F-16 VS FIRST JET FIGHTERS - How Many Does It Take? - WAR THUNDER

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  • Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video MODERN JET FIGHTER (F-16) VS FORST JET FIGHTER (ME 262)!!! Stay tuned!
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  • @FryedFish
    @FryedFish Рік тому +746

    Pretty interesting to see that once their missiles ran out, so did their skill

    • @dewayto234xd9
      @dewayto234xd9 Рік тому +9

      Lol

    • @Donut833
      @Donut833 Рік тому +119

      I won’t say that they had no skill, but at the same time the F16 has a radar gun sight man. It can be iffy with a slippery opponent but I find it to be accurate enough. Kinda disappointing.

    • @neopolitan4121
      @neopolitan4121 Рік тому +14

      SO TRUE

    • @matthewshadle7131
      @matthewshadle7131 Рік тому +7

      I know how to evade missiles with an me262. It’s tricky but possible

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Рік тому +47

      I actually got a few kills with my gun. The problem is that the F-16 only has like 600 rounds, so the cannon runs out faster than the missiles.

  • @Zero_2558
    @Zero_2558 Рік тому +247

    Funny enough the first F16 that got taken out was by a kikka which had much worse firepower then a Me262 let alone F16, max respect for that Japanese pilot

    • @Dave-_-
      @Dave-_- Рік тому +16

      in an original 262 it'd be still harder to hit because kikka's type 5 cannons HEF-T round goes 920m/s when any round from MK 108 goes only 500m/s. That's why japanese 30mm's are slower and don't have minengeschoß but are actually better

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Рік тому +1

      @@Dave-_- that’s why I’d imagine we’d see a huge difference vs f80 or f84

    • @FRFFW
      @FRFFW 8 місяців тому

      Japanese air target did a better job than the german one

  • @theforzagamer3880
    @theforzagamer3880 Рік тому +150

    The P80 Shooting Star and Gloster Meteor would’ve been nice to see in this

    • @KMZX_700
      @KMZX_700 Рік тому +1

      mmhmm

    • @adriencoudert1083
      @adriencoudert1083 Рік тому +1

      And P-59s

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Рік тому

      I think if the first match was p80s they would’ve won. Looked like the low velocity of the German guns let them down quite a bit

    • @sabrinaboisvert1141
      @sabrinaboisvert1141 Рік тому

      @@ivanfromtheeast4709 they have Mk 103's which is higher velocity than 50cal, same with Mg 151 basically

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Рік тому +2

      @@sabrinaboisvert1141 the mk108 fires with a muzzle velocity of 1,770 fps while the m2 fires at 2,910 fps so not only is the muzzle velocity faster it also has less drag

  • @Walking654
    @Walking654 Рік тому +59

    Bro the F-16 pilot in the gold plane literally just lowered and let his gear fly off on multiple occasions during landing and takeoff 💀

    • @Tanknuggets217
      @Tanknuggets217 Рік тому +20

      That dude just spammed missles. Terrible player

    • @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin
      @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Tanknuggets217you don't even probably have tier 5 aircraft unlocked💀

    • @bipbap5079
      @bipbap5079 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Tanknuggets217Itd be the best strategy here, its not bad skill, its just not being dumb

  • @slavicgondola1817
    @slavicgondola1817 Рік тому +20

    10:59 of course it’s a cracked out kika player that made that hell of a shot. Great video 🤙🏻

  • @danielszmit2073
    @danielszmit2073 Рік тому +261

    the first F16 player just spammed missiles, his aim with the cannon was honestly pretty terrible, not a particularly interesting battle to watch

    • @brentonwinslow9490
      @brentonwinslow9490 Рік тому

      Both rounds had shit aim

    • @bolognaguy3100
      @bolognaguy3100 Рік тому +2

      ok 👌

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Рік тому +43

      That's kind of the point. The F-16 isn't just faster and more agile than a Me 262, it also has much better weapons. And yes, I did get kills with the gun. The F-16 only has like 600 rounds of 20mil, so it runs out quickly.
      And if you're questioning my skill, I will gladly 1v1 you F-16 vs. F-16.

    • @Westwoodshadowgaming
      @Westwoodshadowgaming Рік тому +13

      @@MberEnder You're like "fight me if you doubt my skill" i love it!

