Why didn't Frost come to this mission? - Call of Duty MW3

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  • @pikasome2585
    @pikasome2585 2 роки тому +4757

    Frost was actually planned for this mission cause in the game files, there’s unused dialogue of Price talking to him directly

  • @tieradlerch.217
    @tieradlerch.217 2 роки тому +3433

    Basically Jackson, Ramirez, Frost, AC-130 gunner, astronaut in MW2, Sgt. Burn are NPC alike but they are playable

    • @jedrickrebello2246
      @jedrickrebello2246 2 роки тому +118

      Roach

    • @saidmass2
      @saidmass2 2 роки тому +104

      NPC means - Non-Player Character.
      How does that make sense?

    • @ZimX63
      @ZimX63 2 роки тому +22

      @@saidmass2 nah it mean non playable character

    • @saidmass2
      @saidmass2 2 роки тому +6

      @@ZimX63 Google it

    • @fnm249sawtoo
      @fnm249sawtoo 2 роки тому +20

      @@saidmass2 it's non playable character bro. If it's a non player character, then we the player still can play as the character. It will like the gta v character select wheel but with npcs instead

  • @iwolima4081
    @iwolima4081 2 роки тому +1914

    As you stated before, Frost's callsign is Metal-04, which is said by Overlord in the Spec Ops mission, so Theory 2 is the most likely theory why Frost is absent in Down the Rabbit Hole

    • @tarheelpro87
      @tarheelpro87 Рік тому +120

      Yeah it sounds plausible to me, cause as Price, Sandman and the others get out with the president, self destructing the mine would make it harder for anyone to track them down from there, and might eliminate any high value targets that they are or aren’t aware of. Plus it’d be harder for the ultranationalists to report what happened.

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 Рік тому +53

      I mean there is a Spec Ops mission based on this level many people say its Frost considering that mission too takes place in This same level

    • @1212ruigen
      @1212ruigen Рік тому +11

      @@tarheelpro87 theory 2 would be impossible since price would have to be in both the mission frost was missing in and the one he would be doing? therefore theory 2 gets debunked by itself

    • @srxdeadpool9006
      @srxdeadpool9006 Рік тому +7

      No, he was in a control room somewhere in the building, he's the one who caused the explosions at the end of the mission

    • @Vox-53
      @Vox-53 Рік тому +7

      In special ops overlord said metal 04 and that was Frost’s callsign

  • @r.o.b5981
    @r.o.b5981 2 роки тому +814

    Metal 0-4 is the callsign of Frost, so Frost really impact "Down the rabbit hole" mission. It's a detail, but a nice one for who like the story of this trilogy (like me).

    • @aleccross3535
      @aleccross3535 2 роки тому +17

      I did not understand a single thing

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 2 роки тому +9

      what?

    • @obiwankenobi1003
      @obiwankenobi1003 2 роки тому +8

      Oh no, where's godzilla

    • @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309
      @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 2 роки тому +64

      If you look closely on New York and Berlin mission, Metal team/squad led by Sandman has a number after the callsign. Sandman = Metal 0-1 (Zero-One, means leader), Truck = Metal 0-2 (Zero-Two), Grinch = Metal 0-3 (Zero-Three), and Frost = Metal 0-4 (Zero-Four).
      In the video, Metal 0-4 is mentioned by overlord with it's order to blow up the mine, or some part of it.

    • @alistairvan4059
      @alistairvan4059 2 роки тому +16

      @@muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 If frost was ordered to blow up the mine, why can't overlord tell him to blow up the mine after the president and everyone with him get out.

  • @kingkuda3458
    @kingkuda3458 2 роки тому +1062

    Frost got the "don't come to school tomorrow" by someone on the team and survived like that 💀

    • @Minchken
      @Minchken Рік тому +29

      Grinch must have told him that. It pays to be the quiet kid.

    • @TotallyNotARebel_550
      @TotallyNotARebel_550 10 місяців тому +7

      He is the one who didn't come to school and a school shooting happened.

    • @jospehcahill7320
      @jospehcahill7320 5 місяців тому +1

      Makarov was like: I like you Frost don’t come to school tomorrow.

    • @Tuantran-k8b
      @Tuantran-k8b 2 місяці тому

      He sick 😂

  • @TheSabr
    @TheSabr 2 роки тому +495

    2:39 if this is canon, it’s possible that the team planned to destroy the mine but didn’t expect the to nearly get overrun by the end

    • @MalosiAudios
      @MalosiAudios 2 роки тому +71

      That’s what I’m thinking, hence Delta Squad sacrificing themselves. There were just too many people.

    • @Nomad958
      @Nomad958 2 роки тому +15

      and this canon to where he was i don't remember where i saw it was said

    • @cubranco-rg8bg
      @cubranco-rg8bg 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Nomad958shut UP look tô u pfp

    • @ReaganFruge
      @ReaganFruge 3 місяці тому +5

      You can here sandman say at the start of the mission which i think is actually a unused sound file but is used for the wii version "McCoy your with us Frost your gonna the snowmobile down to the mine and after we get out activate the self destruct overlord will tell you when".

  • @willprince643
    @willprince643 2 роки тому +1177

    Frost should have been a playable character on this mission and Yuri should have appeared as NPC, since he already appearce as NPC in Dust To Dust and is generally more pronounced character. This would also gave Yuri more time to be shown as full character, since in MW trilogy characters are presented in more limited, narrow way when playable.

