New Organic and Hobby Farm Tractor! Tilmor - Modern Allis-Chalmers G
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Tractor Time with Tim gets to experiment with a new modernized version of the Allis-Chalmers G tractor. With so many people entering the hobby farm and organic farm space, the Tilmore tractor is a new purpose built row crop tractor for small and organic growers! It is the only mid mount modern tractor with the ability to change implements within minutes, using no tools, and with one person!
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Back in the 40s my Grandpa was one of the first people in his little town to come home with a G, and people would slow down to shout out their car windows at him, "Ray, go see if you can get your horses back!" Two years later though, there were about another dozen G's in town, all a bunch of small vegetable producers like him, cultivating close to keep weeds under control on a tight budget. He owned that little tractor for about 50 years, and had nothing but good things to say about it. I can see that the G's market is starting to come around again, and it's good to see Tilmor recognizing both the need and the potential of something like the G to meet that need.
I liked especially, that the machine was not a showpiece, but something that is used daily. Beautyful engineering, definitely one of the best tool carrier tractors built nowadays. Congratulations!
I just want to say that festooning the Tilmor with 2" receivers, and providing a small crane for positioning the belly implements, is genius.
Thank you! I live in Ohio and help farm in Ohio and want one of these
Man...that tractor is cool...just found this video Tim...I bet we could put that to use on our farm! Awesome!
As soon as I saw the picture I thought "Allis Model G!" Love those old tractors.
It is awesome that youtube/google has provided a platform to share content.
Man, for the small family farm, or low production farmer that is a pretty interesting machine that would make it much more productive. Great video!!!
I remember cultivating corn so slow and hours on end, I would often wake up night dreaming I was still driving the tractor.
Hard to stay awake while cultivating!
Rick Formerfarmer been there with snow removal 16 hours in a John Deere 644 then get in my car and turn the turn signal lever trying to get it to move.
We used a rotary hoe in our corn fields, faster is better with the hoe
Mr. Rick ~
Your story reminded me of my ex...he was working a field late at night...we had had tons of rain, so once we were able to get in the fields, we had to bust butt...he nodded off. When he woke up, he found himself IN THE NEIGHBOR'S FIELD. 😨
😂😂😂
Never have I seen a tractor like that. Very interesting original model and now a new slightly remodeled version, size specific farm or garden use.
I love Allis Gs. This looks like a really well thought out piece of equipment
This is the most interesting tractor I've seen in awhile
"I've never cultivated anything."
Promptly cultivates the next row with no problem.
This is what the G - and this G-inspired Tilmor - was all about. A gallon of fuel will cultivate and weed-control an entire field, but a gallon of herbicide won't. And the weeds are evolving resistance to the usual herbicides, none of them have evolved a resistance to being ripped out at the roots.
I just love American ingenuity.
Thanks Tim for showing us all these neat tractors never seen one like this can't wait till the next one
We enjoy showing these unique tractors. Thanks for watching!
Nice little machine, have to say have never seen before hopefully they will be able to get it up and on the market soon.
Great video, thank you.
This reminds me of the Oggun. It's based off of the G as well. I like with they did with the Oggun keeping it super simple for the Cuban market. I like equipment that's made up of common parts from other things and simple.
Who would have ever thought there would be 2 tractor companies building a replica of a almost 70 year old tractor
There's more than that, you've got these guys, Oggun and Tuff Bilt as well. I bet if you dug around, you could find a few more. They were great little tractors and they've been imitated before. My uncle had one from a company called Hines that I believe was built in the late 70s or early 80s.
Really? The little Kubota engines are typically quiet, efficient and reliable.
Yea, sounds like you have given them a fair chance! Thanks for the feedback!
Tractor Time with Tim almost have 4500 hours on my skidsteer with a kubota engine no issues other than regular maintaince
John Nicodemus yup, I too am tired of fixing my kubota. Yard art now.
I'm going to install a U-pick strawberry farm....I will get myself a Tilmor.
On the other side of the pond David Brown manufacture the 2D Modell. Similar to Allison Chalmers G.
Even Volvo BM made a modell based on the T22 and T25.
They are perfect for crops rows.
History really does repeat it's self
That is a neat tractor. Does remind me of the Allis G. A good friend of mines Dad painted tractors for a living and several passed through his shop. We teenagers showing off would see who could pick up the front end the highest. Lol . Enjoyed the video.
I bet Katriel is having a big/busy summer. I know Y'all miss her.
