*me wearing headphones* "What are you listening to?" "Beethoven" "Nice. Could you send it to me? I need some new classical music to help me sleep" "Uh, sure. Sweet dreams.."
After Bach’s Art of Fugue you’d think that no one could ever add anything new and meaningful to fugue literature, and then along comes Beethoven and absolutely knocks it out of the park with the Missa Solemnis and the late piano sonatas and string quartets. But this goes beyond all of that. It is titanic, weird, determinedly ahead of its time, and utterly fascinating. Bach was cataloguing his art with the utmost competence and completeness of form; Beethoven is like a bull in a china shop with his radical innovations and unbridled imagination.
You are wrong, Anton Reicha did it, Reicha created "symmetrical" fugues; one of the subjects of fugue no. 18 consists of a single repeated note. The maximum interval exceeds the ninth: fugue no. 7 extends over more than two octaves, there is polyrhythm... : ua-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/v-deo.html
Bach would not have liked this fugue, he would have found it too barbaric! Anton Reicha developed the fugue after Bach with new processes : ua-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/v-deo.html
I find it amazing because this type of broken harmony and dissonant notes bloomed in the early 1900 with the musical expressionism with Schönberg and Weber. This piece by Beethoven is way ahead of its time.
@@davidbrant390 but schoenberg and webern sound like shit. i know the academic elements of their works, but i still think they sound shitty. every now and then people point out how mozart's string quartet in c 'dissonance' and beethoven late quartets foreshadowed serialism, destruction of tonal hierarchy. further into the romantic line, we have wagner's tristan und isolde, but are these really 'advancement' or 'innovation' in music? i think music got progressively got worse because contemporary composers wrote noise instead of music. is music really going in the right direction? i doubt it
Yet the seemingly enigmatic opening is a bog-standard I-N6-IV-V-I progression, identical to a passage near the opening of the 1st symphony, which I'm sure was a deliberate allusion (or Easter egg, if you like).
@@gspaulsson It certainly doesn't sound bog standard however. That and the various other shrieks and howls and dissonances found throughout the faster sections give it a contemporary feel, even with a terribly dull performance as presented here.
Who are you again? Oh, right, that Caulfield guy that knocked on my apartment door who I couldn’t hear very well. Could you speak a bit louder, please?
I learned how to write fugues in high school, eventually writing a (mediocre) double fugue, after putting like 5 years of study into it. I'm by no means an "expert" at ALL, but I can follow and understand Bach's fugues pretty well. I got lost in the 14th measure.
@@Whatismusic123 To everyone reading this, the person I'm replying to is just a troll who replies to all the comments they see with the first negative thing they come up with. Ignore them.
i don’t care but this is one of the best fugues since bach, this fugue is so well structured and overall the emotion of this fugue is so amazing that lets you the melody be stuck in your head for the rest of the day. beethoven you’re a genius among genius.
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Hi Bud, I think one day I did something that sounds familiar by it’s character to the Grosse Fugue. Although it’s not a fugue, but similar in style of musical character for notes overriding on top of eachother violently in nature. Just so that we’re friends and you probably do find the Grosse Fugue to be one of the single best music ever written. I’d actually do want to hear your response on one of my videos, maybe you watched it before. But it’s the one I named Beethoven’s Berserker Rage. It’s always amazing to realize people’s thoughts about it whether or not they hear a similarity in character between that & the Grosse Fugue. I’ll really appreciate this so much!! Thanks..
@@louiscorbett3278 If Beethoven is crap than why is he the most well known artist of all time until this very day? I doubt Tupac will ever make it this far or any other contemporary day artists. 2 well known centuries & people still play his music, 2 well known centuries & he’s still being known all over the world. You tell a random stranger walking on the street of the name Beethoven & they’ll respond by saying “oh, you mean the musician? Yes yes I’ve heard about him”. And yet you come here all knowing & obviously heard of Beethoven & think like your opinion actually matters by simply saying it’s crap. I’d really agree with you if Beethoven wasn’t as known nationally worldwide as he is now. Maybe not as much as any other composer in existence, except for the name Beethoven. So little do you & your opinions matter for history to ever remember much minions like you who do nothing BUT preferably hate, cause that’s all of what is left of them for certain reasons. I don’t know what your reason might be for hating such a well known composer, but if I may guess it’s that you like to distinguish yourself by finally being that one guy who thinks they can have a say & most certainly judge the music of Beethoven in a given way, since well I don’t know, you think you belong in the place of God to point fingers on such a given perfect composer. Makes you feel better about yourself doesn’t it? Of course it does, if you think you’re more than Beethoven than hopefully you’ll get what you want one day & have a group of opposing jackals who are able to convince the rest of humanity that Beethoven was actually a piece of shit & we’re actually better, well no take that back, “I AM”, so much more better than he can ever be! This is where people like you come from, because of these selfish human desires, it’s what has become left of the world in regards to art. Art can never be the same again, since it’s been far ruined throughout time, all that remains today are only the ones who existed in the past & are being remembered till now & belong in a exclusive fan base of persons who carry the real appreciation of it. But compared to all other artists of history, Beethoven is the most significant one of them all. You’re welcome for giving you this basic educational information about art & classical music. Since you clearly don’t even know any better.
This and the fugal finale of his Hammerklavier sonata are probably the most difficult pieces of his to appreciate on first hearing. But repeated hearings for many will reap great rewards.
yes the first time I heard it it was "too heavy" for me, but now I understand it so well that became one of my favorite pieces of all times, one of the highest quality compositions ever
Beethoven, as all great masters, dared to ignore the audience's expectations. It is us who have to rise to the difficulties of the work and not the artist who has to bend over to our sense of beauty.
That is why the purists who love the classical era, especially those who believe that European academic music reached its absolute peak in the second half of the 18th century, blame Beethoven, alone or above anyone else, for putting music as a whole on an inexorable course of decadence and self-destruction that, in their opinion, has not ceased to worsen after him. And they blame him for everything that they dislike about all subsequent composers to this day (atonality, the twelve-tone system, the arbitrariness in the beat, vulgarization, the "cult of ugliness", the blurring of musical genres and rules to the greater glory of narcissistic extravagance or emotionality, etc.).
Not hard for pros, which these folks obviously are. Perhaps it was hard in Beethoven's day, but today any reasonably professional quartet won't have any problem with it.
@@zenner41 It's still a very difficult piece, particularly the polyrhythms that can easily throw players off (those offbeat tied eighth notes against the triplets are an absolute beast to play correctly).
