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  • @kingkuda3458
    @kingkuda3458 Рік тому +856

    Frost got the "don't come to school tomorrow" by someone on the team and survived like that 💀

    • @Minchken
      @Minchken Рік тому +23

      Grinch must have told him that. It pays to be the quiet kid.

    • @TotallyNotARebel_550
      @TotallyNotARebel_550 6 місяців тому +5

      He is the one who didn't come to school and a school shooting happened.

    • @jospehcahill7320
      @jospehcahill7320 Місяць тому +1

      Makarov was like: I like you Frost don’t come to school tomorrow.

  • @pikasome2585
    @pikasome2585 Рік тому +4493

    Frost was actually planned for this mission cause in the game files, there’s unused dialogue of Price talking to him directly

  • @silvergamer8886
    @silvergamer8886 Рік тому +39

    Did you know that we are Frost in a spec ops mission.I don't remember which special ops mission but in the mission Overlord said
    "Metal 0-4,Make your way to the stock exchange....." so I think its Frost

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  Рік тому +8

      Yes, we play as Frost in some Spec Ops missions

    • @yesiam.461
      @yesiam.461 Рік тому

      @@alphacodyt black ice.

    • @nomislam9030
      @nomislam9030 Рік тому +5

      ​@@alphacodytspec ops are canon,their IS two Of them That are Frost training with The Delta Force

  • @Youeatbabies
    @Youeatbabies Рік тому +194

    Probably command saw a much better use for frost’s skills, put him on solo to assist TF 141 and delta force, then is told to self destruct the place but does not know it was the wrong timing to set it off

    • @withsherif4743
      @withsherif4743 Рік тому +7

      Thats actually a good theory man

    • @nerdTimmyswork
      @nerdTimmyswork Рік тому +7

      Nah in the mission he was told when to plant and destruct it by overlord wasn't frost fault

  • @HarmonicVector
    @HarmonicVector 4 місяці тому +2

    I like to believe he was just WIA in Scorched Earth and couldn't come to the mission. Keep in mind that Frost was apparently providing Overwatch for Kingfish (the long pincer movement that explains why Price was found in a gulag in MW2), so with his absence, Price and Frost are the sole survivors of Kingfish. And who knows, maybe Price just died at the end of MW3 where he's smoking a cigar, and Frost is just the only one left standing.

  • @batot3617
    @batot3617 Рік тому +10

    02:19 ay yo, what is this mission? I have spent hours in cod mw3 spec ops and I never saw this mission.

    • @star_t1
      @star_t1 Рік тому +5

      Spec ops DLC mission

    • @batot3617
      @batot3617 Рік тому +4

      @@star_t1 oh alright, thx

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter Рік тому +3

    Frost killing his team is such a goofy plot twist

  • @snifey7694
    @snifey7694 10 місяців тому

    For me, specifically remember that Frost is a staff sergeant, staff sergeant job is to...well be a squad leader, it might as well be that Airborne unit has reassign frost as staff sergeant again after the events of rescuing vice president and the Crashing the hell out of Volk before he bolts. So i assume Frost was at Fort liberty doing a number of paperwork while his Road trip buddies about to die in a siberian Diamond mine! And train a few more Recruit in Delta force, aka Task force green aka CAG!

  • @marshal6738
    @marshal6738 Рік тому +3

    Finally, a video focusing on Frost. Man is a badass. Also, I think theory 2 is the most plausible hypothesis.

  • @AGENT-FAHRY_THEKSM0118
    @AGENT-FAHRY_THEKSM0118 Рік тому +2

    Now i know why frost not come to this mission
    Thanks for the information
    00:57 why he's name pieces?
    02:47 they active the bom is too early, that why diamond mine was explode
    So we lost sandman,Grinch, and truck

  • @MSRLR
    @MSRLR 9 місяців тому

    I always assumed he got injured when the rigged door went off,
    Then later got medical care.

  • @formerwarthunderenjoyer1945

    Derek was in that mission, just working behind the scenes under a different mission codenamed: “Black Ice”, where he destroyed the mine. There’s no other canonical theory of why the mine exploded besides the mission “Black Ice”.

  • @ElonkTuah
    @ElonkTuah Рік тому

    Ngl everytime i hear Overlord speak, i get a wave of nostalgia

  • @Lionlover666
    @Lionlover666 Рік тому

    I think he was likely injured in Germany, at the end of the mission the team is almost killed by a booby trapped door with frost as one of the closest to it. However so was sandman and he still participated.

  • @imverygoodman8622
    @imverygoodman8622 Рік тому +1

    Theory 2 actually seemed convinced me that actually happened, I mean. The mine wouldn't explode for no reason, right? And the parallels between Frost and Yuri are pretty convincing. Just saying, I support Theory 2 ngl

  • @baconrobloxgangforever4195
    @baconrobloxgangforever4195 Рік тому

    That third theory makes sense the most

  • @Sam_Does_Exist6905
    @Sam_Does_Exist6905 Рік тому

    I had a mod for xbox 360 that freezes the AI of the npcs. And when i went on that mission all of the npcs was in a T-pose (because the mod freezes the npcs on the 1st frame before they start their animations) but i saw frost on the lift in a A-pose and McCoy was not there. so i think when the mission starts frost is there for like 1 frame before it swaps to the McCoy model. but when the mission starts the screen is black so you don't get to see it

  • @ABJoshyy
    @ABJoshyy Рік тому

    mw is the best call of duty series from the whole franchise. imo

  • @joshuarichie410
    @joshuarichie410 Рік тому

    Jesus it was actuslly frost that one time i was thinking why am i controlling yuri where is frost? Now ik where was he he was on a secknd mission to activate the self destruct sequence poor sandman and the others they were my fav all of the task force 141 died but frost is still alive baby WOOOO

  • @ickytheclown
    @ickytheclown Рік тому

    I believe frost was simply reassigned to another front or maybe he was holding off Russian reinforcements while they secured the Russian president

  • @_janethtinta_5150
    @_janethtinta_5150 Рік тому

    i always tought frost indeed cuase the explosion of the mine

  • @fadlirobbia9000
    @fadlirobbia9000 Рік тому +1

    2:22 wooow what is this mission ?

