In terms of maps and navigation, it should be worth mentioning that the Fenix 6 pro ties in with the Garmin explore app and you can near-instantaneously get routing information/navigation to any point that you select on the app (so long as you previously downloaded the maps on to your phone). So if you're ever out on a run and didn't preload the route but you're curious to know how much further it is to your next waypoint/summit etc you can get that info super quick. No other brand has anything even close to that
Such a minefield. Very well explained. I was getting bored of waiting for the fenix 7 so thought i'd go vertix 2 but the mapping and the music will make me wait for the fenix 7 - whenever that may be! Feels like an eternity
i'm just feeling wary on fenix 7, because garmin really made a mess for the fenix 6..too many types and prices..fenix 6s,6,6x,enduro..even the 6x has 4 types..6x basic without maps, 6x pro with maps and sapphire, 6x pro solar, 6x pro solar titanium..also the enduro is top battery life but has no maps (they said to conserve battery life but it's suppose to come with a toggle whether you want maps on or off)..so confusing and really feel purposely made like that so we just get the highest model
@@vg3222 I'd highly doubt it. COROS's magic is mainly in part to their dimmer backlight/duller display tech along with just doing less stuff in the background. Garmin's are always processing something (body battery, stress tracking, etc...) But it would certainly be a nice surprise if they somehow managed to beat the Vertix 2 in that department.
As always, awesome video. I think I'm going to hold up till next year for Fenix 7. Thanks for your hard work and effort. It made my decision making very easy. Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Got myself a Coros Vertex 2, and set aside my Garmin Fenix 5x . But, I do feel that the Garmin still the champion, and the Vertex is not lacking behind.. best two brands - Coros does win with battery life.
Awesome review as always. I got my Coros Vertix 2 and I can control my music from the watch playing on my phone. Not very intuitive but you can control volume, skip tracks, play, pause;etc.
The Fenix also does HRV stress test in addition to body battery and stress load. You need to were a hr strap and stand still for 3 min. You find this in the activity profile if interested
Recently I got vertix 2! No doubt even with wrist mettering with no external sensors, chest, strap bla, bla is very nice, n honest.... Dual gps made different from my fenix 6xpro but on the point of checking metadata after the exercise... I was, denying mail in coros California if it s possible to see like in my fenix the name of every city, n road that I mean. Walking real time on the watch n they reply not for the moment because was designed mostly for mountain run or sports in mountains that roads doesn't exist... The local area,maps in my area I downloaded still doesn't appear roads names but the shape n color n appearance of the maps sure is very nice... Hope in future they will add also this capability
i finally jumped in and bought the fenix 6s pro, absolutely love it. still have my garmin instinct too that i use for work as its tougher. the only thing im stuggling with is the music, i cant seem to load up spotify for the watch. anyone else have this issue?
@@ChaseTheSummit when i try to open sotify up on the watch it tells me to open it on my phone but then tells me that i dont have a full version account which is incorrect.
i mean it isnt really of concern as i dont really think i will be using this feature at all that often if at all tbh as i always have my phone with me as i livetrack my runs
Very thorough review as usual. Excellent job covering this comparison. I just bought the 6x after watching a few of your reviews. One thing though, I would actually prefer the MP3 player option. I don't use Amazon or Deezer (or whatever it's called) so I will most likely never use storage for music, just maps. Mapping and echo system was the deciding factor for me. The Coros is still a very nice watch though.
I was using a forerunner 645, and as I don't listen music and the map is not too important to me, I decided to buy a fênix 6 because It has more battery than my forerunner and because of climb pro feature. And the price was really good on Amazon...
very nice review... I know both, Garmin and Coros, are awesome tools. I have the Fenix 6X sapphire and Vertix 2, and it is very hard to say which one is better. The so called dual frequency feature in Vertix 2 is what is calling my attention. The music feature is not that important for me... battery and accuracy are the main features I'mlooking for. So, here's my question: Enduro or Vertix 2? trick question, I know... so, feel free to not answer it at all. Thanks again for your review.
Enduro vs Vertix 2 is a really close call. The Garmin ecosystem brings a lot to the table but the COROS Vertix 2 has more features for the same, or less price tag. Truth is I don't think you'd be dissapointed either way.
Great video as usual. It would be more interesting to know how accurate wrist base hr readings are when you are resting (and sleeping). It is much easier to wear chest strap while running than all the other time. (If watch supports external hr monitors) And it would be interesting to compare: garmin bodybattery vs. Polar’s Nightly recharge. And deeper thoughts about those two ecosystems recovery, training and sleep data.
Nice vid! Interested to know how the sensors compare. Are you seeing consistent readings between the Garmin and Coros for altitude, barometric pressure, pulse-ox etc?
In the testing I've done so far the Altimeter between the Vertix 2 and Fenix were within 10 meters of each other in most cases with similar looking trendlines. In terms of the SpO2 sensor's it's a bit harder to quantify because none of them are perfect. I haven't had great success with any of the wrist worn SpO2 sensors and intend to make an entire video about just that. Hope that helps.