    • @Rinde007
      @Rinde007 2 роки тому +62

      Would of made the end 10x more sad, a Delta being forced th o watch his bro th hers die

    • @Nexussusnex
      @Nexussusnex Рік тому +43

      @@Rinde007 Or maybe even doing a last stand with your squad

    • @CT--6666
      @CT--6666 Рік тому +14

      @@Nexussusnex At the end of the mission if you would play as frost: *New objective: buy time for the chopper* Then just you replaying that mission if it would be like this, you would say „It’s been an honour boys. 🫡 „

    • @airtiger4577
      @airtiger4577 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@CT--6666 Or the objective would be "protect yuri" since the former spetsnaz member gets incapacitated temporarily and then truck and price drag yuri to the chopper.

  • @Hamentsios10
    @Hamentsios10 2 роки тому +1951

    (Not so) Short answer:
    Jackson, Roach, Ramirez and Frost aren't characters. They're player vehicles to get you through the missions. The devs didn't write their personality because there isn't any. IW said that they wanted player to experience the story without taking part into it, which I personally think it's done very poorly as it leads to awkward moments where the player has to speak and they just stay silent (BF4 did the same and its MUCH worse). There were rare exclusions to that rule with Price at the end of MW3 and Yuri as he is actually a character yet you play as him and yet they still chose to keep him silent besides the flashback level. That kind of creative inconsistency looks bad.
    Long answer?
    [Insert Fan Theory Here]

    • @maskedwonder
      @maskedwonder 2 роки тому +30

      Hey SPi, nice seeing u here

    • @mortexcz1558
      @mortexcz1558 2 роки тому +69

      I think its great idea beacause The player connect with The charakter and feels like he is the soldier
      When I played the game for first time, it made me feel the story more and I liked it
      In the new cods like mw2 2022 you are playing with character with personality and I didn't enjoyed the camping that much
      (Sorry for my bad english)
      Btw big fan of your custom camping

    • @MajorAlex
      @MajorAlex 2 роки тому +38

      That's the one theory I believe in as well...

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  2 роки тому +93

      So they were not characters at all? It's weird, I feel like in all these missions, I was Reznov talking to Mason (in the missions after the prison break), but they brought the Roach character in COD MOBILE, so if he's not a character, he shouldn't be there as a character, right? (The answer was also short :)

    • @mortexcz1558
      @mortexcz1558 2 роки тому +33

      @@alphacodyt technically he is character but with no personality.
      I didn't played black ops so I don't know how it work there

  • @brawlstarssponsorships
    @brawlstarssponsorships 2 роки тому +425

    That explosion at the end of black ice was a small explosion and wasnt the reason sandman died, if you actually watch the end of dtrh the explosions are coming from helicopters, so if frost was in black ice he didnt kill them.

    • @reclaimer0018
      @reclaimer0018 2 роки тому +24

      also he could be the guy shutting down the aa guns in fire mission

    • @BlackstabX
      @BlackstabX 5 місяців тому +3

      Yea people tend to say frost killed his team but tbh the explosions weren't the reason sure yuri got injured and price had to evac him but the rest of J-SOC Delta stayed behind to cover the bird ( helicopter)

  • @Upamanyu2000
    @Upamanyu2000 2 роки тому +427

    It's rather ironic seeing Yuri is silent throughout the time we play as him (except flashback), only for him to get a full fledged model and stuff in the final mission.
    What I wanna say is, IW simply could've allowed us to play as Frost in this level, with Yuri beside us, behaving like he did in Dust to Dust. It wouldn't have been much of a hassle for the Dev's, and would've fit the scenario perfectly.

    • @Take-aim-and-reload...
      @Take-aim-and-reload... 2 роки тому +30

      He actually said a few things in the intro of some missions.
      Mission: "Back on the Grid"
      *Soap:* _"So where do we start hunting?"_
      *Yuri:* _"Africa. Makarov's been using local paramilitary force to move shipment into Sierra Leone. From there, they go towards Morocco. And into Spain."_
      *Soap:* _"He's moving North."_
      *Price:* _"Right towards Her Majesty's doorstep. What's the cargo?"_
      *Yuri:* _"I don't know, but it's important to him."_
      *Price:* _"Then I want it."_
      Mission: "Eye of the Storm"
      *Yuri:* _"Makarov's council altogether in the middle of a warzone? Sounds convenient."_
      *Price:* _"Overconfidence makes you careless."_
      Mission: "Blood Brothers"
      *Soap:* _"Which vehicle will he be in?"_
      *Yuri:* _"They constantly rotate their security. We won't know until he steps out."_
      *Soap:* _"You seem to know a lot about Makarov."_

    • @ibrahimboral1361
      @ibrahimboral1361 Рік тому +11

      ​@@Take-aim-and-reload... yes but he dont talk when you playing as hım, i see that nice thing with mason, Alex mason .. "reloading" enemy down" cover me im reloading" "grenade out" . Things like that so.

    • @cottoneyejoe8285
      @cottoneyejoe8285 Рік тому +5

      The issue lies with the fact that Yuri was injured in Down the Rabbit Hole and had to be dragged to the chopper. Playing as Frost, you would have had your back to him, and wouldn't see the last stand of Metal Team in the same way.