@@TurquoiseStar17 Incorrect. Beethoven's final major finished work was String Quartet No. 16 in F major, Op. 135, completed in Oct 1826, Beethoven died in March 1827, after months bedridden with illness.
Every time I return to listen to this piece the world seemingly stands still…. Thank you to the worlds most tortured genius. Long may he live in our ears and our hearts.
You can almost hear the frustration in the composition. The feeling of isolation he must have been dealing with slowly losing the ability to not only hear his own work but the audible connection to life itself. Eerie. Great interpretation by the musicians IMO
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven completely lost his hearing while composing the Hammerklavier sonata (1817-1818), no longer being able to hear anything else, he installed a metallic horn on his piano that when he was going to compose it bit the horn so that he could feel the vibrations in his skull
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven's friends and editors, because they thought Beethoven was completely deaf he was no longer understanding music or composition, but Beethoven was composing songs 100 years ahead of his time (this fugue is one of them in his late period)
with Beethoven it's always a problem to chose the best composition because they are all masterpieces, almost all of them, I think 9ths is the greatest masterpiece from Beethoven.
Amadeus Beethoven said his 8th Symphony was his best work. That's curious considering it's an untroubled, classical piece that's worlds away from this, or any of the late quartets, or the 9th symphony.
I’ve heard people don’t enjoy this for how it sounds but what it presents intellectually and whatnot, or they just don’t like it at all. Am I the only one who enjoys this? It’s packed full of pure emotion!
It has a strange allure. I hear a genius that's deeply frustrated with the limits of the formalism and conventions of his art. It's authentic Music that's 200 years too early to be appreciated, and maybe it'll take another 100. I'm a layman, but I've heard everything from Beethoven and in my opinion this is his most remarkable piece because it's so different to everything else he wrote. This music won't come to you, you have to go its place. It's reported that some people thought the old master was now completely deaf and mad after listening to this piece and it was controversial even before being published.
00:05 : Introduction (Overtura) 00:56 : Première fugue allegro (premier mouvement rapide) 04:38 : Deuxième fugue meno mosso et moderato (mouvement lent) 07:25 : Troisième fugue allegro molto e con brio (scherzo) 11:57 : Coda 12:26 : troisième fugue 14:10 : retour des différents éléments thématiques (cyclique)
I love Beethoven's music so much, he's my favorite, but this I heard for the first time now. It's weird and great and emotional and everything at the same time, wow!
Well such a group of comments from despair to love. The work was beautiful. Intellectually deep. Consistent and vibrant. I heard conversations and the complex expressions between duelling Entities. It’s like a struggles which occupies your mind. One trying to resolve conflict and maintain some harmony however, your vexed and sometimes overtaken by anger and retaliatory thoughts. When in the deep, your anchor is sanity and you sift through the turmoil to untangle and resolve towards Harmony if possible. In this work the harmony is an intense discourse which is balanced and beautiful. The fugue is an intellectual dance. I can just imagine some masterful dancers expressing themselves through this music, a story to be told. I remember the fantastical tango dancing I had seen in Argentina. Performed by strong athletic and graceful masters of the tango.Such a boundless Work Beethoven created, transtemporal.
although, i do love this piece. But there are some really strange parts, and I think its more in the transitions and rests. The harmony is spot on and the theme is great however.
Was that from Copying Beethoven, or Immortal Beloved? Both are excellent movies, but Immortal Believed is incredible. A masterpiece IMO. One of the most underappreciated & underrated movies of all time. In it's own way, every bit as good as the highly acclaimed, Amadeus.
So many comments on here regard this piece as being filled with rage and anger, but I don’t feel this at all. It reminds me of silly playfulness the mind initiates when greatly stressed. An outpouring stream of mixed emotion, once trapped within. String Quarter No.14, VII. Mvt, however, is anger and rage from the same time period, but not the Große Fuge.
Music would never be the same after this. So many composers tried to reach the same level of inventiveness, craftmanship and originality but no one came even near.
Glad I persevered in my appreciation of this piece, as with the Hammerklavier and the Op 111. Late Beethoven is always worth the effort of comprehension (if such a word can be applied to such music).
Fuga para cuarteto de cuerda en Si bemol mayor ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, escrita en 1825. La Grosse Fuge (Gran Fuga) de Beethoven originalmente fue el final del cuarteto de cuerda nº 13 en Si bemol mayor, Op. 130 [subido en este canal]; de hecho, esta obra se compuso por primera vez junto a esta monumental obra originalmente como su sexto y concluyente movimiento. Sin embargo, la Grosse Fuge, una entidad completa por derecho propio, resultó demasiado difícil para los intérpretes y para algunos miembros de la audiencia. Además, parecía un gran final para el cuarteto relativamente modesto. Beethoven produjo posteriormente un nuevo movimiento final para el cuarteto, un atractivo Rondo más acorde con el espíritu de toda la obra. La Grosse Fuge, publicada finalmente como una obra independiente, es uno de los logros de Beethoven, coronación de toda la música de cámara. El trabajo se abre con una introducción, o "obertura". Aquí el estado de ánimo es dramático, preparando efectivamente el escenario para toda la obra. El tema principal - heroico y desafiante, poderoso y seguro de sí mismo - se presenta en cuatro versiones diferentes. Primero, se toca fortissimo, de una manera enfática, asertiva, que resurgirá como su forma definitiva en la coda. Las apariciones siguientes del tema gradualmente se vuelven más y más tranquilas. La primera sección fugada es una doble fuga marcada Allegro. Aquí el tema principal compite contra otro sujeto, que también es fogoso y asertivo. Su lucha, que incluye un desarrollo sustancial, continúa fortissimo. La segunda sección, marcada Meno mosso e moderato, es también una fuga doble, su lirismo proporciona un contraste efectivo con su predecesor. Aquí surge un nuevo tema del contrapunto de la melodía principal. La tercera sección, marcada Allegro molto e con brio, presenta una lucha adicional en la que el tema finalmente vacila y parece desintegrarse. El segundo sujeto de la primera sección fugada emerge y parece tomar el control. Eventualmente, el tema principal es rejuvenecido en un pasaje marcado Meno mosso moderato, y los signos de lucha se desvanecen en las dos subsecciones del Allegro siguiente. La coda presenta el tema principal en su versión original, pero ahora ampliada y claramente triunfante. El humor se vuelve reflexivo y misterioso, y de repente aparece el segundo tema, apoyado por el tema principal. La obra termina poderosamente y de manera magnífica.
