After the success of his previous 3 symphonies, this was a retro attempt by Beethoven to revisit the classical style, and what a magficent composed piece it is too. However it was a flop, which depressed Beethoven as it was his favourite. It marked a turning point in his life to increasingly being one of of a recluse. It will be 12 years before he would compose another, the greatest symphony of all.
Klemátisz Szimonetta Rose this symphony seems to be classically inspired. Beethoven, the arch Romantic, going all throwback for the 8th. This is such a delightful symphony, but...it's CLASSICAL STYLE!
@@timothythorne9464 Op. 55 surely left a major impact on development of all music ever created - however, just take a look at use of instruments, harmonic structures, modulations and progressions which are principally typical for classical style. Yes, he occassionally experimented with all of mentioned above, but the experiments were moderate and limited to minor number of works including mostly some piano sonatas, piano trios and late string quartets, so it prevents his music from being classified as purely or even generally romantic... He is considered the first romantic composer because he irreversibly changed musical forms and greatly contributed to democratisation of music in the early 19th century.
What a masterful piece of music! Everything in this symphony sounds just perfect, every note in it's place! Such a cohesive piece of music. A true genius was Beethoven, a master of his art.
Anyone else thinks the end of the 1st movement of Symphonies 8 and 9 are quite similar? Beethoven closes the musical ideia with a fragment of the main theme, and I love that.
This symphony belongs to Karajan. This is one of the best recordings of this piece, my favourite rendition. Fast, but still heavy, intense like Beethoven should be played.
The whole symphony is permeated with humor, musical jokes and of course this is a Beethovenian look into the past, in the era of classiсal music, here you can hear the style of Haydn and Mozart, so beautifully presented in Beethoven's handwriting
Beethoven said he liked the 8th one than thr 7th. 8th symphony is underrated because the others(prime numbers)were the best... I like the 8th symphony because it is light and humorous like the classical era. The 4th movement is the most funniest story ever lol.
9 is not a prime number and it is perhaps the greatest symphony of them all. BTW 2 is a prime number and that is surely not better than the ninth, or 6th for that matte.r
I have heard that Beethoven liked the symphony, but it wasn’t good for his time, so people didn’t like it. He was sad and it took 13 years to create another symphony. And I am pretty sure he thought he didn’t do the best job on his 9th.
@@natcharmusic Beethoven was thinking about the ninth symphony since he was in Bonn, he was thinking about writing a symphony for the Shiller poem. He difinelty was more proud of the 9th than the 8th.
Le dernier mouvement me fait penser aux sensations qu on éprouve quand on fait du vélo dans un paysage vallonné et que même les montées sont euphorisantes ,
4:30 since 5:00 is harmonically based on the stretta in the minuetto from Mozart symphony 40... Even the high parts make that dramatic two notes repeated and modulated the same way than Mozart Maybe Beethoven didn't do it on purpose
@@timothythorne9464 The whole point is that there is no slow movement. Beethoven always used either a scherzo or a minuet, and here he decided to use both as a subversion of the symphonic form. Is it technically metronomically the slow movement? Yes, but nothing about the character reflects that, in case "Allegretto Scherzando" wasn't enough of a hint. Beethoven was probably the greatest experimenter with the symphonic form of both the 18th and 19th Centuries, one of his symphonies uses a full choir, two are as long as Mahler symphonies, and two play around with attaca marks to conjoin movements. The idea of an obligatory slow movement is arbitrary, and Beethoven broke practically every other rule when he thought they were arbitrary and he wanted to do something else.
L allegretto scherzando est utilisé comme accompagnement d une scène de violence dans le film de 1995 Kalifornia. Je n ai pas d opinion particulière , ça se fond harmonieusement dans le film , excellent selon moi.
The score format is good especially for us amateurs. Shows us what to listen for which we might not notice. On the second screen, I don’t hear any of the sixteenth note patterns in the strings. Conductor’s fault? Recording?
On fortissimo please turn down your volume to the lowest possible and if you have headphones, please take them off because fortissimo means extremely loud! You have been warned.
Yes, definitely. My favorite is the repeat of the 3rd symphony. If you haven't already, check out the Haitink recordings I have uploaded which have the repeats.
Les moments chantants dans le final sont comme une déchirure,un envol,un signe d au-delà....d une puissance de trouble pas assez relevee par la critique,je trouve(de même que le mauvais gout a hurler de la broderie de flûte dans le final de la 7 !! Beethoven se serait il amuse a une sorte d effet miroir ?)
