I have a genuine question about the mob thing: I've seen it happen as a 10-year + employee of corporate companies that you get wrongfully terminated with a bullshit excuse that makes it legal, they force you to take the "settlement", sign your resignation when everyone knows they're firing you. There's absolutely NO way a regular employee could take the "due process" route to fighting back at this situation. They would bury you in a legal process that would take AGES and you'd be broke by the end of year. Not even talking about what that could do to your career in terms of people talking about you being "problematic" and all that. I'm with Dean on this and feel conflicted on where's the line because to some you might feel like a "disgruntled employee" but you could actually be just exposing a bunch of bad things that happen somewhere that the "due process" is just never gonna expose.
9:00 best thing I ever did was switch to davinci resolve the AI tools for making depth maps, rotoscoping, and cutting out dead audio inlong takes is insane. They also have automatic subtitles and soo much more
I've been off Adobe for like 5-6 years now. It was when they raised the price from like 40 a month to like 46. I was already feeling weary at 40 a month the price raise was the last straw saw yall pumping up Resolve and got the free version and instantly was able to get back to my workflow within a couple of hours. Sure had to remap hot keys on my mouse but that's nothing compared to the weight Adobe put on my back.
man i've been watching you guys and your videos for about 13 years and it's just really cool to see the crew and by extension friends you've all made along the way. so many people that were influential on my life in a way. much love
Worked 7 years using Maya, 2 years ago I used the couple of months I had between jobs to try out blender thinking it would be a slow transition and there would be a period where I'll use both. Sure there were moments where I was just wishing i had my old buttons but I have never opened maya again unless it's to export my older work to USD or FBX. This also made me realize how much the tools tend to take a lot of focus from creators away from the actual art, switching tools reminds you in a weird way that your not a button pusher but artist. So glad i'm out of autodesk's grip but I still have tons of my work that I cannot open legaly unless I subscribe again to Autodesk, same thing will happen with all my .PSDs and .AEs once i'm out of their grabby paws.
God damn, I really appreciate both the intellect and emotional intelligence on display here. First "Cast" I've listened to, but I wager it'll be the first of many
Whistle blowing isn't synonymous with mob justice. Going through due process is expensive, and against a multimillionaire usually impossible for your average person. You must be about the avenues people actually have available to them.
Yes. Boeing engineers tried to bring attention to their managers and were ignored every time they brought it up to the people above them until there was no-one left. At that point it is a systemic failure within the company and only government intervention can solve it.
Absolutely, I would consider whistleblowing part of due process. It's not the same thing as mob justice. Rallying people's anger with emotionally manipulative narratives and selective truths is what I consider the rally of a mob. To have justice you need to seek the WHOLE truth, impartially. And if someone is profiting off the attention and anger, it crosses a line for me. -Niko
@@corridorcastYeah I couldn’t disagree with Niko more. Saying you want the WHOLE truth is like saying you want unbiased news media… there is none and is in fact impossible. Dogpack is doing the best he can and is going about it with great care. Non-monetized, vetted by his lawyer(s), and keeps his videos are very straight with information with minimal jokes. Instead of thinking about it as mob Justice, think about it as something akin to protesting the government.
@@stevenwhoward87 He's criticizing mob justice and getting facts wrong while doing the same thing demonizing dog pact with wrong information about him.
is dogpack or whatever getting subs? if you can't have unbiased media, does that mean you shouldn't still strive for it? don't whistleblowers get attention because they're whistleblowers, not the other way around?
For that basketball idea, where Niko thought about passing a ball around to himself you might be able to do some sort of spin on the old basketball "selective attention test" by Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris.
+1 to shooting miniatures. Especially ships, sets and destruction - shooting miniatures absolutely ups the realism compared to the same amount of time in CG. Things get really exciting when you shoot multiple passes with different lighting and then blend between them in post. Or blend between the model and photoscans of the model. You can even 3D track the model and use the 3D model as a mask.
One of the things I say when we do HR briefs at work is "People aren't bastards, for the most part." By which I mean most people aren't out to get you, or out to hurt you, or out to screw you over. People don't think about the impacts they have on those around them. If someone did something out of line, they probably didn't realize it was out of line. If someone was rude, then it's probably not because they hate you. If someone forgets to send a payment, it's probably not because they're trying to screw you. They're living a complicated life and things get missed. Obviously there're caveats to this, but broadly speaking I think it's true. Another great line is "never attribute malice what can be explained by incompetence". Definitely isn't an excuse, but some people make it seem like every injustice in the world is part of someone's master plan, which it almost never is.
hearing that these guys switched to DR is honestly reassuring. truly awesome piece of software. bought the studio version sometime last year and haven't looked back.
37:30 I think part of the problem that you all are kinda dancing around is 1) often regulatory agencies don't do anything until there is public backlash (like back in the day when people would have to get their story in the local news before anything happened.) and 2) (even if unfounded) A lot of people have lost faith in traditional journalism, so now they try to get that public backlash from the internet.
A great example of your second point is a short video item about Mr Beast that was published yesterday by the state media in my country. They only mentioned him testing the boundaries by doing more extreme stunts and questioning if his filantropy might not be as altruistic as it seems. Nothing about the allegations about the extremely toxic culture at his company, nothing about the allegations of him hiring known sex offenders, nothing about the allegations of rigging his gameshows, nothing about them adding gambling elements to their products marketed towards children and so on... I was quite dumbfounded.
I think the elephant in the room that isn't being discussed about Mr Beast is that UA-cam as a site has shifted it's priorities towards exploity content and it has been this way for years now. Remember when the top UA-camrs were just people and not entire companies? Remember when the exploity channels were mocked instead of celebrated? Yeah there were issues with that too because people aren't perfect, but I think the current popular content is basically just trashy reality TV. It has become very common for top UA-camrs to hide their real persona from the audience and become a highly manufactured person. I do feel that the site used to have some genuine people at the top who simply aren't favoured anymore. Keeping people glued to the screen is the end all be all of UA-cam these days and that is how we got Mr Beast.
The portals in a room concept is really fascinating to me because I came up with a D&D adventure that takes place in an 'infinite time loop' city, that is basically EXACTLY this concept. Its a city that exists on a floating island, and someone made a portal that leads 100 years into the future on one side. As a consequence, there is a portal on the other side that leads 100 years into the past (which is the same portal, its just the same city 100 years separated in time). I watched your whole short and it didn't even occur to me until watching THIS PODCAST that it was the same exact concept as my city! Anyway, the fun part of the D&D city in this case (I named it OverUnderTime or OUT City, how strange how similar that is to your concept about escaping a box!) is that the city has an expansion in physical space up to its limit (the size of the floating island) but once it reaches that maximum, it can then expand physically through *time* as well. When it expands through time, it simultaneously makes use of more physical space as well (you can have a section of the city that has no blacksmith, but maybe there are plenty of blacksmiths through the portal in +100 years portion of the city). Anyway, its a really fun concept to explore. D&D is really hard to play a fun game with time travel involved unless your players are ok with not trying to abuse and break the system, but with this city concept my goal was to allow them to break time like that... do things like send themselves a message in the past telling them how to beat the bad guys, or where the treasure is hidden, stuff like that. So inherently that would make it a very silly story, but silly D&D games are quite fun too. :D
The whole concept of the portal video with the time travel twist still makes my brain hurt a little lol. ( Side note: Sooooo happy the podcast is back! )
Journalism is not the same thing as a mob. Mr Beast hired a RSO to work on a show targeted at children. If the facts were in dispute, Beast would already be disputing them. Journalism and free speech have historically served a purpose that the courts cannot, which is to highlight and bring attention to issues like this. The courts in fact are often used as a weapon against the person pointing out the wrongdoing, like Logan Paul suing Coffezilla or like Mr Beast is now trying to do.