    • @Axl4325
      @Axl4325 Рік тому

      @@cottoneyejoe8285 then give him the Yuri treatment. Same mission, same playable character but now Frost is the fourth member of team Metal in the mission and doesn't die in the elevator crash, voice lines and all. I think they could have just used one of the multiplayer voices and tell the actor to record a few extra lines if it was needed for his character (which I doubt)

    • @sirenoma3609
      @sirenoma3609 3 місяці тому

      I think it would be cool, if you could play as a Frost in this mission, and in the final sequence you help Yuri to get to the chopper (cuz he's been stunned due to explosion or something like that), then helicopter starts to take off, Sandman say "Just go" to Price, and you continue to fight off waves of enemies, seeing helicopter fly off, everything around you explode, Sandman is hit, you run to drag him away and shoot back, your visor is starting to crackle due to damage, at that moment there is an even bigger explosion and you are pelted with debris. I think it would be more dramatic, as you experience a sacrifice from first person, not as a spectator.

  • @jiaweichew3370
    @jiaweichew3370 2 роки тому +140

    There are 2 theories:
    Theory 1 (before looking up spec ops mission black ice):
    Frost was injured while trying to rescue Alena. He is likely to have sustained rib damage or cracks which could have caused him to be unfit to continue the mission and is either hospitalized or providing off-site assistance with overlord (through internal radio) but we “the player” don’t hear.
    Theory 2 (spec ops black ice mission):
    His injuries were minor and with his actions throughout the war, he is promoted to be a delta squad leader and goes through black ice per mission gameplay.

    • @mnguy98
      @mnguy98 8 місяців тому +5

      I always figured that being on the wrong end of a door-breach while rescuing Alena would've injured him severely enough; Sandman is clearly shown landing on Frost's leg, and 250+ pounds of soldier and kit landing on your leg that way definitely isn't going to do that leg any favors

  • @HolaSoyFalz.
    @HolaSoyFalz. 2 роки тому +777

    He would be KIA with the rest of the team. After the Hamburg mission (Rhino 1 and the Vice President Hostage Rescue), he was promoted to Captain Rank and led his own seperate unit in the Delta Force, similar to Sandman.

    • @jonkersjcomers
      @jonkersjcomers 2 роки тому +150

      our boi got his own team:]

    • @pounc3r782
      @pounc3r782 2 роки тому +89

      Sgt to Captain yea sure lol

    • @k1ng_BL0C
      @k1ng_BL0C 2 роки тому +74

      @@pounc3r782 literally, battlefield commissions start at lieutenant

    • @badluck7286
      @badluck7286 2 роки тому +98

      He took part in rescuing Alena, we can see his POV in the "Down the Rabbit Hole" (I think) Spec ops mission where he is the one to set the charges to the cave system, he even is referred to by his callsign "Metal-04"

    • @LeesDeeds
      @LeesDeeds 2 роки тому +7

      I Thought Only NCOs Were On The Field For Delta Force

  • @docholiday4129
    @docholiday4129 2 роки тому +63

    Mw3’s campaign is so much like an action movie. I like to imagine if it was there would he a scene of Team metal, Frost and tf141 all setting out on a helipad. Frost walks up to price or Sandman and says “give em hell” before walking to his new squad

    • @withsherif4743
      @withsherif4743 Рік тому

      And his squad has like mg’s, rpg’s and what-not

  • @RevisedGames
    @RevisedGames 2 роки тому +65

    That spec ops tie in blew my mind honestly you might be on to something there I never thought about it that way. I have always felt the spec ops missions were connected to the main story in some elusive way. Very excellent video!

  • @josetomascamposrobledano4618
    @josetomascamposrobledano4618 Рік тому +21

    MW3 was a Miracle considering the development.
    If they where given the time, my bet is that YURI would have been an NPC and we would have played as Frost in this mission.

    • @worminaround
      @worminaround 8 місяців тому +1

      I donno why when I was a kid I kinda liked Frost, maybe his missions were fun af, Yuri was still my fav in the cast,

  • @basedchad534
    @basedchad534 2 роки тому +605

    I think every cod game needs to have heavy skill based matchmaking. To even out the gameplay.

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  2 роки тому +44

      Yes, it would be great

    • @Epsilon-18
      @Epsilon-18 2 роки тому +15

      Yes, Ramirez too

    • @nebiyuesayas5600
      @nebiyuesayas5600 2 роки тому +12

      Same, maybe Ramirez too as one of the Vaqueros

    • @ar1299gaming
      @ar1299gaming 2 роки тому

      I feel Alex us sandman

    • @holdencross5904
      @holdencross5904 2 роки тому +3

      @@alphacodyt I could see them extending the story into more games. MW3 and MW4. I really enjoyed Metal Team and I just found it odd. Whenever we’ve had a chopper there has been a door mounted minigun. If there had been one of those then Metal team would’ve survived.

  • @WolferFrostByte
    @WolferFrostByte 2 роки тому +129

    If you ask me frost was riding around the mine in a snow mobile and was on a different part of the map

    • @yesiam.461
      @yesiam.461 2 роки тому +13

      Finally some braincells

    • @astra4533
      @astra4533 2 роки тому

      aint that what was in the video

    • @aurorialgaming1935
      @aurorialgaming1935 Рік тому +1

      Not just above ground either, when he arrived underground he added tires and terrorized the reinforcements too.

    • @KadenHartley
      @KadenHartley 9 місяців тому

      ​@@aurorialgaming1935Thats my boy 🥲

  • @knightmare1267
    @knightmare1267 2 роки тому +157

    I think Frost did kill his teamates, seeing as Overlord names "Metal 0-4" which was Frosts callsign. Also because of how often they tie the main story to the spec ops in this game.

