Midway 2019 - “Doolittle Raid”
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Polling Time! Who is the better actor portraying Doolittle: Aaron Eckhart or Alec Baldwin?
Spencer Tracey
The one that is not a murderer.
@@anamericancelt6534 neither are murderers.
@@daetoris4473 Well baldwin did kill someone. Theres that!
@@fishmonger6879 you’re confusing killing and murdering. Baldwin killed someone in a tragic accident, through no fault of his own. That does not constitute murder.
Insane how only three of those men didn't make it. This was a suicide mission of epic proportions.
Real Men die for causes worth fighting for.
there were also 8 POW's of which 4 died
the one that made it to our "ally" russia was kept and the crew interned in prison for 18 months
@@PeterOkeefe54 The good thing is they arent in gulak
@@canthi109 they are more like political prisoner that can't be touch
This is one of those moments that is so insane you don't need to exaggerate for Hollywood. As far as I can tell every part of this except the bad weather is 100% how it went, right down to Doolittle taking the first spot as it would give the shortest takeoff roll and the most risk. Those men were simply built different.
its in your veins brother find me 144
Except many of them have been caught and executed savagely by the Japanese ...
@@johndoe-cd9vt Almost all got away.. about 8 were captured and sent to Japan for show trial.. 4 were executed.. The Japanese slaughtered about 250K Chinese in vengeance for assisting the other US crews' escape..
@@barsoom43 3 executed*. The fourth died due to disease.
They were constructed in an alternative manner.
In his book "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" Captain Lawson gives a lot of credit to the launch chief. IIRC he said the sailor actually timed the launch against the pitching of the ship so the bombers would get a little bit extra boost coming off the deck. (The book is a pretty good read, BTW.)
Captain Lawson also lost his leg and most of his front teeth trying to escape the Japanese after his plane crashed. Beast of a man.
@@seanjoo6274 My teeth always start hurting whenever I think about this raid because of that book.
The movie is classic!
Read that book a couple of times. Also Doolittle has a biography that's very good.
I'll ad it to the list
Doolittle, a true leader. First plane off the carrier.
leading by example the old american way.the way it should always be.
@@jpolanco1000 It isn't the old American way, is the way leaders are in any organization including the military. Even in today's world. /Navy Veteran
@@jpolanco1000
Those leading by example now, are leading America to it’s inevitable destruction!!!
Prove me wrong!!!
@@nobytes2
Obviously you haven’t looked at the Generals and Commander in Shit we have making decisions today!!!
Thanks to Generals like Miley, we left Terrorists well funded and equipped with American military armor and technology to the tune of about $80 billion!!!!
@@AzzKicker-bz1cb you are correct sir.
My Grandmother told me of a story where she was a nurse during the war. The doctors instructed that the patients be taken outside to watch the cherry blossoms bloom at their hospital. As they admired the Ohka's natural beauty, a pair of aircraft flew right over their heads. Then they heard explosions in the distance. She couldn't remember the date as she was 90 at the time. I used other evidence, like the cherry blossoms blooming from late March to mid-April, mostly. She also described the aircraft, "They had two engines and two tails." I showed her a photo of a B-25 and she confirmed that was the aircraft she saw. Then the clencher was, afterwards this incident she was sent to Singapore in 1943. My Grandmother witnessed the Doolittle Raid!
That's awesome
That’s actually crazy
Incredible
Pictures or it didn’t happen
This doesn’t sound real but if it is real that is amazing
I heard that 60 years later, Colonel Doolittle became Gotham City District Attorney.
Indeed, but we have another name for him around here at the GCPD
And then lost half his face
Then he went on to fight against aliens in Los Angeles as a USMC Sargeant.
Courage like this is a rare commodity. Not just these guys, but all who served in this war. Think about the hot, sweaty fear of a fireman in the boiler room of a ship at sea in combat. The turret ball gunner freezing at 10,000 feet being shot at by enemy fighters and flak guns. Sitting in a foxhole as artillery shells explode all around you and tanks are coming over the ridgeline that you have to stop...just amazing courage to be able to keep it together long enough to fight back.
They don't want us to know.
The Greatest Generation.. These were average people's fathers and grandfathers.
@@jaygonztx Yes, The ones who survived came home to try and pick up their lives the best way they could. My own grandpa was a Navy Corpsman in a PT squadron. He lied about his age so he could join at age 16. He went to the Philippians when he was 17. I had asked him why and he said Pearl Harbor made him very angry and there was no way they were keeping him out of the war just because he was too young. He had malaria and combat wounds and 3 purple hearts. He made Chief faster than any enlisted man in the Navy's history. I am sure that has been surpassed by now, but he was one that heard the calling very strong. Many others like him too.