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Westwoodshadowgaming imagine if he just loses tho

  • @Nativeat1YT
    @Nativeat1YT Рік тому +51

    Aim 9L and Aim7M was essentially bullying the poor 262s lol, Great Video.

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Рік тому +7

      Thanks Native!

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Рік тому +1

      The 7ms couldn’t get enough signal to launch, I kept trying to launch the 7ms the entire time but the only time I got enough signal was in that head on

    • @Nativeat1YT
      @Nativeat1YT Рік тому

      @Ace_Maker Who need stealth when you have the ground lol

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Рік тому

      They werent even low lol, they just refused to get signal for launch, I think it might have been speed difference

  • @sandystockmon8561
    @sandystockmon8561 Рік тому +85

    fun fact, the head of the luftwaffe towards the end of the war actually used the 262 and mainly used it as an interceptor due to its exceptional speed compaired to bombers and the guns that were used on it, including the 50mm anti armor gun that could pritty much break a wing before you could say "bandits" if you had good aim.

    • @I_am_not_a_dog
      @I_am_not_a_dog Рік тому +10

      The 262 variant which carried the 50mm cannon (the Me 262 A-1a/U4) had 2 built. As far as I am aware, none were used operationally, and if they were, I highly doubt they ever would have hit anything.
      262 pilots lamented their closing speeds with enemy bombers, as it gave them such a small window to shoot that it led to far fewer kills than one might expect. Knowing this, I can’t even imagine how difficult it would have been for pilots to use the 50mm.
      Case-in-point:
      If it worked as well, some version of it would’ve seen use post-war. The closest we got to it was the single 37mm cannon on the MiG-9 and MiG-15, which was specifically intended for taking down US strategic bombers. It was so difficult to use that pilots whom were exceptionally skilled with it in-training were awarded a special title, “Sniper Pilot.”

    • @vasiliymedvedev1532
      @vasiliymedvedev1532 6 місяців тому

      ​@mfil92 sniper pilot class qualification was created in 1971 so it definitely had nothing to do mig 9

  • @duprontifyer3670
    @duprontifyer3670 Рік тому +45

    Hi I love your content as a war thunder player myself I love to see these fun videos it really makes my day

  • @LogI_Bear
    @LogI_Bear Рік тому +30

    Germany never suffers!

  • @tinymustacheman9631
    @tinymustacheman9631 Рік тому +3

    It's all shits and giggles until somebody giggles and shits

  • @skiwari2579
    @skiwari2579 Рік тому +5

    F16 try not to use missile challenge (impossible)

  • @jeager555
    @jeager555 Рік тому +14

    The Kikka is a Japanese varient of the Me 262, not the exact same but simular

  • @hansthesoldier8700
    @hansthesoldier8700 Рік тому +3

    10:57 yay im on screen :D

  • @mystlcgreatness
    @mystlcgreatness Рік тому +6

    The F-16s have some cool camouflages

  • @787sarecool
    @787sarecool 10 місяців тому +1

    6:25 That is some extreme luck to not crash. If it was me I would be like “My time has come” 😂

  • @sharinillias
    @sharinillias Рік тому +25

    Why no one using the Me-262 C2b?? Gives a little edge for the dogfights against modern jets. Would love to see a C2b engaging.

    • @darthnick1516
      @darthnick1516 Рік тому +1

      Yea well the boosters would help but only a little. Also i only saw the a1 and the squadron one , so i guess that's what they had to use.

  • @APerson-fj6yx
    @APerson-fj6yx Рік тому +4

    This reminded me of how I, a P-400, shot down 1 F-16, 3 MiG 29s, and 2 MiG 21s
    *this was in separate servers in 2 separate days*
    Guess that’s what happens when you play too much Microsoft flight sim

  • @Cyanfox3006
    @Cyanfox3006 9 місяців тому +1

    In first round there was literally no chance for 262s unless the pilot us stupid. You just shoot your missiles, go to space, rearm, repeat. Big respect to the Kikka pilot.

  • @adamklasa7270
    @adamklasa7270 Рік тому +7

    I like so much your content:) I would like to see, more of the historical recreations, maybe battle of Łuck, battle of Hannut or battle of Falaise? The war in Poland (1939) would be very cool, but we don,t have to much Polisch vehicles (like PZL-11, TKS, Karaś, Łoś, 7TP, Wz.34)

  • @Rezin8Gaming
    @Rezin8Gaming Рік тому +1

    Would love to see a Me-262 vs P-51 video

  • @KMZX_700
    @KMZX_700 Рік тому +2

    New title - F-16 vs. ME-262. _*yeah, the title is slightly ocd triggering_ but overall great vid.

