Great video! There is also Lyngdorf's RoomPerfect which offers a global setting, multiple focus positions and different voicings to suit your tastes and needs in different situations. I have a Lyngdorf digital amp with RoomPerfect, and I'm very impressed with it. They also make multichannel audio processors for home cinema.
Really like MultEQ-X, especially with their calibrated ACM1-X. Verified their estimated “after” curve is pretty spot on according to my measurements with REW using a umik-1. Should be interesting to see how using MultEQ-X with their calibrated mic compares to Dirac in the new D&M AVRs. Maybe a future video?? LOL
Another trick with the post 2020 Denon's is that you can have different tunings for the same measurement by modifying Flat as well as Reference within a single Preset, so it's more like 2+2 profiles.
I'm also interested in how the new Dirac 'Active Room Treatment' or 'Spatial Room Treatment' (if I'm saying this correctly) will, as Dirac says, revolutionize room correction. I believe there will be a charge for an upgrade license for many that currently on have Dirac, so would like to see another video on it, when released. Thanks Theo!
thank you I like your videos a cinéphile or an audiophile music lover i will find the references or answer our questions in your videos it was by looking at your video on the pma 110 that i opted for the pma 600ne i went with my buget discovered this denon pma series they all do the job
I have a standard movie watching profile set up on my X3400 and then one for when I am sitting in my recliner that is off to the left of center. Since I have an older denon I have to use the editor app to switch the profiles - which is a bit annoying - but it does work.
That is the one big disappointment with these new AVRs --- they don't take advantage of voice commands using Alexa, Siri, etc. I have the Pioneer LX505 and have three different Dirac profiles stored and it's clumsy to change to different profiles --- should be easy as saying "Alexa, change to Dirac Slot 3" or something like that
@@TheFrugalAudiophile LOL I hope so but I doubt it --- it seems like most techno nerds who are interested in home theater love fiddling around with complicated remotes --- I think voice commands are so damn easy, but AVRs havent caught up yet
Hi Theo. Great video as always. I do wish you would have your own video channel as I find your opinions very valuable. Hope you can make a video as to how you did your tweaks on your Anthem receiver like room again etc as I too own an Anthem AVR.
Appreciate your comments John! Glad you're finding the videos informative. I'm waiting for my Anthem AVM 90 review sample to arrive and I'm hoping to do some additional videos with ARC Genesis once I get the review unit. Anthem automatically calculates room gain once you run a calibration. I currently have the AVM 60 and the newer models support additional features with ARC Genesis.
I have an Anthem MRX 740 and for the most part ARC is great. One thing I haven't been able to figure out is if there is a way to use only the rear speakers as a 2-channel L/R setup. All of the speaker profiles require the FL/FR speakers which is very unfortunate. I tried setting it up with 4 speakers enabled with the fronts lowered the max of -12db and then using All Channel Stereo mode. For some content this seems to work as good as you'd hope, but often it doesn't seem to work right at all, with the resulting level being much lower than it should be. Maybe the ACS mode is buggy or I did something wrong.
I’m not entirely sure your use case will work. ARC requires and assumes a minimum of 2 speakers with those two speakers being L&R. It seems to me that what you are trying to do is amp assign the speakers. Off the top of my head I think you’d need an amp or speaker switcher to accomplish what you are asking to accomplish this task. I presume the reason why you want to do this is because you have a seat in the back for specific purposes?
Is Audyssey, Anthem ARC, ARC Genesis the same? I have the Marantz Cinema 50 and the Martin Logan Impression 11A. Of course the Marantz has Audyssey and the 11As have Anthem Room Correction. I also purchased ARC Genesis after watching another video of you and Gene swearing its better. Now just trying to figure out who's on first... 🙂 Which application do I start with? Or will I need all of them? I'm going to assume the first calibration should be done from the receiver but do I use Audyssey (built in) or ARC Genesis? I also assume when measuring the 11As I should be using ARC Genesis? But I promise, they are all assumptions and I'm not really sure how to start...heck or finish for that matter. For instance, making adjustments to the measurements. Oh almost forgot...I have the MultEQ app too...I'm all over the place...but I have good intentions.
I have a pioneer avr with a room correction mic. I love this channel but this channel has never covered pioneer's MCACC. I have an 12 yr old pioneer 5.1 system i use mcacc but i feel that I've never used it right. I'm wondering if you have any tips?
