Thoughts that Create Anxiety and Depression | Eckhart Tolle on The Larry King Show
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2022
- Eckhart discusses with Larry King how "The Power of Now" can help overcome anxiety and depression by making the reader aware of their thought patterns and how they condition their emotions.
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I've never in my life heard Echkart speak this fast
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I was thinking the same thing!
I had a laundry list of mental diagnoses and all are gone now after almost two years of following Eckharts teachings. Biggest being the ongoing anxiety attack which required the heaviest meds. I have not had any meds for over a year now. My psychologist who watched me go through this life change responded with, "I can retire in peace with you". ie I graduated. Thank you Eckhart for sharing your ideas. Your viewpoints really saved my life. My old way of living nearly killed me many times over the last 40 years. I am finally awakening to life and living in reality. I am so grateful to finally have peace and joy in my life every single day, even the more challenging ones.
same, these ideas that Tolle patiently comes back to, the words used to not absorb, they bounced off surface mind, then after being at a kind of crossroads, by reading listening to CDs of him 10 yrs ago, i started trusting him, letting the ideas sink in & also Byron Katie, when im in the midst of noise, ( voice in head,or world around me) it doesn't mean that stillness does not exist, it can't not not exist.
also, they both, Tolle & Katie, teach, & u can sense in them, a spaciousness, when i open to spaciousness, conflicting ideas are like ants on a leaf, with out spaciousness, everything is like train track loud, intrusive, insistent, & ever urgent....our natural at ease state is spaciousness 🌱🐾👣🌿🕊️
This is such a testimony you shared. I’m so happy for you. I am in the process of working with my doctor to get off all anxiety/depression/sleep medications and reading your post gave me a lot of hope. Thank you so much.
@@rachelnicole4043 don't push yourself to hard but it is possible. You got this and thank you for the kind words
@@mindsigh4 Really good comment, Carl. I have also benefited greatly from the books and videos of Michael Singer. If you like Eckhart and B Katie, I think you would get a lot out of his works; I.e. The Untnethered Soul and the Surrender Experiment. All the best, Carl! ☀️🌿
You are a wonderful soul. I hope some day I can say the same for my Depression and Anxiety, both byproducts of my ADHD. Your story is inspiring
I WILL NEVER BE THANKFUL ENOUGH FOR HAVING ECKHART TOLLE WITH US IN THIS WORLD. HE IS A MASTER PIECE IT SELF. IN MY OPINION UR THE LIGHT FOR THE UPCOMING GENERATION IN THIS NEW ERA. THANK YOU ECKHART.
If humanity survives eckhart will be remembered for ever
- I just want to let anyone who’s reading this, and going through a tough time know that it’s going to be okay. You’ll get through it! ✨
Tolle showed it very clear, then there is some practice. . . Mooij tells also it get worse in the beginning but then suddenly jou start realise it. and then changes start to arise. . . just like that. suddenly. they arise.
Grow through it 😏
Thanks random internet troll!
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That comment and the many similar derivatives of it are said so often it looses the power of genuineness that it otherwise has/could have.
Presence is like having all your senses focused to everything around you, but there is no thought behind it. The more still and present you are, the brighter the colours of the flowers and the more you hear the birdsong. This man is gradually delivering me from over 40 years of struggle and resistance - against myself! The lessons are hard but I'm grateful for them.
Being present takes practice. However when you are in the present there's no problem or situation just this right now.
This really kicks in when you’re hungry or sleepy. So stay hydrated, get enough to eat (don’t overeat) and rest.
So true, excellent advice thank you.
It really is the truth
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Being addicted to carbs & sugars makes it harder to be in hungry state I live low sugar& carbs for 4+ years now eating less times a day and I was never this calm compared to when I was sugar carbs addicted.
What kicks in? Can you please elaborate?
A ECKHART A DAY KEEPS THE STRESS AWAY 📖 просветляйтесь каждый день 👍🤗
Echart Tolle is the only enlightened human being in the world today. Lets spread him to everyone we know.
I found Eckhart in 2016. I spent two years listening to him religiously and read every book over and over. His teachings completely transformed my life. Though I rarely listen to him anymore, it’s nice to occasionally hear his voice and little messages like this. I will forever be grateful to him and the impact he had on my life.