  • @samc6231
    @samc6231 11 місяців тому +1

    A very ironic ending, considering that was how the allies used to take out me262's back in the day

  • @jessediego4096
    @jessediego4096 Рік тому +2

    Mig 29s vs Me 262s next time

  • @I_love_Invincible
    @I_love_Invincible Рік тому +1

    I ran into one of the Me 626 jet fighters while playing (it was fine art expert)

  • @aapopesonen2902
    @aapopesonen2902 Рік тому +3

    Video idea: Slowest plane vs the fastest. This would probably be PO-2 vs F-104.

    • @sanya1216
      @sanya1216 Рік тому

      Mig 29 is faster than f104

  • @fantalover420
    @fantalover420 7 місяців тому

    It went by like we were standing still!

  • @thefew.theproud.19Kilo
    @thefew.theproud.19Kilo Рік тому +3

    11:00 what a freakin shot.

  • @shoya3345
    @shoya3345 Рік тому

    damn i really like this type of content

  • @Thatguytigers
    @Thatguytigers Рік тому

    6:21
    My brain: hes dead
    My heart: hes dead
    My anxiety:💀
    The pilot's radio: Freeebirdd!!!

  • @IamVF301
    @IamVF301 10 місяців тому

    The F-16A (warthunder one) isn’t in service anymore as to my knowledge lol (still great video)

  • @05-1scpfoundation5
    @05-1scpfoundation5 Рік тому +1

    The golden F-16 pilot was handing out freedom 😂

  • @horndog252
    @horndog252 11 місяців тому

    I'm ngl, great video, I think I had a stroke listening to the first 10 seconds of the video

  • @tristenakintomide9091
    @tristenakintomide9091 Рік тому

    F-5 VS Mig-23 or F-4 VS Mig-21 would be an excellent video

  • @Noel100HUN
    @Noel100HUN Рік тому +2

    as we can see in the video no missile=no skill

  • @Add12pack
    @Add12pack Рік тому +8

    I wanna see the best turning non-biplane the German flying wing vs f-16's with guns only. It's the ho 229? Something like that can't remember. Edit I guessed it right!

    • @Lolzy3014
      @Lolzy3014 Рік тому

      I think its the me 267

    • @TinyBearTim
      @TinyBearTim 11 місяців тому

      @@Lolzy3014it’s 229

    • @Lolzy3014
      @Lolzy3014 11 місяців тому

      @@TinyBearTim ah, thanks

  • @pieterdeliho1492
    @pieterdeliho1492 10 місяців тому

    Would love to be in a F-16AJ if there's another battle like this

  • @Lexicon-ff6or
    @Lexicon-ff6or 10 місяців тому

    Time traveler: moves a chair
    The timeline:

  • @way9895
    @way9895 Рік тому +1

    How every uptier feels

  • @araara_seraph6335
    @araara_seraph6335 Рік тому +1

    This was fun to do even tho I died most the time xD

  • @Riftz-I
    @Riftz-I 11 місяців тому

    get new 262 pilots who actually have brains

  • @no-ct2ku
    @no-ct2ku Рік тому +1

    It's so easy to dogfight 4th gen jets in 1st or 2nd gen jets. You have a smaller turn radius because you are slower when at max speed.

    • @di5ea5eairsoft6
      @di5ea5eairsoft6 11 місяців тому +1

      Thats y top jets dont engage in dogfights

    • @cideltacommand7169
      @cideltacommand7169 11 місяців тому

      @@di5ea5eairsoft6 yeah lol, they just use their burst in a boom and zoom then escape the enemies range before they turn

  • @T-Gameing
    @T-Gameing Рік тому +1

    we need more plane vs plane videos

  • @ABPYAB
    @ABPYAB Рік тому +1

    Oye como consejo creo que sería buena idea que en una esquina pongas a tiempo real el restante de vehículos en cada equipo :V

