To hear Patty Duke tell it, the director kept Judy waiting till late afternoon. By then, she was crocked on something. Some think they only hired her for publicity, knew it would be trouble, and then, looked for a reason to fire her. Still, she sings the hell out of this lousy song! Thank God for recordings! 🌈
Poor Patty Duke. She loathed her director in that film and he gave it right back to her. She writes in CALL ME ANNA that the film's producers took the cast on a cruise ship--along with Jacqueline Susann--and premiered the movie on the boat. Unfortunately, the film ran fast and people's voices came out high-pitched and goofy. However, once VOTD was in general release it made a fortune. I would like to see an honest-to-goodness remake of it, one that more closely follows events in the novel. The casting in the original was pretty much right on but the performances were so uniformly terrible that you just had to sit in the theater and suspend your disbelief while holding your nose. Not to mention the cheap shaky sets and an audience of four old men showing up for Helen Lawson's "Big Night." One of the set pieces on stage had dirty fingerprints all over it. Were the director, the cast and the entire crew on Quaaludes? Almost unbelievable that so trashy a product could be released in the USA as a full-length movie, and even more unbelievable that it could earn back all the money it did. As ever, people all over the world are starving for thrills.
I swear just like the book and the movie, this song is the definition of a guilty pleasure. Nonetheless, Judy could sing her ass off no matter how mediocre the song was.
As dumb as the song is, she really takes you on a journey. For me, I'm hooked when her voice gets quiet in the first, "I see is my tree." Her dynamics are so good.
Incredible performances was what Judy was all about! She gave every song everything inside and more! She was a Showman like very few others have achievedl
I wish she could have made votd's....what a great person..I miss her endeavors..oh, Judy. U were the top of the tops.. entertainer of the 20th century. Till the clouds roll by🌈
Don't you love watching Susan Hayward on the stage of the New Haven Shubert theatre dancing among the mobile scenery that looks like it's gonna decapitate her any moment???
It's that "choreography" that always gets me. You'd need a really good Chiropractor after all those bizarre pelvic gyrations, and back and forth stomps!
The lyrics of this and many of the songs in the movie are completely nonsensical which adds to the shear absurdity of the film. The mobile abstract set, while wearing an evening gown and singing about planting a tree is so bonkers. Like what the hell is she singing about and in what context of that musical is that scene supposed to be? Lol plus that friggin mobile needed Windex! It had fingerprints all over it! Lol also Neely’s song Impossible is ridiculous. “It’s impossible it’s not my style. If I tried it I’d miss by a mile. Gee Lucky for me far as I know far as I see. Luck won’t say yes baby unless you say so too?” WTF?!
I have to wonder what Dory's inspiration was. Perhaps Andre planted something in her and made it grow. That said, I certainly was right. After much research on the topic, and thoughtful deliberation, I reached the conclusion that the lyrics of "I'll Plant My Own Tree" just didn't quite seem like the handiwork of Mr. Porter.
@@crankenstein70 "Night and Day" and "Let's Do It" and "I Love Paris In the Springtime" and "I've Got You Under My Skin." What a no-talent. Give me "I'll Plant My Own Tree" or I will put up a fight!
I was all ready to talk schet about Judy being overrated and this song basically being a Trolley knockoff, but she SOLD this song despite her thinking it was stupid. Respect.
But the way she was about showing up, leaving and crashing and being reliable plus her physical self was hardly able to walk a straight line. They made the right choice.
@@laurenmontera9516 you really need to watch The Patty Duke interview on what actually happened. Then, perhaps you may actually understand and stop repeating the rumors by some people who weren't there and don't know what they are talking about.🤔
@@waynehentley4332 Thank you so very much for your comment. Obviously, you have read, studied and know all of the many facts about what actually happened here!🧐 I have been a Judy Garland fan for over 50 years and I have read and studied everything about Judy. Unlike most ignorant people who have only read one or two things and consider themselves a major authority all about Judy Garland who are making impulsive and ignorant comments that aren't true!😱🧐🤔It is so very wonderful to see that there are intelligent people out there who understands and know all of the many facts.🤗💌😇
Judy was another sad example of natural talent that was abused by her own mother and taken advantage of by a competitive and greedy entertainment industry.
@@zzzbbbooo She did. She wasn't fired by MGM; she got a release from her contract. From then on she did whatever she wanted. Actually, she did things her own way BEFORE leaving MGM, which is why they were glad to release her. Nobody, including her mother, could make her do anything, but that's not the kind of image of her that people want to know about.
