I graduated The Colorado School of Trades for Gunsmithing back in 1984. This video is the best example of what the average shooter/ hunter needs to know in order to properly maintain his/her barrel. Great video!
I love the way you explain everything in detail. Extremely informative content. Keep it up! You're the only gun channel that I watch all the way through without skipping.
I have come full circle with my rifle cleaning regimen. As a kid I would do a quick clean w brush and patch. As I got older and more interested in accuracy, I obsessed with meticulously cleaning after every shooting session. Now I’m back to quick / simple clean......I think my rifles shoot mostly the same no matter what I do. Critical thing is to keep them from rusting
NEWS FLASH!!! Old Dog learns new tricks!! Ron, absolutely the best cleaning video I’ve ever seen! I learned a ton! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
I’m glad he said it’s somewhat normal to have a barrel get fussy after 20 or so rounds. My rugers can shoot a ton and the groupings won’t spread too much but my Bergara ridge carbon gets fussy after about 20 rounds.
Between my dad and my rifle team coaches in highschool, I've been trained to clean my guns every time they've been taken to the range or in the field. I'm sure the guns don't need as much cleaning but it's just the way I was brought up. I've found most of the products work fairly well but I'm a Hoppes fan. I swapped to bore snakes a few decades back and have never missed assembling cleaning rods and all the various attachments... And Ron, to your comments about your friend who's never cleaned his 7RM... One of my friends the same way with his '06! Funny thing is that the deer that these two guys take down never know if their barrels were clean or not.
“Hey before you shoot me next time you think you could give that thing a cleaning?” Hahaha. I’ve never shot an animal who had requests when I got to him. These days you’d think they’d ask you to use a different cartridge next time haha
@@halbogatz3780 So a lot of the talk about “clean after every use” is mostly leftover from those old days? Is there at least some truth to it still viable today?
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Ron. I’ve been hunting and shooting for over 30 years, and I always learn some really good information from you. Thank you.
Cleaning long and short guns after every day of use, with the Bundeswehr cleaning kit for the G3, G36 and P8... ;) ...and only using 10W40 motor oil for lubrication. Robla Solo bore cleaner to remove copper fouling maybe once a year on the guns I shoot more frequently. Works like a charm, even after some 1.000s of rounds.
It’s still accurate even with the fouling in there for about 1000 rounds? I just want to confirm I understand you right lol. I’m a new shooter and trying to figure out the sweet spot for cleaning intervals
Between my Grandpa and the military, I have ingrained in me to clean every time I shoot. Agree with the accuracy issue, but I also don't want corrosives sitting in my barrel.
Great video. I clean my rifles a number of ways. There seems to be no one size fits all. I do use jags a lot when using a rod. I sometimes use the Otis system with a cable only pulling the brush or patch out the barrel. The more I have shot the less I have cleaned because of videos similar to yours. Some target shooters that shoot competition don't clean until a hundred to two hundred rounds fired. I usually check my zero before hunting season and leave my rifle dirty until the season is done. Thanks for your demonstration of how you clean your guns.
Good day sir, roughly how many rounds do you shoot in a whole season? Thanks, I’m just trying to figure out what most shooter’s think the sweet spot is. I tend to shoot a box or two every few weeks
I like the windex thing.........I am a tradesman , I clean my tools after each job.........I clean my firearms after each range session or after each hunt! ( I live close to the sea) I have NEVER seen a rifle chamber or barrel crown damaged by cleaning, most cleaning rods have brass on the front of the cleaning rod, you will not damage the chamber or barrel with brass !!!
Dang ! For 50 years I’ve been using a bronze brush with Hoppes 9 bore cleaner and gun oil . Never used copper solvent and my rifles are all as good as they were when they were brand new . I had no idea I was doing it wrong for a half century . A bore scope ?
Been watching all (deer)hunting season. Was using a custom Remington 700 that was my dads and harvested 2 deer with it, amazing upgrade from 30-06. Christmas came and that same rifle was my gift, a brand new one wouldn’t have been comparable. Now that it’s my responsibility I’m learning how to properly clean a rifle. Thank you for nothing but the facts much appreciated.
Chambers, bolt carriers & bolts are the most important aeras to clean, have the biggest effect on accuracy & proper operation of the firearm, special in semi autos.
I know this video is a year old, but what a great video. 👍👍 And i am a firm believer in leaving in some of that copper fouling. It really makes a difference in my favorite hunting rifle.
Good day sir, even with leaving a little bit of fouling in the barrel how many rounds do you put through your rifle before you clean the barrel and roughly how long does it take to put those rounds down range? Some guys shoot 100 rounds a week, some guys more some guys less. I’m just trying to figure out if shooting a box or two of ammo every other week warrants a good cleaning of the rifle barrel. Thanks
Love your vids .. your about the only 1 on UA-cam that knows what you're talking about.. I lightly clean mine rifles even if I only shoot 1 rd. Most time I still only use a oil patch..
