How Modern Art Caused World War I (Enlightenment and the World Wars Series part 11)
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- In this video, we examine how the Enlightenment led to the supremacy of subjective experience over objective reality, and how this societal attitude contributed to World War I. We also conclude our study of how the Enlightenment caused World War I by examining the widespread rejection of the moral authority of the Church.
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I suggest the camera pushed painters into “Impressionism.”
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Can I just 'correct' you on something please? The ballet you mention at 23/24 mins in, is called The Rite Of Spring. It is a singlular rite, not plural. Igor Stravinsky wrote the music, and the original choreographer was the famed ballet dancer Vaslav Nijinsky (famed for his amazing leaps). The ballet troupe was Sergei Diagalev's Ballet Russes.
Apparently the first performance of The Rite Of Spring caused the audience to actually riot. It was very disturbing. I did not know that they followed that with joyful anticipation of the war that was to be called World War 1.
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With what you say about those pushing for subjectivity over objectivity, it points to the contradiction that those who push for subjectivity tend to be the same people who say "trust the science" when science is purely objective. In the end, the same people who accuse others of being "science deniers" are themselves the true science deniers.
Also I am only partway through this, but I am really hoping for a reference to the line from Full Metal Jacket "you are so ugly, you could be a modern art masterpiece" :)
Exactly.
"It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."
Richard P. Feynman
Whereas religion depends entirely on, "faith," which is the complete and uncritical acceptance of anything at all no matter how inane, insane, self contradictory or just plain silly.
Very enlightening. One thing I would disagree with is that there actually were many world leaders who wished to prevent war - mostly Christian monarchs. Many of the Generals seemed to commit outright treason in ignoring the orders of their kings and emperors because they themselves were war hungry. Yet the monarchs would have looked weak if they called out their generals too much on this, and so they were somewhat forced into war once it was too late.
Some believe that these Generals and other military leaders were part of a secret society who desired war because it would be easier to reorder society in their own making. The Christian monarchs stood in the way of "progress" in their eyes. Considering that the majority of monarchies seized to exist post WWI, there might be some truth to that conspiracy theory.
Blessed Karl of Austria spoke out against chemical weapons and tried very hard to restore peace even after the war broke out. And even though the German emperor was painted as the worst in WWI, he actually did more than most to try and prevent the war. Likewise he kept offering partial surrender later on in the war - but his enemies would only accept "unconditional surrender" - something unheard of in those days.
Very true and grounded take, there is no doubt that many wanted war, just as we see now, not to mention the global finance cabals, and of course, non-christian jewish “elite” as well as nominally christian, masonic, and atheistic members of the ruling and business classes, who as you said, desired to destroy what remained of Christian society. They got their wish over the two world wars, and what a society we live in. Gott mit uns.
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I remember reading somewhere that art was “liberated” after the invention of photography because in early times art- portraits, landscapes, etc.- was used to capture a realistic, permanent image, but once photographs took over this function, artists were “free” to use their craft for more imaginative pursuits. While agree that abstract or modern art is generally ugly and often pointless, I do think art can be more than a faithful reproduction of reality. I’m not in a position to say what art should be, but I will say I prefer realistic art, or maybe mildly abstract, like Impressionism.
I couldn't agree more. I came across a poem by one such artist, Guillaume Apollinaire, in which calls Pope Pius X the "most modern European" and gloats of tabloid newspapers and murder mystery novels holding more attention than christiainity. What a catastrophe that time was.
«August 26, 1880. Birth in Rome of Wilhelm-Albert-Włodzimierz-Aleksander-Apolinary Kostrowicki , Polish subject of the Russian Empire who emigrated to France in his late teens and adopted the name Guillaume Apollinaire
Served as an infantry officer in the french army in World War I
March 1915, Apollinaire leaves for the front
March 17, 1916, Apollinaire was wounded in the temple by a piece of shrapnel from which he would never fully recover. He was trepanned on 10 May 1916 and then began a long convalescence and was declared definitively unfit to campaign in the armed forces
9 novembre 1918, the war-weakened Apollinaire died of the Spanish flu at the age of 38»
This is a great video. However, Rene Descartes did not really distinguish things into "certain" and "not certain". Rather, he focused on something called "clear and distinct" ideas particularly in the Sixth Meditation and the Principles of Philosophy. God's essence being existence is clear and distinct meaning God's existence is inseparable from His essence. But while the pain when I stub my toe is clear to me in that it is immediate and draws all my attention, I cannot determine whether the pain is a part of my body and was transferred from the object I stubbed my toe with, or whether it's merely in my mind. My favorite philosopher Leibniz took Descartes's "clear and distinct" method and applied it to how souls reflect the spiritual world. While he didn't write much about art, harmony and order were central to his metaphysics and we can only see this harmony and perfection in proportion to the number of clear and distinct ideas we have. So I do not think that Descartes deserves blame for the subjectivity in modern art. In fact, his "clear and distinct"' method guards against irrational emotions etc. Descartes termed the emotions "passions" because they make the mind passive to the external world while the mind is "active" in that it grasps clear and distinct ideas. Spinoza wrote a lot about the emotions using Descartes's framework. If anyone deserves the blame, I think the philosopher most influential on the emphasis of subjectivity is Immanuel Kant. Kant's contemporary, Alexander Baumgarten founded the study of aesthetics (aesthesis meaning sensations in Greek) and treated it as an objective science so to say that was worthy of philosophical study. However, Kant followed David Hume in saying it merely came down to taste but added innate ideas into the mix.