Not really. He's a trained musical talent and a great mathematician. You always wrote music before hearing it played back them. The incredible part is staying motivated the last 10 years or his life knowing he can never get the reward of hearing it. Mozart was still #2 all time because of his extra talent . I don't care what they say. :)
This is the music I play when I’m angry with someone, or just a few people. The string orchestra version is what I play when I’m angry at a large group, or just the world.
they always told Beethoven that he is unable to write a proper fugue so he said fuck it all I will show you that I can write bloody fuge. And that's the result.
This sounds like my life. It is rarely in uniform and often in chaos. I don't know and care why it is great or not, but this is unsettling and comforting at the same time.
Audience: I am here to listen to enjoy nice music. Composer: too bad. you are seated already. This piece is not for you to enjoy. It is here to shake your soul, to make you uncomfortable. I write it to educate you. I know few people like to be lectured, nor like their view of the world challenged. But too late, you have nowhere to escape.
@@yalz302 90% of the people in this comment section probably think this doesnt sound good while at the same time talking about about how absolutely magnificent this fugue is. Evidence: The abundance of comments that describe this as “anger”, when it 1. Does not sound angry(subjective ig) 2. Does not make sense in the context of the whole fugue, at all This composition is obviously great and the extensive use of dissonance is innovative of course, but that does not change anything about the ideas presented itself, its not some art-defying thing that people in the comments are making it out to be. It ranks easily with or higher than his late piano sonatas, which have similarly engaging ideas
Beethoven was way ahead of his time here. All the music critics of his day condemned this work. The opening theme is so chromatic, that it resembles the twelve-tone system of the 20th century that Arnold Schoenberg championed and pioneered. Schoenberg himself was a huge fan of this piece. Much of this fugue borders on atonality many years before that was a thing.
My compliments to the Poster for the excellent program notes above. Let me add a few a quotable quotes: "The Great Fugue ... now seems to me the most perfect miracle in music… …It is also the most absolutely contemporary piece of music I know, and contemporary forever ... Hardly birthmarked by its age, the Great Fugue is, in rhythm alone, more subtle than any music of my own century ... I love it beyond everything." -Igor Stravinsky “"the most problematic single work in Beethoven's output and ... doubtless in the entire literature of music.” -Joseph Kernan "For me, the 'Grosse Fuge' is not only the greatest work Beethoven ever wrote but just about the most astonishing piece in musical literature." -Glenn Gould I’ll simply observe that, to my ears, if the listener has a favorite 20th Century “avant-garde” composer (and that could be anyone from Anton Webern to Frank Zappa), that listener will find moments here that seem to actually anticipate those composers, Serialism, and other compositional developments of that century. And Ludwig Van wrote and re-purposed this Musical miracle AFTER he lost his hearing.
Inaccessible, eccentric, filled with paradoxes, say critics at the time. But now considered as one masterpiece of the masterpieces of the Great Beethoven.
Талант попадает в самые далекие, самые трудные, самые невозможные цели. Гений попадает в цели, которые никому, даже самым талантливым стрелкам, не видны. Бетховен - это гений. Эта музыка всегда на столение опережает любой век.
the first four and a half minutes of this are complete and utter insanity and then you get to 4:38 and you're like "finally a part that sounds fucking normal"
This is one of the craziest works (if not the craziest work) by Beethoven. But for me, this is simply the true final of the B flat major quartet op. 130, and it should be played as the "Final Fugue", die "Schlussfuge ". At least, I understand this piece much better this way.
This is just ahead of its time. This is the kind of thing Hollywood turns to when they want "classical" music that fits the mood of their production. That doesn't mean it's bad, or "too commercial." It's just not music for inspiring emotion, it's music to enhance emotion already present. It's the condiment version of music - not an inherently bad thing, but not intended as a main course.
What an ingenious work. The representation of life, hideous in it's true form; you have broken melodies and dissonance, just as life where things don't go as planned, it is all a short period of time where most days are heart aches.
Exquisite playing all around... every recording brings a new hue to this revolutionary masterpiece... The ability to follow the score so splendidly has almost rid me of the need to follow my own mini score's ratty-edged pages... what a delight. Thank you, OLLA-VOGALA!
The technique of the Great Fugue is amazing !!!! Beethoven was ahead of other composers with this work. Premonition of the XIX classical styles !!!! Thanks Olla Vogala
This is like a piece Hindemith could've written in the 1930s or 1940s that was *inspired* by composers like Beethoven, Schubert, and Weber. But here we are, in the 1820s, with Beethoven writing this himself. Way, way ahead of its time.
Sure Beethoven can be said to have started the Romantic period and create the first moments of jazz, but in this piece I think he found a genre of music we’re still trying to find. This might be the music of 2100. It’s like we haven’t caught up to him.
I used to smoke a big doobie and listen to this. So freaky! Now that I no longer indulge in that bad habit, this music still takes me back into that headspace. However, at the same time, I suspect it’s one of those works that help give classical music its reputation among the peasantry for inaccessibility.
I don't think some understand how difficult not only is this to listen to, but to compose in that time period as well. Making all the instruments sound so cohesive yet so dissonant from each other
its composed in 1826 thats why omg it sounds so UNIQUE i really cant explain.... THAT BEGINNING was so like DIFFERENT than any other of beethoven works or even maybe anyone's works the transition to the fugue was also unexpected.... WOW..... everything in this piece makes it so interesting
@@DanielFahimi bartok's string quartet use the string quartet's colour pallette a lot better. Not saying they're better but they are comparable. Probably the most important string quartets since Beethoven's
They meant as far “from” baroque. But there are elements there. I get some Purcell from the early rapid triplets. It’s almost like his mission was to take his theme, incorporate ideas from each preceding musical era and to try to look ahead.
The sheer number of comments on this is fascinating . . . the usual percentage of gnarly or uninformed, but a surprising number of well-considered and intelligent remarks. I like this quartet a great deal - but, then, I appreciate some dissonance in music, so that aspect of the GF doesn't bother me - it adds spice to the work. His quartets as a whole are wonderful, but I especially like the late ones. Seems as if Fred Child was rattling on about the GF on Performance Today a few weeks ago (Feb '20, I think), asking for listener opinion . . . so people are still arguing about it. To my long-listening-but-otherwise-musically-uneducated-ear, the Grosse Fuge is magnificent. Thank you for posting this.