And think of the people against whom we fought, who at the end had less hope than the guys in the Alamo - and kept fighting.
The men who fought in WW2 were extraordinarily brave and courageous young men who did things that saved the world!
Indeed they are the Greatest Generation to Have Ever Walked the Earth!! 🇺🇸🙏💗
I find it kinda funny that this whole mission was especially just a way to say, “fuck you,” to Japan.
It was mean't to show Japan, and more so Japan's public that weren't 18-40 year old men fighting, that they were not safe on their island half a world away. Don't find it too funny, three of those men didn't survive the trip. All made a knowing and huge sacrifice in order to say "fuck you" to Japan indeed. Imagine KNOWING there isn't enough fuel to get you home, it'd scare the shit out of me.
@@Onlyhiphopbrendan i feel like in a way, it is a ‘fuck you’.
These men accepted the risks and said fuck it, we’ll give the Japanese a reality check
Boosted morale on the home front, showed Japan that we had the technical ability to cross further than they did to make a strike, and forced Japan to shift material for defense.
@@hybui123 I don't disagree with the meaning. I just disagreed with it being humorous. That's all.
Not his fault, he probably didn't think that deep into it.
It defiantly spooked the Japanese military, the specter of the raid followed them all throughout the war. They had a number of other problems that lead to their undoing, but the raid lived rent-free in their heads the rest of the war for sure.
It amazes me that Doolitle, a 45-year-old, stocky, 5’6” balding man is continually portrayed as young and handsome. I think the closest Hollywood came to decent casting was Spencer Tracy in “Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo.”
Hey at least the got the weather right in this film (unlike another movie that had this scene in it)
There can’t be ugly heroes, their actions simply aren’t enough.
I mean, Aaron Eckhart was 50 when he played in Midway. Agree on other counts tho.
@@hello7032 yep, "adaptational attractiveness" is a part of how movies reenforce who the good guys are supposed to be. At the end of the film you see the IRL guys were all average joes.
The actor playing Doolittle is in his 50s.
Man, B-25s. One of the most versatile light bombers of the war.
*Medium
But yes, useful in a variety of roles.
Medium bomber not light. Twin engine light bomber in WW II was the A-20 Havoc.
*the b-17 will remember that*
@@II-mt9de The B-17 is heavy
@@patrickmccrann991 For the Americans yes.
I love how so many risks were taken back then to tell the Japanese just who they were messing with. I believe that's how the War was won, not just by industry, but sheer guts and will by ever man who gave a part of themselves for the peace we take for granted today
Japan predicted, incorrectly, that the US didn't have the stomach for a war.
It also helped that in 1937 (aka when the US was in a Depression and Japan was building up its military), that the US had a few advantages:
- twice the population
- Seventeen times Japan's national income
- Five times more steel production
- Seven times more coal production
- Eighty (80) times the automobile production
It was entirely industry and oil lol
@Whiskey Pete No, not industry, though I guess it technically IS included with what I'm about to say: Logistics wins wars.
Denotative guts
this Doolittle scene is more realistic than the pearl harbor
The whole damn movie was more realistic than Pearl Harbour. Props to the makers.
@@Deevo037 THIS is how you make a historical movie. Slight fiction but stick to the IRL accounts
@@the8bitclicker_193 See Battle of Britain for a classic example of that.
Yes, it's just too bad that the few English actors cast, were in roles of prominence, making their forced American accents all the more jarring. That, and the shoehorned-in, Hollywood-exclusive drama/rivalry that never existed between two of the characters.
@@Deevo037 yeah uhm there were some mistakes made though. For example, Admiral Nagumo actually had 15 minutes to decide whether to bomb midway or attack the US carrier group. Next, Dusty Kleiss, He is the only pilot to hit three Japanese ships with bombs during the Battle of Midway, not Dick Best. Next is the part where McClusky misses the bomb, in reality he actually hit the carrier. Finally, the scene where guaido was dropped on an anchor after they got captured? Yeah they suffered way worse than that. The movie didn't really depicted it correctly but it was decently good.
What an absolutely insane true story. A long shot, one trip mission, with little tactical advantage, but incredible morale change.
History’s doesn’t always need exaggerating.