The way we're conditioned to think of Beethoven's work is rather limiting and stupid. According to this narrative, Beethoven is a giant, a genius, a hero, a visionaire and only those works that reflect this image are worthy of being highly admired. That's why musicians speak of his 4th and 8th symphony as ,,light interludes,, between ,,greater,, works (3rd and 5th; 7th and 9th), 6th symphony is nice, but still not THE 5th, 7th is great, but still a bit suspicious, 1st and 2nd don't exist. The same thing goes with other genres.
La cuarta sinfonía es hermosa, la sexta sinfonía es incluso mejor que la quinta, si hablamos de fuerza, poder y tormenta, el cuarto movimiento de la sexta sinfonía es superior al primer movimiento de la quinta sinfonía.
Beethoven est vraiment énervant , avec ses suspenses qui ' en sont pas et ses retards bidon pour une modulation qu on voit venir de loin ! ( ici , fin du premier mouvement ) Mais que les snobs ne triomphent pas : c est dans les œuvres de la fin que c est le pire : andante con moto opus 130 , fin de la variation 4 opus 127 , allegro op 106....
As much as I like this symphony, the problem with it is that it doesn't have a proper slow movement. 3rd movement is still fast and light in terms of emotions. It's good, but one ingredient is clearly lacking.
00:00 Allegro vivace e con brio
08:52 Allegretto scherzando
12:38 Tempo di menuetto
17:52 Allegro vivace
Thanks you!
3:46 reminds me of the drum-like rhythm played by the left hand in the 2nd movement of the tempest sonata
The Allegro vivace finale is SENSATIONAL!
Thanks a lot 👍
15:00
After the success of his previous 3 symphonies, this was a retro attempt by Beethoven to revisit the classical style, and what a magficent composed piece it is too. However it was a flop, which depressed Beethoven as it was his favourite. It marked a turning point in his life to increasingly being one of of a recluse. It will be 12 years before he would compose another, the greatest symphony of all.
Facts yo
Sadly true. But it's such a pleasure to listen to this.
Last movement is definitely no retro attempt, its his most modern sound to that point!
The only Beethoven symphony I can listen to over and over and never get tired of it. A perfect piece of music.
what about symphonies 3, 5, 6, and 9?
@@theorymaster6310 and 7 😛
@@SonSantana Yes
The 8th symphony is my favorite by miles too -- it seems like the most fun one to me.
YES
8:25
The ending of the first movement is amazing.
first movement coda is amazing
My favorite Beethoven symphony
Good to hear that coming from you :)
Beethoven's favorite Beethoven symphony as well!
J- L. ABC that’s simply not true! His favorite was his Eroica as he stated himself
Nico Heizmann wrong that’s so very wrong
Borkboy Boy it‘s absolutely true! Do you have a source for your assertion? Because I have one
I played this on an concert yesterday and it was so brilliant. Love it so much!
Liking for comment and your username
@@Sam-gx2ti Hard disagree
@@aliciadalbey1201 who is disagree, and why are you hard for them???
@@Sam-gx2ti what? Dogs are much better than cats
Best Version of this symphony on UA-cam!!
When your symphony ends but also never ends for a full minute...
I love Beethoven's music :)
Klemátisz Szimonetta Rose this symphony seems to be classically inspired. Beethoven, the arch Romantic, going all throwback for the 8th. This is such a delightful symphony, but...it's CLASSICAL STYLE!
Schroeder agrees!
@@timothythorne9464 But a vast majority of Beethoven's works are still more classical than those of Weber, Schubert, Cherubini or even late Mozart.
@@hjo4104 Beethoven beginning with opus 55 is generally ROMANTIC.
@@timothythorne9464 Op. 55 surely left a major impact on development of all music ever created - however, just take a look at use of instruments, harmonic structures, modulations and progressions which are principally typical for classical style. Yes, he occassionally experimented with all of mentioned above, but the experiments were moderate and limited to minor number of works including mostly some piano sonatas, piano trios and late string quartets, so it prevents his music from being classified as purely or even generally romantic... He is considered the first romantic composer because he irreversibly changed musical forms and greatly contributed to democratisation of music in the early 19th century.
Thank you Jamison Sanchez. So clear and possible to read each instrument. Congratulations for the quality of the Score. Hugs from Brazil.
21:30 my favorite part. Everyone gets a chance with the stretto he even throws his 5th Symphony in there.
What a masterful piece of music! Everything in this symphony sounds just perfect, every note in it's place! Such a cohesive piece of music. A true genius was Beethoven, a master of his art.
Anyone else thinks the end of the 1st movement of Symphonies 8 and 9 are quite similar? Beethoven closes the musical ideia with a fragment of the main theme, and I love that.