Judy worked for 2 days and was fired. She did keep several of the costumes/dresses designed by the wonderful William Travilla. The director Mark Robson was a real bastard to work with. Patty Duke had a rough time with Robson.
Yes…and no…I always understood it as the singer stating their individuality..hey, Strawberry Fields or I am the Walrus..great songs but honestly…”I am tje Walrus..I am the eggman..koo koo ka choo ? “ a great song just needs a certain “vibe” & I’ll plant… has it!!!!
I’ll plant my own tree And I’ll make it grow My tree will not be just one in a row My tree will offer shade when strangers go by If you’re a stranger, brother, well so am I! Come tomorrow all that I see is my tree Oh, lord. What a sight! Let someone stop me And I will put up a fight! It’s my yard, so I will try hard To welcome friends, I have yet to know! Oh, I’ll plant my own tree My own tree And I’ll make it grow! My tree will not be just one in a row My tree will offer shade when strangers go by If you’re a stranger, brother, well so am I! Come tomorrow all that I see is my tree Oh, lord. What a sight! Let someone stop me And I will put up a fight! It’s my yard, so I will try hard To welcome friends, I have yet to know! Oh, I’ll plant My own tree My own tree And I’ll make it grow!
Just discovered this gem 💎. I always felt that Susan Hayward ( Helen Lawson) was not the voice heard in this OTT number. Susan and Judy both great talents gone too soon 😢. 🏆👑. 🌟. BELIEVE this was Susan's last film role.
Sub-sub-par Judy, and it's still light years ahead of the lip-synched version in the film. This also made me realize how the tempo is way too fast for the music and lyrics. Of course, it doesn't help that it's a lousy song.
The singer (who dubbed in for the character Helen in the movie) was far too meek and young which made the voice coming out of Helen's mouth seem really awkward and fake! Crap song but Judy sang the hell out of it!
@@Pygar200 I have seen the wardrobe tests, and I didn't think she looked like herself at all with those long hairpieces. The dresses were glamorous in a sort of 1967 way. She got PLENTY of use out of the pantsuit. (And it suited her very well in concert ... she actually had several more made and pretty much adopted that look for the rest of her career.)
it would have been so much better with judy garland in that role in my opinon she had no intentions of doing a role that was the opposite of what she represented to the world she took the wardrode car used her experience to get herself fired she also received full pay she knew what she was doing the entire time Dorothy could never be helen Lawson
Why did they use Margaret Whiting voice for Susan Hayward voice in "Valley of the Dolld" why didn't they use Judy's version since they had it as displayed here ? Or better yet why didn't they let Susan Hayward sing it ? Susan proved she could sing good in "I'll Cry Tomorroe . This thing was so messed-up.
Ironically she was going to play Helen Lawson who was alter ego of Ethel Merman, and Patty Duke played Neely O'hara who was the alter ego of Judy Garland. But Garland was fired due to acting exactly like Neely did in the film
It's like seeing your mother drunk. They hit a home run with the Dionne song, so beautiful but this is a steaming pile. The wig scene would have failed with Judy. She was too fragile to do it. Susan tore it up. Class.
This role could have been her final bow and a triumph had she not been so strung out. A real tragedy. She still had it all, but her demons led her astray
In this song, her character is supposed to look, sound and be the very greatest of all the world's top Broadway stars. She doing what her character is supposed to be doing! She is performing electrifyingly and creating her Broadway magic!!
The movie was not a musical were the producers actually contemplating using this song as the opening and or closing the movie? Or was this a number Helen Lawson performed in the movie. That must be it
Actually, all the comments on the song indicate a lack of knowledge of metaphor and image on the part of the people who have zero imagination ability. Sad humans!
WHAT'S with the hair-dos in this movie? Their hair was always huge when they were drunk or high, and then it just flattened out like a tire when they sobered up. And WHAT was with the bizarre hairpieces or "falls" as they were called in the USA? Imagine wearing ten pounds of fake hair, plus some sort of gigantic headgear, then having to walk around in a bathing suit and stilettos. What? What?