It's my belief that it is not the aggressive movements of the brass brush with chemicals that removes the copper residue from the lands but the bristles of the brush that gets the carbon solvent cleaner into the tight corners of the groves. Then it is time that allows the chemicals to break down the carbon that is removed by a patch. Shotgun cotton bore swabs work good to clean chambers then clean them with isopropyl and dry for another use. My demist is very generous with the cotton dams for recessed lugs.
Most times after a range session I will just pull a bore snake down the barrel with a little CLP on the end but if I have to get the fouling out I use mineral spirits for cleaning the fouling, works great, cheap and being a light oil no further oils are necessary. As for the copper I like a burnishing of copper on the lands but after cleaning the fouling when I bore scope the barrel and believe it needs to come out I use Patch Out and leave it at that. I have used JB and it will take the copper out to bare metal but I only do that every 1000 rounds or so.
Remington bore cleaner, in a plastic bottle with something in it that rattles around, is like the J B stuff. It really gets with it on the scrubbing. I like Mili-Tech gun oil. It’s supposed to get into the pores with the neat of shooting. Yeah right, but seriously it does to seem to work very well for me. Good video!!!! Thank you Ron.
I agree with Gary. The bore snake is good for packing with you in the field in the event of stuffing the muzzle in the mud or if you accidentally go for a swim but that’s about it. The snake holds onto debris where the patches get thrown out with the debris. 😉
Dont forget that heat expands so your copper bullet with the heat will expend some time larger then the diameter of the barrel. Thats why its such a tigth fit and leaves copper residues
With my 223 varmint rifles that shoot sub 1/2 moa I don't clean until accuracy starts to go south. Sometimes that may be after several hundreds of rounds. If I use a brush it is a nylon brush that I drip solvent onto and I never drag the brush backwards through the barrel. Only push it from chamber to muzzle and remove the brush. Then clean patches until they are fairly clean.
The jags that you can wrap the patch around work much better than the jags with a slot that you push the patch through because there is more contact area for the patch.
I like you clean my rifles/shotguns/muzzleloaders often, typically for me it’s after every use!!! Have you tried shooter lube? If not you might want to give it a shot. I got it off Facebook and it turned out to be a REALLY great product for getting powder be it burnt or unburnt powder to just fall off!!! It isn’t harsh on the metal but just devastates the powder build up and doesn’t really have an odor. A little costly for the amount you get but cuts cleaning time down considerably for me!!! As always thanks for your time and knowledge!!!
I dry brush mine every time I shoot. Then I use a mop with just a touch of oil. My rifles are always accurate and never fail. I do my handguns the same way. They never fail either.
Here in NZ we have old milsurp sportorised 303 rifles they are getting thin on the ground now but that's how many of my generation started out. I have been amazed how well a seriously fugly bore in that caliber can shoot. Maybe it's a caliber specific phenom. No idea. Be interested to hear others thoughts.
I was taught to go from muzzle to breach. That way your not pushing the dirtiest stuff down the length of the barrel. I also use a hardwood dowel to push the patches. I then use a formed brass brush with a patch wrapped around it for the chamber. Then a spray of LPS.
I have to clean weapons constantly almost. It's not rocket science. Breaking in a new barrel to me is a very time consuming process. I have done this since 1972 with every new rifle I have a acquired. I use every weapon I own many times each year so they are more or less cleaned very well at minimum several times a year. I'm maybe a little OCD (if that's possible?) about the condition of my firearms. All need to be at optimum ready. Scopes have to on zero ( not close but zero). Great video again!!!!
My theory is that the carbon /powered fouling add lubrication to the squeaky clean barrel and the first few shots are off from the normal grouping because of the lack of that lubrication in a squeaky clean barrel. ??? And I am happy to know my cleaning method is spot on to your method. Great video
As a young boy I was taught and 30 years in the Army reinforced it, whenever you shoot a weapon you clean it before it goes in the safe. That is all weapons .22 to 12 ga. Additionally, I take out all of my weapons from the safes and inspect them and wipe them down every 6 months.
Ron your video is great although I have learned that you never reverse a brush in the bore. In your case you are using a nylon brush which is obviously softer than a brass one. Just a thought.
Excellent point, Duane. I should have said something about reversing a bronze brush. Nylon are fine. Worse bronze brush jam I ever had required pounding it out with a steel rod. Brush collapsed, expanded full bore in a squashed slug. Grim business.
It ‘s not ACTUALLY “cleaning” the bore really, and I do use them. But it’s not getting the copper and true ‘fouling’ out of the rifling in the bore..only a temporary measure.
I clean as little as possible and as often as necessary. I use the same method as you for determining when to clean. But i ususlly have intervals of several hundred. Tibisaurus rex did a series that i watched when i was green and used his method to great success ever since. Cheers.
