I'm equally amazed how the things God wants from his followers are exactly what they want to do. It's not like theists ever say, "I personally hate immigration, but God says I have to welcome them, so I do."
@@nmappraiser9926 God is clearly pro-immigration, and there are Biblical laws for taking care of immigrants. Haven't you read all the times God reminds Israel to care for the strangers, since the Jews were once strangers in Egypt? God ordered the Jews to not glean their land, so that strangers, etc. could eat. If memory serves, they were also not to harvest the corners of their fields for the same reason. BUT, I would imagine God was also not for breaking the law to immigrate.
@@BaptistJoshua That's my point. God is pro-immigration. God's followers are anti-immigration. So they ignore what the Bible actually says, and impose their own politics. Then they "imagine" God is on their side, as you just did.
I mean, if anything, it actually makes me less afraid because it already contradicts an all-powerful God who apparently can be rivalled by something he created and knew would come to be?
Yeah, give the Devil his,Due, and why would you create something that you knew was going to turn against you one day? I thought the invisible sky wizard was supposed to be all-knowing. Then he let Satan keep his superpowers🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
I was thinking: I have 3 nieces. I love them so much. But hypothetical: if I knew that in 30 years, one of my nieces was going to take a life would that push me from not having a relationship with them before that time? IDK... I think I would allow it, but maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate.😅
@@mustachemac5229 You leave out a lot of things out of that reasoning. You create those nieces and you can make them in any way you want and change them in any way you want. And you didn't even make any promises not to do so. You can prevent that life taking on a whim, but not only you chose not to. You created the niece so that she's bound to take the life in 30 years and you created the life she will take and you will punish this piece of dominos for falling in the way that you set it up to fall. It's like playing with dolls and setting them on fire in the end for taking part in the scenario of which you enacted every detail.
@@vojtechpribyl7386 I see what you mean and you make some good points but let me reply with a little rebuttal. Even if I know that my niece is going to perform such an act, I must also consider that my niece has free will and that there is a possible world where my niece does not take the action and there is a world where my niece does take the action. This is the dichotomy that I am presenting. So let's put ourselves in the world where my niece does take the action... Do I not have a relationship with my niece just because in 30 years she's going to perform such an act? Take a second to think about what I'm saying.
@@mustachemac5229 Oh no no. She's an angel. She's fully a creature of his, because we were talking about Lucifer here and all that free will nonsense are concerned with man. That's for the start. Then you have to admit that all that free will is actually just an excuse anyway, because the creation is exactly to the last detail made to the will of this god and there is nothing happening that he didn't foresee and order to happen, so all the puppets are free to act exactly as they were created to act. The may think they have a choice, but they are just playing in a scenario pre-set to get exactly the outcomes the god set them to generate.
@@vojtechpribyl7386 Yes I understand where you're coming from but again I need you to step into the dichotomy that I presented. We have two possible worlds here. We have one world where my niece will perform the action and we have one world where my niece does not perform the action. In the world where my niece does perform the action, do I not have a relationship with my niece just because of the action that she's going to perform 30 years from now? This is the question I'm asking.
@@BaptistJoshua We can use the actuality of the real world that math represents. Take one apple, split it equally in two and you have 2/2 an apple. Math is simply a representation of what is actually happening in our world. Which is why we can apply it to the real world. You can apply this concept to any math proof and prove them the same way you would in any math class.
He is trying to talk like a youth pastor to 7th graders not realizing we are mentally more like college graduates and have critical thinking and reasoning skills. I once talked to a Christian about Scientology and its beliefs and she was floored and said it sounded wild. I was like yeahhhhhh and? She said “thank God we believe in the truth.” Some people are deep into it.
I think the first major crack in the walls of my faith came when I realized that I couldn't use the Bible to convince non-believers to believe in God, because it was suddenly obvious that they wouldn't give a shit what the Bible had to say. That realization led me to take some Christian theology classes in university (a secular university that had a tiny little Catholic campus on it), and boy... was that ever an eye-opener. My faith started to fall apart VERY quickly after taking those classes. Also, his thing about asking God to show that he's real... yeah, no atheist (and certainly not one who used to be a devoted Christian) ever thought of trying THAT. Hahahaha...
That's the point in their arrogance they think that atheists really do believe in their invisible sky wizard we just want to sin that is why when they quote different versions of Romans 1:20 to me it goes in one ear and out the other.
That's one of the main problems I have with them: they claim to be humble because they believe in a "higher power", yet when they speak, they do so with arrogance, lacking total self-awareness.
I have dealt with atheists for about 25 years or so. If you really get to know them, you find out that most of them, in the end, feel guilty over...masturbation. 😒 Weird. But eventually they finally admit that that is the big deal for them.
@@collegerebel I am a born again Christian, and I fully agree with your statement. But then again, according to the Bible, most Christians are fakes. So why don't you see what IT says, and not so much worrying about what they say?
@@theunknownatheist3815 No. A Christian, if he knows his/her Bible, or is being used of God, can know the answers to a question, but they got it from God. What questions do you have?
Book of Job - God literally makes a bet with Satan that Job will still worship him even after God completely fucks up the man's life. So, yes, we are "God's little play things."
@@Grauenwolf No. As a child has no sin in being without clothes, or as animals do not, so man did not. There was no sin in Adam and Eve, and they were married.
If you make the blanket statement that using the Bible to prove the Bible is wrong, then I would ask you to prove math, but you cannot prove math. Prove to me that any author's non-fictional book is right or wrong, but you cannot quote from it.
Will Christians ever get that parroting the book gets nowhere?? I have yet to hear any Christian be as convincing and authentic as a baseball super-fan or serious classical music enthusiast where the passion simply bubbles out of them in a way that almost makes me want to go to a game or learn the violin. The Christian yammers out a sales program. Yes, cold-calling does get sales, but not anywhere near the persuasion when your friend is excited or inspired by their X hobby or interest. It almost makes me feel sorry for the Christian. They have no real experience to share so then end up sounding like that creator.