The Veritx from a build quality perspective tops the Enduro. Although they are both titanium bezels, the Vertix uses grade 5 titanium which is way more durable than the softer grade 2 titanium used on the enduro. As for the contrast, sapphire cyrstal affects contrast in indoor lighting. Mineral crystal is less reflective which is why the enduro looks sharper. A fenix with sapphire will look the same as the vertix indoors. Also, less buttons is better in terms of water resistance as there less points of possible water intrusion. Cant go wrong with either but Im a Coros fanboy lol
The Vertix does have great build quality but the display isn’t just due to the sapphire glass. I have a few Sapphire Fenix 6’s and 7’s and all of them have way more contrast and “pop” than my Vertix 2. It’s something to do with the actual displays they use I think. Thanks for watching!
Great Video! really comprehensive. I recently moved to Coros from Garmin with Pace 2 to try their ecosystem out: I am digging the simplicity. I am now thinking of making the move to Vertix 2 given that I need a bit of map support and battery longevity for long trail / hikes. This being said, I puzzled by the Vertix lack of Ant+ and would like to know if this means there won’t be any compatible chest trap heart monitor compatible with it? What about Stryd pod?
Thanks! Actually Stryd Pod and most modern chest straps (Polar H9) connect over Bluetooth low power so you should be fine. The lack of ANT+ will really on effect triathletes or cyclists that have older cycling power sensors and accessories. Hope that helps!
I have been on the same track, waiting for Coros to offer gen 2 of their higher models until ...I found AnT + is no longer supported. The concludes my decision, to live with my Garmin Fenixl
@@Herbridge Thanks for your input... Sticking with the FENIX might be the right choice for you though I guess you must be relying on ANT+ connection quite a bit, right?
Great review. I want to jump into the coros waters, but I need full nav. I love how coros supports and make better their previous models through updates, whereas garmin does the opposite.
@@ChaseTheSummit how is the size compared to 745? I have a very small wrist., currently wearing apple watch 37 size, but the 945lte is a about to get delivered soon but am thinking to not open it and direct sell it due to the size? Any tips?
There's no denying that they've taking some influence from big G! However, I do think that they do bring some different features to the table. For instance, Dual Frequency GPS, ECG, and the absolutely insane battery life. In my eyes competition is a good thing for the end user!
They're both great. It comes down to personal preference and if the navigation on the COROS is good enough for your needs. Personally I prefer the mapping on the Garmin because it's got labels and routeable maps which is quite handy. I enjoy wearing the VERTIX too and I'm assuming with some firmware development it will get even better over time.
Comparing Garmin to Coros is like comparing iOS to Android , one has every customizability and varieties you can imagine and other has limitation and restrictions but it just works. Great video wish you success.
Except Garmin is in no way Apple in this comparison. Garmin is incredibly old school, slow evolving and constrained. I say this even though I am a Garmin user for years. I will jump ship the moment something notably better shows up. Coros so far just got up to the similar level, so it's not enough for me to jump ship yet. Next year however…
Running friends, at the moment where I live (in Europe) Garmin Fenix 6 goes for 400 euros (470 dollars) from the retailer, Do you think it`s a good deal? The price is nice... but it`s 2 years old already and hopefully (maybe) Fenix 7 is around the corner, what do you think?
I have the same "problem". I am looking at the 6X pro for 550€ or waiting for the 7. I think it will be here in a few months max. In my honest personal opinion they will target the christmas holiday season hopefully. However there is a possibility of getting the series 6 and then selling it with a small loss.
Well, they're discounted because the new Fenix 7 is coming sooner than later, I suppose, so the question is, what is your budget? If you can afford 800-900 euros, then I would wait for the new Fenix 7 but if you cannot, new Fenix 7 shouldn't be the factor for your decision. At 400 euros, the Fenix 6 is still a great watch, and IMHO it is still a much better value at 400 euros, and still a better watch than the Coros in most aspects (except for the battery life) for sure.
Great video. The only thing that I don't like from my Fenix 6 Sapphire is the Bluetooth; when I go running or walking, I have to rise my hands up to my chest otherwise, I guess the GPS creates noise on the signal. Otherwise, of course there are things to improve specially in the software, like modifying the watch faces in both Connect App and Webpage, there is a lot to improve with the metronome like following the Bpm depending on the Pacepro strategy set. So happy with my Garmin
@@ChaseTheSummit the interference I'm getting is when I go walking or running and I'm listening to music in my Jabra elite active 75t earbuds which are great ones. I started to go out with my mobile instead
Hi Dave, Thanks again for all the help! I am thinking to get a vertix 2. Please help! If you still have the vertix 2. Could you please help to check if the Hrv measurement give almost same results if test twice in sequence? I don’t like to return the vertix 2 for non repeatable result which is jumping around. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
Dave, Thanks and appreciate ! What is your take on the vertix 2 HRV test vs Fenix 6 24hours stress ? Is the Fenix 6 HRV Stress test with the chest strap is the same type of HRV test with Vertix 2 HRV test? Best, Thanks!
It appears to be quite similar to the Garmin's HRV stress score. Both track the stress reading in their respective platforms (Garmin Connect / Coros App) for historical reference. The obvious benefit to the COROS is that you don't need to wear a chest band to get a reading so you can do it on the go.
Ok but... talking about the ENDURO ... In navigation mode , apart of NO MAPS Can u for example save WAYPOINTS?? Does it have trackback functions ..???? Thanks
Do you think the vertix 2 is enough of an upgrade to over the apex pro? Now that the apex pro is getting maps too later this year I’m just curious if it’s worth the upgrade.
