I feel this should go without saying but I’ve been around long enough to know I sometimes need to say the obvious. The GT4 gameplay is NOT from a normal PS2, it’s from the PS2 emulator PCSX2, and features many enhancements that improve the looks of the game. When you play anything, I believe you should play it at its max potential, hence why I play on the emulator. More information is in the description.
Some games look better in SD (and on tube TVs) because that's what they were designed for, especially PS1 era games that had lots of dithering and 2D low res UI elements
@@arthurb5194 Especially PS2 generation games! When you put them on a HD or 4K monitor TV or otherwise, then they have to stretch the game picture to accommodate for all those extra dots, thus giving an extremely pixelated and sometimes blurry look.. (Minus Gran Turismo four, which is able to output to 1080i which I’ve never had an HD TV and a PlayStation 2 at the same time even though I’ve had nearly 30 PS twos in its lifespan!)
Absolutely bud. But the raw engine is there and still incredibly impressive for the time. 60fps at a decent resolution. Light and detail was amazing at the time and still holds up well. . Yes you've enhanced it but the essence remains.
@@volkte37 For me all I see it as is it just as good as how your memory remembers it looking!! Even though it does look really good running on a good emulator!!
You'd think people would assume it's not the standard PS2 version, considering you blatantly say in the title "4K". But expecting people on the internet to have half a brain is a bit much these days, unfortunately.
Gran Turismo 7 nails it perfectly and Gran Turismo 4 had a best graphic for 2004 standards, but only problem is the engine sound , they ound like a vespa or a scooter
@@Mabro29 yeah I thought this to be the case because back in the day on PS2 in third person camera the camera did not let you see down the side of the car that much in other words the camera was very tightly locked to the rear of the car and they did this as a means of making third person camera control better but I did not like it as much but thank God they added hood car view!!
I'm amazed how good GT4 looks with just a better resolution. The details, the textures and the models were there but the low resolution on the original system hided them. I play it in PCSX2 with my g923 and it's a fairly solid experience even in todays standards. Good video.
Come on you guys Must have Realised what’s Happening. The Resolution and FPS Push is Stagnating Games, Everything is a Trade off. Resolution at FPS before pro gaming used to be Balanced with graphical substance, and Game content and features 30fps To 60fps is basically Linear, So takes Double the Performance, So conversely you have Half the Graphics and features 4K is 80% more demanding than 1080p, Think, That means GT7 could almost Double in Graphical Substance at 1080p 60 over what it is, and at 1080p 30 it could be 280% better Graphically It’s not Gran Turismo 4 achieved something spectacular graphically, its just modern developers listen to the lowest common denominator of stupid kids and competitive pro gaming shills, So most Games Now are 4K 60 FPS on Decade old game engines and two decade old game mechanics CS - Fortnite
@@aaronsmith7143 Same here, I always had my ps2 hooked up with AV components cable to my rear projection TV and it blew my mind. That was way before the HD/flat screen era became mainstream.
@@aaronsmith7143 it wasn't ever real 1080i, it was mostly only the menus that render in 1080i, the rest of the game was much closer to the standard 480i, you can look this up online, it's been discussed many times and interlaced video would look garbage on youtube
It was good, but not that amazing with Forza and Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox looking much better in terms of visuals. PGR even the first you could already even see the brake calipers move when braking. But emulation is the way to go for GT4 nowadays for sure, it looks miles better than the original PS2
@@guily6669 not really if you’re comparing to playing the original Gran Turismo four on a standard definition TV versus playing Gran Turismo four with mods and enhancements on an HD or 4K TV today?! Mods make basically make the game look on a 4K or HD TV as good as it did back then on a standard definition good flatscreen picture tube television! That’s how I feel about it and I mean that’s the truth- Both Gran Turismo three and Gran Turismo four looked incredible on the technology they were designed for- When playing them on a much newer television, you have to add enhancements and increase the resolution and all that bullshit just to make it look incredible again
@@guily6669 also in terms of the track in the background and what not, Forza did not look as good overall is Gran Turismo4- And Forza also gets some car models like the Acura/Honda NSX wrong.. they just can’t seem to design the polygon count for that back window right in the car just looks weird?!??? But again the graphics, Overall were better on PS2’s Gran Turismo4! Sure for the time having car models where you can see in the car was nice and all that shit.. but that didn’t make the game look better overall
@Khlad Ali relax, he was just giving his opinion and even gave a bit of detail as why. He wasn't being troll and just bashing the game. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a fan boy...
Xbox had better on forza and Project Gotham Racing... Also the models look miles better here because it's emulated and gets so much better than the original PS2 visuals
@@guily6669 i have both ps2 and og xbox - Project Gotham Racing 2 while having much nicer looking tracks (they look awesome, early xbox 360 quality), had really uneven and often poorly made car models. Some looked decent, but there were many that had clear issues with lower quality lights, or bad proportions (kinda like cars in NFS Hot Pursuit 2 on ps2). Also all car paints looked very fake, very matte. Forza Motorsport had much better looking cars than PGR2, but i wouldn't say they were better than gt models - whey were more on less on par - gaining at some elements and loosing at others. Enthusia Professiona Racing on ps2 was a true hidden gem of the generation, and although also uneven, had really good looking car models. In the end i think GT3 and GT4 cars holds up best, because they work flawlessly with the lighting system GT3 and GT4 had. They are good enough to not look all that bad in GT5 and 6 (although i still believe polyphony made mistake adding last gen models no next gem games, even if they weren't all that bad for the most part).