Y'all take care and God bless.
Look like you two were having fun.👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, it was a fun day (beautiful weather too). I really enjoyed cultivating the beans. I had never driven a front mounted cultivator before.
Makes me want to be a small farmer for fun.
Interesting tractor. It was great meeting the women of ttwt at the fair.
It was nice to meet you Mark-Christy
A replacement to the old Farmalls. Wondered when a company would realize it was time to create a modern version.
The compact tractors work decently for this type of farming, except there just are not a lot of available implements. You can good tillers and disc for initial ground breaking, but then not much for cultivation. Makes organic difficult or a lot hand work.
Looks like a neat product concept.
Coy Patton That's why you do this in retirement ,so your son or grandson the machinist/fabricator can build you all the implements you need in his spare time.
Coy Patton , knowing the company they will come out with many attachments and tools.
Stephen Borntrager yes the rep/developer sounded as though that is in the works. My remarks of few attachments being available were directed toward the more traditional implements for compact tractors. Initial ground breaking is covered on many forms, but after that for plowing becomes very limited!
Thank you so very much I believe I would have never in my lifetime seen anything like this never heard of anything like this you are right you never know what you're going to see on your show cool cool cool that's the best I can say
Thanks Theodore. Appreciate you watching and thanks for the comment!
What a cool concept!
I use a International Super AV, 1952, I can put all these implements on it, not a new idea, just filling a niche that the big tractor makers gave up on years ago
Agreed, I have a 140 with planter,cultivators, fertilizer hopper etc. Thousands of cubs, "A" Super A, 100,130/40 still around and you can buy 3 of them for what you pay for this Tilmor machine. Saw a restored "G" on craigslist for 4000.00
That is neat. Thanks for showing.
Wild looking Tractor
I can see landscapers drooling.
Great video Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲💯
Tim thanks for taking us with you to learn about this new tractor even though its based on an old ideal it has some very interesting features and capabilities I don't think I would want the gas one but the Kubota diesel I'M sure it has plenty of power and torque which is really what you need in a tractor I'M curious to see what implements they are working on for it. I have a feeling we will be seeing a new piece of equipment on tractor time with tim made in Ohio. Enjoyed the video as always. Have a great day. God Bless!!!
Don't be so quick to dismiss the gasoline engine. It's all in the transmission and gearing. There were tons of older gasoline tractors that had less than 20 HP yet were capable of serious farming.
The diesel will have better torque across the entire range of RPMs.
And it will likely last longer due to being liquid cooled.
@@TractorTimewithTim And! In addition to being a fuel miser, the Kabota diesel engine will be capable of being filled with non-Road taxed fuel, whereas gasoline is not available without taxes as far as I know
Our Hmong truck farmers will love this
That is pretty cool and fun tractor to run!
i like this tractor. i think it looks really cool.
Thanks Tim - Great overview
Does it have mowing attachments . A cicle bar that could be mounted under belly would make a good hay mower for small hay fields. And a bush hog stile for pasture mowing . I have small 18 acre pasture something along that line would be great.
even a gang of reel mowers they they could sell to school districts and city parks departments.
Great looking system, be nice to have
I know someone that runs one of those basket weeders under his cub.
Christy thinking it my turn to drive and thinking I look good driving this Tractor 😇😇😊😊
What this is definitely missing is quick-adjust rear rims (brain fart on what they're actually called) and it look a little tedious to change the front axle width too.. otherwise looks good!
Excellent video. Deutz and Fendt had tool carriers but way bigger horsepower and price. This has a huge market in developing countries.
There’s a company in Alabama I think that makes a similar tractor. Looks like Christy was having fun.
The G, a great machine from a amazing company
Also, why till less when you can tilmor
Agreed! I have trouble spelling Tilmor. I always want to add an ‘e’ at the end!
Would be a good raking tractor, especially if they make a mid mount rake for it.
Very nice, Germany made the Schmotzer Kombi Record in the 50's and 60's so wide it have two steering wheels, very cool, google it
Good stuff guys!
I'm not very familiar with older farm equipment but I thought it looked like something from the past at the start of the video. Googled a "Model G" and there it was. I do like the multiple attachment points and the Kubota engine with gear a transmission.
Goofy looking, but quite effective. My dad always wanted one, but never 'got around to it' because they sell for too much money.