I disagree hard with Niko but there's some glaring assumptions and fallacies with what you are saying. There are no facts yet. Almost everything is word of mouth or talking about what they experienced or heard. Next to none of it has been documented. This is where the discovery phase of a court case comes in. Mr Beast absolutely does not have to comment on it. The only thing that is compelling him to do so is the expectation that UA-cam call outs and accusations (most of which are never taken further) have set up.
Didn't dog give a former employee of Mr. Beast a platform to get his trauma out there? Like, the guy in the vid was like "screw a nda im gonna get my story out there because people should know and i want to get it off my chest" and he detailed and truly horrifying experience. Which calls into question things doesn't it? Seems like an L take Niko. Not cause you're wrong, mob justice isn't normally if ever moral and it isn't "true justice" whatever that means. But i fail to see how thats valid if a mob leads to the proper channels being alerted. Because part of the allegations are about some intense suppression thats been going on. (whoodie fucking doo who couldve guess that was happening in this multimillion dollar youtube based company run by Some Guy) I fail to see how your point applies to this situation and this story of this mans horrible abuse. Is it because he didn't say allegedly? Im not trying to belittle you're point but thats exactly what you are doing when it comes to this former employees experiences. You are discounting and belittling his experiences in favour of taking some sort of high road? and calling out that mob justice is bad? and then you say that people that critique or call logan paul a bad person/evil just as bad as logan? Which...is acknowledging that he is in fact a bad person, but then calling people that call him that equally bad? Or just the people that "do it for clicks". Idk man, just feels hollow on all fronts. Some obviously mot good things are going on and it reeks of things past where people have been abused before in the entertainment industry. Obviously mobs are usually bad but i dont think thats a point here dude. If in the middle of the metoo wienstien fiasco you were like "everyone can we please chill out with the mob justice" i think it would be fair to say stfu to that person since shit is alot more complicated than that. To be like "yall didn't go through the proper channels 🤷♂️😤 stop hating on logan its what he wants. Mob justice is bad!" ☝️🤓 It just isnt the point man, missed the mark, its hard to hear you discount someone's trauma like that under the guise of "its just messed up that we're potentially taking this guy's career away" which might not even happen regardless of how much this guys story explodes. Whatever man, i dont expect to change you're mind. I doubt you can do anything but see me as incorrect text on a screen, maybe you can look to the clouds and form some cloudy image of a person saying this to you but you aren't actually reading this with any intent to change your mind. You're just like the people you complain about dude.
I would love to give up after effects but I still think fusion isn't optimized for mograph and more geared towards compositing. I haven't seen anything come out of fusion either from other creators online that rivals mograph from AE. That said, this may be exactly what Nico is saying - a mindset shift.
So you are approving attacks on Adobe and yet inadvertently "defending" Mr.Beast. "Don't use Adobe" is in a way a mob justice, you even reference Jame Lee "anti-adobe" videos. Yet when DogPack does it, it's "questionable". The problem is that you still see MrBeast as an individual ("destroying somebody's career") - and Adobe as a faceless corporation, when in fact both have much more in common now. People need to stop pretending that these huge channels/llcs are just regular "creators" sitting in their bedrooms like they once were. And let's face it, Dean is right here - an individual has no real power over these massive organizations. Suggesting "proper channels" is like suggesting I as an individual go and try to sue Adobe for not making it clear I can't cancel the service at any time. As a side note, the purpose of "yellow journalism" is to make money out of sensationalist, often false news. DogPack did not monetize his videos, and all his comments are fairly reasonable.
Adobe sees the pirated copies of the software as just educational licenses, it really doesn't matter if you are paying them or not, as long as people don't use alternatives then the unpaying customers who will eventually become paying customer sometime in the future would have no choice but to come to them and use their tools. Most people don't pay for adobe products, yet they are still the monopoly because new users would rather pirate adobe than use alternatives and adobe knows it, which is why they've made it incredibly easy to pirate their sht. But alternatives would never get better or adopted more if people don't stop using adobe, as long as adobe can have the majority of the market share, it doesn't matter if their software is good or not, people would have no choice but to use them because the alternatives would never get better or more adopted if it's easier to get and learn the more popular software unless people deliberately make a decision to drop every adobe product for a better future.
TBH, that real-time nature of doing things without hitting pause in Autograph is cool but, Fusion has had that for over a decade now. Using OpenCL to do stuff like on GPU in real-time has been around for more than a decade in Fusion. You can see presentations on YT from 2011, 2012 where they're showing demos of doing real-time comp and particle system and 3D manipulation all in Fusion on GPU in real-time.
12:28 are you kidding me ??? There are tons of alternative to Photoshop, Fusion and blender alleged alternative have steep learning curve compared to after effects ?
You guys should use a metronome for the clap! give a 4 count in, give it another 4 or 8 beats, then from there, it’s PERFECTLY synced up. I’m an artist, so my whole job is timing, and it would make it a lot easier, unless if you’re using the audio from set.
I use and like Affinity because it's what I can afford, though for smooth vector drawing, selection, rotation, etc, it's miles behind my ancient copy of Illustrator.
On the topic of learning DaVinci Resolve, can anyone recommend a good UA-cam tutorial for first timers that want to leave Premier and get into Resolve?
We have been beholden to Final Cut for 10+ years because it is the only NLE with that ties everything to a main timeline and auto-deletes the gap for any removed clips. We don't do a lot of VFX or comping so having these features are huge time saver when you are cutting hours worth of B-Roll and interviews down to a 3-minute video for a corporate client... I just wish Apple gave a crap about the software instead of relying on plugin developers to make it competitive. I've heard too many horror stories about Premiere crashes to try it again. We cannot afford "unstable software" in a business setting.
@@rano12321 For an event with 500 shots (assuming only one good moment per shot which is rarely actually the case) you would be looking at an extra 3 button/clicks per trim. 1500 extra per project. Assuming only one event per month that is a very conservative extra 18000 clicks per year. This isn't hobby work, this is solely for commercial use in our case. The other issue is when you want to rearrange clips in Premiere because obviously, the shot order isn't always the edit order, you cannot just drag and drop the clips around to reorder them. In the premiere, you can hold alt and drag the clip around but this doesn't bring the sound effect, adjustment layers, or layered shots with it unless you comp it as far as I am aware. At the end of the day, Final Cut is the only desktop app that allows for this style of editing. Niko might be right, our method is possibly outdated, but I hate yet to see any UA-cam videos with methods remotely close to our process. Cutting through 2 hours of event B-Roll in an 8 hour work day is a pretty insane feat.
@@Triflixfilms I don't think you know how to use resolve, you don't have to manually delete clips and then use ripple delete to get to rid of gaps, you can use "ripple start to playhead and end to playhead" and it deletes anything from the right or left of the cursor to the beginning or the end of the clip and also removes the gap, essentially the same as "the magnetic timeline". I work professionally for 5 UA-camrs where I have to edit hours and hours of clips into a 10-15 mins to videos and I can do it faster than any other premiere or final cut editor. This whole we need to use fcp to do this kind of editing is nothing but pure ignorance and lack of skills. There's no such problem like that in Resolve. You can use the hotkey ctrl + shift + . to swap clips to the right and ctrl + shift + , to swap clips to the left, you can do this with multiple clips as well. Or you can hold down ctrl + shift and drag the clips to rearrange it. Works with multiple clips too. There's no logical explanation behind this sentiment "how we do things, there's no way to do it in anywhere else except FCP". That's just pure ignorance. I often get 12+ hours of footage that I can get done in 5-7 hours in Resolve and saying only FCP can do certain type of editing but not anything else is just pure ignorance.