GT4 in replays had some kind of jerks and imperfections in camera panning and this is what made them more lifelike, like a human with TV broadcast camera trying to keep up with cars, not like some robot. In GT7 every camera pan is pixel perfect, it would be cool if they introduce those imperfections in camera panning back to GT7, IMO it would add to the realism of replays :)
GT4 looks decent in 4K60, but the level of detail and lighting accuracy in GT7 looks even more amazing with them side by side like this. Everything just looks much more natural and lifelike, not stale like GT4. Not to mention the sound is absolutely incredible in GT7. Reverberating throughout the racetrack with other cars and also the fact that the sounds are directional, like all sounds are.
GT4 was such a good game. I remember grabbing the wrx hatch from the used car shop and getting it to run a 8.1ish second 1000 meter. Was basically untouchable
That corkscrew made me suffer so much when I was a beginner but eventually became one of my favorite parts of Laguna Seca to the point I used to challenge myself to see how fast I could clear that section with different cars.
The Emotion engine was great made a lot of games played great and looked great if you were to squint your eyes the graphics both games look nearly identical as for the PS2 was 4 generations ago which is very impressive, but Sony should've made a Emotion Engine II for the PS3 and maybe it would turned out differently it could have been the best PlayStation console ever made if it did.
@@gabrielsingal209 as another GT player who acquired gold on every test in every game ever, I do feel these emotions on about six or seven tests in each game leading up to GT6, when they became so easy to gold, that it was like playing Forza..
Cell was literally continuation of ps2 architecture. And despite ignorant people criticizing it, it was a beast. Just look at all the gemes in ps3 era that did groundbraking stuff... Cell is more pwerful than the cpu ps4 came with which is why we havent seen games really progress much. ND said while doing The Last of remaster that Cell is actually more powerful than what they had to work with in ps4.
Dude, please, that's not how GT4 ran on the original hardware. This is running on an emulator, enhanced and upscaled as hell. If you put the original next to GT7, there's a gulf in quality.
When I first drove this car, I immediately fell in love with it. I even named it, The King of all race cars. I'm so glad they brought it back in Gran Turismo 7.
Its insane how GT4 just looks like GT7... okay, there are details msising and reflections but besides that, it looks like GT7 on lowest graphic settings... Really insane when keeping in mind it is 3 Generations older.
I'm shocked no one is actually talking about how horrible the sound is for the GT7 car. It's almost like its bugged/sound swapped. It sounds like a flat plane v6 or something. Not even remotely like a supercharged v8.
Just mentioning that GT4 was running with an emulator which makes graphics better than real console. Some ppl are forgetting it before commenting here.
Man, people can say what they want about GT7's graphics, this comparison really shows how far games in general have come and I love to see it! Especially with the sound, what a stark difference, lol. Nonetheless, GT4 really does hold a special place in my heart~
I like how you got the camera to rotate like the previous Gran Turismos. GT4 was amazing, but….the stiff 3rd person camera view forced me to play from the hood cam. And it was a trend that unfortunately continued. GT sport does have good camera rotation (if you changed it in the options). GT7 has the option as well but it’s still too stiff to the car.
Caramba... Os modelos dos carros do gt4 eram realmente muito bons pra época , obviamente que o jogo não rodava nessa resolução ,mais mesmo assim depois de tantos anos consegue surpreender.
GT7 doesn't look as much better as you would expect. I remember playing GT4 when it came out. It had a pseudo 1080i mode that looked amazing. It looked so good that it held up to 360 and PS3 games. It's amazing how far they pushed the PS2 with GT4.
I've prefer GT4 sound detail. If you listen it, it has a bit whining sound like supercharger. Since the original Ford GT 2005 has supercharged V8 (idk if the concept also has supercharger, since GT LM Spec II based on the concept GT)
Greetings from Indonesia🇮🇩 I think PS2 Version is very Masterpiece. Especially if you play it through the PCSX2 Emulator, the Graphics can also be adjusted according to our wishes That is Why I Love Gran Turismo 4 because this Game is One of my Favorite Racing Game, also one of the Best Racing Game in the World. I still Playing with Game, even though I'm Play with PCSX2 for Now 2022 👏👏👏
GT4 looks great for its age, but what i'm most impressed by, is how accurate the track model is. Obviously the kerbs and run offs have changed over the years, but disregarding that it's extremely accurate. GT4 was way ahead of its time
Man I love the interior view of GT7, I really appreciate how the head bobs around unlike in previous games. If only it didn't have the DRM, then I would get it on my PS4. Mainly because I don't want to go online and update my firmware anymore
Na real, o gran turismo 4 ainda continua insuperável, era mais bonito graficamente, era a tela mais limpa sem tantas informações, adorava o piloto automático, manoqueria o GT 7 com essa função de novo
I play GT4 on an original console, and it looks just as good on an emulator. Depends on the TV you are playing. 3d models cant look better, the textures can only have anisotropic filtering set to x16 to make the quality of the textures a bit sharper and thats it. Either people have very bad memory or never played GT4 on the OG console in the first place.
That isn’t exactly true. Even with a retrotink, PS2 will never look as good as Emulation upscaling. Coming from someone who’s had a PS2 since 2002 and emulated since 2020. PS2 is very pixelated and hard to see detail compared to a progressive scan upscale
@@RowdyGT yes but the difference isnt so noticable if ur using a CRT screen with a small resolution. Atleast i dont notice it. But i don't suffer much for that kind of thing, im a guy that loves to play it how it was originally intended.
You could attach reshade on the emulator and add the levels + sharpen filters, it would improve the way the texture looks on the cars, including its decals. Set reshade to opengl.
Since gt7 added all these customizations, we should be able to cruise or race and have the opportunity to look around our car while driving 3rd person and enjoy our car build. I don't know why they never add this
@@ConnorH2111 all I'm saying is, I myself and I know many others would like to see around our cars, like need for speed for instance, it would make the game that much better. I know this game isn't need for speed but hey, why add these cosmetic customizations and not be able to see them?