The books " still Speakes and the power of now" changed me totally, I have succeeded to overcome my sorrows, Griefs, dangerous emotions in the memories of someone.
Thoughts that are out of alignment with our Higher Self will always cause a negative emotion, which is your guidance system telling you that the thought is out of alignment with Creation and what will benefit you and others, to mention that the thought will create a negative experience that is not enjoyable. This is why in my experience it is important to only give energy and focus to the thoughts that resonate with heart and soul at a deep level. Great video Eckhart! Thanks for being one of the people that inspires me to post videos every single day. Much Love 🙏
Although all thoughts are a part of creation.
Eckhart looks very health
Theres a glow in him
Dear person reading this, I hope today you’ll be able to show the love you have inside to people around you. Have a beautiful day ❤
Something we have to practice over and over. It sure helps to be reminded, too. 😊
And over and over.
practice makes perfect
@@deaththink I sure hope so.😊✌️
You ultimately realize that you are the observer and the observed
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Came here this morning because I was depressed, and starting to feel panicky about it. So then I started just watching my spoon scooping up the fruit and cream in my bowl, and lightness comes in. The thinking wants to return to "I'm depressed," but being very conscious of staying in the now quiets it down. I'm feeling calm now. I listen to Eckhart all the time - don't know where I'd be without him.
So quick and to the point, I love the simplicity and profundity of what he says here
Eckhart Tolle is a genius.
Eckart Tolle change and save my life. Thank you Eckhart
Conversations like this deserve a nobel price for inner peace .. ❤ short and healing.. what else you want?
You cannot control outside events, only your thoughts about these events. We might get a little frustrated with bad weather (rain, snow, etc.) at times but we don't really think, "why does this happen to me?", we just accept it. Applying this same reasoning to other outside events can make all the difference in your happiness and sense of peace.
Indeed.
Everything becomes still when I read your writings and when I listen to you. The purpose is getting fulfilled. Your work helps me in being present and to experience stillness.
Time is nothing
Gratitude is everything
Find your Light and let it shine
Thank you so much, Eckhart. Peace and love. 🙏
To have a fantastic collaboration with yourself:
1. Tell your mind what you want.
2. Link massive pleasure to going there and pain to not going there.
3. Change the pictures and the words. Using very detailed words.
4. Make the familiar unfamiliar, and the unfamiliar familiar.
5. Make Self Belief so normal to you, that everyone believes in you too.
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Your potential expands beyond what you can imagine...
Thy will be done this day!
Today is a day of completion, I give thanks for this perfect day,
Miracle shall follow
Miracle and Wonders shall never cease🕊
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you💌
Larry King was always hilarious. He asked such silly questions and was still the best interviewer ever.
What a legendary combination Mr. King and and Mr. Tolle. Fantastic
How many people feel like Tolle handled himself so well with Larry King (RIP)? And I LOVE that the book is the Power of NOW, and the show is called Larry King NOW!!! HAHA Do you love that or what??? ✌️. ~Evan
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@@soulstreams333 My old band in the early 2000's used to have a song called 333 You're Half the Devil You Used to Be
Great book, should reread again
I’d like to say something to people who are suffering from severe anxiety and depression (from my own experience). Even if your condition is mostly physiological (and the effect is psychological), how you think greatly influences your body chemistry. It can absolutely raise your physiology into a healing state. How far you go is up to you, but never think you are hopeless. One small tip I’d like to share is to embrace your situation (even if it’s very painful) no matter what you’re going through. This can have a dramatic impact, as your body begins to reinterpret your experiences and sees that your situation is not hopeless.
Tolle’s tip here about awareness noticing the mind creating a narrative is subtly profound and very helpful (even though he’s talking about those who only have everyday anxiety, which is very different from the more extreme versions). Noticing your mind creating these stories will help to influence your physiology and change your chemistry, so much so that it’s possible for those that are severely debilitated (even physiologically) can start walking back into healing.
I hear you, and I appreciate what you're saying but it's hard, esp. when you feel don't feel like you're in control. I'm just getting this out, no need to respond. Thank you.