The Doolittle Raiders achieved the impossible. They broke the illusion the Japanese had that their island empire was impenetrable. The physical damage done to Tokyo wasn't on the level that was done to Pearl Harbor, but the psychological damage was even greater. Tokyo was bombed to pieces during war, which is one of the reasons it didn't have an atomic bomb dropped on it. None of the Doolittle Raiders are with us anymore. The last three had their final reunion before each passed away several years ago. At each reunion, the Raiders would share a drink in personalized silver cups. When the Raiders started passing away, their cups would be turned upside down, never to be used again. The placeholder of those cups, with the cups inside of it, should be donated to the Smithsonian, if it hasn't already.
All the Raiders are gone, and all the Goblets are turned upside down. Richad Cole, Jimmy Doolittle's co-pilot was the last to pass into Ancestor Land.
The goblets are on display in the National Museum of the U.S.A.F. in Dayton, Ohio.
For the curious-
Doolittle picked the B-25 Mitchell for this mission because for what he was trying to accomplish it was his only real option in terms of launching a land-based bomber from a Yorktown-class aircraft carrier.
The B-24 Liberator’s wingspan was too long and would have hit the pilot house, and B-17 Flying Fortress needed more runway than the 814 feet of flight deck the Hornet provided
The B-25 was the only aircraft with a good enough bombload and range to accomplish what the Doolittle raid did, especially from a carrier deck. And its still weighted more than 19,000 pounds empty, almost double what a fully loaded SBD Dauntless did. And they still stripped these planes of practically all defences for weight savings and fuel. Anything larger had no business being on a Carrier Deck(Especially a Yorktown-class deck) and wouldn't have worked. Its a miracle that they did what they did with sixteen bombers.
Sometimes I wonder if they used the de Havilland Mosquito instead... superb range, speed, similar load.
@@yatsumleung8618 The US wouldn't have had access to them, they were a British aircraft. Furthermore- they were fighter bombers, so they wouldn't hold as many bombs as a level bomber like the B-25
@@frankydman
More important was that the Mossie didn't enter production until two months after the Doolittle raid. Also, the Mossie could carry a 4000lb bomb load compared to the B-25's 3000lb.
@@chakatfirepaw Huh, I stand corrected then. Still- point still remains that even if the Mosquito was in production, US wouldn't have access to it since it was a British plane (for the same reason that the US didn't have Spitfires or Hurricanes)
Heroes of Doolittle Raid. We are forever grateful of your service
Those guys are the real heroes, not the so-called "heroes" politicians tend to call everyone in uniform today (who haven't done anything heroic) to curry votes.
Every last member should have received the Medal of Honor, not just Doolittle
A few years back the last Doo Little raider died. I remember President Reagan always mentioning the Doolittle raiders. Took years before I realized those guys had balls
@@l.b.7543 The last raider that died was the co-pilot sitting next to Doolittle himself.
It’s a wonder how those bombers launched from a WW2 sized aircraft carrier. Not because it had never been done before, or because there was a great chance they could drop into the sea. It’s a wonder they took off because of the weight they were carrying from the size of the balls of the pilots and aircrew.
Gigantic brass balls were both a blessing and a curse, but the former outweighed the latter. God bless those men.
If im correct you needed 85mph to almost take-off and 120 mph to start climbing on the b-25. But still, a hell of a way to take-off!
an not just that they knew they had no where to land when they took off. they knew they didn't have enough fuel to take off an complete there mission an land I'm friendly territory. they knew this but still went. big ones alot of the WW2 soldiers where that way
God was on their side
they trained for 2 months prior to the mission, not knowing just what they were training for. When they floew the mission, they were very well prepared.
dude, i can just imagine being in a carrier in that time, no satellite image, rudimentary radar tech, man those are some real heros
Doolittle in reality: short bald guy.
Doolittle in Hollywood: generic handsome Hollywood type. Tall, lots of hair.
Yeah I noticed they do that with a lot of White guys in movies lol... American made with Barry Seal. Wolf of Wall street...Yikes.
The guys in his 50s and only 5’10”
I'd like some realism in the casting.
Really, though... I'm afraid that would give us something like Jason Alexander in the part.
Man, the first picture that came to mind was Danny Devito. 🤣
Long before World War II, the chunky, rugged, baldish Jimmy Doolittle, who was just 5 feet 6 inches tall and weighed 160 pounds, was a legendary figure in aviation.
He can't die here, he needs to fight the aliens in Los Angeles in 50 years
He got a job working for ICE?
Hornet's contribution to American aircraft carrier history.
