucose/insulin resistance from occurring.
6:00 is what people seem to forget.
The whole study is comparing the highest speed of Lions and Sharks on Land.
Appreciate the way you delivered your interpretation of this study.
So what your saying, is a diverse diet, that is lower carb is good for you.
I eat more glucose food in the summer month and stay complete keto(meat heavy) over the winter month. I love fresh fruits and some carb meals here and there and feel great as long as I keep my 18/6 IM. If you think about it. It is also more natural fruits and carb foods are more available in the sommer month. That is when you add maybe a bit bodyfat from the carbs and over in the winter there are little fresh carbs available in the past.
I feel great doing this balanced dance since 4 years but everyone has to find what works for him best.
Solid video. I appreciate the perspective you bring to what some might use to attack keto/low carb eating-no doubt they will as it seems like a war. I am unclear about the theory of "glucose intolerance" from a low carb/keto diet....we always have glucose in our bodies for fuel and retain the ability to metabolize it. What is going on with low carb people who do an OGTT is that they do not store much insulin as it isn't regularly needed.
When they are given 75 grams of sugar there is not insulin at the ready to bring blood sugar levels down. This is called the Phase 1 insulin response. As the body senses blood sugar quickly rising, insulin production goes into overdrive and this is Phase 2 response.
So it isn't that the body doesn't know how to process glucose properly or that the cells are "intolerant" of it, it is just that there isn't insulin available to move glucoseout of the blood. In essence no frontline troops at the ready. This is why if someone doing low carb is getting an OGTT, they must eat more carbs in the days leading up to the test and the meal the night before or they will get wacky high readings.
Keto totally messed up my blood sugars and Im still trying to get back to normal . Its been hell and I never had blood sugar issues before I did keto !
Same here
@@NinorahDeux Im a year out and still dealing with this shit . Im glad that its not just me even though I wouldnt want anyone to experience this .
@@shaneshrimp6519 Can i ask you how long you stayed on keto ? Would you have any advice, and did you see at least an improvement ? I try to follow Jessie Inchauspé"s tips and to exercise, but not with much success^^
Drudge had a Keto bashing article recently. Full of vague results and references to things that none of my keto content creators recommend.
Drudge has been a pure propaganda outlet for a few years now.
@@growcactus Yup. Funny how they flipped on a switch. He must have been on the island..
@@enricopallazzo3244 He sold it years ago.
@@sasha22674 I’ve read rumors of that but hadn’t seen it confirmed. Although one should assume when they started bashing anything anti-establishment that the big media machine was in control. Thanks.
1.5 years ago, they told me I was type 2, I went keto 20 grams or less a day. After a year I stopped taking metformin and have had several consecutive A1C checks at 5.0
KETO WORKS!
Was the video presentation just about type 2 diabetics?
@@slofty I would have to re-watch the video, but I believe so.
congratulations, that metformin is almost as bad as diabetes itself
@@kevinrightmeyer7892 Did you ever have any issue working out on keto and on metformin?
If you're body is optimized for carbs and it struggles to process a glucose spike, that is a problem. But if your body is optimized for fats and it struggles to process a glucose spike, that is to be expected. The first can predict diabetes or pre-diabetes. The second needs more research to see if it is useful at predicting anything.
Great video thanks for keeping me informed - it's easy to find distractions that justify unhealthy habits, you help balance the equation with logical analysis.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us and cutting through the confusion. It makes a lot of sense that the body takes time to adjust when it has to switch to a different fuel.
Congratulate them for testing the Randle Cycle. That's no big deal.
PS: Dr Jason Fung explains this in one of his books, or maybe two or three.
In other words, always be learning, noticing, and managing what you eat, how you burn, and how you store. It is different and dynamic to your current situation. After you become good at it, it is nearly effortless because all it comes down to is paying attention and choosing one option over another.
