Your level of knowledge and your ability to articulate that knowledge, leaves me speechless. I wish I could drop everything and just listen to your videos. I've learned from you, more about church history and Christianity than I have learned from reading books written by Christian authors. You have helped me to recognize that Torah and Tanakh is where I begin to learn truth.
naweofiam Ah yes he’s Good However I don’t agree with everything he says. Sometimes his Logic is wrong. He should take some Time and pray and ask God himself.
@@tinopacino9400 That logic fo (adk God) is not correct.. You must read Torah.. It is simple to follow what in there.. If you do this, you will drop christianity definately
First, Mr. Singer doesn’t mention that the Septuagint--one of the oldest versions of the Jewish Bible (which is much older than the Masoretic)--also has that line. This indicates that this line *existed* in the oldest versions of the Jewish Bible (plural)! Second, given that we have the extant copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint, Mr. Singer’s allegation that a scribe must have copied a similar line and then inserted it in the text is highly unlikely. For example, Isa. 2.19 & Isa. 2.21 are virtually identical. But it doesn’t follow that Isa. 2.19 was inserted later by a scribe who was copying Isa. 2.21. This is preposterous. Repetition of lines is quite common in the Bible. Therefore, there is very, very strong historical evidence that the line in Psalm 145 is *original* because it is found in the 2 oldest versions of the Jewish Bible. Given that the Masoretic is a much later text (from the 10 century AD), and given that it is often corrupted by later scribes (see e.g. Deut. 32.8), Mr. Singer’s argument is both fallacious and unwarranted❗️
39 Books of Tanakh -- oh God. Tanak is More Then Hadith Books. Quran 17-02 >>And I gave Moses the Scripture and made it a guidance for the Children of Israel that you not take other than Me as Disposer of affairs. One God -- One Book.
And how does he explain the Septuagint which was a translation to Greek of the Hebrew Bible by Jewish Rabbis in the 2nd century *BC* , that also has the same missing line? Was the scribe who added to the scroll of the Essenes also working on the Septuagint? And since when two lines differing in one or 2 words mean one of them must be fake? the Bible is full of similar occurrences. It is true that the majority of today's Tanach is identical to the dead sea scrolls, and that's very important. But little variations can also be important like *1* letter changed in psalm 22:16 where the ancient version says (just like the Septuagint) "they pierced my hands and my feet", but all modern Hebrew versions have something else entirely (that doesn't even make sense).
@@yjkxmpl The library of Alexandria was burned down in the seventh century AD. The oldest manuscripts we have of the Septuagint are from the FOURTH CENTURY.
Rabbi Singer, if the 14th line of psalm 145 is an interpolation invented by a scribe in Qumran (so between about 100BCE and 100 CE) then why is that same passage also present in the Greek Septuagint (3rd century BCE) and the Syriac Christian Peshitta (2nd century CE)? The Septuagint predates the Qumran text by about 200-300 years. And the Peshitta is about 100-200 years after Qumran. So we have this passage in three independend sources from different areas and over a period of 500 years. What is your explanation for this? Did three scribes make up the exact same addition? And what about psalm 151 which is also found in both the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint and the Peshitta? Also, aren't repetitions quite common in the Bible? There are entire books written about this. So why does this repetition indicate an interpolation by a scribe? Would love to hear your thoughts.
@@bennywolfe4357 Ok let’s compare: Peshitta: Lord Jehovah is faithful in his words and righteous in all his works Septuagint: The Lord is faithful in his words, and holy in all his works Qumran: Trustworthy is the Lord in all his words, and righteous in all his ways Sure there is some variation (obviously, these are sources in different languages and centuries apart) but I think it’s pretty obvious that these are all substantially the same passage.
All prises to our god. Amazing explanation. I feel it is god's arrangement to avoid letter nun in ancient days and god reveals the corruption thru the letter nun. truth always prevail. when the truth comes the false will have perished. I pray our god to bless Rabbai with the strength to proclaim the truth to this world.
Theologians said Torah was the word of G-d, in this case, it has been found not so. Are they saying the Torah was lacking? Yes, that's what they're saying. Rabbis over the years have stated "if a single letter of Torah were inaccurate the text would not be divine." They would criticize Christian texts where errors are published clear. The presence of a single variation in the Torah is thus VERY serious indeed. For if there is one variation, it follows that there could be others, even many variations that yet lurk in the text. Hebrew University tells us there are HUNDREDS of discrepancies between the modern text and the Targumim, and HUNDREDS of discrepancies between the modern text and the dead sea scrolls! This has resulted in a 200 year project which has the goal of returning us to the original Torah !?!? ...unfortunately nobody knows what that is... The Rabbis know the Masoretic text we read is but an opinion. Nobody knew, or knows with absolute certainty which vowels go where, they cannot admit it however because as long as the Torah is the word of G-d they have a job. The world we live in is a picture of the Torah, for the world we live in is governed at the very top by the laws of that text. The fact that the world we live in is a mess should be proof enough that the Torah is the word of the Elohim not Hashem, for if Hashem had wanted to give us instruction, it would have been instinct coded in our very DNA, we would know it without study, rarely sin, and no theologian could do business by "interpreting" it.