* Laughing in Forza horizon * I am a GTfan too btw gt7 is awesome this is just for the laughs and to contribute with your comment just WHY do I have to turn on my Xbox when I just want to cruise with a nice build... I've been dreaming of doing this since GT5 and that's why I bought an Xbox to begin with ... Im grinding the shit out on gt to modify and make my cars feel like they're mine but damn would love to cruise
Man, looking at my phone from a distance, they both look similar. I don't know if that's a knock on GT7 or GT4 is that great. For some reason GT7 has too much bloom off sun reflections.
*🇧🇷❤️o Gran Turismo 4 não faz feio, eu jogava ele em 2010 e batia de frente com qualquer jogo da época, único defeito era o som e a falta de noite/dia, agora nunca houve um simulador mais completo que ele. Só faltou a categoria F1 👏👏👏👏*
Man there's something about the engine noise of the the GT in GT4 that makes it so cool. Interesting they tried a diff engine noise on GT7, I thought they were going to use the same engine noise as the GT test car. But sound pretty cool too.
Gran turismo 4 is just a legendary game, even in ps2 resolution is the best racing game ever created, 700+ cars, 100+ tracks, a lot of upgrades for your car, licenses, but gran turismo 7 is really good compared to gran turismo sport
Have to admit gt4 is still very much a playable game considering it’s the console generations behind. I know it’s not actually the ps2 version but we’re still talking about a game that was produced nearly two decades ago.
Man, I remember back in the day, 1080i on a PS2, with this graphics at rock solid 60fps??!(talking about ps2 original, obviously, not emu), what amazed me were the rally stages, they were absolutely gorgeous: chamonix, citta di aria and rocky mountains. I put countless hours on this one and 1&2 on the PS1 also (I fucking loved the soundtrack of the 1st gran turismo and his techno oriented presentation, starting from 2 and afterwards, the music and the menus were made "too snobby" for my taste.
I think that it's very telling that the first thing I noticed was the sound design. GT7 is noticiably superior in that regard. But as far as graphics go, GT4 is absolutely impressive given its age.
I’m sorry but GT4 can’t be topped. The amount/ the difference variety of cars where insane!! I’m glad it will have a ps2 and GT4. That being said I believe that GT7 got overhyped!! And there are a lot more of the generic/boring cars
Crazy how GT4 shifts sound more realistic than 7, they should pour the same effort of visuals into the sounds. I love these games and played them all since the 1st came out!
Imagine B-Spec returning with GT Sophy, that will surely justify using Sophy as your B-Spec driver, training through machine learning as you give it orders.
GTA4 & Tourist Trophy were a whole generation ahead of their time...maybe two...and only held back by the power of the consoles. I'd love to see them go back to those as a base and build from there. GT7 looks awesome though and is the one game that makes me want a PS5.
Its honestly crazy to think that GT4 was 3 generations behind GT7, but if they released the game today with these enhancements it honestly makes it look like just around 2 or 3 years behind. I had GT4 when I had a PS2 and my puny, little kid brain was blown away by the graphics at the time. Gran Turismo is honestly still on top there as one of my favorite racing games. (My favorite racing games is DriveClub and Racedriver Grid : )
I don't know but the game looks super real while cam position in cockpit but when the guy is shifting the car it looks like his too relaxed 😂 I think they need to fix this make it a little more aggressive look for shifting
Love how cars use to move on curves on GT1 up to GT4. After GT5 the rear of the cars are almost a freezed imagem while the whole environment moves around you
my first gran turismo game. And also my favorite and only one which I completed 100% Baack then I was shocked how good it looked, the amount of cars and tracks they could deliver to ps2
All of those gt cars in gt4 they missing a lot of them on gt7 like for example 1. The panoz Esperanta gt1 2. lister storm 3. Toyota t one much more cars
The big difference is that you'll still be able to play GT4 in the future, which you won't with the always-online GT7 once the servers are taken down when the day comes.
watching GT4 in 4k just proves how little things have really evolved graphically. Its pretty shocking. I mean yer sure all the little details are much more refined but there definitely wasn't that 'wow' factor between the 2 and I could instantly tell that GT7 wasn't even close to looking legitimately real. So despite the improvements, we're clearly still some way off photorealism. the difference was definitely more noticeable on the replays thanks to the ray tracing on GT7, and obviously the soundtracks of the cars was much better on GT7. But overall GT4 still looks awesome in 4k by todays standards.
that's because their is not a lot to see but compare that with other racing games or even circuit like trial mountain and you will see how much better games look today, forza horizone 5 makes it even more clear.
Games have come so far since the 6th generation. The PS2 probably couldn't render a single car from GT7 because the poly count is far too high. As much as I love the way 6th gen visuals the don't hold a candle to modern stuff. You can also see how far it has come. The trees in GT4 are just two planes with a tree texture on them. The crowds are not only far lower in density but are no where near the detail level of GT7. The lighting looks good because it was mostly pre baked into the scene meaning it was already pre calculated and baked into the textures themselves. Any real time shadows were just on the car and those aren't technically shadow maps like what are used today. Games from then are so far behind what can be done today
Thanks for doing this. Today if you offered the GT4 experience for $99 (including hardware) versus GT7 for $599 (including hardware) a bunch of consumers would take the $99 option. GT7 does not feel like ~18 years worth of improvements/innovation.
Looks great visually, but I noticed that the AI still hasn't mastered late breaking. Humans have an inherent instinct the machines will never comprehend.
People keep talking about the sound, I don't mind... I think it's good enough. Because I never know how a car would sound like when I keep following it from behind at a perfect range...