@@rano12321 That's fair, we have tested out Davinci but not thoroughly. If I sent a 60-second video of my process in FCP, would you be able to send a video on how you would go about it in Davinci? I did not see any tutorials online for moving around shots while maintaining the story (magnetic timeline).
I remember when people HATED resolve for anything other than color. The film school i went to made the switch because with the free version it was waaaaaay cheaper. This was resolve 13 when fusion was still separate software
Can the motion control camera mirror your drone flight footage at a different scale for miniature camera match ups? ( Should have waited to post, that is what you mentioned next.) Call up the Slow Mo guys do some sick explosions or water sims. Let nature do some of your calculations. You have motion control, if you have a 3d printer to make models, you have the components for the dream. Now you need the plan for the opus.
27:10 "Especially on our time tables which are so short". Kneecapped Niko's point, but this is exactly why Hollywood rushes things out. They have a timetable and there are a lot of cogs that Cooridor doesn't have that these studios do that depend on that concrete timetable.
Have to agree that Mob justice isn't the idle way to go, however Niko you talk about, justice can only be justice when it goes through the justice system. Have we not seen time and time again when that system is weighed most heavily in favour of the one with the best legal team and or the most money. This individual had two choices, take the formal route, and most likely end up buried in legal crap and fees or take it public. I am not saying what he/she/they do/did is right but sometimes it might be the only way.
My former employer didn't have an HR until years into the business. I think there were like 30+ of us at that point and we had ONE HR person who was from a company we acquired and she was in charge of billing there :D She took courses etc on HR. And funny enough, became the worst HR I've ever seen :D We all did years of overtime with no OT pay etc.
Some of us _have_ learned how the other stuff works Niko. Photoshop and Illustrator (and Lightroom) have alternatives but as of yet they have no _equals._ *None.* Resolve/Fusion vs AE is another matter. Understand We say this as someone who _has_ stopped using Adobe. Hopefully all that Canva money will see some much needed improvements to Affinity in the days to come.
It's so cute that Niko still believes that the govt and regulatory system actually works or even cares. It's like a little kind believing in the tooth fairy
Why, as a subscriber to both Corridor channels for YEARS, am I only finding this podcast because of Mr Beast drama? Why isn't this regularly mentioned and linked in the main channel?
I couldn't really tell if you were including Coffeezilla in that "mob mentality" conversation, but if so I think that is understating the amount time and effort he put's into properly researching something before making a video on it. He can be more professional than certain people in the justice system, and I don't really feal he is ever trying to construct a false narrative, he is simply just trying to find the truth and just say it. He is not taking the place of due process, he is just showing the facts.
I love that most don't think about planets flying in space when they think of time travel. Earth doesn't spin in one place in space around it's axis. I think Wren mentioned it in some video, maybe in his talk with Sanderson.
Tom Scott has a great video on it too, definitely worth a watch! But yeah, the logistics around teleportation are probably as difficult as rocket science.
The huge huge problem is that After Effects is great for motion graphics and it's a niche within a niche, we have it super difficult to switch software, I also hate that I'm so dependant of Adobe products
A bit of a contradiction from Niko saying cancellation/ruining someone’s livelihood is not too far from killing them but critics of Logan Paul should shut up because he’s not true evil. Idk if he’s true evil but he scammed his fans out of millions of dollars (some ppls life’s savings) and I think that’s akin to killing ppl and leading ppl to kill themselves. I get what Nikos saying here but I think the the criticisms towards Logan is justified.
where's the contradiction? they're unrelated and both can be true. canceling someone and ruining their career is bad, especially if their whole identity is their career. logan paul is a pos but true evil? are all bad things evil?
@@ConnorHammond so he's just stating the obvious? my point is that there's no relationship between "cancelation by mob justice is bad" and "on the scale of good and evil, logan paul is pretty bad but there are way worse". both are true at the same time, there's no contradiction because they're not related. niko is completely consistent here because he denounces mob justice in all cases, whether it's mr. beast or logan paul or anyone else.
Yo.... i need one of these with dean talking about deadpool and wolverine.... just because i remember hearing his soul die inside after the flash, i wanna know if the soul has come back a lil bit
That take on the MrBeast situation was not it... Journalism and anecdotal personal experience are not mob justice, and none of the people directly involved called for it. Speaking out about it on their youtube platforms seems to be what they have most available to them. And to do it about the largest youtuber in the world, is speaking truth to power. Maybe you spoke out about it a little too soon though, would be interesting to hear your opinion again after all the allegations are brought to light... then who knows, at that point maybe some legal or law enforcement agencies will be involved.
Also considering that those people who work there don’t have the means to start massive legal campaigns against a conglomerates like the mr beast brand. If course there is also self interest there, that dude is farming views for his opinions and insight into that drama.
I mean alot more has come out now so this commentary on the situation is already out of date. Edit just in case: I do agree tho with most of what niko is saying especially about 'mob justice"
@niko while i agree that mob justice is not justice, I feel its also important to remember that neither is the government. something being legal does not equate to it being ethical or just
Man, I wish the keyframing page in Fusion was more intuitive. I'm so used to expressions, my usual AE plugins like saber, a+ll of my mograph templates like arrows/call outs, and the AE graph editor. Doing basic mograph in fusion is just not efficient for me right now. And if I use AE for a couple of things, then I might as well pay 30 a month for the whole suite to have lightroom, photoshop, and illustrator. Adobe certainly still has it's claws in me, even if I've swtiched to fusion for most of my 3D compositing at this point.
it's not my out of date workflow, it's the industries out of date workflow. How am i supposed to make a Certified PDF with any of the not adobe tools (i can't, i checked). + there is a better alternativr for most tools, but none of them work together as nicely as all the Adobe ones, i need my Indesign + Photoshop + Illustrator + Acrobat combo
This episode proves that Dean is the big brain in the group. Niko is nervous about something, and going out of his way to misunderstand the Mr. Beast situation. Not sure he even finished the video(s) in question because he's getting key bits of information wrong that are clearly stated. Weirdly reflective of their positions as well: the "guy in charge" can't see the gravity of the mistakes of another "guy in charge".
I get why Niko is upset and I feel like mob justice isn't great, obviously. But I feel like given his position, what was he supposed to do? Niko proposed that there are laws that protect against these sorts of things and there should be a legal procedure. Mr. Beast is an entity that has vast financial and legal resources that give him an advantage against that, regardless of whether or not that's right or wrong. The usage of the law can be manipulated as a weapon for the powerful, that's a fault of our justice system. Was dogpack's video manipulative? Yes. Should it have been more transparent? Also yes. Did this information need to come to light? I'd argue yes. Would it have, if he had done anything else? We'll never know but I'd say unlikely. It's not a 1-to-1 comparison, but the MeToo movement was pretty similar, individuals voicing out against injustices, and reforms and changes to the industry came out of it.