  • @CrazyPlatinum92
    @CrazyPlatinum92 Рік тому

    Well he was to op within his element

  • @Blackeagle3729
    @Blackeagle3729 8 місяців тому

    then wait for the remastered for MW3

  • @kristelvidhi5038
    @kristelvidhi5038 Рік тому

    I have a bigger question. If MW got rebooted, does that mean Soap is gonna die again?

  • @mankovitch1130
    @mankovitch1130 Рік тому

    damn, that would be extra fucked up

  • @tieradlerch.217
    @tieradlerch.217 Рік тому +3227

    Basically Jackson, Ramirez, Frost, AC-130 gunner, astronaut in MW2, Sgt. Burn are NPC alike but they are playable

    • @jedrickrebello2246
      @jedrickrebello2246 Рік тому +109

      Roach

    • @saidmass2
      @saidmass2 Рік тому +93

      NPC means - Non-Player Character.
      How does that make sense?

    • @ZimX63
      @ZimX63 Рік тому +19

      @@saidmass2 nah it mean non playable character

    • @saidmass2
      @saidmass2 Рік тому +5

      @@ZimX63 Google it

    • @fnm249sawtoo
      @fnm249sawtoo Рік тому +16

      @@saidmass2 it's non playable character bro. If it's a non player character, then we the player still can play as the character. It will like the gta v character select wheel but with npcs instead

  • @iwolima4081
    @iwolima4081 Рік тому +1768

    As you stated before, Frost's callsign is Metal-04, which is said by Overlord in the Spec Ops mission, so Theory 2 is the most likely theory why Frost is absent in Down the Rabbit Hole

    • @tarheelpro87
      @tarheelpro87 Рік тому +106

      Yeah it sounds plausible to me, cause as Price, Sandman and the others get out with the president, self destructing the mine would make it harder for anyone to track them down from there, and might eliminate any high value targets that they are or aren’t aware of. Plus it’d be harder for the ultranationalists to report what happened.

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 10 місяців тому +48

      I mean there is a Spec Ops mission based on this level many people say its Frost considering that mission too takes place in This same level

    • @1212ruigen
      @1212ruigen 9 місяців тому +9

      @@tarheelpro87 theory 2 would be impossible since price would have to be in both the mission frost was missing in and the one he would be doing? therefore theory 2 gets debunked by itself

    • @srxdeadpool9006
      @srxdeadpool9006 9 місяців тому +6

      No, he was in a control room somewhere in the building, he's the one who caused the explosions at the end of the mission

    • @Vox-53
      @Vox-53 8 місяців тому +6

      In special ops overlord said metal 04 and that was Frost’s callsign

  • @willprince643
    @willprince643 Рік тому +1107

    Frost should have been a playable character on this mission and Yuri should have appeared as NPC, since he already appearce as NPC in Dust To Dust and is generally more pronounced character. This would also gave Yuri more time to be shown as full character, since in MW trilogy characters are presented in more limited, narrow way when playable.

    • @Rinde007
      @Rinde007 Рік тому +60

      Would of made the end 10x more sad, a Delta being forced th o watch his bro th hers die

    • @reginaldcopperbottom468
      @reginaldcopperbottom468 Рік тому +40

      @@Rinde007 Or maybe even doing a last stand with your squad

    • @CT--6666
      @CT--6666 10 місяців тому +13

      @@reginaldcopperbottom468 At the end of the mission if you would play as frost: *New objective: buy time for the chopper* Then just you replaying that mission if it would be like this, you would say „It’s been an honour boys. 🫡 „

    • @airtiger4577
      @airtiger4577 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@CT--6666 Or the objective would be "protect yuri" since the former spetsnaz member gets incapacitated temporarily and then truck and price drag yuri to the chopper.

  • @r.o.b5981
    @r.o.b5981 Рік тому +740

    Metal 0-4 is the callsign of Frost, so Frost really impact "Down the rabbit hole" mission. It's a detail, but a nice one for who like the story of this trilogy (like me).

    • @aleccross3535
      @aleccross3535 Рік тому +17

      I did not understand a single thing

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 Рік тому +9

      what?

    • @obiwankenobi1003
      @obiwankenobi1003 Рік тому +8

      Oh no, where's godzilla

    • @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309
      @muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 Рік тому +59

      If you look closely on New York and Berlin mission, Metal team/squad led by Sandman has a number after the callsign. Sandman = Metal 0-1 (Zero-One, means leader), Truck = Metal 0-2 (Zero-Two), Grinch = Metal 0-3 (Zero-Three), and Frost = Metal 0-4 (Zero-Four).
      In the video, Metal 0-4 is mentioned by overlord with it's order to blow up the mine, or some part of it.

    • @alistairvan4059
      @alistairvan4059 Рік тому +15

      @@muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 If frost was ordered to blow up the mine, why can't overlord tell him to blow up the mine after the president and everyone with him get out.