It's small Symphony. But, Perfect.
This work also shows Beethoven's sense of humor. It is one of his best symphonies.
Leonard Stevens the composer said it's his best symphony. Why doubt that?
Beethoven worked hard on his every work.
What a moment 18:06! Hurray for Beethoven and Karajan!!!
This symphony belongs to Karajan. This is one of the best recordings of this piece, my favourite rendition. Fast, but still heavy, intense like Beethoven should be played.
The whole symphony is permeated with humor, musical jokes and of course this is a Beethovenian look into the past, in the era of classiсal music, here you can hear the style of Haydn and Mozart, so beautifully presented in Beethoven's handwriting
thank You, Jamison, for posting these beautiful pieces.
The little Pastoral...a very beautiful gem!❤
It has a lot of pastoral motives. But the 8th rather afterwar one
Second flute is having the time of their life in movement 2
bro, this scherzando is so cool!
Beethoven said he liked the 8th one than thr 7th. 8th symphony is underrated because the others(prime numbers)were the best...
I like the 8th symphony because it is light and humorous like the classical era. The 4th movement is the most funniest story ever lol.
9 is not a prime number and it is perhaps the greatest symphony of them all. BTW 2 is a prime number and that is surely not better than the ninth, or 6th for that matte.r
I have heard that Beethoven liked the symphony, but it wasn’t good for his time, so people didn’t like it. He was sad and it took 13 years to create another symphony. And I am pretty sure he thought he didn’t do the best job on his 9th.
@@natcharmusic Beethoven was thinking about the ninth symphony since he was in Bonn, he was thinking about writing a symphony for the Shiller poem. He difinelty was more proud of the 9th than the 8th.
Les caressantes .basses des intermèdes chantants du finale me font penser à une reprise du deuxième thème de l allegro de la symphonie 1
4th movement is so crazy!
9:54 when Vivaldi's spirit suddenly possesses you
Hahahahaha! I can't listen to it without thinking that now!🤣
Nice :D
Very underrated comment
Happy and rollicking from beginning to end! Love it!
Le dernier mouvement me fait penser aux sensations qu on éprouve quand on fait du vélo dans un paysage vallonné et que même les montées sont euphorisantes ,
15:08
IV.
19:22
21:50
4:30-5:30 gives me always chills
4:30 since 5:00 is harmonically based on the stretta in the minuetto from Mozart symphony 40... Even the high parts make that dramatic two notes repeated and modulated the same way than Mozart
Maybe Beethoven didn't do it on purpose
Ludvig Van Beethoven you're the greatest, and happy 250th!
Timothy Thorne its not December yet
Old but gold.
The second movement is really similar to his Canon for Maelzel
Mark Sullivan the 2nd movement is the "slow" movement!
@@timothythorne9464 The whole point is that there is no slow movement. Beethoven always used either a scherzo or a minuet, and here he decided to use both as a subversion of the symphonic form. Is it technically metronomically the slow movement? Yes, but nothing about the character reflects that, in case "Allegretto Scherzando" wasn't enough of a hint. Beethoven was probably the greatest experimenter with the symphonic form of both the 18th and 19th Centuries, one of his symphonies uses a full choir, two are as long as Mahler symphonies, and two play around with attaca marks to conjoin movements. The idea of an obligatory slow movement is arbitrary, and Beethoven broke practically every other rule when he thought they were arbitrary and he wanted to do something else.
Fuck the rules making a great symphony is amazing
22:01 Beethoven's 5th!!!
the last movement is so delightful!
Love this work
That's good. That's freaking good.
L allegretto scherzando est utilisé comme accompagnement d une scène de violence dans le film de 1995 Kalifornia.
Je n ai pas d opinion particulière , ça se fond harmonieusement dans le film , excellent selon moi.
Wonderful!
23:45 -24:..., definitely a passage Dvořák used in his New World Symphony.
I wish there was a silence between movements. In any case, thank you!
Beethoven certainly thumped the tub!
omg.. so awesome!
The score format is good especially for us amateurs. Shows us what to listen for which we might not notice. On the second screen, I don’t hear any of the sixteenth note patterns in the strings. Conductor’s fault? Recording?
Ears, I would think in my case.
Does the 2nd mvt strike anyone as if he'd been listening to Rossini and vice versa?
thankyou so much. Very excactly
I like his every music
Even thé missa solemnis ?
On fortissimo please turn down your volume to the lowest possible and if you have headphones, please take them off because fortissimo means extremely loud! You have been warned.