I knew I couldn’t fully trust DogPack since the accused is under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, I was weary about the possibility of the whistleblower falsely accusing Mr. Beast because how prevalent false accusations have become circulating around the internet. The creator of the Mandela Effect was a victim of the internet mob and he was later proven innocent. So there is absolutely no reason to take the words of a whistleblower at face-value and the fact this mode of public justice has negatively affected the careers of multiple creators whose hands were clean, how is this allowed to continue? It just proves to me people don’t care about those that have been falsely accused, they choose not to remember so they can continue to ruin more and more lives. The fact of the matter is this: accusations are exactly what they are, accusations…and accusations are NEVER considered as evidence in of itself. Yet, people are interpreting accusations as factual and conclusive without much thought. Why are people eating up what he’s saying like hot cakes without considering the possibility of DogPack not being entirely trustworthy? I can’t believe all of those dim-witted people will someday be summoned for jury selection, or already have.
@@Tax_Collector01 I'd agree, it's not good to jump to conclusions about these things. He could 100% be lying about many of his claims. However, he does have firsthand witness testimony from Jake Weddle. Witness testimony is considered acceptable as evidence under court of law. Second, even if some accusations are not true, dogpack did point out predatory practices and manipulative procedures towards children. That is just objectively true, the evidence is in the Mr. Beast videos. Is dogpack entirely trustworthy? It's hard to say, but it's also hard to say that Mr. Beast is entirely innocent, we have public examples of manipulative practices and unregulated pseudo-lotteries aimed towards children.
I appreciate how balanced your perspective on this is. It's seems like everyone is jumping the gun and missing the point he was making. While I agree with your sentiment concerning this specific situation, I still believe this type of behavior is a slippery slope that could result in the destruction of innocent people lives. I believe that's the point niko was making.
@@daviddinwiddie8173 I totally agree. I hate cancel culture, but on the other hand, there are some people that need to lose their positions of power (or in Mr. Beast's case, move to more positive business practices). And cancelling people seems to be one of, if not the only effective tool for individuals to take action against the powerful. And it's a fuzzy line between those who want to share truth, and those who are emotionally charged and just looking to take someone down or are just trying to cancel someone for profit or gain. It's frustrating to me that this is the only thing that seems to work, I'm not sure if there's actually a good solution out there.
@@daviddinwiddie8173 Niko, and you, are making the mistake of equating MrBeast to an individual. It is no longer the case - MrBeast is a for profit LLC with subsidiaries. So in a way it much closer to Adobe, yet it is OK to cheer Jame Lee "anti-Adobe" videos, because it criticizes a faceless corporation. (I guess it does not matter that these inadvertently incite mob-justice - "don't use adobe") Yet DogPack somehow mentioned in one sentence with "yellow press" (absolutely not the same, because yellow press is a for profit publication of sensationalist news, that are often false - DogPack did not monetize his videos)
why is the lighting all over the place , like the owner is well lit and all the employees look like they are in like one of thoes low budjet crime flashback recreations.
Love Niko, but I think in an attempt to call people out for clickbait thumbnails he really downplays what Logan Paul has done, especially considering how young his fan base is and the influence he wields. Logan is a WWE superstar and has one of the biggest podcasts in the world. Logan didn't *just* sue coffee, he rug-pulled the audience that made him, lied about the project even after being caught, falls for BS like the trans boxer "scandal" and signal boosts transphobia to his massive fanbase. Murderers and r*pists are awful and evil, but I find it really hard to find any sympathy for the man who has debased himself for content, spreads misinformation so callously, and has lied to and scammed so many people.
Niko is missing a major component of this issue with learning another software and getting rid of Adobe... it also means you have to UN-learn Adobe. That's not easy, esp. when you are older and have been using Adobe software for over 30 years.
I agree Niko. That whole American revolution of independence thing was a bit overboard. Should've gone through due process and gained independence the proper way through the totally not-corrupt system
You can't seriously be equating the American Colonies fighting for their rights in the face of Britain breaking their own charter laws and oppressing their own citizens, to internet mob justice... If that's the case, First World privilege is truly alive and well. Ironically, this comment perfectly exemplified everything he was saying. There's so much emotional manipulation with "good sounding" comments that have no actual substance or reasoning behind it.
I hate adobe. And I use a lot of different software, but there is no good alternative for Mograph. After effects is the only software that does 2D motion graphics well, Davinci doesn't allows you to work and animate your shapes that easily. My solution at the moment is to do 2D motion graphics on blender... which is not ideal at all. (I love blender btw)
Wow, After Effects only having roughly 15 people on the team blows my mind.. No wonder why Adobe products are garbage. I’ve never hated a company more than Adobe.
Regarding the topic of corporate greed, since you guys own XSens systems whats your thoughts on Movella's predatory pricing they offer nowadays (8,000$/yr minimum literally just to Export mocap data from a system you spent minimum 8k on). I know you guys are legacy users and started using the system before they started the subscription based export stuff. Have you guys stopped using it entirely or still have legacy access to their old software plan (free exporting)?
Affinity FTW. I replaced Photoshop and Illustrator with Affinity's stuff years ago. The learning curve was microscopic and I have been using Photoshop since 2.5 the first release on Windows. Adobe can get a spoon and eat my @ss. They only stuff they offer that's worth a 💩is the Substance Stuff.
Every documentary, in my eyes, will have some sense of bias and «manipulation». You can look at Oscar nominated documentaries and see this. I have no problem with that. What happens in a democracy - ideally - is that there is room and an arena for all parties to respond to allegations, play that game by some set rules and let the audience or recipients make their own conclusions. The problem, today, in my eyes, is that media are too dependent on advertising money, that they skimp on quality and process. In terms also, I would not consider UA-cam as a plattform thats necerilly works as an unbiased platform. UA-cam does not work after a editorial standard. It has in many cases to much of a commercial interest in some of it creators. It is also not transparent in its own censorship policies.
We need an episode with Brandon 🙏🙏
Who's Brandon? Am I whooshing
BrandonJLa, of StressLevelZero, formerly of freddiew?
@@leftyscissor Yes, exactly
Ayoo that’d be cool
Fr I wanna hear about what he's up to
It would be really cool to get a sort of 'tour' of the major software tools Corridor uses and what the strong and weak points of each are
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Week 3 of being back. I still appreciate hearing all of your voices!!! Christian, Niko, Jordan, Dean, & the rest of the crew, yall are amazing!
I have a genuine question about the mob thing:
I've seen it happen as a 10-year + employee of corporate companies that you get wrongfully terminated with a bullshit excuse that makes it legal, they force you to take the "settlement", sign your resignation when everyone knows they're firing you. There's absolutely NO way a regular employee could take the "due process" route to fighting back at this situation. They would bury you in a legal process that would take AGES and you'd be broke by the end of year. Not even talking about what that could do to your career in terms of people talking about you being "problematic" and all that.
I'm with Dean on this and feel conflicted on where's the line because to some you might feel like a "disgruntled employee" but you could actually be just exposing a bunch of bad things that happen somewhere that the "due process" is just never gonna expose.
9:00 best thing I ever did was switch to davinci resolve the AI tools for making depth maps, rotoscoping, and cutting out dead audio inlong takes is insane. They also have automatic subtitles and soo much more
I've been off Adobe for like 5-6 years now. It was when they raised the price from like 40 a month to like 46. I was already feeling weary at 40 a month the price raise was the last straw saw yall pumping up Resolve and got the free version and instantly was able to get back to my workflow within a couple of hours. Sure had to remap hot keys on my mouse but that's nothing compared to the weight Adobe put on my back.
40 was tolerable for you?....