More than 20 years in the business and they still can't figure out what a V8 sounds like. Sure looks gorgeous though. Also will polyphony ever recognize that not every single manual is a sequential? You can literally see him shifting by hand.
Gran Turismo seven kicks it off and the graphical department it was awesome when Gran Turismo four put that PS2 to its limits but now Gran Turismo seven is pushing a PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 4 pro to its limits
the chase cam from GT4 is less rigid than GT7, it is similar to Gt sport and better. It's inexplicable why Polyphony took the camera options from GT sport without taking over the same amplitude of the settings, forbidding us to make a really nice third camera .
I have to say GT4 looks far better than GT7, yes GT7 has lens flare and better reflections but i have come to race not look at the secery. Yes i know this is running on PCSX2 and yes i know he's running at 4K (i myself run the games at 8K internal resolution which is then downscaled to 1080p) which is much better then the PS2's default 480p
Obviously the graphics are better on the PS5 but honestly the biggest difference I noticed was the V8 sounds like a V8 in GT7. I miss GT4, I think I'm gonna start playing it again soon. Racing slicks for all cars in all races!
I feel this should go without saying but I’ve been around long enough to know I sometimes need to say the obvious.
The GT4 gameplay is NOT from a normal PS2, it’s from the PS2 emulator PCSX2, and features many enhancements that improve the looks of the game. When you play anything, I believe you should play it at its max potential, hence why I play on the emulator. More information is in the description.
Some games look better in SD (and on tube TVs) because that's what they were designed for, especially PS1 era games that had lots of dithering and 2D low res UI elements
@@arthurb5194 Especially PS2 generation games! When you put them on a HD or 4K monitor TV or otherwise, then they have to stretch the game picture to accommodate for all those extra dots, thus giving an extremely pixelated and sometimes blurry look..
(Minus Gran Turismo four, which is able to output to 1080i which I’ve never had an HD TV and a PlayStation 2 at the same time even though I’ve had nearly 30 PS twos in its lifespan!)
Absolutely bud. But the raw engine is there and still incredibly impressive for the time. 60fps at a decent resolution. Light and detail was amazing at the time and still holds up well. .
Yes you've enhanced it but the essence remains.
@@volkte37 For me all I see it as is it just as good as how your memory remembers it looking!!
Even though it does look really good running on a good emulator!!
You'd think people would assume it's not the standard PS2 version, considering you blatantly say in the title "4K". But expecting people on the internet to have half a brain is a bit much these days, unfortunately.
GT4's graphics and car models was really ahead of its time. A real masterpiece
JoJo fans never lie
Yeah but they were a bit worse than in this video. The guy is using an emulator, and probably it has enhanced graphics because of it
@@marcosneto9412 1080i ps2 console
@Gabriel No…
And game bike is tourist trophy really good ....good job for pholyphony digital
Gran Turismo 7 nails it perfectly and Gran Turismo 4 had a best graphic for 2004 standards, but only problem is the engine sound , they ound like a vespa or a scooter
Gt4 just info is modified for emulator PC
@@Mabro29 I know, I didnt say the best graphic. I say the best graphic in 2004 standards
@@Mabro29 yeah I thought this to be the case because back in the day on PS2 in third person camera the camera did not let you see down the side of the car that much in other words the camera was very tightly locked to the rear of the car and they did this as a means of making third person camera control better but I did not like it as much but thank God they added hood car view!!
Gt7 has the BEST graphics ever for a Racing Game.
@@turismofoegaming8806 but Horizon 5 is arcade.
I'm amazed how good GT4 looks with just a better resolution. The details, the textures and the models were there but the low resolution on the original system hided them. I play it in PCSX2 with my g923 and it's a fairly solid experience even in todays standards. Good video.
You could at least play it at 1080i with the right cables. It kinda blew my mind back then
Come on you guys Must have Realised what’s Happening. The Resolution and FPS Push is Stagnating Games, Everything is a Trade off. Resolution at FPS before pro gaming used to be Balanced with graphical substance, and Game content and features
30fps To 60fps is basically Linear, So takes Double the Performance, So conversely you have Half the Graphics and features
4K is 80% more demanding than 1080p, Think, That means GT7 could almost Double in Graphical Substance at 1080p 60 over what it is, and at 1080p 30 it could be 280% better Graphically
It’s not Gran Turismo 4 achieved something spectacular graphically, its just modern developers listen to the lowest common denominator of stupid kids and competitive pro gaming shills, So most Games Now are 4K 60 FPS on Decade old game engines and two decade old game mechanics CS - Fortnite
@@aaronsmith7143 Same here, I always had my ps2 hooked up with AV components cable to my rear projection TV and it blew my mind. That was way before the HD/flat screen era became mainstream.
GT4 was the best game ever
@@aaronsmith7143 it wasn't ever real 1080i, it was mostly only the menus that render in 1080i, the rest of the game was much closer to the standard 480i, you can look this up online, it's been discussed many times and interlaced video would look garbage on youtube
I love how the starting chime did not change through the years
For me, the tire sounds.
@@marcusjohnson7441 No the ones in GT6 are different
pretty sure GT5 too
Right
Graphics on GT4 were very good for it's time, however the sound is dreadful 😭😭
It was good, but not that amazing with Forza and Project Gotham Racing on the Xbox looking much better in terms of visuals. PGR even the first you could already even see the brake calipers move when braking.
But emulation is the way to go for GT4 nowadays for sure, it looks miles better than the original PS2
@@guily6669 not really if you’re comparing to playing the original Gran Turismo four on a standard definition TV versus playing Gran Turismo four with mods and enhancements on an HD or 4K TV today?!