It does not matter in the least whether someone cares or not. If God is going to save them, the Bible WILL work. That is why I try to limit apologetics, and just get the atheist to read the Bible. Which they won't. I think they secretly fear it. If I lived in a muslim country, I would want to read their gibberish. If elsewhere, that book. They cannot both claim to be sincere, and also refuse to even study it.
I have been given similar advice before. I was told to "just pray" in response to my lack of Christianity as well as my general dislike of it. The advice made me laugh a lot, but it also frustrated me that no one has any good arguments.
As a former theist, I do remember once believing that everyone knew The Truth when they heard it. So he and others may think that by quoting scripture they will 'wake up' 'sleeping' spirits. But in reality, people know when they hear something they like, whether it's true or not. That's one possibility why they think this sort of blabbering works.
"The Bible says don't love the things of the world, for he who loves the things of the world does not have the love of the Father in him." Wait, didn't this "Father" supposedly create the things of the world? Are we not supposed to love His creation?
Bro it makes so much sense now! A flabberghast has flabbered your bladder, now you're flabberghasted! Obviously you have to ghast the flabber out of your bladder to be clean again. It's all written on the Globberglobe!
I'm sure the apologist lacks the awareness required to recognize the arrogance inherent in regurgitating his religion's holy book and dogmas and expecting anyone else to care. I'm sure he knows that _he_ wouldn't instantly convert if a Muslim did the same thing to him.
Why is he talking to non-believers like they believed? You forget that he also believes it's written on everyone's heart and that he's actually thinks that he is speaking to the choir? From his POV he is right and just needs to remind you, because it's you who's willingly walked from the right path that you internally know to be the right path and thus doesn't need to actually convince you.
That fairy tale book is (part of) the REASON I don't believe in God. So reading from it wil certainly NOT make me believe in him. Theists just don't get that.
"... those who do not believe" - With that little pause at the beginning, am I the only one who got some "those who shall not be named" vibes from it? 😂
Of course if you DO sincerely ask god to show you he's real, and nothing happens, it's because you weren't REALLY sincere! And if you think you're living a happy fulfilling life, you're not REALLY happy, you're just confused because you're living in darkness!! Gotta gaslight to evangelize.
As a former Muslim, that's the same thing that hit me. Why does God rely on inefficient methods of communication like needing to give "personal revelations" to one dude who can't provide any other evidence of divine communion and must use fragile and easily tempered "holy" books to give his message
Not according to the Bible. Baptism is only for Christians, not for the unsaved *becoming* Christians. Think of it like a honeymoon. A honeymoon is good AFTER marriage, but going on a honeymoon does not make one married.
So.....I am the darkness.....lol. That sounds pretty cool like a line from the super cool villain in a film. I will start using that. Just walk around saying "I am the darkness!"
I don't know about anyone else, but my (human) father taught me to close my eyes while praying. He never gave a reason, of course, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who was taught that way.
It's funny how this all-powerful God just can't do anything unless his followers have a say in it. It's like God only follows the wills of his "lesser" creations, whatever they want
The problem is that, to them, talking about "christian reality" is like us talking about the laws of nature. We know they exist, we can measure them and see their effects, and we talk about them as if their reality is a given. Religious people have convinced themselves of their reality, but will not acknowledge that their standards of evidence and units of measurement are garbage that you wouldn't use for anything else in life. That's why they don't hear it the way we do.
I saw a meme on instagram today that asked why black people worship white jesus. I have no idea what “worship” means, but I really don’t see why anyone would want to associate in any way at all with any of the religions that enslaved your ancestors. 🤔
@@Nocturnalux Either way, all three of the abrahamic cults are patriarchal, authoritative, and supports keeping people in involuntary servitude. So it makes no sense to convert like some have done either. 🤷
As an Ex-born again Christian I've heard it all before, & the points you make are absolutely on point. & if you want to know why I am no longer a Christian, the simple reason is.......I read the bible. & by the time I finished Revelation I was no longer a beleiver. Because I guess I have something that Theists dont, Critical thinking.
I LOOOOVE the argument of "you have to believe it to understand it"... or in his case "you have to come to your senses". It's just so... circular. 🤦♀️
@@BaptistJoshua and you never know that I run 100 m in 9.97 seconds unless I DEMONSTRATE this non-magical, not even world record sprint. please, now that you know how evidence works, feel free to rant about the supernatural. a.k.a magic. It will convince us all. Possibly :- ) (hint for your rants: you have presented as much evidence so far as islam, hinduism, and all religi0ns ever: Exactly 0.00000) you are really brain dead.
When he said God put it on his heart to say this and that he was obeying the command, I heard, "I have an imaginary friend that told me to tell you this. I also obey my imaginary friend." He could cut out the imaginary friend and just say and do what he thinks he should. If your imaginary friend is saying it, it's you saying it.
To the nonbeliever, an assertion that the Lord told you to do something so you are complying sounds a whole lot like you decided to do something and are blaming God.
"The Lord put this on my heart...." Did The Lord do surgery? I''ve had open-heart surgery, got a foot-long scar to prove it. Not really that bad, believe it or not. I had had a Doctor do it, he bypassed a couple clogged arteries. I've been much better since. You do know that the heart is a blood pump. Why do you religious types insist in saying stupid things like that. It's as though you live in fantasy world that doesn't actually exist where a God puts stuff on you blood pump. Imagine if I said .: Bugs Bunny put a bunch of carrots on my spleen." Wouldn't you think I was out of my mind? Dude, you need to grow up. You should be embarrassed.