It comes down to a few things. Screen size, battery life, mapping, music, and new user interface (along with niche things like insta360 controls.) if those things seem valuable to you then it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise stick with your Apex Pro.
Enduro rocks but garmin should remove the green accents so the solar panel is thicker and could absorb more light like the instinct....i wish the vertix 2 had solar and the same battery longevity as the enduro in that dual frequency mode
The Vertix 2 actually has longer battery life than the Enduro. Similar in standby/smartwatch mode and up to 140 hours in GPS mode if you opt for "gps only". With these kind of numbers I'm not sure how useful adding Solar would be! The Enduro is certainly nice though!
Thanks for the video..I am interested tio buy the coros vertix 2 because of battery life...Ultra Running...do you know how long is the battery life during navigation...thanks if you know... Greetings from Austria
@Chase the Summit Any thoughts on comparing the Fenix 7 to the Coros Vertix 2? (We all know the likely winner but would be interested in your thoughts)
Dave you cannot compare the crispness of the screen between a watch with Gorilla glass (Enduro) and a watch with sapphire glass (Vertix 2). The sapphire glass by nature absorbs more light than the Gorilla glass and it affects the crispness/readability of the screen. Edit: Excellent and informative video, thank you Dave.
It's not just compared to the Gorilla Glass but even compared to Garmin's Fenix 6 Sapphire the screen on the Vertix 2 is much duller and washed out with the backlight on specifically. In bright sunlight they all look pretty similar. Thanks for watching!
@@RunnerRemRem Garmin doesn't specify but Garmins sapphire is quite durable. I've had multiple Sapphire Garmin's over the years and abused them without ever scratching the glass. My gorilla glass watches scratch 100% of the time. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit my comment is just meant to explain why the Vertix 2 might have a dimmer screen. Sapphire and DLC coating are part of the explanation. I have the Vertix 1, and unfortunately won't get the Vertix 2 because of the large footprint of the watch and the excessive price. Appreciate your great work Dave! Thank you.
@@RunnerRemRem Oh I gotcha. My comments about the dim screen are less about the glass or what it looks like in direct sunlight or good lighting conditions. I'm mainly speaking about the backlight being a bit dim indoors and not having the ability to tweak backlight brightness. Thanks for the kind words!
Accuracy, at least in my times using both the Fenix was much more accurate as far as my distance when running. With my experience I felt the vertix gave me way more miles than I actually did
Various reasons. The Vertix 2 is a simpler device and does a lot less "background processing" the Garmin has a lot more smartwatch functionality that takes more juice throughout the day. The Garmin also has a variable backlight that can be boosted to 100% brightness compared to the Vertix that has a non-adjustable dimmer backlight. Out of the box the Vertix 2 only samples the heart rate sensor every 1 minute during "all day HR mode" while the garmin samples every 1 second which takes much more battery. All of this adds up. The COROS was designed to squeeze every last drop of battery life from the battery while the Garmin is balancing performance and battery.
I got the Enduro about a month ago and loving it. Had the Fenix 5+ before and it's a good upgrade. I wouldn't use the additional features on the 6 and prefer the longer battery life. Wasn't sure if the solar would do much but on a bright day it's noticeable how the battery barely drops. It's not enough to actually charge it, but certainly helps prolong it.
@@ChaseTheSummit for me, it's my HRM-TRI band. It's been working great for years, but I guess that can be an excuse to upgrade to the Pro 😜. However, for my indoor trainers (bike and rower), I have way less dropouts with ANT+ than with BT.
Can’t help think the Coros box is completely over kill, your never going to use it for anything once you got the watch out and plastic for the sake of plastic. Not good.
lack of ANT+ is a bummer for some. I think they needed to do this to make space for some of the new features like dual frequency GPS but I'm not totally sure. That said, the Vertix 2 is still compatible with most Bluetooth sensors.
@@ChaseTheSummit Without offence i believe that info's about "make some space" is totally bs. They not even reveal what unit of gps is inside of that watch. Some of us use ant+ for many years and we invest on that. the joke is they ask 700 euros for a watch that doesn't have all that simple features plus navigation like Garmin. I am not Garmin fanboy but Coros shot their heads with the vertix 2 really.
@@Panagiotis-Skordilis For sure, I don't know exactly why they removed ANT+. I'm just speculating because I would assume they would have included it if it were possible. I'm just guessing that they needed space on the board for additional components like storage chips/additional GPS components but again... a total guess. Truth is the Vertix 2 is targeted at a pretty niche audience in the ultramarathon/endurance world and for those users I think ANT+ may be less of an issue. It's likely more of an issue for users that are Triathletes or cyclists. They've heard the complaints though! So we'll see what happens in the future.
I wouldn't say "not ready". More like "under developed" but I think there's potential and COROS has an excellent track record of firmware updates on older devices.
That's because there's really no clear cut answer as to which one is better. A lot of it comes down to preference, what ecosystem you're already using, Do you like having tons of data or a simpler experience? Is battery life more important than other features? What colors do you like? Etc... etc... It would seem unfair for me to just state "Well this one is better" when that may not be the case for you. In this video I just tried to lay out all of the objective facts as best as I could so you could make an educated decision. I hope it helped!
5:24 "While the Coros Vertix 2 is a little bit blue"..... You realise you are about to repeat history like your old Garmin contrast video as soon as Coros release a non-blue washed out version. Blood is on your hands 😂😂😂😂
That toy allows me to carry nothing with me and I can still buy a coffee with it after my run, neither the G6 or V2 will, in short I can use my watch to pay for the hugely bloated price of the the 6 and the 2. something they can't do.
