@@KiwiCarLifesubscribed and enjoying your channel content. I’m not ready for the switch to electrification yet, I think when electric cars come out with solid state batteries that will be a game changer and will date the current electric cars pretty quickly I believe. Pretty sure i read somewhere MG are looking at this for next year, with other manufacturers following on in later years. Electric cars seem to be a little like laptops, as soon as new tech comes out the current ones lose value more quickly than ICE cars.Also with electric cars not selling well currently and an oversupply you would be pretty disappointed as an owner if your model is discounted up to 25k which has been occurring as of late. Interesting times for sure.
Daily commute is 140km, with a Model X for six years now. Love the free fuel part. Works perfectly, even here in the coldest of Sweden. Don't miss the sound of turbos, exhaust and dump valves at all.
As a lifelong petrol head - owned V8s, flat 6s, straight 6’s and so on I took out a Model 3 back in 2019 so I could tell everyone how rubbish they were from a point of experience, not here say. But I was blown away, and within 6 months we had our first electric car…and haven’t looked back since. (Now running cars no 4 and 5, both Teslas). I am sure they aren’t right for everyone BUT they really are a case of “don’t knock it till you try it”. Thanks for your very fair and balanced review, Personally I would t hesitate to buy a 3 Performance like you tested with 130,000 km on the clock. But there is no way I’d buy a petrol engined car with similar performance with 130,000 km on it, I’d be too worried about any abuse it might have had from the previous owner(s) etc…
I met a guy once who was part of the "don't knock it until you try it", brigade. I said, "Put your cock in a bacon slicer and hit the green button", he's half the man he formerly was. Some things just require a bit of thought before trying.
Funny how tesla owners never admitted this when it was out and everyone said how bad it was. Yall would justify everything. Now all the sudden it was bad and the new one is so much better. Teslas suspension is trash, driving dynamics are horrid, no HUD or even guage cluster screen, no scroll wheel for the screen, glass roof u can't close or darken in anyway.. etc etc... so much stuff other cars offer.
@@G82Watts As a current owner of a Porsche Cayenne, 66 Mustang GT, 68 Dodge Charger, Tesla M3, and more than a few motorcycles, I know a thing about cars & bikes. I didn't get an early Tesla because they kind of sucked. After about 2020, they got better. Now, the current crop are great vehicles. The 2024 Model 3 is probably the best car made today including the suspension. I drove my Porsche just about every day until the 2024 M3 came out. Now the Porsche will be sold . And you're wrong about one thing. In the Tesla groups pre-2019 or so, everyone complained. Oh, and the Porsche's 0 to 60 takes 5.4 seconds. The Tesla performance does it in 2.9. End of story. Oh, and neither the Charger or the Mustang will ever be sold
Thanks for being honest. No one has to switch to EV if they don't want to. I am a petrolhead. I switched to a Model 3 Long Range AWD a few years back from a long line of pocket rockets. Great decision on my part. Loving every minute of it.
There is no going back. My last sedan had a twin-turbo V6 rated for 400hp. My base Model 3, is about as quick but feels so much better underfoot. The reason is throttle response and not having to wait for a downshift and for the turbos to spool up. That’s a game-changer in real-world conditions such as when I want tp jump into a much faster lane or clear an intersection as quickly as possible. As for the missing switches, I don’t miss them at all. Regular cars now seem too cluttered. All that detracts from the business of driving. In truth, the car is a mobile appliance more than a sporting vehicle but, in the role of being a driving appliance, it is exceptional. And that’s not to mention the other great feature: one-pedal driving. This is another revolution. In all but the most extreme situations, you need only one pedal which does a superb job of modulating velocitiy and acceleration/deceleration. It is a very easy car to drive smoothly.
My 3 1/2 year old M3 LR still gives me that new car vibe.....I feel special when I drive it and absolutely don't mind a bit when I see a duplicate of my vehicle. Now, the big one in my book...no maintenance. Not having a dealer in my life is reason enough alone to buy one. In addition, you get the fastest car in class and the safest car in the road. The biggest downer to me is loss of car value due in large part to FUD and a corruption of our news networks. In addition, in California, you also have to put up with added fees for owning an EV and very high insurance. I could never go back to ICE!
U feel special driving a tesla? 😂 whatever floats ur boat I guess. That's like saying that feel special driving a Honda accord. Any average joe in the world can buy a tesla. Heck u can get a used model s plaid for 55k right now
I part exchanged my BMW 435d convertible for a Black 2021 (refresh model) Model 3 Performance. I'm not sure i could ever go back to an ICE car now. Got the aero bodykit fitted and tinted the day i bought it. Definitely stands out from the many other Teslas on the roads in the UK.
I loved my m3 competition. But i was never really bothered about sound as im usually too focused on driving. The model 3 performance is so much better doesn't burn a hole in my pocket almost no maintenance £5 home refill. Win win.
@@KiwiCarLife "Tesla Model 3 Performance: all things considered, the best sedan in the world." "There’s a reason every ex-BMW M3 driver I know now drives a Tesla M3. It’s the best M3 there is." "Annoyingly the Tesla Model 3 Performance is Spectacular. Okay you heard it here first, the (BMW) M3 has no reason to exist because the (Tesla) M3P is better." Cammisa. ua-cam.com/video/5xj0R4MyDhE/v-deo.html You are way behind the times...
@@waynerussell6401u might wanna watch his latest podcast "I'm not a straight line speed kinda guy" " I wasn't aware of the thermal and brake issues of the new model 3 when I made that first review" .. so yea I think he's had a change of opinion. Also no one that can afford a brand new g8x bmw m3 or m4 comp is trading their car for a tesla model 3. BMW has more then doubled their sales for the new g8x m3 and m4. The only people going from a m3 to a tesla are the ones that bought a used old one in the 50k range and now bought the new tesla for 50k. Completely different price brackets. Also I'm curious how the model 3 makes the bmw m3 useless? Name one performance category the model 3 beats the bmw m3 xdrive in? Bmw is faster to the quarter mile, faster 60-130, and is faster around track. Oh and doesn't overheat. While having a luxury interior and not a basic traffic exterior that's bland asf.
@@G82Watts "all things considered, the best sedan in the world." You want to compare an every day sports sedan with a niche, very low volume, high maintenance, very expensive racing car that is not EU CO2 compliant!? Tesla has not even released a track pack for it yet. The best batteries in the world for heat release are still in ramp and not used for the standard road car. They are used in the Cybertruck that easily beats your BMW 0-60mph, fully loaded! The categories it beats BMW in include: value for money, efficiency, resale value, cost to own ( Consumer Reports), beats M3 on lap (Top Gear), quarter mile (Car Wow), most preferred premium interior/exterior styling (Kelley Blue Book)... and less recalls (1.5m vehicles at €1bn for brake failure), future profitability after sales plummet, especially in China and ability to be competitive in BEVs. Its comical that you want to compare a 100 year old technology from a dying company that is still promoting hydrogen against a group of companies with >6 million engineering applicants a year, that is entirely devoted to physics and engineering, has mastered automated driving and landing skyscraper sized rockets!!!
@@KiwiCarLife A friend of mine has a M3 comp, i still can't believe how much he paid for this boring slow car. It's almost like reallife comedy, he hits the gas and i think "why is it so slo"
I love my SR model 3 . Great daily driver. Recently i changed the speed mode down to chill mode. Im just finding it helps when you just want to get around the place and not think too much about how fast you take off. 😅 I also switched the steering to the less aggressive mode as i find it too touchy, especially on the highway . Glad you didnt hate the Tesla lol.
@@MarkShaw1 yes, but there’s no such thing as a free lunch. If an R35 GTR got 3.5L/100km I would buy one right now! But this Tesla has the “numbers” of a GTR but it lacks almost everything else. Steering feel, sonorous sound, gear changes, just the feeling of a mechanical car with all components working together. It’s impressive sure, but sometimes the greatest cars aren’t perfect on paper.
Nah I get it. I drive a model 3 but would have a manual mx5 or Caterham if I could afford a 2nd car. Just for the fun of mastering it and keeping momentum etc on twisty roads.
@@ad_fletch yet nothing is impressive or cool about knowing how to drive a manual, just about every car in europe is a manual bruh, i own a mx 5 and its kinda boring
I never thought I would say this, but once I switched to a Tesla from a V8, I didn’t really miss the noise. Sure the V8 burble was great, but I seem to arrive places in the Tesla feeling less fatigued. I have reached the conclusion that while I like engine noise, it probably also contributes to general driver fatigue. I’m OK not to have that anymore.
Bit of an odd conclusion, when driving on the open road most cars engine noise is quieter than the road noise anyway. I’d be more stressed driving one of these trying to find a charger 😂
I have no idea the exact reason but I feel very little fatigue even after a long trip in my Model 3 Long Range. I cannot say the same for any other car I have owned although I have only ever owned practical family cars in the past. My 150ps Zafari is the only remotely fast car I owned before the Tesla. I do not miss noise in my sound system, so why would I miss engine noise?
@KiwiCarLife there's no stress because you charge at home, get home and recharge when you're not using it. So much better than watching the fuel gauge and hoping there is no queue at the servo. I find it more stressful with my motorbike needing filling up than my Tesla. Been off on 300km drive, no issues at all.
@@Rob6020 there’s never a queue at the petrol station, and charging at home is no good when every month I drive to Aucklad and back which is a nearly 2000km round trip. No charging station at the camp ground I stay at, and I pass dozens of cheap petrol stations, while not a single charger. And, I have to download an app for every single different charger. Petrol station, I just swipe my card. Plus, it’s $80 to fill my diesel Skoda which costs $12k to buy and I can do 800km to a tank. Even a similarly priced used Nissan leaf would cost around $60 to charge at charge net and are so awful to drive. A Tesla is way too expensive to reap any benefits because the minute fuel savings will be well and truly outweighed by the severe depreciation and inconvenience on long trips. EV’s simply don’t work for my usage.
Good review- I can't afford a Tesla yet but it remains my goal. What I used to love as cool broom broom engine sounds, I now think of as millions of mini explosions of vaporised fossil fuel, converting to power at a rate of 25% efficiency. Compared to electric, which is somewhere in the 90%!
Fuel turned largely into a cloud of useless heat and noise. Heat that must be aggressively pulled away from the oil so that the slivers of metal the engine runs in don't friction weld. Oil so quickly degraded by heat and carbon compounds that it must be replaced regularly. To say nothing of transmissions, cuz there isn't one.