The stomach has so many neurons that it's often referred to by neurologists as the second brain.. Sometimes strong emotions can literally make ya vomit. Vomiting requires lots of core muscle to flex quite strongly. Even non-puking flexing can be easily detected, at least unconsciously. That likely squeezes the chest also, and consequently the heart. Hearts are kinda important, so the brain pays very close attention to any physical feelings involving the heart. Emotions are chemical actions. So emotional feelings are generated by the *_physiology_* producing them. Emotions get equated the physiology. "..I feel it in my.. uhh.. chest- no heart.. I feel it in my heart !!" _(what, do you feel..?)_ "The TRUTH !!" Or at least that's my chain of thinking.. 🤣
@@Dr_Wrong Yes, I’ve heard of research with fat cells in various parts of the body affecting the brain. So what does that sort discovery have to do with the creator of all things writing and on your blood pump. It’s just hyperbole wrapped in nonsense. If you know there’s a god, trot this thing out or tell everyone how you verified its existence. Until then it’s woo and bs spouting from the mouths of the credulous and liars.
I am confused. I don't think wish flesh, nor with some supernatural spirit - I use my grey matter (the brain). The rest, of course, is even less meaningful. He speaks like I imagine someone possessed would talk, if possession was a real thing. I recommend that he study Ecclesiastes. Maybe also the Song of Songs. No holy spirit for me, please, I don't like intoxicating substances. Oh boy. Hearing that guy, I certainly get the impression I know more about the truth than he does - he seems to be living in fantasy land.
I'd love to see what would happen if these peple ever sat down and thought about what they were saying. Never going to happen, thinking and religion are oxymorons.
Why couldn’t god put the message on my heart? Why does god always have to use a believer to try and persuade the unbeliever? If he can take the time to put a message on someones heart surely he can have a 5 minute chat with me?
Am I getting this right?Even if I am happy in my life I am not happy because Jesus? I am so glad that this guy is around to tell me what I truly think and feel. I couldn’t have done it without him.
If Satan is gods adversary , then why would the people who go to hell for not believing in God be punished ? You'd think Satan would reward them , right ?
Who would anyone consider more evil and vindictive, a demon who allows you to live life how you want or a god who insists you worship and obey every word?. And let's not forget dubious morality? Seems christianity is the wrong path and one of oppression and control
3:04 "Jesus says... ": Jesus doesn't say anything, the correct way to phrase it is, John says what "Jesus said", Luke says what he heard other people say what "Jesus said" etc etc
Apologists post videos to convince themselves. They can't possibly believe that any atheist is convinced by their magical wishful thinking. Ps, why do they always sound and look so miserable???? If that's the Holy Spirit then I'll pass and have the alcohol spirit instead. Ta.
Whatever the state of my life, I can be fairly certain that some actions won't improve my well-being in the slightest. Dedicating myself to a deity is one of those actions. I don't deny that humankind, collectively, could be doing much better for ourselves. No quick fix exists though. The only valid method of doing better is to...do better. Jesus won't provide you with an escape pod from the universe we live in.
I work with a Christian girl. Beautiful, lovely woman. We were talking recently and somehow got on the topic of mercury. She's like, "what's mercury?" I was shook. Like, you've never heard of either of them?
I am an atheist: Please prove that god is real and it has the properties that you think it has. Then please prove that the devil is real and that he does the things that you think he does. Thanks.
@@littleredpony6868 _"was it written in the Latin script or the Arabic script?"_ ?? Wot! ENGLISH!! Jesus and all old testament peoples spoke ENGLISH, obviously, duh. 'Merca is the the whole world and all human history, right?? 🤣🤣
Oh, see, wait a minute, this guy just convinced me! He is using Scriptures to prove his assertions. No one has ever done that before. He HAS to be right. I really would love to see where this guy is in 10 to 20 years?
The worst thing a theist can do is to preach to an atheist, and i'm a theist. The best way to engage in one of these lectures is for a theist to shut his mouth and zip it up. When i tell Protestants that the Church is the authority, not the Bible, they go into crazy mode and condemn me to hell ! I hope this guy is reading the correct Bible. Some Bibles have added Scripture, some have deleted Scripture, some have altered Scripture, and some are corrupt.
Out of curiosity, what would you consider to be the "correct" Bible? I don't have a dog in the fight, as an atheist, but I also have several Protestant translations (ESV, NRSB, NIV, etc.) as well as a Catholic Bible Douay-Rheims/Latin Vulgate ). Would any those qualify as the "correct" Bible?
@@martinmckee5333 It was by Apostolic Tradition the the Catholic Church discerned which writings were to be included in the list of the Sacred Books. This complete list is called the Canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New. During the Reformation. Martin Luther removed 7 Books from the Old Testament. These are known as the Deuterocanonical Books. So Protestants use a bible with only 66 Books. Any Catholic Bible would be OK.
@@aussierob7177 Thank you for your thoughts. I do generally know the profile of the Protestant Bible's history, though I wouldn't pretend to remember dates or numbers well. I guess it does make more sense to me to accept the earliest list of books as more representative, though I do have greater faith in more modern - scholarly - translations. Cheers.
I mean...depending on the version of the story you want to pick, Mordred could be considered very much a victim of his mothers manipulation. Besides, Mordred isnt so bad. She just wanted to take some of the weight of her fathers shoulders. And prove that she was worthy of Arthur.
@@msdaphne Nope, I went from referring to 'canon' Mordred (as much as that counts for anything with the Arthurian legends), to the one from Fate. Who is a woman.
God is always do as I say and then Satan comes by and says go ahead, that guy is a controlling jerk. I’ve always thought that selling believes on their god is evil and that you must worship him or he will punish you. Just one step away. With believers acting the way they do seeming to demonstrate that they worship the bad guy. Why not? Pascal’s wager can be applied right?…
Isn't it nice to just make up anything you want about god, and then claim that he's looking out for you without any evidence, even in the bible, that this is the case?