I don't get like 90% of these features, stress, calories, "battery", that's basic human things if you need watch to measure these you should stop existing or consider walking in to an active volcano. I get that it can track distance and steps, that's great, something you can't actually do, or ECG is also great function. Map, you can't know if you go for an adventure and there's uncrossable river, nice to have a map, that makes sense. If you do jogging under 10km in known area, you need to watch or fitness tracker, if you lazy, sure get just cheap tracker which will help you count pace, the rest is useless information. If you're pro athlete all these metrics will be measured by real medical grade equipment. Damn these phony gadgets and their uselessness are infuriating
It's not a one size fits all situation. Just because you don't need certain features doesn't mean they simply don't have a use case. Personally, I find a lot of value in the Garmin Body Battery metric. It's a great way to plan active/rest days on top of just quantifying "how I feel" in the morning. The good news is if you don't want all of these features there are far cheaper options out there!
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In terms of maps and navigation, it should be worth mentioning that the Fenix 6 pro ties in with the Garmin explore app and you can near-instantaneously get routing information/navigation to any point that you select on the app (so long as you previously downloaded the maps on to your phone). So if you're ever out on a run and didn't preload the route but you're curious to know how much further it is to your next waypoint/summit etc you can get that info super quick. No other brand has anything even close to that
Yup, that's definitely another reason why the Garmin nav features are way more advanced. Thanks for sharing!
COROS has a super easy route function added to the app a couple of month ago
@@LukasD89 unfortunately it doesn't work offline like Garmin explore
Such a minefield. Very well explained. I was getting bored of waiting for the fenix 7 so thought i'd go vertix 2 but the mapping and the music will make me wait for the fenix 7 - whenever that may be! Feels like an eternity
I think there's a lot of people in the same boat!
i'm just feeling wary on fenix 7, because garmin really made a mess for the fenix 6..too many types and prices..fenix 6s,6,6x,enduro..even the 6x has 4 types..6x basic without maps, 6x pro with maps and sapphire, 6x pro solar, 6x pro solar titanium..also the enduro is top battery life but has no maps (they said to conserve battery life but it's suppose to come with a toggle whether you want maps on or off)..so confusing and really feel purposely made like that so we just get the highest model
@@ChaseTheSummit do you think the Fenix 7 will have very comparable battery life to the Vertix 2?
@@vg3222 I'd highly doubt it. COROS's magic is mainly in part to their dimmer backlight/duller display tech along with just doing less stuff in the background. Garmin's are always processing something (body battery, stress tracking, etc...) But it would certainly be a nice surprise if they somehow managed to beat the Vertix 2 in that department.
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for your insight!
Battery life for me is > everything else
As always, awesome video. I think I'm going to hold up till next year for Fenix 7. Thanks for your hard work and effort. It made my decision making very easy. Happy Holidays to you and your family.
I just bought the Fenix 7 doesn't feel and different than the 6 Touch screen is okay, I find myself mostly using the buttons
Got myself a Coros Vertex 2, and set aside my Garmin Fenix 5x . But, I do feel that the Garmin still the champion, and the Vertex is not lacking behind.. best two brands - Coros does win with battery life.
For me,navigating being the focus,Garmin,every day of the week, and twice on Sundays!
It's certainly much more functional on the Garmins
Awesome review as always. I got my Coros Vertix 2 and I can control my music from the watch playing on my phone. Not very intuitive but you can control volume, skip tracks, play, pause;etc.
Really? I don't have that ability. Curious what firmware you're on? I'm on 2.54 . Where did you access your phone music controls?
The Fenix also does HRV stress test in addition to body battery and stress load. You need to were a hr strap and stand still for 3 min. You find this in the activity profile if interested
For sure, I was just highlighting the new ECG sensor in this video. Thanks for sharing!
Great intel on the remarkable accuracy of Coros's GPS and the Enduro's optical HR.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Currently using the Venu Sq, but hope to upgrade to one of these in the near future! As usual, great insight into all the devices!
Awesome! That's a big leap! Thanks for watching!
Yes, you did cover everything. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks... was time fo me to change my Instinct!!! was between Fenix 6 pro, enduro, Apex or sunto 9 baro...... Decided for the Fenix 6 Pro!
Nice!
Recently I got vertix 2! No doubt even with wrist mettering with no external sensors, chest, strap bla, bla is very nice, n honest.... Dual gps made different from my fenix 6xpro but on the point of checking metadata after the exercise...
I was, denying mail in coros California if it s possible to see like in my fenix the name of every city, n road that I mean. Walking real time on the watch n they reply not for the moment because was designed mostly for mountain run or sports in mountains that roads doesn't exist...
The local area,maps in my area I downloaded still doesn't appear roads names but the shape n color n appearance of the maps sure is very nice...
Hope in future they will add also this capability
Yep, that's a big let down on COROS mapping not having road/trail labels. Hopefully they change that in the future!
i finally jumped in and bought the fenix 6s pro, absolutely love it. still have my garmin instinct too that i use for work as its tougher. the only thing im stuggling with is the music, i cant seem to load up spotify for the watch. anyone else have this issue?
Nice! Enjoy it! What part of the process with spotify is giving you issues? I actually have a tutorial video on this channel on how to load music.