If i were going to go back into farming, on a small scale, i would buy a good old Ford or Massey, You can get just about any thing you need, for relatively cheap prices. The rotary hoe has been around for years, i used to use a good sized three point hitch John Deere. The trick is to go fast, and, use it just as the weeds start to emerge. The faster the better. I did a follow up with a regular row crop cultivator when the corn or beans were a bit farther along.
We have views like that down here in southern Indiana!
Wished I had one of those.
hi guys well its different. don`t know about that briggs engine. I would go diesel less problems. great video very interesting. god bless guys.
Loved this video Tim!
Thanks Joe. We really enjoyed getting to cultivate with it. I kinda wish I could have worked at it longer. I didn't get my 'fill of it' :-)
It's nice to see someone offering a somewhat basic tractor. The implement on/off loading crane was pure genius. What were those draft arms in the back? It looked like it could have been a 3PH but I didn't see a top-link connection (although it may have been covered up by something).
The draft arms in back are compatible with the draft arms in the middle. It does not have a top link.
I believe this is to save space in the center mount.
So, the attachments can be used middle or rear, but are not compatible with other tractors.
Having said that, they have a conversion kit to make their attachments 3pt hitch compatible.
This would be an animal for seed research search companies around my area
Interesting. Like you said it does what it's designed to do very well. However it won't win any beauty contests.
Yea, I think they need someone a bit more 'artistic' to join the team :-)
Larry Mortimer, their equipment since day one over 60 years ago wouldn't win beauty contests but very functional.
Very cool! We will be looking in to one for are farm in the future
There was a tractor similar to this made in the eighties called Hefty G.
I can see it filling a specialty market
Certainly was great visibility, and easy to ‘stay on the row’ while driving pretty fast.
Others like Oggun from Alabama and a few before that have copied the Model G design.
it is funny that the designs are moving closer to the farm equipment we had in the 40s and 50s. One tip make them quieter for god sake.
There was another company in Georgia, or at least I think it was, that made a very similar tractor for a few years but they couldn't find a market. It has a lift system and used a two cylinder Onan engine. There is one not to far from me, it had a manual transmission. I can't remember the name of the company right now.
Oggun?
My question I would have is weight. To get good tractive power you need weight. The rock box does not seem enough. The other issue I would have is the pinch points on the frame looks like a high torque area with multiple points that could tweak or possible crack the frame. The other issue I have is soil compaction. You don’t want to pack down your crop you just planted. The fit and finish looks like something out of the “good ole days” I think it needs to be a bit more figuring. Neat product though
n3qdz well the engine is in the back where the drive tires are at. Its set up like an old VW beetle, great traction. My mom had a VW super beetle back in the day and she said it did great in the snow. The weight box on the front is just to get a little more turning traction for say a seeder where the attachment is digging into the ground. So that makes the front end want to come up off the ground. Hope that helps. It is a pretty intriguing little tractor thou.
Love the visibility
Related to lay mor sweepers?
Nice equipment I seen the planter and cultivator what other tillage or harvesting equipment to the have? Reminds me of our 1941 farmall Cub nice all around hobby farm tractor as well. We had ours rebuilt 12 years ago. Still a nice machine. Thanks for the video and keep them coming.
The Farmall A came out in 1941 Cub's didn't come out till 1947
Time to get a tilmor😂
Neat tractor.
Road Grader looking
Interesting.
If markets dont change, more farms will be going "edible".
How do I get one in Kenya, East Africa.
I like that tractor
They should mod that into farming simulator games.. good way to get the product out and noticed
Neat machine
The problem with these are the cost . A 20k plus for a sml platform tractor does not compete with a 1025 john Deere that has a loader. Even a 1025R from john deere with no loader is way cheaper.
Then factor in what you can pull from & lacking a global 3pt attachments.
i recall sum years back at the farm show in ky there was a company that used the allis g tractor to bring back this concept not sure if they are still around or not if so this will be 2 companies working off this same thing
Give me a good old case crossmotor. Be nice to bring an updated tractor like that back out, minus, of course, the steel wheels. Good show though. Which new tractor are you eyeballing though?
As we've mentioned, NONE at present. We have too much going on to look into this any further at this point.
HAK LTC1 would be a option for someone looking for something smaller
A pretty interesting piece of equipment. I wonder if they will be available in Canada....
Awesome
Thank love the vid
Needs a reproduction Allis G Steering wheel. . . .
Do they charge bu the "Ahhhh" or the "Ummmmm" ?
You can pass judgement if you wish. Try doing his yourself sometime.