The oldest texts in continuous use do not agree with this variation of the text. The proof of our valid tradition is that no other Hebrew text of the Psalms agrees with this variation. I must assume that Hebrew is not your native language, and that you also do not read Hebrew, or you would have understood sooner what he is saying. You should also know that the sect of Qumran practiced celibacy, and that is probably why they are not around today.
first, elohim is hashem, second, and obviously you dont understand one of the most basic concepts of what we believe in which is the world is a test. Hashem gave us free will so we have a choice to do what we think we should do, if they turn away from God, it is their choice and they failed the test, if they turn to God, it is their choice and that choice is correct.
At Dublin’s Trinity College there is one medieval Hebrew manuscript with the נ verse of Psalm 145 which appears in this manuscript (as a footnote) of as: נאמן יהוה בכל דבריו וחסיד בכול מעשיו [The LORD is faithful in all his words and holy in all his works] “The Lord is faithful in his words and holy in all his works." for is the נ verse in the Septuagint. "God is faithful in his ways and holy in all his works." is the נ verse in the DSS 11Q5.scroll11Q5 "The Lord is faithful in his words and righteous in all his works." is the Syriac translation of the נ verse. The first Christian Syriac translation was the only Christian translation in the first 400 years not based on the Greek Old Testament / the Peoples Bible (the Septuagint) but on a pre-Masoretic Hebrew text which happens to agree with the Septuagint. Although it can be argued that the נ verse is a gratuitous redundancy of Verse 17, the verses fit both inner meanings of the different Hebrew letters. The Nuun letter is the symbol of faithfulness (ne’eman נאמן), soul (Neshama נשמה), and emergence. The nuun stands for humility, as it is bent both above and below. The Tsadde letter represents the Tsaddik, the person who is just, as well as the righteousness of the Creator. The Tzaddik strives to be true, loving justice and fairness, straight and fully honest with their conscience. It's common knowledge that acrostic Psalms are composed on each letter’s inner meaning(s). Also, Strong's # 5125. Nuwn, noon; a primary root; to re-sprout, i.e. to propagate by shoots; figuratively to be perpetual; -be continued. root - underlying support and basis: ORIGIN. - a heart. the Septuagint Esaias 53:1 he is as a root in a thirsty land Masoretic Text Isaiah 53:1 he is a root out of dry ground Strong's # 5126. Nuwn, noon, or Nown (1 Chron. 7:27), nohn; perpetuity; from 5125; Non, Or Nun, father of Joshua. (Greek.) Naue, father of Iesous. Joshua and Jesus are both spelled Iesous in Greek. “Iesus” is how Jesus is spelled in the 1611 AD edition of the KJV. (Note: Strong’s Greek Dictionary is wrong, Iesous isn’t pronounced Ee-soo-us. In Greek, when “I” precedes a vowel, it is pronounced like a “Y”. And in Latin, for example, Julius is spelled with an I and pronounced Yoo-lee-us.)
Not very convincing. Psalms repeat lines all the time. Especially acrostics. Just look at Psalms 119. Lots of repetition. Sorry, but acrostic means acrostic. The Greek Septuagint has kept that missing verse all these years.
It seems that you do not like to converse when it is a challenge to you that I might be telling you the truth if you wish to take me off of your program like you told me go ahead and do it but I am learning a lot
Nathan - I think Mary is making comments to Singer, not to you. Your comments are dead on, by the way, in regards to the Septuagint. It is very convenient that he doesn't bring this up.
== The same sentence can be found in the Septuagint which is a translation from Hebrew to Greek in the second century BC, long before the Masoretic which tells you that the "noon" existed in the original Hebrew text and was removed in the Masoretic. There are many changes in the Masoretic text and this is not the only one.
levonet33 Exactly. Sages which are liars as Yirmeyahu warned apparently forgot to include the Nun line. Oops. “Hashem” is fine with that. Bs! The original Psalms text is correct. It says Faithful is Elohim in His words, and set apart in all His works.
No Septuagint was much later and was just our sages forced to translate the 5 Books of Moses only. That original is lost and it was revised and had the prophets and writings added. Revised many times. All this you can see from an introduction to it. Septuagint is not an argument for any Christian to use especially when talking to a Jew. As soon as we look up and find out about the Septuagint the same I formation the introduction to any Septuagint says then you get mocked
The explainaition provided is argumentative and speculates on the premise of what it may had happened but it does not satisfy the the core of the issue, the different in the body of the text. Being dismissive or putting down the author/scribe doesn't make the issue go away. This is what i have learned: That the scriptures in time, have been modified, text lines have been added or deleted. Mr Singer wants us to believe that an old text may be wrong but the new versions of the Tannach are more faithful to the original spoken text. we need better argument. First we need to discredit the old and more reliable sources. Probe that the Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Christians or alliens and that will help your cause!
The addition of this line does not add any meaning to the text and in fact it does not fit the original version at all. This scribe was a victim of pride, and he violated a Torah precept by pasting and copying, so to speak. The rhythm of the whole song is also ruined by this. Hebrew speakers would know that this is a fraudulent thing to do. But the folks living in Qumran felt that they were superior to other Jews and apparently that led to spiritual pride.
@@72Yonatan It's also in the septuagint, 2 vs 1. Many times even Josephus the Jewish historian quotes verses that are in DSS and LXX but not the MT. Proof LXX has a stronger tradition and more of a closer relation to the original torah.
...by now, we already understood that the Jews in Qumran were free spirits, artists, creative beings with a serious problem with authority. What is the book of Enoch? Fiction. The first bestseller selling best...today! Should be given credit for that, but in the literature field.
