these videos are cool because if youre in a frankfurt train/ubahn station as a german you are usually more focussed on not getting robbed, stabbed, and making sure you're not stepping on someone geeking on the floor
I've been living here 7 years and using the U-Bahn system almost daily but knew almost nothing you told. Very informative and I am amazed how beautiful and interesting this city can be if you go through it with "open" eyes rather than me just going from A to B
Given that Bockenheimer Warte station was built in the 1980's, I have feeling that those vaults for the museum were more meant to protect against (nuclear) bombs than they were meant to protect against natural disasters. We have to remember, the Fulda Gap leads to Frankfurt.
Not that part. The U4 uplink from Hauptbahnhof passing Senckenberg Museum was realized in the late 1990s. The older 1984 part of the station is the upper level with the eastbound and westbound U6/U7 lines.
You could think so, because there were many of these bunkers around here in the 80's many of them have been sold or just torn down by... no, I don't want to say it! The closest complex is the old Goethe-University. It's more likely they would have used the bunker to store things of scientific value, like in a time capsule. Believe me. Back then no one wasted time on post-apocalyptic scenarios. We knew: all but the evil men were going to die, in case of a nuclear war. AND: it was a time, where everyone wanted to show, how advanced they were. So they stuffed this retro train in the asphalt to show the advancement of technology. The same motive continues downstairs, if you pay attention. 😉
There is another mural at the Messe, commissioned to celebrate the twinning of Frankfurt and Toronto since 2021. Frankfurt is represented as an eagle, whilst Toronto is represented as a raccoon.
i study here :p. our computer science department is due to move to riedberg (but it has been "due" for years and nothing of note has been done as of now), the campus and university library are still open though and i still go there for lectures
Nice video, thanks. The station "Leipziger Straße" is even cooler with the stacking. There is a hole in the upper platform, with a bit of luck you can see both trains at the same time. And you can ride the glass elevator from street level right through the B-Level and the first platform to the second platform.
As someone born and raised in Frankfurt I really enjoyed this video! The library at Bockenheimer Warte is still in use though, I just returned some books for my studies there some months ago
I am at Bockenheimer Warte almost every week, and I never noticed the cushion. This just made me realize, how much I phase out in day-to-day activities, losing awarness for me little beauties in my surroundings.
Completion of the U4 section from Bockenheimer Warte to the Hauptbahnhof was delayed for several years when ground water seeped in. Some sections of the "U-Bahn" also run overground and only go underground in the inner city area. Some U-Bahn lines also replaced existing Strassenbahnlinien, e.g. from the Bockenheimer Warte to the Hauptwache - faster but less scenic.
One of the entrances to the city tunnels ("Industriehof") is still connected to the tram lines on a now defunct track from tram line 16 (turning to Bockenheimer Warte) passing by Frankfurt West.
@@RickDeckard6531 The track from Industriehof goes to Hausen (now U6) and Praunheim (now U7). They separate shortly after they surface near Industriehof. When I went to school, these ends were the other way around. They kept their respective other end (Enkheim, Ostbahnhof) though.
@@nicolasblume1046 It's a U-Bahn in the sense of U-Bahn. A documentation with one of their longest employed drivers said the U stands for "Unabhängig" as in "independent of other road vehicles". The upper arms of U1-3 and U8 have train like bars at their outer city crossings.
Yes, do make more like this one. I especially enjoyed this one. I lived in Frankfurt/Hoechst from late 1961 to early 1963. It was fun to visit the modern version of familiar locations with you.
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Aw, nostalgia... I used to live near Miquel-/Adickesallee, often taking either bus or U-Bahn to the Computer Science Campus (Bockenheimer). Thanks for the video!
Thank you. I visited Frankfurt for a few days in 2017, staying opposite the main railway station - and total missed the fact that there was an U-bahn system. I may have domestic blindness.
I love this kind of stuff! Please do more. My favourite thing as a traveler is noticing the little details, not the grand spectacles. The religious icon was is an excellent example of this.
I've been following for 14 years! I never thought I would see my student dorm in one of your videos while sitting inside it. I love how you shared this very unknown information about the Miquelallee-Tunnel and how it's actually a "Bauvorleistung" vor the planned underground Autobahn
The U4 tunnel has more stations like this. The crossing lines (Bockenheimer Warte, Konstablerwache, Hauptwache, Willy-Brandt-Platz) also all are built on two levels. On Hauptwache and Konstsblerwache even the regional commuter trains have their stops parallel to the U-Bahn.