Mods make basically make the game look on a 4K or HD TV as good as it did back then on a standard definition good flatscreen picture tube television!
That’s how I feel about it and I mean that’s the truth-
Both Gran Turismo three and Gran Turismo four looked incredible on the technology they were designed for-
When playing them on a much newer television, you have to add enhancements and increase the resolution and all that bullshit just to make it look incredible again
@@guily6669 also in terms of the track in the background and what not, Forza did not look as good overall is Gran Turismo4-
And Forza also gets some car models like the Acura/Honda NSX wrong.. they just can’t seem to design the polygon count for that back window right in the car just looks weird?!???
But again the graphics, Overall were better on PS2’s Gran Turismo4! Sure for the time having car models where you can see in the car was nice and all that shit.. but that didn’t make the game look better overall
@@guily6669 why Forza fanboys like you always comment on GT videos?
@Khlad Ali relax, he was just giving his opinion and even gave a bit of detail as why. He wasn't being troll and just bashing the game.
Not everyone that disagrees with you is a fan boy...
Man, I'm still amazed on how Polyphony managed to make such great 3D models and textures that looks great even 20 years later.
Xbox had better on forza and Project Gotham Racing... Also the models look miles better here because it's emulated and gets so much better than the original PS2 visuals
They didn't, this is an enhanced emulator version. Read description.
@@deadlyapollo Emulation doesn't change the models or textures. The main difference is just a higher resolution
This ^
@@guily6669 i have both ps2 and og xbox - Project Gotham Racing 2 while having much nicer looking tracks (they look awesome, early xbox 360 quality), had really uneven and often poorly made car models. Some looked decent, but there were many that had clear issues with lower quality lights, or bad proportions (kinda like cars in NFS Hot Pursuit 2 on ps2). Also all car paints looked very fake, very matte. Forza Motorsport had much better looking cars than PGR2, but i wouldn't say they were better than gt models - whey were more on less on par - gaining at some elements and loosing at others. Enthusia Professiona Racing on ps2 was a true hidden gem of the generation, and although also uneven, had really good looking car models. In the end i think GT3 and GT4 cars holds up best, because they work flawlessly with the lighting system GT3 and GT4 had. They are good enough to not look all that bad in GT5 and 6 (although i still believe polyphony made mistake adding last gen models no next gem games, even if they weren't all that bad for the most part).
GT4 in replays had some kind of jerks and imperfections in camera panning and this is what made them more lifelike, like a human with TV broadcast camera trying to keep up with cars, not like some robot. In GT7 every camera pan is pixel perfect, it would be cool if they introduce those imperfections in camera panning back to GT7, IMO it would add to the realism of replays :)
You fraud
@@ste9856 wut?
Shut up
100% agree. Even GT6 had better replays than GTSPORT and GT7.
Bro a fucking human with tv broadcast wouldnt be able to keep up with a car going at 300mph
I MUCH prefer the camera movement in GT4, it looks and feels much more lively.
It's a moded chase camera which replicates the movements in GT3. In standard GT4, it is glued to the car.
Replay camera or driving?
@@isaacsrandomvideos667 driving
Actually the normal cam for GT4 is the as 5-7. 3 was moving more than 4.
6:00 That was so random coming from the A.I. lmao
GT4 looks decent in 4K60, but the level of detail and lighting accuracy in GT7 looks even more amazing with them side by side like this. Everything just looks much more natural and lifelike, not stale like GT4. Not to mention the sound is absolutely incredible in GT7. Reverberating throughout the racetrack with other cars and also the fact that the sounds are directional, like all sounds are.
gt4 is from 2004 and launched on the ps2 but the game looks like it's from the ps3 game
@@alexjackyperson101to be fair, it wasn't far from the PS3 launch, but still, it's for a PS2, which is crazy detailed for it.
GT4 was such a good game. I remember grabbing the wrx hatch from the used car shop and getting it to run a 8.1ish second 1000 meter. Was basically untouchable
I still remember this car sounding really bizarre in GT4. Thank god PD have finally caught up in the sound department
6:00 Ah yes. GT2 memories.
😂
i was thinking the same thing
I remember that, in that turn i was failed so much times in GT2. Good memories :D
The license test with the Dodge Viper.
That corkscrew made me suffer so much when I was a beginner but eventually became one of my favorite parts of Laguna Seca to the point I used to challenge myself to see how fast I could clear that section with different cars.
I like how the brake lights for GT4 were just a png crudely slapped on top of another png
The Emotion engine was great made a lot of games played great and looked great if you were to squint your eyes the graphics both games look nearly identical as for the PS2 was 4 generations ago which is very impressive, but Sony should've made a Emotion Engine II for the PS3 and maybe it would turned out differently it could have been the best PlayStation console ever made if it did.
I mean emotion engine was just branding, but yeah, they sorta tried a similar radical architecture for the PS3 with the cell but it backfired
Me:
Emotions about completing every Licence Test (especially completing on Gold)
@@gabrielsingal209 as another GT player who acquired gold on every test in every game ever, I do feel these emotions on about six or seven tests in each game leading up to GT6, when they became so easy to gold, that it was like playing Forza..
Cell was literally continuation of ps2 architecture. And despite ignorant people criticizing it, it was a beast. Just look at all the gemes in ps3 era that did groundbraking stuff... Cell is more pwerful than the cpu ps4 came with which is why we havent seen games really progress much. ND said while doing The Last of remaster that Cell is actually more powerful than what they had to work with in ps4.
Dude, please, that's not how GT4 ran on the original hardware. This is running on an emulator, enhanced and upscaled as hell. If you put the original next to GT7, there's a gulf in quality.