It's also In the septuigant. Talks about David and Goliath.. Psalm 151 [Greek] This additional psalm is said to have been written by David when he fought Goliath in single combat. 1 I was small among my brothers, and the youngest of my father’s sons. I was shepherd of my father’s sheep. 2 My hands made a musical instrument; my fingers strung a lap harp. 3 Who will tell my Lord? The Lord himself, the Lord hears me. 4 The Lord himself sent his messenger, and took me away from my father’s sheep. He put special oil on my forehead to anoint me. 5 My brothers were good-looking and tall, but the Lord didn’t take special pleasure in them. 6 I went out to meet the Philistine, who cursed me by his idols. 7 But I took his own sword out of its sheath and cut off his head. So I removed the shame from the Israelites.
Notice Tovia Singer’s Intellectual Dishonesty --- In Psalm 145, both the *Dead Sea Scrolls* and the *Septuagint* (the two oldest versions of the Hebrew Bible) *have an extra line* that is missing from the 10th century Masoretic text. Therefore, from the point of view of textual criticism, this line was originally present and was not interpolated or inserted in the text by a later scribe, as Tovia Singer erroneously suggests. It is present in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Septuagint records it as line 13a (in-between lines 13 & 14): 13 ἡ βασιλεία σου βασιλεία πάντων τῶν αἰώνων, καὶ ἡ δεσποτεία σου ἐν πάσῃ γενεᾷ καὶ γενεᾷ. *13a πιστὸς κύριος ἐν τοῖς λόγοις αὐτοῦ καὶ ὅσιος ἐν πᾶσι τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ. 14 ὑποστηρίζει κύριος πάντας τοὺς καταπίπτοντας καὶ ἀνορθοῖ πάντας τοὺς κατερραγμένους. (It is recorded as “Ps 144” in the LXX). ---
I'd like to know more about the age differences in children of Shem, Ham, and Japeth, people use to say Masoretic Text and its chronology are corrupted.
The Genesis 5 and 11 Genealogy and Chronology Research Project began several years ago to critically investigate the genealogies of Genesis 5:3-32 and 11:10-32, which are integral to the primeval history of Genesis 1-11. What the Project found, Henry B. Smith reports in a superb article that has several very detailed charts named: MT, SP, or LXX? Deciphering a Chronological and Textual Conundrum in Genesis 5 (it’s online and I recommend reading it so as to have proof of that the Samaritan rabbis worked with the Jewish rabbis in altering their texts to match, namely here to make the sum totals of years in the chronologies match. )
Curiously though the Septuagint does contain this line, or at least a version of it. The wording is not exactly the same but it is the same idea. Maybe that was the tradition the Qumranites were working from? But it is missing in the translation that Jerome did directly from Hebrew into Latin at the end of the 4th century.
Did not KRISTOS or Christ speak ARAMAIC to Aramaic Speaking Jews and GREEK to GREEK speaking Jews and the Apostles Greek and Aramaic to, says a lot to me
@@erics7992 Jesus did not quote the septuagint. We have no idea what he actually did or said in his "debates" with the pharisees. In fact, we dont even have reason to believe they happened. Most of what the early gospels are doing in those scenes are portraying the various views they felt were contradictory and using the character of jesus as a mouthpiece for their hellenistic jewish pagain mish mash religion. For example, jesus trying to justify his followers blatantly breaking Gods law by picking grain on the sabbath by quoting the story of David and the showbread. This is plainly the stupidest citation of scripture i have ever seen in my entire life, there is no way the historical jesus ever said this. A 6 year old would be able to explain why that justification does not fly.
@@erics7992 That is exactly my point, the texts were not in circulation amongst pharasees, their students, or anyone else actually practicing judaism. They used the received text from Ezra and the men of the great assembly, who were prophets, who produced what is the basis for the masoretic text, the literal words uttered from God to moses. So, who used the lxx/greek writings? Saducees, essenes, samaritans, and other heretics. If jesus was a rabbi/pharisee, which many claim he was, then he simply would not have used any greek text in theological debate, especially not for the prophetic writings and other non-pentatuch books. We know that rabbinical law forbids translation of the prophets and writings into greek or any other language (tagums in aramaic are not translations, per se, so they dont count). This is corroborated by the fact that the original septuagint only contained the 5 books of Moses, and nothing else. What probably happened is that the anonymous authors of the gospels heard some stories about jesus and began to write about him. Of course, most of the events in the nt are hearsay, and did not happen, but even so, they were not writing literal histories. The gospel writers were writing 1/2 myths about their rabbi. Seeing as they were either fully hellenized jews or gentiles, they could not read hebrew, and had to use the bible which was available to them, which were the poor greek translations of the actual word of God.
"God doesn't want us to fall." No nun line in 145 in real Torah. But in variant/alternatives...someone puts a nun in. So...the Jews always bounce back. The variants/alternatives? Well...if they've tried to ADD to Torah/Tanahk...the alternatives/variants fall. Makes sense.
And why not be the opposite. And that someone deleted the line because he believed that the( noun) should not exist. Then repeating words in a text like psalms is normal. سلام
Boko Tov Rav Singer. Do you believe in Repentance Tzsavah. Repent. Why , do I say this . Because in the the Cepher of Gad the Seer. Has Psalms ch 144 , 145. In Ch 10. Of Gad the Seer. Psalm 145 has the Nuun Verse. Its your Later Anti Mashiach Ravs who removed this Verse . In 400 ad in Ceasurear . They also removed 4 important verses in Naahum. . Repent and be Truthdul. Zechariah ch 14. Ahava. Rav Emek. Sarina Qld Australia.
a4c01 Yeshua is indeed the messiah but he wasn’t born by a virgin, he’s not part of a trinity, and he was never crucified on a pagan cross of Tau. If you establish his word by 2 or 3 witnesses, line upon line, precept upon precept rightly dividing his word of truth (from lies) and you will find the treasure hidden in a field. You will also find the identity of the false Christ. The truth will set you free. Read Romans 1:3-4 and Romans 1:21-26 very carefully!