I went from a Jaguar V8 4.0L convertible to a Model 3. Best move ever. It's fantastic to drive with a great sound system which he didn't seem to try. Wait until he becomes an owner. The free AP on highways means you can go long distances without fatigue, and for me my favourite is all the software updates you keep getting. Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841 that’s an understandable move, jaguar is an a to b luxury car. Not an engaging performance car. EV’s don’t work for me. I do too many k’s to be constantly sitting around charging my car up, not to mention it’s barely cheaper to charge an EV vs diesel.
@@KiwiCarLife The Jag sports cars, rather than touring, are fun to drive. Though my tank cost nearly 100e to fill, as opposed to 15e for my Tesla. I don't do many K so using an EV bay in my public parking once in a while is enough for me. I don't miss hunting around for petrol stations. Phillip.
Great review. Summarises positives and negatives. I was a little put off them at first. Then I drove one and while there soulless and some what a little boring there just so unbelievably practical and easy to drive. Absolutely would recommend every one to drive a Tesla so they can determine if it’s right for them
@brandonlee93if you’re really serious-go by bus! Even a MY LR AWD is f…ing faster than any gas guzzler I could have ever afforded before. And this is what I call a soul. Here in EU we’re talking 50 grand for a 525 BHP car. What more do you want?
@@zapadorAcoustic glass all the way around. Suspension is better. Seats are better. Cabin interior redesigned to soak up noise. Handling is better. I didn't like the previous model. My other car is an M140i so that's my yard stick.
@@mshackleton1 Ah alright, weren't aware of all of those changes. The previous model already does very well in these areas so improving it even further seems great!
Interesting viewpoint. No one's paying significant money for "classic EV's". They serve a purpose and this one does it well, but no one aspires to one day own a used BYD or MG EV. Why do you think people are putting the noise back into EV's all of a sudden?
@@KiwiCarLife Three mint Tesla Roadsters recently went for a million. A GM used EV1 Electric Car Sold for $465k. Noise appeals to the amygdala. ua-cam.com/video/sBrk4ediuYU/v-deo.html
I have a sneaking suspicion you might be dealing with a bunch of slightly older viewers like me who can't be bothered with the noise and smell etc any more for their main car, even if they loved those things in their 20s/30s....
4:22 Earlier I was watching the Jay Leno test drive of the latest Model 3, with a couple of Tesla engineers riding along, and they showed off that you can change the steering ratio on the fly, between about three different modes. I wonder what mode would be best for that tight and winding road.
Nice review, a couple of points, in the Tesla you don't need to warm up the engine, you can plant it as soon as you get out of your driveway. Secondly, you can plant it and no-one will know, very nice if you drive early in the morning or late at night. Lastly, though v8s sound awesome, 6s sound ok, most people drive 4 pot motors which sound like ass.
I get your point, but having to warm up your engine before flouting it is hardly an inconvenience. I live easy 7-8 minutes from the nearest fun road or motorway so anything I drive will be well warm by then anyway. Besides the Tesla has to warm up the batteries before giving you full power too. And yes most do drive 4 bangers, but I don’t so I’ll be sticking with my petrol car
@@KiwiCarLife wasn't too sure cos I've heard they used to give free supercharging on teslas but I guess if you've got solar at home you're all set anyway - loved the review by the way 👍
Good review...convince more of the boys to shift over. We ditched our V8 5 years back, for a Tesla dual motor...never looked back, amazing car. Thanks for your analysis.
Solid video! I found your channel recently and noticed the absence of EV content, to the point I was going to offer up my Model 3 for a video, but you beat me to it. It’s cool to see a petrolhead trying something new and acknowledging the pros and cons, even if it’s a bit different to what you’d usually review. Know it’s not your usual thing, but it would be cool to see some more EV content on the channel from time to time.
Electric really feels like the future. Fast, quiet, cheap to run, hardly any maintenance and so easy to drive you only really need one pedal. I miss my GT86 for the noise and handling and heel-toe action, but the EV is so much nicer to drive in 95% of situations.
Coming from an E82 135i I’m not regretting my model 3 at all. In fact it’s better in everything than my older 135i except… noise obviously. I do miss the noise from the 135i but everything else is top notch
You should of done a but of research, steering can be adjusted. I have driven one for 70k miles, saved a fortune and the performance still puts a smile on my face
Glad you enjoy yours. I fiddled with the steering before setting off, owner showed it to me. You’d think in the sport setting that would be the best for a road like that though.
Oh wow! When I first saw you in the car park walking around the Tesla, my first thought was "that really looks like Wellington..." Then when you took it onto the motorway, I instantly recognised the Raumati South motorway on ramp heading to Transmission Gully! Awesome!
There are 3 choices for the steering feel light, medium and heavy try them before complaining about the default you have 2 other choices. I bought a M3 performance that was 3 years old 5 months ago the only thing I changed was took it out of chill mode never put it back outrages performance is just more pressure on the pedal away.
That looks alot like Paekakariki Hill Road. I was just up there on the weekend on my motorbike. I have a Model Y, pretty sure you adjust steering sensitivity (and accelerator).
Sure is! And yeah the owner showed me, that only adjusts weight not ratio. The ratio is too fast where you have a lot less degrees of rotation to make subtle adjustments
Just because EV's don't have any CO2 coming out of the tailpipe, doesn't mean they're completely free of emissions either though... Batteries are a nasty process to manufacture for starters
You should really drive the new model 3 performance if you get the chance to. They have improved the car so much from what it used to be! Also would love to hear your opinion on the ND mazda mx5. Love your videos mate, keep em coming!
Would love a v8 daily myself, but for my 150km daily travel the Tesla is brilliant. Spend about $1 per 100km. No servicing. Its fast, obviously not nearly as cool as a v8, but pretty fun considering the insane speeds you get for the price!
That’s fair, I guess you charge at home hence why it’s quite cheap. My issue is I quite regularly do 700-1000km travel days. A Tesla just couldn’t do that
@@cods41 yeah that is true even in this review I got pretty used to it. Simply because there’s no noise or atmosphere to accompany it. My M135i even while slower (as you saw at the start) still impresses me every time
@@KiwiCarLifeI'm a petrol head and I'm lucky enough to do a lot of driving for work and get paid for it. Went from a Fiesta ST to a Nissan Leaf, which was a decent car, but horrible to drive. And then upgraded to a RWD Tesla model 3 to have a balance of performance, handling and economy. In hindsight I should have just got another hot hatch. The depreciation of the Tesla cancels out any savings on fuel.
For me, silence equates to effortless in my mind. Like if you had one guy at a gym bellowing and grunting while doing some curls, his face red and sweaty and veins popping, that's an ICE car. The guy next to him curling more weight while pleasantly smiling at people with no apparent strain at all, that's an EV. Or the belligerent guy at the bar vs the quiet, composed guy with a subtle smirk. Fear the quiet one. Guys who like loud cars haven't learned that quiet confidence and effortless capability are actually way more impressive.
Clever analogy, if only it actually applied. Because nothing about this video doubts EV's ability, absolutely they're faster and cheaper to run and they do it all without making any noise. Impressive. But what they're missing is the emotion that only a true petrol powered performance car can deliver. All EV's are equal, just some are faster than others. Why do you think Hyundai is trying to make their Ionic 5 N more fun by adding fake sound and gear shifts back in? That's truly what makes a car great to drive, not just how fast it is.
@KiwiCarLife My point was not about EV's ability, it was specifically about my subjective interpretation of what the lack of engine noise means. When you hear a revving ICE engine, you think "power", while I think "what a try-hard". The lack of noise in an EV makes you feel a lack of soul, but for me it makes me feel like my car has quiet confidence and effortless performance. Especially when the EV wins. For me, I imagine two guys locked in an arm wrestle where the guy that's losing is straining and grunting while the guy that wins is serene and gives no impression of effort. That's way more impressive to me than if the guy that won was also grunting and huffing. Any time a movie wants to depict how a character in any physical challenge is way better than those they're up against, that character is always silent, calm, expressionless, and appears to be making almost no effort while they mop the floor with their competitors, while those competitors are obviously putting in a ton of effort and trying as hard as they can and are all loud and emotional. So yeah, that's how I subjectively, viscerally feel when I see an EV vs ICE race and the EV isn't making any noise.
Just to comment that this isn't the Tesla Model 3 Performance that you would buy (new) today ... the model in the video is several years old. There was a cabin revision a few years ago and the new model is different again with more refinement. The car carries its already astonishing acceleration even further into the higher speed ranges. Suspension is now adjustable for comfort or sport. Completely different (more supportive and actively cooled) seats. Screen in the back for passengers etc etc ...
I'm sure it's great, but I am a used car review channel. So I take what I can get. Never on this channel have I ever had anyone say a 2020 car is "old". Just proves that like an iPhone these are a here and now product that is out of date in a few years and will be worthless.
@@KiwiCarLife No, you just needed to acknowledge that this car was just before a significant refresh and is therefore not fully representative of the model someone might buy new. This is surely the same for any make of car where a newly refreshed model has come out! Not "worthless" ... give me a break!
The most important question.. does it have lift? 😂 but in all seriousness, good review, very unbiased. I can see how it can be comforting and relaxing from the normal screaming engines and manual shifters. No rule that says you cant have both a screaming 4cyl and a quiet, yet fast relaxing car.
Nice review, certainly looks pretty quick! I am pretty happy carrying on driving the ice cars that I own, however if some nice second hand EV deals come up down the track then I may look into it.
It is hard to deny that they check a lot of boxes for a lot of people. It is the perfect example of what a primary school aged student would love to have as a 'Boss car'' in a deck of cards containing all the different cars and their specifications. Adkin to having a holographic Pokémon trading card. I think however if you grew up in a certain period of time you'll find a hard time putting it in the same company of cars as M or AMG or RS cars although it is comparable. They do still have appeal but just to a vastly different generation. Dinosaurs are amazing but they were eventually extinct because it can be argued their environment outlived them. The future will look back at our M, AMG or RS cars and eventually laugh and maybe think "Gosh those guys used wads of toilet paper to wipe themselves
Even on small hatchbacks, but it's soulless and therefore to a petrolhead like ne, meaningless. I'd rather do 0 to 60 in 10 seconds with something decent sounding
@@JuicingDailyTVall of that "soul" thing is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard... After owning an M3 for a year I throw up when I hear diesel sound and all the loud petrol stuff is just getting on my nerves ... I simply don't care anymore. And I used to drive a V8... I don't even miss it and I do miss that instant torque every time I drive petrol or diesel
@@MarkoMarkovina Man, I own a Model 3 since more than 3 years and unfortunately I have to tell you that in 3 winters, I haven't enjoyed a single minute of scraping ice from my car. I don't know if I can make it through a fourth winter, without the enjoyment of freezing my butt off for the first 10min of driving and hearing that soulful performance nailing from the diesel engine.