Ron, your experience is overwhelming! Borescope are a MUST and you can get one from Amazon for $50 bucks. Good coated cleaning rod and bore guide are essential. I only clean plinking rifles when accuracy declines but I clean my accurate long range rifles after every use (fowling is another variable you want to eliminate). I clean Hunting rifles clean often so fowling doesn’t affect my cold bore shot. Let your solvents work and refrain from mechanical cleaning. Tip your barrel downward to the solvents run down the barrel and not back into your action. And.. You’ll learn more from your borescope in one week than I leaned looking down the barrel in 6 decades..
You're absolutely right about that borescope! BTW, with most rifles, or at least many, fouling doesn't change cold bore POI. That's more a product of a hot barrel expanding, possibly twisting slightly due to steel inconsistencies. That's what we try to negate with heavy barrels or cryo treatment. Most hunters seem to prefer a slightly fouled barrel for POI consistency throughout the hunt.
Very lagistitical man. Loved the video man. Loved the old school lessons. My parents where old schooled. N I got my old man's rifle. Your videos are gonna help me bring it back to looking brand new.
I Use A White Piece Of Paper Or A Clean Patch In The Action End To See What Is In The Barrel. Just Place A Small Piece Of Anything White In There And Use Sunlight Or A Flashlight Shining On It , While Looking Down The Exit End Of The Rifle. Works On Any Rifle , Especially An Semi Auto That I Don't Want To Break Down . Just A Tip.
I don't buy that any brushes, jags, or the rod can scratch a steel barrel. There's a table of hardness called the brinell scale and anything that's one level of hardness up from another, softer, material the softer cannot scratch the harder material. No cleaning tools I know of should be able to scratch a harder than nails rifle barrel. I think Ron expressed the same notion in a diplomatic way. Benchrest shooters are eccentric and superstitious. I wouldn't follow their advice for the most part.
The notion that any softer metal cannot scratch a harder metal is questionable. Of course the damage will be less on the harder side. But you can cut your prison bars with your spoon if you work at it long enough and if you can get a new spoon every four months. The people who can tell you about it are still running..
I clean my guns every time I shoot them, except for hunting season, I sight my gun in and leave it that way until after hunting season then I clean it.
I always hit all my guns with a patch with Hoppe’s after shooting, I’ve never used a brush in the barrels because I’m always afraid of the abrasiveness. Am I over cleaning? I don’t shoot ARs, levers, bolts, and blocks are my rifle loves.
Sorry to say but NO! Ballistol will resinify over time. You dont want this in your barrel nor in the bolt or System at all (safety, trigger, etc) Ballistol is good for wood or your dogs paw to cure infections. On your gun you should use oil intended for gun care! Which Ballistol is not...it was made long time ago as an all purpos kind of miracle drug for soldiers to take care of everything in the field.
@@TriggerPullTV Of course i know m&s after work 👍🏻 Im sure they know pretty good what they are doing...but this does not mean they are bulletproof. Dont get me wrong. I have not said that using Ballistol is like using muriatic Acid on your guns. But using Ballistol can go wrong... I have seen bores which was kind of clogged with glue like shit because of the owners spray Ballistol down the muzzel for storing. ...yes they havent been shot for a longer time. I habe seen bolt springs from „daily used guns“ that was clogged the same manner because to much Ballistol went into the bolt...same with trigger mechanism. This can cost you some ms of time for that firing Pin so it will take longer to hit the primer. Next is, that all that resin is no longer a rust protection...below all that glue it will rust! So if you are cleaning your gun using Ballistol it is not a sinn...but it can cause damage to material or shooting results. If you take your bolt apart for cleaning of course it is hard for that resin to build up. This are just my 5 cents of Knowledge 🤷♂️... you can use Ballistol. BUT there is a lot more stuff which is better for your gun. All the best
Same, use Ballistol for all my gear and it protects and lubes pretty good. Especially since I'm a lead bullet shooter which is nice. Especially in lever guns for long term storage.
I only get to shoot about 1/4 as much as I want to. But I usually clean based on how much ammo I shoot through it. If I look down the barrel and see a small amount of build up, I snake the barrel. But if I look inside and see heavy buildup I break out the full cleaning kit and get it clean.
Great option and quick. I'm not sure if dragging one over the crown would eventually damage it, but I doubt it. Would take a LOT of friction of that soft material to erode barrel steel.
@@chevyon37s They are washable, no need to drag dirty rope through. The amount of material on a bore brush is equivalent to 50 patches in one pull. They are great for cleaning that doesn't really require copper removal.
After I break a new barrel and am shooting groups I will shoot groups till I see it open up then I know how many rounds I can run between accuracy strings then I will load for that many. If it's small bore 17 cal Cf I shoot 20 then clean
Hoppe’s #9 has the same smell as the most soft, subtle, sexy romantic women’s cologne. It’s an aphrodisiac to a lot of us. Come on, just admit it🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪!!!!!!!!!