He said Lucifer? Well bad news Lucifer isn't even in the bible it's a translation error, but Satan or the Devil is in the bible, but let's be real they don't exist, I love greek mythology, but does it mean the greek gods are real? No
He makes appeals to selfish pride, spiteful envy, and vengeful wrath. He may want to contemplate Jesus's counteroffer to God's pride, envy, and wrath, his appeals to humility, acceptance, and forgiveness. Appeals to pride, envy, & wrath are anti-Christ and against what we perceive as Christ's nature.
i would not leave that dude alone with a rabbid pitbull for fear of bad shit happening to the dog let alone put an iota of spiritual faith in him. yikes!!
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"Just like God is real, the Devil is real" - or, to put it another way, the Devil isn't real either
Don't be naive. Evil is real 🔥👿🤘😈🤘
We call horrible wrongdoing Evil yes....but the origin is Not an bad angel story who was kicked out of heaven ..c' mon😅
@ryngrd1 "bad acts" by humans are real.. lucifer is a made up villain.. as real as unicorns or fairys 🧚♀️
But I've seen the devils, so that means that God is also a hockey team.
@@vls3771 Call it what ever you want to call it, attach any imagery or description you like, but make no mistake about it, evil is real
God is always welcome to talk to me directly instead of hiring puppets.
True.
Or at least send competent ones with worthwhile evidence ffs.
@@AXKfUN9myeah, you telling me this clown 🤡 is who the all powerful all wise creator of the universe sends? 😂
Nah….puppets want and need money
Tbf, i'd prefer it to just send pics.
That'd do the trick just as well without schizophrenia. Or cults.
“Hey atheists who have concluded Christianity is false, did you know Christianity is true because the Bible says so?” 🙄😐
It's a book believe what you like you have no evidence except belief
As they say in Wayne's World:
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Damn! I have to re-convert to Christianity now! Best arguement ever, bro. 👊
@@Les-i7eevidently the roll eyes 🙄 emoji went right over your head. 🙄
Wow, I'm convinced. Thanks. Lol.
"I'm an atheist, not illiterate" - that had me in stitches. 😂
Me too.
Apparently, this guy thinks they mean the same thing, since he used to be an "atheist" but had never heard of any of this.
LMFAO. 😅😅😅😅😅
I could tell he was lying the moment he claimed that god told him something.
Of course, but it's always fun to hear what god told them. 😂
"God put it on my heart" is just saying "I thought this was a really good idea!"
@@KonamiRelicto me, god put it on my heart, is like saying, I want to blame someone else in case this offends you
Truth is when we used to say God put this on my heart we lie all the time. We only say it to not seem selfish and be more relatable/manipulating.
Atheists: “I am the dark, I am the night… I am Batman”
"I was an atheist, then I prayed to a god."
If you are praying to something, you obviously already believe in the thing.
I'm an Atheist, so I don't pray to god. Why would I.
“I was a Christian- then I prayed to Allah, Vishnu, Thor, Mars, and Apollo- I just wanted to cover all my bases”. 🙄
@@theunknownatheist3815 You may have seen The Mummy one to many times.
I'm a professional atheist for my job, but at home I'm Henotheistic.
The lights are on, but nobody's home.
I am amazed how God always tells others what He want me to do!
I'm equally amazed how the things God wants from his followers are exactly what they want to do. It's not like theists ever say, "I personally hate immigration, but God says I have to welcome them, so I do."
@@nmappraiser9926 God is clearly pro-immigration, and there are Biblical laws for taking care of immigrants. Haven't you read all the times God reminds Israel to care for the strangers, since the Jews were once strangers in Egypt? God ordered the Jews to not glean their land, so that strangers, etc. could eat. If memory serves, they were also not to harvest the corners of their fields for the same reason. BUT, I would imagine God was also not for breaking the law to immigrate.
@@BaptistJoshua That's my point. God is pro-immigration. God's followers are anti-immigration. So they ignore what the Bible actually says, and impose their own politics. Then they "imagine" God is on their side, as you just did.
I SEEN THE LIGHT AFTER WATCHINGTHIS VID!
Not that I became a xtian, I just turned on the lamp on my table.
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Praised be!!!
You're a moth!
You had blind faith that it would work, right? Or had it proved itself to you so many times that you believed it worked?
Fear only works if you believe the devil actually exists. Otherwise its just another yawnfest
I mean, if anything, it actually makes me less afraid because it already contradicts an all-powerful God who apparently can be rivalled by something he created and knew would come to be?
Yeah, give the Devil his,Due, and why would you create something that you knew was going to turn against you one day? I thought the invisible sky wizard was supposed to be all-knowing. Then he let Satan keep his superpowers🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
I was thinking:
I have 3 nieces. I love them so much.
But hypothetical: if I knew that in 30 years, one of my nieces was going to take a life would that push me from not having a relationship with them before that time?
IDK... I think I would allow it, but maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate.😅
@@mustachemac5229 You leave out a lot of things out of that reasoning.
You create those nieces and you can make them in any way you want and change them in any way you want. And you didn't even make any promises not to do so. You can prevent that life taking on a whim, but not only you chose not to. You created the niece so that she's bound to take the life in 30 years and you created the life she will take and you will punish this piece of dominos for falling in the way that you set it up to fall.
It's like playing with dolls and setting them on fire in the end for taking part in the scenario of which you enacted every detail.
@@vojtechpribyl7386 I see what you mean and you make some good points but let me reply with a little rebuttal.
Even if I know that my niece is going to perform such an act, I must also consider that my niece has free will and that there is a possible world where my niece does not take the action and there is a world where my niece does take the action. This is the dichotomy that I am presenting.