"10 bucks says they don't make it off the deck." This mans just gave up 200 dollars in today's currency LOL
That man is Lieutenant Commander Eugene E. Lindsey. He has 46 days to live. 10 bucks is the least of his problems.
@@stvdagger8074
What happened? When and where did he snuff it?
@@Briselance If you watch the rest of the Midway movie you will see it. He was the Commander of Torpedo 6, a squadron of TBD Devastators which attacked the Japanese fleet. 10 of 14 were shot down. All of their torpedoes missed. Lindsey was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross.
@@stvdagger8074Same kind of torpedos that plagued the US submarine fleet?
@@davidw.2791 No, the TBD used a Mark 13 torpedo which was lighter than the Mark 14 torpedo used by subs. It also lacked the magnetic trigger which caused so many problems for US submariners. The main problem it had was that the launching aircraft had to fly very low and slow, otherwise the torpedo would sink or malfunction. With the swarms of A6M Zero fighters many of the TBDs were shot down before they could launch and many of the others launched out of parameters due to the pressure from the fighters. As they could not make an effective attack with multiple torpedoes from multiple angles, the Japanese Carriers were able to dodge them.
This was a suicide mission that 80 men willingly took it. Though tactically it did little impact to Japan's infrastructures, it was a huge strategic morale booster and eye opening (for both America & Japan). It showed that the Japanese homeland wasn't completely safe and that America with its now smaller military force (after the destruction in Pearl Harbor) still has the ability to strike their heart. If I remember correctly, this raid also led Japan to withdraw some of its naval forces back for homeland defense, which allowed the USN to defeat the IJN in the later on battles (coral sea, midway) that turned the tide of the war.
it force japan to be on the defense and slow down their military conquest of the pacific
Japan played it scared when they absolutely couldn’t afford to. It was all over before it even started.
There were more than 80 men taken aboard CV-8, all the crews taken to Alameda NAS were brought aboard for reasons of substitution and security.
It wasn't a suicide mission though. Most of the men made it back safe and sound
@@HaydenLau.they kinda assumed it was a one way trip and most were pleasantly surprised to pull it off. The fact it wasn’t a suicide mission was utterly humiliating to both the Japanese Army and Navy.
The Doolittle Raid ! Hands-down, one of THE gutsiest, craziest, & most heroic deeds of all-time. PERIOD !! THE GREATEST GENERATION, WITHOUT QUESTION. My Father was part of it, being in the very 1st platoon to land on Guadalcanal. He suffered Dengue Fever, combat fatigue, that took him 21 months to recover from in New Zealand. For his actions, he was awarded The Navy Cross [ USMC ] , & The Purple Heart. He is my hero. ---------WolfSky9, 75 y/o
Of the USA. you forgot to clarify that..
One of my uncles was on the canal as well. Wounded, he spent the rest of the war in a hospital. I remember that because of his wounds his left leg was three inches shorter then his right. Two of his brothers were also Marines during the war, another younger brother was with the Marines at Chosin Reservoir. Semper Fi !
i dunno man, the USS Johnston spitting in the Yamotos face was pretty amazing.
It's crazy how realistic the engine sounds were. Being there, in theaters, when the movie was put out, I could FEEl how it was to fly one of those B-25s. It was incredible, to say the least.
The B-25 was a loud airplane to fly-not just because of the engines but the prop was breaking the sound barrier about 6' from the pilot's head the whole time the engine was running. It was a primary reason the Mitchell wasn't popular as a post war executive transport.
Had dinner with Jonna Doolittle Hoppes, his grand daughter. She was on the set of Pearl Harbor. Said Baldwin wanted to have Doolittle cursing a blue streak. Said her grandfather didnt curse..When Spencer Tracy got the part Tracy called him and asked him if he approved of him playing Doolittle. Big difference in actors.
Tojo: "Emperor, if a single bomb falls on Tokyo, you can call me Meyer."
Hirohito: "Did anyone else hear that?"
After Doolittle crash landed in China, he thought everyone had been lost, the Mission was a complete failure, and that he would be court martialed upon returning to the US.
Instead, he was awarded the Medal of Honor, promoted two grades from LTCOL to Brigadier General, and was transferred to England, where he assisted Ira Eaker and Carl Spaatz in forming the Eighth Air Force to commence the European Daylight Bombing campaign against Germany.
and he almost died to some german fighters at one point but for some reason they didn't finish him off
Cleekmaker00 why would he be court martialed
@@tylerchapman7846 It’s possible to mess something up so badly that they throw you in prison.