Dear audiohollics, is it possible to download different roomcorrection profiles and import in your system. I know that there are different kind of rooms and speakers, but maybe there are some basic profiles?
and yes Yamaha does have ability to save two room correction patterns.Only problem with YPAO is I cant figure out how to try a sound setup without YPAO. No way to clear a pattern.
Bit disappointed here as it doesn't show and hardly mentions DIRAC available on NAD AVRs and the new Denon AVRs; a substantial part of the market, overlooked in this vid.
The concepts discussed are the same across the different solutions like Dirac, ARC, Trinnov, etc. The point of the video is to identify why someone might want to use different profiles, and the kind of profile types.
Bought Avm70, had immediate Rattle noise come out off the fan, realised bad engineering (look at an open unit) and bad quality control, I have more to say but I'll stop for now. Never Anthem again, unless it makes it up for me.
Room correction systems calibrate to a target curve set by their research. A “house curve” (as you’ll sometimes see in forums and elsewhere is a specific curve you want to calibrate to. For example you want a +6dB boost in the bass beginning at 200Hz and lower, which is not what your room correction system is delivering.
Here’s good overview. You can go to the roughly 10 minute mark. Elevating bass is likely one of the most common tweaks with house curves. ua-cam.com/video/kKWMufEaue8/v-deo.html
Good info on what the calibration softwares will do, however need to make a session of how to do these things.
The post about the winner is Fake. It is a scam.
Great video! There is also Lyngdorf's RoomPerfect which offers a global setting, multiple focus positions and different voicings to suit your tastes and needs in different situations. I have a Lyngdorf digital amp with RoomPerfect, and I'm very impressed with it. They also make multichannel audio processors for home cinema.
Room Perfect is an exceptional system. I’d love to get one of the pre-pros in for review.
Really like MultEQ-X, especially with their calibrated ACM1-X. Verified their estimated “after” curve is pretty spot on according to my measurements with REW using a umik-1. Should be interesting to see how using MultEQ-X with their calibrated mic compares to Dirac in the new D&M AVRs. Maybe a future video?? LOL
Another trick with the post 2020 Denon's is that you can have different tunings for the same measurement by modifying Flat as well as Reference within a single Preset, so it's more like 2+2 profiles.
Worth mentioning on the older D&M models w/out speaker presets, MultEQ-X let's you assign curves to use "Flat" and "Reference" modes as presets.
We would love an in depth how to video.
I'm also interested in how the new Dirac 'Active Room Treatment' or 'Spatial Room Treatment' (if I'm saying this correctly) will, as Dirac says, revolutionize room correction. I believe there will be a charge for an upgrade license for many that currently on have Dirac, so would like to see another video on it, when released. Thanks Theo!
Great idea. Thanks for the feedback
thank you I like your videos a cinéphile or an audiophile music lover i will find the references or answer our questions in your videos it was by looking at your video on the pma 110 that i opted for the pma 600ne i went with my buget discovered this denon pma series they all do the job
I have a standard movie watching profile set up on my X3400 and then one for when I am sitting in my recliner that is off to the left of center. Since I have an older denon I have to use the editor app to switch the profiles - which is a bit annoying - but it does work.
That is the one big disappointment with these new AVRs --- they don't take advantage of voice commands using Alexa, Siri, etc. I have the Pioneer LX505 and have three different Dirac profiles stored and it's clumsy to change to different profiles --- should be easy as saying "Alexa, change to Dirac Slot 3" or something like that
@@fredwerza3478 That would be cool! Maybe some one from Sound United is reading comments and saw your suggestion. :)
@@TheFrugalAudiophile LOL I hope so but I doubt it --- it seems like most techno nerds who are interested in home theater love fiddling around with complicated remotes --- I think voice commands are so damn easy, but AVRs havent caught up yet
@@fredwerza3478 And I prefer a GOOD remote! There are many that are over-complicated tho.
@@fredwerza3478 Hey, you need know, Audioholics is a pretty big channel and does have quite a bit of influence in the home theater and audio industry.
Anyone else force their families into the room to sit quietly while you calibrate to provide more accuracy?
All the time 😂
@@Chetan704😂
😅
Hi Theo. Great video as always. I do wish you would have your own video channel as I find your opinions very valuable. Hope you can make a video as to how you did your tweaks on your Anthem receiver like room again etc as I too own an Anthem AVR.
Appreciate your comments John! Glad you're finding the videos informative. I'm waiting for my Anthem AVM 90 review sample to arrive and I'm hoping to do some additional videos with ARC Genesis once I get the review unit. Anthem automatically calculates room gain once you run a calibration. I currently have the AVM 60 and the newer models support additional features with ARC Genesis.