When I was a child, I always wanted to live down there. That was even before Ninja Turtles were a thing! 🤣Damn shame, I never learned to use spray cans properly...🤫
That was amazing Andrew, great and interesting information. But that ending too! I was about to click away but then the music started and just stopped dead and couldn't believe my eyes! For about 10 seconds 😆Well done and thank you!
Love this kind of video you are doing. I was only once in Frankfurt and wanted to visit again soon (I live in Munich so not that far and easy by train), with this kind of quirky tips I have even more motivation to go 😊.
This's a nice video. As an expat I enjoy finding out these kind of hidden nice things. (last week I've finally visited Aschaffenburg's arsch and found it using your video)
Another interesting fact I was surprised you did not mention: The pedestrian tunnel at Miquel-/Adickesallee has lots of space behind those panels, and in the 90s, raves took place there ( yes, officially permitted by the city!) They were quite the event.
@@mertenbohn5952 Frankfurt is "mostly" looking like a hellscape - either its a drug hellscape, a banking sector - hellscape, a downright "dirty place" or a hellscape of criminality. Thats no "opinion" - these are facts and everyone knows it. "But", apparently there are a few local residents of Frankfurt who live in complete bubbles of fantasy and there also are a few hired PR people on the internet who spread BS about this horrible city.
@@ololh4xx Ever been here for other reasons than to refill your drug supply? It's all in the eye of the beholder. You can still move back to the Taunus, if you don't like it. You may interpret our junkies as dirt, for us, it's the first line of defense against gentrification!
Vorschlag: Ein Beitrag über "U-Bahnhof Niddapark" (U1 und U9). Ansonsten: Großartige Arbeit, Andrew. Ja, und eine ausführliche Betrachtung der Geschichte "Drei vershiedene Bahnsteighöhen normalisieren" wäre auch spannend. Suggestion: An article about "Niddapark underground station" (U1 und U9). Otherwise: Great work, Andrew. Yes, and a detailed look at the story of "normalising three different platform heights" would also be exciting.
Just returned from a July 2024 trip to Frankfurt, sadly most of these lines I used during the 80-90’s working at the Abram’s complex are all under renovation currently.
Good video, but I was initially drawn to it because of the thumbnail. I thought the video would be about the Rossmarkt subway station near the Hauptwache, which housed a techno club from the 1990s to the early 2000s. The station had closed earlier and was later reopened as a club and bar.
The "Polzeipräsidium" is just an appendage, and was only added, when the Frankfurt Police Headquater was completed. The actual name is still Miquel-/Adickesallee. Colloquially the locals call the station just Miquel.
I moved away from Frankfurt over a decade ago but I remember spending many of my teenage nights out at an U-Bahn styled club. U60something? Can't quite remember. Wonder if it still exists.
If you don't rememer it: that was due to the club. And no, it has been closed several years ago. No loss, depending on who you ask. Parts of it are home to the "Electronic Music" "Museum" now. Just follow the trail of pills....
not sure if it's difficult to reach from Aschaffenburg, but Kassel, a city that is also in Hesse, has a very stark contrast of the city centre, which is a hub for modern art and its remaining historical buildings like the UNESCO heritage site Bergpark WIlhelmshoehe, just like Frankfurt. I personally think It might be a good city for another destination video.
All people I knew, that were from Aschebersch ended up at the HBF, starting mostly with a Guitar, that they later sold for "Schore". There still are exceptions.
Everytime I see people dance in the Höhenstraße U-Bahn Station (which has been before the release of Tik Tok, mind you) it's more a group of teenagers using it to practice modern dancing, since they can see each other in the mirrors). That is also where the 'group size' part comes in, since too many of them would disturb passengers from entering or exiting the station comfortably, I think. So I wouldn't say it's because of Tik Tok. It's just a really convenient place for dance practice outside of a studio :).
1:00 It also seems to be unuasualy clean for me, but I only had to use the U-Bahn systems in Stuttgart so far. I only use the S-Bahn, ICE and Bus or I just walk
I mean, the whole U-bahn system in Frankfurt is quirky with its stretches in the middle of the road and in the street, with indicators on the train cars.