The reason for the "omission" of נ and it's verse given in the Talmud is ridiculous. Some rabbi asserted that the reason the letter and verse was left out is because the Hebrew word for ‘falls’ ( נפל ) starts with נ נ has the bad meaning, (just forget all that wisdom and truth), now it is associated with falling and as the psalm is one of praising God, it wasn't included. What garbage!
MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE VALETITY OF THE SHROAD OF TURIN AND WHY IS IT IN THE POSSETION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH INSTEAD OF THE ISRAEL ANTIQUATIES POSSETION WHERE IT RIGHTFULLY BELONG'S?!!
It was stolen by the knights TEMPLAR aka Catholic church DURING the 4th crusade from Hagia Sophia Constantinople. It therefore belongs to the Byzantine aka Greek Orthodox cburch Google 4th crusade and find the truth ALL WILL STAND BEFORE THE LORD ON JUDGEMENT DAY
JUDAISM --- WHY IT IS GOD’S CHOSEN RELIGION To correctly understand the battle royal that explodes between Judaism and Christianity, we must compare salvations: For in Judaism always is the thought that, a divine love affair with God would require both parties choose each other, the proof being that they are grateful for the shared affection. Not so for church goers, as half are filled with pride boasting that they chose salvation, while the other half has an inflated ego thinking they are among the chosen few. Keeping in mind that Zionism is the ultimate conclusion of Christianity, and that the IDF has always been 100% funded by Christians who have since 1776, always loved their invading, colonizing and expansion crazy Empire USA.
Christians do not 100% fund the IDF. Israel has received military credits from the US since 1967. At that time, the USSR began rebuilding the Arab armies in preparation for another attack, which cam in 1973. Currently, US military credits to Israel run about $3.5 billion p/a. Most of these will goto funding F-35 purchases; at over $100 million per aircraft, that's not much. Also, a part of the credits goto fund joint R&D, Iron Dome being the most well known example. Your comment about 1776 is mystifying.
The Guy who was creative wasn’t wrong. Because God is to be trusted he is Nice and very Kind even to the UnGodly . God is Love . I Met the Almighty and felt his Love His Joy His peace . Even though I just saw his Blue eyes and part of his forehead and Hair . If i was allowed to see just his entire Face I would have turned to dust. Just seeing what I saw put me into such Extacy I thought I would die just from that. That’s why I don’t understand when he ordered to Destroy people children and even the Live Stock in Samuel. Then he punished King Saul for being Merciful.. Then you Guys reject Jesus or YaHshua for doing God’s work and showing Gods Glory here on Earth. Doesn’t make sense to me that you Jews don’t even Give Jesus an Ounce of Credit. You guys gave the other prophets of God Credit but when they said stuff you Jews didn’t Like you killed them. Truth hurts .
Your level of knowledge and your ability to articulate that knowledge, leaves me speechless. I wish I could drop everything and just listen to your videos. I've learned from you, more about church history and Christianity than I have learned from reading books written by Christian authors. You have helped me to recognize that Torah and Tanakh is where I begin to learn truth.
naweofiam Ah yes he’s Good However I don’t agree with everything he says. Sometimes his Logic is wrong. He should take some Time and pray and ask God himself.
@@tinopacino9400 he shows you from the book that G-d authored. That is literally relying on what G-d says.
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That logic fo (adk God) is not correct..
You must read Torah.. It is simple to follow what in there..
If you do this, you will drop christianity definately
Thank you so much dear rabbi!
Astounding! Thank you Rabbi Tovia Singer. All Praise to the G-d of Israel!
Rabbi, I love this on video even better that your book version; and that's saying a lot! Shalom
First, Mr. Singer doesn’t mention that the Septuagint--one of the oldest versions of the Jewish Bible (which is much older than the Masoretic)--also has that line. This indicates that this line *existed* in the oldest versions of the Jewish Bible (plural)!
Second, given that we have the extant copies of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Septuagint, Mr. Singer’s allegation that a scribe must have copied a similar line and then inserted it in the text is highly unlikely. For example, Isa. 2.19 & Isa. 2.21 are virtually identical. But it doesn’t follow that Isa. 2.19 was inserted later by a scribe who was copying Isa. 2.21. This is preposterous. Repetition of lines is quite common in the Bible.
Therefore, there is very, very strong historical evidence that the line in Psalm 145 is *original* because it is found in the 2 oldest versions of the Jewish Bible. Given that the Masoretic is a much later text (from the 10 century AD), and given that it is often corrupted by later scribes (see e.g. Deut. 32.8), Mr. Singer’s argument is both fallacious and unwarranted❗️
good work Rabbi
great explanation rabbi.always great to learn from you!
39 Books of Tanakh -- oh God.
Tanak is More Then Hadith Books.
Quran 17-02 >>And I gave Moses the Scripture and made it a guidance for the Children of Israel that you not take other than Me as Disposer of affairs.
One God -- One Book.