The good thing with electric cars is the noise can be generated and kept INSIDE the vehicle for the benefit of those who enjoy and want to listen to it.
The interior with the Ipad stuck in the centre looks absolutely crap. How can you use that while you are driving? It's like the designers thought, ah fark it, that will do.
@@Sam-go3mb Yeah they do get a bit meaningless, I’d argue against a liftback though as it has a flat loading lip, possibly doesn’t have the performance to be classed as a shooting brake, but maybe at the time it did, just. Shooting brake seems kinda snobby so prob comes from the wrong country to be in that class, also I don’t think a shooting brake is necessarily allowed 4 passenger doors. I did see a dealer class it as a SUV once, so I guess it can be anything to anyone.
@@Sam-go3mb LX Torana also came in what was officially called a hatchback. It had 6 and 8 cylinder versions. It's another car that might be better described as a liftback, though.
You should borrow a 2024 3P highland, its slightly quicker, it holds power longer in the power band, its much more quiet (less noise)), its got even quicker steering, adaptive dampers with dirving modes, heat pump in seats too, even better hw4 cameras. The 2019 you have tsted here also have a slower infotainment. The new one also has forged wheels :) The old one is also a blast, I have had a 2019 3P, but the 2024 is MUCH better, I think especially if you come from a refined petrol car you will enjoy its updates. However the old one can be had for a bargain now should be said and there isnt really another car that get you that level of performance for such a low price. PS: the feeling of light car is because the battery is very low, so centre of gravity is very low. But should also be said that compared to modern high power fossiel cars like all wheel drive m3, it is actually the same weight more or less. And other EVs with same performance, are many hundred kilos heavier than the Model 3 Performance!
Yeah lots of people are saying the new one is better. Still couldn’t own one. I drive 650km to Auckland regularly. EV would be impractical for that, and I still want some sound.
@@KiwiCarLife I dont know how often you drive, but I do drive long trips in Norway, have been doing so since 2017 in EVs. In my fourth Tesla now. Have also driven it to denmark, germany etc. on autobahn in 180+ km/h. In Norway I drive a lot in the mountains. If I start from home with a fully charged battery, on longest trips it's not that bad to charge. I dont know how your country is though.
Reduction maybe? Still takes a lot more CO2 to manufacture. I think because so much of the production is offshore and out of the wealthy west, the true scale of damage is somewhat hidden because it’s not on our back doorstep
@@KiwiCarLife Not a lot more co2 to manufacture. In the average grid it takes only a year or two to supersede co2 from similar ice. On a clean grid like NZ or Norway - about 6 mths (Argonne Lab). Around 4 times cleaner than ICE over ICE's lifetime. But BEV last 2-3 times longer! Almost all the CO2 pollution comes from use, not manufacture. We must stop using petroleum!
@@waynerussell6401 if you REALLY want to reduce CO2 emissions what we should do is stop buying new cars (EV or ICE) every three years and keep vehicles on the road for 20-30 years. Your new EV takes 10 metric tonnes of CO2 to manufacture whereas the average ICE car (driving 8k miles a year) generates around 1.4 metric tonnes of CO2 per annum. My 1995 MR2 has therefore generated 15 tons of CO2 in its 29 year lifetime. If someone replaced their leased EV every three years, in that same timespan the CO2 generated to build those EVs would be over 100 metric tonnes. In short, Petroleum isn’t the primary problem here, it’s peoples desire to consume and the need to manufacture cars to keep people employed.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 We do want to reduce CO2 and reduce the climate change that is already ravaging the world in monster storms and insurance bills that are unsustainable! That is why Tesla has the mission to reduce the number of cars manufactured by an order of magnitude asap. They are full tilt on autonomous transport as per the 10.10 reveal and the move to sustainable energy generation. In the meantime all ICE and CO2 energy generation must stop asap. We have the demonstrated technology and the means (Tesla Mission Statement 2023). Your figures are ex American Petroleum Institute propaganda! A typical passenger vehicle emits 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year (EPA). Argonne National Laboratory University of Chicago (EPA) calculates a Model 3 vs the smaller Corolla takes only 15k miles of use before it recoups its manufacturing CO2 and is cleaner, on average USA grid. Model 3 lasts ~3X life of a Corolla and the grid is rapidly getting cleaner, whilst ICE continues to get dirtier as it ages. There are dozens of Well-to-Wheel papers on the efficacy of BEVs over ICE. Read some: Uke Hoestra Endhoven University Transport&Environment Union of Concerned Scientists Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago (EPA)
@@sultanoftippoo3857yes and no! Of course you’re right in preserving and maintaining what has already been produced. No discussion!? But then you’re talking about 8kMi/y and 1.4 t CO2 /y. If I do the maths this is an average fuel consumption of 4-5 li/100km, which is in the ballpark of a small to medium sized city slicker but definitely not a 500+ BHP BEV car! You’re comparing “soccer mum” to “super performance”. Doesn’t sound fair to me. In reality the CO2 backpack of a BEV is eaten up after 2-3 years and way earlier than 50Tkm. It’s even faster if you’re using your homemade solar power.
Just because a car is faster doesn't mean it's better. Every electric car is exactly the same, just some the speedo goes up faster when you put your foot down. But there is nothing to distinguish them
For the average person who would be in the market for a new car - the price difference between a new Tesla base model at $63,900 plus on roads, and say a new Toyota Camry GX (standard petrol) at $49,990 plus on roads... - how far could you go on $14,000 worth of fuel? Doesn't make sense value wise. Not bagging electric cars - they have their place, and they are very quick. I'm just not a fan of having to wait 15 to 30 mins for a partial charge of the battery after 400kms - I'm more the HEV or PHEV way of thinking personally - 1000kms or so range in less than 5 minutes to fill up for, any day. The faster wear EVs have on tyres due the extra weight of the battery etc.... EVs not for me just yet. But great review! :)
@@JamesTheobald-lh6wd yes but also bear in mind the Tesla has a lot more features and is much faster too. But yes you would have seen from my videos how often I drive between Wellington and Auckland, and if I had an EV I just couldn’t do it. The range is the issue for me. PHEV’s are pointless imo, because you’re basically paying extra to have an average ev, and an average petrol car in one, which is both heavy and inefficient. Just a normal hybrid will get 4-5L/100km all the time while delivering good performance and being relatively cheap to manufacture, keeping resources down etc.
@@KiwiCarLife For sure - the Teslas are fantastic vehicles, and yes definitely quick due to the electric motors etc. I've got a standard hybrid myself - love it. Even has the one pedal function Tesla is known for... along with loads of features like self parking (I have no need for that myself lol), and others that I haven't yet fully discovered. But 100% on the range... I would never own an EV until the buy prices are in line with hybrids, and the kms range I currently get.
Fair comment, but there are EVs that are a lot cheaper than a Tesla, and a Model 3 is a lot quicker than a Camry. For me it's not an either/or thing. EVs are better at certain applications and ICEs are better at others. My BMW i3 is perfect in the city and suburbs, but I wouldn't want to tow a caravan the length of the country with it. I also agree that PHEVs are a compromise - low range on battery and heavy for an ICE - but under certain specific circumstances they can be the best option.
@@IanHebblethwaite there are cheaper Evs certainly - Tesla is much quicker than a Camry (but if you drove the Tesla hard and did the same with the Camry for example - you'd drive a much shorter distance than the Camry that's for certain.) I was aiming for a comparable sized vehicle - whereas the cheaper EVs are more usually smaller or much older - not of the same quality of vehicle etc... Towing is another factor that put me off Evs.
The car is not the problem the batteries are. How much is the car worth if only 30 KM range remaining? I never understood the take up of these vehicles if we don't have battery replacement program. And by that I mean get discount from the old battery and purchase a new one. And recycle the dead ones in NZ
@@RS-ve8nq yeah given this one is 5 years old and still has like 90% of its charge remaining I’d say battery replacement won’t be an issue long term. But you still have the problem of when these are 15 years old and worthless, then how do you dispose of the nasty chemicals in the batteries?
Couple points: Car batteries, unlike cellphone and laptop, will have a design life of 15-25yrs, so at worst it’s a problem for a decade down the road. Tech moves fast these days. Also, not sure about nasty chemicals, but the lithium and cobalt etc inside is worth upwards of $10/kg (10x Ali) so and expended batteries will be a solid money maker to process and extract.
@@matty893 the N55 runs less than 10psi of boost and 10.2:1 compression stock. It’s actually not particularly highly strung from factory which is why they have so much overhead. It says in the fuel cap 95 octane. There’s no need to run higher it was tuned from the factory for 95.
It sounds cool so I don't care haha. 13k to buy, and $120 to brim the tank means I could drive 160,000km in my 3.0L before it reaches the purchase price of this Tesla. And that's not including the horrendous depreciation of these EV's, and charging costs. A cheap EV makes sense, but an expensive one does not from a "cost saving" perspective.
Man you Tesla boys are insane aye. Like a magpie always moving on to the next shiny thing. No wonder these things are worthless within a few years. Outdated like an iPhone 6 while is petrol guys are like bro it’s a 2019 it’s almost the newest car I’ve ever reviewed 😂
I’m currently enjoying my Porsche Cayenne 4.2, V8 diesel but….I recognise that it’s a dinosaur and I’ll probably get a Model X Performance next….the test drive will decide it!
So get a Model 3 and get it wrapped in YELLOW...or whatever. NB I found that as I got older I wanted my cars to be quieter, NOT noisier. You'll get there!
Still a model 3, and I’m not spending 80k for a car that’s not fit for purpose. I need a car that can regularly do 700km plus. Tesla is impractical for my uses, and I will always want a car that makes noise.
"The only rear wheel drive 6 cylinder hatchback ever made .." *Ford Capri* has entered the chat > *Holden Torana* LX has entered the chat > *Nissan Z and ZX family* has entered the chat > *Renault Clio V6 Sport* has entered the chat >
Nissan Z cars are sports cars not hatches. No one says they're going to get in their 350Z hot hatchback... Same with Capri and Torana. They're a fastback coupe not a hatch, and their age makes them irrelevant today. e.g. Mitsubishi Mirage "hatch", Mitsubishi Cordia "liftback", even though they're both two door, 4 seat cars with the rear glass opening with the boot so "technically" a hatch. Clio V6 is rare as hens teeth so not even worth talking about. So yes you're right there are more... But the 130i and M135i are the only RWD 6 cylinder hatchbacks people actually "buy".
I think the Tesla is a valid form of personal transport for people who see a car simply as a way of getting from A to B quietly and comfortably. Nothing wrong with that, just isn’t for me.