Even in Hamburg and Pinneberg when digging tunnels..... We had St. Barbara and we had women as Patin. BTW also the digging machine were named with female names.
You can dance if you want to! You can leave your friends behind. 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.
Miquel is the Catalan version of Michael, is Johannes von Miquel related to Catalonia in some way or is it just a quirky coincidence? Searching through Wikipedia, I found that he came from a French family that emigrated during the French revolution, his family could be originally from Northern Catalonia.
According to the German Wikipedia, the family had been living in Cahors since at least the 17th century. I'm not entirely sure, but I think Miquèl is one of the variants of the name in the Occitan language as well, and that would've been spoken in that region at the time. So while it's not impossible that the family moved there from Catalonia at some point, I'd probably first assume Occitan ancestry. :)
The limit on when you can use the mirrors as the background for dances is so wonderfully German, thanks for sharing that
I don't understand, zis is just reasonable, isn't it? What is so special german about zis?😉
*clears throat*
Wo kommen wir denn da hin, wenn wa dat nich machen?
Rewboss slowly turning into the German version of Geoff Marshall and I'm all for it.
these videos are cool because if youre in a frankfurt train/ubahn station as a german you are usually more focussed on not getting robbed, stabbed, and making sure you're not stepping on someone geeking on the floor
exaggerating much?
@HaeliX yes i am what are you gonna do about it
I’m born and raised in Frankfurt and thanks to you I learn new things!
Mein Beileid
I've been living here 7 years and using the U-Bahn system almost daily but knew almost nothing you told. Very informative and I am amazed how beautiful and interesting this city can be if you go through it with "open" eyes rather than me just going from A to B
Given that Bockenheimer Warte station was built in the 1980's, I have feeling that those vaults for the museum were more meant to protect against (nuclear) bombs than they were meant to protect against natural disasters. We have to remember, the Fulda Gap leads to Frankfurt.
genau!
Not that part. The U4 uplink from Hauptbahnhof passing Senckenberg Museum was realized in the late 1990s. The older 1984 part of the station is the upper level with the eastbound and westbound U6/U7 lines.
You could think so, because there were many of these bunkers around here in the 80's many of them have been sold or just torn down by... no, I don't want to say it! The closest complex is the old Goethe-University. It's more likely they would have used the bunker to store things of scientific value, like in a time capsule. Believe me. Back then no one wasted time on post-apocalyptic scenarios. We knew: all but the evil men were going to die, in case of a nuclear war. AND: it was a time, where everyone wanted to show, how advanced they were. So they stuffed this retro train in the asphalt to show the advancement of technology. The same motive continues downstairs, if you pay attention. 😉
Having museum/library vaults in or near U-Bahn tunnels... what could go wrong?
Hold my Kölsch😂🎉
True, but we don't tend to dig more holes, than we need, around here. 🤣😜
There is another mural at the Messe, commissioned to celebrate the twinning of Frankfurt and Toronto since 2021. Frankfurt is represented as an eagle, whilst Toronto is represented as a raccoon.
You had me so excited thinking you were going to dance 😄. Vielen Dank, Andrew!
finally a Geoff Marshall video about the U-Bahn in Frankfurt 😀
😂
I came straight after his video 😂
or Jago Hazard 😄
@@annabelhollandor both. No Charles Tyson Yerkes on sight, though 🤔
@@Mainyehc That does make me wonder who the German @CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial equivalent is...
i study here :p. our computer science department is due to move to riedberg (but it has been "due" for years and nothing of note has been done as of now), the campus and university library are still open though and i still go there for lectures
No I didnt think you were going to dance BUT I would have enjoyed it even more!!
Nice video, thanks. The station "Leipziger Straße" is even cooler with the stacking. There is a hole in the upper platform, with a bit of luck you can see both trains at the same time. And you can ride the glass elevator from street level right through the B-Level and the first platform to the second platform.
As someone born and raised in Frankfurt I really enjoyed this video!
The library at Bockenheimer Warte is still in use though, I just returned some books for my studies there some months ago
I am at Bockenheimer Warte almost every week, and I never noticed the cushion. This just made me realize, how much I phase out in day-to-day activities, losing awarness for me little beauties in my surroundings.
Completion of the U4 section from Bockenheimer Warte to the Hauptbahnhof was delayed for several years when ground water seeped in. Some sections of the "U-Bahn" also run overground and only go underground in the inner city area. Some U-Bahn lines also replaced existing Strassenbahnlinien, e.g. from the Bockenheimer Warte to the Hauptwache - faster but less scenic.