    • @BeanMartinVEVO
      @BeanMartinVEVO 2 роки тому +25

      Metal 0-4 would be the callsign for the 4th element in the team, not unique to Frost himself. So Team Metal would have Metal 0-1 through 0-4, regardless of who the individual element is

    • @knightmare1267
      @knightmare1267 2 роки тому +7

      @Bean Martin VEVO except Cod did it as first number = squad, second number = individual. That's why Price is Bravo 0-6 in the new games. Even on a loading screen you can see that despite being 1 squad, every member of MW3s Delta team has different call signs. Sandman is 0-1, Grinch is 0-2, Truck 0-3, and Frost 0-4.

    • @goldenhedgehog9
      @goldenhedgehog9 2 роки тому +22

      @@knightmare1267 The loading screen has them listed all as Metal zero 1 through 4. Metal 0-4 is only Frost's callsign because he is the 4th member of the team. If he was moved to a different team and someone else took his place, Frost doesn't take that callsign with him, the new person's callsign is becomes Metal 0-4.

    • @kengiro0599
      @kengiro0599 Рік тому +2

      I think it was just a oversight by the developers

    • @Xen0411
      @Xen0411 8 місяців тому

      ​@@goldenhedgehog9maybe overlord assign him to this mission like he as a juggernaut collecting radioactive sample solo mission

  • @DylanoRevs
    @DylanoRevs 2 роки тому +36

    Down the Rabbit hole would've been better if we got to play as Frost.

    • @tomaxxghost6891
      @tomaxxghost6891 2 роки тому +14

      If we actually changed trough the mission from Frost to Yuri in the middle of the mission

    • @brixenlang3207
      @brixenlang3207 2 роки тому +6

      imagine if they could swap perspectives based on a specific part of the mission

    • @frost3193
      @frost3193 2 роки тому +3

      @@brixenlang3207 Yup just like the mission "Iron Lady" 2 playable characters and perspectives in one mission

  • @solidNJ
    @solidNJ 2 роки тому +45

    I've always asked myself that question, but man, he definitely deserved some rest after Hamburg. 😂

    • @ayo_danni
      @ayo_danni 7 місяців тому

      what happened in Hamburg?

    • @ALXAD3
      @ALXAD3 5 місяців тому

      ​@@ayo_dannithe door blew up on him sandman landed on his leg a whole building fell on him yeah he definitely needs some rest

    • @ayo_danni
      @ayo_danni 5 місяців тому

      @@ALXAD3 To be fair bro survived a tank falling through a couple floors

    • @alexanderchristopher6237
      @alexanderchristopher6237 13 днів тому

      @ALXAD3that’s Berlin, not Hamburg. In Hamburg, his tank fell down several levels. In Berlin, he got an entire skyscraper fall on him.
      Dude doesn’t have a good time in Germany.

  • @Axce45
    @Axce45 2 роки тому +69

    Poor MCcoy hé died so quickly

    • @thatguywhousesr3105
      @thatguywhousesr3105 2 роки тому +15

      Hes probably just a DCcoy. Get it? Decoy? You know.... Yeah this one is bad

    • @dragonlord1997
      @dragonlord1997 2 роки тому +2

      Tobey Maguire

    • @bigcuz4689
      @bigcuz4689 2 роки тому +2

      Wow that was bad 😂

    • @Witheredddddd
      @Witheredddddd Рік тому +4

      Poor man didn't even make it out of the elevator

    • @DrkTheNewGuy
      @DrkTheNewGuy 7 місяців тому +1

      Bro only had 1 line too 😂

  • @thealex2971
    @thealex2971 2 роки тому +45

    Imagine this
    Frost is înjured and waits for his Delta Team to come back but he sees Price with some dogtags

    • @babycarrotz32
      @babycarrotz32 2 роки тому +9

      That would make for a badass cinematic/cutscene.

    • @bigcuz4689
      @bigcuz4689 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah but impossible to get those tags

    • @charvydeliquina5120
      @charvydeliquina5120 2 роки тому +1

      Price come back with Yuri and President without Delta Team

    • @thealex2971
      @thealex2971 2 роки тому +1

      @@babycarrotz32 I know
      But lets say someway or alternative cutscene Delta Team give their dogtags to Price (if you ask me making a emotial scene)

    • @ssww3
      @ssww3 2 роки тому

      @@bigcuz4689 true

  • @JakvsMetalheads999
    @JakvsMetalheads999 2 роки тому +56

    It’s probably just because they didn’t want to go through the trouble of giving him a character model and voice actor for one mission, or have the dissonance and weirdness of him being a silent and masked NPC. Honestly it would have made more sense to have Frost be the playable character in this one, with Yuri as the NPC, since Yuri already had a voice actor and NPC model. I like the theories in this video as in universe explanations though, especially theory 2.

  • @silvergamer8886
    @silvergamer8886 2 роки тому +43

    Did you know that we are Frost in a spec ops mission.I don't remember which special ops mission but in the mission Overlord said
    "Metal 0-4,Make your way to the stock exchange....." so I think its Frost

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  2 роки тому +8

      Yes, we play as Frost in some Spec Ops missions

    • @yesiam.461
      @yesiam.461 2 роки тому

      @@alphacodyt black ice.