Or he was so isolated from the chaotic sound that for the first time, he saw his own reality in a different juxtaposition that would give him the third perspective of human nature. He wasn’t upset, but at this point at least, accepting. He only got angry when this did not become praised.
*me wearing headphones*
"What are you listening to?"
"Beethoven"
"Nice. Could you send it to me? I need some new classical music to help me sleep"
"Uh, sure. Sweet dreams.."
Level 1-3 hahahahahaha nice!🤣🤣🤣
god this is so unique, you're top comment but deserve more likes lmao
"And while I'm at it, I'll send you 'The Rite of Spring . . . .' " TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fun-ny!
@@richardcleveland8549 And the Poem of Ecstasy
I hate it when people tell me they use classical music to sleep.
After Bach’s Art of Fugue you’d think that no one could ever add anything new and meaningful to fugue literature, and then along comes Beethoven and absolutely knocks it out of the park with the Missa Solemnis and the late piano sonatas and string quartets. But this goes beyond all of that. It is titanic, weird, determinedly ahead of its time, and utterly fascinating. Bach was cataloguing his art with the utmost competence and completeness of form; Beethoven is like a bull in a china shop with his radical innovations and unbridled imagination.
You are wrong, Anton Reicha did it, Reicha created "symmetrical" fugues; one of the subjects of fugue no. 18 consists of a single repeated note. The maximum interval exceeds the ninth: fugue no. 7 extends over more than two octaves, there is polyrhythm... : ua-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/v-deo.html
Bach would not have liked this fugue, he would have found it too barbaric! Anton Reicha developed the fugue after Bach with new processes : ua-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/v-deo.html
I find it amazing because this type of broken harmony and dissonant notes bloomed in the early 1900 with the musical expressionism with Schönberg and Weber.
This piece by Beethoven is way ahead of its time.
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Mozart and Weber, lol. It's Schoenberg and Webern (which are better btw)
Late Beethoven is the epitomy of musical composition, but he is so hard to appreciate.
@@davidbrant390 but schoenberg and webern sound like shit. i know the academic elements of their works, but i still think they sound shitty. every now and then people point out how mozart's string quartet in c 'dissonance' and beethoven late quartets foreshadowed serialism, destruction of tonal hierarchy. further into the romantic line, we have wagner's tristan und isolde, but are these really 'advancement' or 'innovation' in music? i think music got progressively got worse because contemporary composers wrote noise instead of music. is music really going in the right direction? i doubt it
_"Große fuge is an absolutely contemporary piece of music that will be contemporary forever"_
~ Igor Stravinsky
Yet the seemingly enigmatic opening is a bog-standard I-N6-IV-V-I progression, identical to a passage near the opening of the 1st symphony, which I'm sure was a deliberate allusion (or Easter egg, if you like).
@@gspaulsson Context is the key I'd say.
@@gspaulsson It certainly doesn't sound bog standard however. That and the various other shrieks and howls and dissonances found throughout the faster sections give it a contemporary feel, even with a terribly dull performance as presented here.
"Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa Lobos?"
~Igor Stravinsky
Cardi B be like:
So I told Beethoven to ignore the musical norms of his day.. he actually did it the absolute madman
Not a phony?
He simply didn’t listen
Who are you again? Oh, right, that Caulfield guy that knocked on my apartment door who I couldn’t hear very well. Could you speak a bit louder, please?
That kills me. It really does
@@animasonscience9132 He simply couldn't listen
I learned how to write fugues in high school, eventually writing a (mediocre) double fugue, after putting like 5 years of study into it. I'm by no means an "expert" at ALL, but I can follow and understand Bach's fugues pretty well.
I got lost in the 14th measure.
That is funny because it is true.
The fugue is pretty much the most difficult music you can compose. Don't feel bummed out. Making It to the 14th measure is a victory in itself.
don't worry, even Chopin wasn't able to write any decent fugue
The fugue doesn't start until the 25th, the first 24 measures are the overture.
@@1333x_x It's almost like Beethoven even notated where the fugue starts lol
1825.... My God... this was literally a century ahead of its time. I still can not get over the fact this was written in the 1820's....
try this too ua-cam.com/video/kcfDxgfHs64/v-deo.html
Much like the part of his Sonata 32, 2nd movement, when he suddenly begins jazzing
you can find alot of shitty composition from that time which sound "a century ahead of it's time" and this is one of them
@@Whatismusic123 To everyone reading this, the person I'm replying to is just a troll who replies to all the comments they see with the first negative thing they come up with. Ignore them.
@@GUILLOM grow up
0:00 1. Introduction (Overtura)
0:56 2. First Fugue
4:38 3. Slow section
7:25 4. Scherzo and Fugue
11:57 5. Coda
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i don’t care but this is one of the best fugues since bach, this fugue is so well structured and overall the emotion of this fugue is so amazing that lets you the melody be stuck in your head for the rest of the day. beethoven you’re a genius among genius.
Mehhh wasnt that great
@@NarutoSSj6 Listen again and pay attention, normie.
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Hi Bud, I think one day I did something that sounds familiar by it’s character to the Grosse Fugue. Although it’s not a fugue, but similar in style of musical character for notes overriding on top of eachother violently in nature. Just so that we’re friends and you probably do find the Grosse Fugue to be one of the single best music ever written. I’d actually do want to hear your response on one of my videos, maybe you watched it before. But it’s the one I named Beethoven’s Berserker Rage. It’s always amazing to realize people’s thoughts about it whether or not they hear a similarity in character between that & the Grosse Fugue. I’ll really appreciate this so much!! Thanks..
Lol, pretend to enjoy it all you want - it's crap and everyone knows it.