So let's put ourselves in the world where my niece does take the action... Do I not have a relationship with my niece just because in 30 years she's going to perform such an act?
Take a second to think about what I'm saying.
@@mustachemac5229 Oh no no. She's an angel. She's fully a creature of his, because we were talking about Lucifer here and all that free will nonsense are concerned with man. That's for the start. Then you have to admit that all that free will is actually just an excuse anyway, because the creation is exactly to the last detail made to the will of this god and there is nothing happening that he didn't foresee and order to happen, so all the puppets are free to act exactly as they were created to act. The may think they have a choice, but they are just playing in a scenario pre-set to get exactly the outcomes the god set them to generate.
@@vojtechpribyl7386 Yes I understand where you're coming from but again I need you to step into the dichotomy that I presented.
We have two possible worlds here.
We have one world where my niece will perform the action and we have one world where my niece does not perform the action.
In the world where my niece does perform the action, do I not have a relationship with my niece just because of the action that she's going to perform 30 years from now?
This is the question I'm asking.
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"Dear: People who do not believe that God exists. As you all know, God exists, but did you know that..."
Quoting the bible to prove the bible, sorry Bub, that fish don't swim.
So how exactly do you prove math? By the way, you cannot use math to prove math. Use something other than math to prove it.
@@BaptistJoshua We can use the actuality of the real world that math represents. Take one apple, split it equally in two and you have 2/2 an apple. Math is simply a representation of what is actually happening in our world. Which is why we can apply it to the real world. You can apply this concept to any math proof and prove them the same way you would in any math class.
“Hey atheists, have you ever considered…my religion is totally right?”
This one isn’t a real thinker, imo, or he is massively indoctrinated.
A bit from column a and bit from column b
INDOCTINATED = BRAIN WASHED
Insert [Why not both?] meme here.
He is trying to talk like a youth pastor to 7th graders not realizing we are mentally more like college graduates and have critical thinking and reasoning skills. I once talked to a Christian about Scientology and its beliefs and she was floored and said it sounded wild. I was like yeahhhhhh and? She said “thank God we believe in the truth.” Some people are deep into it.
"who are you to say what's right for me when your eyes are blinded by Faith..."
-Shawn James, lake of fire
I think the first major crack in the walls of my faith came when I realized that I couldn't use the Bible to convince non-believers to believe in God, because it was suddenly obvious that they wouldn't give a shit what the Bible had to say. That realization led me to take some Christian theology classes in university (a secular university that had a tiny little Catholic campus on it), and boy... was that ever an eye-opener. My faith started to fall apart VERY quickly after taking those classes.
Also, his thing about asking God to show that he's real... yeah, no atheist (and certainly not one who used to be a devoted Christian) ever thought of trying THAT. Hahahaha...
That's the point in their arrogance they think that atheists really do believe in their invisible sky wizard we just want to sin that is why when they quote different versions of Romans 1:20 to me it goes in one ear and out the other.
That's one of the main problems I have with them: they claim to be humble because they believe in a "higher power", yet when they speak, they do so with arrogance, lacking total self-awareness.
@@collegerebelyep- they have all the answers to life’s questions but us atheists who claim we don’t know are the arrogant ones. 🙄
I have dealt with atheists for about 25 years or so. If you really get to know them, you find out that most of them, in the end, feel guilty over...masturbation. 😒 Weird. But eventually they finally admit that that is the big deal for them.
@@collegerebel I am a born again Christian, and I fully agree with your statement. But then again, according to the Bible, most Christians are fakes. So why don't you see what IT says, and not so much worrying about what they say?
@@theunknownatheist3815 No. A Christian, if he knows his/her Bible, or is being used of God, can know the answers to a question, but they got it from God. What questions do you have?
So either God is too weak to defeat Satan or he is using him to screw with the humans. Wonderful
Or, more likely, neither actually exist to be able to do anything. Except the humans, I'm pretty sure humans exist. Probably...
@@CeanStrauss I noticed a cat phasing in and out, so who knows 🤷♂️
Book of Job - God literally makes a bet with Satan that Job will still worship him even after God completely fucks up the man's life. So, yes, we are "God's little play things."
@@Grauenwolf No. As a child has no sin in being without clothes, or as animals do not, so man did not. There was no sin in Adam and Eve, and they were married.
@@KonamiRelic Nope. Read it again. It is Satan who does those things, and God who orders him not too go too far.
"This is for the atheists out there". Cites the Bible. ... Amazing!
If you make the blanket statement that using the Bible to prove the Bible is wrong, then I would ask you to prove math, but you cannot prove math. Prove to me that any author's non-fictional book is right or wrong, but you cannot quote from it.
Will Christians ever get that parroting the book gets nowhere?? I have yet to hear any Christian be as convincing and authentic as a baseball super-fan or serious classical music enthusiast where the passion simply bubbles out of them in a way that almost makes me want to go to a game or learn the violin. The Christian yammers out a sales program. Yes, cold-calling does get sales, but not anywhere near the persuasion when your friend is excited or inspired by their X hobby or interest. It almost makes me feel sorry for the Christian. They have no real experience to share so then end up sounding like that creator.
But they have nothing else! Tell a Christian to prove God to you *without* using Bible and they will immediately flounder.
@@FrikInCasualMode not necessarily, look at the trees arguments, among others. Depends on which crappy arguments they have heard before.
You find the same in any fandom. People discuss lore, have favorites, intense fights, factions, you name it.
can they just truly not understand that someone can not care about the bible?
Like more than 80% of the current world population.
It does not matter in the least whether someone cares or not. If God is going to save them, the Bible WILL work. That is why I try to limit apologetics, and just get the atheist to read the Bible. Which they won't. I think they secretly fear it. If I lived in a muslim country, I would want to read their gibberish. If elsewhere, that book. They cannot both claim to be sincere, and also refuse to even study it.