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I would love to get the full version of the Ave Maria chant with which your video starts. I have searched on you tube for that particular chant but just couldn't find it. Please send or post the link for the Ave Maria with which your video podcast begins. Thanks and God bless.
I really appreciate and enjoyed your video. I look forward to seeing more.
The discussion about AH around the 30 minute mark makes no sense. He wasn’t a modernist painter; that’s the entire reason his art school applications were rejected. The third Reich was also an enemy of experimental German art of the time, so to suggest that he took power by exploiting modernist subjectivity doesn’t follow.
15:04 missing the point of their question
Everyone will have a slightly to not-so-slighty different EXPERIENCE of the color orange, even if all the detectors and everyone agrees that it's color is orange.
This is the 'word definition" fallacy, as each person has slight different (or not so slightly) definitions of the exact same words.
This fundamental problem was once of the impetus to create objective material sensing apparatus, so that we could measure independently at least SOME of the phenomenon. Even if the measurement is the same, the subject experience of that will always be unique for all time in that moment.
Interesting as Queen Christina of Sweden converted to Catholicism after she invited Descartes to her homeland.
Your understanding of many important parts of the history of ww2 and the combatants and personalities at play is incomplete.
Still, within the confines of your understanding of the events as presented here, your conclusions are logical and good. Great video, I look forward to more content.
Very interesting.
The Blessed Mother told the 3 children of Fatima that World War I was caused by desecration of the Lord's Day and sins against marriage.
Def in the mix
You're partially mixing up La Sallette with Fatima. In either case, sin is always the cause of why God allows these terrible calamities to fall onto mankind. It can still be beneficial to recognize the individual factors that led to it.
@@vivacristorey4363 Until mid-1800's, 80% of population were illiterate, so philosophies did NOT control their behaviors. Bad behaviors precede bad philosophies.
@@francikeen Literacy is not the only way something is learned. Many looked up to the nobility who were the ones most often more vulnerable to learn bad philosophy, and would imitate them. Also, philosophy can be passed by word of mouth. Everyone has philosophy behind their behaviours because it is what forms every worldview.
Bad behaviours do lead to bad philosophies. However, creating bad philosophies and spreading them is in of itself a bad behaviour so there is some overlap. Likewise, an innocent person can be easily misled by bad philosophy if not well formed and then begin living badly.
@@vivacristorey4363 Now TV,, radio and movies can spread bad examples. But few tv don't shows push philosophies. They promote bad morals. Nobility did not start reading and writing until c. 1400. Nobility were warriors, not philosophers. Bad philosophies did not cause bad behavior. Wea l faith and bad morals - and bad example - cause bad behavior. Philosophy is am elite hobby. Most educated people pay no attention to Nitche, et. al.
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Riveting lecture! Thx so much for your insights. I’m curious if you considered the contraptions of the Inquisition when you articulated about immoral technologies and how the scientific and technological revolutions were “intrinsically neutral” despite being guided by the intelligencia of the dark ages who were predominantly clergy?
My understanding is that Hitler was de facto against “modern arts“ and even had a art rejecting and looking at the foolishness of contemporary artist. As far as I saw, Hitler’s art was more about scenery and architecture than it was about some abstract art. Can someone confirm or deny?
I've looked at Hitler's art. For the most part it is pretty anemic. Except for one painting. Adolf Hitler's moon and seascape painting. Now I consider that a surreal masterpiece. It broods as a painting. One of his contemporises H.P.Lovecraft wrote, What the Moon Brings. "I hate the moon-I am afraid of it-for when it shines on certain scenes familiar and loved it sometimes makes them unfamiliar and hideous."
@@ZarathustraMG42-qo7oj yes. So this video creators assumption that his paintings were somehow representative of ‘enlightenment’ ideals is wrong. Hitler wanted to destroy revolutionary communist & liberal ideas (free love, drugs, degeneracy) & abhorred the Weimar Republic.
@@coryabbate9587 I know I'm tying this with Lovecraft. But I do see the vision Hitler had of the world with a lens of horror. Except he didn't put those feelings into art. They became his creed against modernism and action to destroy it.