@@TheoNicolakis Looking forward to that video
@@johnlim7720can’t wait to get the review unit. I’ll take a pic when it finally arrives and I’ll have Gene post so we can all celebrate.
@@TheoNicolakis Hope you can share what settings you decided to you like room gain, bass boost etc
I thought Gene's Mother in Law seat was the worst seat in the room not the best. Did I get that wrong? :)
😂😂 Very true. Very true.
I have an Anthem MRX 740 and for the most part ARC is great. One thing I haven't been able to figure out is if there is a way to use only the rear speakers as a 2-channel L/R setup. All of the speaker profiles require the FL/FR speakers which is very unfortunate. I tried setting it up with 4 speakers enabled with the fronts lowered the max of -12db and then using All Channel Stereo mode. For some content this seems to work as good as you'd hope, but often it doesn't seem to work right at all, with the resulting level being much lower than it should be. Maybe the ACS mode is buggy or I did something wrong.
I’m not entirely sure your use case will work. ARC requires and assumes a minimum of 2 speakers with those two speakers being L&R. It seems to me that what you are trying to do is amp assign the speakers. Off the top of my head I think you’d need an amp or speaker switcher to accomplish what you are asking to accomplish this task. I presume the reason why you want to do this is because you have a seat in the back for specific purposes?
Is Audyssey, Anthem ARC, ARC Genesis the same? I have the Marantz Cinema 50 and the Martin Logan Impression 11A. Of course the Marantz has Audyssey and the 11As have Anthem Room Correction. I also purchased ARC Genesis after watching another video of you and Gene swearing its better. Now just trying to figure out who's on first... 🙂
Which application do I start with? Or will I need all of them? I'm going to assume the first calibration should be done from the receiver but do I use Audyssey (built in) or ARC Genesis? I also assume when measuring the 11As I should be using ARC Genesis? But I promise, they are all assumptions and I'm not really sure how to start...heck or finish for that matter. For instance, making adjustments to the measurements. Oh almost forgot...I have the MultEQ app too...I'm all over the place...but I have good intentions.
I have a pioneer avr with a room correction mic. I love this channel but this channel has never covered pioneer's MCACC. I have an 12 yr old pioneer 5.1 system i use mcacc but i feel that I've never used it right. I'm wondering if you have any tips?
/Good informative video, but you didn't talk about one of the most powerful room correction. Dirac!
Yes, Dirac, Room Perfect and more. The concepts mentioned are applicable to all of the other solutions too.
Dear audiohollics, is it possible to download different roomcorrection profiles and import in your system. I know that there are different kind of rooms and speakers, but maybe there are some basic profiles?
and yes Yamaha does have ability to save two room correction patterns.Only problem with YPAO is I cant figure out how to try a sound setup without YPAO. No way to clear a pattern.
Use "throught" option or manual.
@@Audioholics So through option with parametric equalizer shuts off YPAO ?
@matt giunta yes. Manual let's you copy YPAO PEQ or make your own filters.
@@Audioholics thank you
Newer have 4 pattern options which is cool, my 2070 has 2.
Why read whats already on the screen.....?
Bit disappointed here as it doesn't show and hardly mentions DIRAC available on NAD AVRs and the new Denon AVRs; a substantial part of the market, overlooked in this vid.
The concepts discussed are the same across the different solutions like Dirac, ARC, Trinnov, etc. The point of the video is to identify why someone might want to use different profiles, and the kind of profile types.
What year will I be able to enjoy my audio system?
Bought Avm70, had immediate Rattle noise come out off the fan, realised bad engineering (look at an open unit) and bad quality control, I have more to say but I'll stop for now. Never Anthem again, unless it makes it up for me.
What is a house curve?
Room correction systems calibrate to a target curve set by their research. A “house curve” (as you’ll sometimes see in forums and elsewhere is a specific curve you want to calibrate to. For example you want a +6dB boost in the bass beginning at 200Hz and lower, which is not what your room correction system is delivering.
Here’s good overview. You can go to the roughly 10 minute mark. Elevating bass is likely one of the most common tweaks with house curves. ua-cam.com/video/kKWMufEaue8/v-deo.html
@@TheoNicolakis Thank you. I'll check it out.
Talk faster please.
You know you could just put the video at 1.5 speed and things will sound normal right?