@@hansgruber9685 ahh ok
@@tylerchapman7846 he went against orders…he was ordered to wait until he was in range.
I think this scene could be used for a video introduction. Doolittle says, "If you subscribe, then we will be the first enemy in Japan's history to hit their home territory."
"We all want to subscribe sir"
Gold
@@tylersaurusakroFour hundred million Likes from the citizens of the then RoC.
Desperate times require desperate measures with avaliable resources. One who dare, becomes inspiration in history like General Doolittle and his 80 raiders. One of the most daring raids in aviation history,which changed the perspective of Japanese invincibility in pacific region
The thing most people forget about the takeoff run is that it is Airspeed, so when the bird farm turns into a 30 Knot wind doing 25 Knots, you're doing 55 knots when you're standing still!!! (This is also why people get blown off of the flight deck for "no apparent reason"!)
There's a very thin line between bravery and batshit insanity
It's amazing how they managed to take off with those massive steel balls on board
Doolittle lived a lifetime. Died in 1993 51 years after the raid.
Japanese: "That's imposible! "
Americans "Not today."
Better: "No, It’s necessary"
@@charles07km83 Better: Hold my beer.
I had the honor of meeting Doolittle's co-pilot at a Houston gun show several decades ago. He was very inspiring, like all those brave young men who took part in this daring raid. They were supposed to get within 400 miles, but as noted, had to launch at 650. Most made it, and many survived. There was little physical damage to Tokyo, but the morale boost for America was overwhelming. Japan was insulted that America date attack their sacred homeland, but had no such reservations attacking PH - and without a declaration of war against a nation at peace.
Love the fact that Doolittles raid is at least indirectly responsible for why we have catapults on carries.
No need to worry about takeoff distance of you can accelerate the plane to takeoff speed
Even then, you still need the carrier going around 30 knots into the wind for headwind over the deck to actually be able to completly launch planes off the deck, even modern planes
@@bomber6258 that's still leagues better than what Dolittle had to deal with
@@codymcginley6823 True, as the B25 was not designed for carriers, but still had the basic qualifications such as radial engine for increased raw power (why all WW2 naval aircraft used radials)
No. Both the Hornet, Yorktown and Enterprise had hydraulic catapults on them at that time. ALL the carriers in the US Fleet during WW2 had catapults. However, the British invented the steam catapult which enabled them (and later on the Americans when they adopted it) to launch heavier aircraft from the decks. The brits also invented the mirrored landing system, which is still in use today, as well as the angled deck which enables aircraft to go-around if the hook doesn't catch a wire.
@@Nghilifa First off, While the Yorktown class carrier did indeed have catapults, they were rarely used hangar deck catapults originally placed there to scramble planes for air defense. Barely a year into WW2, these hangar catapults were removed from Enterprise and Hornet, while Yorktown most likely sank with them before they could be removed.
Wikipedia also does note this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorktown-class_aircraft_carrier#:~:text=The%20Yorktowns%20carried%20a%20seldom,Hornet%20in%20late%20June%201942.
Other USN carriers had the same story. The Lexington class ships had a starboard catapult meant to launch seaplanes, but was rarely used to do so as these carriers rarely would have fielded seaplanes in the first place. Besides this catapult was flywheel powered, not hydraulic.
USS Ranger had three catapults, two hangar deck ones for observation planes. These were dropped early on to save cost. USS Independence only had a carrier after her 1944 repairs, where she was damaged attempting to use night fighter technology to defense against a Betty bomber rather than radar guided aa guns.
escort carriers had catapults more often, although still not very much, seen in the Bogue class ships with one side catapult that could just barely launch a fully combat loaded Wildcat (6,260 pound plane, 3.2 short ton/ 6,400 pound max launch capacity)
It was only until the Essex class carrier and only until late 1944-1945 that catapults became used more consistently in carriers, and even then only around 40% of all sorties. Catapults were seen to only reduce the speed of carrier sorties due to having to hook each plane and then launch, rather than sequentially taking off without any delays in between.
Hollywood really was unable to exaggerate how epic that launch was.
Brave hearts with nerves of steel….
Doolittle was one crazy sob. He could also talk with animals, as I heard.
He made the idea work! He worked out the details and trained the crews convinced the higher-ups it could work.
So, I'm an Army veteran and a lifelong military historian. This particular telling of the Midway story suffers from some incredibly poor casting choices and some lousy CGI, but it does tell the history of the Battle of Midway far more factually than the 1976 version.