The beginning in beautiful
00:00, 00:40, 01:15, 03:45, 05:30, 07:25, 08:52, 11:07, 12:38, 15:08, 17:52, 18:29, 21:30
Oh man they do not do the repeat in the first section of the first movement....Too bad, one of the greatest feelings of 'return' in classical music!
Yes, definitely. My favorite is the repeat of the 3rd symphony. If you haven't already, check out the Haitink recordings I have uploaded which have the repeats.
I think Herbert von Karajan only put two quarters into the parking meter and was trying to get through the performance as quickly as possible.
Les moments chantants dans le final sont comme une déchirure,un envol,un signe d au-delà....d une puissance de trouble pas assez relevee par la critique,je trouve(de même que le mauvais gout a hurler de la broderie de flûte dans le final de la 7 !!
Beethoven se serait il amuse a une sorte d effet miroir ?)
I know it’s Beethoven but I’m getting some Schubert vibes
15:08 for horn excerpt :)
Ta ta ta ta ta ta ta tata ta tata ta tata taaaaaa
The way we're conditioned to think of Beethoven's work is rather limiting and stupid. According to this narrative, Beethoven is a giant, a genius, a hero, a visionaire and only those works that reflect this image are worthy of being highly admired. That's why musicians speak of his 4th and 8th symphony as ,,light interludes,, between ,,greater,, works (3rd and 5th; 7th and 9th), 6th symphony is nice, but still not THE 5th, 7th is great, but still a bit suspicious, 1st and 2nd don't exist. The same thing goes with other genres.
I think the odd number symphonies are more experimental, making them distinctive and his style.
La cuarta sinfonía es hermosa, la sexta sinfonía es incluso mejor que la quinta, si hablamos de fuerza, poder y tormenta, el cuarto movimiento de la sexta sinfonía es superior al primer movimiento de la quinta sinfonía.
1st and 2nd don't exist?????? Are you mad?
Also The 6th is arguably better than The 5th.
It's chopin's "music" that doesn't exist. Beethoven's 1 and 2 Symphonies are amazing.
I don't mean to brag, but i just got a slap chop ad
Is this the 1977 recording?
Yes it is.
@@jamisonsanchez9372 Awesome, thanks!
Karajan, my wayward son...
15:11 cello audition
Ridiculous EARLY ENTRANCE at :36. Boo hiss.
15:15
18:38
I heard when he wrote his 8th symphony, he was making fun of this musical genre🤔 can anyone chime in on this claim??
Very high A
7:09
4:25
12:38
Billionaire music 👌🎵
15:09 cello
15:14
Beethoven est vraiment énervant , avec ses suspenses qui ' en sont pas et ses retards bidon pour une modulation qu on voit venir de loin ! ( ici , fin du premier mouvement )
Mais que les snobs ne triomphent pas : c est dans les œuvres de la fin que c est le pire : andante con moto opus 130 , fin de la variation 4 opus 127 , allegro op 106....
what a mistake 17:54 in timpani
What mistake?
@@jamisonsanchez9372 look at the left
@@noahselim4533 That bar is actually showing the tuning for the timpani, and not notes to be played.
13:13 to 13:30 lots of Mahler vibes
Mahler???
Yeah@@hjo4104
15:08 솔로시작
22:38
Hermous
1:17
15:08 Clari solo
23:20 timpani
Last movement is played too fast.
10:54
This is sure a video u should watch on an iPad
12:38 When you're all out of motivic ideas
LvB the emperor of simplicity
@@hjo4104 Please listen to this and then reconsider your statement. ua-cam.com/video/XAgdd2VqLVc/v-deo.html
@@hjo4104 ???????????? Complete nonsense.
@@hjo4104 Beethoven is the Emperor of complexity. You have no idea how complex His Music is (especially compared to chopin's "music").
@@ultimateconstruction 'simple' is a polarity of 'complicated', not 'complex' !! 😄
Ahoj
As much as I like this symphony, the problem with it is that it doesn't have a proper slow movement. 3rd movement is still fast and light in terms of emotions. It's good, but one ingredient is clearly lacking.
The symphony was interrupted many times by ads! Sorry for the dislike 😒
Seid.
I like more Rotterdam Sym orch with Beethoven 8
Too high.
Not good for my ears
This is pushed up by technicians.
Is he rushing to catch a bus.
peti stav
I heard this song was about farts so I came.
This comment right here, officer
19:30 circle of fifths begins and he makes fun of it.
My favorite Beethoven symphony.
7:00
15:10
10:52
6:12
15:07
15:08
15:32
4:54
23:39