  • @TheSabr
    @TheSabr Рік тому +440

    2:39 if this is canon, it’s possible that the team planned to destroy the mine but didn’t expect the to nearly get overrun by the end

    • @MalosiAudios
      @MalosiAudios Рік тому +67

      That’s what I’m thinking, hence Delta Squad sacrificing themselves. There were just too many people.

    • @Nomad958
      @Nomad958 Рік тому +15

      and this canon to where he was i don't remember where i saw it was said

    • @cubranco-rg8bg
      @cubranco-rg8bg 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Nomad958shut UP look tô u pfp

  • @Hamentsios10
    @Hamentsios10 Рік тому +1904

    (Not so) Short answer:
    Jackson, Roach, Ramirez and Frost aren't characters. They're player vehicles to get you through the missions. The devs didn't write their personality because there isn't any. IW said that they wanted player to experience the story without taking part into it, which I personally think it's done very poorly as it leads to awkward moments where the player has to speak and they just stay silent (BF4 did the same and its MUCH worse). There were rare exclusions to that rule with Price at the end of MW3 and Yuri as he is actually a character yet you play as him and yet they still chose to keep him silent besides the flashback level. That kind of creative inconsistency looks bad.
    Long answer?
    [Insert Fan Theory Here]

    • @maskedwonder
      @maskedwonder Рік тому +28

      Hey SPi, nice seeing u here

    • @mortexcz1558
      @mortexcz1558 Рік тому +67

      I think its great idea beacause The player connect with The charakter and feels like he is the soldier
      When I played the game for first time, it made me feel the story more and I liked it
      In the new cods like mw2 2022 you are playing with character with personality and I didn't enjoyed the camping that much
      (Sorry for my bad english)
      Btw big fan of your custom camping

    • @MajorAlex
      @MajorAlex Рік тому +37

      That's the one theory I believe in as well...

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  Рік тому +90

      So they were not characters at all? It's weird, I feel like in all these missions, I was Reznov talking to Mason (in the missions after the prison break), but they brought the Roach character in COD MOBILE, so if he's not a character, he shouldn't be there as a character, right? (The answer was also short :)

    • @mortexcz1558
      @mortexcz1558 Рік тому +32

      @@alphacodyt technically he is character but with no personality.
      I didn't played black ops so I don't know how it work there

  • @brawlstarssponsorships
    @brawlstarssponsorships Рік тому +389

    That explosion at the end of black ice was a small explosion and wasnt the reason sandman died, if you actually watch the end of dtrh the explosions are coming from helicopters, so if frost was in black ice he didnt kill them.

    • @reclaimer0018
      @reclaimer0018 Рік тому +24

      also he could be the guy shutting down the aa guns in fire mission

    • @BlackstabX
      @BlackstabX Місяць тому +1

      Yea people tend to say frost killed his team but tbh the explosions weren't the reason sure yuri got injured and price had to evac him but the rest of J-SOC Delta stayed behind to cover the bird ( helicopter)

  • @Upamanyu2000
    @Upamanyu2000 Рік тому +391

    It's rather ironic seeing Yuri is silent throughout the time we play as him (except flashback), only for him to get a full fledged model and stuff in the final mission.
    What I wanna say is, IW simply could've allowed us to play as Frost in this level, with Yuri beside us, behaving like he did in Dust to Dust. It wouldn't have been much of a hassle for the Dev's, and would've fit the scenario perfectly.

    • @Take-aim-and-reload...
      @Take-aim-and-reload... Рік тому +27

      He actually said a few things in the intro of some missions.
      Mission: "Back on the Grid"
      *Soap:* _"So where do we start hunting?"_
      *Yuri:* _"Africa. Makarov's been using local paramilitary force to move shipment into Sierra Leone. From there, they go towards Morocco. And into Spain."_
      *Soap:* _"He's moving North."_
      *Price:* _"Right towards Her Majesty's doorstep. What's the cargo?"_
      *Yuri:* _"I don't know, but it's important to him."_
      *Price:* _"Then I want it."_
      Mission: "Eye of the Storm"
      *Yuri:* _"Makarov's council altogether in the middle of a warzone? Sounds convenient."_
      *Price:* _"Overconfidence makes you careless."_
      Mission: "Blood Brothers"
      *Soap:* _"Which vehicle will he be in?"_
      *Yuri:* _"They constantly rotate their security. We won't know until he steps out."_
      *Soap:* _"You seem to know a lot about Makarov."_

    • @ibrahimboral1361
      @ibrahimboral1361 Рік тому +10

      ​@@Take-aim-and-reload... yes but he dont talk when you playing as hım, i see that nice thing with mason, Alex mason .. "reloading" enemy down" cover me im reloading" "grenade out" . Things like that so.

    • @cottoneyejoe8285
      @cottoneyejoe8285 9 місяців тому +4

      The issue lies with the fact that Yuri was injured in Down the Rabbit Hole and had to be dragged to the chopper. Playing as Frost, you would have had your back to him, and wouldn't see the last stand of Metal Team in the same way.

    • @Axl4325
      @Axl4325 9 місяців тому

      @@cottoneyejoe8285 then give him the Yuri treatment. Same mission, same playable character but now Frost is the fourth member of team Metal in the mission and doesn't die in the elevator crash, voice lines and all. I think they could have just used one of the multiplayer voices and tell the actor to record a few extra lines if it was needed for his character (which I doubt)

  • @jiaweichew3370
    @jiaweichew3370 Рік тому +124

    There are 2 theories:
    Theory 1 (before looking up spec ops mission black ice):
    Frost was injured while trying to rescue Alena. He is likely to have sustained rib damage or cracks which could have caused him to be unfit to continue the mission and is either hospitalized or providing off-site assistance with overlord (through internal radio) but we “the player” don’t hear.
    Theory 2 (spec ops black ice mission):
    His injuries were minor and with his actions throughout the war, he is promoted to be a delta squad leader and goes through black ice per mission gameplay.