I really enjoy how you guys are on the fringe of the film industry and can provide a lot of insight and remain not influenced by it.
man i've been watching you guys and your videos for about 13 years and it's just really cool to see the crew and by extension friends you've all made along the way. so many people that were influential on my life in a way. much love
Worked 7 years using Maya, 2 years ago I used the couple of months I had between jobs to try out blender thinking it would be a slow transition and there would be a period where I'll use both. Sure there were moments where I was just wishing i had my old buttons but I have never opened maya again unless it's to export my older work to USD or FBX. This also made me realize how much the tools tend to take a lot of focus from creators away from the actual art, switching tools reminds you in a weird way that your not a button pusher but artist.
So glad i'm out of autodesk's grip but I still have tons of my work that I cannot open legaly unless I subscribe again to Autodesk, same thing will happen with all my .PSDs and .AEs once i'm out of their grabby paws.
Great episode guys. A lot of great insight. Thankx.
God damn, I really appreciate both the intellect and emotional intelligence on display here. First "Cast" I've listened to, but I wager it'll be the first of many
Oh good a new corridor cast. I was worried I have to do some work.
wow Niko nailed the pronunciation of Schadenfreude
timecode?
@@prymexxxx 38:16
@@LauLauHip thanks. his pronunciation was aight tho 😅
he missed the schwa on the end
@@traccoschwa? There is no schwa on the end
The cast is back!!!!
Whistle blowing isn't synonymous with mob justice. Going through due process is expensive, and against a multimillionaire usually impossible for your average person. You must be about the avenues people actually have available to them.
Yes. Boeing engineers tried to bring attention to their managers and were ignored every time they brought it up to the people above them until there was no-one left. At that point it is a systemic failure within the company and only government intervention can solve it.
Absolutely, I would consider whistleblowing part of due process. It's not the same thing as mob justice. Rallying people's anger with emotionally manipulative narratives and selective truths is what I consider the rally of a mob. To have justice you need to seek the WHOLE truth, impartially. And if someone is profiting off the attention and anger, it crosses a line for me. -Niko
@@corridorcastYeah I couldn’t disagree with Niko more. Saying you want the WHOLE truth is like saying you want unbiased news media… there is none and is in fact impossible. Dogpack is doing the best he can and is going about it with great care. Non-monetized, vetted by his lawyer(s), and keeps his videos are very straight with information with minimal jokes. Instead of thinking about it as mob Justice, think about it as something akin to protesting the government.
@@stevenwhoward87 He's criticizing mob justice and getting facts wrong while doing the same thing demonizing dog pact with wrong information about him.
is dogpack or whatever getting subs?
if you can't have unbiased media, does that mean you shouldn't still strive for it?
don't whistleblowers get attention because they're whistleblowers, not the other way around?
Awesome discussion! Also appreciate yall bringing the pod back!
the irony of getting an Adobe ad before the video starts lol
For that basketball idea, where Niko thought about passing a ball around to himself you might be able to do some sort of spin on the old basketball "selective attention test" by Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris.
"Did you spot the gorilla?"
love to see you guys back
+1 to shooting miniatures. Especially ships, sets and destruction - shooting miniatures absolutely ups the realism compared to the same amount of time in CG. Things get really exciting when you shoot multiple passes with different lighting and then blend between them in post. Or blend between the model and photoscans of the model. You can even 3D track the model and use the 3D model as a mask.
Affinity is a pretty good replacement for most Adobe users. And it's so much cheaper and less bloated
One of the things I say when we do HR briefs at work is "People aren't bastards, for the most part." By which I mean most people aren't out to get you, or out to hurt you, or out to screw you over. People don't think about the impacts they have on those around them. If someone did something out of line, they probably didn't realize it was out of line. If someone was rude, then it's probably not because they hate you. If someone forgets to send a payment, it's probably not because they're trying to screw you. They're living a complicated life and things get missed. Obviously there're caveats to this, but broadly speaking I think it's true.
Another great line is "never attribute malice what can be explained by incompetence". Definitely isn't an excuse, but some people make it seem like every injustice in the world is part of someone's master plan, which it almost never is.
hearing that these guys switched to DR is honestly reassuring. truly awesome piece of software. bought the studio version sometime last year and haven't looked back.
37:30 I think part of the problem that you all are kinda dancing around is 1) often regulatory agencies don't do anything until there is public backlash (like back in the day when people would have to get their story in the local news before anything happened.) and 2) (even if unfounded) A lot of people have lost faith in traditional journalism, so now they try to get that public backlash from the internet.
A great example of your second point is a short video item about Mr Beast that was published yesterday by the state media in my country. They only mentioned him testing the boundaries by doing more extreme stunts and questioning if his filantropy might not be as altruistic as it seems.
Nothing about the allegations about the extremely toxic culture at his company, nothing about the allegations of him hiring known sex offenders, nothing about the allegations of rigging his gameshows, nothing about them adding gambling elements to their products marketed towards children and so on...
I was quite dumbfounded.
I think the elephant in the room that isn't being discussed about Mr Beast is that UA-cam as a site has shifted it's priorities towards exploity content and it has been this way for years now. Remember when the top UA-camrs were just people and not entire companies? Remember when the exploity channels were mocked instead of celebrated? Yeah there were issues with that too because people aren't perfect, but I think the current popular content is basically just trashy reality TV. It has become very common for top UA-camrs to hide their real persona from the audience and become a highly manufactured person. I do feel that the site used to have some genuine people at the top who simply aren't favoured anymore. Keeping people glued to the screen is the end all be all of UA-cam these days and that is how we got Mr Beast.
man im so happy the podcast is back!
I really missed these😅
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13:02 That's a powerful statement.
The portals in a room concept is really fascinating to me because I came up with a D&D adventure that takes place in an 'infinite time loop' city, that is basically EXACTLY this concept. Its a city that exists on a floating island, and someone made a portal that leads 100 years into the future on one side. As a consequence, there is a portal on the other side that leads 100 years into the past (which is the same portal, its just the same city 100 years separated in time).
I watched your whole short and it didn't even occur to me until watching THIS PODCAST that it was the same exact concept as my city!
Anyway, the fun part of the D&D city in this case (I named it OverUnderTime or OUT City, how strange how similar that is to your concept about escaping a box!) is that the city has an expansion in physical space up to its limit (the size of the floating island) but once it reaches that maximum, it can then expand physically through *time* as well. When it expands through time, it simultaneously makes use of more physical space as well (you can have a section of the city that has no blacksmith, but maybe there are plenty of blacksmiths through the portal in +100 years portion of the city).
Anyway, its a really fun concept to explore. D&D is really hard to play a fun game with time travel involved unless your players are ok with not trying to abuse and break the system, but with this city concept my goal was to allow them to break time like that... do things like send themselves a message in the past telling them how to beat the bad guys, or where the treasure is hidden, stuff like that. So inherently that would make it a very silly story, but silly D&D games are quite fun too. :D
The whole concept of the portal video with the time travel twist still makes my brain hurt a little lol. ( Side note: Sooooo happy the podcast is back! )
As someone who only makes 2-4 videos a year, I originally jumped to Resolve on pricing alone. Years later, that decision feels pretty darn good.
26:20 use the arm without the camera on it. Use it to move a spaceship model, like they did in Star Wars
your back!
YAY god I missed these. ❤
30:45 - With someone at Mr. Beasts level - going through typical channels isn't always possible and it rarely comes to light.
Journalism is not the same thing as a mob. Mr Beast hired a RSO to work on a show targeted at children. If the facts were in dispute, Beast would already be disputing them. Journalism and free speech have historically served a purpose that the courts cannot, which is to highlight and bring attention to issues like this. The courts in fact are often used as a weapon against the person pointing out the wrongdoing, like Logan Paul suing Coffezilla or like Mr Beast is now trying to do.