@@lizzettorres1111 No problem. And I’m not saying everyone is the same, or my solutions are the same as yours, but I hear you and this is just my experience.
I was stuck trying to control the anxiety for decades. The reason I spent decades there was because I was trying to fix the anxiety and depression itself with strategies, but not even understanding why I was experiencing it in the first place. The only way out for me was to release control and embrace whatever happens. Controlling is fear. It’s like trying to look for a rock to cling on to when you’re adrift at sea. As long as I was trying to look for something to hang on to, I knew I would always be coping. That’s when I started letting go. Its the scariest thing. People have no idea how bad these experiences can get. But that’s where I learned the most about myself. Being willing to step into it instead of pulling away. That’s where understanding started coming to me and doors began to open.
@@NemeanLion- Thank you for your advise, I know how to let go and I'm working on that, I'm also aware of my thoughts and I've heard about stepping into it but I don't understand what that means, there's another exercise or practice (I can't think of the word) that's kind of like that I don't understand either. What do you mean by "stepping into it", if you don't mind.
@@lizzettorres1111 My interpretation of “stepping into it” is basically to stop running/controlling and face whatever you’re afraid of. It’s a matter of letting go of the security that you’ve been clinging on to. You may not even know what is causing the anxiety at this moment. Explore it. I didn’t know for 20 years. I just thought I was afflicted with “anxiety” and I needed to find a way to control its tricks. The problem is the condition worsened the more I kept coming up with solutions to control it, until my physical health completely broke down. I was actually being my told my problem in hidden messages for years, but was unable to see.
If I could suggest just one thing though, please remember this……you are the guru you’ve been searching for your whole life. Your journey is your own and is unique. All the answers you are looking for are within you and no one else can solve your riddle except for yourself. Every time your reach outside yourself for an answer, you create more separation and with separation comes fear. Go within.
Anyway, please take my advice with a grain of salt. Use it only if it resonates with you. I am no more of an expert than anyone else in this world. I just know how much pain is involved in these conditions and if I can shed even a little light to help someone, it makes me feel good.
@@NemeanLion- I get it, I was told I have General anxiety disorder. Thank you, really! I understand what you're saying. Take care ☮️💜
Mr Eckhart simplifies that complicate thoughtflow so well. Thank you for the video.
Allow your heart the space it needs to manifest your highest desires into existence. When you really just let things be, and detach from all outcomes, you give life the opportunity and space to work in your favour. When there is space you can manifest even more and finally receive what you have been waiting for. I set another intention for anyone who reads this, I promise what you desire is on its way. I am sending you love and strength. You are Appreciated & Loved You are Accepted and Supported. Trust in yourself and Trust in life.
~Much Love from a Law of Attraction UA-camr💜
God bless ♥️🧚🏻♀️💫
I don't know what manifestation has to do with being aware of our own thoughts that lead to anxiety and depression.
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@@lizzettorres1111 I think he may mean that if we are not constricted by Depression and or Anxiety we create space within ourselves, an openness to attract more desirable experiences and outcomes rather than the negative that our minds may be stuck on in a type of loop, a vicious circle, attracting more of the external that which we are experiencing/feeling internally.
@@aaronglide You could be right, I usually wouldn't have said anything but I've seen him post the exact comment under many other videos. Next time I'll just mind my business, that comment came from a place of distrust and that's never good.
RIP Larry King
Thank you Eckhart tolle
Easy to say and a lifetime to practice
A question that you need to ask yourself: who need to practice?
Who are you? You need to clarify this first
Thank you Eckhart !!!
very good breakdown
Depression is ALSO a result of a serotonin levels. Sometimes it has NOTHING to do with situational things.
I am currently recovering from a depression that was induced by a chemical change in my brain. I withdrew from an antidepressant that was prescribed to me NOT for depression but for pain relief. After weaning myself off I went into a full blown depression.
It was a blessing because now I fully understand depression is sometimes a physical disease. Even though I knew what was happening, I had no control over the thoughts that played out in my head, or my lack of energy, or my disinterest in life and people.
I can say that prayer did work, as did exercise.