I love Susan Hayward.but Judy Garland in the Helen Lawson role would have given "Valley" the umptf it needed. Knowing Judy's drug and antics as a well "THE DIVA" what a shame. Barbara Parkins didn't cae for Judy...who's Barbara "Who"? Peyton Place...Judy would have won an Oscar for sure. Hollywood sucks sometimes..well a lot lately
Actually Barbara Parkins had only been working with Judy Garland for two days when the legendary actress was fired for not coming out of her dressing room (and possibly being drunk). “I called up Jackie Susann, who I had become close to-I didn’t call up the director strangely enough-and I said, ‘What do I do? I’m nervous about going on the set with Judy Garland and I might get lost in this scene because she knows how to chew up the screen,’” Parkins told Windy City Times. “She said, ‘Honey, just go in there and enjoy her.’ So I went onto the set and Judy came up to me and wrapped her arms around me and said, ‘Oh, baby, let’s just do this scene,’ and she was wonderful.”
No way. Susan Hayward was a tough nut with edge...and that's what Helen Lawson was like. I don't think Garland - talented though she was - would have as effectively pulled it off like Susan did.
The director treated poor Judy like trash. They made her wait for hours to film her scenes knowing full well she would start drinking and by time she was called on set she would be in no condition to perform.
Judy should have played Helen Lawson. whatever problems they had with her, they should have worked with her, reminded her, that this was an opportunity to come back in movies. sadly, they did not. Susan Hayward, posturing before those whatever things to distract us, and dubbed by Margaret Whiting, was not enough. but, besides this, Lena Horne sang this saccharine song better than anyone, including Judy. Judy would probably agree.
What a dumb song, but it shows how a great singer can elevate trash to treasure. I would love to have seen what Judy would have done with the Helen Lawson role. Nothing against Susan Hayward but Garland's interpretation would have been a sight to see.
ok.. weellllllll.. I kinda can see why they wanted to use the Margaret Whiting version.. poor Judy, clearly her voice was in absolute tatters by this point... what a shame.
Actually, Jacqueline Susanne (not sure how to spell her name) thought Judy was totally wrong for the part, but didn't object to her casting because they were friends. (They had played poker together for years.) I believe the producers initially wanted her for the name recognition ... and because one of the characters was obviously based on her, though not the character they cast her to play.
Actually, I think she felt that way. I saw her in concert a couple of months later, and she did not have kind things to say about the experience. She seemed to be glad to have it behind her.
Right, it's pure trash and she came to understand that when she got the script. "I can't say these words," I've read she was quoted as saying. The Helen Lawson dialogue was often crude.
Good ol’ JG dodged one helluva bullet by getting canned from this putrid movie-one of the worst films of all time, except maybe as a *SHOWGIRLS* type of camp monstrosity. And this song, even though she tries her best to save it, is light years beneath her. No wonder she was supposedly beside herself with misery on the set of this stinkfest. She must have realized. Her legacy has only started to be restored in the past two-three decades due to a proper focus upon her startling array of multimedia accomplishments/successes; a film career capped by *this* steaming turd-of-a-movie would have been a disaster. I would have sooner seen her take Joan Crawford’s part in *TROG* … yikes.
Poor Patty Duke. She loathed her director in that film and he gave it right back to her. She writes in CALL ME ANNA that the film's producers took the cast on a cruise ship--along with Jacqueline Susann--and premiered the movie on the boat. Unfortunately, the film ran fast and people's voices came out high-pitched and goofy. However, once VOTD was in general release it made a fortune. I would like to see an honest-to-goodness remake of it, one that more closely follows events in the novel. The casting in the original was pretty much right on but the performances were so uniformly terrible that you just had to sit in the theater and suspend your disbelief while holding your nose. Not to mention the cheap shaky sets and an audience of four old men showing up for Helen Lawson's "Big Night." One of the set pieces on stage had dirty fingerprints all over it. Were the director, the cast and the entire crew on Quaaludes? Almost unbelievable that so trashy a product could be released in the USA as a full-length movie, and even more unbelievable that it could earn back all the money it did. As ever, people all over the world are starving for thrills.
Horrible song...much like "I could go on Singing" soundtrack. Almost unlistenable but Judy can do it. A real shame...the drug abuse/ cigs / booze shows in her singing.
Her voice was dry due to meds she was taking, so I"ve read. They were changed and her voice in late 1968 recovered, but it did not cure her addiction. Her voice is quite supple at the end of her life. 1967 she sounds dry. Her voice recovered, unfortunately she didn't.
only a vocal goddess could make the worst song in movie history sound like a million.. Imagine Judy(coaching) and Patty really singing... what a majorly different outcome this might of had, if after a script revision with a competent, unchauvinistic director. Perkins was perfect, most don't realize how dull models can be.... Grant was the hammy weak link, Hayward brought the melodramatic camp that saved it from extinction, or tied with Grant, depending if your gay. Tate was the perfect "doll" for Dolls.