@@louiscorbett3278 If Beethoven is crap than why is he the most well known artist of all time until this very day? I doubt Tupac will ever make it this far or any other contemporary day artists. 2 well known centuries & people still play his music, 2 well known centuries & he’s still being known all over the world. You tell a random stranger walking on the street of the name Beethoven & they’ll respond by saying “oh, you mean the musician? Yes yes I’ve heard about him”. And yet you come here all knowing & obviously heard of Beethoven & think like your opinion actually matters by simply saying it’s crap. I’d really agree with you if Beethoven wasn’t as known nationally worldwide as he is now. Maybe not as much as any other composer in existence, except for the name Beethoven. So little do you & your opinions matter for history to ever remember much minions like you who do nothing BUT preferably hate, cause that’s all of what is left of them for certain reasons. I don’t know what your reason might be for hating such a well known composer, but if I may guess it’s that you like to distinguish yourself by finally being that one guy who thinks they can have a say & most certainly judge the music of Beethoven in a given way, since well I don’t know, you think you belong in the place of God to point fingers on such a given perfect composer. Makes you feel better about yourself doesn’t it? Of course it does, if you think you’re more than Beethoven than hopefully you’ll get what you want one day & have a group of opposing jackals who are able to convince the rest of humanity that Beethoven was actually a piece of shit & we’re actually better, well no take that back, “I AM”, so much more better than he can ever be! This is where people like you come from, because of these selfish human desires, it’s what has become left of the world in regards to art. Art can never be the same again, since it’s been far ruined throughout time, all that remains today are only the ones who existed in the past & are being remembered till now & belong in a exclusive fan base of persons who carry the real appreciation of it. But compared to all other artists of history, Beethoven is the most significant one of them all. You’re welcome for giving you this basic educational information about art & classical music. Since you clearly don’t even know any better.
This and the fugal finale of his Hammerklavier sonata are probably the most difficult pieces of his to appreciate on first hearing. But repeated hearings for many will reap great rewards.
My daughter likes it. She is 6. Months.
Stirling Newberry keep letting your daughter hear it so she will learn at a young age
yes the first time I heard it it was "too heavy" for me, but now I understand it so well that became one of my favorite pieces of all times, one of the highest quality compositions ever
@@SSNewberry she will be a genius
@@javiermedina5313 Mais oui ou mais non.
I call it "Anger over a lost millions of dollars"
SVEN`S WORLD 😆😆😆
lmao
Rage over a lost penny: the sequel
Actually it's even more than money could pay.
😂😂😂😂
Beethoven, as all great masters, dared to ignore the audience's expectations. It is us who have to rise to the difficulties of the work and not the artist who has to bend over to our sense of beauty.
sigma
Indeed
Can't believe this is Beethoven. It seems like it was composed in the early XX century. Genius
I also think so.
4:39
but that part reveals the era
Yo si
That is why the purists who love the classical era, especially those who believe that European academic music reached its absolute peak in the second half of the 18th century, blame Beethoven, alone or above anyone else, for putting music as a whole on an inexorable course of decadence and self-destruction that, in their opinion, has not ceased to worsen after him. And they blame him for everything that they dislike about all subsequent composers to this day (atonality, the twelve-tone system, the arbitrariness in the beat, vulgarization, the "cult of ugliness", the blurring of musical genres and rules to the greater glory of narcissistic extravagance or emotionality, etc.).
@@manuelmanzanero5057 Well said
This piece is difficult to the verge of unplayability. But this quartet plays it very well.
Not hard for pros, which these folks obviously are. Perhaps it was hard in Beethoven's day, but today any reasonably professional quartet won't have any problem with it.
@@zenner41 No the OP is right, they are obvious pros but still struggled to keep time quite a bit, at times it is on the verge on collapse.
Yep, that's why his publisher told him to write another, and tone it down. Sadly this would be his final finished work.
@@zenner41 It's still a very difficult piece, particularly the polyrhythms that can easily throw players off (those offbeat tied eighth notes against the triplets are an absolute beast to play correctly).
@@TurquoiseStar17 Incorrect. Beethoven's final major finished work was String Quartet No. 16 in F major, Op. 135, completed in Oct 1826, Beethoven died in March 1827, after months bedridden with illness.
This is literally my favourite Beethoven composition of all time. I’ve heard it since age 14 and I think I can say I’ve heard it hundreds of times.
Sir, I'm 14. It's a pleasure to see you and listening to thing masterpiece!
It's so bad. How could anyone prefer this to beautiful music, it's just dissonant and weird. Beethoven in general was inferior to his predecessors.
@@ChucksExotics 😮😂
A ok
you should remove the h from your user name and that would represent your opinion very well.
He paved the way for modern music, I firmly believe musical developments like metal wouldn't be what it is today without Beethoven
Every time I return to listen to this piece the world seemingly stands still…. Thank you to the worlds most tortured genius. Long may he live in our ears and our hearts.
You can almost hear the frustration in the composition. The feeling of isolation he must have been dealing with slowly losing the ability to not only hear his own work but the audible connection to life itself. Eerie. Great interpretation by the musicians IMO
He had been completely deaf for more than 10 years when writing this piece. Just saying
This was after Beethoven came to terms with life and his deafness(Piano Sonata 31)
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@@Torebordalpiano He didn't go completely deaf at all, though. Just saying
It's Prinzip Hoffnung: Hope for the Blissful State of Affairs of Everyone by way of Revolution
giga-mega-super-fuge
.. that's not even a proper fugue. ua-cam.com/video/OuYY1gV8jhU/v-deo.html
That's about the size of it.
Indeed!
super-ultra-hyper-mega-meta fugue
@@EthanPearson If Jacob writes a (decent) fugue I would blow my mind!
it's a weird feeling to know that Beethoven never heard this song, and people a few hundred years in the future heard it before he ever would
Beethoven heard this... On his own head, that's was enough to him
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven completely lost his hearing while composing the Hammerklavier sonata (1817-1818), no longer being able to hear anything else, he installed a metallic horn on his piano that when he was going to compose it bit the horn so that he could feel the vibrations in his skull
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven's friends and editors, because they thought Beethoven was completely deaf he was no longer understanding music or composition, but Beethoven was composing songs 100 years ahead of his time (this fugue is one of them in his late period)
@@lisztomaniac2718 he did have perfect pitch and there is no doubt that he could hear all the music he wrote in his head probably better than we can
*piece
Beethoven's True masterpiece
@Quinn Gray There can be many masterpieces but only one Magnum Opus, and that is this godly piece.
with Beethoven it's always a problem to chose the best composition because they are all masterpieces, almost all of them, I think 9ths is the greatest masterpiece from Beethoven.
Amadeus Beethoven said his 8th Symphony was his best work. That's curious considering it's an untroubled, classical piece that's worlds away from this, or any of the late quartets, or the 9th symphony.
John Appleseed it's impressive, and after 15 minutes of torment, it concludes in pure Beethovenian fashion: triumphantly.
Symphony no 9 is his biggest masterpiece.
The greatest music ever. In the peack of his deaf, he evolved into a super-man. Love you Ludwig, with all my heart.