@@KiwiCarLife 100% with you. Amazes me how people rave about the neck breaking acceleration of an EV (I got over that drag racing thrill a month after my 17th Birthday). To me the pleasure of owning a car is how special the car makes you feel (aesthetics, handling, how it affects your senses like hearing etc) and the way I know I have a car I really like is one that after a year of ownership, I still turn around and look at it after I’ve locked it as I’m walking away. Can’t think of anyone who would do that with any BEV currently on the market.
In my "growth through the ages" I swore that all my cars would be Manuals because I enjoyed driving and part of that enjoyment was "pushing" the car, going through the gears etc. with Rrrm Rrrrm noises. With a larger family, I eventually got dragged screaming, away from sports cars and into Family sedans. Plus, most of these were automatics. Gone was the "fun" of gear changes and real, sports car performance. Now retired, I have lost my "boy racer" need for speed and I've stayed with using automatics, even with my European cars. But, with EV's (Well, Tesla!!!) and having another "performance" vehicle, we only have one gear (not counting reverse) and with regenerative braking, I'm almost down to one pedal driving. Mmmm Progress. Strangely, I've almost forgotten having an XU 1, Datsun 240Z and a few Beemers, both performance and autos. My days of buying a series of Honda Legends are past. Bring on the future Tesla Roadster! I just hope I'm still alive and kicking when/if it ever gets here. Cheers.
Yeah overall the facelifted version has improved a lot over the previous version, feels so well made especially compared to this older version. Better suspension on all models and the Performance gets adaptive dampers. Interior is way better. You might miss the stalks for a couple of weeks, but you quickly adapt to using the buttons on the wheel.
Eh I thought so too but I barely even drove my petrol car once i got used to my ev. Yeah the gasser is gonna get me somewhere faster but the ev is just so much more comfortable.
I switched from a BMW 650 V8 and then a Porsche 997 to a KIA EV6 GT, like you I was really surprised how enjoyable these are to drive! I’ve got a BAC Mono, Honda NSX and a McLaren for weekends and the KIA absolutely holds its head up high next to those cars!
Goodness me quite the combo! See that I can understand, EV daily but with some cool petrol toys still, and at least the EV6 is more interesting than this Tesla.
No doubt about it, EVs are fun to drive and as a commuter car, IF, you can charge from home, they make a great deal of sense, but from an economical point of view, the high capital cost, horrible depreciation, higher insurance costs and limited range compared to ICEs, doesnt make sense. Modern turbo diesels are getting more efficient, mine costs 9.4p/mile as opposed to approx 4.5p/mile for an EV run on home off-peak charging. It would take 800,000 miles to recoup the costs, ie 66 years of driving.
Too sterile inside. Have to keep using the damn ipad for things that there should be knobs for. No good for an old bloke with some energy left, but very attractive to the youngsters.
The next generation will wonder why people were so slow to move from steam engines to electric. They won’t crave the noise, which bizarrely Toyota have added to one of their cars. The dinosaurs went extinct because cleverer creatures evolved.
In case no one has mentioned it yet, let me correct you comment, "it has an electric engine." It doesn't. There's no such thing. It has a motor, or motors. An engine is anywhere between 20 to 35% efficient at most and requires constant refilling of a fuel that is burned. A motor is anywhere between 90 to 96% efficient, and doesn't need any fuel. Just an electrical energy source. Such as a battery in this case, which lasts for decades and simply requires electrons moved from one side to the other.
@KiwiCarLife I have a few batteries at home that are 24 years old and all have between 90 to 93% of their original capacity. They were bought in the year 2000. There are many Teslas out there with over 500,000 miles on them. Of course, if you abuse them and don't take proper care of them, they'll degrade faster. You can even ruin them. Just like young people blow out engines all the time with not taking the proper care and running them way too hard and/or too hot all the time. Something I'm sure you'll agree with, and might even be familiar with. I know I am. You also can't count old Nissan Leaf batteries as having proper protection or management. For example, they don't have any proper cooling other than plain air for hot weather. And don't have heat pumps for winter protection. That's basically intentionally ruining the battery. Which was sort of their point. Nissan wanted no part of EV's, and was only Gosn's toy idea. So they got rid of him. The Chevy Bolt was not much better. Even some very early Teslas didn't have all the protections and battery management that all newer Teslas, and most modern EV's, have now. Some recent studies are showing that newer EV's with over 100,000 miles on them have their batteries still above 90% of their original capacities. And the best part is, that unlike fuels, they are all fully recyclable. But even old Nissan Leaf batteries are finding a second life as stationary storage, and are not getting recycled yet.
Moved from loud and fast German cars to Tesla. No regrets at all
Fair enough, I'm not ready to make the switch
@@KiwiCarLifesubscribed and enjoying your channel content. I’m not ready for the switch to electrification yet, I think when electric cars come out with solid state batteries that will be a game changer and will date the current electric cars pretty quickly I believe. Pretty sure i read somewhere MG are looking at this for next year, with other manufacturers following on in later years. Electric cars seem to be a little like laptops, as soon as new tech comes out the current ones lose value more quickly than ICE cars.Also with electric cars not selling well currently and an oversupply you would be pretty disappointed as an owner if your model is discounted up to 25k which has been occurring as of late. Interesting times for sure.
Me too.. gt4, gt3RS, Cayenne S. Now model 3P, model X’. Still have the air cooled 911, Miata but I love my Tesla!!
Me too. Out of an E92 V8 M3 into a Tesla M3P - zero regrets. Great car.
@@MSIContent Wow really? Man E90 M3 is like a dream car for me, Tesla is about as boring as warm wallpaper paste. But each to their own
Daily commute is 140km, with a Model X for six years now. Love the free fuel part. Works perfectly, even here in the coldest of Sweden. Don't miss the sound of turbos, exhaust and dump valves at all.
Fair enough, as a commuter it makes sense
As a lifelong petrol head - owned V8s, flat 6s, straight 6’s and so on I took out a Model 3 back in 2019 so I could tell everyone how rubbish they were from a point of experience, not here say. But I was blown away, and within 6 months we had our first electric car…and haven’t looked back since. (Now running cars no 4 and 5, both Teslas). I am sure they aren’t right for everyone BUT they really are a case of “don’t knock it till you try it”. Thanks for your very fair and balanced review,
Personally I would t hesitate to buy a 3 Performance like you tested with 130,000 km on the clock. But there is no way I’d buy a petrol engined car with similar performance with 130,000 km on it, I’d be too worried about any abuse it might have had from the previous owner(s) etc…
Fair enough, 130,000km is low k's man! Mine's done 160,000km and has no issues.
I met a guy once who was part of the "don't knock it until you try it", brigade. I said, "Put your cock in a bacon slicer and hit the green button", he's half the man he formerly was. Some things just require a bit of thought before trying.
Wait till you drive a current 2024. It's a much nicer car in every metric than that that years old model. But glad you got a taste of it
I’m sure it is
More refined sure, but can't get used to lack of indicator stalk...
@@ad_fletch Took me about an hour to get used to it
Funny how tesla owners never admitted this when it was out and everyone said how bad it was. Yall would justify everything. Now all the sudden it was bad and the new one is so much better. Teslas suspension is trash, driving dynamics are horrid, no HUD or even guage cluster screen, no scroll wheel for the screen, glass roof u can't close or darken in anyway.. etc etc... so much stuff other cars offer.
@@G82Watts As a current owner of a Porsche Cayenne, 66 Mustang GT, 68 Dodge Charger, Tesla M3, and more than a few motorcycles, I know a thing about cars & bikes. I didn't get an early Tesla because they kind of sucked. After about 2020, they got better. Now, the current crop are great vehicles. The 2024 Model 3 is probably the best car made today including the suspension. I drove my Porsche just about every day until the 2024 M3 came out. Now the Porsche will be sold . And you're wrong about one thing. In the Tesla groups pre-2019 or so, everyone complained. Oh, and the Porsche's 0 to 60 takes 5.4 seconds. The Tesla performance does it in 2.9. End of story. Oh, and neither the Charger or the Mustang will ever be sold
Thanks for being honest. No one has to switch to EV if they don't want to. I am a petrolhead. I switched to a Model 3 Long Range AWD a few years back from a long line of pocket rockets.
Great decision on my part. Loving every minute of it.
Glad to hear
There is no going back. My last sedan had a twin-turbo V6 rated for 400hp. My base Model 3, is about as quick but feels so much better underfoot. The reason is throttle response and not having to wait for a downshift and for the turbos to spool up. That’s a game-changer in real-world conditions such as when I want tp jump into a much faster lane or clear an intersection as quickly as possible.
As for the missing switches, I don’t miss them at all. Regular cars now seem too cluttered. All that detracts from the business of driving. In truth, the car is a mobile appliance more than a sporting vehicle but, in the role of being a driving appliance, it is exceptional. And that’s not to mention the other great feature: one-pedal driving. This is another revolution. In all but the most extreme situations, you need only one pedal which does a superb job of modulating velocitiy and acceleration/deceleration. It is a very easy car to drive smoothly.
Just the money saved on not buying petrol made me buy a tesla . 10k so far saved in a 2 years
Owen many German and Japanese cars and have no regrets with my Tesla model 3
Fair enough
My 3 1/2 year old M3 LR still gives me that new car vibe.....I feel special when I drive it and absolutely don't mind a bit when I see a duplicate of my vehicle.
Now, the big one in my book...no maintenance.
Not having a dealer in my life is reason enough alone to buy one. In addition, you get the fastest car in class and the safest car in the road.
The biggest downer to me is loss of car value due in large part to FUD and a corruption of our news networks. In addition, in California, you also have to put up with added fees for owning an EV and very high insurance.
I could never go back to ICE!
Fair enough!
U feel special driving a tesla? 😂 whatever floats ur boat I guess. That's like saying that feel special driving a Honda accord. Any average joe in the world can buy a tesla. Heck u can get a used model s plaid for 55k right now
I part exchanged my BMW 435d convertible for a Black 2021 (refresh model) Model 3 Performance. I'm not sure i could ever go back to an ICE car now. Got the aero bodykit fitted and tinted the day i bought it. Definitely stands out from the many other Teslas on the roads in the UK.
Fair enough, 435d wow that’s an interesting model we don’t get here
I loved my m3 competition. But i was never really bothered about sound as im usually too focused on driving. The model 3 performance is so much better doesn't burn a hole in my pocket almost no maintenance £5 home refill. Win win.
You traded an M3 comp on a Tesla? Good lord I’ll have your old car in a heartbeat
@@KiwiCarLife "Tesla Model 3 Performance: all things considered, the best sedan in the world." "There’s a reason every ex-BMW M3 driver I know now drives a Tesla M3. It’s the best M3 there is." "Annoyingly the Tesla Model 3 Performance is Spectacular. Okay you heard it here first, the (BMW) M3 has no reason to exist because the (Tesla) M3P is better." Cammisa.