  • @codenamecrusade1083
    @codenamecrusade1083 Рік тому +1

    Sad the Meteor didn't get to fight there

  • @madmonsterbbb9131
    @madmonsterbbb9131 Рік тому

    6:24 its like mere millimeters from crashing

  • @XDthedevilsrejectsXD
    @XDthedevilsrejectsXD Рік тому

    Wow talk about a hopeless fight

  • @meepy2739
    @meepy2739 Рік тому

    I love how there's a kikka

  • @professionalretard9364
    @professionalretard9364 Рік тому +4

    It is the fastest aircraft weapon. 6k rpm is unmatched

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 Рік тому +6

    Honestly, while I find it cool to do these vs matches, the first round was obvious. The 262 can't climb. It's engines are atrociously bad (in RB) and with the enemy getting it's missiles back every few seconds, not a chance

    • @Tswa567
      @Tswa567 Рік тому

      Agreed, they basically just could and did sit at long range/high altitude and spam mach 4 missiles against a trans-sonic jet. Wouldn’t be different if it was bi planes or even Mig15s

  • @silentact1
    @silentact1 Рік тому +3

    Can you please do a B17 Flying Fortress formation vs ME 262’s? Or a Royal Navy clash vs the Kriegsmarine?

  • @AmarettoTheFurry
    @AmarettoTheFurry Місяць тому

    song during 3:40? Sounds really good. nvm, Shazam finally worked.

  • @bobbob646
    @bobbob646 Рік тому +4

    Seeing everything get shot by the missiles is just boring

  • @kriptic626
    @kriptic626 Рік тому +1

    Do Abrams against prop planes

  • @DucksSpys
    @DucksSpys Рік тому

    Hmm interesting to see that their missiles are their skill and life.

  • @dragonbladem6899
    @dragonbladem6899 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a swarm of 1st Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters

  • @akbk7160
    @akbk7160 Рік тому +1

    Anyone know when the dev server will be open again?

  • @kinmoto6096
    @kinmoto6096 Рік тому

    Day 11 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes

  • @starwarsgeek1565S1
    @starwarsgeek1565S1 5 місяців тому

    do MiGs vs later MiGs pls

  • @Looscannon94
    @Looscannon94 Рік тому

    Why would you bring in the ME262 with the 50mm cannon? Seems like the worst option for this.

  • @maxmachac9756
    @maxmachac9756 Рік тому +1

    Damn, a team full of pilots that cant aim

  • @novaadityamr1724
    @novaadityamr1724 Рік тому +1

    Just flashing in my head, will be prop plane or Me 262 dodge more missile if they had missile detection thing? Because what I watch is they mostly didn't know if they got locked.

  • @Xtariz
    @Xtariz 11 місяців тому

    Stupid question... is it possible to have true size battle historically correct battles in WarThunder player vs player...

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 Рік тому

    I mean... if you had Smigol, I think he's proven the answer is "1".

  • @f0xbrother
    @f0xbrother Рік тому

    i have an idea why not trying 10 hstvl vs 10 2s38 or 20vs20

  • @Master_Gabe_Gaming
    @Master_Gabe_Gaming Рік тому +1

    Hi muffin…

  • @dakotasimms7270
    @dakotasimms7270 11 місяців тому

    As much as I love the 262 the meteor is older

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 10 місяців тому

    "All they need to cripple the fighter"
    Yeah I would say an F-16 is probably gonna die from average 2-3 30mm hits.

  • @pedrim5969
    @pedrim5969 Рік тому

    1:57 Brazil Showation

  • @katze3659
    @katze3659 10 місяців тому

    "Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby"

  • @gt95br67
    @gt95br67 Рік тому +1

    I see a me 262 from Brazil

  • @lachlanrosser1284
    @lachlanrosser1284 Рік тому

    I managed to shoot down a f-14 tomcat in a french monoplane with 20mms it took a good hour or two but I managed to do it.

  • @aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603
    @aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603 4 місяці тому

    Need b29 vs all ww2 axis aircraft

  • @Fxne_wrxld
    @Fxne_wrxld Рік тому

    Funny that when their missiles ran out they have no skill

  • @rawchicken3463
    @rawchicken3463 Рік тому

    I think i said to do this one

  • @fearjxnxk6284
    @fearjxnxk6284 10 місяців тому

    against mig 15 would be interesting

  • @legendcharizard1476
    @legendcharizard1476 Рік тому +1

    The first part is just outright boring. Missile spam all the way, and 2nd round shows that pretty well after the two F-16s expended all their missiles.