I clean my hunting rifles once a year after season ends. Cleaning chemicals smell strong and spook game plus some rifles shoot different when clean. I shoot less than 20 rounds a year typically
I had a Ruger M77 25.06 with a bull barrel that my best friend traded a old compound bow for because the guy who had the rifle said it was junk and wouldn't group. My buddy was never able to do anything with the rifle due to illness so I took it and the first thing I did was clean the bore. It was so dirty I could barely get the cleaning rod and bore brush down the barrel. I cleaned it for over two hours to get all of the powder and copper fouling out. Ounce clean it shot 5/8" 3 shot group's at 100 yards. No I didn't shoot it before I cleaned it because it was obvious that the non grouping issue was because it was so built up with fouling.
I have a brand new Remington 870 field master I have only shot 7 target loads through it and I went to clean it and the patches keep on coming out a brown color and I let the break free clp set for about 25 minutes and I repeated this for 3 times and they are still coming out brown I used the copper brush in between the patches and it doesent help but I looked inside the barrel with a bore light and it looks completely clean ?
I enjoyed the video; however, try to match the sound level of the intro and exit music with the sound level of the talking. When the music comes in, it wakes up everyone in the house.
Very well done. I've cleaned friends rifles for them i wondered how the firearm even functioned. They pull it out of the closet covered in rust, makes me sick.
I went to clean my rifle barrel I used a wet patch then I let it set then I used the brush after I brush it I use the patch then I repeat I did this like 5 times and the patches just won’t come out clean any suggestions
what does it mean when I don't have copper showing up after 60 rounds of 308 from my newly purchased Mossberg Patriot? My new Tikka, my older Patriot, my Sig SHR970, my 700's provide some green on the white cloth after only 20 plus rounds when I also soak the bore with hoppes 9 and let it sit muzzle down for copper removal. Bore out of spec by .0001 inches? Crazy circumstances and results. Thanks
I graduated The Colorado School of Trades for Gunsmithing back in 1984. This video is the best example of what the average shooter/ hunter needs to know in order to properly maintain his/her barrel. Great video!
Appreciate that vote of confidence.
I love the way you explain everything in detail. Extremely informative content. Keep it up! You're the only gun channel that I watch all the way through without skipping.
Many thanks Peter. Glad you're enjoying the content.
Same here! His calm demeanor and thorough explanations on the subject matter have me at full spec!
I have come full circle with my rifle cleaning regimen. As a kid I would do a quick clean w brush and patch. As I got older and more interested in accuracy, I obsessed with meticulously cleaning after every shooting session. Now I’m back to quick / simple clean......I think my rifles shoot mostly the same no matter what I do. Critical thing is to keep them from rusting
NEWS FLASH!!! Old Dog learns new tricks!! Ron, absolutely the best cleaning video I’ve ever seen! I learned a ton! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
From Sweden. Ron. Thank You for no nonsense good tips and insight!
Excellent video, Ron. I clean before I store the gun. This protects the barrel from rust.
I clean when I see accuracy drops, or it starts having issues.
Also I use grease for storage. It stays and protects better here in Florida.
I’m glad he said it’s somewhat normal to have a barrel get fussy after 20 or so rounds. My rugers can shoot a ton and the groupings won’t spread too much but my Bergara ridge carbon gets fussy after about 20 rounds.
I was always taught “ you shoot it ,you clean it”, but I used to shoot a lot of black powder years ago.
..TOTALLY agree. If I HAVE time, I clean it almost immediately after hunting/shooting. Or soon after as I can..
Ron how about a video on how to tune a load for a new gun.
Between my dad and my rifle team coaches in highschool, I've been trained to clean my guns every time they've been taken to the range or in the field. I'm sure the guns don't need as much cleaning but it's just the way I was brought up.
I've found most of the products work fairly well but I'm a Hoppes fan. I swapped to bore snakes a few decades back and have never missed assembling cleaning rods and all the various attachments...
And Ron, to your comments about your friend who's never cleaned his 7RM... One of my friends the same way with his '06! Funny thing is that the deer that these two guys take down never know if their barrels were clean or not.
“Hey before you shoot me next time you think you could give that thing a cleaning?” Hahaha. I’ve never shot an animal who had requests when I got to him. These days you’d think they’d ask you to use a different cartridge next time haha
@@BadoreksDailys Exactly, LOL!
@@paulsimmons5726 A lot of that constant cleaning came from the days when there were corrosive primers and gunpowder.
@@halbogatz3780 So a lot of the talk about “clean after every use” is mostly leftover from those old days? Is there at least some truth to it still viable today?
@@User_Brandonthe truth is in your rifle and the shooting.If the accuracy is there don’t mess with it unless the weather becomes a factor.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Ron. I’ve been hunting and shooting for over 30 years, and I always learn some really good information from you. Thank you.