Something largely unknown by most casual historians is the respect and reverence the Doolittle Raiders were held in by the Air Corps/ Army Air Forces /USAF. Even aircrews with multiple missions over Europe held the Doolittle flyers in the highest possible regard. This mission was the Great Raid for American aircrews, a proving point showing that American flyers had what it took and were willing to pay the price, whatever it was, for victory.
No one else has ever flown a B-25 off a carrier deck.
@@patrickkenyon2326 Or was crazy enough to try.... Just cuz somebody else did it doesn't mean you can.
@@carlhicksjr8401 Truth.
My father was a Ww2 fighter pilot, who served for 40 years, finally retiring at the rank of Lt. Col.
He had nothing but respect for the Dolittle Raiders.
2:05
$10 in 1941 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $189.08 today
this guy balling with them casual $200 bets lmao
Lindsey a Lt Cmdr, was probably making over $300 a month.
About a days wage for some. They sure gambled big over wether someone was gonna live or die.
Given their life expectancy, I am sure that they would be casual about money. The 'guy' who made the bet, Lt Commander Lindsey, would be dead in 49 days.
i saw devil dog a blue B-25 takeoff upclose here in Houston. i was maybe like a 50 feet walk away from the runway, the vibration those 2 radial engines made was INSANE it shocked our little car and the inside of our organs. the pilot held for a few seconds while she built up RPM and then let go off the brakes. those 8 seconds where probably the best ones of last years. i cant even imagine how it looked and sounded like while on the dolittle raid. one was loud now imagine 16! if only time travel becomes possible on my lifetime i would go there first day
Imagine the titanium balls and sheer love of country these men had. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
The Spencer Tracy movie "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" remains the best movie ever made about this event. And even though it was made in the early 1940s the special effects still beats the modern CGI.
92-93 I was taking Tagalog at DLI Monterey and was on my way home to Salinas when I spotted a formation of prop fighters and bombers (plus one transport) overhead. I actually got out of my car to look. Turns out, COL Doolittle lived in Carmel and they were on their way to salute him on his birthday. I believe he passed away a couple of years later.
God bless these men who fought in a strange land. True warriors who honestly really made the mold on bravery for America.
The inaccuracy of this raid portrayed in Bay's Pearl Harbor was that the weather was calm while in real life and in this movie was stormy.
That storm is, in my opinion, the only reason they were able to launch. USS Hornet was sailing at 20+ knots into a full blown gale blowing directly at the Hornet. The wind blowing over the B 25’s wing gave those bombers the extra lift they needed to launch.
No, the inaccuracy is that the raid did not use fighter pilots from Hawaii to pilot the b-25s, because "Doolittle wanted the planes to be flown like fighters." Flying over-loaded b-25s like fighters would have been disastrous. Instead they sensibly used crews with extensive multi-engine experience, who had been training with the newish b-25s since they were introduced.
@@stvdagger8074 , another thing I forgot to put but thanks.
Ive been on many cruises and work ups ON A CARRIER, and have never been in seas like those shown here,EVER.
Gotta love how everyone replying to the pinned comment is a legal, firearm, and film expert.
Man, Eckhart's performance, especially in this clip, is much, much more subdued than Alec Baldwin's in Pearl Harbor. He was so over the top that even Ben Affleck was riffing on him in the DVD commentary.
I personally enjoyed Alec baldwins performance much more, as well as the entire portrayal of the Doolittle raids in Pearl Harbor rather then Midway
@@eddiemoran8044 Same, I don't care which movie is better.
Worth noting, those are good weather in Northern Pacific.
We had auto plants change from building cars to planes in less than a month. The ultimate “ Oh sh*t” moment for our enemies.
Tiny issue. Unlike Yorktown and Enterprise, Hornet's mast was not covered.
I am not sure why you think there is a need to even bring that up at all. The entire movie just copy and paste ship models and are full of inaccuracy (ship wise) anyways 😂. There are way more mistakes than that one bit.
@@belfast4893 oh you mean how Lexington was a Yorktown?
@@ph89787 That’s one. There are far too many mistakes to even create a list when it comes to the ship models they used and I haven’t watched the entire movie since it came out. It I want to revisit Midway, then I’d rather much prefer a proper documentary or grab a book.
Another notable mistake I recall was mixing up Akagi and Kaga, Hiryu and Soryu. There were certain scenes where the mix up the pair of carriers, which definitely lead to some confusion.