When I first drove this car, I immediately fell in love with it. I even named it, The King of all race cars. I'm so glad they brought it back in Gran Turismo 7.
Theres The Black Version Too, As You Can Tell When You See Them Both, The Test Car Costs 1,200,000cr While The Spec II Costs 1,600,000cr
@@Alpha-0014, I know, and strangely, I called the black GT, The Queen of all race cars.
gt4 was mind blowing when it came out, literally. a lot of my friends died unfortunately because their mind just blew up when they played it
lol
At least they died doing what they loved.
Its insane how GT4 just looks like GT7... okay, there are details msising and reflections but besides that, it looks like GT7 on lowest graphic settings...
Really insane when keeping in mind it is 3 Generations older.
I'm shocked no one is actually talking about how horrible the sound is for the GT7 car. It's almost like its bugged/sound swapped. It sounds like a flat plane v6 or something. Not even remotely like a supercharged v8.
Yep. I couldn't wait to hear the angry hornet sound of the Porsche RSR and was quickly disappointed. Boooo!
Yeah it's literally the same sound as the 2018 GTE. Which is wrong, obviously. Hope they patch that.
Yeah, sounds like the Ecoboost V6 instead of the supercharged V8.
@@Roddy_Zeh I hope updates can change it to a V8 sound
that's because it has a v6 as a LM spec II race car....
Just mentioning that GT4 was running with an emulator which makes graphics better than real console. Some ppl are forgetting it before commenting here.
GT4 still looks good for it’s age! Loved playing it on my PS2 back in the day 😎
GT4 at 1080i on my CRT HD TV blew my mind in 2005 or so.
Man, people can say what they want about GT7's graphics, this comparison really shows how far games in general have come and I love to see it! Especially with the sound, what a stark difference, lol.
Nonetheless, GT4 really does hold a special place in my heart~
GT4 was impressive for its day, GT7 simply is not.
@@NeedMoarRage speak for yourself lol
@@NeedMoarRage I agree. There sure ain't eighteen years worth of difference!
They have not came far though. No way is that eighteen years of difference.....
Gt7 has the best graphics ever for a Racing Game
I like how you got the camera to rotate like the previous Gran Turismos. GT4 was amazing, but….the stiff 3rd person camera view forced me to play from the hood cam. And it was a trend that unfortunately continued. GT sport does have good camera rotation (if you changed it in the options). GT7 has the option as well but it’s still too stiff to the car.
Caramba... Os modelos dos carros do gt4 eram realmente muito bons pra época , obviamente que o jogo não rodava nessa resolução ,mais mesmo assim depois de tantos anos consegue surpreender.
GT7 doesn't look as much better as you would expect. I remember playing GT4 when it came out. It had a pseudo 1080i mode that looked amazing. It looked so good that it held up to 360 and PS3 games. It's amazing how far they pushed the PS2 with GT4.
I've prefer GT4 sound detail. If you listen it, it has a bit whining sound like supercharger. Since the original Ford GT 2005 has supercharged V8 (idk if the concept also has supercharger, since GT LM Spec II based on the concept GT)
I'd guess not, a supercharger wouldn't be extremely useful on a race car like that.
I'd guess not, a supercharger wouldn't be extremely useful on a race car like that.
Played GT4 on max volume the other day, neighbors thought I was vacuuming my house
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I think PS2 Version is very Masterpiece. Especially if you play it through the PCSX2 Emulator, the Graphics can also be adjusted according to our wishes
That is Why I Love Gran Turismo 4 because this Game is One of my Favorite Racing Game, also one of the Best Racing Game in the World. I still Playing with Game, even though I'm Play with PCSX2 for Now 2022 👏👏👏
the real vacuum simulator vs the real price inflation simulator
Oh my word. I loved playing GT4. I remember being so exited when I finally got that Ford GT in the vid finally.
GT4 looks great for its age, but what i'm most impressed by, is how accurate the track model is. Obviously the kerbs and run offs have changed over the years, but disregarding that it's extremely accurate. GT4 was way ahead of its time
Man I love the interior view of GT7, I really appreciate how the head bobs around unlike in previous games. If only it didn't have the DRM, then I would get it on my PS4. Mainly because I don't want to go online and update my firmware anymore
Have you a cfw installed?
its worth it but sounds like you doing illegal stuff so your loss.
Remember my childhood!! Had GT4 it was a best of series.
Na real, o gran turismo 4 ainda continua insuperável, era mais bonito graficamente, era a tela mais limpa sem tantas informações, adorava o piloto automático, manoqueria o GT 7 com essa função de novo
Mas tem o piloto automático...
I play GT4 on an original console, and it looks just as good on an emulator. Depends on the TV you are playing.
3d models cant look better, the textures can only have anisotropic filtering set to x16 to make the quality of the textures a bit sharper and thats it.
Either people have very bad memory or never played GT4 on the OG console in the first place.
That isn’t exactly true. Even with a retrotink, PS2 will never look as good as Emulation upscaling. Coming from someone who’s had a PS2 since 2002 and emulated since 2020. PS2 is very pixelated and hard to see detail compared to a progressive scan upscale
@@RowdyGT yes but the difference isnt so noticable if ur using a CRT screen with a small resolution. Atleast i dont notice it.
But i don't suffer much for that kind of thing, im a guy that loves to play it how it was originally intended.
You could attach reshade on the emulator and add the levels + sharpen filters, it would improve the way the texture looks on the cars, including its decals.
Set reshade to opengl.
Or get the vulkan build of pcxs2 and enable vulkan on reshade menu
@@altaafsheik5725 Thats a great tip, didn't know that :) Thanks Altaaf
@@bobolins I was using this on rpcs3 with reshade shaders games look beautiful
Since gt7 added all these customizations, we should be able to cruise or race and have the opportunity to look around our car while driving 3rd person and enjoy our car build. I don't know why they never add this
its to simulate blind spots, you cant see the sides of your car when your sitting in it.