It stands to reason that endurance athletes, or any athlete, would not do well on a low carb way of eating. Common sense tells you that. The nutritional needs of athletes are very different from someone riding a desk, driving a bus, long haul truck drivers, school teachers, etc. etc. If the study had been done on various age groups of normal people the findings would have been vastly different. I have been eating Keto/LCHF, even carnivore at times, for 4 or 5 years. Inflammation is almost non existent, weight under control (still have a few pounds to lose), muscle development is on par for the resistance training I do, HIIT and cardio are much better than most people my age (60). No medications, no illness, no need to even visit a doctor TBH. IF and Keto/carnivore are the bane of big pharma and are therefore demonized. They don't want a world filled with healthy people because it reduces their profits. Listen to your body, it will tell you what it needs.
They absolutely do that want a world full of healthy people reducing their profit margins.
🙏Amen. Low carb lifestyle all the way.. we can always switch it up, but doing what feels right for your body is the best choice. Also I find after I eat too many carbs I can quickly get back into ketosis by fasting for a few extra hours..
@@mellowEsko Exactly! I rarely eat many carbs but, if something in a dish at a restaurant knocks me out of ketosis, a 23-24 hour fast followed by a bulletproof coffee gets me right back in. The fast also has the added benefit of reducing any inflammation that might have been triggered. I ❤️ this lifestyle!
On the contrary endurance athletes would do well on keto as not reliant on glycogen for energy but can keep using fats. It's the HIIT workout and anaerobic exercise that is difficult on keto
I was wondering this exact thing. Dude when I cheat on Keto I am nearly dying. Headaches, fatigue, even blurry vision.
So Thomas, what we need is a more refined definition of the term "periodically", as it relates to reintroducing carbohydrates. Why is "every few months" to be preferred over "every day"? The people want to know -- what's wrong with zero carbs throughout each day, until a bolus of up to 50 g carbs in the middle of your daily activities?
Yes, please clarify this. For how long and how often? A few carbs or a whole bunch?
I already suspected this which is why I only keto during the week and eat like a king on the weekends just so my body and gut bugs don't lose complete handling of the foods I love but not real good for you when consumed on a consistent basis...
The title is not an accurate reflection of the findings of the study. As Dr Benjamin Bikman, who probably is the leading expert on insulin resistance out there has mentioned in his videos, the cells remain exquisitely sensitive to insulin when carbs are re-introduced to a person following a very low carb diet. This was found where an insulin clamp was applied to those subjects where the insulin removed the glucose from the blood without any loss in effectiveness. The issue is that the reaction to produce the necessary amount of insulin is slower, so the production rate is affected but not the effectiveness of the insulin produced is not affected at all.
Nothing else worked for me and I feel fantastic now. DeLauer and Dr. Berg changed my life and body composition. I'm sexy again. Used to weigh 236lbs and I'm 160lbs now.
Everything in moderation, good rule
I am 61,take no medication, I race dirt bikes, I sea kayak long distance, I have never had a cavity, I have no aches or pain, my joints are like a teenager. I could go on. Carnivore and OMAD.
How long have you been doing that?
I’ve done an extended fast(5.5 days) which basically put me into a ketogenic state. Done bloodwork before and after. A1C went from 4.5 to 5.1 after the fast, which pretty much left me baffled as I was expecting the opposite
I am in a similar situation.
See my other comment of today which provides more details.
I think I will add some lentils/peas/beans/wild rice.
@@EL-yi6df red your comment. After my fast I went on with a full keto diet, for 4 more days. Even if I restarted eating my energy levels were rock bottom, was feeling really off. When I resumed my normal high carb diet everything came back to normal. I think I simply am not genetically able to follow a low carb diet. I eat lots of carbs and insulin resistance is never really an issue for me, but if I try to cut out the carbs I’m a dead man walking. And it’s not about willpower, I’ve managed a 5 and a half days of full fasting, interrupted it because I was staring to feel worryingly weak and ill. I simply function better on carbs
@@ajejegroz9080 Best wishes !
Liver dumps glucose because it thinks your starving.