I appreciate you present the other schools of thought on the subject not just your own opinion.
One time, I copper cleaned my 223, and it changed the poi of impact by about 4 inches at 100 yds. That's big!
I have a m1 grand that is fussy that way, once it built back up accuracy improved
Cleaning long and short guns after every day of use, with the Bundeswehr cleaning kit for the G3, G36 and P8... ;) ...and only using 10W40 motor oil for lubrication. Robla Solo bore cleaner to remove copper fouling maybe once a year on the guns I shoot more frequently. Works like a charm, even after some 1.000s of rounds.
It’s still accurate even with the fouling in there for about 1000 rounds? I just want to confirm I understand you right lol. I’m a new shooter and trying to figure out the sweet spot for cleaning intervals
@@User_Brandon yep, no noticable detoriation yet :)
Between my Grandpa and the military, I have ingrained in me to clean every time I shoot. Agree with the accuracy issue, but I also don't want corrosives sitting in my barrel.
Great video, thanks Ron!
Excellent video , one of the best rifle cleaning video's I've ever watched.
@Sven3xs maybe I do , what's wrong with that ???
Great video. I clean my rifles a number of ways. There seems to be no one size fits all. I do use jags a lot when using a rod. I sometimes use the Otis system with a cable only pulling the brush or patch out the barrel. The more I have shot the less I have cleaned because of videos similar to yours. Some target shooters that shoot competition don't clean until a hundred to two hundred rounds fired. I usually check my zero before hunting season and leave my rifle dirty until the season is done. Thanks for your demonstration of how you clean your guns.
Good day sir, roughly how many rounds do you shoot in a whole season? Thanks, I’m just trying to figure out what most shooter’s think the sweet spot is. I tend to shoot a box or two every few weeks
You were great in Major Dad. Thanks for the videos.
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I like the windex thing.........I am a tradesman , I clean my tools after each job.........I clean my firearms after each range session or after each hunt! ( I live close to the sea)
I have NEVER seen a rifle chamber or barrel crown damaged by cleaning, most cleaning rods have brass on the front of the cleaning rod, you will not damage the chamber or barrel with brass !!!
Dang ! For 50 years I’ve been using a bronze brush with Hoppes 9 bore cleaner and gun oil . Never used copper solvent and my rifles are all as good as they were when they were brand new . I had no idea I was doing it wrong for a half century . A bore scope ?
Been watching all (deer)hunting season. Was using a custom Remington 700 that was my dads and harvested 2 deer with it, amazing upgrade from 30-06. Christmas came and that same rifle was my gift, a brand new one wouldn’t have been comparable. Now that it’s my responsibility I’m learning how to properly clean a rifle. Thank you for nothing but the facts much appreciated.
Chambers, bolt carriers & bolts are the most important aeras to clean, have the biggest effect on accuracy & proper operation of the firearm, special in semi autos.
Hi Ron I just wanted to say Thank you for sharing your experience and taking the time to make this video and your other
Much Respect Bill W.
I know this video is a year old, but what a great video. 👍👍 And i am a firm believer in leaving in some of that copper fouling. It really makes a difference in my favorite hunting rifle.
Good day sir, even with leaving a little bit of fouling in the barrel how many rounds do you put through your rifle before you clean the barrel and roughly how long does it take to put those rounds down range? Some guys shoot 100 rounds a week, some guys more some guys less. I’m just trying to figure out if shooting a box or two of ammo every other week warrants a good cleaning of the rifle barrel. Thanks
Absolutely love you videos Mr. Ron, Thanks for all you do!
Love your vids .. your about the only 1 on UA-cam that knows what you're talking about.. I lightly clean mine rifles even if I only shoot 1 rd. Most time I still only use a oil patch..
Thank you Mr. Spomer for the Info: Very educational information .......
It's my belief that it is not the aggressive movements of the brass brush with chemicals that removes the copper residue from the lands but the bristles of the brush that gets the carbon solvent cleaner into the tight corners of the groves. Then it is time that allows the chemicals to break down the carbon that is removed by a patch. Shotgun cotton bore swabs work good to clean chambers then clean them with isopropyl and dry for another use. My demist is very generous with the cotton dams for recessed lugs.
Most times after a range session I will just pull a bore snake down the barrel with a little CLP on the end but if I have to get the fouling out I use mineral spirits for cleaning the fouling, works great, cheap and being a light oil no further oils are necessary. As for the copper I like a burnishing of copper on the lands but after cleaning the fouling when I bore scope the barrel and believe it needs to come out I use Patch Out and leave it at that. I have used JB and it will take the copper out to bare metal but I only do that every 1000 rounds or so.
This guy is great. Love his videos. All we ever used in the military was good old clp.
and alot of time!!