    • @mnguy98
      @mnguy98 3 місяці тому +3

      I always figured that being on the wrong end of a door-breach while rescuing Alena would've injured him severely enough; Sandman is clearly shown landing on Frost's leg, and 250+ pounds of soldier and kit landing on your leg that way definitely isn't going to do that leg any favors

  • @WolferFrostByte
    @WolferFrostByte Рік тому +120

    If you ask me frost was riding around the mine in a snow mobile and was on a different part of the map

    • @yesiam.461
      @yesiam.461 Рік тому +13

      Finally some braincells

    • @astra4533
      @astra4533 Рік тому

      aint that what was in the video

    • @aurorialgaming1935
      @aurorialgaming1935 Рік тому +1

      Not just above ground either, when he arrived underground he added tires and terrorized the reinforcements too.

    • @KadenHartley
      @KadenHartley 5 місяців тому

      ​@@aurorialgaming1935Thats my boy 🥲

  • @HolaSoyFalz.
    @HolaSoyFalz. Рік тому +742

    He would be KIA with the rest of the team. After the Hamburg mission (Rhino 1 and the Vice President Hostage Rescue), he was promoted to Captain Rank and led his own seperate unit in the Delta Force, similar to Sandman.

    • @jonkersjcomers
      @jonkersjcomers Рік тому +145

      our boi got his own team:]

    • @pounc3r782
      @pounc3r782 Рік тому +88

      Sgt to Captain yea sure lol

    • @k1ng_BL0C
      @k1ng_BL0C Рік тому +73

      @@pounc3r782 literally, battlefield commissions start at lieutenant

    • @badluck7286
      @badluck7286 Рік тому +95

      He took part in rescuing Alena, we can see his POV in the "Down the Rabbit Hole" (I think) Spec ops mission where he is the one to set the charges to the cave system, he even is referred to by his callsign "Metal-04"

    • @LeesDeeds
      @LeesDeeds Рік тому +6

      I Thought Only NCOs Were On The Field For Delta Force

  • @docholiday4129
    @docholiday4129 Рік тому +57

    Mw3’s campaign is so much like an action movie. I like to imagine if it was there would he a scene of Team metal, Frost and tf141 all setting out on a helipad. Frost walks up to price or Sandman and says “give em hell” before walking to his new squad

    • @withsherif4743
      @withsherif4743 Рік тому

      And his squad has like mg’s, rpg’s and what-not

  • @Axce45
    @Axce45 Рік тому +68

    Poor MCcoy hé died so quickly

    • @thatguywhousesr3105
      @thatguywhousesr3105 Рік тому +14

      Hes probably just a DCcoy. Get it? Decoy? You know.... Yeah this one is bad

    • @dragonlord1997
      @dragonlord1997 Рік тому +2

      Tobey Maguire

    • @bigcuz4689
      @bigcuz4689 Рік тому +2

      Wow that was bad 😂

    • @Witheredddddd
      @Witheredddddd 9 місяців тому +4

      Poor man didn't even make it out of the elevator

    • @DrkTheNewGuy
      @DrkTheNewGuy 3 місяці тому +1

      Bro only had 1 line too 😂

  • @basedchad534
    @basedchad534 Рік тому +602

    I think every cod game needs to have heavy skill based matchmaking. To even out the gameplay.

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  Рік тому +42

      Yes, it would be great

    • @Epsilon-18
      @Epsilon-18 Рік тому +14

      Yes, Ramirez too

    • @nebiyuesayas5600
      @nebiyuesayas5600 Рік тому +12

      Same, maybe Ramirez too as one of the Vaqueros

    • @ar1299gaming
      @ar1299gaming Рік тому

      I feel Alex us sandman

    • @holdencross5904
      @holdencross5904 Рік тому +3

      @@alphacodyt I could see them extending the story into more games. MW3 and MW4. I really enjoyed Metal Team and I just found it odd. Whenever we’ve had a chopper there has been a door mounted minigun. If there had been one of those then Metal team would’ve survived.

  • @RevisedGames
    @RevisedGames Рік тому +64

    That spec ops tie in blew my mind honestly you might be on to something there I never thought about it that way. I have always felt the spec ops missions were connected to the main story in some elusive way. Very excellent video!

  • @knightmare1267
    @knightmare1267 Рік тому +151

    I think Frost did kill his teamates, seeing as Overlord names "Metal 0-4" which was Frosts callsign. Also because of how often they tie the main story to the spec ops in this game.

    • @BeanMartinVEVO
      @BeanMartinVEVO Рік тому +24

      Metal 0-4 would be the callsign for the 4th element in the team, not unique to Frost himself. So Team Metal would have Metal 0-1 through 0-4, regardless of who the individual element is

    • @knightmare1267
      @knightmare1267 Рік тому +6

      @Bean Martin VEVO except Cod did it as first number = squad, second number = individual. That's why Price is Bravo 0-6 in the new games. Even on a loading screen you can see that despite being 1 squad, every member of MW3s Delta team has different call signs. Sandman is 0-1, Grinch is 0-2, Truck 0-3, and Frost 0-4.