The destroyers if not mistaken are also all copy and paste, and some even have a torpedo launcher in place of it’s forward gun mount...
@@belfast4893 dude said a tiny issue, why did you feel any reason to respond.
Some men are just special. What do you think Halsey would say if you told him that morning that Doolittle would live another 50+ years?
I will say that the raid in the film was done very accurately but sadly I would have to give the most accurate award to the film "Peal Harbor". I say this because in Midway they did the scene fully CGI where as in Pearl Harbor they actually launched B-25's off a carrier for the film.
"Pearl Harbour" massacred history by having fighter pilots from Hawaii fly the Doolittle raid. They even show some of those pilots acting as bombers and navigators. Those pilots had likely never even seen a B-25 in December 1941. They try to justify it my giving the actor (Alec Baldwin) playing Doolittle a stupid line "I want pilots who will fly B-25s like fighters" . The B-25s were overloaded with fuel and bombs. They even removed guns to allow extra fuel to be carried. If Ben Affleck had tried Fighter maneuvers in a B-25 loaded like that the plane would have crashed. What they needed for the raid were pilots with extensive multi-engine aircraft experience, who had been flying the first B-25s in service and navigators and bombardiers who specialized in that skill. Of course that is what the real pilots were. At least "Midway" did not to use the same cast for 2 different battles, except having their Enterprise crew witness the start of the raid as that was historical.
0:32 some top secret sketchy shit
I believe, and I'm not sure if it's officially documented, that this is the first time a land based aircraft of such size and load has taken off from a carrier until the C-130 trials on the USS Forrestal in the 60s.
Never piss off the United States Army. They'll take their planes, shove them onto Navy ships, sail across an ocean, and bomb your capital 4 months after you tried to prove to them that you were invincible.
The Army will teach you a very important lesson:
You're *not.*
My Grandfather served on the Hornet. What I would give to hear the stories as an adult, now that I understand more. These men were truly the greatest... What happened America.
Really?
The sounds exciting. I happen to be a big enthusiast about WWII history, thanks to Azur Lane and KanColle.
Did he ever tell you any stories at all?
If so, I'd love to hear about it.
Brakes on, power up to full Throttle, release brakes, then away you go.
Also time your takeoff so the bow of the carrier is pushing you up in the air?
Flaps! You forgot the flaps!
That was a bit in 30 Seconds Over Tokyo. I don't know how much of an embellishment or fabrication it was. One of the bombers successfully launches - after which the pilot realizes he had failed to set the flaps.
been looking for this scene for a while, just wish it was better quality. Either way thanks.
Let this sink in...the insane shit this guys pulled off was so.....insane that there was no need of Hollywood going full Hollywood to make it epic.
Enterprise: "A sis i told you to bring Dive Bombers not Frontline Bombers"
Hornet: "HAHA BOMB GO BRBRBRBR"
MAX POWER
oh wait wrong movie
It was a small raid. But greatly improved morale. It showed Japan could be hit. And it was.
And it had the effect of removing Japanese Army objections to the Midway plan. This consequence was of tremendous importance.
@Paul Dietz exactly it halted the Japanese conquest of the Pacific. It forced Japan to be on the defensive
Crazy how much more realistic a michael bay film looked compared to this.
Read his autobiography a few years ago, Doolittle did a lot!
Salute these brave men! they were called the greatest generation
I am surprised the Chinese censors allowed the phrase, "Free China" into this movie.
My father was on the USS San Fransico at Midway. Thanks, Dad.
While the USS San Francisco took part in some of the carrier operations in Early 1942, she was not at Midway. In June 1942, the ship was escorting convoy PW 2076 from San Francisco, made up of transports carrying the 37th Army Division, destined for Suva, and special troops bound for Australia. The cruiser remained in the escort force as far as Auckland, New Zealand. There she steamed for Hawaii, arriving at Pearl Harbor on 29 June. Thus she missed Midway
@@stvdagger8074 Dads been gone a long time and he wouldn't speak of it much. That was my recollection. Thanks
Must be cool a movie about the Doolittle Raid
The man who doesn't need introduction.
Doolittle. The legend among legends.
Este escuadrón de bombarderos que hicieron un ataque sobre tokyo y posteriormente debieron seguir hasta territorio chino para aterrizar al azar en cualquier condición,fue una de las mayores hazañas y muestra de un valor superior durante la segunda guerra mundial.