Jesus has taken arguments and criticism and fussing for 2000 years...often to the benefit of Christianity. But the Enlightenment is a Sacred Cow we dare not question. It just can't take it. The Dark Ages being horrible is another Sacred Cow. There are some in modern Christianity though as well since the 1400s in every church...all reaction and little positivity.
It is even more sad how German Jews who fought and earned an iron Cross from Germany in WW1, were discarded when the subjective morals of the nation turned them into the scapegoat
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You might want to search the expression 'Dieu le veut' 25:46
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Chapter headings please .I can't find chapter 1
Bro is pointing out a lot of symptoms of the same thing and saying “look how this cause ww1”
Lesser known was Rene s brother Sam DesCartes- an alcoholic; he said "' I drink, therefore i am not ""
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Bruh, you gonna seriously believe in the sacred six m?
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How Modern Art Caused World War I is significantly different to Enlightenment led to the supremacy of subjective experience over objective reality
In any case - I disagree since the enlightenment did not lead to the supremacy of the subjective experience. That was the consequence of Romanticism.
Romanticism was an emotional rejection of both reason & logic. The rise of Marxism & the Left can be traced all the way back to the rise of such Romanticism.
Lest you forget - it was an anarchist that fired the fatal shots that triggered the bloodbath of WW1. And as you know - Anarchism arose out of the realm of Romanticism
The two pictures at 42:00 still lack something in my opinion. I have not grounded in art theory, but to me they are still ugly. I am not saying that it is not possible for a contemporary Catholic artist to produce something of beauty, but it is so rare. I remember seeing a beautiful modern church and thinking something like "I hope that no modern Catholic artists find out about this church as they will ruin it". There were some simple but beautiful wooden statues of the Virgin Mary and the Saints from Italy, particularly the apparitions at Fatima as that was the name of the church, Our Lady of Fatima. Otherwise there was a beautiful combination of paint and marble. I cannot say why I thought it was beautiful, but it was. Somehow there is a difference between that type of art and the two objects shown at 42:00. Has anyone also had a similar experience?
The one of our Lord was not to my taste, but it lacks order because the colors weren't blended. The one of the Holy Spirit was more interesting as it does communicate aspects of the Spirit as we have seen in Scripture
This is just sad. Either this person is ignorant of art history and history in general, or they are constructing a deeply disingenuous argument in order to elevate Christian dogma. I'd say the latter is true, which is essentially lying for god. This is geared for those who have a weak grasp of the past but a passion for religious supremacy. Quite sad.
@@MichaelWalker-de8nf I would encourage you to check out the video.
Interesting thesis. Absolutely bonkers!
Great video!
While I agree that the Dada Art Movement is disgusting and degenerate, are you implying that there is something bad about All Quiet on the Western Front being the personal story of a soldier, rather than focusing on the big picture of the battles? Great Artists had been writing psychological personal novels for centuries, Jane Austin and Dostoevsky are just the first two that come to mind. Why should it be a bad thing for there to be a personal story about soldiers?
Hitler came to power because he offered people what they actually wanted. You can't properly explain Hitler without explaining why people voted for him and what platform he ran on. I challenge you to actually listen to one of his speeches in the mid 1930s, not just censored clips of him shouting. It's also funny (and a shame) that you lump in Hitler with the art subjectivists, but don't show any of his paintings. I invite you to actually find some online.
The drug epidemic and sexual revolution are both results of modern Liberalism. Fascism opposes both these social cancers.
A wave & a Particle ..Art does not cause wars art are the waves of discontent capture by the artist and expressed on a form that contradicts oppression the artwork justifying liberation from oppression as the past is oppression Breaking the past becomes liberation the future. however, the particle side of the artwork functions as a balance ⚖ correcting the mistakes of human evolution using art as means of communication. making the mind learn by his mistakes repetition exist as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different result which is idiocy ..!!! today Breughel..ARTIST.. the blind leading the blind makes more sense in 2024 than in 1568 The Blind Leading the Blind, Blind, or The Parable of the Blind
Colossians 2:8 warns against listening to these people.
Historia, when you insist on parroting the same lies and historical narratives around an important figure or event, even by just a moment, your entire story is cast into doubt. Especially so when you are so utterly petty about it.
So WWI was enthusiastically enjoined because all the men craved the adrenaline rush? 🤯
Btw I can't stand Descarte's "famous quip". What goes through the mind of a child with _DOWN'S SYNDROME?_ Ask him, if his soul is in heaven (because he was a Catholic).
Can God be evil?
No!
@@shanebrown2009 why not?
This might be the most misguided, illogical theory ever proposed.
Austria and Serbia were the 2 main culprits for war. Both Catholic nations. 2nd Germany and Russia. 3rd France and u.k.
Serbia is not a Catholic nation. While the Austrian Hungarian empire was multiconfessianal
@@shanebrown2009 correct my bad