@@ConnorH2111 all I'm saying is, I myself and I know many others would like to see around our cars, like need for speed for instance, it would make the game that much better. I know this game isn't need for speed but hey, why add these cosmetic customizations and not be able to see them?
@@kamikaze6305 for other people to see them ofcourse, and you can look at your car plenty in the menus and scapes.
* Laughing in Forza horizon *
I am a GTfan too btw gt7 is awesome this is just for the laughs and to contribute with your comment just WHY do I have to turn on my Xbox when I just want to cruise with a nice build... I've been dreaming of doing this since GT5 and that's why I bought an Xbox to begin with ... Im grinding the shit out on gt to modify and make my cars feel like they're mine but damn would love to cruise
@@ConnorH2111 you also can't see the rear of the car if you're sitting in it, yet its a thing.
I was wondering why GT4 looked so much better than I remembered and wow. It's amazing what upscaling the resolution could do.
in pscx2 theres even 5k resolution! if you have a good pc and good graphic cards settings you can enjoy it a lot!
Man, looking at my phone from a distance, they both look similar. I don't know if that's a knock on GT7 or GT4 is that great.
For some reason GT7 has too much bloom off sun reflections.
U r an camera dude
isn't the bloom just like that irl
Bro really used the word bloom which is used in games like COD to describe “the real driving simulator” 💀
@Michael Hamilton it's a pretty common word in photography; it's not exclusive to CoD...
Probably used it wrong oh well
@@michaelhamilton4133 I don't understand.
*🇧🇷❤️o Gran Turismo 4 não faz feio, eu jogava ele em 2010 e batia de frente com qualquer jogo da época, único defeito era o som e a falta de noite/dia, agora nunca houve um simulador mais completo que ele. Só faltou a categoria F1 👏👏👏👏*
Tinha F1 nele, vc ganhava quando completava as 24 horas de nurburgring
Also The Theres The Formula Tournament In The Extreme Events. Completing GT4 100% Grants You The Black Formula GT
Man there's something about the engine noise of the the GT in GT4 that makes it so cool. Interesting they tried a diff engine noise on GT7, I thought they were going to use the same engine noise as the GT test car. But sound pretty cool too.
The original LM Spec II was using a V6, as is apparent in GT7. They just did a very bad V6 engine noise in GT4.
Both games are epic, love that some of the sounds like the start sound are the same.
Gran turismo 4 is just a legendary game, even in ps2 resolution is the best racing game ever created, 700+ cars, 100+ tracks, a lot of upgrades for your car, licenses, but gran turismo 7 is really good compared to gran turismo sport
I laugh how everything in GT4 sounded like a Vacuum
The chase cam as it should have been in GT4... 20 years later.
Have to admit gt4 is still very much a playable game considering it’s the console generations behind. I know it’s not actually the ps2 version but we’re still talking about a game that was produced nearly two decades ago.
Man, I remember back in the day, 1080i on a PS2, with this graphics at rock solid 60fps??!(talking about ps2 original, obviously, not emu), what amazed me were the rally stages, they were absolutely gorgeous: chamonix, citta di aria and rocky mountains. I put countless hours on this one and 1&2 on the PS1 also (I fucking loved the soundtrack of the 1st gran turismo and his techno oriented presentation, starting from 2 and afterwards, the music and the menus were made "too snobby" for my taste.
I think that it's very telling that the first thing I noticed was the sound design. GT7 is noticiably superior in that regard. But as far as graphics go, GT4 is absolutely impressive given its age.
it looks like the gt4 lap is like 7 seconds faster lol
it’s the tire simulation in 4, they were pretty extreme lol
Awesom driving! Gran Turismo 4 still looks fantastic!!
you can really feel the diff of the physics engine at the first turn alone
How cool does the GT4 look after so many years!For its time it was a stunning game!
I’m sorry but GT4 can’t be topped. The amount/ the difference variety of cars where insane!! I’m glad it will have a ps2 and GT4. That being said I believe that GT7 got overhyped!! And there are a lot more of the generic/boring cars
Crazy how GT4 shifts sound more realistic than 7, they should pour the same effort of visuals into the sounds. I love these games and played them all since the 1st came out!
Insane how gt4 was so ahead of its time
I really miss the B-Spec mode. It would be so cool to train a driver and he is a bit of an RPG character with experience points and specialties
Imagine B-Spec returning with GT Sophy, that will surely justify using Sophy as your B-Spec driver, training through machine learning as you give it orders.
Gt4 is such a better "game" than gt7. Its wild that the graphics are only marginally better
I really miss this Laguna Seca map in GT2..good old memories
I like gt4 cuz of ogness and gt7 cuz of the sick graphics. Also its interesting how that “START” chime hasent changed at all.
GTA4 & Tourist Trophy were a whole generation ahead of their time...maybe two...and only held back by the power of the consoles.
I'd love to see them go back to those as a base and build from there. GT7 looks awesome though and is the one game that makes me want a PS5.
The way driver is changing gears in gt7 is like a grandma going for a grocery store. @5:50
Its honestly crazy to think that GT4 was 3 generations behind GT7, but if they released the game today with these enhancements it honestly makes it look like just around 2 or 3 years behind. I had GT4 when I had a PS2 and my puny, little kid brain was blown away by the graphics at the time. Gran Turismo is honestly still on top there as one of my favorite racing games. (My favorite racing games is DriveClub and Racedriver Grid : )
gt4 is like 18 years now but it looks like it out during 2010+
I don't know but the game looks super real while cam position in cockpit but when the guy is shifting the car it looks like his too relaxed 😂 I think they need to fix this make it a little more aggressive look for shifting
It was, and also, It is my days.