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You are way behind the times...
@@waynerussell6401u might wanna watch his latest podcast "I'm not a straight line speed kinda guy" " I wasn't aware of the thermal and brake issues of the new model 3 when I made that first review" .. so yea I think he's had a change of opinion. Also no one that can afford a brand new g8x bmw m3 or m4 comp is trading their car for a tesla model 3. BMW has more then doubled their sales for the new g8x m3 and m4. The only people going from a m3 to a tesla are the ones that bought a used old one in the 50k range and now bought the new tesla for 50k. Completely different price brackets. Also I'm curious how the model 3 makes the bmw m3 useless? Name one performance category the model 3 beats the bmw m3 xdrive in? Bmw is faster to the quarter mile, faster 60-130, and is faster around track. Oh and doesn't overheat. While having a luxury interior and not a basic traffic exterior that's bland asf.
@@G82Watts "all things considered, the best sedan in the world."
You want to compare an every day sports sedan with a niche, very low volume, high maintenance, very expensive racing car that is not EU CO2 compliant!?
Tesla has not even released a track pack for it yet. The best batteries in the world for heat release are still in ramp and not used for the standard road car. They are used in the Cybertruck that easily beats your BMW 0-60mph, fully loaded!
The categories it beats BMW in include: value for money, efficiency, resale value, cost to own ( Consumer Reports), beats M3 on lap (Top Gear), quarter mile (Car Wow), most preferred premium interior/exterior styling (Kelley Blue Book)... and less recalls (1.5m vehicles at €1bn for brake failure), future profitability after sales plummet, especially in China and ability to be competitive in BEVs.
Its comical that you want to compare a 100 year old technology from a dying company that is still promoting hydrogen against a group of companies with >6 million engineering applicants a year, that is entirely devoted to physics and engineering, has mastered automated driving and landing skyscraper sized rockets!!!
@@KiwiCarLife A friend of mine has a M3 comp, i still can't believe how much he paid for this boring slow car. It's almost like reallife comedy, he hits the gas and i think "why is it so slo"
I love my SR model 3 . Great daily driver. Recently i changed the speed mode down to chill mode. Im just finding it helps when you just want to get around the place and not think too much about how fast you take off. 😅 I also switched the steering to the less aggressive mode as i find it too touchy, especially on the highway . Glad you didnt hate the Tesla lol.
Nice man
Your channel is quickly becoming one of my favourites, such regular rich content to learn from!!
@@jonahhorsfield2919 great to hear!
R35 GTR performance with the running costs of a Toyota Aqua is pretty sweet
@@MarkShaw1 yes, but there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
If an R35 GTR got 3.5L/100km I would buy one right now! But this Tesla has the “numbers” of a GTR but it lacks almost everything else. Steering feel, sonorous sound, gear changes, just the feeling of a mechanical car with all components working together. It’s impressive sure, but sometimes the greatest cars aren’t perfect on paper.
You list no gear changes as a minus? Really?
You are the guy reviewing the first model T that complains that it does not come with a horse 😂😂😂
Nah I get it. I drive a model 3 but would have a manual mx5 or Caterham if I could afford a 2nd car. Just for the fun of mastering it and keeping momentum etc on twisty roads.
@@ad_fletch yet nothing is impressive or cool about knowing how to drive a manual, just about every car in europe is a manual bruh, i own a mx 5 and its kinda boring
I have a SR+ Model 3 - great daily especially with the autopilot for highways. Defs want a fun manual petrol car eventually for the weekends tho
Yeah agree, Tesla and a fun petrol is a good combo
I never thought I would say this, but once I switched to a Tesla from a V8, I didn’t really miss the noise. Sure the V8 burble was great, but I seem to arrive places in the Tesla feeling less fatigued.
I have reached the conclusion that while I like engine noise, it probably also contributes to general driver fatigue.
I’m OK not to have that anymore.
Bit of an odd conclusion, when driving on the open road most cars engine noise is quieter than the road noise anyway. I’d be more stressed driving one of these trying to find a charger 😂
@@KiwiCarLifeJust tell the car where you're going, and if it's far enough for you to need a charge, the car will fjnd one all by itself.
I have no idea the exact reason but I feel very little fatigue even after a long trip in my Model 3 Long Range. I cannot say the same for any other car I have owned although I have only ever owned practical family cars in the past. My 150ps Zafari is the only remotely fast car I owned before the Tesla. I do not miss noise in my sound system, so why would I miss engine noise?
@KiwiCarLife there's no stress because you charge at home, get home and recharge when you're not using it. So much better than watching the fuel gauge and hoping there is no queue at the servo. I find it more stressful with my motorbike needing filling up than my Tesla. Been off on 300km drive, no issues at all.
@@Rob6020 there’s never a queue at the petrol station, and charging at home is no good when every month I drive to Aucklad and back which is a nearly 2000km round trip.
No charging station at the camp ground I stay at, and I pass dozens of cheap petrol stations, while not a single charger. And, I have to download an app for every single different charger. Petrol station, I just swipe my card.
Plus, it’s $80 to fill my diesel Skoda which costs $12k to buy and I can do 800km to a tank. Even a similarly priced used Nissan leaf would cost around $60 to charge at charge net and are so awful to drive. A Tesla is way too expensive to reap any benefits because the minute fuel savings will be well and truly outweighed by the severe depreciation and inconvenience on long trips. EV’s simply don’t work for my usage.
Good review- I can't afford a Tesla yet but it remains my goal. What I used to love as cool broom broom engine sounds, I now think of as millions of mini explosions of vaporised fossil fuel, converting to power at a rate of 25% efficiency. Compared to electric, which is somewhere in the 90%!
All the best with your saving man
Fuel turned largely into a cloud of useless heat and noise. Heat that must be aggressively pulled away from the oil so that the slivers of metal the engine runs in don't friction weld. Oil so quickly degraded by heat and carbon compounds that it must be replaced regularly. To say nothing of transmissions, cuz there isn't one.
I went from a Jaguar V8 4.0L convertible to a Model 3. Best move ever. It's fantastic to drive with a great sound system which he didn't seem to try. Wait until he becomes an owner. The free AP on highways means you can go long distances without fatigue, and for me my favourite is all the software updates you keep getting.
Phillip.
@@philliptemple9841 that’s an understandable move, jaguar is an a to b luxury car. Not an engaging performance car. EV’s don’t work for me. I do too many k’s to be constantly sitting around charging my car up, not to mention it’s barely cheaper to charge an EV vs diesel.
@@KiwiCarLife The Jag sports cars, rather than touring, are fun to drive. Though my tank cost nearly 100e to fill, as opposed to 15e for my Tesla.
I don't do many K so using an EV bay in my public parking once in a while is enough for me. I don't miss hunting around for petrol stations.
Phillip.
Great review. Summarises positives and negatives. I was a little put off them at first. Then I drove one and while there soulless and some what a little boring there just so unbelievably practical and easy to drive. Absolutely would recommend every one to drive a Tesla so they can determine if it’s right for them
Yeah I think they make a lot of sense for the right kind of people. I wouldn't buy one though.
They may not have soul.....But they do have Balls...
Their soul is effortless instant power at any time with sharp handling.
Their soul is the quietness. Noise represents nowadays slowness.
@brandonlee93if you’re really serious-go by bus! Even a MY LR AWD is f…ing faster than any gas guzzler I could have ever afforded before. And this is what I call a soul. Here in EU we’re talking 50 grand for a 525 BHP car. What more do you want?
The new one would just blow his mind
Would it though?
What exactly makes it better?
@@KiwiCarLife Drive it and find out.
@@zapadorAcoustic glass all the way around. Suspension is better. Seats are better. Cabin interior redesigned to soak up noise. Handling is better. I didn't like the previous model. My other car is an M140i so that's my yard stick.
@@mshackleton1 Ah alright, weren't aware of all of those changes. The previous model already does very well in these areas so improving it even further seems great!
Gas cars seem old now. Labelling ones self a petrol head is a bit self limiting. Dont miss the noise or the stink at all.
Interesting viewpoint. No one's paying significant money for "classic EV's". They serve a purpose and this one does it well, but no one aspires to one day own a used BYD or MG EV. Why do you think people are putting the noise back into EV's all of a sudden?
@@KiwiCarLife Three mint Tesla Roadsters recently went for a million.
A GM used EV1 Electric Car Sold for $465k.
Noise appeals to the amygdala.
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I have a sneaking suspicion you might be dealing with a bunch of slightly older viewers like me who can't be bothered with the noise and smell etc any more for their main car, even if they loved those things in their 20s/30s....
Three mint Tesla Roadsters recently went for a million. A GM used EV1 Electric Car Sold for $465k. Noise appeals to the amygdala.
4:22 Earlier I was watching the Jay Leno test drive of the latest Model 3, with a couple of Tesla engineers riding along, and they showed off that you can change the steering ratio on the fly, between about three different modes. I wonder what mode would be best for that tight and winding road.
That's cool, I think the owner of this showed me that feature too. At a guess I would have had it in the sportiest setting
Nice review, a couple of points, in the Tesla you don't need to warm up the engine, you can plant it as soon as you get out of your driveway. Secondly, you can plant it and no-one will know, very nice if you drive early in the morning or late at night.
Lastly, though v8s sound awesome, 6s sound ok, most people drive 4 pot motors which sound like ass.
I get your point, but having to warm up your engine before flouting it is hardly an inconvenience. I live easy 7-8 minutes from the nearest fun road or motorway so anything I drive will be well warm by then anyway. Besides the Tesla has to warm up the batteries before giving you full power too.
And yes most do drive 4 bangers, but I don’t so I’ll be sticking with my petrol car
Your Tesla batteries can be pre-warmed from your app, along with the cabin. Very convenient.
As the Top Gear guy James May opined..it's just a different way to spin a shaft when all's said and done.[or words to that effect]
@@tolrem well yeah haha I guess
I just want full self driving so I can watch tv on long or slow journeys! And I love the acceleration of the 3 performance!
Plenty of other cars that can accelerate like this and offer self driving features for a lot less money
@@KiwiCarLifeI’ll stick with FSD.
You know You can adjust the settings weight , and power delivery.. it's a great car 😊
Yeah we had a play around with that
Nice to get an true and unbiased review from a Petrolhead
Thanks!