Perhaps the point has been missed.. there may be a chemical imbalance but I can guarantee you you if you did a psychological study and set 5 depressed people in a row and switched a excruciating alarm on their attention would focus on the alarm and that is the Power of now.. for when they are focusing on the now everything before falls away it is simply a moment moment followed by another moment and to stay in check with that moment can help somebody who is mentally struggling..
@@soniaedwards1083 yes while the symptoms from physical illnesses can be assuaged by staying present, my point is that some depressions( just like schizophrenia and bipolar) are caused by a chemical or hormonal imbalance. Just as we wouldn't tell someone to stay present if they were having a hear attack we should be careful how we address mental health.
AND yes I realize that Eckhart ( who happens to be MY spiritual master) is talking to people whose depression is brought on my situational occurrences.
I am addressing this because God forbid there are people out there who are sick with depression brought on by brain illnesses and they are feeling all they have to do is to stay present.
@@susanmadison6466 I wouldn't know about the different kinds of depressions that people have or are
diagnosed with or how they come to diagnose them. For me thinking of the moment when I need to is all I need. I'm sure my comment hasn't bought anybody any harm.
Thank you❤❤
I am focused and grounded, and my goals are clear.
Excellent. 👌🏼🙌🏼👐🏼🙏🏽😊🤗
Thank you.
I think Eckhart Tolle you are so rich (with money) now and would be nice that you give all your knowledge free to the world (free ebooks, free videos etc). Greetings from Germany. (ps: I bought all your books many years ago and they are a great help getting more free)
thank you
Thank you eckhart for your great insight
🌈Thank you very much 🙏❤️🧚🏾
Peace, love, light, harmony to all.❤️❤️🕊🌸🙏🌏🌹🌼🤗
Rip Larry King
Thanks🙏 Eckhart
Thank you ❤️
Thank you thank you so much
Muchísimas gracias!!!!
Everyday there is new content !!
Wonderful
Aha, intresting. So the moment if i think this is good or bad, i lie, or deny what really is happening.
So the moment i say "i dont know why i feel bad" i've already created the lie over it... already created a NEW dialog from behind the backdoor. Im starting to see it more and more the more i suffer again the same mistakes.
So the dialog is very tricky if it comes from the backdoor.
It creates lies or storys as you call it so easily and you get drawn in even before you notice it.
I love the advice you gave that how would i experience this moment without thoughts.
And also to simply not deny whatever you are feeling, just to let it be.
It makes clairity and it kills the depression, honestly.
The moment i dont lay thoughts over it, im perfectly fine.
This is a good or bad moment or i shouldn't experience this feelings right now.. omg i got those a lot recently..
Its very enlightening. To see to realize that whats really going on...
Of corse i dont claim to be enlightened now 😅
شكرا اكهارت ❤
Wow, thank you that much 🍀🌈🌺✨
This is really interesting. I realised a similar video on my channel about the same topic. We are on the same page even though you said a couple of things more, but the concept is similar. Thanks for sharing this!
Is it better to be blissfully unconscious of our thoughts and be run by our minds autopilot ideas, opinions and beliefs, reacting to them totally emotionally day after day as many people do, or is it better to be aware of our minds every thought, opinion and belief so as to be able to think, feel and act totally consciously for ourselves? Mental health struggles usually lead us into becoming much more aware of our minds thoughts and to us eventually learning how to separate ourselves from our minds which of course helps us recover, but it also leaves us with constant awareness of our minds each and every thoughts.
Freedom from the minds autopilot conditioning is a truly wonderful thing that I am very grateful for but sometimes there is a strange nostalgia for the simplicity of the autopilot life before I became unwell. Yet another reminder that like everyone else I'm very much a, work in progress 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
SELF TALK
It's true and even if you know it's so hard to stop. I'm aware of every thought I have and I still can't stop them, I try changing them from guilt to gratitude but the little f*ckerz creep in from my subconscious as soon as I'm not paying attn. I probably sound crazy, but I'm just venting.
No, you don't sound crazy. It's a habit that is very hard to break. So yes, practice over and over, like you said.✌️😉
@@StephanieJeanne Thank you, I appreciate that. 🙂
You don't have to stop your thoughts. It's the job of your mind to create them, please be kind, they are not your enemies. But you don't have to believe every thought, that's in fact challenging... Perhaps sometimes it might work for you to be just aware of them and notice that you are far more than your thoughts.