What if I already had intolerance when I began Keto 2 1/2 years ago? My body can’t handle anything with more than about 15 carbs due to surgery. I tried cycling off and I was sick. Felt horrible, gained 12 lbs in a very short time, yet I really hadn’t eaten much differently other than adding carbs, good carbs to my diet for 3 weeks. I won’t cycle off again. Keto is my way of life now. I feel great! I’ve lost 63 lbs, (well as soon as I can get this last 8 lbs back off) and at 65 I can workout at the gym several hours a day. Thank you for sharing your insights with us. I am trying to stay with a cleaner Keto diet to get my cholesterol down though. Any insights for those of us who have a slightly higher cholesterol, glucose intolerant and still needing to lose more weight?
Make sure you get enough salt each day. Read the book. The Salt Fix.
ginger and cayenne pepper helps you lose weight more efficiently, so take them before your workouts.
If you can't handle carbs, don't worry about eating them. Your body can make what it needs for your brain and your muscles are perfectly happy with protein and fats. As to losing that last 8 lbs., been there, done that thing. Try dropping your fats slightly and upping your protein levels for a month. You will have to play to find the right level, but the less fat means your body will go looking to use the fat on your body. And as to high cholesterol, does your doctor fuss at you like mine does because my LDL is up? My triglycerides are half of what they were and my a1c has dropped to 4.9 and my HDL has raised significantly. Your LDL is just a boat delivering fats to your body and taking them to your liver. A high cholesterol is only a worry if you already have heart failure. Otherwise, it is just a number. Keep doing what you are doing and you will be fine.
Is it ok if the extra carbs come from keto foods when carb cycling? Like eating more avocado and nuts? 🤷♀️ Or does it have to come from stuff like sweet potatoes?
I find it ok to do, yet the other carbs provide you with a diverse microbiome. Then, you may overdo it on the fat, if you eat more avocado and nuts. Plus, depending on which nuts you eat, could create too high an omega 6 to 3 ratio.
Good question... cause every time I cycle off keto I think I'm feeling exactly what was described in the study... my body and brain feel like crap and I can't wait to get back in ketosis.
Hello, what are your thoughts on Dr.Sally Hallberg's advice for diabetics & overweight people ? (No GPS). This stands for: No Carbs, No Potatoes, No Sugar.
How often should the average person (not an athlete) cycle off of keto?
I have always found that my body does not like any sudden changes to my diet so this does not surprise me.
The best in the game. Good review. #ForwardThinking
I'm 2 months into keto to correct a toxic liver situation that caused high blood pressure & pre-diabetic blood sugar. I do 18-20 hr intermittent fasting with occasional off times which seems to be working well. I ate healthy, vegetarian about 35 yrs. but pescatarian for keto. I feel much better but wondered about off/on keto in the future so appreciate the suggested time frame.
Eating a cookie every now and then won’t kill you
Actually it does. A lil poison everyday wont kill u fast but it will eventually kill u.
why not just eat a keto cookie
That cookie every now and then will keep your body in shock... remember it’s all about keeping your body in shock!
It won't. The problem is stopping at one.
Something I noticed that helps me with this, is apple cider vinegar. For example, if one of my nieces have a birthday, I eat cake without an ounce of guilt. It also helps eliminate that carb craving after several hours, or the next morning. Also, once a week, I have more carbs. Not a ton, but I'll have 60 or so instead of 30 or less as usual.
Good information.
Love these studies that give people 75g of glucose, yeah let me just eat 1/3 cup of sugar....they need to use real life examples like a banana or something 😑
Yeah 75 g of glucose would make anyone feel stick. I wonder how many g of carbs and what types of carbs the other group was eating to have no response to that much glucose. Even when I was eating carbs that would make me feel crappy, but at the same time I was on my way to insulin resistance.. I wonder of the carb group was normal weight/found to not be insulin resistant before starting?
@@cocoq10 Meh its just a 20 oz coke, wouldnt necessarily make you sick... course they said it was in 250 ml..... which is like what just under 9 oz.... so yeah... super sweet. kinda gross.
As a type 1 diabetic who started keto 3 weeks ago wow this is exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you. So glad you post the studies in the disc.
As a Diabetic type 1, I've been doing keto for more than 2 years and the amount of insulin resistance & unstable blood sugar I have now vs a year ago is insane.