    • @goldenhedgehog9
      @goldenhedgehog9 Рік тому +23

      @@knightmare1267 The loading screen has them listed all as Metal zero 1 through 4. Metal 0-4 is only Frost's callsign because he is the 4th member of the team. If he was moved to a different team and someone else took his place, Frost doesn't take that callsign with him, the new person's callsign is becomes Metal 0-4.

    • @kengiro0599
      @kengiro0599 Рік тому +2

      I think it was just a oversight by the developers

    • @Xen0411
      @Xen0411 4 місяці тому

      ​@@goldenhedgehog9maybe overlord assign him to this mission like he as a juggernaut collecting radioactive sample solo mission

  • @DylanoRevs
    @DylanoRevs Рік тому +34

    Down the Rabbit hole would've been better if we got to play as Frost.

    • @tomaxxghost6891
      @tomaxxghost6891 Рік тому +14

      If we actually changed trough the mission from Frost to Yuri in the middle of the mission

    • @brixenlang3207
      @brixenlang3207 Рік тому +5

      imagine if they could swap perspectives based on a specific part of the mission

    • @frost3193
      @frost3193 Рік тому +3

      @@brixenlang3207 Yup just like the mission "Iron Lady" 2 playable characters and perspectives in one mission

  • @solidNJ
    @solidNJ Рік тому +43

    I've always asked myself that question, but man, he definitely deserved some rest after Hamburg. 😂

    • @ayo_danni
      @ayo_danni 3 місяці тому

      what happened in Hamburg?

    • @ALXAD3
      @ALXAD3 Місяць тому

      ​@@ayo_dannithe door blew up on him sandman landed on his leg a whole building fell on him yeah he definitely needs some rest

    • @ayo_danni
      @ayo_danni Місяць тому

      @@ALXAD3 To be fair bro survived a tank falling through a couple floors

  • @josetomascamposrobledano4618
    @josetomascamposrobledano4618 9 місяців тому +11

    MW3 was a Miracle considering the development.
    If they where given the time, my bet is that YURI would have been an NPC and we would have played as Frost in this mission.

    • @worminaround
      @worminaround 4 місяці тому

      I donno why when I was a kid I kinda liked Frost, maybe his missions were fun af, Yuri was still my fav in the cast,

  • @joshwalker4185
    @joshwalker4185 Рік тому +37

    Theory 2 is actually canon to the story.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships Рік тому +1

      Says who?

    • @HazmattMorningstar
      @HazmattMorningstar Рік тому +22

      @@brawlstarssponsorships Overlord referred to the Operator in Theory 2 as "Metal 0-4" Which is literally Frost's callsign.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships Рік тому +2

      @@HazmattMorningstar Not confirmed by the developers though. Lots of spec ops missions are made just for fun.

    • @HazmattMorningstar
      @HazmattMorningstar Рік тому +24

      @@brawlstarssponsorships Since when did developers have to say something was canon for it to be canon? Going by that logic, nothing in any game is canon unless the developers confirmed it, so like are you telling me no campaign missions in Modern warfare 3 are canon because the developers haven't confirmed it? Or that Shepherd didn't really betray us, or that Ghost and Roach never really died. going by that logic these never actually happened because the Developers haven't confirmed it.

    • @brawlstarssponsorships
      @brawlstarssponsorships Рік тому +2

      @@HazmattMorningstar Ok.

  • @thealex2971
    @thealex2971 Рік тому +45

    Imagine this
    Frost is înjured and waits for his Delta Team to come back but he sees Price with some dogtags

    • @babycarrotz32
      @babycarrotz32 Рік тому +8

      That would make for a badass cinematic/cutscene.

    • @bigcuz4689
      @bigcuz4689 Рік тому +7

      Yeah but impossible to get those tags

    • @charvydeliquina5120
      @charvydeliquina5120 Рік тому +1

      Price come back with Yuri and President without Delta Team

    • @thealex2971
      @thealex2971 Рік тому +1

      @@babycarrotz32 I know
      But lets say someway or alternative cutscene Delta Team give their dogtags to Price (if you ask me making a emotial scene)

    • @ssww3
      @ssww3 Рік тому

      @@bigcuz4689 true

  • @JakvsMetalheads999
    @JakvsMetalheads999 Рік тому +51

    It’s probably just because they didn’t want to go through the trouble of giving him a character model and voice actor for one mission, or have the dissonance and weirdness of him being a silent and masked NPC. Honestly it would have made more sense to have Frost be the playable character in this one, with Yuri as the NPC, since Yuri already had a voice actor and NPC model. I like the theories in this video as in universe explanations though, especially theory 2.

  • @phkwhfogjr5dowjf7xkq
    @phkwhfogjr5dowjf7xkq Рік тому +6

    I dont think that frost was injured because how someone injured from debris from a falling building still act normal like nothing happened like 6 seconds after a damm building falled on his entire squad including him?

  • @brawlstarssponsorships
    @brawlstarssponsorships Рік тому +6

    What a massive dissapoint, he shouldve been there end of discussion theres no "Muh black ice" he should have been there, period.

    • @trckster4617
      @trckster4617 Рік тому +2

      Fr or at least show frost in a heli coming down after black ice

  • @Borealis1907
    @Borealis1907 Рік тому +12

    Good Video My Friend!

  • @nebiyuesayas5600
    @nebiyuesayas5600 Рік тому +7

    My personal head canon (idk if SpecOps are canon but they might be) is that for some reason, Frost got wounded and couldn't partake. After he recovers and learns that Sandman and the other Delta men sacrificed themselves, Price recruits him as a new member of 141. Maybe he has some issues (having lost Soap, Yuri, Roach, Gaz, and the whole betrayal thing), but Frost is a well-trained ex-Spec Force op and it goes well.