Judy takes this awful song and makes it sound good. The singer in the movie, Margaret Whiting, couldn't make this God awful song sound good if we were deaf. And these songs were written by Andre Previn and the other Previn. They must have "wrote" these songs after hanging out with Judy. Ha. But Judy sang it good.
it would have been so much better with judy garland in that role in my opinon she had no intentions of doing a role that was the opposite of what she represented to the world she took the wardrode car used her experience to get herself fired she also received full pay she knew what she was doing the entire time Dorothy could never be helen Lawson
To hear Patty Duke tell it, the director kept Judy waiting till late afternoon. By then, she was crocked on something. Some think they only hired her for publicity, knew it would be trouble, and then, looked for a reason to fire her. Still, she sings the hell out of this lousy song! Thank God for recordings! 🌈
Poor Patty Duke. She loathed her director in that film and he gave it right back to her. She writes in CALL ME ANNA that the film's producers took the cast on a cruise ship--along with Jacqueline Susann--and premiered the movie on the boat. Unfortunately, the film ran fast and people's voices came out high-pitched and goofy. However, once VOTD was in general release it made a fortune. I would like to see an honest-to-goodness remake of it, one that more closely follows events in the novel. The casting in the original was pretty much right on but the performances were so uniformly terrible that you just had to sit in the theater and suspend your disbelief while holding your nose. Not to mention the cheap shaky sets and an audience of four old men showing up for Helen Lawson's "Big Night." One of the set pieces on stage had dirty fingerprints all over it. Were the director, the cast and the entire crew on Quaaludes? Almost unbelievable that so trashy a product could be released in the USA as a full-length movie, and even more unbelievable that it could earn back all the money it did. As ever, people all over the world are starving for thrills.
I swear just like the book and the movie, this song is the definition of a guilty pleasure. Nonetheless, Judy could sing her ass off no matter how mediocre the song was.
Wish she could have done this role! She sang it out! The others voices were dubbed. Love you Judy!
The lyrics and music are more suited for a juvenile audience but Judy’s voice elevated the song.
Judy could make a song about psoriasis sound great, thats talent baby!!! Once she warmed up her voice was strong, brings it at the end.
Nobody has a vibrato like Judy... I love the way she belts even if she's slightly off... Born Incomparable artist & performer
As dumb as the song is, she really takes you on a journey. For me, I'm hooked when her voice gets quiet in the first, "I see is my tree." Her dynamics are so good.
She owned what this Hollywood role wanted! Would have loved to se3 her perform it. Love you Judy
She hits this bad song, out of the park! The greatest singer ever
I think her voice was still very strong here
joey josephs as a bull i love magic
Judy on her drunkest pill popping day is more talented than those on their best day..
Amen, brother!
Maybe true, but I did like Susan Heyward’s version of this. Judy does it MEGAWATTAGE.
Dear God, where did she get that!
So true. They say this was her worst she sounded asnd she's still mesmerizing.
Amazing woman.
Absolutely. Amazing gift. I miss her.
@@javafiji its wasn’t Susan Hayward’s voice it was dubbed by Margaret whiting ..and the soundtrack album had some else singing it
Incredible performances was what Judy was all about! She gave every song everything inside and more! She was a Showman like very few others have achievedl
This person had so much talent everyone wanted a piece of her! She could do it all! At least we still have the movies, recordings etc.
I wish she could have made votd's....what a great person..I miss her endeavors..oh, Judy. U were the top of the tops.. entertainer of the 20th century. Till the clouds roll by🌈
As a life long Judy fan of course it's fantastic!! Wouldn't expect anything else from Judy. Whatever She had She gave!! God Love Her!!!
Judy Garland could have read the phone-book, and it would have been awesome!
I'm imagining her reading "Barney's Sump Pump and Porta-Potty Maintenance, 240 Industrial Circle 555-4545." Yes, she nails it!
Don't you love watching Susan Hayward on the stage of the New Haven Shubert theatre dancing among the mobile scenery that looks like it's gonna decapitate her any moment???
It's that "choreography" that always gets me. You'd need a really good Chiropractor after all those bizarre pelvic gyrations, and back and forth stomps!
I just want to know what the show was supposed to be about like what does the song mean lol
She was accused of making drag queen gestures. I think it’s pretty apparent.