One of the entrances to the city tunnels ("Industriehof") is still connected to the tram lines on a now defunct track from tram line 16 (turning to Bockenheimer Warte) passing by Frankfurt West.
@@migga86 Is that the track from Industriehof to Hausen? I haven't been down there for many years.
That's why it's actually not a U-Bahn, it's a Stadtbahn
@@RickDeckard6531 The track from Industriehof goes to Hausen (now U6) and Praunheim (now U7). They separate shortly after they surface near Industriehof. When I went to school, these ends were the other way around. They kept their respective other end (Enkheim, Ostbahnhof) though.
@@nicolasblume1046 It's a U-Bahn in the sense of U-Bahn. A documentation with one of their longest employed drivers said the U stands for "Unabhängig" as in "independent of other road vehicles". The upper arms of U1-3 and U8 have train like bars at their outer city crossings.
Thank you for your nice little subway-guide through my Frankfurt ! 🦅
Yes, do make more like this one. I especially enjoyed this one. I lived in Frankfurt/Hoechst from late 1961 to early 1963. It was fun to visit the modern version of familiar locations with you.
Aw, nostalgia... I used to live near Miquel-/Adickesallee, often taking either bus or U-Bahn to the Computer Science Campus (Bockenheimer). Thanks for the video!
That was really interesting. Thanks for the video, rewboss!
Great video! More like it, please!
Thank you. I visited Frankfurt for a few days in 2017, staying opposite the main railway station - and total missed the fact that there was an U-bahn system. I may have domestic blindness.
I love this kind of stuff! Please do more. My favourite thing as a traveler is noticing the little details, not the grand spectacles. The religious icon was is an excellent example of this.
I did indeed enjoy this video, and would watch many more like it.
I've been following for 14 years! I never thought I would see my student dorm in one of your videos while sitting inside it. I love how you shared this very unknown information about the Miquelallee-Tunnel and how it's actually a "Bauvorleistung" vor the planned underground Autobahn
I gotta say, as a Frankfurter you pronounced some complicated names very good
Shame, he didnt visit Intzestrasse! 😜 Or Auf dem Trip...
Not a civil engineer, but I too would have rather seen more about the stacked rail lines than that piece of art.
The U4 tunnel has more stations like this. The crossing lines (Bockenheimer Warte, Konstablerwache, Hauptwache, Willy-Brandt-Platz) also all are built on two levels. On Hauptwache and Konstsblerwache even the regional commuter trains have their stops parallel to the U-Bahn.
This is like a mix between a Geoff Marshall video and a Tim Traveller video - love it! 😀
I demand a dance demonstration!
Miquel-/adickesallee, meine Station 😊
Wonderful video!
I spent ridiculous amount of time in Frankfurt U-Bahn a couple of years ago - and it’s great to learn about more reasons to visit.
When I was a child, I always wanted to live down there. That was even before Ninja Turtles were a thing! 🤣Damn shame, I never learned to use spray cans properly...🤫
Bockenheimer Warte m- ost interesting entrance
6:53 This reminds me on the Montreal station "Charlesvoix", where the tracks are equally stacked. This is a quirk there.
It's so weird to see the the U-Bahn stations where I am almost every day, in a rewboss video.
Genuinely intriguing video of an absolutely beautiful country. And what a dance floor! Danke @rewboss.
That was amazing Andrew, great and interesting information. But that ending too! I was about to click away but then the music started and just stopped dead and couldn't believe my eyes! For about 10 seconds 😆Well done and thank you!
And the Police station is built where the Px/Commissairy use to be, as well as the Topper club.
Aha, a fellow former service member?
There is still an old blocked tunnel leading into the basement of the police headquarter, but I won't tell anyone!!!😈
this is fantastic. i know all these stations and still learned a lot :)
Love this kind of video you are doing. I was only once in Frankfurt and wanted to visit again soon (I live in Munich so not that far and easy by train), with this kind of quirky tips I have even more motivation to go 😊.
enjoyed the video, thank you for the pleasent small documentary
I remember that station from the Resident Evil movie
Which station?
Sorry I should have said, Bockenheimer Warte
@@LuminalSpoon Ah. Wait... it featured in the movie? Time for me to give Resident Evil another watch. Has been years.