Remington bore cleaner, in a plastic bottle with something in it that rattles around, is like the J B stuff. It really gets with it on the scrubbing. I like Mili-Tech gun oil. It’s supposed to get into the pores with the neat of shooting. Yeah right, but seriously it does to seem to work very well for me. Good video!!!! Thank you Ron.
6:00 I had a yugo SKS years ago that had a bore that looked like a sewer pipe. It shot fine!
The bore snake is the greatest invention ever for cleaning the barrel.
Nope
I agree with Gary. The bore snake is good for packing with you in the field in the event of stuffing the muzzle in the mud or if you accidentally go for a swim but that’s about it. The snake holds onto debris where the patches get thrown out with the debris. 😉
Complete garbage
Good video Ron. I’ll go 20-30 shots before cleaning. I like the idea of a bore scope
Dont forget that heat expands so your copper bullet with the heat will expend some time larger then the diameter of the barrel. Thats why its such a tigth fit and leaves copper residues
A number of great methods! Thanks Ron😀✌️
I personally recommend possum hollow bore guides custom for individual chambers/calibers.
Great job.
Ron, try some CLR for removing carbon, it works great.
Great job Ron! Thank you 😊
With my 223 varmint rifles that shoot sub 1/2 moa I don't clean until accuracy starts to go south. Sometimes that may be after several hundreds of rounds. If I use a brush it is a nylon brush that I drip solvent onto and I never drag the brush backwards through the barrel. Only push it from chamber to muzzle and remove the brush. Then clean patches until they are fairly clean.
Seems like a sensible system.
The jags that you can wrap the patch around work much better than the jags with a slot that you push the patch through because there is more contact area for the patch.
I like you clean my rifles/shotguns/muzzleloaders often, typically for me it’s after every use!!! Have you tried shooter lube? If not you might want to give it a shot. I got it off Facebook and it turned out to be a REALLY great product for getting powder be it burnt or unburnt powder to just fall off!!! It isn’t harsh on the metal but just devastates the powder build up and doesn’t really have an odor. A little costly for the amount you get but cuts cleaning time down considerably for me!!! As always thanks for your time and knowledge!!!
Outstanding and very precise. I really enjoy your videos.
Good video! I know guys that never clean their barrels. All they do is put a little oil on the exterior parts.
I dry brush mine every time I shoot. Then I use a mop with just a touch of oil. My rifles are always accurate and never fail. I do my handguns the same way. They never fail either.
That's a nice looking Sauer
Watched videos from John Krieger and George Garner who both said never drag your brush back through the barrel.
Maybe it's from the GI training but CLP or Break Free has never let me down.
That's what I use.
Here in NZ we have old milsurp sportorised 303 rifles they are getting thin on the ground now but that's how many of my generation started out. I have been amazed how well a seriously fugly bore in that caliber can shoot. Maybe it's a caliber specific phenom. No idea. Be interested to hear others thoughts.
Have you used a bore scope on these clp cleaned barrels? Not saying it doesn’t work, but until you view it correctly, you’ll never know.
@@johnwilliams1091 Never bore scoped a rifle, I’m sure it doesn’t work miracles however, it does a good job.
I was taught to go from muzzle to breach. That way your not pushing the dirtiest stuff down the length of the barrel. I also use a hardwood dowel to push the patches. I then use a formed brass brush with a patch wrapped around it for the chamber. Then a spray of LPS.
Thats a good tip to use dowels as a option than a cleaning rod and jag
I have to clean weapons constantly almost. It's not rocket science. Breaking in a new barrel to me is a very time consuming process. I have done this since 1972 with every new rifle I have a acquired. I use every weapon I own many times each year so they are more or less cleaned very well at minimum several times a year. I'm maybe a little OCD (if that's possible?) about the condition of my firearms. All need to be at optimum ready. Scopes have to on zero ( not close but zero). Great video again!!!!
Thank you for the video sir. Always helpful to refresh the proper way to do things!
My theory is that the carbon /powered fouling add lubrication to the squeaky clean barrel and the first few shots are off from the normal grouping because of the lack of that lubrication in a squeaky clean barrel. ??? And I am happy to know my cleaning method is spot on to your method. Great video
Thanks!
As a young boy I was taught and 30 years in the Army reinforced it, whenever you shoot a weapon you clean it before it goes in the safe. That is all weapons .22 to 12 ga. Additionally, I take out all of my weapons from the safes and inspect them and wipe them down every 6 months.
Ron your video is great although I have learned that you never reverse a brush in the bore. In your case you are using a nylon brush which is obviously softer than a brass one. Just a thought.
Excellent point, Duane. I should have said something about reversing a bronze brush. Nylon are fine. Worse bronze brush jam I ever had required pounding it out with a steel rod. Brush collapsed, expanded full bore in a squashed slug. Grim business.
And what about the bore snake? The best simple option I think.