@@mabelle39It's the negative repetitive thoughts thoughts that we're all conditioned to believe if we're not in a place where we think we're "suppose" to be, but I am aware of them and I'm working in it. Thank you for your support, I appreciate it. 💜
@@lizzettorres1111 you don't sound crazy at all you sound perfectly normal to me. We suffer because we think our minds should be different to how they are, but we can not possibly know what is normal because we can not experience any one but our own minds and thoughts so we have nothing to really compare our minds behaviour too. Your life has been different to mine and you will obviously have different memories and had different experiences to me, so naturally the contents of your thoughts will be different to mine but if we could swap minds for an hour I think we'd both agree that both our minds work spookily similarly ways. Before we realised we sometimes struggle,, did we always simply struggle unconsciously? Being aware of our thoughts sometimes feels like a negative but actually it gives us the opportunity to choose our reactions rather unconsciously be controlled by them 🙏🙏🙏
Excellence ~
Try to remember, when you are steaming because you are stuck in traffic congestion, that YOU are part of the congestion to the drivers behind you!
This made me laugh, because I literally never thought of that!
Albert Ellis was teaching this in the 1960s. Irrational thinking disturbs us. Kindly, C.
Amen 🙏
Antidepressants have the power that makes the voice go away..
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Whatever works best for each person is right for them, there are many paths to the top of the mountain as long as we all reach the summit, does it really matter which path we take? . It's only people's egos that insist, their way is THE WAY.
Person A, "I suffered fo 80 years and struggled badly throughout those years but I was determined to not use pills and to follow a spiritual path, and now today on my 100th birthday I've finally cracked, and I'm now free to enjoy the rest of my life "
Person B. I struggled for 1 year and then my doctor gave me some medication that worked wonders for me and the last 79 years have been fantastic, today is my 100th birthday too and I'm celebrating by going on romantic weekend with my partner and we are definitely taking the do not disturb sign with us 👍👍👍
@@johngreen4683 right but person A has suffered a lot and B seems to have cured early and enjoyed more years than B.
Lol. No. There's no cure. I'm on antidepressants. They take the edge off to some degree. I no longer get as hysterically upset or irrational as I once did. But I still have day to day issues I deal with. Medication is NOT a "cure". Unless you are struggling with psychosis ie bipolar/schizophrenia...don't get your hopes up
@@Nickshreds890 as far as side effects, the struggle is real. My doctor forgot to refill my antidepressants for a week. Within two days, severe depression hit me like a sack of bricks in the face. Not to mention the physical withdrawal ie the dreaded "brain zaps." Anyone who has ever quit taken an SSRI suddenly knows exactly what I'm talking about. (On the internet they're described as "brain zaps", I would say it's more like an intense head rush every 15 seconds).
This is a physical world therefore a practical world. The Now requires your attendance, your full attention. Ask yourself what is it I am attending to ?? What am I practicing right now ??
Realise there is no person ,that its only an conditioned idea and all will be well and at peace from unpleasant thoughts, the mind will be silent apart from the times when you need it to complete a task.
You are not the mind , its a just a bundle of thoughts, you are Awareness, the knower behind the knowing process.
"The Real never dies, the unreal never lived". Nisargadatta Maharaj.
Dear sir I have completed your book" stillness Speakes" and also near to complete the book" the power of now" sir I want to now from where you have got the resources of these books. How you realised about this reality? Have you read some books before writing these books? Please guide I also want to write such type of books.
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Is there any one who can help me with the awakening process I’ve accounted allot of complications and challenges due to lack of information. And no one knows about awakenings we’re I am from it’s been a scary ride I do need help
What's with the high dinner table? they look so uncomfortable 🤣
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i wonder why the shrinking of the ego mostly feels unpleasant?
because it hasn't really shrunk ,ego is an idea ,it doesn't want to die, its ironic it never really existed.