    • @nomislam9030
      @nomislam9030 Рік тому +5

      ​@@alphacodytspec ops are canon,their IS two Of them That are Frost training with The Delta Force

  • @nebiyuesayas5600
    @nebiyuesayas5600 2 роки тому +9

    My personal head canon (idk if SpecOps are canon but they might be) is that for some reason, Frost got wounded and couldn't partake. After he recovers and learns that Sandman and the other Delta men sacrificed themselves, Price recruits him as a new member of 141. Maybe he has some issues (having lost Soap, Yuri, Roach, Gaz, and the whole betrayal thing), but Frost is a well-trained ex-Spec Force op and it goes well.

  • @BronyLord-wo1ym
    @BronyLord-wo1ym 9 місяців тому +1

    "Simple" Frost retired from the force.

  • @Wrench115
    @Wrench115 2 роки тому +38

    Theory 2 is actually canon to the story.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships 2 роки тому +1

      Says who?

    • @HazmattMorningstar
      @HazmattMorningstar 2 роки тому +23

      @@brawlstarssponsorships Overlord referred to the Operator in Theory 2 as "Metal 0-4" Which is literally Frost's callsign.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships 2 роки тому +2

      @@HazmattMorningstar Not confirmed by the developers though. Lots of spec ops missions are made just for fun.

    • @HazmattMorningstar
      @HazmattMorningstar 2 роки тому +24

      @@brawlstarssponsorships Since when did developers have to say something was canon for it to be canon? Going by that logic, nothing in any game is canon unless the developers confirmed it, so like are you telling me no campaign missions in Modern warfare 3 are canon because the developers haven't confirmed it? Or that Shepherd didn't really betray us, or that Ghost and Roach never really died. going by that logic these never actually happened because the Developers haven't confirmed it.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships 2 роки тому +2

      @@HazmattMorningstar Ok.

  • @alister2755
    @alister2755 Рік тому +7

    I would love to see frost reappear in the future with actual voice lines that gave more depth to him

  • @brothertrav9732
    @brothertrav9732 2 роки тому +9

    I like to think that he stayed top side with everyone else as the joint team went in, but theory wise I would accept this as the reason why if it was 2 player, if it wasn't then frost is more of a beast than all of them doing that by his lonesome.

  • @RyanWerth
    @RyanWerth 5 місяців тому

    I love that they all wear the old 141-esq jackets

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter 2 роки тому +3

    Frost killing his team is such a goofy plot twist

  • @gersonencarnacion3744
    @gersonencarnacion3744 6 місяців тому +1

    Frost didnt attend cause he earned a day off after carrying his whole team.

  • @elcrashito561
    @elcrashito561 2 роки тому +9

    The second theory is the most accurate for the simple reason that it is a dlc and that it would not make much sense for Frost to disguise himself as pieces for the mission. In conclusion, Frost is one of the few protagonists they Are alive

    • @willhornsby206
      @willhornsby206 8 місяців тому +1

      spec ops isn't dlc. It's litterally part of the games package.

  • @jahimuddin2306
    @jahimuddin2306 Рік тому +3

    I always wondered why Frost was not in this mission. Finally, someone made a video on this decade-long question that I have had. I thought it was because he was injured in action.

  • @marshal6738
    @marshal6738 2 роки тому +3

    Finally, a video focusing on Frost. Man is a badass. Also, I think theory 2 is the most plausible hypothesis.

  • @szybkiwojtas7895
    @szybkiwojtas7895 Рік тому

    0:25
    Director: Mccoy! You are supposed to be dead!
    Mccoy: Okay. (dies)

  • @HarmonicVector
    @HarmonicVector 9 місяців тому +3

    I like to believe he was just WIA in Scorched Earth and couldn't come to the mission. Keep in mind that Frost was apparently providing Overwatch for Kingfish (the long pincer movement that explains why Price was found in a gulag in MW2), so with his absence, Price and Frost are the sole survivors of Kingfish. And who knows, maybe Price just died at the end of MW3 where he's smoking a cigar, and Frost is just the only one left standing.

    • @impoor31
      @impoor31 4 місяці тому

      Don’t forgery Nick too

  • @AGENTKSM0118
    @AGENTKSM0118 2 роки тому +2

    Now i know why frost not come to this mission
    Thanks for the information
    00:57 why he's name pieces?
    02:47 they active the bom is too early, that why diamond mine was explode
    So we lost sandman,Grinch, and truck

  • @vojta0808
    @vojta0808 2 роки тому +19

    He was there but who knows.. Hard to say, maybe he wasn't and it is just spec ops mission.. Anyways.. In 2:38 Overlord calls Metal 0-4 and that's Frost which is mentioned in video and that is interesting point.

  • @Borealis1907
    @Borealis1907 2 роки тому +12

    Good Video My Friend!

  • @ds7ryan2.02
    @ds7ryan2.02 2 місяці тому

    Frost is one of those characters you forget about but if you hear anything about him it just unlocks new nostalgia example:Yuri, Makarov etc.

  • @Quadro-z6o
    @Quadro-z6o 8 місяців тому +2

    playable characters like frost, Ramirez and roach always treated badly like their existence was ignored😢

  • @trumpetfish
    @trumpetfish 11 місяців тому +2

    0:48 my man be looking frosty 🥶🥶🥶

  • @ggszerg2
    @ggszerg2 2 роки тому +38

    I think the reason why Frost didn't come to this mission is because he didn't want to die or he is taking care of something a mission before that

  • @batot3617
    @batot3617 2 роки тому +10

    02:19 ay yo, what is this mission? I have spent hours in cod mw3 spec ops and I never saw this mission.