  • @Quadro-z6o
    @Quadro-z6o 4 місяці тому +2

    playable characters like frost, Ramirez and roach always treated badly like their existence was ignored😢

  • @vojta0808
    @vojta0808 Рік тому +18

    He was there but who knows.. Hard to say, maybe he wasn't and it is just spec ops mission.. Anyways.. In 2:38 Overlord calls Metal 0-4 and that's Frost which is mentioned in video and that is interesting point.

  • @HazmattMorningstar
    @HazmattMorningstar Рік тому +15

    Theory 1 is stupid because when Frost was "Injured" He was running and walking perfectly fine.
    Theory 2 is actually the correct one.

    • @nastyrodriguez
      @nastyrodriguez Рік тому +2

      You can walk when injured, i fractured 2 ribs when i fell of my dad's bike and walked for a while before throwing up and passing out, adrenaline goes hard.

    • @radthearchopolist2459
      @radthearchopolist2459 Рік тому

      @NastyRodriguez But, cam you keep on running perfectly without limping a bit? I know his Special Forces but it seems impossible for the human body to run perfectly,
      It could be just a developer overlook and we are just delving in too deep.

    • @HazmattMorningstar
      @HazmattMorningstar Рік тому

      @@radthearchopolist2459 You may have a point there, but it doesn't change the fact Theory 2 is the correct one. It's actually canon to the game.

  • @brothertrav9732
    @brothertrav9732 Рік тому +8

    I like to think that he stayed top side with everyone else as the joint team went in, but theory wise I would accept this as the reason why if it was 2 player, if it wasn't then frost is more of a beast than all of them doing that by his lonesome.

  • @ggszerg2
    @ggszerg2 Рік тому +38

    I think the reason why Frost didn't come to this mission is because he didn't want to die or he is taking care of something a mission before that

  • @elcrashito561
    @elcrashito561 Рік тому +9

    The second theory is the most accurate for the simple reason that it is a dlc and that it would not make much sense for Frost to disguise himself as pieces for the mission. In conclusion, Frost is one of the few protagonists they Are alive

    • @willhornsby206
      @willhornsby206 3 місяці тому +1

      spec ops isn't dlc. It's litterally part of the games package.

  • @theonepup8022
    @theonepup8022 Рік тому +7

    This is the question I’ve always asked and wondered

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  Рік тому +1

      Me too :)

    • @ghostwhencodghosts9114
      @ghostwhencodghosts9114 Рік тому

      @@alphacodyt ive been searching for an answer for 10 years i guess cod fans are this braindead that they had nk idea where he was

  • @matrvg
    @matrvg Рік тому +2

    I hope in Modern Warfare 3 Remastered (if there's going to be ever, or at least MW3 Campaign Remastered), they bring back Frost in Down the Rabbit Hole as NPC, or letting us play as him, and leaving Yuri as NPC.
    If they let us play as Frost, Price and Yuri carries us to chopper with the President. Leaving Yuri behind is literally not sensible.
    If we stay as Yuri, Frost (I'm sad) should stay behind with Sandman and others, to protect Yuri, Price and the President. Or Frost comes back in Dust to Dust as NPC with different Juggernaut suit (light armored, its visor is similar as his own) and raising hell upon Oasis Hotel with Price and Yuri.
    Man, my hands are trembling :D

    • @alphacodyt
      @alphacodyt  Рік тому +1

      hope you are well! In my opinion, if they return Frost, the story line may change...

  • @HGJ8Productions
    @HGJ8Productions Рік тому +7

    If COD MW2019 was instead a continuation of COD MW3 I always thought Alex being Frost was a cool concept and that his ‘sacrifice’ in the mission Game Over was to make amends for what happened here.
    The reason I like Alex being Frost is because lore wise Alex was a Delta Force operator who becomes a CIA agent so it kinda lines up with the hypothetical.

    • @senseless_yurei9433
      @senseless_yurei9433 Рік тому +1

      frost and roach are siblings and since i dont think it ever says if alex has brothers while a very cool theroy it just doesnt work yk

    • @HGJ8Productions
      @HGJ8Productions Рік тому +2

      @@senseless_yurei9433 Frost and Roach are siblings? I'm interested to know what you mean by this

    • @senseless_yurei9433
      @senseless_yurei9433 Рік тому +1

      ​@@HGJ8Productions According to google (not some fan page more like his profile page) He has two younger brothers named James Ellison, Gary "Roach" Sanderson, and Danny Ellison.

    • @weplo1597
      @weplo1597 10 місяців тому +1

      @@senseless_yurei9433 But Roach is british or canadian while Frost is american.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 9 місяців тому

      That could be because they are half siblings. We know of real life families that are like that.
      Take Bruce Forsyth, the British game show host. His half brother is the Forsyth from Dynasty, an American, and both detested each other, to the point they never spoke after reaching adulthood.
      Yet, both were said to be really nice men to interact and talk with.@@weplo1597

  • @BronyLord-wo1ym
    @BronyLord-wo1ym 5 місяців тому +1

    "Simple" Frost retired from the force.

  • @alexarenado1207
    @alexarenado1207 Рік тому +3

    It sucks that he wasn't on this mission, such a waste!!!! Come on people would love to see him!!! Just like on that mission where you team up with Sabré and a random NPC called Faucon, they could've done the same with Frost. And actually, Faucon doesn't have any dialogue but he got my respect;), I liked him on that mission
    PD: sorry for my English

  • @alister2755
    @alister2755 Рік тому +5

    I would love to see frost reappear in the future with actual voice lines that gave more depth to him

  • @cacbishop1462
    @cacbishop1462 Рік тому +4

    I've always wondered, but i assume he got injured.