The lyrics of this and many of the songs in the movie are completely nonsensical which adds to the shear absurdity of the film. The mobile abstract set, while wearing an evening gown and singing about planting a tree is so bonkers. Like what the hell is she singing about and in what context of that musical is that scene supposed to be? Lol plus that friggin mobile needed Windex! It had fingerprints all over it! Lol also Neely’s song Impossible is ridiculous. “It’s impossible it’s not my style. If I tried it I’d miss by a mile. Gee Lucky for me far as I know far as I see. Luck won’t say yes baby unless you say so too?” WTF?!
@@jaymorgenthal9479 Susan was really wooden in that scene with her movements and gestures. Maybe she trying to be a tree? Lol
Happy 100th Birthday today to Judy ❤️🎂
Judy was Great!! By far a gift to the world 🌎 and my favorite singer and entertainer of all-time!!
My Mom liked Garland and she had an amazing voice and listening to her now I must say she was a very good singer .
Judy gives a thrilling performance that is like a wild ride on a roller coaster ride, nails it at the end as only she can do!
Movie or not, she sang the hell out of this song!
Incredible talent - incomparable drive
"It's my yard so I will try hard..." not exactly Cole Porter.
Dory Previn, actually,
I have to wonder what Dory's inspiration was. Perhaps Andre planted something in her and made it grow. That said, I certainly was right. After much research on the topic, and thoughtful deliberation, I reached the conclusion that the lyrics of "I'll Plant My Own Tree" just didn't quite seem like the handiwork of Mr. Porter.
Cole Porter. HA! He should have been so lucky!
@@michaelrandall4862 Luck was all Cole Porter had and it dun run out.
@@crankenstein70 "Night and Day" and "Let's Do It" and "I Love Paris In the Springtime" and "I've Got You Under My Skin." What a no-talent. Give me "I'll Plant My Own Tree" or I will put up a fight!
Such a brilliant rendition of the shittiest song ever written. WHAT A TALENT❤❤❤
I really wish she had been able to have done the movie!!!!!! Susan Hayward was very good, but Judy would have been out of this world.
This couldn't been one of the best scenes throughout the whole movie.
Define best.
I'll plant my own tree. Yes! Inspiring! Love you Judy!
I was all ready to talk schet about Judy being overrated and this song basically being a Trolley knockoff, but she SOLD this song despite her thinking it was stupid. Respect.
she is so phenomenal.They should kept her.
But the way she was about showing up, leaving and crashing and being reliable plus her physical self was hardly able to walk a straight line. They made the right choice.
@@laurenmontera9516 you really need to watch The Patty Duke interview on what actually happened. Then, perhaps you may actually understand and stop repeating the rumors by some people who weren't there and don't know what they are talking about.🤔
@@CharlieChilders-wm9gbIt was everybody else's fault! Definitely not Judy's!!😢😢
@@waynehentley4332 Thank you so very much for your comment. Obviously, you have read, studied and know all of the many facts about what actually happened here!🧐 I have been a Judy Garland fan for over 50 years and I have read and studied everything about Judy. Unlike most ignorant people who have only read one or two things and consider themselves a major authority all about Judy Garland who are making impulsive and ignorant comments that aren't true!😱🧐🤔It is so very wonderful to see that there are intelligent people out there who understands and know all of the many facts.🤗💌😇
This is one incredibly stupid song, but omg, Judy just nails it. Even with her issues, still, what a voice!
Funny you say that because I believe Judy herself didn’t even like it.
It’s a dumb song most definitely but
she sang it the best
I just wish she could
have been in that movie but she was
spared that for a reason RIP Judy❤
She sounds great!
Judy was another sad example of natural talent that was abused by her own mother and taken advantage of by a competitive and greedy entertainment industry.
In later years though, why couldn't she have broken away and done things her own way?
@@zzzbbbooo She did. She wasn't fired by MGM; she got a release from her contract. From then on she did whatever she wanted. Actually, she did things her own way BEFORE leaving MGM, which is why they were glad to release her. Nobody, including her mother, could make her do anything, but that's not the kind of image of her that people want to know about.
Judy worked for 2 days and was fired. She did keep several of the costumes/dresses designed by the wonderful William Travilla. The director Mark Robson was a real bastard to work with. Patty Duke had a rough time with Robson.
She only kept the pantsuit and wore it in her concerts.
He was worst of all to Sharon Tate. Probably because she said no or he knew there was no point asking.