I must be doing something wrong that God doesn’t reveal himself to me .
You and Magic Skeptic are my new favorite atheist creators. Nice work.
_I have a message for nonbelievers from the very thing they don’t believe in_ Religionists really truly don’t understand how this works do they?
It's almost like he realizes as he goes along in the video. How insane what he's saying sounds.
But he doesn't let it stop him.
😂😂😂
I have been given similar advice before. I was told to "just pray" in response to my lack of Christianity as well as my general dislike of it. The advice made me laugh a lot, but it also frustrated me that no one has any good arguments.
“You aren’t just walking in darkness…….you ARE darkness”
So basically…….I’M BATMAN 😂😂😂
I'm an atheist - not an illiterate: I love it!
As a former theist, I do remember once believing that everyone knew The Truth when they heard it. So he and others may think that by quoting scripture they will 'wake up' 'sleeping' spirits. But in reality, people know when they hear something they like, whether it's true or not. That's one possibility why they think this sort of blabbering works.
Babbling for Jesus.
Sad.
"The Bible says don't love the things of the world, for he who loves the things of the world does not have the love of the Father in him." Wait, didn't this "Father" supposedly create the things of the world? Are we not supposed to love His creation?
The greatest trick that God ever pulled was convincing the world that he actually exists.
Yup.
religion is dog shit.
This is about as logical as claiming the Universe created itself.
Then I must have grown pointy ears and had my blood turn green in my sleep again.
@@BaptistJoshua blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah . there's no god. I also wipe my ass with the bible....
@@BaptistJoshua also tronald dump lost 2020 and is going to prison.
Why do theists ALWAYS think that we’ll be converted just by being quoted to from their book?
theists THINK? That's new.
Bro it makes so much sense now! A flabberghast has flabbered your bladder, now you're flabberghasted! Obviously you have to ghast the flabber out of your bladder to be clean again. It's all written on the Globberglobe!
How much ghast could a flabberghast flabber if a flabberghast could flabber ghast?
I'm sure the apologist lacks the awareness required to recognize the arrogance inherent in regurgitating his religion's holy book and dogmas and expecting anyone else to care. I'm sure he knows that _he_ wouldn't instantly convert if a Muslim did the same thing to him.
“Who’s more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?”
Evangelism this inept would only convince those without cognitive health.
yup 'subject yourself to my rules and you will be free' 🤣🤣🤣. you have a book? thats cute so do I
Why is he talking to non-believers like they believed? You forget that he also believes it's written on everyone's heart and that he's actually thinks that he is speaking to the choir? From his POV he is right and just needs to remind you, because it's you who's willingly walked from the right path that you internally know to be the right path and thus doesn't need to actually convince you.
That fairy tale book is (part of) the REASON I don't believe in God. So reading from it wil certainly NOT make me believe in him. Theists just don't get that.
Jesus and God are here to Free me to a life of Enslavement to God. Seems like a bad deal to me.
"... those who do not believe" - With that little pause at the beginning, am I the only one who got some "those who shall not be named" vibes from it? 😂
Not sure if telling people they're captive to an evil demon that he read about in a book is necessarily the best approach when "saving" atheists.
Of course if you DO sincerely ask god to show you he's real, and nothing happens, it's because you weren't REALLY sincere!
And if you think you're living a happy fulfilling life, you're not REALLY happy, you're just confused because you're living in darkness!!
Gotta gaslight to evangelize.
why does god need this guy when he could talk directly to me?
As a former Muslim, that's the same thing that hit me. Why does God rely on inefficient methods of communication like needing to give "personal revelations" to one dude who can't provide any other evidence of divine communion and must use fragile and easily tempered "holy" books to give his message
Thanks!
I'm baptized every day in the shower. I'm good then, right ?
Not according to the Bible. Baptism is only for Christians, not for the unsaved *becoming* Christians. Think of it like a honeymoon. A honeymoon is good AFTER marriage, but going on a honeymoon does not make one married.
@@BaptistJoshua It's all mythology....no worries.
@@eminence_front6043 is the sin you protect masturbating? I often learn of atheists that it is.
Well done! The baptistjoshua guy became your official house troll down in the comments.
May he long boost the algorithm with his n0nsense.
So.....I am the darkness.....lol. That sounds pretty cool like a line from the super cool villain in a film. I will start using that. Just walk around saying "I am the darkness!"
"I know you don't believe my book, but here's what my book says about that!"
Have you ever noticed that when people pray they close their eyes, as if they are imagining god, because he's imaginary.
Maybe God is darkness...
@@aaronpolichar7936Hello Darkness my old friend…
@@Nocturnalux... I've come to talk to you again.
I don't know about anyone else, but my (human) father taught me to close my eyes while praying. He never gave a reason, of course, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who was taught that way.
Who told this man he should be on UA-cam?
Who watched this and said “Man, this is amazing!”
Cuz someone said this. I know they did.
If all theists were gagged, all gods would fall silent.
It's funny how this all-powerful God just can't do anything unless his followers have a say in it. It's like God only follows the wills of his "lesser" creations, whatever they want
The problem is that, to them, talking about "christian reality" is like us talking about the laws of nature. We know they exist, we can measure them and see their effects, and we talk about them as if their reality is a given. Religious people have convinced themselves of their reality, but will not acknowledge that their standards of evidence and units of measurement are garbage that you wouldn't use for anything else in life. That's why they don't hear it the way we do.
I saw a meme on instagram today that asked why black people worship white jesus. I have no idea what “worship” means, but I really don’t see why anyone would want to associate in any way at all with any of the religions that enslaved your ancestors. 🤔
There’s black Jesus as well.