  • @suyengaming
    @suyengaming 9 місяців тому +1

    Most likely, he was W.I.A in scorched earth. Overload would tell frost that the delta team and tf141 would be there, also the fact that overload was also in down the rabbit hole.

  • @JetpacktheSpartan404
    @JetpacktheSpartan404 Рік тому +3

    I imagine Frost would feel so bad about himself and feel guilty when he learns that he unintentionally killed his allies when he hit the self destruct button.
    Also on a another note, why do the Inner Circle have a self destruct button? Did they get it from Dr Doofenshmirtz?

    • @flaggy185
      @flaggy185 Рік тому +2

      Probably because they knew that some day they would be overrun by some army of the government, and they prepared it to kill as many enemies as they could to escape to a new direction
      But then the "minor" assault of the 144 and the Delta force taked place by surprise, they dint have time to organize a retreat or something and the self destruction was activated, killing and destroying the vast majority of the Makarov Army

    • @nomislam9030
      @nomislam9030 Рік тому

      Really, Doofinsmirth?😂😂😂

  • @karacreed0723
    @karacreed0723 7 місяців тому

    Theory 1 is much more likely. Frost is replaced by a minor character who gets instantly killed off in the mission, and in real life fireteams are always reinforced in the event of a casualty, KIA or WIA. As Frost is also callsigned *_0-4,_* there wouldn't be that much of a problem if he was dead, especially since in the first mission of MW3, he is evidently just a grenadier with the fact he carries an XM25 as a secondary there.

  • @Marik7453
    @Marik7453 Рік тому +3

    he was planned and probably we will see him on one of early build of MW3 if they exists

  • @iluvrobux7658
    @iluvrobux7658 2 місяці тому +1

    It's cuz hes a playable character and he wears a mask so he's basically a canon fodder there ya go no need for no bullshit theories

  • @haruseyon
    @haruseyon Рік тому +2

    I don't wanna think Frost killed Metal team. It was just bad timing between everyone, with the enemy overwhelming the rescue team in the last part.

  • @GloriaGrothe
    @GloriaGrothe 3 місяці тому +1

    2:21 Something is missing, Frost needs to rescue the Russian President’s Daughter before self destruction

  • @hinatahyuga9311
    @hinatahyuga9311 3 місяці тому +1

    They were at war it's possible frost was needed else where sure he was part of sandmans team but frost can't be everywhere at once he was needed at a different battlefield

  • @noahbueno2168
    @noahbueno2168 Рік тому +1

    They literally should’ve just added him.. no second thoughts, just put him

  • @cluelesspotato8945
    @cluelesspotato8945 Місяць тому +1

    If Theory 2 is correct, Frost will likely be dealing with the guilt for the rest of his life

  • @Jb21009
    @Jb21009 Рік тому +1

    2024 or 2025 they better have a new modern warfare 3 I wanna know what frost sounds like

  • @FearOfTheDarkS312
    @FearOfTheDarkS312 Рік тому +1

    I really hope we get Team Metal in the MW3 2025 or whatever the fuck

  • @seanwalsh7264
    @seanwalsh7264 Рік тому +1

    I always said if they did mw4 it would be price and frost as survivors dealing with losing their teams

  • @Juicy_wiwi
    @Juicy_wiwi Рік тому +2

    There was dialogue of price talking to frost in the game files. So Frost was supposed to be in this mission but was cut later in the game’s development

  • @stallingset7301
    @stallingset7301 Місяць тому +1

    he did call him metal 0-4, and thats Frost Callsign 2:37

  • @jahimuddin2306
    @jahimuddin2306 Рік тому +3

    I always wondered why Frost was not in this mission. Finally, someone made a video on this decade-long question that I have had. I thought it was because he was injured in action.

  • @ReaperTaskForce
    @ReaperTaskForce Рік тому +2

    If you keep looking down there you can see sandman and grinch both due then truck throws a grenade and he turns back and he doesn't see any of the evac heli and idk what happend after

  • @DarthOminis
    @DarthOminis Рік тому +1

    They should've made Frost playable in the level, but you play as Yuri after the helicopter goes down. And then another spec ops mission sees Frost with the rest of Metal team during the explosions, but after the collapse he wakes up and Truck/ Grinch tells him Sandman and the other teammate is gone, and it becomes a journey to escape the ruins, but the efforts are feeble because a boulder falls onto them after a minute (the level is timed to be 1 minute long after the collapse, like Aftermath in COD4- after you fall from the helicopter the level is on an invisible timer)

  • @manuelgrothe608
    @manuelgrothe608 10 місяців тому +1

    I really vote for a remastered version of MW3(not reboot)

  • @GrandmaPuncher907
    @GrandmaPuncher907 Рік тому +1

    So frost was secretly there and he killed his own team? But frost was doing his job?

    • @ak47toh
      @ak47toh Рік тому +1

      He was partially responsible for the death of Sandman and his team, but not intentionally because they were separated and Frost didn't know they were inside the mine facility. It was after all an order from Overlord and the mine was going to be overrun by the Ultranationalists. But one thing's for sure (after we seen him at Black Ice), Frost is definitely still alive.