Im Jewish, I pray for peace for our people my brother
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Love it , Todah Rabbah Rabbi .
שבת שלום לך , באמת תודה
And how does he explain the Septuagint which was a translation to Greek of the Hebrew Bible by Jewish Rabbis in the 2nd century *BC* , that also has the same missing line?
Was the scribe who added to the scroll of the Essenes also working on the Septuagint?
And since when two lines differing in one or 2 words mean one of them must be fake? the Bible is full of similar occurrences.
It is true that the majority of today's Tanach is identical to the dead sea scrolls, and that's very important.
But little variations can also be important like *1* letter changed in psalm 22:16 where the ancient version says (just like the Septuagint) "they pierced my hands and my feet", but all modern Hebrew versions have something else entirely (that doesn't even make sense).
He has a video on this subject. Look it up.
thete was no such thing as rabbis back then. that was invented later by europeans
they were priests
@@yjkxmpl The library of Alexandria was burned down in the seventh century AD. The oldest manuscripts we have of the Septuagint are from the FOURTH CENTURY.
@Luis Fernando Corrales Ramirez You made an excellent argument but cursing gives people an excuse to ignore what you said.
The original Septuagint didn't have Psalms, only Torah was translated
I'm a Muslim, but I truly respect Rabbi Tovia.
These evangelical people will chase him down as soon as false Messiah joins them. Rabbi Tovia also knows that.
@@islamic_eschatology01 what do you mean?
Rabbi Singer, if the 14th line of psalm 145 is an interpolation invented by a scribe in Qumran (so between about 100BCE and 100 CE) then why is that same passage also present in the Greek Septuagint (3rd century BCE) and the Syriac Christian Peshitta (2nd century CE)? The Septuagint predates the Qumran text by about 200-300 years. And the Peshitta is about 100-200 years after Qumran. So we have this passage in three independend sources from different areas and over a period of 500 years. What is your explanation for this? Did three scribes make up the exact same addition?
And what about psalm 151 which is also found in both the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint and the Peshitta?
Also, aren't repetitions quite common in the Bible? There are entire books written about this. So why does this repetition indicate an interpolation by a scribe? Would love to hear your thoughts.
All three of them have different passages there, not the same passage.
They aren’t the exact same. Just look them up and see the differences.
@@bennywolfe4357 Ok let’s compare:
Peshitta: Lord Jehovah is faithful in his words and righteous in all his works
Septuagint: The Lord is faithful in his words, and holy in all his works
Qumran: Trustworthy is the Lord in all his words, and righteous in all his ways
Sure there is some variation (obviously, these are sources in different languages and centuries apart) but I think it’s pretty obvious that these are all substantially the same passage.
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you could not use English translation ， for Christ sake@@duxd1452
@@duxd1452niv，nasb，esv，nrsv all translate this differently
Wow! Terrific!
All prises to our god. Amazing explanation. I feel it is god's arrangement to avoid letter nun in ancient days and god reveals the corruption thru the letter nun. truth always prevail. when the truth comes the false will have perished. I pray our god to bless Rabbai with the strength to proclaim the truth to this world.
Theologians said Torah was the word of G-d, in this case, it has been found not so. Are they saying the Torah was lacking? Yes, that's what they're saying. Rabbis over the years have stated "if a single letter of Torah were inaccurate the text would not be divine." They would criticize Christian texts where errors are published clear. The presence of a single variation in the Torah is thus VERY serious indeed. For if there is one variation, it follows that there could be others, even many variations that yet lurk in the text.
Hebrew University tells us there are HUNDREDS of discrepancies between the modern text and the Targumim, and HUNDREDS of discrepancies between the modern text and the dead sea scrolls! This has resulted in a 200 year project which has the goal of returning us to the original Torah !?!? ...unfortunately nobody knows what that is...
The Rabbis know the Masoretic text we read is but an opinion. Nobody knew, or knows with absolute certainty which vowels go where, they cannot admit it however because as long as the Torah is the word of G-d they have a job.
The world we live in is a picture of the Torah, for the world we live in is governed at the very top by the laws of that text. The fact that the world we live in is a mess should be proof enough that the Torah is the word of the Elohim not Hashem, for if Hashem had wanted to give us instruction, it would have been instinct coded in our very DNA, we would know it without study, rarely sin, and no theologian could do business by "interpreting" it.
The oldest texts in continuous use do not agree with this variation of the text. The proof of our valid tradition is that no other Hebrew text of the Psalms agrees with this variation. I must assume that Hebrew is not your native language, and that you also do not read Hebrew, or you would have understood sooner what he is saying. You should also know that the sect of Qumran practiced celibacy, and that is probably why they are not around today.
first, elohim is hashem, second, and obviously you dont understand one of the most basic concepts of what we believe in which is the world is a test. Hashem gave us free will so we have a choice to do what we think we should do, if they turn away from God, it is their choice and they failed the test, if they turn to God, it is their choice and that choice is correct.
At Dublin’s Trinity College there is one medieval Hebrew manuscript with the נ verse of Psalm 145 which appears in this manuscript (as a footnote) of as: נאמן יהוה בכל דבריו וחסיד בכול מעשיו
[The LORD is faithful in all his words and holy in all his works]
“The Lord is faithful in his words and holy in all his works." for is the נ verse in the Septuagint.
"God is faithful in his ways and holy in all his works." is the נ verse in the DSS 11Q5.scroll11Q5
"The Lord is faithful in his words and righteous in all his works." is the Syriac translation of the נ verse.