@@ChaseTheSummit when i try to open sotify up on the watch it tells me to open it on my phone but then tells me that i dont have a full version account which is incorrect.
i mean it isnt really of concern as i dont really think i will be using this feature at all that often if at all tbh as i always have my phone with me as i livetrack my runs
Very thorough review as usual. Excellent job covering this comparison. I just bought the 6x after watching a few of your reviews.
One thing though, I would actually prefer the MP3 player option. I don't use Amazon or Deezer (or whatever it's called) so I will most likely never use storage for music, just maps. Mapping and echo system was the deciding factor for me. The Coros is still a very nice watch though.
Thanks! You can actually use plain MP3’s on the Fenix by using Garmin Express to upload them to the watch. It’s very simple.
@@ChaseTheSummit
I just found this out after I posted. Thanx for the great coverage of these devices man!
I was using a forerunner 645, and as I don't listen music and the map is not too important to me, I decided to buy a fênix 6 because It has more battery than my forerunner and because of climb pro feature. And the price was really good on Amazon...
Nice!
very nice review... I know both, Garmin and Coros, are awesome tools. I have the Fenix 6X sapphire and Vertix 2, and it is very hard to say which one is better. The so called dual frequency feature in Vertix 2 is what is calling my attention. The music feature is not that important for me... battery and accuracy are the main features I'mlooking for. So, here's my question: Enduro or Vertix 2? trick question, I know... so, feel free to not answer it at all. Thanks again for your review.
Enduro vs Vertix 2 is a really close call. The Garmin ecosystem brings a lot to the table but the COROS Vertix 2 has more features for the same, or less price tag. Truth is I don't think you'd be dissapointed either way.
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks a lot.. just what I wanted to hear. 👍
@@ChaseTheSummit as a crosscountry skier, and climber what is the better one?
Good work as usual!
Thanks!
Great video as usual.
It would be more interesting to know how accurate wrist base hr readings are when you are resting (and sleeping). It is much easier to wear chest strap while running than all the other time. (If watch supports external hr monitors)
And it would be interesting to compare: garmin bodybattery vs. Polar’s Nightly recharge. And deeper thoughts about those two ecosystems recovery, training and sleep data.
Thanks! That's a good point. I guess I test during runs because I typically see the most inaccuracies at higher heart rates and during intervals!
Nice vid! Interested to know how the sensors compare. Are you seeing consistent readings between the Garmin and Coros for altitude, barometric pressure, pulse-ox etc?
In the testing I've done so far the Altimeter between the Vertix 2 and Fenix were within 10 meters of each other in most cases with similar looking trendlines. In terms of the SpO2 sensor's it's a bit harder to quantify because none of them are perfect. I haven't had great success with any of the wrist worn SpO2 sensors and intend to make an entire video about just that. Hope that helps.
The Veritx from a build quality perspective tops the Enduro. Although they are both titanium bezels, the Vertix uses grade 5 titanium which is way more durable than the softer grade 2 titanium used on the enduro. As for the contrast, sapphire cyrstal affects contrast in indoor lighting. Mineral crystal is less reflective which is why the enduro looks sharper. A fenix with sapphire will look the same as the vertix indoors. Also, less buttons is better in terms of water resistance as there less points of possible water intrusion. Cant go wrong with either but Im a Coros fanboy lol
The Vertix does have great build quality but the display isn’t just due to the sapphire glass. I have a few Sapphire Fenix 6’s and 7’s and all of them have way more contrast and “pop” than my Vertix 2. It’s something to do with the actual displays they use I think. Thanks for watching!
Great Video! really comprehensive. I recently moved to Coros from Garmin with Pace 2 to try their ecosystem out: I am digging the simplicity. I am now thinking of making the move to Vertix 2 given that I need a bit of map support and battery longevity for long trail / hikes. This being said, I puzzled by the Vertix lack of Ant+ and would like to know if this means there won’t be any compatible chest trap heart monitor compatible with it? What about Stryd pod?
Thanks! Actually Stryd Pod and most modern chest straps (Polar H9) connect over Bluetooth low power so you should be fine. The lack of ANT+ will really on effect triathletes or cyclists that have older cycling power sensors and accessories. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit That's really helpful, thanks mate ;-)
I have been on the same track, waiting for Coros to offer gen 2 of their higher models until ...I found AnT + is no longer supported.
The concludes my decision, to live with my Garmin Fenixl
@@Herbridge Thanks for your input... Sticking with the FENIX might be the right choice for you though I guess you must be relying on ANT+ connection quite a bit, right?
Great review. I want to jump into the coros waters, but I need full nav. I love how coros supports and make better their previous models through updates, whereas garmin does the opposite.
Not quite there yet with full nav but it's good to see them make so much progress in a relatively small amount of time.
Huh? Isn’t Garmin know for adding features to their older models?
I could be wrong.
Amazing work here buddy, any updates on the forerunner 945 lte? And yeah Subed 🖐🏼
There's been a few firmware updates but nothing that really changes the overall functionality.
@@ChaseTheSummit how is the size compared to 745? I have a very small wrist., currently wearing apple watch 37 size, but the 945lte is a about to get delivered soon but am thinking to not open it and direct sell it due to the size? Any tips?