Judy would have been amazing but director was a jerk
The lyrics of this song...... Does it make sense? Does it?
The tree is a metaphor for ... trees.
You have to wonder what the show was about, what was supposed to have taken place just before the song, and what would've happened after it.
Yes…and no…I always understood it as the singer stating their individuality..hey, Strawberry Fields or I am the Walrus..great songs but honestly…”I am tje Walrus..I am the eggman..koo koo ka choo ? “ a great song just needs a certain “vibe” & I’ll plant… has it!!!!
Not a bit of sense.. Another stupid piece of work from Dory and Andre Previn...
I’ll plant my own tree
And I’ll make it grow
My tree will not be just one in a row
My tree will offer shade
when strangers go by
If you’re a stranger,
brother, well so am I!
Come tomorrow all that I see is my tree
Oh, lord. What a sight!
Let someone stop me
And I will put up a fight!
It’s my yard, so I will try hard
To welcome friends, I have yet to know!
Oh, I’ll plant my own tree
My own tree
And I’ll make it grow!
My tree will not be just one in a row
My tree will offer shade
when strangers go by
If you’re a stranger,
brother, well so am I!
Come tomorrow all that I see is my tree
Oh, lord. What a sight!
Let someone stop me
And I will put up a fight!
It’s my yard, so I will try hard
To welcome friends, I have yet to know!
Oh, I’ll plant
My own tree
My own tree
And I’ll make it grow!
Just discovered this gem 💎. I always felt that Susan Hayward ( Helen Lawson) was not the voice heard in this OTT number. Susan and Judy both great talents gone too soon 😢. 🏆👑. 🌟. BELIEVE this was Susan's last film role.
Susan Hayward was overdubbed by Margaret Whiting...
@@1953childstar Thanks for the clarification. Margaret had a great voice. Unfortunately never achieved best opportunities 😕.
The boomers in these comments are hilarious. Coming from a gen z perspective this is fantastic in every way she really ate
Worst song ever lyrically, but Judy brings it to life.
Sub-sub-par Judy, and it's still light years ahead of the lip-synched version in the film. This also made me realize how the tempo is way too fast for the music and lyrics. Of course, it doesn't help that it's a lousy song.
Judy's version is 1,000 times better than the one used in the movie. Too bad she wasn't included.
The singer (who dubbed in for the character Helen in the movie) was far too meek and young which made the voice coming out of Helen's mouth seem really awkward and fake! Crap song but Judy sang the hell out of it!
@@cleeboy5048 The singer who dubbed it was Margaret Whiting. She was actually a fine singer, but this song didn't really give her much to work with.
Susan Heyward made sure Judy got full pay before she accepted the role, that role was just to mean for Judy
I read that she disliked this song.
Thanks. It's from a 1960s sewing pattern cover : ) A lot of them have really cool artwork.
she had every reason to hate it
So did everyone who had ears.
Never seen this pic of Judy as Helen Lawson with the Barbara Parkins Anne Wells fake hair! I didn't think she got this far...
The image is from the wardrobe tests.
@@Pygar200 I have seen the wardrobe tests, and I didn't think she looked like herself at all with those long hairpieces. The dresses were glamorous in a sort of 1967 way. She got PLENTY of use out of the pantsuit. (And it suited her very well in concert ... she actually had several more made and pretty much adopted that look for the rest of her career.)
I wish Judy Garland picked the outfit shown in this outfit. She looks much younger in it
it would have been so much better with judy garland in that role in my opinon she had no intentions of doing a role that was the opposite of what she represented to the world she took the wardrode car used her experience to get herself fired she also received full pay she knew what she was doing the entire time Dorothy could never be helen Lawson
Why did they use Margaret Whiting voice for Susan Hayward voice in "Valley of the Dolld" why didn't they use Judy's version since they had it as displayed here ? Or better yet why didn't they let Susan Hayward sing it ? Susan proved she could sing good in "I'll Cry Tomorroe . This thing was so messed-up.
Yes, Susan could sing well.
Damn !!! I want to hate this shitty , terrible , song , but... Judy tore it up and knocked it out of the park . 😍😘😎
Ironically she was going to play Helen Lawson who was alter ego of Ethel Merman, and Patty Duke played Neely O'hara who was the alter ego of Judy Garland. But Garland was fired due to acting exactly like Neely did in the film
Corny song but she made it sound good
This song is the pits!