It'll cost nothing to fill up in terms of fuel but electricity isn't free or do teslas have free charging? 1:56
Well… play on words. Next to nothing to fill, compared with a C63 AMG V8 that the power and torque rivals
@@KiwiCarLife wasn't too sure cos I've heard they used to give free supercharging on teslas but I guess if you've got solar at home you're all set anyway - loved the review by the way 👍
Good review...convince more of the boys to shift over. We ditched our V8 5 years back, for a Tesla dual motor...never looked back, amazing car. Thanks for your analysis.
Enjoy!
Solid video! I found your channel recently and noticed the absence of EV content, to the point I was going to offer up my Model 3 for a video, but you beat me to it.
It’s cool to see a petrolhead trying something new and acknowledging the pros and cons, even if it’s a bit different to what you’d usually review. Know it’s not your usual thing, but it would be cool to see some more EV content on the channel from time to time.
Thanks man! Would be cool to get an IONIC 5
@@KiwiCarLifeWas just about to recommend the ioniq 5 n lol
As someone who commutes a lot the range anxiety would be a major issue, plus the lack of time to charge it whilst commuting
Yeah agree
Electric really feels like the future. Fast, quiet, cheap to run, hardly any maintenance and so easy to drive you only really need one pedal. I miss my GT86 for the noise and handling and heel-toe action, but the EV is so much nicer to drive in 95% of situations.
I guess I could see the benefit in owning both, 86 for fun and Tesla for the daily drive. But I could never own just an ev
Wait till you get ahold of the highland M3L. Not quite as quick as the one we get here in the states but still the handling is much improved.
I’m sure, still got the same issues every ev has though
Coming from an E82 135i I’m not regretting my model 3 at all. In fact it’s better in everything than my older 135i except… noise obviously. I do miss the noise from the 135i but everything else is top notch
Fair enough
As an ev driver I completely agree. I love my car. But I see them EVERYWHERE and I must admit I miss a bit of noise every now and then
That's why I reckon having this, and a fun weekend petrol car is the way to go
There are add on kits to EVs that make noises and even fake exhaust if you miss it that much.
I would want to try one just to see if I like it or if I'm ready to buy one
Yeah well having driven a few new electric cars I kinda get the appeal. Only as a daily though, would have to have a 2nd car too
You should of done a but of research, steering can be adjusted. I have driven one for 70k miles, saved a fortune and the performance still puts a smile on my face
Glad you enjoy yours. I fiddled with the steering before setting off, owner showed it to me. You’d think in the sport setting that would be the best for a road like that though.
Absolutely love mine! 🚀💨💨💨💨
Fast car
Oh wow! When I first saw you in the car park walking around the Tesla, my first thought was "that really looks like Wellington..." Then when you took it onto the motorway, I instantly recognised the Raumati South motorway on ramp heading to Transmission Gully! Awesome!
Yep that’s the one!
There are 3 choices for the steering feel light, medium and heavy try them before complaining about the default you have 2 other choices. I bought a M3 performance that was 3 years old 5 months ago the only thing I changed was took it out of chill mode never put it back outrages performance is just more pressure on the pedal away.
The issue is not the weight, it’s the ratio. It’s too fast. Can’t change that in the ipad
Keep both 981 GTS 3.4S and Model 3 Performance. Best of both worlds and i am a car enthusiast.
That would be a nice combo
That looks alot like Paekakariki Hill Road. I was just up there on the weekend on my motorbike. I have a Model Y, pretty sure you adjust steering sensitivity (and accelerator).
Sure is! And yeah the owner showed me, that only adjusts weight not ratio. The ratio is too fast where you have a lot less degrees of rotation to make subtle adjustments
@@KiwiCarLife ok, good to know. Still, I prefer the bike 😉
Good video! Petrolheads should realize that "loving the sounds" of petrol cars is like loving smoking. You know it's bad for you and the environment.
Just because EV's don't have any CO2 coming out of the tailpipe, doesn't mean they're completely free of emissions either though... Batteries are a nasty process to manufacture for starters
You should really drive the new model 3 performance if you get the chance to. They have improved the car so much from what it used to be! Also would love to hear your opinion on the ND mazda mx5. Love your videos mate, keep em coming!
@@ThisaraGamalath thanks! Yeah one day I’m sure I’ll check it out, and yeah I’d love to do an ND MK5, done the NB and NC
What's the battery like at 130k?
It will lose roughly 4% within a couple of months, then about 1-2%/yr depending on other factors
This one still had heaps of charge, owner bought it in Queenstown and said he could do 350-400km on a charge
And still under warranty even.
Tesla batteries are good for at least 500k mile
@@mallamal5578That's best case scenario. There's many reported cases of people having to replace their battery before 200k miles.
Would love a v8 daily myself, but for my 150km daily travel the Tesla is brilliant. Spend about $1 per 100km. No servicing. Its fast, obviously not nearly as cool as a v8, but pretty fun considering the insane speeds you get for the price!
That’s fair, I guess you charge at home hence why it’s quite cheap. My issue is I quite regularly do 700-1000km travel days. A Tesla just couldn’t do that
@@KiwiCarLifeI just drove Sydney to Melbourne in 10 hours in a Model 3 Long Range.
Yeah have done Melbourne to Canberra multiple times. With Superchargers on the highway it's easy as.
After driving the model 3 Performance was shocked to learn just how quickly the novelty of the acceleration wore off, genuinely wasn't expecting that.
still waiting for it to wear off after 3years…
Agreed, it's very different to the addictive acceleration you get from a turbo charged, or high capacity petrol engine
@@cods41 yeah that is true even in this review I got pretty used to it. Simply because there’s no noise or atmosphere to accompany it. My M135i even while slower (as you saw at the start) still impresses me every time
@@KiwiCarLifeI'm a petrol head and I'm lucky enough to do a lot of driving for work and get paid for it. Went from a Fiesta ST to a Nissan Leaf, which was a decent car, but horrible to drive. And then upgraded to a RWD Tesla model 3 to have a balance of performance, handling and economy.
In hindsight I should have just got another hot hatch. The depreciation of the Tesla cancels out any savings on fuel.
@@cods41do you actually save a lot on fuel. How much extra does home electricity cost.
For me, silence equates to effortless in my mind. Like if you had one guy at a gym bellowing and grunting while doing some curls, his face red and sweaty and veins popping, that's an ICE car. The guy next to him curling more weight while pleasantly smiling at people with no apparent strain at all, that's an EV. Or the belligerent guy at the bar vs the quiet, composed guy with a subtle smirk. Fear the quiet one. Guys who like loud cars haven't learned that quiet confidence and effortless capability are actually way more impressive.
Clever analogy, if only it actually applied. Because nothing about this video doubts EV's ability, absolutely they're faster and cheaper to run and they do it all without making any noise. Impressive.
But what they're missing is the emotion that only a true petrol powered performance car can deliver. All EV's are equal, just some are faster than others. Why do you think Hyundai is trying to make their Ionic 5 N more fun by adding fake sound and gear shifts back in? That's truly what makes a car great to drive, not just how fast it is.
@KiwiCarLife My point was not about EV's ability, it was specifically about my subjective interpretation of what the lack of engine noise means. When you hear a revving ICE engine, you think "power", while I think "what a try-hard". The lack of noise in an EV makes you feel a lack of soul, but for me it makes me feel like my car has quiet confidence and effortless performance. Especially when the EV wins. For me, I imagine two guys locked in an arm wrestle where the guy that's losing is straining and grunting while the guy that wins is serene and gives no impression of effort. That's way more impressive to me than if the guy that won was also grunting and huffing. Any time a movie wants to depict how a character in any physical challenge is way better than those they're up against, that character is always silent, calm, expressionless, and appears to be making almost no effort while they mop the floor with their competitors, while those competitors are obviously putting in a ton of effort and trying as hard as they can and are all loud and emotional. So yeah, that's how I subjectively, viscerally feel when I see an EV vs ICE race and the EV isn't making any noise.
As a car guy, id love one of these as my daily. Just a tad exxy for me.
@@fredericoespinoza yeah that’s where they make sense, Tesla daily, fun petrol weekend car
Just to comment that this isn't the Tesla Model 3 Performance that you would buy (new) today ... the model in the video is several years old. There was a cabin revision a few years ago and the new model is different again with more refinement. The car carries its already astonishing acceleration even further into the higher speed ranges. Suspension is now adjustable for comfort or sport. Completely different (more supportive and actively cooled) seats. Screen in the back for passengers etc etc ...
I'm sure it's great, but I am a used car review channel. So I take what I can get.
Never on this channel have I ever had anyone say a 2020 car is "old". Just proves that like an iPhone these are a here and now product that is out of date in a few years and will be worthless.
@@KiwiCarLife No, you just needed to acknowledge that this car was just before a significant refresh and is therefore not fully representative of the model someone might buy new. This is surely the same for any make of car where a newly refreshed model has come out! Not "worthless" ... give me a break!
The most important question.. does it have lift? 😂 but in all seriousness, good review, very unbiased. I can see how it can be comforting and relaxing from the normal screaming engines and manual shifters. No rule that says you cant have both a screaming 4cyl and a quiet, yet fast relaxing car.
@@AccordCL9-ZA yeah this definitely makes sense if you also have a super fun petrol car.
yeah, perfect gift for grandma
Is a golf gti/r more boring? You labelled them pretty boring
@@Pixels1920 oh no this is way more boring haha
Nice review, certainly looks pretty quick!
I am pretty happy carrying on driving the ice cars that I own, however if some nice second hand EV deals come up down the track then I may look into it.
Yeah they kinda make sense as a daily, but I wouldn't have one as my only car
It is hard to deny that they check a lot of boxes for a lot of people. It is the perfect example of what a primary school aged student would love to have as a 'Boss car'' in a deck of cards containing all the different cars and their specifications. Adkin to having a holographic Pokémon trading card. I think however if you grew up in a certain period of time you'll find a hard time putting it in the same company of cars as M or AMG or RS cars although it is comparable. They do still have appeal but just to a vastly different generation. Dinosaurs are amazing but they were eventually extinct because it can be argued their environment outlived them. The future will look back at our M, AMG or RS cars and eventually laugh and maybe think "Gosh those guys used wads of toilet paper to wipe themselves
Yeah that's a good analogy, it would be the ultimate pokemon card, but that really means nothing in the real world
Acceleration on quick evs is absolutely bone shattering 🤣🤣
Sure is!
Even on small hatchbacks, but it's soulless and therefore to a petrolhead like ne, meaningless. I'd rather do 0 to 60 in 10 seconds with something decent sounding
@@JuicingDailyTV agree!