@@Nocturnalux Sure, but the abrahamic religions are slavers’ religions anyway. 🤷
@@Nocturnalux Either way, all three of the abrahamic cults are patriarchal, authoritative, and supports keeping people in involuntary servitude. So it makes no sense to convert like some have done either. 🤷
As an Ex-born again Christian I've heard it all before, & the points you make are absolutely on point. & if you want to know why I am no longer a Christian, the simple reason is.......I read the bible. & by the time I finished Revelation I was no longer a beleiver. Because I guess I have something that Theists dont, Critical thinking.
What, specifically, did you have issue with?
Even if the God of the Bible is real, it is not worthy of worship since you are more moral than that invisible, anthropomorphic immortal.
This is a pretty bad message, but if this is the worst message for atheists you've ever seen, I envy you.
I'm enjoying my coffee, youtubing, retired, financially secured, happy to be living in...Satan's Prison, stalag 666. Lol!!!
I LOOOOVE the argument of "you have to believe it to understand it"... or in his case "you have to come to your senses". It's just so... circular. 🤦♀️
You have to study math to understand math. You will never understand math if you are not exposed to it.
@@BaptistJoshua and you never know that I run 100 m in 9.97 seconds unless I DEMONSTRATE this non-magical, not even world record sprint.
please, now that you know how evidence works, feel free to rant about the supernatural. a.k.a magic. It will convince us all. Possibly :- )
(hint for your rants: you have presented as much evidence so far as islam, hinduism, and all religi0ns ever: Exactly 0.00000)
you are really brain dead.
When he said God put it on his heart to say this and that he was obeying the command, I heard, "I have an imaginary friend that told me to tell you this. I also obey my imaginary friend."
He could cut out the imaginary friend and just say and do what he thinks he should. If your imaginary friend is saying it, it's you saying it.
To the nonbeliever, an assertion that the Lord told you to do something so you are complying sounds a whole lot like you decided to do something and are blaming God.
"The Lord put this on my heart...."
Did The Lord do surgery? I''ve had open-heart surgery, got a foot-long scar to prove it. Not really that bad, believe it or not. I had had a Doctor do it, he bypassed a couple clogged arteries. I've been much better since. You do know that the heart is a blood pump. Why do you religious types insist in saying stupid things like that. It's as though you live in fantasy world that doesn't actually exist where a God puts stuff on you blood pump.
Imagine if I said .: Bugs Bunny put a bunch of carrots on my spleen."
Wouldn't you think I was out of my mind?
Dude, you need to grow up. You should be embarrassed.
The stomach has so many neurons that it's often referred to by neurologists as the second brain..
Sometimes strong emotions can literally make ya vomit.
Vomiting requires lots of core muscle to flex quite strongly.
Even non-puking flexing can be easily detected, at least unconsciously.
That likely squeezes the chest also, and consequently the heart.
Hearts are kinda important, so the brain pays very close attention to any physical feelings involving the heart.
Emotions are chemical actions.
So emotional feelings are generated by the *_physiology_* producing them.
Emotions get equated the physiology.
"..I feel it in my.. uhh.. chest- no heart.. I feel it in my heart !!"
_(what, do you feel..?)_
"The TRUTH !!"
Or at least that's my chain of thinking.. 🤣
@@Dr_Wrong Yes, I’ve heard of research with fat cells in various parts of the body affecting the brain. So what does that sort discovery have to do with the creator of all things writing and on your blood pump. It’s just hyperbole wrapped in nonsense. If you know there’s a god, trot this thing out or tell everyone how you verified its existence.
Until then it’s woo and bs spouting from the mouths of the credulous and liars.
I think that this guy is so anxious to make a video that he will say anything. LOL
I am confused. I don't think wish flesh, nor with some supernatural spirit - I use my grey matter (the brain). The rest, of course, is even less meaningful. He speaks like I imagine someone possessed would talk, if possession was a real thing.
I recommend that he study Ecclesiastes. Maybe also the Song of Songs.
No holy spirit for me, please, I don't like intoxicating substances.
Oh boy. Hearing that guy, I certainly get the impression I know more about the truth than he does - he seems to be living in fantasy land.
I'd love to see what would happen if these peple ever sat down and thought about what they were saying. Never going to happen, thinking and religion are oxymorons.
Why couldn’t god put the message on my heart? Why does god always have to use a believer to try and persuade the unbeliever? If he can take the time to put a message on someones heart surely he can have a 5 minute chat with me?
Because the Bible. Ok. Got it.
Am I getting this right?Even if I am happy in my life I am not happy because Jesus? I am so glad that this guy is around to tell me what I truly think and feel. I couldn’t have done it without him.
I love how these Christians start off with a blasphemous lie. He's claiming to be a prophet of God.
If Satan is gods adversary , then why would the people who go to hell for not believing in God be punished ? You'd think Satan would reward them , right ?
There is no mention in the bible about Satan being a fallen angel.
Believe in me, and I will save you from what I'm going to do to you if you don't believe in me. --Jesus.
How's your family doing my bro? Is your dad recovering well?
he's doing pretty great so far
8:31 He said it, there it is!
Who would anyone consider more evil and vindictive, a demon who allows you to live life how you want or a god who insists you worship and obey every word?. And let's not forget dubious morality? Seems christianity is the wrong path and one of oppression and control
So you prefer the Parent who allows you to do anything you like, instead of the loving Parent you enforces boundaries for your good. Got it.
Dubious morality? Such as?
3:04 "Jesus says... ": Jesus doesn't say anything, the correct way to phrase it is, John says what "Jesus said", Luke says what he heard other people say what "Jesus said" etc etc
Apologists post videos to convince themselves. They can't possibly believe that any atheist is convinced by their magical wishful thinking.