It ‘s not ACTUALLY “cleaning” the bore really, and I do use them. But it’s not getting the copper and true ‘fouling’ out of the rifling in the bore..only a temporary measure.
@@m118lr Why? This has got also brass brush. I think that is enough for a rifle after shooting, and once a year oil and stick, big cleaning.
Thank you- I’m going to take that in.
I clean as little as possible and as often as necessary.
I use the same method as you for determining when to clean.
But i ususlly have intervals of several hundred.
Tibisaurus rex did a series that i watched when i was green and used his method to great success ever since.
Cheers.
Very informative video. Glad you mentioned JB compound. Love that stuff
Me too!
Ron, your experience is overwhelming! Borescope are a MUST and you can get one from Amazon for $50 bucks. Good coated cleaning rod and bore guide are essential. I only clean plinking rifles when accuracy declines but I clean my accurate long range rifles after every use (fowling is another variable you want to eliminate). I clean Hunting rifles clean often so fowling doesn’t affect my cold bore shot. Let your solvents work and refrain from mechanical cleaning. Tip your barrel downward to the solvents run down the barrel and not back into your action. And.. You’ll learn more from your borescope in one week than I leaned looking down the barrel in 6 decades..
You're absolutely right about that borescope! BTW, with most rifles, or at least many, fouling doesn't change cold bore POI. That's more a product of a hot barrel expanding, possibly twisting slightly due to steel inconsistencies. That's what we try to negate with heavy barrels or cryo treatment. Most hunters seem to prefer a slightly fouled barrel for POI consistency throughout the hunt.
Great video Ron. Looking forward to the next one.
Very lagistitical man. Loved the video man. Loved the old school lessons. My parents where old schooled. N I got my old man's rifle. Your videos are gonna help me bring it back to looking brand new.
Good one.
Stinky?? I love the smell of Hoppe's No. 9 in the morning.
When it comes to cleaning smokeless fouling my opinion has always been less is more... until it needs it. BP, I clean fairly quickly.
I Use A White Piece Of Paper Or A Clean Patch In The Action End To See What Is In The Barrel. Just Place A Small Piece Of Anything White In There And Use Sunlight Or A Flashlight Shining On It , While Looking Down The Exit End Of The Rifle. Works On Any Rifle , Especially An Semi Auto That I Don't Want To Break Down . Just A Tip.
Great information thanks Ron i like this show thanks Ron
I have seen barrels' that have so much lead build up that a broad side of a barn is a challenge to hit.
Great video and presentation! Thanks for posting.
I don't buy that any brushes, jags, or the rod can scratch a steel barrel. There's a table of hardness called the brinell scale and anything that's one level of hardness up from another, softer, material the softer cannot scratch the harder material. No cleaning tools I know of should be able to scratch a harder than nails rifle barrel. I think Ron expressed the same notion in a diplomatic way. Benchrest shooters are eccentric and superstitious. I wouldn't follow their advice for the most part.
Plus most rods are carbon or brass. Softer materials than the bore.
The notion that any softer metal cannot scratch a harder metal is questionable. Of course the damage will be less on the harder side. But you can cut your prison bars with your spoon if you work at it long enough and if you can get a new spoon every four months. The people who can tell you about it are still running..
And you've never heard of water erosion on rocks ?
@@PileofBrass yea soft or sedimentary rock sure but not granite.
@@jeanmorin3247 no you are so wrong, they are still trying to cut through the bars
I clean my guns every time I shoot them, except for hunting season, I sight my gun in and leave it that way until after hunting season then I clean it.
I always hit all my guns with a patch with Hoppe’s after shooting, I’ve never used a brush in the barrels because I’m always afraid of the abrasiveness.
Am I over cleaning? I don’t shoot ARs, levers, bolts, and blocks are my rifle loves.
Nice video Ron. I use Ballistol inside and out. Great for cleaning the bore and keeps the metal work tip top! Cheap and cheerful.
Sorry to say but NO!
Ballistol will resinify over time. You dont want this in your barrel nor in the bolt or System at all (safety, trigger, etc)
Ballistol is good for wood or your dogs paw to cure infections.
On your gun you should use oil intended for gun care! Which Ballistol is not...it was made long time ago as an all purpos kind of miracle drug for soldiers to take care of everything in the field.
@@theend___. I have never had that problem and it appears neither do MarkandSam AfterWork. Check them out on UA-cam
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Of course i know m&s after work 👍🏻
Im sure they know pretty good what they are doing...but this does not mean they are bulletproof.
Dont get me wrong. I have not said that using Ballistol is like using muriatic Acid on your guns.
But using Ballistol can go wrong...
I have seen bores which was kind of clogged with glue like shit because of the owners spray Ballistol down the muzzel for storing. ...yes they havent been shot for a longer time.
I habe seen bolt springs from „daily used guns“ that was clogged the same manner because to much Ballistol went into the bolt...same with trigger mechanism.