The best reason of this whole scene is because it sets up what everyone back then called "Japanese Victory Disease" setting the stage fot the attempted conquest of Midway Atoll, which the codebreakers of Station Hypo cracked the Japanese Naval code JN-25, allowing Adm. Chester Nimitz to have 3 American carriers in a position to surprise the Imperial Japanese Navy, sinking 4 carriers and a heavy cruiser to losing the carrier Yorktown and the destroyer Hammann!
I wish they would do a modern remake of 30 Seconds Over Tokyo. Doolittle was one of my heroes growing up, and still is.
What makes this even more amazing is the fact none of the bombers got shot down over Tokyo.
They flew in low, hard and fast
Too low for anti aircraft guns and in and out so fast the fighters had a hard time finding them
Makes sense, Tokyo would have had minimal Radar if any available as the Japanese were Waaaaay behind the Americans in that field. You'd have had to spot them by sight, and if you didn't know they were coming, why would you be looking. I mean hell, we spotted the planes from pearl harbor before the attack on our shitty radar but we didn't believe it.
'Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo' was TONS better... theatrics and accuracy.
0:33 Joe Blake has gone into another universe to win the war for the allies.
what a name.. do little.. did alot.
Admiral Halsey explaining the mission to the Enterprise captain is hilarious because Captain Browning was heavily involved in the planning and execution of the Doolittle raid.
My fave was the fly boys from the other ship saying, what are army planes doing here? Like you haven’t been steaming to Japan with those big Mitchels on the deck, since Hawaii? Unless I’m missing something, the expo dialogue was kinda clunky
Literally opens with a "You gotta come see this cliche". Where's cinema sins when you need him.
Doolittle raid scene brings me back to Pearl Harbor with Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett
God bless these men. May those still alive tell their stories, so we can be blessed with historic and Nobel information
Why the age restriction? This is American History and should be available to all Americans.
Because War?
Cuando te digan que es imposible recuerda que el coronel james doolitle logro lanzar un ataque desde un portaaviones, conduciendo un bombardero B25 bi motor cosa que era inpensable ya que no estaban diseñados para los portaaviones de la epoca, lanzarlo, bombardear tokyo y sobrevivir a los japoneses en su suelo
Less than a decade after this, Japan became the most important ally of the US in the Pacific.
Doolittle got promoted from Lt. Colonel to Brigadier General for this, jumping right over being a full Colonel.
Dennis Quaid was an interesting choice for Admiral Halsey.
I like the roll he played in the film
@@timf2279---Agreed
@@brokenbridge6316 a bit young and not as salty as the Admiral, however he has the facial features and that great smile. Most pictures show Halsey as frowning. Halsey definitely had Resting bitch face, also known as RBF, or bitchy resting face (BRF).
@@timf2279---Yeah he wasn't the best person to look at. But I like to think he got the job done. Which is what mattered.
@@brokenbridge6316 I agree. He was a saving grace for the US Navy in the Pacific during the first half of the War. If it wasn't for him it would have been a complete disaster, especially in the South Pacific.
"what the hell are army planes doing on the carrier” got me dying
The acting is so bad in this movie.
Imagine how many drones you could fit! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS!
It's been *80 years*
That was as high risk of a mission you can get after you just lost almost your whole fleet at Pearl. Seriously I don't know how the fuck these ships didn't sink alone under the weight of their balls.
Where did they come from?
They came from Shangri-La.
That is what FDR said!
They had no idea if it would work
This entire mission was done simply to tell imperial Japan, “we can touch you.”
Where's Rafe and Danny
Where they have always been, fictional creatures made up by Micheal Bay who steal the glory from real people (George Welch and Kenneth M. Taylor, the Doolittle Raiders & American pilots who volunteered to fight in the RAF).
When will Hollywood figure out how we actually render a salute. Good grief, gets worse every movie.
Dude I just kinda cringed at the entire scene…
Hey, at least they hold the salute until the higher ranking person salutes back. Unlike movies where officer salute the enlisted (Oof)
Doolittle was nuts but in war you gotta be kinda crazy
I mean, it really was the only way they could pull something like this off. Not like at this point in the war they had any land based airstrips close to mainland Japan.
Absolutely the GREATEST GENERATION
This scene was much better on Pearl Harbor
No sé che, Michael bay logro muy bien la escena del ataque , sobre todo teniendo en cuenta que era algo secundario ya que la intención principal era recrear el ataque japonés, además no hubo cgi en las escenas de despegue y tengo entendido que Josh harnet, Alec y Ben affleck tuvieron clases de vuelo para poder manejar por momentos los b25