Even if he had only ever composed this, he would still be among the greatest composers of all time, if not still the greatest.
Sike
lmaooo no.
Noble words, but is this piece even top listened in your own playlist?
@@martinsaroch3512 Yes, actually! It's in my regular rotation, up there with Schoenberg's Verklarte Nacht in terms of most-listened pieces.
@@stefanpredoi4564 Schoenberg’s first and Beethoven’s last, interesting combination.
fugasm
Wroar lol
My god😂😂
I’ve heard people don’t enjoy this for how it sounds but what it presents intellectually and whatnot, or they just don’t like it at all. Am I the only one who enjoys this? It’s packed full of pure emotion!
It has a strange allure. I hear a genius that's deeply frustrated with the limits of the formalism and conventions of his art. It's authentic Music that's 200 years too early to be appreciated, and maybe it'll take another 100. I'm a layman, but I've heard everything from Beethoven and in my opinion this is his most remarkable piece because it's so different to everything else he wrote. This music won't come to you, you have to go its place. It's reported that some people thought the old master was now completely deaf and mad after listening to this piece and it was controversial even before being published.
Grosse fugue is the perfect example of the importance of many listens in any music with complex structure. I can feel goosebumps
beethoven's late music as crazy as scriabin' late music,and they are greatest
00:05 : Introduction (Overtura)
00:56 : Première fugue allegro (premier mouvement rapide)
04:38 : Deuxième fugue meno mosso et moderato (mouvement lent)
07:25 : Troisième fugue allegro molto e con brio (scherzo)
11:57 : Coda
12:26 : troisième fugue
14:10 : retour des différents éléments thématiques (cyclique)
7:26 - 15:39 has become my favorite few minutes of music so far
His hearing was completely gone by the time he wrote this.
We know, it shows.
Not completely, he was 'hearing' the sounds in his head.
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@@Pawel_Malecki this is rubbish Pawel - Beethoven had perfect pitch and heard the music inside himself
@@larsthorsmith8369 Beethoven is rubbish and your comment sounds rather religious.
I love Beethoven's music so much, he's my favorite, but this I heard for the first time now. It's weird and great and emotional and everything at the same time, wow!
Well such a group of comments from despair to love. The work was beautiful. Intellectually deep. Consistent and vibrant. I heard conversations and the complex expressions between duelling Entities. It’s like a struggles which occupies your mind. One trying to resolve conflict and maintain some harmony however, your vexed and sometimes overtaken by anger and retaliatory thoughts. When in the deep, your anchor is sanity and you sift through the turmoil to untangle and resolve towards Harmony if possible. In this work the harmony is an intense discourse which is balanced and beautiful. The fugue is an intellectual dance. I can just imagine some masterful dancers expressing themselves through this music, a story to be told. I remember the fantastical tango dancing I had seen in Argentina. Performed by strong athletic and graceful masters of the tango.Such a boundless Work Beethoven created, transtemporal.
"My God you are more deaf than I thought."
lol
2x lol
although, i do love this piece. But there are some really strange parts, and I think its more in the transitions and rests. The harmony is spot on and the theme is great however.
Was that from Copying Beethoven, or Immortal Beloved? Both are excellent movies, but Immortal Believed is incredible. A masterpiece IMO. One of the most underappreciated & underrated movies of all time. In it's own way, every bit as good as the highly acclaimed, Amadeus.
Amen
Everyone: Ahhhh, I just love classical music. It's so calming and peaceful.
Us, being intellectuals:
the "classical music is sleeping music" cliche is so inaccurate.
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 Ikr
@@LachlanTyrrell2003"classical music is stilling music"
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 everytime i hear that i just wanna blast shostakovich symphony 11 in their ears
@@unnamed_boi xD
So many comments on here regard this piece as being filled with rage and anger, but I don’t feel this at all. It reminds me of silly playfulness the mind initiates when greatly stressed. An outpouring stream of mixed emotion, once trapped within. String Quarter No.14, VII. Mvt, however, is anger and rage from the same time period, but not the Große Fuge.
Genius. Thank you for this.
Music would never be the same after this. So many composers tried to reach the same level of inventiveness, craftmanship and originality but no one came even near.
Glad I persevered in my appreciation of this piece, as with the Hammerklavier and the Op 111. Late Beethoven is always worth the effort of comprehension (if such a word can be applied to such music).
This is the music of the most profoundly juxtaposed soul. Utterly otherworldly. The work of the master! I love it.
And to think he wrote this while completely deaf😍😍😍
Legend
I actually think being deaf is a necessary requirement to write something this awful.
@@Pawel_Malecki ok boomer
Now shut up🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@Pawel_Malecki
i agree
@@Pawel_Malecki😮 ernsthaft??
Fuga para cuarteto de cuerda en Si bemol mayor ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, escrita en 1825.
La Grosse Fuge (Gran Fuga) de Beethoven originalmente fue el final del cuarteto de cuerda nº 13 en Si bemol mayor, Op. 130 [subido en este canal]; de hecho, esta obra se compuso por primera vez junto a esta monumental obra originalmente como su sexto y concluyente movimiento. Sin embargo, la Grosse Fuge, una entidad completa por derecho propio, resultó demasiado difícil para los intérpretes y para algunos miembros de la audiencia. Además, parecía un gran final para el cuarteto relativamente modesto. Beethoven produjo posteriormente un nuevo movimiento final para el cuarteto, un atractivo Rondo más acorde con el espíritu de toda la obra.
La Grosse Fuge, publicada finalmente como una obra independiente, es uno de los logros de Beethoven, coronación de toda la música de cámara. El trabajo se abre con una introducción, o "obertura". Aquí el estado de ánimo es dramático, preparando efectivamente el escenario para toda la obra. El tema principal - heroico y desafiante, poderoso y seguro de sí mismo - se presenta en cuatro versiones diferentes. Primero, se toca fortissimo, de una manera enfática, asertiva, que resurgirá como su forma definitiva en la coda. Las apariciones siguientes del tema gradualmente se vuelven más y más tranquilas.