People, you must realise that physical symptoms also create depression, spinning thought etc
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PLANT YOUR MUSTARD SEED OF FAITH IN YOUR MIND'S EYE OF ZION IN YOUR BEING AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE LIKE CHRIST AND WALK IN TRUTH AND BE NOT AS THE HEATHEN BUT BE AS THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND MAY PEACE BE WITH YOU ALWAYS AND FOREVER ♾️💜🙏💜♾️.
BEING GOD'S ETERNAL LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL ISN'T IT LONG LIVE THE KING THE CHRIST IS BORN IN US ALL ALL THE GLORY GOES TO GOD AS WE WALK THESE PATHS THAT ARE OUR TRUTH MUCH LOVE AND MANY BLESSINGS TO YOU ALL💜👑🙏👑💜
GOD'S LAW LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOU ARE LOVE YOURSELF AS GOD LOVES YOU LOVE THY NEIGHBOR THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU AS THEY WERE YOU REMEMBER NOT TO HARM THYSELF OR OTHERS IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM MENTALLY PHYSICALLY OR SPIRITUALLY DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WANT DONE TO YOU JUDGE NOT YET YOU BE JUDGED AND LEFT WANTING FORGIVENESS THE LAMB OF THE WORLD CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE OF ALL IN GOD FOR THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB TORE THE VEIL AND THE WHOLE OF HUMANITY WAS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR IN THE BLOOD OF THE CHRIST AND FOR THIS WE GIVE THANKS AND ETERNAL GRATITUDE BECAUSE ALL GLORY GOES TO GOD FATHER OF ALL. AS I WALK MY PATH OF PEACE AND LOVE IN TRUTH I HOPE IT IS YOURS AS WELL.💜👑🙏👑💜
EVERYTHING WAS SET IN PLAY BY THE WEF AND BECAUSE IT'S THE ECOSYSTEM OF EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE CONTROLLING THEY'VE DISENFRANCHISED NOT ONLY THE CHILDREN OF GOD BUT YET ROBBED MOTHER EARTH OF THE COFFERS BEFORE HER VERY EYES AND SO SHE PLEADS WITH GOD FOR GOD'S WILL BE DONE AS IN HEAVEN SO SHALL IT BE ON EARTH BUT I DIGRESS THESE PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO THROUGHOUT HISTORY ARE OF THE SAME ILK THAT KILLED JESUS AND LABELED HIS FOLLOWERS CHRISTIANS AS IN CHRIST IN AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND LABELED EVERYTHING FROM THEIR TEACHINGS A VERSION OF CHRISTIANITY SO THEY CAN KEEP AN EYE ON IT AND NOW IT HAS COME FULL CIRCLE AND THEY ARE WIGGLING LIKE SNAKES IN THE GRASS AS WE ARE PATIENT WE LET GOD WORK THROUGH US FOR WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF OUR FATHER GOD. THAT'S WHY WE HOLD OUR PEACE WITH LOVE AND AFFECTION FOR IT IS THE GLORY AND ETERNAL JUDGMENT OF GOD IN US AS WE FOLLOW CHRIST TO THE GLORY OF GOD.💜🙏💜...
“By being dead”
All people pls listen aachrya parshnat he is Dimond
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Ask yourself: to whom is the world happening? Finding out the answer "to itself" means the person is out of the picture. No person, no problems.
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Isn't he speeded up?
The video is in 1.25x.echart does not talk this fast 😀
If you are reading this I want you to know that you are reading this 😁
And it's not some cheesy ploy to get you to look at my channel 😝 haahaa
try shrooms. they are amazing at eliminating anxiety
Yeah.
Deep.
Maybe it works when my nose itches,
or I am impatient standing in a long line.
But try to not listen to that narrative at a death of a relative.
Try to accept the situation without the narrative in a hospital bed without a limb.
Try not to listen to your narrative in a bomb shelter of a war zone.
Or just losing anything what is important for you.
Where you are insecure or weak.
And, maybe ... maybe you still will be able to do that.
(In very rare cases.)
But what you will get will not be a life after that.
I think you may be slightly misunderstanding the point Eckhart it making here. Indeed, the types of situations you listed often bring us into the present moment so intensely that there is no room for the egoic voice in our heads. The same thing happens with more positive events too, like traveling to another country or learning something new. The idea of “flow” points to the same thing if you’re familiar with that.