"Well, this is, after all, Germany". Perfect!
Oh thats neat video! it has surprisingly many informations that are new to me! Thank you rewboss!
Definitely going up on /r/frankfurt! :D
Yes, more videos about public transport, please. 😊
Really cool stuff! 🔥🔥🔥
I'm in FFM for 12 years now and didn't know a couple things here.
Excellent, I really enjoyed this. More of the same please!
"Nach der Benutzung wird der Dancefloor wieder ordentlich hinterlassen" Most German sentence ever
This's a nice video. As an expat I enjoy finding out these kind of hidden nice things. (last week I've finally visited Aschaffenburg's arsch and found it using your video)
Yes, I honestly did think that. I was worried.
I just want to let you know that I enjoyed it and I wouldn't mind if you maybe make some other like that!
Amazing
Another interesting fact I was surprised you did not mention:
The pedestrian tunnel at Miquel-/Adickesallee has lots of space behind those panels, and in the 90s, raves took place there ( yes, officially permitted by the city!) They were quite the event.
5:30 those rescued stone carvings are beautiful! Danke Actually, all the artwork is dazzling! Dance? You bet!
Frankfurt actually not looking like a complete hellscape in this is some great filming work!
That's just like, your opinion, man
And mine
@@mertenbohn5952 Frankfurt is "mostly" looking like a hellscape - either its a drug hellscape, a banking sector - hellscape, a downright "dirty place" or a hellscape of criminality. Thats no "opinion" - these are facts and everyone knows it. "But", apparently there are a few local residents of Frankfurt who live in complete bubbles of fantasy and there also are a few hired PR people on the internet who spread BS about this horrible city.
Nope, it's just not showing all the BILD-Zeitung locations AGAIN! Life here's pretty normal, for people used to live in cities...
@@ololh4xx Ever been here for other reasons than to refill your drug supply? It's all in the eye of the beholder. You can still move back to the Taunus, if you don't like it. You may interpret our junkies as dirt, for us, it's the first line of defense against gentrification!
Love your videos!
Ich muss mir unbedingt mal die neue Altstadt ansehen ;)
Lass es, is überteuerter fake. Spannend wird es erst wieder ab " Little Mannheim"!
Thanks, Andrew. Great vid. Cheers.
Coming to underground art, I recommend a tour of the Stockholm Tunnelbana.
Actually, takes a lot to beat the Mexico City metro.
Vorschlag: Ein Beitrag über "U-Bahnhof Niddapark" (U1 und U9). Ansonsten: Großartige Arbeit, Andrew. Ja, und eine ausführliche Betrachtung der Geschichte "Drei vershiedene Bahnsteighöhen normalisieren" wäre auch spannend.
Suggestion: An article about "Niddapark underground station" (U1 und U9). Otherwise: Great work, Andrew. Yes, and a detailed look at the story of "normalising three different platform heights" would also be exciting.
Just returned from a July 2024 trip to Frankfurt, sadly most of these lines I used during the 80-90’s working at the Abram’s complex are all under renovation currently.
I didn't know that I needed to know that 😉😊
Good video, but I was initially drawn to it because of the thumbnail. I thought the video would be about the Rossmarkt subway station near the Hauptwache, which housed a techno club from the 1990s to the early 2000s. The station had closed earlier and was later reopened as a club and bar.
The amount of major U-Bahn stations named after major police stations is amusing.
The "Polzeipräsidium" is just an appendage, and was only added, when the Frankfurt Police Headquater was completed. The actual name is still Miquel-/Adickesallee. Colloquially the locals call the station just Miquel.
@@1989Nihil And, the Polizeipräsidium used to be somewhere else - just beyond the Mainzer Landstrasse on the way to the Messe.
Great video, very interesting
02:08 Tell us more about the vault dwellers.
I moved away from Frankfurt over a decade ago but I remember spending many of my teenage nights out at an U-Bahn styled club. U60something? Can't quite remember. Wonder if it still exists.
If you don't rememer it: that was due to the club. And no, it has been closed several years ago. No loss, depending on who you ask. Parts of it are home to the "Electronic Music" "Museum" now. Just follow the trail of pills....
I enjoyed this video.
lovely video!
Top! 👍🏾😎 Danke 🙂
🏅 nice and informativ video, thank u Andrew.