It's like seeing your mother drunk. They hit a home run with the Dionne song, so beautiful but this is a steaming pile. The wig scene would have failed with Judy. She was too fragile to do it. Susan tore it up. Class.
She kills a terrible song. No disrespect to Margaret Whiting, but Judy nails it.
Ian Thaddiam man it’s a terrible song.
You think she killed it? He voice is fried as hell.
@@taraniso lies. Nothing but lies and propaganda
@@taraniso to be fair it is just a test record.
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That wig looks so wrong on her!
A lousy song, and I read that Judy understandably hated it.
This role could have been her final bow and a triumph had she not been so strung out. A real tragedy. She still had it all, but her demons led her astray
She sounds lit.
In this song, her character is supposed to look, sound and be the very greatest of all the world's top Broadway stars. She doing what her character is supposed to be doing! She is performing electrifyingly and creating her Broadway magic!!
The movie was not a musical were the producers actually contemplating using this song as the opening and or closing the movie? Or was this a number Helen Lawson performed in the movie.
That must be it
Is a number that Helen performs about 30 minutes into film, on her second (of four) scenes
Actually, all the comments on the song indicate a lack of knowledge of metaphor and image on the part of the people who have zero imagination ability. Sad humans!
What rhymeandreasoning said.
WHAT'S with the hair-dos in this movie? Their hair was always huge when they were drunk or high, and then it just flattened out like a tire when they sobered up. And WHAT was with the bizarre hairpieces or "falls" as they were called in the USA? Imagine wearing ten pounds of fake hair, plus some sort of gigantic headgear, then having to walk around in a bathing suit and stilettos. What? What?
Sad she didn't even make it out of her 40's.
Her choice, though.
Yvonne Leslie Because of the execs that got her addicted since she was a teen. So not necessarily.
Sad some people make it past there 40's. Especially Assholes.
@@ITSFULLOFSTARS1 THEIR 40's.
@@roberthenleynola Speaking of Assholes.
It's a good thing that Judy wasn't in this movie. She was totally wrong for this role.
Judgement @ Nuremberg.
I love Susan Hayward.but Judy Garland in the Helen Lawson role would have given "Valley" the umptf it needed. Knowing Judy's drug and antics as a well "THE DIVA" what a shame. Barbara Parkins didn't cae for Judy...who's Barbara "Who"? Peyton Place...Judy would have won an Oscar for sure. Hollywood sucks sometimes..well a lot lately
Actually Barbara Parkins had only been working with Judy Garland for two days when the legendary actress was fired for not coming out of her dressing room (and possibly being drunk). “I called up Jackie Susann, who I had become close to-I didn’t call up the director strangely enough-and I said, ‘What do I do? I’m nervous about going on the set with Judy Garland and I might get lost in this scene because she knows how to chew up the screen,’” Parkins told Windy City Times. “She said, ‘Honey, just go in there and enjoy her.’ So I went onto the set and Judy came up to me and wrapped her arms around me and said, ‘Oh, baby, let’s just do this scene,’ and she was wonderful.”
No way. Susan Hayward was a tough nut with edge...and that's what Helen Lawson was like. I don't think Garland - talented though she was - would have as effectively pulled it off like Susan did.
An Oscar? You must be joking!!😂😂
The director treated poor Judy like trash. They made her wait for hours to film her scenes knowing full well she would start drinking and by time she was called on set she would be in no condition to perform.
Whose fault was that?😢😢
Judy should have played Helen Lawson. whatever problems they had with her, they should have worked with her, reminded her, that this was an opportunity to come back in movies. sadly, they did not. Susan Hayward, posturing before those whatever things to distract us, and dubbed by Margaret Whiting, was not enough. but, besides this, Lena Horne sang this saccharine song better than anyone, including Judy. Judy would probably agree.
Susan Hayward WAS Helen Lawson.
@@zzzbbbooo yes, pretty good, when she was not posturing in a number in which she did not sing. Judy would have been, most certainly, MUCH better.
What a dumb song, but it shows how a great singer can elevate trash to treasure. I would love to have seen what Judy would have done with the Helen Lawson role. Nothing against Susan Hayward but Garland's interpretation would have been a sight to see.
ok.. weellllllll.. I kinda can see why they wanted to use the Margaret Whiting version.. poor Judy, clearly her voice was in absolute tatters by this point... what a shame.
Judy is too small, delicate, to play such an aggressive mean spirited character
She would have been great as Helen. Lawson.
