I agree with Matt when he said people over torque the carbon bars causing failure. I think that is a big part of the reason the snap. I am about to order my first set of carbons! Great video!
I do have to agree carbon bars feel great on the hands and arms. 15 months ago I was on a double black trail and riding nothing out of the ordinary. My bars and components were torqued to spec. I did stop short but my body kept going anf snapped my carbon bars like a pretzel. I face planted and broke my c2 vertebrae. Luckily still walking and riding today but will not be using carbon bars anymore.
This seems like a great series! You should do an episode on how to set up suspension and explain compression vs rebound. Also a video of all the kinds of MTBs and what bike you should get, this was very confusing to me when I first got into Mountain biking.
My new emtb I got a couple weeks ago came with carbon bar's, seems a shame to have to go change them over but man I don't trust carbon in bar's I might run it for a couple rides I've not had the bike out yet due to storm's bit think might be OK with the 170mm fox 38s taking up alot shock but still Don't trust them! I've done some damage to myself before folding a wheel so not really wanting to go through that or worse being of face plant area lol
@@MTBTravelReview that’s what I’m asking. I am thinking of changing my FSA afterburner aluminium bar to a titanium one, will be lighter I guess, not sure. Any other advantage other than aesthetics? I am very very new to the mountain bike world, bought my first mountain bike this month.
@@zukzworld if you are that new to mountain biking, I wouldn’t be worried about swapping to titanium bars. Aluminum bars work great and you should focus on skill, not very small weight savings like a handlebar swap.
Not really with the corners cut in carbon today trying to make them lighter! There using only 2 layers of resin now the inner side and outer nothing holding the fibres in the middle like the way carbon manufacturing should be built! The carbon repair guy explains all this in one his videos aswell it's really interesting that's kinda the reason I don't trust carbon today there's no central resin structure support you shouldn't see dry fibres when carbon snaps but if it's done right it wouldn't snap as easily like defusers etc on race cars and old carbon bike frames still Solid today as they were new compared to what we get today for so called "weight saving "! But I think this is done on purpose so your buying a new carbon bike or frame and components alot more! As long as the manufacturer is making a profit on them they don't care about our safety or they wouldn't cut out the most important step to carbon forming
Specialized said it out loud in their manual that this is a trade off between performances and product life. Lighter more brittle material just doesn’t last as long. Great video. Thanks!
@@MTBTravelReview just keep hearing about it being more of a safety hazard compare to aluminum but I think it may be okay I’m not going to be doing extreme trails where it would break
@@MTBTravelReview nice to hear I did everything correctly so I’m confident it should be fine used park tool carbon assembly sac-2 for install and torque to spec
I agree with Matt when he said people over torque the carbon bars causing failure. I think that is a big part of the reason the snap. I am about to order my first set of carbons! Great video!
Knowing the limits of carbon is key. Appreciate the support!
I do have to agree carbon bars feel great on the hands and arms. 15 months ago I was on a double black trail and riding nothing out of the ordinary. My bars and components were torqued to spec. I did stop short but my body kept going anf snapped my carbon bars like a pretzel. I face planted and broke my c2 vertebrae. Luckily still walking and riding today but will not be using carbon bars anymore.
Fair enough. Glad you are alright. I’ve never snapped a carbon bar, but I know it can happen.
This seems like a great series! You should do an episode on how to set up suspension and explain compression vs rebound. Also a video of all the kinds of MTBs and what bike you should get, this was very confusing to me when I first got into Mountain biking.
Thanks man! We are really to get this series rolling and all great ideas!
TI BARS RULE
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Good stuff Jimmy! Definitely keep these up.
Cheers man. Appreciate the support. 👊🏼
My new emtb I got a couple weeks ago came with carbon bar's, seems a shame to have to go change them over but man I don't trust carbon in bar's I might run it for a couple rides I've not had the bike out yet due to storm's bit think might be OK with the 170mm fox 38s taking up alot shock but still
Don't trust them! I've done some damage to myself before folding a wheel so not really wanting to go through that or worse being of face plant area lol
I’ve ridden carbon wheels and bars since I started and I ride very aggressively. That said, to each their own. Whatever works best for you!
I use carbon bars for the absorption it seems to help my carpal tunnel!
Dampening is a clear advantage for carpal tunnel. Smart move!
@@MTBTravelReview *damping. Dampening means slightly wet.
Good stuff
Cheers
Any thought about titanium handlebar?
I’m not too familiar with titanium bars. Any insights?
@@MTBTravelReview that’s what I’m asking. I am thinking of changing my FSA afterburner aluminium bar to a titanium one, will be lighter I guess, not sure. Any other advantage other than aesthetics?
I am very very new to the mountain bike world, bought my first mountain bike this month.
@@zukzworld if you are that new to mountain biking, I wouldn’t be worried about swapping to titanium bars. Aluminum bars work great and you should focus on skill, not very small weight savings like a handlebar swap.
Tnks. Going 2carbon.😀
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For me, I like dirt jumper bars with a lot of rise and there just isn't carbon bars made to my liking. I stick with diety or spank aluminum.
How much rise are we talking. Totally forgot to talk about rise in the video! Rookie move.
@MTB Travel Review I like anywhere from 60mm to 80mm depending on how many spacers I can get under the stem.
@@thim8009 whoa, that some serious ride! I think I run 20 or 30.
@@MTBTravelReview yeah they probably couldn't afford the mold, just joking.
@@thim8009 🤣👌🏼
Titanium bars 👍
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I GOT 880MM DOOM TI LUCKY BARS KILLER
5:37 “…that’s why a lot of people will switch…from carbon to aluminum…”
You probably meant the opposite.
Probably maybe
Should have also mentioned material fatigue.
Good point, but that kind of falls into death by a thousand cuts, no?
Not really with the corners cut in carbon today trying to make them lighter! There using only 2 layers of resin now the inner side and outer nothing holding the fibres in the middle like the way carbon manufacturing should be built! The carbon repair guy explains all this in one his videos aswell it's really interesting that's kinda the reason I don't trust carbon today there's no central resin structure support you shouldn't see dry fibres when carbon snaps but if it's done right it wouldn't snap as easily like defusers etc on race cars and old carbon bike frames still Solid today as they were new compared to what we get today for so called "weight saving "! But I think this is done on purpose so your buying a new carbon bike or frame and components alot more! As long as the manufacturer is making a profit on them they don't care about our safety or they wouldn't cut out the most important step to carbon forming
Specialized said it out loud in their manual that this is a trade off between performances and product life. Lighter more brittle material just doesn’t last as long.
Great video. Thanks!
Cheers!
I might return my carbon bar and just get the aluminum
Why?
@@MTBTravelReview just keep hearing about it being more of a safety hazard compare to aluminum but I think it may be okay I’m not going to be doing extreme trails where it would break
@@danemoreno88 I ride insane trials very aggressively and race and have never snapped a carbon bar.
@@MTBTravelReview nice to hear I did everything correctly so I’m confident it should be fine used park tool carbon assembly sac-2 for install and torque to spec
I’ve bent two aluminium bars so I dunno if it’s that durable
Durable does not mean invincible, but bending is better than a carbon bar snapping on you.
True! Carbon doesn't bend🤭
Kids today can't even fix a puncture 😅
Damn kids
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Cranks ARE dangerous. Bars are not
Both can be dangerous.
I think Id rather have a crank fail than my handlebar.