(First played with Orginal PS2 Slim)
(Aaaaand, PS4 Slim)
GT4 is still superior because more than half the game is not locked behind their servers being online.
Love how cars use to move on curves on GT1 up to GT4. After GT5 the rear of the cars are almost a freezed imagem while the whole environment moves around you
gt4 actually, in this video he has a gt3 camera mod for gt4 which makes it less stiff
Back in the day, Gran Turismo was the Benchmark for what Playstation consoles were capable of doing in graphics.
GT7 obviously looks miles better since it's on PS4/5, but I didn't realize how bad the audio was in those old GT games.
A few things they should change for the car is the headlights to be like the Concept Car lights and the engine it sounds like the 2018 GT
My favorite race car on my favorite race track
Nice one Rowdy 👌
Maybe Spec II do her best at this point but The Ford GT LM SPEC TEST CAR Black Edition was such a Monster
I remember the cars in the lineup so well... Its from the driving mission 12
The only car that's here from mission 12 is the Viper...
In GT4 the car be like the 2002 concept. In GT7 the car be like the production car
That's one of the best looking gt4 vids I've seen . Thanx for settings
my first gran turismo game. And also my favorite and only one which I completed 100% Baack then I was shocked how good it looked, the amount of cars and tracks they could deliver to ps2
In GT7, the animation of the gearbox in the Ford GT is very slow, it looks funny.
All of those gt cars in gt4 they missing a lot of them on gt7 like for example 1. The panoz Esperanta gt1
2. lister storm
3. Toyota t one much more cars
I think the Vantage is missing too, unless I missed it..
The brake lights in GT4 are distracting. It's so obvious it isn't the same brake light but illuminated, rather a completely different image.
you can see the difference clearly, but gt4 was years ahead of its time, I can't believe it came out in 2004
The big difference is that you'll still be able to play GT4 in the future, which you won't with the always-online GT7 once the servers are taken down when the day comes.
GT4 was the only game I had bought when I had the Playstation 2 I spent hours playing xd
Thx for making this video it show u how its GT clearly developed and good comparison
Q: Did you use a steering wheel in both games?
Ah yes, the Gran Turismo's main antagonist.
watching GT4 in 4k just proves how little things have really evolved graphically. Its pretty shocking. I mean yer sure all the little details are much more refined but there definitely wasn't that 'wow' factor between the 2 and I could instantly tell that GT7 wasn't even close to looking legitimately real. So despite the improvements, we're clearly still some way off photorealism. the difference was definitely more noticeable on the replays thanks to the ray tracing on GT7, and obviously the soundtracks of the cars was much better on GT7. But overall GT4 still looks awesome in 4k by todays standards.
that's because their is not a lot to see but compare that with other racing games or even circuit like trial mountain and you will see how much better games look today, forza horizone 5 makes it even more clear.
well you're blind, gt7 absolutely blows away gt4,
@@truckercowboyed2638 ok cowboy.
Games have come so far since the 6th generation. The PS2 probably couldn't render a single car from GT7 because the poly count is far too high. As much as I love the way 6th gen visuals the don't hold a candle to modern stuff. You can also see how far it has come. The trees in GT4 are just two planes with a tree texture on them. The crowds are not only far lower in density but are no where near the detail level of GT7. The lighting looks good because it was mostly pre baked into the scene meaning it was already pre calculated and baked into the textures themselves. Any real time shadows were just on the car and those aren't technically shadow maps like what are used today. Games from then are so far behind what can be done today
Thanks for doing this. Today if you offered the GT4 experience for $99 (including hardware) versus GT7 for $599 (including hardware) a bunch of consumers would take the $99 option. GT7 does not feel like ~18 years worth of improvements/innovation.
Plus GT7 is filled with microtransactions
Looks great visually, but I noticed that the AI still hasn't mastered late breaking. Humans have an inherent instinct the machines will never comprehend.
People keep talking about the sound, I don't mind... I think it's good enough. Because I never know how a car would sound like when I keep following it from behind at a perfect range...
More than 20 years in the business and they still can't figure out what a V8 sounds like. Sure looks gorgeous though.
Also will polyphony ever recognize that not every single manual is a sequential? You can literally see him shifting by hand.
Gran Turismo seven kicks it off and the graphical department it was awesome when Gran Turismo four put that PS2 to its limits but now Gran Turismo seven is pushing a PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 4 pro to its limits
the chase cam from GT4 is less rigid than GT7, it is similar to Gt sport and better. It's inexplicable why Polyphony took the camera options from GT sport without taking over the same amplitude of the settings, forbidding us to make a really nice third camera .
GT4 was way ahead of its time
Tuve el gt 4 que gran juego lpm. Hasta aprendi conducir en la vida real y te da esa experiencia
I have to say GT4 looks far better than GT7, yes GT7 has lens flare and better reflections but i have come to race not look at the secery.
Yes i know this is running on PCSX2 and yes i know he's running at 4K (i myself run the games at 8K internal resolution which is then downscaled to 1080p) which is much better then the PS2's default 480p
One thing it's right, they know how to do replays
Obviously the graphics are better on the PS5 but honestly the biggest difference I noticed was the V8 sounds like a V8 in GT7. I miss GT4, I think I'm gonna start playing it again soon. Racing slicks for all cars in all races!
yes, in gt4 the sound is like a 6 cylinders
0:26 I have to check if my vacuum cleaner is off.
GT4's sound effects haven't aged that well XD
It always surprises me how 3d gt3 and gt4’s car models are,