La primera sección fugada es una doble fuga marcada Allegro. Aquí el tema principal compite contra otro sujeto, que también es fogoso y asertivo. Su lucha, que incluye un desarrollo sustancial, continúa fortissimo. La segunda sección, marcada Meno mosso e moderato, es también una fuga doble, su lirismo proporciona un contraste efectivo con su predecesor. Aquí surge un nuevo tema del contrapunto de la melodía principal. La tercera sección, marcada Allegro molto e con brio, presenta una lucha adicional en la que el tema finalmente vacila y parece desintegrarse. El segundo sujeto de la primera sección fugada emerge y parece tomar el control. Eventualmente, el tema principal es rejuvenecido en un pasaje marcado Meno mosso moderato, y los signos de lucha se desvanecen en las dos subsecciones del Allegro siguiente. La coda presenta el tema principal en su versión original, pero ahora ampliada y claramente triunfante. El humor se vuelve reflexivo y misterioso, y de repente aparece el segundo tema, apoyado por el tema principal. La obra termina poderosamente y de manera magnífica.
Muchas gracias por tu comentario. 💜
Ahhh, creo que todo ésto lo acabo de leer en Wikipedia... 🤔
Gracias x tu comentario
"what the hell do I care what my music sounds like? It's not like *I* have to listen to it!"
- Beethoven, 1825
There is always that one piece by a composer that sounds a period ahead, this is his. Edit: He practically invented Contemporary music.
Yeah, with bach it's probably its fantasia BWV 906
Piano sonata 32 movement 2 too
Well it kind of sounds like the chad in your pfp
The fact that he wrote this while deaf is incredible
Pour les harmonies du heiliger dankgedang , oui !!!
Mais pas pour ça .
Not really. He's a trained musical talent and a great mathematician. You always wrote music before hearing it played back them. The incredible part is staying motivated the last 10 years or his life knowing he can never get the reward of hearing it. Mozart was still #2 all time because of his extra talent . I don't care what they say. :)
Number 2 behind Bach. BEETHOVEN IS 3RD.
0:10 I'm a simple man: I hear DSCH, i press like instantly.
bethoveen predicted Shostakovich
A deaf dude made this and i cant even do riptide on a ukelele, this man is way over my league
He was way over all of our leagues ;) except maybe Bach's...
Considering he was fully deaf when he wrote this, it just makes this even more amazing
Yeah, at times you can pretty much hear his frustration poured into this.
He wrote some of his best music while completely deaf.
@@Bucketheadhead Indeed. He was quite brilliant
@@tempoticandmeepstar7584 I must take issue with you sir, he was not quite brilliant; he was absolutely magnificent.
@@Bucketheadhead You are right
This is the music I play when I’m angry with someone, or just a few people. The string orchestra version is what I play when I’m angry at a large group, or just the world.
then you absolutely don't get this piece, fuck you
they always told Beethoven that he is unable to write a proper fugue so he said fuck it all I will show you that I can write bloody fuge. And that's the result.
This sounds like my life. It is rarely in uniform and often in chaos. I don't know and care why it is great or not, but this is unsettling and comforting at the same time.
Audience: I am here to listen to enjoy nice music.
Composer: too bad. you are seated already. This piece is not for you to enjoy. It is here to shake your soul, to make you uncomfortable. I write it to educate you. I know few people like to be lectured, nor like their view of the world challenged. But too late, you have nowhere to escape.
this music is ugly i shall listen to the 6th symphony instead
@@weewee2169 Shut up!
@@weewee2169 Did you even listen to the point?!?
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven
nah you didnt say that ahahaha
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Don't mind that cattle.
This is the one work of Beethoven’s that Igor Stravinsky pointed out as not too bad.
More than not too Bad: incrédible ,hé says
I don’t deserve to hear this. This is the greatest piece of music I have ever heard.
I am not here to disagree but do you mind explaining why?
@@yalz302 90% of the people in this comment section probably think this doesnt sound good while at the same time talking about about how absolutely magnificent this fugue is. Evidence: The abundance of comments that describe this as “anger”, when it 1. Does not sound angry(subjective ig) 2. Does not make sense in the context of the whole fugue, at all
This composition is obviously great and the extensive use of dissonance is innovative of course, but that does not change anything about the ideas presented itself, its not some art-defying thing that people in the comments are making it out to be. It ranks easily with or higher than his late piano sonatas, which have similarly engaging ideas
Thank you olla-vogala. Critics of the Grosse Fuge, just aren't up to it. Just thrilling to follow the score. My thanks.
The pain, anguish and passion…wow
This almost sounds like a Shostakovich string quartet.
true
Shostakovich almost sounds like this.
@@AAA.AAA5 This is absolutely what i was going to say. Every modern shit is just trying to copy this genial work
@@authenticmusic4815 lol, Shostakovich a modern shit. You're funny
Beethoven was way ahead of his time here. All the music critics of his day condemned this work. The opening theme is so chromatic, that it resembles the twelve-tone system of the 20th century that Arnold Schoenberg championed and pioneered. Schoenberg himself was a huge fan of this piece. Much of this fugue borders on atonality many years before that was a thing.
My compliments to the Poster for the excellent program notes above.
Let me add a few a quotable quotes:
"The Great Fugue ... now seems to me the most perfect miracle in music…
…It is also the most absolutely contemporary piece of music I know, and contemporary forever ...
Hardly birthmarked by its age, the Great Fugue is, in rhythm alone, more subtle than any music of my own century ...
I love it beyond everything."
-Igor Stravinsky
“"the most problematic single work in Beethoven's output and ... doubtless in the entire literature of music.”
-Joseph Kernan
"For me, the 'Grosse Fuge' is not only the greatest work Beethoven ever wrote but just about the most astonishing piece in musical literature."
-Glenn Gould
I’ll simply observe that, to my ears, if the listener has a favorite 20th Century “avant-garde” composer (and that could be anyone from Anton Webern to Frank Zappa), that listener will find moments here that seem to actually anticipate those composers, Serialism, and other compositional developments of that century.
And Ludwig Van wrote and re-purposed this Musical miracle AFTER he lost his hearing.
If this fugue is grosse, imagine how good Beethoven's Deliciouse Fugue would be.
**Ba Dum Tsse**
Inaccessible, eccentric, filled with paradoxes, say critics at the time. But now considered as one masterpiece of the masterpieces of the Great Beethoven.
I think whatever's going on in the score at 11:17 is the Beethovenian equivalent of "more cowbell".