IMO, Coros is in essence a Garmin KNOCK-OFF.. Great Review, as always…. 🇺🇸
There's no denying that they've taking some influence from big G! However, I do think that they do bring some different features to the table. For instance, Dual Frequency GPS, ECG, and the absolutely insane battery life. In my eyes competition is a good thing for the end user!
@@ChaseTheSummit facts ,mine $$ goes to the best , lol
I am looking for battery and maps - looks like I will wait for the next gen enduro - and hope for the best :) Maybe coros up their map game.
I think they'll get there eventually!
If you had to pick one, Dave, what would you choose? Garmin 6pro or Vertex 2? Sorry for putting you on the spot 😆. Cheers and well done again. Dave.
They're both great. It comes down to personal preference and if the navigation on the COROS is good enough for your needs. Personally I prefer the mapping on the Garmin because it's got labels and routeable maps which is quite handy. I enjoy wearing the VERTIX too and I'm assuming with some firmware development it will get even better over time.
Comparing Garmin to Coros is like comparing iOS to Android , one has every customizability and varieties you can imagine and other has limitation and restrictions but it just works.
Great video wish you success.
In some ways you're right!
@@ChaseTheSummit COROS = APPLE / GARMIN = ANDROID??
Except Garmin is in no way Apple in this comparison. Garmin is incredibly old school, slow evolving and constrained. I say this even though I am a Garmin user for years. I will jump ship the moment something notably better shows up. Coros so far just got up to the similar level, so it's not enough for me to jump ship yet. Next year however…
I really liked the coros, but not having offline Spotify was the main reason I went with Fenix instead
It's a bummer! I'm hopeful they continue to develop the music aspect and hopefully form some partnerships with streaming platforms.
Running friends, at the moment where I live (in Europe) Garmin Fenix 6 goes for 400 euros (470 dollars) from the retailer, Do you think it`s a good deal? The price is nice... but it`s 2 years old already and hopefully (maybe) Fenix 7 is around the corner, what do you think?
You know your needs best, but I wouldn't buy the base Fenix 6, it has no maps. The pro version has them, this is big for me.
I have the same "problem". I am looking at the 6X pro for 550€ or waiting for the 7. I think it will be here in a few months max. In my honest personal opinion they will target the christmas holiday season hopefully. However there is a possibility of getting the series 6 and then selling it with a small loss.
Well, they're discounted because the new Fenix 7 is coming sooner than later, I suppose, so the question is, what is your budget? If you can afford 800-900 euros, then I would wait for the new Fenix 7 but if you cannot, new Fenix 7 shouldn't be the factor for your decision. At 400 euros, the Fenix 6 is still a great watch, and IMHO it is still a much better value at 400 euros, and still a better watch than the Coros in most aspects (except for the battery life) for sure.
Is it the base model? If so, I'd lean towards a Forerunner 945 that's around the same price which has more features! thanks for watching.
@@ChaseTheSummit First of all, great video 👏🏻
And Thanks for advice, also thinking about FR745 or FR945
Great work 💪
Thanks!
Knew it. I knew an enduro vid was coming
Great video.
The only thing that I don't like from my Fenix 6 Sapphire is the Bluetooth; when I go running or walking, I have to rise my hands up to my chest otherwise, I guess the GPS creates noise on the signal.
Otherwise, of course there are things to improve specially in the software, like modifying the watch faces in both Connect App and Webpage, there is a lot to improve with the metronome like following the Bpm depending on the Pacepro strategy set.
So happy with my Garmin
That's interesting. I've never head an issue with the bluetooth connection for heart rate sensors. What sensor are you using?
@@ChaseTheSummit the interference I'm getting is when I go walking or running and I'm listening to music in my Jabra elite active 75t earbuds which are great ones. I started to go out with my mobile instead
Hi Dave, Thanks again for all the help!
I am thinking to get a vertix 2. Please help!
If you still have the vertix 2.
Could you please help to check if the Hrv measurement give almost same results if test twice in sequence? I don’t like to return the vertix 2 for non repeatable result which is jumping around.
Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
I just ran the test 4 times and got the following: 80, 87, 84, 86. So... Not dead on accuracy but within the ballpark. Hope that helps.
@@ChaseTheSummit Dave, Thanks x 1000000! Truly appreciate ! Order one! I hate the Garmin chest strap which take 3 mins to test.
Battery life and GPS accuracy are most important considerations for me, which both favor Coros.
Yep, I'd go COROS in that case.
@@ChaseTheSummit I did! Arriving Friday. 🙂
@@DarklingThrush Are you satisfied with your Vertix 2?
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
GF7 I think coming soon. Will be interesting device. But I still think coros better. I'm using apex pro, so I think it's best watch in price 500.
We're all waiting!
Dave,
Thanks and appreciate !
What is your take on the vertix 2 HRV test vs Fenix 6 24hours stress ?
Is the Fenix 6 HRV Stress test with the chest strap is the same type of HRV test with Vertix 2 HRV test?
Best, Thanks!
It appears to be quite similar to the Garmin's HRV stress score. Both track the stress reading in their respective platforms (Garmin Connect / Coros App) for historical reference. The obvious benefit to the COROS is that you don't need to wear a chest band to get a reading so you can do it on the go.
@@ChaseTheSummit Dave, Thanks and appreciate ! Yes, Coros has a benefit of no chest band !
Ok but... talking about the ENDURO ...
In navigation mode , apart of NO MAPS Can u for example save WAYPOINTS?? Does it have trackback functions ..????