I wonder if Jago Hazard watches this channel. I think he would be intensely intrigued by this eclectic collection of historical factoids.
not sure if it's difficult to reach from Aschaffenburg, but Kassel, a city that is also in Hesse, has a very stark contrast of the city centre, which is a hub for modern art and its remaining historical buildings like the UNESCO heritage site Bergpark WIlhelmshoehe, just like Frankfurt. I personally think It might be a good city for another destination video.
All people I knew, that were from Aschebersch ended up at the HBF, starting mostly with a Guitar, that they later sold for "Schore". There still are exceptions.
I used to frequent Höhenstraße station a lot. I can confirm, very popular with dancers and TikTokers.
I liked this video
7:48 yes :-)
5:00 In Bergbaugegenden haben auch Protestanten ihre Heilige Barbara.
The tunnel saint is placed there because of the crossing underneath the river Main, iirc.
Everytime I see people dance in the Höhenstraße U-Bahn Station (which has been before the release of Tik Tok, mind you) it's more a group of teenagers using it to practice modern dancing, since they can see each other in the mirrors). That is also where the 'group size' part comes in, since too many of them would disturb passengers from entering or exiting the station comfortably, I think.
So I wouldn't say it's because of Tik Tok. It's just a really convenient place for dance practice outside of a studio :).
Way better than the airport 😜
1:00 It also seems to be unuasualy clean for me, but I only had to use the U-Bahn systems in Stuttgart so far. I only use the S-Bahn, ICE and Bus or I just walk
I live there, I saw my house in the video. Well, I want to move to Netherlands even more now. Frankfurt is depressing.
keep it up ... this is great :-)
I thought he would show something like the Dorian Gray beneath Frankfurt Airport. 🤪
I mean, the whole U-bahn system in Frankfurt is quirky with its stretches in the middle of the road and in the street, with indicators on the train cars.
That's why we try to get rid of the roads, too!
Nice video.
Is there a hidden hint for an upcoming Video about the Riederwaldtunnel? xD
Yess, please!!!
And a nice little drink on the Berger Straße to end the video. Do they still serve Jever at the place behind Rewboss?
5:53 Nächste Station: Kobstablerwache!
DRNNZ DRRNNZ DRRRNNZ! Dr-dr-DRNZ! DRNZ! 🎧 Unn des heist "Copstapler"!
Even in Hamburg and Pinneberg when digging tunnels..... We had St. Barbara and we had women as Patin. BTW also the digging machine were named with female names.
You can dance if you want to!
You can leave your friends behind.
'Cause your friends don't dance
and if they don't dance
then they're no friends of mine.
Nice, thanks! 🙂
0:20 that looks to me like a classic railway coach, not a tram. Perhaps more American than European.
0:30 I've read Dom/Römer as Dom / Döner lol
Still happens to me, too. And I'm local! 😂👍
Da war ein Mehr-Eis-Plakat von Volt...
You can't use the phrase "bringing something into the [fill in appropriate century] century" without adding "kicking and screaming"!
Why does it have to be dragged kicking and screaming? Can't it, just once, be led gently by the hand?
...to paraphrase Terry Pratchett.
Which Frankfurt?
I know I know I kid.
Some years ago some friends and me travelled to the East....
Locals: Where you're from?
We: Frankfurt.
Locals: Oder?
We: Oder WAS, Lan!? 🤣🤫
Looks much better in the Video, than in reality.
Also doesn't smell in the Video, so that is a good plus.
Frankfurt without the smell, is just half the tour. You're free to go, if you don't like the steam of our..
More train videos please
4:15 did I hear 'scythe' of the river? :D
Miquel is the Catalan version of Michael, is Johannes von Miquel related to Catalonia in some way or is it just a quirky coincidence? Searching through Wikipedia, I found that he came from a French family that emigrated during the French revolution, his family could be originally from Northern Catalonia.
According to the German Wikipedia, the family had been living in Cahors since at least the 17th century. I'm not entirely sure, but I think Miquèl is one of the variants of the name in the Occitan language as well, and that would've been spoken in that region at the time. So while it's not impossible that the family moved there from Catalonia at some point, I'd probably first assume Occitan ancestry. :)
@@varana Makes sense, Occitan is the closest language to Catalan, a lot of things in Occitan are the same as in Catalan.
I thought it was about Mamma Mia behind you