The first Christian Syriac translation was the only Christian translation in the first 400 years not based on the Greek Old Testament / the Peoples Bible (the Septuagint) but on a pre-Masoretic Hebrew text which happens to agree with the Septuagint.
Although it can be argued that the נ verse is a gratuitous redundancy of Verse 17, the verses fit both inner meanings of the different Hebrew letters.
The Nuun letter is the symbol of faithfulness (ne’eman נאמן), soul (Neshama נשמה), and emergence. The nuun stands for humility, as it is bent both above and below.
The Tsadde letter represents the Tsaddik, the person who is just, as well as the righteousness of the Creator. The Tzaddik strives to be true, loving justice and fairness, straight and fully honest with their conscience.
It's common knowledge that acrostic Psalms are composed on each letter’s inner meaning(s).
Also,
Strong's # 5125. Nuwn, noon; a primary root; to re-sprout, i.e. to propagate by shoots; figuratively to be perpetual; -be continued.
root - underlying support and basis: ORIGIN. - a heart.
the Septuagint Esaias 53:1 he is as a root in a thirsty land
Masoretic Text Isaiah 53:1 he is a root out of dry ground
Strong's # 5126. Nuwn, noon, or Nown (1 Chron. 7:27), nohn; perpetuity; from 5125; Non, Or Nun, father of Joshua.
(Greek.) Naue, father of Iesous.
Joshua and Jesus are both spelled Iesous in Greek. “Iesus” is how Jesus is spelled in the 1611 AD edition of the KJV. (Note: Strong’s Greek Dictionary is wrong, Iesous isn’t pronounced Ee-soo-us. In Greek, when “I” precedes a vowel, it is pronounced like a “Y”. And in Latin, for example, Julius is spelled with an I and pronounced Yoo-lee-us.)
That's very interesting. Where did you read about this medieval manuscript? Where can I find information about it?
Once again…the xians bastardizing our Holy Tenach…The Word of HaShem…The CREATOR, THE ONE and ONLY G-D. for Shame!!!
Not very convincing. Psalms repeat lines all the time. Especially acrostics. Just look at Psalms 119. Lots of repetition. Sorry, but acrostic means acrostic. The Greek Septuagint has kept that missing verse all these years.
It seems that you do not like to converse when it is a challenge to you that I might be telling you the truth if you wish to take me off of your program like you told me go ahead and do it but I am learning a lot
Mary McIver
What??
Nathan - I think Mary is making comments to Singer, not to you. Your comments are dead on, by the way, in regards to the Septuagint. It is very convenient that he doesn't bring this up.
== The same sentence can be found in the Septuagint which is a translation from Hebrew to Greek in the second century BC, long before the Masoretic which tells you that the "noon" existed in the original Hebrew text and was removed in the Masoretic. There are many changes in the Masoretic text and this is not the only one.
levonet33 Exactly. Sages which are liars as Yirmeyahu warned apparently forgot to include the Nun line. Oops. “Hashem” is fine with that. Bs! The original Psalms text is correct. It says Faithful is Elohim in His words, and set apart in all His works.
The same sentence cannot be found. They’re different.
No Septuagint was much later and was just our sages forced to translate the 5 Books of Moses only. That original is lost and it was revised and had the prophets and writings added. Revised many times. All this you can see from an introduction to it. Septuagint is not an argument for any Christian to use especially when talking to a Jew. As soon as we look up and find out about the Septuagint the same I formation the introduction to any Septuagint says then you get mocked
The explainaition provided is argumentative and speculates on the premise of what it may had happened but it does not satisfy the the core of the issue, the different in the body of the text. Being dismissive or putting down the author/scribe doesn't make the issue go away. This is what i have learned: That the scriptures in time, have been modified, text lines have been added or deleted. Mr Singer wants us to believe that an old text may be wrong but the new versions of the Tannach are more faithful to the original spoken text. we need better argument. First we need to discredit the old and more reliable sources. Probe that the Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Christians or alliens and that will help your cause!
The addition of this line does not add any meaning to the text and in fact it does not fit the original version at all. This scribe was a victim of pride, and he violated a Torah precept by pasting and copying, so to speak. The rhythm of the whole song is also ruined by this. Hebrew speakers would know that this is a fraudulent thing to do. But the folks living in Qumran felt that they were superior to other Jews and apparently that led to spiritual pride.
@@72Yonatan It's also in the septuagint, 2 vs 1. Many times even Josephus the Jewish historian quotes verses that are in DSS and LXX but not the MT. Proof LXX has a stronger tradition and more of a closer relation to the original torah.
Let's finish our Conversation! It's better so!
Good video here. But I read something about a 151th Chapter of Psalms in the Dead Sea Scrolls, what's with that???
...by now, we already understood that the Jews in Qumran were free spirits, artists, creative beings with a serious problem with authority. What is the book of Enoch? Fiction. The first bestseller selling best...today! Should be given credit for that, but in the literature field.
It's also In the septuigant. Talks about David and Goliath.. Psalm 151 [Greek]
This additional psalm is said to have been written by David when he fought Goliath in single combat.
1 I was small among my brothers,
and the youngest of my father’s sons.
I was shepherd of my father’s sheep.
2 My hands made a musical instrument;
my fingers strung a lap harp.
3 Who will tell my Lord?
The Lord himself, the Lord hears me.