Ps, why do they always sound and look so miserable???? If that's the Holy Spirit then I'll pass and have the alcohol spirit instead. Ta.
Whatever the state of my life, I can be fairly certain that some actions won't improve my well-being in the slightest. Dedicating myself to a deity is one of those actions. I don't deny that humankind, collectively, could be doing much better for ourselves. No quick fix exists though. The only valid method of doing better is to...do better. Jesus won't provide you with an escape pod from the universe we live in.
I work with a Christian girl. Beautiful, lovely woman. We were talking recently and somehow got on the topic of mercury. She's like, "what's mercury?" I was shook. Like, you've never heard of either of them?
Tell her about The Witch from Mercury.
How about Freddie Mercury?
@@darkfalcon7856 fr
I am an atheist: Please prove that god is real and it has the properties that you think it has. Then please prove that the devil is real and that he does the things that you think he does. Thanks.
Well, there's this book, right.. 🤣
@@Dr_Wrongwas it written in the Latin script or the Arabic script?
@@littleredpony6868 _"was it written in the Latin script or the Arabic script?"_
?? Wot!
ENGLISH!! Jesus and all old testament peoples spoke ENGLISH, obviously, duh.
'Merca is the the whole world and all human history, right?? 🤣🤣
@@Dr_Wrong oh silly me. Everyone speaks English, even when it doesn’t make sense, just like Star Trek
@@littleredpony6868
🤣🤣
This Kang has been conquered.. 😒😒😒
Can the whole "throw Satan out of heaven" thing be supported from the Bible? I think it's better supported from Paradise Lost by John Milton.
his magic spell failed on me, too
Oh, see, wait a minute, this guy just convinced me! He is using Scriptures to prove his assertions. No one has ever done that before. He HAS to be right.
I really would love to see where this guy is in 10 to 20 years?
I didnt expect the altar call, but im gonna have to pass. Ive had Jesus before, and i dont think i want it again
This guy started out like he was gonna break up with us 😂
The worst thing a theist can do is to preach to an atheist, and i'm a theist. The best way to engage in one of these lectures is for a theist to shut his mouth and zip it up.
When i tell Protestants that the Church is the authority, not the Bible, they go into crazy mode and condemn me to hell !
I hope this guy is reading the correct Bible. Some Bibles have added Scripture, some have deleted Scripture, some have altered Scripture, and some are corrupt.
Same difference, whether “the bible” or “Church” is “the authority”.
Out of curiosity, what would you consider to be the "correct" Bible? I don't have a dog in the fight, as an atheist, but I also have several Protestant translations (ESV, NRSB, NIV, etc.) as well as a Catholic Bible Douay-Rheims/Latin Vulgate ). Would any those qualify as the "correct" Bible?
@@martinmckee5333 It was by Apostolic Tradition the the Catholic Church discerned which writings were to be included in the list of the Sacred Books. This complete list is called the Canon of Scripture. It includes 46 books for the Old Testament and 27 for the New. During the Reformation. Martin Luther removed 7 Books from the Old Testament. These are known as the Deuterocanonical Books. So Protestants use a bible with only 66 Books. Any Catholic Bible would be OK.
@@aussierob7177 Thank you for your thoughts. I do generally know the profile of the Protestant Bible's history, though I wouldn't pretend to remember dates or numbers well. I guess it does make more sense to me to accept the earliest list of books as more representative, though I do have greater faith in more modern - scholarly - translations.
Cheers.
Oh, my good …! I fear the day when this guy goes to cast his vote for something important that can affect the lives of others.
You can just say explicitly "I don't like democracy as a form of government" It'll save you a lot of words.
You know how you don’t believe in god? Well, god has a magical enemy that, for some reason, he can’t defeat and clearly you believe in, right?
The only darkness I'll be in is the darkness when the solar eclipse comes. I can't wait
The hottest fire known to exist is black. Darkness. Something to consider.
You are becoming the enemy of Arthur and a friend of Mordred!
Nuh uh, i cast. . .EXUH SCALIBUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
@@someguywithalowbudget1320 The sword of the spirit? Excalibur? Same same.
I mean...depending on the version of the story you want to pick, Mordred could be considered very much a victim of his mothers manipulation. Besides, Mordred isnt so bad. She just wanted to take some of the weight of her fathers shoulders. And prove that she was worthy of Arthur.
@@marcusreading3783 she? he? confusing pronouns in your response. doesn't matter.
Let's all be friends with Morgan le Fay, then.
@@msdaphne Nope, I went from referring to 'canon' Mordred (as much as that counts for anything with the Arthurian legends), to the one from Fate. Who is a woman.
God is always do as I say and then Satan comes by and says go ahead, that guy is a controlling jerk.
I’ve always thought that selling believes on their god is evil and that you must worship him or he will punish you. Just one step away.
With believers acting the way they do seeming to demonstrate that they worship the bad guy. Why not? Pascal’s wager can be applied right?…
God has a wonderful plan for your life. If you are one of the elect. Otherwise, you will burn in hell forever. What a loving god!
Isn't it nice to just make up anything you want about god, and then claim that he's looking out for you without any evidence, even in the bible, that this is the case?
He said Lucifer? Well bad news Lucifer isn't even in the bible it's a translation error, but Satan or the Devil is in the bible, but let's be real they don't exist, I love greek mythology, but does it mean the greek gods are real? No
He makes appeals to selfish pride, spiteful envy, and vengeful wrath. He may want to contemplate Jesus's counteroffer to God's pride, envy, and wrath, his appeals to humility, acceptance, and forgiveness. Appeals to pride, envy, & wrath are anti-Christ and against what we perceive as Christ's nature.
This dude is bad at this
I was born just fine the first time.
i would not leave that dude alone with a rabbid pitbull for fear of bad shit happening to the dog let alone put an iota of spiritual faith in him. yikes!!