I disagree hard with Niko but there's some glaring assumptions and fallacies with what you are saying.
There are no facts yet. Almost everything is word of mouth or talking about what they experienced or heard. Next to none of it has been documented. This is where the discovery phase of a court case comes in. Mr Beast absolutely does not have to comment on it. The only thing that is compelling him to do so is the expectation that UA-cam call outs and accusations (most of which are never taken further) have set up.
Didn't dog give a former employee of Mr. Beast a platform to get his trauma out there? Like, the guy in the vid was like "screw a nda im gonna get my story out there because people should know and i want to get it off my chest" and he detailed and truly horrifying experience. Which calls into question things doesn't it? Seems like an L take Niko. Not cause you're wrong, mob justice isn't normally if ever moral and it isn't "true justice" whatever that means. But i fail to see how thats valid if a mob leads to the proper channels being alerted. Because part of the allegations are about some intense suppression thats been going on. (whoodie fucking doo who couldve guess that was happening in this multimillion dollar youtube based company run by Some Guy) I fail to see how your point applies to this situation and this story of this mans horrible abuse. Is it because he didn't say allegedly? Im not trying to belittle you're point but thats exactly what you are doing when it comes to this former employees experiences. You are discounting and belittling his experiences in favour of taking some sort of high road? and calling out that mob justice is bad? and then you say that people that critique or call logan paul a bad person/evil just as bad as logan? Which...is acknowledging that he is in fact a bad person, but then calling people that call him that equally bad? Or just the people that "do it for clicks".
Idk man, just feels hollow on all fronts. Some obviously mot good things are going on and it reeks of things past where people have been abused before in the entertainment industry. Obviously mobs are usually bad but i dont think thats a point here dude. If in the middle of the metoo wienstien fiasco you were like "everyone can we please chill out with the mob justice" i think it would be fair to say stfu to that person since shit is alot more complicated than that. To be like "yall didn't go through the proper channels 🤷♂️😤 stop hating on logan its what he wants. Mob justice is bad!" ☝️🤓 It just isnt the point man, missed the mark, its hard to hear you discount someone's trauma like that under the guise of "its just messed up that we're potentially taking this guy's career away" which might not even happen regardless of how much this guys story explodes. Whatever man, i dont expect to change you're mind. I doubt you can do anything but see me as incorrect text on a screen, maybe you can look to the clouds and form some cloudy image of a person saying this to you but you aren't actually reading this with any intent to change your mind. You're just like the people you complain about dude.
Niko is pro Krita! Heck yeah!! Krita is awesome!
I would love to give up after effects but I still think fusion isn't optimized for mograph and more geared towards compositing. I haven't seen anything come out of fusion either from other creators online that rivals mograph from AE.
That said, this may be exactly what Nico is saying - a mindset shift.
the origin of yellow journalism is actually the printing of the "yellow kid"
I get the due process thing, but normal people don't have billions to protect themselves 38:07
Due process doesn't require billions, nor does it usually require people to defend themselves. -N
So you are approving attacks on Adobe and yet inadvertently "defending" Mr.Beast.
"Don't use Adobe" is in a way a mob justice, you even reference Jame Lee "anti-adobe" videos. Yet when DogPack does it, it's "questionable".
The problem is that you still see MrBeast as an individual ("destroying somebody's career") - and Adobe as a faceless corporation, when in fact both have much more in common now.
People need to stop pretending that these huge channels/llcs are just regular "creators" sitting in their bedrooms like they once were.
And let's face it, Dean is right here - an individual has no real power over these massive organizations. Suggesting "proper channels" is like suggesting I as an individual go and try to sue Adobe for not making it clear I can't cancel the service at any time.
As a side note, the purpose of "yellow journalism" is to make money out of sensationalist, often false news. DogPack did not monetize his videos, and all his comments are fairly reasonable.
UFO at 15:08
Adobe sees the pirated copies of the software as just educational licenses, it really doesn't matter if you are paying them or not, as long as people don't use alternatives then the unpaying customers who will eventually become paying customer sometime in the future would have no choice but to come to them and use their tools. Most people don't pay for adobe products, yet they are still the monopoly because new users would rather pirate adobe than use alternatives and adobe knows it, which is why they've made it incredibly easy to pirate their sht. But alternatives would never get better or adopted more if people don't stop using adobe, as long as adobe can have the majority of the market share, it doesn't matter if their software is good or not, people would have no choice but to use them because the alternatives would never get better or more adopted if it's easier to get and learn the more popular software unless people deliberately make a decision to drop every adobe product for a better future.
TBH, that real-time nature of doing things without hitting pause in Autograph is cool but, Fusion has had that for over a decade now. Using OpenCL to do stuff like on GPU in real-time has been around for more than a decade in Fusion. You can see presentations on YT from 2011, 2012 where they're showing demos of doing real-time comp and particle system and 3D manipulation all in Fusion on GPU in real-time.
12:28 are you kidding me ??? There are tons of alternative to Photoshop, Fusion and blender alleged alternative have steep learning curve compared to after effects ?
You guys should use a metronome for the clap! give a 4 count in, give it another 4 or 8 beats, then from there, it’s PERFECTLY synced up. I’m an artist, so my whole job is timing, and it would make it a lot easier, unless if you’re using the audio from set.
I use and like Affinity because it's what I can afford, though for smooth vector drawing, selection, rotation, etc, it's miles behind my ancient copy of Illustrator.
On the topic of learning DaVinci Resolve, can anyone recommend a good UA-cam tutorial for first timers that want to leave Premier and get into Resolve?
the mr. beast memo: no does not mean no
lol..
37:51 spot on, could not agree more.
Maybe get Clint on for the next ones to talk about his render challenges and about organizing them.
We have been beholden to Final Cut for 10+ years because it is the only NLE with that ties everything to a main timeline and auto-deletes the gap for any removed clips. We don't do a lot of VFX or comping so having these features are huge time saver when you are cutting hours worth of B-Roll and interviews down to a 3-minute video for a corporate client... I just wish Apple gave a crap about the software instead of relying on plugin developers to make it competitive.
I've heard too many horror stories about Premiere crashes to try it again. We cannot afford "unstable software" in a business setting.
you can auto delete gaps in resolve too by using ripple delete.
@@rano12321 For an event with 500 shots (assuming only one good moment per shot which is rarely actually the case) you would be looking at an extra 3 button/clicks per trim. 1500 extra per project. Assuming only one event per month that is a very conservative extra 18000 clicks per year. This isn't hobby work, this is solely for commercial use in our case.
The other issue is when you want to rearrange clips in Premiere because obviously, the shot order isn't always the edit order, you cannot just drag and drop the clips around to reorder them. In the premiere, you can hold alt and drag the clip around but this doesn't bring the sound effect, adjustment layers, or layered shots with it unless you comp it as far as I am aware.
At the end of the day, Final Cut is the only desktop app that allows for this style of editing. Niko might be right, our method is possibly outdated, but I hate yet to see any UA-cam videos with methods remotely close to our process. Cutting through 2 hours of event B-Roll in an 8 hour work day is a pretty insane feat.
@@Triflixfilms I don't think you know how to use resolve, you don't have to manually delete clips and then use ripple delete to get to rid of gaps, you can use "ripple start to playhead and end to playhead" and it deletes anything from the right or left of the cursor to the beginning or the end of the clip and also removes the gap, essentially the same as "the magnetic timeline". I work professionally for 5 UA-camrs where I have to edit hours and hours of clips into a 10-15 mins to videos and I can do it faster than any other premiere or final cut editor. This whole we need to use fcp to do this kind of editing is nothing but pure ignorance and lack of skills.