4 The Lord himself sent his messenger,
and took me away
from my father’s sheep.
He put special oil on my forehead
to anoint me.
5 My brothers were good-looking and tall,
but the Lord didn’t take
special pleasure in them.
6 I went out to meet the Philistine,
who cursed me by his idols.
7 But I took his own sword out of its sheath
and cut off his head.
So I removed the shame
from the Israelites.
I can’t believe the similarities between Hebrew and Arabic .
Maryah Don't be stupid Arabs and Jews are from same source!
what are you saying ? Arabs and Jews are cousin they share the same father so it's not weird that they have smeller tongue.
Arabic is not copied from Hebrew. Do a little google-search before commenting.
Maryah : All Semitic languages come from the Canaanite language .
Seeker Ofknowledge Alot of Aramaic in Talmud and half of Daniel.
Notice Tovia Singer’s Intellectual Dishonesty
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In Psalm 145, both the *Dead Sea Scrolls* and the *Septuagint* (the two oldest versions of the Hebrew Bible) *have an extra line* that is missing from the 10th century Masoretic text. Therefore, from the point of view of textual criticism, this line was originally present and was not interpolated or inserted in the text by a later scribe, as Tovia Singer erroneously suggests. It is present in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Septuagint records it as line 13a (in-between lines 13 & 14):
13 ἡ βασιλεία σου βασιλεία πάντων τῶν αἰώνων,
καὶ ἡ δεσποτεία σου ἐν πάσῃ γενεᾷ καὶ γενεᾷ.
*13a πιστὸς κύριος ἐν τοῖς λόγοις αὐτοῦ
καὶ ὅσιος ἐν πᾶσι τοῖς ἔργοις αὐτοῦ.
14 ὑποστηρίζει κύριος πάντας τοὺς καταπίπτοντας
καὶ ἀνορθοῖ πάντας τοὺς κατερραγμένους.
(It is recorded as “Ps 144” in the LXX).
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I can't prove the bible hasn't been corrupted
I'd like to know more about the age differences in children of Shem, Ham, and Japeth, people use to say Masoretic Text and its chronology are corrupted.
Its spoken about in this video
This is the only video I know that mentions it
@@convert2islaam500 Oh okay, I'll have to watch the whole thing.
@@jeremybenson5782 yeah sorry bro
The Genesis 5 and 11 Genealogy and Chronology Research Project began several years ago to critically investigate the genealogies of Genesis 5:3-32 and 11:10-32, which are integral to the primeval history of Genesis 1-11. What the Project found, Henry B. Smith reports in a superb article that has several very detailed charts named: MT, SP, or LXX? Deciphering a Chronological and Textual Conundrum in Genesis 5 (it’s online and I recommend reading it so as to have proof of that the Samaritan rabbis worked with the Jewish rabbis in altering their texts to match, namely here to make the sum totals of years in the chronologies match. )
the septuagint has the line of the nun as the dead sea scrolls. the masoretic text is a much later recension than either the lxx or the dss
I discuss this passage here ua-cam.com/video/fakaXWADdbM/v-deo.html
Curiously though the Septuagint does contain this line, or at least a version of it. The wording is not exactly the same but it is the same idea. Maybe that was the tradition the Qumranites were working from? But it is missing in the translation that Jerome did directly from Hebrew into Latin at the end of the 4th century.
Did not KRISTOS or Christ speak ARAMAIC to Aramaic Speaking Jews and GREEK to GREEK speaking Jews and the Apostles Greek and Aramaic to, says a lot to me
@@Kikap6001 Not sure what you're getting at.
@@erics7992 Jesus did not quote the septuagint. We have no idea what he actually did or said in his "debates" with the pharisees. In fact, we dont even have reason to believe they happened. Most of what the early gospels are doing in those scenes are portraying the various views they felt were contradictory and using the character of jesus as a mouthpiece for their hellenistic jewish pagain mish mash religion. For example, jesus trying to justify his followers blatantly breaking Gods law by picking grain on the sabbath by quoting the story of David and the showbread. This is plainly the stupidest citation of scripture i have ever seen in my entire life, there is no way the historical jesus ever said this. A 6 year old would be able to explain why that justification does not fly.
@@MrMaxSkorpion Why would a Palestian Jew of the first century debating with other Palestian Jews of the first century quote a Greek text?
@@erics7992 That is exactly my point, the texts were not in circulation amongst pharasees, their students, or anyone else actually practicing judaism. They used the received text from Ezra and the men of the great assembly, who were prophets, who produced what is the basis for the masoretic text, the literal words uttered from God to moses.
So, who used the lxx/greek writings? Saducees, essenes, samaritans, and other heretics. If jesus was a rabbi/pharisee, which many claim he was, then he simply would not have used any greek text in theological debate, especially not for the prophetic writings and other non-pentatuch books. We know that rabbinical law forbids translation of the prophets and writings into greek or any other language (tagums in aramaic are not translations, per se, so they dont count). This is corroborated by the fact that the original septuagint only contained the 5 books of Moses, and nothing else.
What probably happened is that the anonymous authors of the gospels heard some stories about jesus and began to write about him. Of course, most of the events in the nt are hearsay, and did not happen, but even so, they were not writing literal histories. The gospel writers were writing 1/2 myths about their rabbi. Seeing as they were either fully hellenized jews or gentiles, they could not read hebrew, and had to use the bible which was available to them, which were the poor greek translations of the actual word of God.