Another keep your mouth shut job!!!!!! Keep up the great videos!!!!!
Can anyone explain how this would have benefits over a subcompact tractor? It seems to me that a subcompact would do the same things, plus allow the use of a loader for loading stuff, and connect a midmount mower for mowing the lawn of your house as well, not to mention it's a lot easier to find 3-point hitch implements, whereas they're trying to invent all the implements, which throws them into the proprietary systems nonsense that I criticize John Deere for.
Yes, I believe I can explain that.
First, just to get to a quick point of agreement. There is nothing more useful for 'general purpose' tractor work than a sub-compact or compact tractor with loader.
This tractor is a specialty tractor, built specifically for row-crop cultivation. (sub)compact tractors are not good at row crop cultivation.
1) Rear mount cultivators are all that would work on a subcompact. It is much more difficult to drive a rear row crop cultivator than a mid mount. If no herbicides are used, one must cultivate VERY close to the rows, therefore it is very important to have the better steering control of a mid-mount cultivator.
2) There is very little ground clearance on subcompact tractors, and not much more on compact tractors. One needs significant ground clearance for cultivating larger row crops.
3) Visibility. Related to #1, being able to see the row right in front of you makes it MUCH easier to cultivate. If the cultivator gets 'plugged up', etc, it can quickly damage or destroy a row. So, you need to keep a close eye on the cultivator. With a rear-mount, this leaves quite the sore neck.
i would NEVER make the argument that this tractor is a 'do-it-all' tractor for all types of work around the farm. However, the specialized design is GREAT for row crops.
Does that help? I know it does not address all of your questions, but hopefully this is enough to help you see that this tractor IS useful for the problem it is designed to solve.
That does help, thank you, it's definitely a specialized tool for a specific job. I still don't like the idea of being tied to one company for tools, but that is what it is.
I hear you on that.
Ground clearance, without herbicides as plants grow you have to keep cultivating. I remember cultivating potatoes six or seven times. In wet areas the rows have to be higher so ground clearance becomes more important.
Would heLp if you had a much better muffler before you go deaf.
I like this idea but it's a niche market. Even Allis Chalmers back in the day was disappointed with how poorly the "G" sold. Now if some one would build a modern IH 140 or Cub I'd buy or in a heartbeat.
Tim have you ever seen an Oggun tractor. Built in Alabama sort of the same concept.
In video, yes. In person, no.
Oh yes that’s the one I thought this was, just couldn’t remember the name. Also I thought it was Georgia, Alabama it is.
Does it come with a grader blade cool unit thanks for sharing.
A mid mount grader blade would be nice for fine grading wouldn’t it?? However, I don’t think this unit is heavy enough in front to use an angle blade.
It does have a "rock box" up front. :-)
EOSJOE I was thinking it’s for adding counter weights since the engine is in the rear.
It's just a larger version of the 1950s Allis Chalmers Model G
...uh, I think we mentioned that a few times. ...like in the TITLE!
how does it compare with david brown 2d or the allis g
The basket weeder is particularly interesting. Have they prototyped one with an adjustable width or is it an add on to gain more width?
Perhaps the folks at Tilmor will see your question and reply.
You can order what you want for your needs custom. Ships to you and you put together
It's a good design, but it's not an all-purpose design. A quality two-wheel tractor with cultivation tools does a better job on those row-veggies. A loader-tractor with a 3-point hitch will cover it's tracks and work better for primary tillage, anything you need a loader for, and have much wider selection of implements.
biggest problem about rear cultivators is tracking.. on perfectly flat land it's one thing, any crabwalking from a sidehill gets really bad behind the tractor, and correcting to one side will pull your cultivators to the opposite side, into the row.
It's not intended to be an all purpose tractor at all, it's a very specific tractor.
looks like a great tractor. and do you know what attachments will be available for it.
Look at tilmor.com
David Brown in the UK bought out and sold many hundreds of tractors like this called the D2D, in the 1950's in the UK, some are probably still in use today. This looks like a direct copy some 70 years later. New technology, you're having a laugh!!!!
looks like a small road grader, does it come with a blade for light road grading
I’m not sure.
No pto with with 3 pt hitch? Still second tractor , thanks
I agree with you. This rig is a special purpose tractor. Specifically intended for row crop usage. If it were me, I would still want another tractor for primary tillage and loader work. Having said that, no NORMAL tractor will handle this row crop cultivation as well as this thing.