I've always been curious about type 1s.. so you are saying all of those things are worse on keto?
that is interesting. would you say your blood sugar is more unstable now since a year ago?
@Matthew Hanna Why would I lie about my health? I never said keto is bad, I love it but for me, after a long time it doesn't keep me stable as it used to be. "liar" why so quick to attack? who hurt you hun?
My glucose levels never went as high as they did on keto: dangerous on the LONG term. At the beginning you feel so good, that's the danger.
In the past year I have lost 35 lbs. I did not change WHAT I ate whatsoever. I only changed WHEN I ate. From the last morsel of food of the day to the first morsel of food the next day will be AT LEAST 16 hours. NO OTHER "RULES" NECESSARY. I still eat carbs and I still eat fat and I make the commitment to exercise at least 1 hour daily. I now weigh 165 lbs. at 5'11" and feel great. Intermittent Fasting (IF) is the way to go.
They are flat earth believers
This makes perfect sense and it was explained very well. Thank you for sharing this information.
I have been keto/ketovore for over two years, I recently experimented eating one rice dumpling a day for four days. I gained 1kg/day! Now doing an extended fast to get back to maintenance weight 😁
You can store up to about ten pounds of water weight/glycogen, carbs might stimulate appetite causing you to overeat, but they don't go straight to fat. I eat as many as 200g of carbs a day while training, as soon as I cut carbs the water weight disappears. Creatine supplementation adds water weight as well.
With strict keto, I can't eat enough cheese, dairy, meat to grow and recover muscle. It's the energy-density of fat and carbs that cause over eating. Try eating 20 boiled potatoes a day, it's quite difficult. However, a loaded potato with cheese and bacon is very easy to get 2000 calories.
@@EhurtAfy That's the thing, I didn't eat more, I only switched in a glutinous rice dumpling a day in place of some fatty meat. I'm sure some of the extra weight was water to help process the additional glycogen stored.
@@EhurtAfy carbs and creatine? To hold water weight? Most people are trying to lose weight while maintaining normal muscle mass. Not trying to increase huge percentages of mass on Keto. Wow 200 carbs a day. I would Hyperglycemic and Diabetic in days not weeks. I understand if you are CrossFit training or a triathlete for sure. If so good luck in your next event!
I was diagnosed type 2 earlier in the year, and my a1c was 7.9. I did what the nutritionist told me, but I saw the diet had too many carbs so I stop and did keto. I have been doing it for 3-4 months, and had my a1c checked at 5.8 like last week and lost 15lb. Mind you I could only do some walking (30 mins) as my exercise, and I fall off the keto wagon like once a month 😰. So I'll stick to keto regardless of what studies says.
I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it. It’s good to question everything we’ve been wrong before. What if keto followers are wrong? My mom controls her type 2 with keto but has never healed herself. She is still overweight and can’t tolerate carbs after 10 years on keto. I wonder if she would have had more success following a different approach. Keto is a wonderful tool but I do wonder about the long term use of it. Does glucose tolerance continue to decline? I don’t think we know.
We need nutrition to be treated as a proper science with long term studies funded by non interested parties.
If your mum hasn't lost weight on keto, she's probably consuming too much fat, or too many carbs. I bet she probably doesn't exercise much either
@@maniacalmoz She has to keep her carbs super low or her blood sugar goes up too high. She’s eating between 10-20 total carbs a day. I agree that she is probably eating too many calories in fat and not exercising enough. Many keto followers say calories don’t matter but they do
You are 100% correct Jessie. Calories do matter. I would suggest that you gently/subtly encourage your mum to do some resistance training. Nothing super heavy, just 1 and 2 kg weights, but lots of reps. This will build long, lean, feminine muscle. More muscle = more mitochondria = higher metabolism of fuel. This will definitely help your mother improve, both physically and mentally/emotionally. I wish you both good luck.
I don't think you'll ever completely lose the ability to utilize carbs except for type 1 diabetics. It takes a while to get fat adapted. It also takes a while to get carb adapted.