This can cost you some ms of time for that firing Pin so it will take longer to hit the primer.
Next is, that all that resin is no longer a rust protection...below all that glue it will rust!
So if you are cleaning your gun using Ballistol it is not a sinn...but it can cause damage to material or shooting results.
If you take your bolt apart for cleaning of course it is hard for that resin to build up.
This are just my 5 cents of Knowledge 🤷♂️... you can use Ballistol. BUT there is a lot more stuff which is better for your gun.
All the best
Same, use Ballistol for all my gear and it protects and lubes pretty good. Especially since I'm a lead bullet shooter which is nice. Especially in lever guns for long term storage.
I only get to shoot about 1/4 as much as I want to. But I usually clean based on how much ammo I shoot through it. If I look down the barrel and see a small amount of build up, I snake the barrel. But if I look inside and see heavy buildup I break out the full cleaning kit and get it clean.
Thankyou 👍
how do you feel about using a boresnake
Great option and quick. I'm not sure if dragging one over the crown would eventually damage it, but I doubt it. Would take a LOT of friction of that soft material to erode barrel steel.
Bore snakes are best used for cleaning trash cans. Why would you keep dragging a dirty rope back through your bore?
@@chevyon37s They are washable, no need to drag dirty rope through. The amount of material on a bore brush is equivalent to 50 patches in one pull. They are great for cleaning that doesn't really require copper removal.
Great video: if you place the mic closer to your mouth you get better sound. I noticed when you went down the barrel with the scope.
My ar-15 has over a thousand rounds thru it and it's still just as accurate as it was new and I have never cleaned the barrel.
Isopropyl alcohol is known to have water in it. Working in the aerospace industry I had to deal with this issue frequently. Just an FYI.
Good info! Thank you.
After I break a new barrel and am shooting groups I will shoot groups till I see it open up then I know how many rounds I can run between accuracy strings then I will load for that many. If it's small bore 17 cal Cf I shoot 20 then clean
They make a Solvent called Hoppe's, 9 I been using that with Hoppe's Gun Oil for 50 years....You should ventilate your work area first...
yeah, its pretty great
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@@tlloyd9325 i like balistol
Will just taking the powder out make you need fouling shots or just when you take all the copper out?
I clean my hunting rifles once a year after season ends. Cleaning chemicals smell strong and spook game plus some rifles shoot different when clean. I shoot less than 20 rounds a year typically
I had a Ruger M77 25.06 with a bull barrel that my best friend traded a old compound bow for because the guy who had the rifle said it was junk and wouldn't group. My buddy was never able to do anything with the rifle due to illness so I took it and the first thing I did was clean the bore. It was so dirty I could barely get the cleaning rod and bore brush down the barrel. I cleaned it for over two hours to get all of the powder and copper fouling out. Ounce clean it shot 5/8" 3 shot group's at 100 yards. No I didn't shoot it before I cleaned it because it was obvious that the non grouping issue was because it was so built up with fouling.
Well done, Todd. A proper cleaning has "saved" many an inaccurate rifle.
after cleaning the chamber i like to patch a little oil in there also
I usually clean to protect from rust, but Missouri gets real humid.
I have a brand new Remington 870 field master I have only shot 7 target loads through it and I went to clean it and the patches keep on coming out a brown color and I let the break free clp set for about 25 minutes and I repeated this for 3 times and they are still coming out brown I used the copper brush in between the patches and it doesent help but I looked inside the barrel with a bore light and it looks completely clean ?
I used to use the rods but now ever since I started using just the can of CLP and a bore snake my rifles seem to be to be a lot more consistent.
Good to know, Donovan. Thanks!
The bore snakes clean better that the rods with patches or brushes?
I enjoyed the video; however, try to match the sound level of the intro and exit music with the sound level of the talking. When the music comes in, it wakes up everyone in the house.
Free all works great
Very well done. I've cleaned friends rifles for them i wondered how the firearm even functioned. They pull it out of the closet covered in rust, makes me sick.
Would you consider using a bore snake?
I went to clean my rifle barrel I used a wet patch then I let it set then I used the brush after I brush it I use the patch then I repeat I did this like 5 times and the patches just won’t come out clean any suggestions
what does it mean when I don't have copper showing up after 60 rounds of 308 from my newly purchased Mossberg Patriot? My new Tikka, my older Patriot, my Sig SHR970, my 700's provide some green on the white cloth after only 20 plus rounds when I also soak the bore with hoppes 9 and let it sit muzzle down for copper removal. Bore out of spec by .0001 inches? Crazy circumstances and results. Thanks
What brand/caliber is this rifle, Ron? It's absolutely beautiful! Please respond...
Definitely a SAUER 101 with fluted barrel with a beautiful carbon stock. The 6 lugs on the bolt action gave it away.
Opinion to use AR or shotgun cleaning items for cleaning chamber and bolt throat?