Thanks
Yes. Both waypoints and trackback are available on Enduro.
@@ChaseTheSummit appreciate your response... ;))
Thanks
Do you think the vertix 2 is enough of an upgrade to over the apex pro? Now that the apex pro is getting maps too later this year I’m just curious if it’s worth the upgrade.
It comes down to a few things. Screen size, battery life, mapping, music, and new user interface (along with niche things like insta360 controls.) if those things seem valuable to you then it's worth the upgrade. Otherwise stick with your Apex Pro.
Enduro rocks but garmin should remove the green accents so the solar panel is thicker and could absorb more light like the instinct....i wish the vertix 2 had solar and the same battery longevity as the enduro in that dual frequency mode
The Vertix 2 actually has longer battery life than the Enduro. Similar in standby/smartwatch mode and up to 140 hours in GPS mode if you opt for "gps only". With these kind of numbers I'm not sure how useful adding Solar would be! The Enduro is certainly nice though!
@@ChaseTheSummit true that...and yes enduro seriously is a beast....thanx for the great video comparison...keep it up
Thanks for the video..I am interested tio buy the coros vertix 2 because of battery life...Ultra Running...do you know how long is the battery life during navigation...thanks if you know...
Greetings from Austria
Navigation doesn't seem to have a huge impact on battery life. I'd say expect to lose maybe 5-10%?
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks...watch should arrive in two days...very excited!!!!😊
Nice job Dave!
Thanks!
@Chase the Summit
Any thoughts on comparing the Fenix 7 to the Coros Vertix 2? (We all know the likely winner but would be interested in your thoughts)
Yep, stay tuned!
I don’t know the likely winner, do you?
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@@vg3222 Yeah sure :))
Dave you cannot compare the crispness of the screen between a watch with Gorilla glass (Enduro) and a watch with sapphire glass (Vertix 2). The sapphire glass by nature absorbs more light than the Gorilla glass and it affects the crispness/readability of the screen.
Edit: Excellent and informative video, thank you Dave.
It's not just compared to the Gorilla Glass but even compared to Garmin's Fenix 6 Sapphire the screen on the Vertix 2 is much duller and washed out with the backlight on specifically. In bright sunlight they all look pretty similar. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit the Vertix 2 has a DLC coating on the sapphire glass. Do you know if the Fenix 6s sapphire has it?
@@RunnerRemRem Garmin doesn't specify but Garmins sapphire is quite durable. I've had multiple Sapphire Garmin's over the years and abused them without ever scratching the glass. My gorilla glass watches scratch 100% of the time. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit my comment is just meant to explain why the Vertix 2 might have a dimmer screen. Sapphire and DLC coating are part of the explanation. I have the Vertix 1, and unfortunately won't get the Vertix 2 because of the large footprint of the watch and the excessive price. Appreciate your great work Dave! Thank you.
@@RunnerRemRem Oh I gotcha. My comments about the dim screen are less about the glass or what it looks like in direct sunlight or good lighting conditions. I'm mainly speaking about the backlight being a bit dim indoors and not having the ability to tweak backlight brightness. Thanks for the kind words!
Just so you know- Amazon songs download in MP3 format, so the Vertix can play them.
I’ve got a whole video coming about this! Thanks!
Was that gps track shown from the Vertix 2 the standard one or dual frequency
Dual Frequency in this example but even in “all on” mode it’s pretty darn good!
Garmin for sure I feel it’s more accurate
If you're referring to gps then the fenix series is far from accurate.
In which regard? Thanks for watching.
Accuracy, at least in my times using both the Fenix was much more accurate as far as my distance when running. With my experience I felt the vertix gave me way more miles than I actually did
Have you compared Vertix 2 vs Suunto 9 peak yet?
Nope, it's on my list though.
Good job 😊 👍🏻
Thanks!
Surely Garmin about to release the next iteration of the Fenix?
Your guess is as good as mine 🤷♂️
The prices are coming down! That’s a good sign of a new release, with all things!
What watch face is on the Fenix 6 in the thumbnail?
It’s the stock Enduro face but I believe it’s also available on Connect IQ.
Finally big guns
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Garmin for me , I love their customer support
Nice! COROS has pretty solid support as well and it's also nice that they offer a 2 year warranty versus the 1 year from Garmin.
Trustpilot says otherwise 1.6/5 is very bad😂
The battle of the goats! 🐐🐐🐐
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Waiting for Garmin to bring out the ultimate new 7 51mm sapphire. I
Maybe someday!
Why is it that the battery life of the Garmin is so much less?
Various reasons. The Vertix 2 is a simpler device and does a lot less "background processing" the Garmin has a lot more smartwatch functionality that takes more juice throughout the day. The Garmin also has a variable backlight that can be boosted to 100% brightness compared to the Vertix that has a non-adjustable dimmer backlight. Out of the box the Vertix 2 only samples the heart rate sensor every 1 minute during "all day HR mode" while the garmin samples every 1 second which takes much more battery. All of this adds up. The COROS was designed to squeeze every last drop of battery life from the battery while the Garmin is balancing performance and battery.
@@ChaseTheSummit Hmmm interesting. Can the Garmin be configured to change the heartrate sensor sampling?
Still a Garmin guy. Competition is getting close, but not yet
Thanks for sharing!