Someone educate me on this because im still confused, 3 questions:
1. - What is 75g of glucose, is it 75g of pure sugar? if thats the case is the study saying that if you drink a can of monster energy drink your insulin is more fucked than a regular persons?
if so how much and for how long? and if so can it not just be avoided by avoiding sugar or am I missing something here?
2. - If it is really necessary to build tolerance to sugar, how often should you have these carb refeed days and what can you eat on them (how much percentage should be carb in these and what carbs exactly ), 4 months of keto and then 2 months of non-keto sounds like something I dont want to do, is there a better way, say 1 carb day every month...
3. - Final question, if my diet is 60% fat and 35% protein with 5% for carbs do I need to have carb refeed days? Because as im understanding it protein makes glucose too but without kicking out one out of ketosis, so if that is the case would that diet be more beneficial in not making me insulin resistant?
I have been on keto for 8 months now and every 3 weeks I take 2 days and eat pizza, bread, and basically go to town on carbs....takes me 2-3 days of 18-36 hour fasting to get back into keto. I feel like crap when I go off keto but I get to enjoy pizza like a normal person once a month
Lost a lot of weight, balance my lipids and sugar in 6 weeks. Doctor said "I don't know what you're doing but keep doing it, your blood work is pristine" That's a verbatim quote.
6 weeks prior I was in hospital near death.
Raise HDL, lower triclicerides (sugar intake), get all your carbs from veg, anabolic exercise and you'll never go back.
This study sounds like Ancel Keys clan is still about.
Problem is: keto involves meat. And they want people to turn vegan... enough said, i suppose.
As a type-2 diabetic, I am already insulin resistant. So far, the ketogenic diet is working great for me. My goal is to lose 100 more pounds. My doctor wants me to get off insulin because he says that people taking insulin have a much harder time losing weight, I stopped taking insulin about two weeks ago and so far I am not having major spikes in my glucose levels. It is also my understanding that losing weight will reduce insulin resistance. So in the long run, wouldn't I be better off to stick to keto until I have at least gotten close to my goals?
Could you do a video on which carbs to give the body during a keto break? 🙏
I have been T2 diabetic for like 20 yrs. Before I went low carb I would have major blood sugar spikes and insulin floods anytime I ate carbs. Even carefully controlling portions and sticking to 'whole grains' made it difficult to manage my blood sugar, and that's *with* medication. Since going low carb, not only has my diabetes been controlled, I am close to reversing it, weaning off the last med which has already been cut. If they're worried about what'll happen if I consume a large amount of carbs at once-- they need not worry about that, lol. Not gonna happen.
I actually feel quite good on my 4th or 5th month of keto. I stay under 15 carbs and most of it is fat and some protein. If you eat too much of protein which you don't need, your insulin goes up. People think because they are eating less calories because the carbs are gone, they need to eat so much more. So this video couldn't ever be more wrong knowing how this has helped thousands of people from high insulin and diabetes. Btw, the point of a diet is to diet if you forgot.
Thank you so much for sharing this!! We have to get rid of that “all or nothing” stigma! You did a great job explaining.
Easy Peazy.... just eat carbs every so often but while eating keep the fats VERY low. If you combine the carbs and fats during the insulin intolerance window... you'll gain weight quickly. I've been down this and this is what I've found. I've lost about 300lbs and it's been gone since 2018.... I might add too that my A1c is 4.3 normally now I have done one test after having high carbs for 2 months my A1c was at 5. Before my A1c was 7.9
I seem to intuitively do this. I’m pretty strict keto, but every once in a while I get a hankering for carbs. Like recently I had to have those special rainier cherries, and I went through a sweet potato phase as well. I knew I was going out of ketosis, but my intuition told me I needed to eat these things, possibly for the nutrient aspect. And I am just about to go into a grapefruit phase because I need this type of vitamin C right now for health reasons. Sometimes I get tired of getting my vitamin C from sauerkraut and lemons, like Dr. Berg says.
As the ancient Greeks said, it is all about moderation, not too much, not too low😉plus fasting is key to keep balance