"God doesn't want us to fall." No nun line in 145 in real Torah. But in variant/alternatives...someone puts a nun in. So...the Jews always bounce back. The variants/alternatives? Well...if they've tried to ADD to Torah/Tanahk...the alternatives/variants fall. Makes sense.
What's the song at the end?
Adon Olam. Send me a request at toviasinger1@aol.com and I'll send it to you.
And why not be the opposite. And that someone deleted the line because he believed that the( noun) should not exist. Then repeating words in a text like psalms is normal.
سلام
What happened to the law of evidence?
Thanks Rabbi. I just read your explanation in Surah 34:20;13 :)
As in Al Quran?
And Iblees had already confirmed through them his assumption, so they followed him, except for a party of believers.
Boko Tov Rav Singer.
Do you believe in Repentance Tzsavah.
Repent.
Why , do I say this .
Because in the the Cepher of Gad the Seer.
Has Psalms ch 144 , 145.
In Ch 10. Of Gad the Seer.
Psalm 145 has the Nuun Verse.
Its your Later Anti Mashiach Ravs who removed this Verse .
In 400 ad in Ceasurear .
They also removed 4 important verses in Naahum.
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Repent and be Truthdul.
Zechariah ch 14.
Ahava.
Rav Emek.
Sarina Qld Australia.
This why you dont read The Septuagint, read the kjv and dead sea scrolls
Hmmm. Isn't it true that the masoretic is missing key dates that support Jesus's claim as Mashiach?
a4c01 Yeshua is indeed the messiah but he wasn’t born by a virgin, he’s not part of a trinity, and he was never crucified on a pagan cross of Tau. If you establish his word by 2 or 3 witnesses, line upon line, precept upon precept rightly dividing his word of truth (from lies) and you will find the treasure hidden in a field. You will also find the identity of the false Christ. The truth will set you free.
Read Romans 1:3-4 and Romans 1:21-26 very carefully!
K. Day jc penny didn’t gather exiles or build temple
debatable whether david actually wrote it
Pure speculations!
jews have the most speculations around their names
I really wonder why the writings of the Middle East starts from right to left. I knew that it's only God knows why?
Why does English start from left to right? What weirdos English speakers are
Aren't the Dead Sea caves genizahs? Doesn't that rule out the accuracy?
How do I send a question to the Rabbi?
It would be easy to record your question and send the recording to toviasinger1@aol.com
Yes.
audio or video is better
The reason for the "omission" of נ and it's verse given in the Talmud is ridiculous. Some rabbi asserted that the reason the letter and verse was left out is because the Hebrew word for ‘falls’ ( נפל ) starts with נ נ has the bad meaning, (just forget all that wisdom and truth), now it is associated with falling and as the psalm is one of praising God, it wasn't included. What garbage!
Convenient explanation, not true, but convenient.
His explation is correct
Shalom Aleikhem
What does it mean ?
peace to you @@adnanben784
First!
Second!
SOS , 2:36 mins : 3x666
MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE VALETITY OF THE SHROAD OF TURIN AND WHY IS IT IN THE POSSETION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH INSTEAD OF THE ISRAEL ANTIQUATIES POSSETION WHERE IT RIGHTFULLY BELONG'S?!!
It was stolen by the knights TEMPLAR aka Catholic church DURING the 4th crusade from Hagia Sophia Constantinople. It therefore belongs to the Byzantine aka Greek Orthodox cburch Google 4th crusade and find the truth ALL WILL STAND BEFORE THE LORD ON JUDGEMENT DAY
JUDAISM --- WHY IT IS GOD’S CHOSEN RELIGION
To correctly understand the battle royal that explodes between Judaism and Christianity, we must compare salvations: For in Judaism always is the thought that, a divine love affair with God would require both parties choose each other, the proof being that they are grateful for the shared affection. Not so for church goers, as half are filled with pride boasting that they chose salvation, while the other half has an inflated ego thinking they are among the chosen few.
Keeping in mind that Zionism is the ultimate conclusion of Christianity, and that the IDF has always been 100% funded by Christians who have since 1776, always loved their invading, colonizing and expansion crazy Empire USA.
Christians do not 100% fund the IDF. Israel has received military credits from the US since 1967. At that time, the USSR began rebuilding the Arab armies in preparation for another attack, which cam in 1973. Currently, US military credits to Israel run about $3.5 billion p/a. Most of these will goto funding F-35 purchases; at over $100 million per aircraft, that's not much. Also, a part of the credits goto fund joint R&D, Iron Dome being the most well known example.
Your comment about 1776 is mystifying.
Sorry Rabbi false conclusion... what will be your excuse when another book or 2 is found that has that same line... your theory gets trashed...
The Guy who was creative wasn’t wrong. Because God is to be trusted he is Nice and very Kind even to the UnGodly . God is Love . I Met the Almighty and felt his Love His Joy His peace . Even though I just saw his Blue eyes and part of his forehead and Hair . If i was allowed to see just his entire Face I would have turned to dust. Just seeing what I saw put me into such Extacy I thought I would die just from that. That’s why I don’t understand when he ordered to Destroy people children and even the Live Stock in Samuel. Then he punished King Saul for being Merciful.. Then you Guys reject Jesus or YaHshua for doing God’s work and showing Gods Glory here on Earth. Doesn’t make sense to me that you Jews don’t even Give Jesus an Ounce of Credit. You guys gave the other prophets of God Credit but when they said stuff you Jews didn’t Like you killed them. Truth hurts .