There's no such problem like that in Resolve. You can use the hotkey ctrl + shift + . to swap clips to the right and ctrl + shift + , to swap clips to the left, you can do this with multiple clips as well. Or you can hold down ctrl + shift and drag the clips to rearrange it. Works with multiple clips too.
There's no logical explanation behind this sentiment "how we do things, there's no way to do it in anywhere else except FCP". That's just pure ignorance. I often get 12+ hours of footage that I can get done in 5-7 hours in Resolve and saying only FCP can do certain type of editing but not anything else is just pure ignorance.
@@rano12321 That's fair, we have tested out Davinci but not thoroughly. If I sent a 60-second video of my process in FCP, would you be able to send a video on how you would go about it in Davinci? I did not see any tutorials online for moving around shots while maintaining the story (magnetic timeline).
I remember when people HATED resolve for anything other than color. The film school i went to made the switch because with the free version it was waaaaaay cheaper. This was resolve 13 when fusion was still separate software
Can the motion control camera mirror your drone flight footage at a different scale for miniature camera match ups? ( Should have waited to post, that is what you mentioned next.) Call up the Slow Mo guys do some sick explosions or water sims. Let nature do some of your calculations. You have motion control, if you have a 3d printer to make models, you have the components for the dream. Now you need the plan for the opus.
27:10 "Especially on our time tables which are so short". Kneecapped Niko's point, but this is exactly why Hollywood rushes things out. They have a timetable and there are a lot of cogs that Cooridor doesn't have that these studios do that depend on that concrete timetable.
Idea for the robot arm: can you do some very precise, moving forced perspective stuff like in LotR?
Have to agree that Mob justice isn't the idle way to go, however Niko you talk about, justice can only be justice when it goes through the justice system. Have we not seen time and time again when that system is weighed most heavily in favour of the one with the best legal team and or the most money. This individual had two choices, take the formal route, and most likely end up buried in legal crap and fees or take it public. I am not saying what he/she/they do/did is right but sometimes it might be the only way.
My former employer didn't have an HR until years into the business. I think there were like 30+ of us at that point and we had ONE HR person who was from a company we acquired and she was in charge of billing there :D She took courses etc on HR. And funny enough, became the worst HR I've ever seen :D We all did years of overtime with no OT pay etc.
I dropped Adobe this year, after over 20 years of use as a graphic designer. Their latest debacle with the ToS was the last straw for me.
4:20 That should be a video in & of itself, 3d robot arm camera out of control because vfx artist was scrubbing on the timeline
Mob retribution always indicates a failure of the existing systems.
Resolve for the win BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
Some of us _have_ learned how the other stuff works Niko. Photoshop and Illustrator (and Lightroom) have alternatives but as of yet they have no _equals._ *None.* Resolve/Fusion vs AE is another matter. Understand We say this as someone who _has_ stopped using Adobe. Hopefully all that Canva money will see some much needed improvements to Affinity in the days to come.
It's so cute that Niko still believes that the govt and regulatory system actually works or even cares. It's like a little kind believing in the tooth fairy
Let’s go baby
Why, as a subscriber to both Corridor channels for YEARS, am I only finding this podcast because of Mr Beast drama?
Why isn't this regularly mentioned and linked in the main channel?
I couldn't really tell if you were including Coffeezilla in that "mob mentality" conversation, but if so I think that is understating the amount time and effort he put's into properly researching something before making a video on it. He can be more professional than certain people in the justice system, and I don't really feal he is ever trying to construct a false narrative, he is simply just trying to find the truth and just say it. He is not taking the place of due process, he is just showing the facts.
I love that most don't think about planets flying in space when they think of time travel. Earth doesn't spin in one place in space around it's axis. I think Wren mentioned it in some video, maybe in his talk with Sanderson.
Tom Scott has a great video on it too, definitely worth a watch! But yeah, the logistics around teleportation are probably as difficult as rocket science.
I'm tempted to get a Blackmagic camera so I get resolve free. The free version only opens sub 10 bit, so I can't use free version.
The huge huge problem is that After Effects is great for motion graphics and it's a niche within a niche, we have it super difficult to switch software, I also hate that I'm so dependant of Adobe products
I work for Adobe and I agree with Niko
Thanks for bringing the podcast back! Don't let the criticism in these comments stop you.
A bit of a contradiction from Niko saying cancellation/ruining someone’s livelihood is not too far from killing them but critics of Logan Paul should shut up because he’s not true evil.
Idk if he’s true evil but he scammed his fans out of millions of dollars (some ppls life’s savings) and I think that’s akin to killing ppl and leading ppl to kill themselves.
I get what Nikos saying here but I think the the criticisms towards Logan is justified.
No shade tho, luv the videos and rants. I think these are important topics.
where's the contradiction? they're unrelated and both can be true. canceling someone and ruining their career is bad, especially if their whole identity is their career. logan paul is a pos but true evil? are all bad things evil?
@@wuziq yes, Logan is evil. Steeling millions of dollars from your fans is evil. That's what he's saying.
@@ConnorHammond so he's just stating the obvious? my point is that there's no relationship between "cancelation by mob justice is bad" and "on the scale of good and evil, logan paul is pretty bad but there are way worse". both are true at the same time, there's no contradiction because they're not related.
niko is completely consistent here because he denounces mob justice in all cases, whether it's mr. beast or logan paul or anyone else.
Yo.... i need one of these with dean talking about deadpool and wolverine.... just because i remember hearing his soul die inside after the flash, i wanna know if the soul has come back a lil bit
That take on the MrBeast situation was not it... Journalism and anecdotal personal experience are not mob justice, and none of the people directly involved called for it. Speaking out about it on their youtube platforms seems to be what they have most available to them. And to do it about the largest youtuber in the world, is speaking truth to power. Maybe you spoke out about it a little too soon though, would be interesting to hear your opinion again after all the allegations are brought to light... then who knows, at that point maybe some legal or law enforcement agencies will be involved.
Also considering that those people who work there don’t have the means to start massive legal campaigns against a conglomerates like the mr beast brand. If course there is also self interest there, that dude is farming views for his opinions and insight into that drama.
you guys are doing tricks on it lmfaooo
I mean alot more has come out now so this commentary on the situation is already out of date.
Edit just in case: I do agree tho with most of what niko is saying especially about 'mob justice"
40:49 In war, the people who get rich is the people who sell the bullets
@niko while i agree that mob justice is not justice, I feel its also important to remember that neither is the government. something being legal does not equate to it being ethical or just
Man, I wish the keyframing page in Fusion was more intuitive. I'm so used to expressions, my usual AE plugins like saber, a+ll of my mograph templates like arrows/call outs, and the AE graph editor. Doing basic mograph in fusion is just not efficient for me right now. And if I use AE for a couple of things, then I might as well pay 30 a month for the whole suite to have lightroom, photoshop, and illustrator. Adobe certainly still has it's claws in me, even if I've swtiched to fusion for most of my 3D compositing at this point.
Being a moral consumer of content should be a religion, the mass consumption of trash content is deteriorating our creative ecosystem
it's not my out of date workflow, it's the industries out of date workflow. How am i supposed to make a Certified PDF with any of the not adobe tools (i can't, i checked). + there is a better alternativr for most tools, but none of them work together as nicely as all the Adobe ones, i need my Indesign + Photoshop + Illustrator + Acrobat combo
This episode proves that Dean is the big brain in the group. Niko is nervous about something, and going out of his way to misunderstand the Mr. Beast situation. Not sure he even finished the video(s) in question because he's getting key bits of information wrong that are clearly stated. Weirdly reflective of their positions as well: the "guy in charge" can't see the gravity of the mistakes of another "guy in charge".