@@JuicingDailyTVall of that "soul" thing is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard... After owning an M3 for a year I throw up when I hear diesel sound and all the loud petrol stuff is just getting on my nerves ... I simply don't care anymore. And I used to drive a V8... I don't even miss it and I do miss that instant torque every time I drive petrol or diesel
@@MarkoMarkovina Man, I own a Model 3 since more than 3 years and unfortunately I have to tell you that in 3 winters, I haven't enjoyed a single minute of scraping ice from my car. I don't know if I can make it through a fourth winter, without the enjoyment of freezing my butt off for the first 10min of driving and hearing that soulful performance nailing from the diesel engine.
Make a video on how much EMF you and your passengers are exposed to whilst driving it.
Haha true
The good thing with electric cars is the noise can be generated and kept INSIDE the vehicle for the benefit of those who enjoy and want to listen to it.
Yeah true I like the idea of the Ionic 5 N for that reason
The interior with the Ipad stuck in the centre looks absolutely crap. How can you use that while you are driving? It's like the designers thought, ah fark it, that will do.
Yeah have to agree. All the techy guys love it but I think it’s just lazy design and is definitely not safe to use while driving
The Altezza Gita is arguably a rear wheel drive 6 cylinder hatchback. Dimensions are smaller than a current Corolla.
It’s more of a wagon tho isn’t it…
@@KiwiCarLife you could say that, but I’m not sure why really, has a sloping back and not much boot space
@@paul--b Then it's technically a 'liftback' isn't it? or a 4 door shooting brake? the definitions become a bit meaningless tbh 😂
@@Sam-go3mb Yeah they do get a bit meaningless, I’d argue against a liftback though as it has a flat loading lip, possibly doesn’t have the performance to be classed as a shooting brake, but maybe at the time it did, just. Shooting brake seems kinda snobby so prob comes from the wrong country to be in that class, also I don’t think a shooting brake is necessarily allowed 4 passenger doors. I did see a dealer class it as a SUV once, so I guess it can be anything to anyone.
@@Sam-go3mb LX Torana also came in what was officially called a hatchback. It had 6 and 8 cylinder versions. It's another car that might be better described as a liftback, though.
The 2024 refreshed Performance model is even faster off the line and does not ease up on the top end.
Very cool
You should try the new model!
Maybe, all EV’s are the same
I drove one for 30 minutes. The whole thing makes me sad.
@@drsavage5597 In what way?
Great review, made sense.
Thanks
Rear wheel drive 6 cyl hatchback : Ford Pinto V6 hatch. Genuine hatchback.
lol
You should borrow a 2024 3P highland, its slightly quicker, it holds power longer in the power band, its much more quiet (less noise)), its got even quicker steering, adaptive dampers with dirving modes, heat pump in seats too, even better hw4 cameras. The 2019 you have tsted here also have a slower infotainment. The new one also has forged wheels :)
The old one is also a blast, I have had a 2019 3P, but the 2024 is MUCH better, I think especially if you come from a refined petrol car you will enjoy its updates.
However the old one can be had for a bargain now should be said and there isnt really another car that get you that level of performance for such a low price.
PS: the feeling of light car is because the battery is very low, so centre of gravity is very low.
But should also be said that compared to modern high power fossiel cars like all wheel drive m3, it is actually the same weight more or less.
And other EVs with same performance, are many hundred kilos heavier than the Model 3 Performance!
Yeah lots of people are saying the new one is better. Still couldn’t own one. I drive 650km to Auckland regularly. EV would be impractical for that, and I still want some sound.
@@KiwiCarLife I dont know how often you drive, but I do drive long trips in Norway, have been doing so since 2017 in EVs. In my fourth Tesla now.
Have also driven it to denmark, germany etc. on autobahn in 180+ km/h. In Norway I drive a lot in the mountains.
If I start from home with a fully charged battery, on longest trips it's not that bad to charge. I dont know how your country is though.
No to mention the lack of pollution and reduction of CO2
Reduction maybe? Still takes a lot more CO2 to manufacture. I think because so much of the production is offshore and out of the wealthy west, the true scale of damage is somewhat hidden because it’s not on our back doorstep
@@KiwiCarLife Not a lot more co2 to manufacture.
In the average grid it takes only a year or two to supersede co2 from similar ice.
On a clean grid like NZ or Norway - about 6 mths (Argonne Lab).
Around 4 times cleaner than ICE over ICE's lifetime. But BEV last 2-3 times longer!
Almost all the CO2 pollution comes from use, not manufacture.
We must stop using petroleum!
@@waynerussell6401 if you REALLY want to reduce CO2 emissions what we should do is stop buying new cars (EV or ICE) every three years and keep vehicles on the road for 20-30 years.
Your new EV takes 10 metric tonnes of CO2 to manufacture whereas the average ICE car (driving 8k miles a year) generates around 1.4 metric tonnes of CO2 per annum.
My 1995 MR2 has therefore generated 15 tons of CO2 in its 29 year lifetime. If someone replaced their leased EV every three years, in that same timespan the CO2 generated to build those EVs would be over 100 metric tonnes.
In short, Petroleum isn’t the primary problem here, it’s peoples desire to consume and the need to manufacture cars to keep people employed.
@@sultanoftippoo3857 We do want to reduce CO2 and reduce the climate change that is already ravaging the world in monster storms and insurance bills that are unsustainable!
That is why Tesla has the mission to reduce the number of cars manufactured by an order of magnitude asap. They are full tilt on autonomous transport as per the 10.10 reveal and the move to sustainable energy generation.
In the meantime all ICE and CO2 energy generation must stop asap. We have the demonstrated technology and the means (Tesla Mission Statement 2023).
Your figures are ex American Petroleum Institute propaganda!
A typical passenger vehicle emits 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year (EPA).
Argonne National Laboratory University of Chicago (EPA) calculates a Model 3 vs the smaller Corolla takes only 15k miles of use before it recoups its manufacturing CO2 and is cleaner, on average USA grid. Model 3 lasts ~3X life of a Corolla and the grid is rapidly getting cleaner, whilst ICE continues to get dirtier as it ages.
There are dozens of Well-to-Wheel papers on the efficacy of BEVs over ICE. Read some:
Uke Hoestra Endhoven University
Transport&Environment
Union of Concerned Scientists
Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago (EPA)
@@sultanoftippoo3857yes and no! Of course you’re right in preserving and maintaining what has already been produced. No discussion!?
But then you’re talking about 8kMi/y and 1.4 t CO2 /y. If I do the maths this is an average fuel consumption of 4-5 li/100km, which is in the ballpark of a small to medium sized city slicker but definitely not a 500+ BHP BEV car! You’re comparing “soccer mum” to “super performance”. Doesn’t sound fair to me.
In reality the CO2 backpack of a BEV is eaten up after 2-3 years and way earlier than 50Tkm. It’s even faster if you’re using your homemade solar power.
Now you have me thinking should I convert my ' 380 ' to an EV ?
Would probably make it faster!
you should try out th new 2024 M3P. even better.
Just because a car is faster doesn't mean it's better. Every electric car is exactly the same, just some the speedo goes up faster when you put your foot down. But there is nothing to distinguish them
Multiple improvements and enhancements/upgrades with the 2024 M3P. Just saying. Not just speed
For the average person who would be in the market for a new car - the price difference between a new Tesla base model at $63,900 plus on roads, and say a new Toyota Camry GX (standard petrol) at $49,990 plus on roads... - how far could you go on $14,000 worth of fuel? Doesn't make sense value wise. Not bagging electric cars - they have their place, and they are very quick. I'm just not a fan of having to wait 15 to 30 mins for a partial charge of the battery after 400kms - I'm more the HEV or PHEV way of thinking personally - 1000kms or so range in less than 5 minutes to fill up for, any day. The faster wear EVs have on tyres due the extra weight of the battery etc.... EVs not for me just yet. But great review! :)
@@JamesTheobald-lh6wd yes but also bear in mind the Tesla has a lot more features and is much faster too. But yes you would have seen from my videos how often I drive between Wellington and Auckland, and if I had an EV I just couldn’t do it. The range is the issue for me. PHEV’s are pointless imo, because you’re basically paying extra to have an average ev, and an average petrol car in one, which is both heavy and inefficient. Just a normal hybrid will get 4-5L/100km all the time while delivering good performance and being relatively cheap to manufacture, keeping resources down etc.
@@KiwiCarLife For sure - the Teslas are fantastic vehicles, and yes definitely quick due to the electric motors etc. I've got a standard hybrid myself - love it. Even has the one pedal function Tesla is known for... along with loads of features like self parking (I have no need for that myself lol), and others that I haven't yet fully discovered. But 100% on the range... I would never own an EV until the buy prices are in line with hybrids, and the kms range I currently get.
Fair comment, but there are EVs that are a lot cheaper than a Tesla, and a Model 3 is a lot quicker than a Camry. For me it's not an either/or thing. EVs are better at certain applications and ICEs are better at others. My BMW i3 is perfect in the city and suburbs, but I wouldn't want to tow a caravan the length of the country with it.
I also agree that PHEVs are a compromise - low range on battery and heavy for an ICE - but under certain specific circumstances they can be the best option.
@@IanHebblethwaite there are cheaper Evs certainly - Tesla is much quicker than a Camry (but if you drove the Tesla hard and did the same with the Camry for example - you'd drive a much shorter distance than the Camry that's for certain.) I was aiming for a comparable sized vehicle - whereas the cheaper EVs are more usually smaller or much older - not of the same quality of vehicle etc... Towing is another factor that put me off Evs.
The Toyota Camry will be built well and have an all round ownership experience so my pick is the Camry
The car is not the problem the batteries are. How much is the car worth if only 30 KM range remaining? I never understood the take up of these vehicles if we don't have battery replacement program. And by that I mean get discount from the old battery and purchase a new one. And recycle the dead ones in NZ
The batteries don't degrade quickly on these like Nissan leafs and are generally designed to last the life of the car
Battery is still under warranty for a few more years
@@RS-ve8nq yeah given this one is 5 years old and still has like 90% of its charge remaining I’d say battery replacement won’t be an issue long term. But you still have the problem of when these are 15 years old and worthless, then how do you dispose of the nasty chemicals in the batteries?
Couple points: Car batteries, unlike cellphone and laptop, will have a design life of 15-25yrs, so at worst it’s a problem for a decade down the road. Tech moves fast these days. Also, not sure about nasty chemicals, but the lithium and cobalt etc inside is worth upwards of $10/kg (10x Ali) so and expended batteries will be a solid money maker to process and extract.
@@MarkShaw1 What is life of the car? its all down to life of the battery. Sure, Tesla are better but its still looking at loosing value after 10 yrs
I enjoy your video's and the improvement in quality lately. Next step could be improving your own presentation and dressing a bit nicer
Thanks for the feedback
cars only have the soul that the driver gives them.