    • @star_t1
      @star_t1 2 роки тому +6

      Spec ops DLC mission

    • @batot3617
      @batot3617 2 роки тому +4

      @@star_t1 oh alright, thx

  • @Juicy_wiwi
    @Juicy_wiwi Рік тому +2

    There was dialogue of price talking to frost in the game files. So Frost was supposed to be in this mission but was cut later in the game’s development

  • @theonepup8022
    @theonepup8022 2 роки тому +7

    This is the question I’ve always asked and wondered

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  2 роки тому +1

      Me too :)

    • @ghostwhencodghosts9114
      @ghostwhencodghosts9114 2 роки тому

      @@alphacodyt ive been searching for an answer for 10 years i guess cod fans are this braindead that they had nk idea where he was

  • @matheusmelisguerrapeixe2330
    @matheusmelisguerrapeixe2330 2 роки тому +2

    Theory 2 is super cool and dark and makes sense, sending only one person to set the self destruction while there's a war in their backyard is very smart

  • @mushahidkazi8561
    @mushahidkazi8561 Рік тому

    I just now read about frost, he is alive, because he didn't took part in that mission where whole team dies

  • @kadirhanaltunsoy3290
    @kadirhanaltunsoy3290 Рік тому +2

    Frost was my favorite mw3 character. Playing as frost was just so cool.

    • @UNGOC_Engineer3231
      @UNGOC_Engineer3231 Рік тому +1

      same

    • @AdakLony
      @AdakLony Рік тому

      For me, He's got The essence of Doom Slayer. Always silent, just doing with actions.

    • @edmondnwamoh6830
      @edmondnwamoh6830 Рік тому

      The truth is I will you want to play as frost in the campaign and online multiplayer

  • @HGJ8Productions
    @HGJ8Productions 2 роки тому +7

    If COD MW2019 was instead a continuation of COD MW3 I always thought Alex being Frost was a cool concept and that his ‘sacrifice’ in the mission Game Over was to make amends for what happened here.
    The reason I like Alex being Frost is because lore wise Alex was a Delta Force operator who becomes a CIA agent so it kinda lines up with the hypothetical.

    • @senseless_yurei9433
      @senseless_yurei9433 2 роки тому +1

      frost and roach are siblings and since i dont think it ever says if alex has brothers while a very cool theroy it just doesnt work yk

    • @HGJ8Productions
      @HGJ8Productions 2 роки тому +2

      @@senseless_yurei9433 Frost and Roach are siblings? I'm interested to know what you mean by this

    • @senseless_yurei9433
      @senseless_yurei9433 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@HGJ8Productions According to google (not some fan page more like his profile page) He has two younger brothers named James Ellison, Gary "Roach" Sanderson, and Danny Ellison.

    • @weplo1597
      @weplo1597 Рік тому +1

      @@senseless_yurei9433 But Roach is british or canadian while Frost is american.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 Рік тому

      That could be because they are half siblings. We know of real life families that are like that.
      Take Bruce Forsyth, the British game show host. His half brother is the Forsyth from Dynasty, an American, and both detested each other, to the point they never spoke after reaching adulthood.
      Yet, both were said to be really nice men to interact and talk with.@@weplo1597

  • @keira733
    @keira733 5 місяців тому

    If you look it up it says that frost was tasked with searching for another way into the mines.

  • @Psy1-1
    @Psy1-1 8 місяців тому

    This actually reminded me of a thing Delta can do which is opt out of a mission if they're 100% "there". Saw an interview on a podcast of a former Delta guy and that made me think Frost opted out since they were already committing so many assets, they couldn't afford to lose all of Delta.

  • @Currumpaw
    @Currumpaw Рік тому

    Frost was accidentally told the wrong time to rally at the motor pool. The poor dude was waiting there for hours, thinking everyone else was late.

  • @GloriaGrothe
    @GloriaGrothe 7 місяців тому +1

    2:21 Something is missing, Frost needs to rescue the Russian President’s Daughter before self destruction

  • @swempytimes
    @swempytimes 6 місяців тому

    I like that second theory

  • @MSRLR
    @MSRLR Рік тому

    I always assumed he got injured when the rigged door went off,
    Then later got medical care.

  • @pharaohbubbles1547
    @pharaohbubbles1547 Рік тому

    Maybe they just didnt feel like making an actual character model for him lol

  • @kdera7698
    @kdera7698 Рік тому

    Yooooo I always wondered where the hell was Frost in that mission, those memories of playing the Modern Warfare trilogy in my PS3 just came flooding in.

  • @cluelesspotato8945
    @cluelesspotato8945 5 місяців тому +1

    If Theory 2 is correct, Frost will likely be dealing with the guilt for the rest of his life

  • @Again-v5r
    @Again-v5r 6 місяців тому

    Not all of us have the 2011 Modern Warfare Secret Spec Ops DLC

  • @TreatMySoul
    @TreatMySoul 2 роки тому +2

    Frost was in this mission, he was in the dlc called black ice, you can play as him while riding a snowmobile, gunning enemies around the rabbit hole, he's basically clearing the path for sandman and price's team, and at the end of the dlc mission, frost pushed a button that made the hole explode, so in short, frost accidentally killed his team.