  • @user-eu5yz4cz4r
    @user-eu5yz4cz4r 2 місяці тому

    How do you get the f-16 faster

  • @alecsanchez8939
    @alecsanchez8939 Рік тому

    P-59 vs MiG-29

  • @g3d2dgaming91
    @g3d2dgaming91 Рік тому

    T35 VS Chr2c

  • @haydeneaton5113
    @haydeneaton5113 Рік тому +2

    Minor skill issue with the F 16 pilots... kind of disappointing

    • @ghostly6175
      @ghostly6175 11 місяців тому

      Had the speed, climb rate, and weapon advantage and performed terribly. Could have just been because of the way it was edited but once they ran out of missiles they were terrible at dogfighting, just proves even some top tier players have as much skill as new players

  • @Onzaie
    @Onzaie Рік тому

    i was there i died at 6:08 as well as 9:11 (i was Onzaie 1)

  • @garrettobrien5197
    @garrettobrien5197 Рік тому

    That first round was less. What can the f16 do. And more of. What can the aim9L do

  • @TheOtherAviationGuy
    @TheOtherAviationGuy Рік тому

    Its how many missiles the F16 has and after that it’s done

  • @Monkeyseadew
    @Monkeyseadew Рік тому

    Me wondering why none of the 262's led the f16 at a long range.

  • @mexican-qe1jr
    @mexican-qe1jr Рік тому

    Bro put all the guns available on the ME 262 just to try win against the f16 💀

  • @gamingwithmoxy3770
    @gamingwithmoxy3770 Рік тому

    You shoud pick Mig 29

  • @dragongaming479
    @dragongaming479 Рік тому

    me 262 is not actuly there first jet fighter the he 178 was also queston do you say it me 262 (like the me that talks about your self) or m e 262

  • @mamarussellthepie3995
    @mamarussellthepie3995 Рік тому

    Was gonna say something dumb like "Dude where tf did you find these lousy Viper drivers? XD" but then I realized WT players are not always the best lmao xD

  • @Rajveer_Singh68
    @Rajveer_Singh68 Рік тому

    Bro Fired 69 missile from 1 F-16 it's not ACE Combat bro😂

  • @xgliderawmsx7066
    @xgliderawmsx7066 Рік тому

    Me 163 vs f22 raptor

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 Рік тому

      The F22 isn’t in the game

  • @AntonBayerle-or9eo
    @AntonBayerle-or9eo 11 місяців тому

    retty boring that the f16 got his missels rep bc that just seems unfair

  • @dev1stat0r37
    @dev1stat0r37 Рік тому

    The F-14 is more of a legend than the F-16

  • @-PHANT0M
    @-PHANT0M 11 місяців тому

    With my skill the prop planes would kill me in the f16 within 1-2 minutes lol 🥲

  • @Lithslav
    @Lithslav 8 місяців тому

    Wdym "first jets"? Those are Me-262's, the Me-262 is not the first jet.. I don't wanna be a nerd but like- the first jet was the Heinkel He-178.. And if you still haven't realised the mistake maybe you could actually make the same thing but with actual He-178's? I would appreciate it. Ik it's a lot to ask [if you haven't done it already, prolly not] since you probaly don't have a lot of time and videos take hours to make and days to edit, but I [and some other nerds] appreciate you for taking your time to re do it [if you do, and we all appreciate you already but we will even more] so yeah, have a good day (:

    • @no-om9fg
      @no-om9fg 7 місяців тому

      The He-178's never saw combat so the me-262 is the first "operational" fighter jet

    • @Lithslav
      @Lithslav 7 місяців тому

      @@no-om9fg you got a point. But still, the He-178 exists

  • @64freight
    @64freight Рік тому

    What game is this???

  • @jasonsolt9693
    @jasonsolt9693 11 місяців тому

    its not the plane the pilot

    • @cideltacommand7169
      @cideltacommand7169 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, defenetly.
      Being 3 times faster than the enemy who have slow 30 mm cannons and having infinite infarred missiles is skill

  • @Nakamax.
    @Nakamax. 7 місяців тому

    Why you sound like the war thunder narrator voice

  • @Linhwitch
    @Linhwitch Рік тому

    Mig 21 về f4

  • @user-gw8lr7oj7e
    @user-gw8lr7oj7e 5 місяців тому

    Бесконечные ракеты 😅😂.похоже на фильм топ ган где том круз все миги сбил 😅😂