I cannot agree with that. Some cars have it and some don’t
Putting 95 into a high performance, high compression turbo engine - why do you not put 98 in??
@@matty893 the N55 runs less than 10psi of boost and 10.2:1 compression stock. It’s actually not particularly highly strung from factory which is why they have so much overhead. It says in the fuel cap 95 octane. There’s no need to run higher it was tuned from the factory for 95.
Yeah throwing your money away unless the car absolutely requires it.
A 3 litre 6 cylinder engine sounds like a money pit to me petrol wise.
It sounds cool so I don't care haha. 13k to buy, and $120 to brim the tank means I could drive 160,000km in my 3.0L before it reaches the purchase price of this Tesla. And that's not including the horrendous depreciation of these EV's, and charging costs.
A cheap EV makes sense, but an expensive one does not from a "cost saving" perspective.
I'd definitely consider an older Nissan Leaf as a commuter car.
Gimmi my buttons back!.....and my personal data.
Haha fair enough! Definitely prefer physical buttons too
Old model!?
Man you Tesla boys are insane aye. Like a magpie always moving on to the next shiny thing. No wonder these things are worthless within a few years. Outdated like an iPhone 6 while is petrol guys are like bro it’s a 2019 it’s almost the newest car I’ve ever reviewed 😂
I trade a Porsche Macan S for a Model 3 Long range and until now I don't miss the Macan to be honest.
Fair enough
This doesn’t look like the highland version.
What makes a model a highland?
I’m currently enjoying my Porsche Cayenne 4.2, V8 diesel but….I recognise that it’s a dinosaur and I’ll probably get a Model X Performance next….the test drive will decide it!
Oh wow I’d be keeping the Porsche
So get a Model 3 and get it wrapped in YELLOW...or whatever.
NB I found that as I got older I wanted my cars to be quieter, NOT noisier. You'll get there!
Still a model 3, and I’m not spending 80k for a car that’s not fit for purpose. I need a car that can regularly do 700km plus. Tesla is impractical for my uses, and I will always want a car that makes noise.
"The only rear wheel drive 6 cylinder hatchback ever made .."
*Ford Capri* has entered the chat >
*Holden Torana* LX has entered the chat >
*Nissan Z and ZX family* has entered the chat >
*Renault Clio V6 Sport* has entered the chat >
Nissan Z cars are sports cars not hatches. No one says they're going to get in their 350Z hot hatchback...
Same with Capri and Torana. They're a fastback coupe not a hatch, and their age makes them irrelevant today. e.g. Mitsubishi Mirage "hatch", Mitsubishi Cordia "liftback", even though they're both two door, 4 seat cars with the rear glass opening with the boot so "technically" a hatch.
Clio V6 is rare as hens teeth so not even worth talking about.
So yes you're right there are more... But the 130i and M135i are the only RWD 6 cylinder hatchbacks people actually "buy".
@@KiwiCarLifeAll liftbacks are hatchbacks. .. in the same way all lions are cats.
I think the Tesla is a valid form of personal transport for people who see a car simply as a way of getting from A to B quietly and comfortably. Nothing wrong with that, just isn’t for me.
Yeah agree, just giving an a to b car more power doesn't make it "better" just faster.
@@KiwiCarLife 100% with you. Amazes me how people rave about the neck breaking acceleration of an EV (I got over that drag racing thrill a month after my 17th Birthday).
To me the pleasure of owning a car is how special the car makes you feel (aesthetics, handling, how it affects your senses like hearing etc) and the way I know I have a car I really like is one that after a year of ownership, I still turn around and look at it after I’ve locked it as I’m walking away. Can’t think of anyone who would do that with any BEV currently on the market.
Why rush the transition at 0:37? I like your usual Clarksonesque cadence when you dramatically say "compared... to that"!
Funnily enough my gf and I watched the video tonight before posting and she thought it was too long which is why I shortened it...
@@KiwiCarLife mate! always a joy to watch your videos. I don't mind a few minutes longer haha.
@@GeorgeXianhaha thanks for the feedback I’ll keep that in mind
In my "growth through the ages" I swore that all my cars would be Manuals because I enjoyed driving and part of that enjoyment was "pushing" the car, going through the gears etc. with Rrrm Rrrrm noises.
With a larger family, I eventually got dragged screaming, away from sports cars and into Family sedans. Plus, most of these were automatics. Gone was the "fun" of gear changes and real, sports car performance.
Now retired, I have lost my "boy racer" need for speed and I've stayed with using automatics, even with my European cars. But, with EV's (Well, Tesla!!!) and having another "performance" vehicle, we only have one gear (not counting reverse) and with regenerative braking, I'm almost down to one pedal driving. Mmmm Progress. Strangely, I've almost forgotten having an XU 1, Datsun 240Z and a few Beemers, both performance and autos. My days of buying a series of Honda Legends are past. Bring on the future Tesla Roadster! I just hope I'm still alive and kicking when/if it ever gets here. Cheers.
Nice man!
yes, u are getting old, and it is fine.
Noise Vroom Vroom? Are you 6 years old?
Having an engine that makes noise is a significant factor in improving a car’s soul and connection to the drive
@@KiwiCarLifegarbage
How many EV owners actually change the batteries ?
Not many... when the battery dies, the car is borderline worthless anyway.
these new lfp batts only degrade about 1% per year so they'll outlast the car.
@@KiwiCarLifebatteries aren't dying
the new Tesla model 3 performance is a lot better, better seats, better interior better sound system more energy efficient.
Oh I imagine it would be better
Yeah overall the facelifted version has improved a lot over the previous version, feels so well made especially compared to this older version. Better suspension on all models and the Performance gets adaptive dampers. Interior is way better. You might miss the stalks for a couple of weeks, but you quickly adapt to using the buttons on the wheel.
Electric cars are great, as a second car alongside a petrol one 🤙
Yep that’s where it makes sense
Tbh it makes the petrol car obsolete
@@Tommmmmmmmmmmm obsolete to who? Definitely not obsolete to people who like them, which would be most car enthusiasts
Eh I thought so too but I barely even drove my petrol car once i got used to my ev.
Yeah the gasser is gonna get me somewhere faster but the ev is just so much more comfortable.
Why drive a lesser ice car when teslas beat them on any meaningful metric.
Love my M3P , got sick of getting the engine light and paying bills constantly on my BMW, nothing to do with a Green Agenda ..
Fair enough, what BMW did you have?
I switched from a BMW 650 V8 and then a Porsche 997 to a KIA EV6 GT, like you I was really surprised how enjoyable these are to drive!
I’ve got a BAC Mono, Honda NSX and a McLaren for weekends and the KIA absolutely holds its head up high next to those cars!
Goodness me quite the combo! See that I can understand, EV daily but with some cool petrol toys still, and at least the EV6 is more interesting than this Tesla.
@@KiwiCarLifeyes, I haven’t driven a Tesla. The KIA is surprisingly fun to drive, you can tell some real car guys were involved in making it.
No doubt about it, EVs are fun to drive and as a commuter car, IF, you can charge from home, they make a great deal of sense, but from an economical point of view, the high capital cost, horrible depreciation, higher insurance costs and limited range compared to ICEs, doesnt make sense. Modern turbo diesels are getting more efficient, mine costs 9.4p/mile as opposed to approx 4.5p/mile for an EV run on home off-peak charging. It would take 800,000 miles to recoup the costs, ie 66 years of driving.
Yeah have to agree, hence why I drive a modern diesel too!
'weiht up? No Pitril engine', you say? Luv the safety ?? barriers in NZ.
Clearly never heard an NZ accent before
You told the truth, nice change for a petrol head
I guess
Too sterile inside. Have to keep using the damn ipad for things that there should be knobs for. No good for an old bloke with some energy left, but very attractive to the youngsters.
Yeah agree I prefer physical controls
also not attractive to youngsters that know how an engine should sound, so maybe attractive for primary school kids
Dude just discovered Tesla 2 weeks ago 😂😂
😂😂
When people get over the sound of their own ego and listen closely, there are distinct motor wines/noises from every Tesla I have ever driven.
Yes, but it’s nothing compared with the sound of a turbocharged inline 6
@@KiwiCarLifeI could never hear the engine even when I drove ICE vehicles since I'm always blasting my music but agree if I owned a V8.
The next generation will wonder why people were so slow to move from steam engines to electric. They won’t crave the noise, which bizarrely Toyota have added to one of their cars. The dinosaurs went extinct because cleverer creatures evolved.
Steam engines? They died out 100 years ago
In case no one has mentioned it yet, let me correct you comment, "it has an electric engine." It doesn't. There's no such thing. It has a motor, or motors. An engine is anywhere between 20 to 35% efficient at most and requires constant refilling of a fuel that is burned. A motor is anywhere between 90 to 96% efficient, and doesn't need any fuel. Just an electrical energy source. Such as a battery in this case, which lasts for decades and simply requires electrons moved from one side to the other.
Thanks for the clarification, batteries do not last decades without significant degradation though.
@KiwiCarLife I have a few batteries at home that are 24 years old and all have between 90 to 93% of their original capacity. They were bought in the year 2000. There are many Teslas out there with over 500,000 miles on them.
Of course, if you abuse them and don't take proper care of them, they'll degrade faster. You can even ruin them. Just like young people blow out engines all the time with not taking the proper care and running them way too hard and/or too hot all the time. Something I'm sure you'll agree with, and might even be familiar with. I know I am.
You also can't count old Nissan Leaf batteries as having proper protection or management. For example, they don't have any proper cooling other than plain air for hot weather. And don't have heat pumps for winter protection. That's basically intentionally ruining the battery. Which was sort of their point. Nissan wanted no part of EV's, and was only Gosn's toy idea. So they got rid of him. The Chevy Bolt was not much better.
Even some very early Teslas didn't have all the protections and battery management that all newer Teslas, and most modern EV's, have now. Some recent studies are showing that newer EV's with over 100,000 miles on them have their batteries still above 90% of their original capacities.
And the best part is, that unlike fuels, they are all fully recyclable. But even old Nissan Leaf batteries are finding a second life as stationary storage, and are not getting recycled yet.
It's like changing from a blackberry to an iphone
Exactly, and no one uses an iPhone 6 anymore. So when these are 10 years old they’ll be going to the wrecker while petrol cars last for decades
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Except you can play games, included, on that screen.
I've got a PC at home for that
That is a really old car. Why aren't you reviewing a new one?
Because I am a used car review channel
Review a BYD Seal, especially the 2.8 second one! More buttons, more natural driving feel, better build quality
Yeah I've heard good things about them. I like the styling. That and the IONIC 5 N