    • @thegageinator805
      @thegageinator805 2 роки тому

      Didn't watch this video all the way through, did ya?

    • @TreatMySoul
      @TreatMySoul 2 роки тому +1

      @@thegageinator805 yes I did, I just put this comment here to make it clear

  • @starsinthenight555
    @starsinthenight555 6 місяців тому

    I'm a year late, but maybe both theory's could be correct. While he saw metal team get on the helicopter he got dressed in the nearest combat outfit (which is why his outfit in that mission looked like the one in the tank engine) and then sneaked onto hammer 1-6's helicopter and then jumped off

  • @greenth-mac2550
    @greenth-mac2550 9 місяців тому

    Glade to see I am not the only one who wondered this since 2011. Yeah it's a real mystery why the devs decided to not add Frost in this mission, a real shame, always wanted him to be in it.
    On the bright side, Frost got to live. Also, I never got to play this spec ops mission so this is my first time knowing it's real content. I had zero chances to connect the dots.
    Edit:
    3:16 Also, as much it is a memorable and beautiful scene, it IS incredibly ridiculous how not a single enemy shot nor an RPG hit them (except for Sandman in his neck).

  • @halilkingvcmpm4
    @halilkingvcmpm4 8 місяців тому

    All silenced cod protagonists are perfect

  • @stallingset7301
    @stallingset7301 5 місяців тому +1

    he did call him metal 0-4, and thats Frost Callsign 2:37

  • @jalenbobo668
    @jalenbobo668 Рік тому

    Frost was probably injured in the last mission also after knowing his team sacrificed themselves he would run metal zero and become metal zero 1

  • @bluealchemist1433
    @bluealchemist1433 Місяць тому +1

    I’m just glad the reboot trash didn’t touch Delta Force.
    They would’ve just ruined them like they did everyone else in the original modern warfare and black ops…especially black ops.

  • @iluvrobux7658
    @iluvrobux7658 7 місяців тому +1

    It's cuz hes a playable character and he wears a mask so he's basically a canon fodder there ya go no need for no bullshit theories

  • @dodgemichael1665
    @dodgemichael1665 2 роки тому +2

    I always thought it was the same mission at the same time and Frost was clearing a secondary objective

  • @hinatahyuga9311
    @hinatahyuga9311 7 місяців тому +1

    They were at war it's possible frost was needed else where sure he was part of sandmans team but frost can't be everywhere at once he was needed at a different battlefield

  • @ElonkTuah
    @ElonkTuah Рік тому

    Ngl everytime i hear Overlord speak, i get a wave of nostalgia

  • @JohnRexPadillo
    @JohnRexPadillo Рік тому

    In wiki, it says that Frost was on the chopper gunners

  • @nashnash4328
    @nashnash4328 2 місяці тому

    I guess Frost was looking forward to that promotion after all.

  • @seanbean3880
    @seanbean3880 2 роки тому +2

    Frost being on a seperate mission makes sense, i mean even when Overlord tells you to plant the DSM to initiate the self destruct he uses Frost's call sign (Metal 0-4)

    • @BeanMartinVEVO
      @BeanMartinVEVO 2 роки тому

      Metal 0-4 is the callsign 4th element in Team Metal, not unique to Frost. If Frost was replaced, the new person would still be called Metal 0-4 and Frost’s callsign would be something else, where ever he was sent to

    • @seanbean3880
      @seanbean3880 2 роки тому

      @@BeanMartinVEVO Yes but that special op takes place at the same time but in a different area of that mine. So hes still a part of Metal team just has different orders, and this being CoD I very much doubt at the time they took the time to know how fireteams actually worked in the military.

  • @SubReikoPy
    @SubReikoPy 4 місяці тому

    I always wondered where Ramirez was during the events of MW3 too
    like in the 1st mission cutscene you see that the 75th Rangers are still defending the country but there is no cameo of Ramirez in the game

  • @Luke-vg4mt
    @Luke-vg4mt 9 місяців тому

    Frost was an old informat of shepherds and wanted to get them killed but failed when he separated. He now has disappeared in the world never to be found

  • @spartianz3r068
    @spartianz3r068 Рік тому

    I read online that frost was injured and sss left to recuperate while his team helped price

  • @TheNuisanceBird
    @TheNuisanceBird 2 роки тому +2

    Not only are they're voice lines in the game files showing Frost was going to be present for Delta Force's final mission but if you look at Yuri's first person model when he jumps over the railing he has Frost's.
    In MW3 remastered when First and Sandman breach the door they should make it so Frost gets piece of shrapnel through his leg. That was always my head canon as to why he was suddenly absent. Sure Sandman was in front of him but not only did they get blown back but they also fell through the floor. They could incorporate more of that in the remaster.

    • @Lightning_God_kashimo
      @Lightning_God_kashimo 2 роки тому +2

      He has a reason for being absent though, if you've played spec ops you'd see because he has the task of blowing up the mine. Which is incidentally how the rest of his squad ends up dead

    • @TheNuisanceBird
      @TheNuisanceBird 2 роки тому

      @@Lightning_God_kashimo I have played that mission but it’s questionable on how canon it is and if I remember correctly it was a DLC one. So during the campaign development Frost was likely taken out for other reasons.