  • @szybkiwojtas7895
    @szybkiwojtas7895 8 місяців тому

    0:25
    Director: Mccoy! You are supposed to be dead!
    Mccoy: Okay. (dies)

  • @syndicatepenguin8420
    @syndicatepenguin8420 Рік тому +3

    Imagine if this mission was a lot bigger with the player being able to play as Frost then later as Yuri during the last stand. Though Frost dies with Metal but imagine if the Russian loyalists and Delta force have a joint op, making more sense as the Russians wish to secure their President from Makarov's men

  • @clementwong2124
    @clementwong2124 Рік тому +10

    Man ngl Could frost be a badass guy can't die cus activion deside add him in alot of spec ops mission? even though i try my best to stay back long as i can so i don't the remain delta force team die except frost ofc but the game force you to the blackhawk idk why hope they remake the game where you can safe delta force team

  • @matheusmelisguerrapeixe2330
    @matheusmelisguerrapeixe2330 Рік тому +2

    Theory 2 is super cool and dark and makes sense, sending only one person to set the self destruction while there's a war in their backyard is very smart

  • @Currumpaw
    @Currumpaw 9 місяців тому

    Frost was accidentally told the wrong time to rally at the motor pool. The poor dude was waiting there for hours, thinking everyone else was late.

  • @spartianz3r068
    @spartianz3r068 8 місяців тому

    I read online that frost was injured and sss left to recuperate while his team helped price

  • @SubReikoPy
    @SubReikoPy 6 днів тому

    I always wondered where Ramirez was during the events of MW3 too
    like in the 1st mission cutscene you see that the 75th Rangers are still defending the country but there is no cameo of Ramirez in the game

  • @VampireMilf
    @VampireMilf Рік тому +130

    i think it's simply just an overlook. COD games involve hundreds and thousands of people working on it and it's easy to forget a minor character.

    • @counterman-namreview516
      @counterman-namreview516 Рік тому +93

      i dont think a playable character who player stick with half of the game can be called "minor"

    • @prizrak-br3332
      @prizrak-br3332 Рік тому +36

      They didn't forget the SAS guys from COD4 during the SAS mission in MW3, they wouldn't forget Frost, if he isn't in the mission there must be a good reason for it.

    • @ssww3
      @ssww3 Рік тому +2

      In a game i played as a kid one dev forgot a person in the game so it's possible

    • @Oneiroi0
      @Oneiroi0 Рік тому +1

      @@ssww3 different scenarios.

    • @AmyCherryLMAO
      @AmyCherryLMAO 10 місяців тому

      ​@@prizrak-br3332hes apparently in the spec ops mission that takes place on the same level

  • @emmanueldavis1872
    @emmanueldavis1872 8 місяців тому

    It must be theory 2. Because Frost probably wouldn't even have activated the self destruct if he knew the others were in there. So more than likely, he was given a different mission without being informed of the mission that Price and Sandman was going to do and ended up causing their deaths. Which, I'm sure he would've been wondering where the rest of his team was at this time, but no one would tell him. So they had to have been in different parts of the compound when all of this took place. So... There might've been something bigger going on here than just saving the president on the American side of things.

  • @ryszakowy
    @ryszakowy Рік тому

    he literally says "look out"
    game subtitles say: "look out"
    and your subtitles say "lock out"
    do you even can have speak english
    but no i like to think that frost gets wounded when doors explode and sandman lands on top of him
    makarov's men take president's daughter and frost is no longer combat effective
    it makes him sit this one out and when he comes out of the hospital he learns that entire team is dead

  • @Psy1-1
    @Psy1-1 4 місяці тому

    This actually reminded me of a thing Delta can do which is opt out of a mission if they're 100% "there". Saw an interview on a podcast of a former Delta guy and that made me think Frost opted out since they were already committing so many assets, they couldn't afford to lose all of Delta.

  • @nguyenphuoc4834
    @nguyenphuoc4834 Рік тому +1

    There won’t be a theory that Sandman died due to Frost trigger self-destruct sequence, because it was involve in combat cooperation: Sandman was sent to that mine with his mission is save Vorshevsky and his daughter, but in the same operation Frost was sent to mine control center to trigger self destruct sequence, both Frost and Sandman must have informed that Sandman is in a hostage rescue mission deep inside the mine and Frost won’t do it if Sandman team is still inside, of course command won’t authorise Frost to do so, except command order Frost to do that

  • @kadirhanaltunsoy3290
    @kadirhanaltunsoy3290 Рік тому +2

    Frost was my favorite mw3 character. Playing as frost was just so cool.

    • @UNGOC_Engineer3231
      @UNGOC_Engineer3231 Рік тому +1

      same

    • @Baddy_Aldoc
      @Baddy_Aldoc Рік тому

      For me, He's got The essence of Doom Slayer. Always silent, just doing with actions.

    • @edmondnwamoh6830
      @edmondnwamoh6830 Рік тому

      The truth is I will you want to play as frost in the campaign and online multiplayer

  • @greenth-mac2550
    @greenth-mac2550 5 місяців тому

    Glade to see I am not the only one who wondered this since 2011. Yeah it's a real mystery why the devs decided to not add Frost in this mission, a real shame, always wanted him to be in it.
    On the bright side, Frost got to live. Also, I never got to play this spec ops mission so this is my first time knowing it's real content. I had zero chances to connect the dots.
    Edit:
    3:16 Also, as much it is a memorable and beautiful scene, it IS incredibly ridiculous how not a single enemy shot nor an RPG hit them (except for Sandman in his neck).

  • @WatchFelineSpine
    @WatchFelineSpine Рік тому

    Guys frost is McCoy aka “frost” or “frost McCoy” he gets killed by the rpg in the elevator as soon as the mission begins, sorry for the heartbreaking news, he’s the only npc named “McCoy”