Actually, Jacqueline Susanne (not sure how to spell her name) thought Judy was totally wrong for the part, but didn't object to her casting because they were friends. (They had played poker together for years.) I believe the producers initially wanted her for the name recognition ... and because one of the characters was obviously based on her, though not the character they cast her to play.
Maybe it's better for Garland's legacy that she ended up not being in this unworthy trash.
Actually, I think she felt that way. I saw her in concert a couple of months later, and she did not have kind things to say about the experience. She seemed to be glad to have it behind her.
Right, it's pure trash and she came to understand that when she got the script. "I can't say these words," I've read she was quoted as saying. The Helen Lawson dialogue was often crude.
Or she could have made it 🌟 turn tour de force, signalled a comeback & saved her life.
@@unowen-nh9ovBut it's such a trashy movie.
Good ol’ JG dodged one helluva bullet by getting canned from this putrid movie-one of the worst films of all time, except maybe as a *SHOWGIRLS* type of camp monstrosity. And this song, even though she tries her best to save it, is light years beneath her. No wonder she was supposedly beside herself with misery on the set of this stinkfest. She must have realized. Her legacy has only started to be restored in the past two-three decades due to a proper focus upon her startling array of multimedia accomplishments/successes; a film career capped by *this* steaming turd-of-a-movie would have been a disaster. I would have sooner seen her take Joan Crawford’s part in *TROG* … yikes.
Poor Patty Duke. She loathed her director in that film and he gave it right back to her. She writes in CALL ME ANNA that the film's producers took the cast on a cruise ship--along with Jacqueline Susann--and premiered the movie on the boat. Unfortunately, the film ran fast and people's voices came out high-pitched and goofy. However, once VOTD was in general release it made a fortune. I would like to see an honest-to-goodness remake of it, one that more closely follows events in the novel. The casting in the original was pretty much right on but the performances were so uniformly terrible that you just had to sit in the theater and suspend your disbelief while holding your nose. Not to mention the cheap shaky sets and an audience of four old men showing up for Helen Lawson's "Big Night." One of the set pieces on stage had dirty fingerprints all over it. Were the director, the cast and the entire crew on Quaaludes? Almost unbelievable that so trashy a product could be released in the USA as a full-length movie, and even more unbelievable that it could earn back all the money it did. As ever, people all over the world are starving for thrills.
Lol. Are there any good gardening songs? ‘Plant my own tree’ is so cringeworthy. Love Judy though.
Gardening is a gay euphemism for ...
giving someone the "branch" , watch it grow, I will plant my own seed , my own seed and I'll make it grow.
Horrible song...much like "I could go on Singing" soundtrack. Almost unlistenable but Judy can do it.
A real shame...the drug abuse/ cigs / booze shows in her singing.
I could go on singing was amazing, a bit slow but good song and lyric
@@mariabarrientos7690 I love ICGOS.
Her voice was dry due to meds she was taking, so I"ve read. They were changed and her voice in late 1968 recovered, but it did not cure her addiction. Her voice is quite supple at the end of her life. 1967 she sounds dry. Her voice recovered, unfortunately she didn't.
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"I'll sing this off-key and they'll let me go." Sorry, Judy, but that's pretty bad.
what a truly horrible song
only a vocal goddess could make the worst song in movie history sound like a million.. Imagine Judy(coaching) and Patty really singing... what a majorly different outcome this might of had, if after a script revision with a competent, unchauvinistic director. Perkins was perfect, most don't realize how dull models can be.... Grant was the hammy weak link, Hayward brought the melodramatic camp that saved it from extinction, or tied with Grant, depending if your gay. Tate was the perfect "doll" for Dolls.
Judy would have made this laughable movie a helluva lot better if they hadn't let her go.
Did you ever hear Hillary Clinton's version?
I think it's a forest by now..
Judy takes this awful song and makes it sound good. The singer in the movie, Margaret Whiting, couldn't make this God awful song sound good if we were deaf. And these songs were written by Andre Previn and the other Previn. They must have "wrote" these songs after hanging out with Judy. Ha. But Judy sang it good.
I, personally, have never liked Margaret Whiting singing ANYTHING.
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it would have been so much better with judy garland in that role in my opinon she had no intentions of doing a role that was the opposite of what she represented to the world she took the wardrode car used her experience to get herself fired she also received full pay she knew what she was doing the entire time Dorothy could never be helen Lawson
Guess you missed Judgment @ Nuremberg.