  • @knickcumberbatch9034
    @knickcumberbatch9034 2 роки тому

    I always thought he got PTSD in the mission cuz of the building dropping on him but it is a good question to be asked lol

  • @BookOfEnchantments
    @BookOfEnchantments 5 місяців тому

    Tbh my theory is Frost got assign with Anvil Team instead Metal (Sandmans team) thats on a mission in a different part of Invaded Europe.

  • @DarthOminis
    @DarthOminis Рік тому +1

    They should've made Frost playable in the level, but you play as Yuri after the helicopter goes down. And then another spec ops mission sees Frost with the rest of Metal team during the explosions, but after the collapse he wakes up and Truck/ Grinch tells him Sandman and the other teammate is gone, and it becomes a journey to escape the ruins, but the efforts are feeble because a boulder falls onto them after a minute (the level is timed to be 1 minute long after the collapse, like Aftermath in COD4- after you fall from the helicopter the level is on an invisible timer)

  • @SuNBrAx
    @SuNBrAx Рік тому

    Frost was in that Ah/Mh-6 in the Mission, probably alive, and we know, Frost don't talk :). AND! If Frost was in the mission, It would be more reasonable to add him to the scene with the death of the Delta Force.

  • @baconrobloxgangforever4195
    @baconrobloxgangforever4195 Рік тому

    That third theory makes sense the most

  • @General_shepherd69
    @General_shepherd69 6 місяців тому

    My Theory is frost is present and alive in Down to the rabbit hole but He task to blown up the mine after price and other task to save president so i think theory no.2 is the closest answer its sad because he lost sandman

  • @DeagleShot-b3k
    @DeagleShot-b3k 7 місяців тому

    i think infinity ward has forget frost🤣

  • @chgaming5059
    @chgaming5059 2 роки тому

    Frost knew what's about to happened so he bailed out and wait outside

  • @mav40420
    @mav40420 6 місяців тому

    Frost was most likely taken out of play because he either had wounds from Berlin or probably sent home.

  • @dr1ft3r006
    @dr1ft3r006 4 місяці тому

    "i didn't read the script so i'm gonna self destruct the mine myself!" -Literally frost after he didn't read the script

  • @suyenisaidiot
    @suyenisaidiot Рік тому +1

    Most likely, he was W.I.A in scorched earth. Overload would tell frost that the delta team and tf141 would be there, also the fact that overload was also in down the rabbit hole.

  • @nguyenphuoc4834
    @nguyenphuoc4834 2 роки тому +1

    There won’t be a theory that Sandman died due to Frost trigger self-destruct sequence, because it was involve in combat cooperation: Sandman was sent to that mine with his mission is save Vorshevsky and his daughter, but in the same operation Frost was sent to mine control center to trigger self destruct sequence, both Frost and Sandman must have informed that Sandman is in a hostage rescue mission deep inside the mine and Frost won’t do it if Sandman team is still inside, of course command won’t authorise Frost to do so, except command order Frost to do that

  • @alexm.a.d892
    @alexm.a.d892 9 місяців тому

    I mean overlord calls him metal 0-4, there's no doubt that's frost

  • @Imperia-official
    @Imperia-official Місяць тому +1

    What if frost participated at a different fromt

  • @AntoniusDace1278
    @AntoniusDace1278 Рік тому

    The wiki for Frost actually mentions the special op with Metal-04 but it’s up for speculation whether it’s canon.

  • @Ryan_lol422
    @Ryan_lol422 2 роки тому

    Fun fact in the elevator sometimes mccoy would have a changed model and name and u can get the model of frost and even his name u can keep restarting for it to happen because it happened to me

  • @JetpacktheSpartan404
    @JetpacktheSpartan404 2 роки тому +3

    I imagine Frost would feel so bad about himself and feel guilty when he learns that he unintentionally killed his allies when he hit the self destruct button.
    Also on a another note, why do the Inner Circle have a self destruct button? Did they get it from Dr Doofenshmirtz?

    • @flaggy185
      @flaggy185 2 роки тому +2

      Probably because they knew that some day they would be overrun by some army of the government, and they prepared it to kill as many enemies as they could to escape to a new direction
      But then the "minor" assault of the 144 and the Delta force taked place by surprise, they dint have time to organize a retreat or something and the self destruction was activated, killing and destroying the vast majority of the Makarov Army

    • @nomislam9030
      @nomislam9030 Рік тому

      Really, Doofinsmirth?😂😂😂

  • @Knight_of_new_londo
    @Knight_of_new_londo 2 роки тому +6

    I dont think that frost was injured because how someone injured from debris from a falling building still act normal like nothing happened like 6 seconds after a damm building falled on his entire squad including him?

  • @manuelgrothe608
    @manuelgrothe608 Рік тому +1

    I really vote for a remastered version of MW3(not reboot)

  • @neroxfrostbyte7461
    @neroxfrostbyte7461 3 місяці тому

    So actually in the MW3 Spec Ops DLC mission "Black Ice" your Callsign is "MZ-4/Metal 0-4" which you play as Frost essentially with you being assigned to intiate the detonation of the Diamond Mine at the same time that Team Metal, Price and Yuri are in the mission "Down the Rabbit Hole". The only unfortunate outcome is that only Yuri, Price and the Russian President manage to escape the exploding mine while the rest of Team Metal (Sandman, Grinch and Truck) perish in it, meaning that Frost inadvertently caused their deaths

  • @camjam8367
    @camjam8367 Рік тому

    *Somehow finds his way to Call of Duty Ghosts 2*
    😂