I thought I was gonna be all about the Vertix 2. But I'm thinking about the Enduro more and more.
They’re both pretty awesome!
I got the Enduro about a month ago and loving it. Had the Fenix 5+ before and it's a good upgrade. I wouldn't use the additional features on the 6 and prefer the longer battery life. Wasn't sure if the solar would do much but on a bright day it's noticeable how the battery barely drops. It's not enough to actually charge it, but certainly helps prolong it.
Unfortunately the Coros does not have ANT+, which is a dealbreaker for me.
That’s certainly an issue for some! I’m curious what ANT+ sensors you use regularly?
@@ChaseTheSummit for me, it's my HRM-TRI band. It's been working great for years, but I guess that can be an excuse to upgrade to the Pro 😜. However, for my indoor trainers (bike and rower), I have way less dropouts with ANT+ than with BT.
@@ChaseTheSummit HRM Belt and the old speed and cadence meter of my old edge 1000.
Can’t help think the Coros box is completely over kill, your never going to use it for anything once you got the watch out and plastic for the sake of plastic. Not good.
It's a wow factor thing... I'll find some uses for it. But yeah, I wish it was $30 cheaper instead of including a crazy box!
Coros Vertix 2 is actually water proof to 15atm, or 150 meters, which is 50% better than the Garmin!
Good catch! It's also more resistant to extreme hot/cold temperatures.
i still can't believe vertix 2 missing ant+. I was ready to buy it until i realize that bs about ant+ and some navigation features....
lack of ANT+ is a bummer for some. I think they needed to do this to make space for some of the new features like dual frequency GPS but I'm not totally sure. That said, the Vertix 2 is still compatible with most Bluetooth sensors.
@@ChaseTheSummit Without offence i believe that info's about "make some space" is totally bs. They not even reveal what unit of gps is inside of that watch. Some of us use ant+ for many years and we invest on that. the joke is they ask 700 euros for a watch that doesn't have all that simple features plus navigation like Garmin. I am not Garmin fanboy but Coros shot their heads with the vertix 2 really.
@@Panagiotis-Skordilis For sure, I don't know exactly why they removed ANT+. I'm just speculating because I would assume they would have included it if it were possible. I'm just guessing that they needed space on the board for additional components like storage chips/additional GPS components but again... a total guess.
Truth is the Vertix 2 is targeted at a pretty niche audience in the ultramarathon/endurance world and for those users I think ANT+ may be less of an issue. It's likely more of an issue for users that are Triathletes or cyclists.
They've heard the complaints though! So we'll see what happens in the future.
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Price will drop just stop buying garmin for a year ok
Ha, that would be a bold move!
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Coros = not ready and too expensive. Swim tracking is also way off.
I wouldn't say "not ready". More like "under developed" but I think there's potential and COROS has an excellent track record of firmware updates on older devices.
@@ChaseTheSummit I know what you mean. As a swimmer though, I was mightily disappointed with the first Vertix so it has deterred me for life.
is it just me or it's really annoying when reviewers tell me it's up to me which is better after watching a 30 mins review
That's because there's really no clear cut answer as to which one is better. A lot of it comes down to preference, what ecosystem you're already using, Do you like having tons of data or a simpler experience? Is battery life more important than other features? What colors do you like? Etc... etc... It would seem unfair for me to just state "Well this one is better" when that may not be the case for you.
In this video I just tried to lay out all of the objective facts as best as I could so you could make an educated decision. I hope it helped!
Enduro is a completely new engergy saving platform, nothing similar to fenix 6x...
It's almost identical to a fenix 6X though lol.
Omg
omg! 😱
5:24 "While the Coros Vertix 2 is a little bit blue".....
You realise you are about to repeat history like your old Garmin contrast video as soon as Coros release a non-blue washed out version.
Blood is on your hands 😂😂😂😂
lol! Had I known what that first video what have sparked!
Tattoo in Greek ?????????
Yep! In memory of my mom.
Samsung's Galaxy 4, way less money and way more bang for the buck and wayyyy better looking and nicer functions via the classic rotating bezel.
Designed for an entirely different person though. You're not going to get 140 hours of GPS activity and routable offline maps on the Galaxy Watch 4.
GW4 is a toy in comparing to these watches...I mean its not even close!
That toy allows me to carry nothing with me and I can still buy a coffee with it after my run, neither the G6 or V2 will, in short I can use my watch to pay for the hugely bloated price of the the 6 and the 2. something they can't do.
@@BadMedizin Cool! Make sure you bring charger with you...
I don't get like 90% of these features, stress, calories, "battery", that's basic human things if you need watch to measure these you should stop existing or consider walking in to an active volcano.
I get that it can track distance and steps, that's great, something you can't actually do, or ECG is also great function. Map, you can't know if you go for an adventure and there's uncrossable river, nice to have a map, that makes sense.
If you do jogging under 10km in known area, you need to watch or fitness tracker, if you lazy, sure get just cheap tracker which will help you count pace, the rest is useless information. If you're pro athlete all these metrics will be measured by real medical grade equipment.
Damn these phony gadgets and their uselessness are infuriating
It's not a one size fits all situation. Just because you don't need certain features doesn't mean they simply don't have a use case. Personally, I find a lot of value in the Garmin Body Battery metric. It's a great way to plan active/rest days on top of just quantifying "how I feel" in the morning. The good news is if you don't want all of these features there are far cheaper options out there!