@@HanoiViaBangkok Every note marked _forte_
Талант попадает в самые далекие, самые трудные, самые невозможные цели. Гений попадает в цели, которые никому, даже самым талантливым стрелкам, не видны. Бетховен - это гений. Эта музыка всегда на столение опережает любой век.
the first four and a half minutes of this are complete and utter insanity and then you get to 4:38 and you're like "finally a part that sounds fucking normal"
This is one of the craziest works (if not the craziest work) by Beethoven. But for me, this is simply the true final of the B flat major quartet op. 130, and it should be played as the "Final Fugue", die "Schlussfuge ". At least, I understand this piece much better this way.
I’ma call it “When beethoven meets Webern” imagine that would be a fascinating moment to create this quartet.
This is just ahead of its time. This is the kind of thing Hollywood turns to when they want "classical" music that fits the mood of their production. That doesn't mean it's bad, or "too commercial." It's just not music for inspiring emotion, it's music to enhance emotion already present. It's the condiment version of music - not an inherently bad thing, but not intended as a main course.
what the hell are you talking about??? hollywood music is as inoffensive as it gets, and this is anything but.
What an ingenious work. The representation of life, hideous in it's true form; you have broken melodies and dissonance, just as life where things don't go as planned, it is all a short period of time where most days are heart aches.
nice
marvellous~ ahead of time by 100 years
0:55 All I hear is Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe
Biibi R now i can’t unhear this
@@allenwang202 lmao sorry. i just finished watching the lion king with my nephew when i wrote this comment
@TheBmo4538 silence, shitheel.
@TheBmo4538 Are you disabled
@TheBmo4538 did you escape from a mental hospital?
Exquisite playing all around... every recording brings a new hue to this revolutionary masterpiece... The ability to follow the score so splendidly has almost rid me of the need to follow my own mini score's ratty-edged pages... what a delight. Thank you, OLLA-VOGALA!
+cubanbach You're very welcome :)
:) I'm so glad! :)
Many criticized Beethoven for his peculiar approach to form but DID HE LISTEN?
Oldest joke there is out there, but still gold.
a piece he wrote when he was completely deaf... Extraordinary
The technique of the Great Fugue is amazing !!!! Beethoven was ahead of other composers with this work. Premonition of the XIX classical styles !!!! Thanks Olla Vogala
Sebastian, you are very welcome!!
This is like a piece Hindemith could've written in the 1930s or 1940s that was *inspired* by composers like Beethoven, Schubert, and Weber. But here we are, in the 1820s, with Beethoven writing this himself. Way, way ahead of its time.
And he was deaf on top of that!
If only Beethoven had lived to not hear how this piece single-handedly inspired/predicted Schoenberg's approach to atonality.
This is the greatest thing I have ever heard, actually
by the way olla vogala you are a god doing so much for art music
Sure Beethoven can be said to have started the Romantic period and create the first moments of jazz, but in this piece I think he found a genre of music we’re still trying to find. This might be the music of 2100. It’s like we haven’t caught up to him.
My Lord, how i've never stood a chance listening to this piece without choking up and wiping tears from my eyes.
The predecessor of Brett's Lofi
I used to smoke a big doobie and listen to this. So freaky! Now that I no longer indulge in that bad habit, this music still takes me back into that headspace. However, at the same time, I suspect it’s one of those works that help give classical music its reputation among the peasantry for inaccessibility.
I don't think some understand how difficult not only is this to listen to, but to compose in that time period as well. Making all the instruments sound so cohesive yet so dissonant from each other
...he should’ve written a series of fugues like this one...that would’ve been even more incredible...
its composed in 1826 thats why omg it sounds so UNIQUE i really cant explain.... THAT BEGINNING was so like DIFFERENT than any other of beethoven works or even maybe anyone's works the transition to the fugue was also unexpected.... WOW..... everything in this piece makes it so interesting
It literally sounds like a piece from the 1900s
After that Bartok's quartets sounds nice.
No! This piece is God-Like
not to mention they are much, much, much more well written!!!
@@elcucumber2847 Shut up!!!!!!!!!
@@elcucumber2847 No Chamber work on earth is better than the Grosse Fuge other than Mozart's Adagio and Fugue In C Minor!!!!!!!
@@DanielFahimi bartok's string quartet use the string quartet's colour pallette a lot better. Not saying they're better but they are comparable. Probably the most important string quartets since Beethoven's
Beethoven's greatest work!
This is the perfect combination of Baroque and Romantic.
I don't know man, this sounds as far to Baroque as it can get
@@gmmgmmg I would say this combines modern and late romantic. But baroque? What sounds baroque to you here?
El Fogon Del Buen Gusto Nothing, 0% baroque, that's exactly what I meant.
They meant as far “from” baroque. But there are elements there. I get some Purcell from the early rapid triplets. It’s almost like his mission was to take his theme, incorporate ideas from each preceding musical era and to try to look ahead.
it sounds more baroque than modern
11:17 - 11:55
About 40 seconds of true ecstasy...
It is necessary to know the pain and the anguish, the pain to be able to understand this marvelous work and a god of course
This music is like Michelangelo carving with wooden tools, Caravaggio painting blind, yet in the hands and mind of the master, anything is possible…
Quasi-atonality in the 19th century, how nice!
This is music❤
I find it splendid.
Merci Hidéo, je suis là à cause de toi
Idem 🤣
The sheer number of comments on this is fascinating . . . the usual percentage of gnarly or uninformed, but a surprising number of well-considered and intelligent remarks. I like this quartet a great deal - but, then, I appreciate some dissonance in music, so that aspect of the GF doesn't bother me - it adds spice to the work. His quartets as a whole are wonderful, but I especially like the late ones. Seems as if Fred Child was rattling on about the GF on Performance Today a few weeks ago (Feb '20, I think), asking for listener opinion . . . so people are still arguing about it. To my long-listening-but-otherwise-musically-uneducated-ear, the Grosse Fuge is magnificent. Thank you for posting this.
Che, qué grosa esta fuga!
9:43 - 10:03 i feel you beethoven
Beethoven was clearly upset when composed this, to show the beauty and ugliness on the world in one piece
Or he was so isolated from the chaotic sound that for the first time, he saw his own reality in a different juxtaposition that would give him the third perspective of human nature. He wasn’t upset, but at this point at least, accepting. He only got angry when this did not become praised.
This is basically the XIX century equivalent of Trout Mask Replica.
Was looking for this comment.
He really did take “just do it!” to the next level🤣🤣
I can't believe that Beethoven senpai mentioned me in a fugue!
"Hey Hans, check my latest fugue out, I just finished it." **STARTS PLAYING**
"Wow Ludwig, you really *are* deaf."