Can’t believe they took Logan’s side
I get why Niko is upset and I feel like mob justice isn't great, obviously. But I feel like given his position, what was he supposed to do? Niko proposed that there are laws that protect against these sorts of things and there should be a legal procedure. Mr. Beast is an entity that has vast financial and legal resources that give him an advantage against that, regardless of whether or not that's right or wrong. The usage of the law can be manipulated as a weapon for the powerful, that's a fault of our justice system.
Was dogpack's video manipulative? Yes. Should it have been more transparent? Also yes. Did this information need to come to light? I'd argue yes. Would it have, if he had done anything else? We'll never know but I'd say unlikely. It's not a 1-to-1 comparison, but the MeToo movement was pretty similar, individuals voicing out against injustices, and reforms and changes to the industry came out of it.
I knew I couldn’t fully trust DogPack since the accused is under the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, I was weary about the possibility of the whistleblower falsely accusing Mr. Beast because how prevalent false accusations have become circulating around the internet. The creator of the Mandela Effect was a victim of the internet mob and he was later proven innocent. So there is absolutely no reason to take the words of a whistleblower at face-value and the fact this mode of public justice has negatively affected the careers of multiple creators whose hands were clean, how is this allowed to continue? It just proves to me people don’t care about those that have been falsely accused, they choose not to remember so they can continue to ruin more and more lives. The fact of the matter is this: accusations are exactly what they are, accusations…and accusations are NEVER considered as evidence in of itself. Yet, people are interpreting accusations as factual and conclusive without much thought. Why are people eating up what he’s saying like hot cakes without considering the possibility of DogPack not being entirely trustworthy?
I can’t believe all of those dim-witted people will someday be summoned for jury selection, or already have.
@@Tax_Collector01 I'd agree, it's not good to jump to conclusions about these things. He could 100% be lying about many of his claims.
However, he does have firsthand witness testimony from Jake Weddle. Witness testimony is considered acceptable as evidence under court of law.
Second, even if some accusations are not true, dogpack did point out predatory practices and manipulative procedures towards children. That is just objectively true, the evidence is in the Mr. Beast videos.
Is dogpack entirely trustworthy? It's hard to say, but it's also hard to say that Mr. Beast is entirely innocent, we have public examples of manipulative practices and unregulated pseudo-lotteries aimed towards children.
I appreciate how balanced your perspective on this is. It's seems like everyone is jumping the gun and missing the point he was making. While I agree with your sentiment concerning this specific situation, I still believe this type of behavior is a slippery slope that could result in the destruction of innocent people lives. I believe that's the point niko was making.
@@daviddinwiddie8173 I totally agree. I hate cancel culture, but on the other hand, there are some people that need to lose their positions of power (or in Mr. Beast's case, move to more positive business practices). And cancelling people seems to be one of, if not the only effective tool for individuals to take action against the powerful. And it's a fuzzy line between those who want to share truth, and those who are emotionally charged and just looking to take someone down or are just trying to cancel someone for profit or gain. It's frustrating to me that this is the only thing that seems to work, I'm not sure if there's actually a good solution out there.
@@daviddinwiddie8173 Niko, and you, are making the mistake of equating MrBeast to an individual. It is no longer the case - MrBeast is a for profit LLC with subsidiaries.
So in a way it much closer to Adobe, yet it is OK to cheer Jame Lee "anti-Adobe" videos, because it criticizes a faceless corporation. (I guess it does not matter that these inadvertently incite mob-justice - "don't use adobe")
Yet DogPack somehow mentioned in one sentence with "yellow press" (absolutely not the same, because yellow press is a for profit publication of sensationalist news, that are often false - DogPack did not monetize his videos)
why is the lighting all over the place , like the owner is well lit and all the employees look like they are in like one of thoes low budjet crime flashback recreations.
Love Niko, but I think in an attempt to call people out for clickbait thumbnails he really downplays what Logan Paul has done, especially considering how young his fan base is and the influence he wields. Logan is a WWE superstar and has one of the biggest podcasts in the world. Logan didn't *just* sue coffee, he rug-pulled the audience that made him, lied about the project even after being caught, falls for BS like the trans boxer "scandal" and signal boosts transphobia to his massive fanbase. Murderers and r*pists are awful and evil, but I find it really hard to find any sympathy for the man who has debased himself for content, spreads misinformation so callously, and has lied to and scammed so many people.
Niko is missing a major component of this issue with learning another software and getting rid of Adobe... it also means you have to UN-learn Adobe. That's not easy, esp. when you are older and have been using Adobe software for over 30 years.
The biggest issue I have with people like Mr Beast is how hes affecting our youth with brain rot money dance videos
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So hard to let go of Adobe AE...I have a lot of time and plug-ins invested...however I am using Blender more and more
Using AE is psychological torment. I use Moho for as much of the work as possible these days.
I agree Niko. That whole American revolution of independence thing was a bit overboard. Should've gone through due process and gained independence the proper way through the totally not-corrupt system
You can't seriously be equating the American Colonies fighting for their rights in the face of Britain breaking their own charter laws and oppressing their own citizens, to internet mob justice... If that's the case, First World privilege is truly alive and well. Ironically, this comment perfectly exemplified everything he was saying. There's so much emotional manipulation with "good sounding" comments that have no actual substance or reasoning behind it.
Mr Beast is big but not 18th century British Empire big, great analogy lmao
100%
I hate adobe. And I use a lot of different software, but there is no good alternative for Mograph. After effects is the only software that does 2D motion graphics well, Davinci doesn't allows you to work and animate your shapes that easily.
My solution at the moment is to do 2D motion graphics on blender... which is not ideal at all. (I love blender btw)
Wow, After Effects only having roughly 15 people on the team blows my mind..
No wonder why Adobe products are garbage.
I’ve never hated a company more than Adobe.
Regarding the topic of corporate greed, since you guys own XSens systems whats your thoughts on Movella's predatory pricing they offer nowadays (8,000$/yr minimum literally just to Export mocap data from a system you spent minimum 8k on). I know you guys are legacy users and started using the system before they started the subscription based export stuff. Have you guys stopped using it entirely or still have legacy access to their old software plan (free exporting)?
Affinity FTW. I replaced Photoshop and Illustrator with Affinity's stuff years ago. The learning curve was microscopic and I have been using Photoshop since 2.5 the first release on Windows. Adobe can get a spoon and eat my @ss. They only stuff they offer that's worth a 💩is the Substance Stuff.
Re: leaving adobe, has anyone tried Cavalry?
Every documentary, in my eyes, will have some sense of bias and «manipulation». You can look at Oscar nominated documentaries and see this. I have no problem with that.
What happens in a democracy - ideally - is that there is room and an arena for all parties to respond to allegations, play that game by some set rules and let the audience or recipients make their own conclusions.
The problem, today, in my eyes, is that media are too dependent on advertising money, that they skimp on quality and process. In terms also, I would not consider UA-cam as a plattform thats necerilly works as an unbiased platform. UA-cam does not work after a editorial standard. It has in many cases to much of a commercial interest in some of it creators. It is also not transparent in its own censorship policies.
regulatory process is a joke, and take years. Mob Justice is the ONLY justice for these predators on the internet these days.