A Bluetooth thermometer for bbq works great for temperature control. It sends alerts to your phone when it starts to heat up and allows you better control of when to turn the pile. Great job!! Natural farming 4 life 😎
I kept mine from getting too hot by putting 16 oz soft drink bottles (about 8 -10 of them) filled with water in the pile. I changed them out daily when I turned the pile. I had 2 sets so I could switch out the warm bottles with cool bottles of water. It made it so much easier to keep the temp in the correct range and not heating up too much.
Thanks for the advice about how there might be little activity for the first few days 🥺. That tip eased my mind until day four, when my concoction REALLY fired up 🔥
In my younger years, I did see my aunt, and grandmother use bran/molasses/cider vinegar/and small amount of hot manure as a soil builder. They would mix that together for 14 days, mixing once a day. Then after the two weeks they would add to the fall leaf piles for use in spring gardens. They always had great gardens and only seemed to add the leaves or a little straw to there mix. Is this the same idea to what you are doing? They told me if it smells bad, it is bad! If it had a beer/bread dough smell (there words I think we're "sweet" smell) you were golden!
Yes it's similar! Though I wonder if they captured the full spectrum of microbial life, depending on the temp that their piles got. I worked with hot composting for most of my childhood and it seemed to work pretty well- just digging a little deeper these days. Definitely trust your nose in this space.
This is very different from my experience with compost piles but sounds great considering here in Central Florida our soil is deficient in everything except calcium and silica, it's basically a sandbar sitting on limestone that doesn't hold water very well and water soluble nutrients quickly leave the area where they're available to plants.
Nice!!!... GOOD STUFF...Thanks for sharing...just a thought ...Was wonder if you make it not as deep and some air holes for more circulation.. Maybe 2 bins for that amount of material ??...more airflow as well:)
Hello Veronica. Thanks for your passion towards regenitive nature's for our planet. I try to re use any and everything I can. I have an electrical background with a new passion for gardening / self sustainability living and eating since I had my daughter. I unfortunately learned the GA clay is not so great for growing. The natural wildflowers and weeds grow great. I just started a compost bin but will most likely modify it as I keep learning from you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion. If you are ever soil testing or need a new challenge my daughter and I are wanting to make the best garden ever in Canton, GA. PS. Possiblity do a video on natural preservation of what we have grown... We got a few strawberries and the deer and squirrel ate just as many and didn't turn any soil with us. Lol thanks!!!
I also wanted your opinion. I have quite a few over grown trees, and more saplings starting. A lot of hickory, poplar, oak, tall hardwoods. The block my east to west sun... I'd it ok to cut or prune trees with the intent of more sun to grow edibles? Or do I need to find ways to hang pots up in the trees? I hate to cut any trees, but I have just over an acre with only a small area that gets only mid day sun. Thanks again
1) clay is honestly a blessing in disguise- the amount of minerals almost available makes a huge difference once you begin adding more organic matter to it (and insulating it with mulch.) so while it can feel like a slog, keep at it and thank your lucky stars you don't have sand! 🤣 2) the question about cutting trees is important in figuring out stewardship for sure. You have to do what supports you and your ecosystem at the same time. That being said, I encourage you to consider working with growing in some of the shade (especially if any is late day) since you're in a hot climate, but of course observe and remove what's necessary for you to grow food. Just don't wipe out all of anything that you can't regrow in a decade or two. Better to work around / with than against.
@@VeronicaFlores thanks, I actually cut back a few leaders and got the sun to shine through much better. I have been mixing in mulch compost for the last 2 years, I'm starting to see a difference in the grass too. It's interesting, did cut a few trees down to clean up. I wanted to reuse wood. I made some natural fence to help section the garden. The fence came to life and started growing! So did the stump! So I got sun, free wood for fencing, and the trees are still growing. Win, win, win. :)
Hello Veronica, I am from Buenos Aires Argentina, what you show is very interesting, I congratulate you. You have videos how you do the other components (microorganism and lactobacillus) that you add to the mixture of rice bran and oats. Thank you very much for your contribution. Greetings !!
I’m a few days late to this... have you considered making a starter culture? It would be similar to sour dough as you compared it to. I’ve never done what you are demonstrating but I’ve cultured bacteria and yeast in a lab. It’s a very controlled environment but I’m certain the principles would hold. If I were doing this I would have thrown a couple handfuls of your “media” or matrix into those collection jars and shaken it around and left the lid off. The microbes should wake from dormancy after about 24 hours. Sugar may expedite the process and aeration definitely will. And if you could maintain 37 Celsius even better. Then after the culture is in logarithmic phase, mix it into your bulk. It should be fired up and tearing through the media quickly. Based on what I’m seeing. It might benefit from additional moisture. But then again, I’m not entirely sure what your end product should be. I’m guessing you’re making a bulk inoculum of indigenous microbiology?
I do this. Collect partially composted leaves and twigs from the forest nearby and place clumps here and there in my garden beds to help innoculate the soil with local microbes. I place some in my compost piles too.
Where is this located, meaning what state are you in (what climate type)? Looking at your channel I noticed several videos using raised beds which don't work very good here in Florida because they dry out so fast and I hope that isn't a requirement. With these IMO cultures assuming there's some in every state / region, what do you notice to be the tolerances they have for temperature swings or is it just irrelevant because each species has adapted to its native climate? Sorry but I'm green as hell and this is day 1 (my introduction to IMO) Thanks for the information and great video
North Texas in this video, can get very hot and dry so raised beds do require additional moisture as they would there- not a requirement for IMO use at all, can use with in ground plantings as well. Tolerance is adaptive AFAIK- I wouldn't use a collection from more than a few miles away, closer is definitely better.
Regenerative agriculture! 💓 Looking forward to my kit! Having studied applied microbiology I have a ton of questions about these types of techniques. Can you recommend one or two good books?
Would drilling holes in your plastic bin and lining the bin with a loosely woven cloth or small grid welded wire, so the medium wouldn't spill out but still allow for more heat transfer and air flow, have helped in controlling the temperature? Relocating? Are you sick of Texas and moving back to California? 😄 If that's the case I can relate. Could only take texas for 6 months before moving back. Yup I'm a puss.😄
Well the bin is technically around to hold water, so it would remove that use case for it... but yeah, I think that might help. Or just having a dedicated space with restricted access. I'm leaving Texas because I'm running towards something, not away from anything. More details soon.
When you start climbing higher into “cooking temperatures”, the microbial composition of the pile begins to change as some microbes aren’t heat tolerant (I’m not entirely sure if this is a “death vs dormancy” thing, but the current consensus seems to be death for some potentially beneficial life forms.) Without getting too deep into the thermodynamics of microscopic biology reproduction, you basically start to get “dead zones” that are “cooked” (and in larger scale instances, can catch on fire.) That being said, a ton of people do hot composting in an effort to eradicate pathogens and weed seeds - for this context, the goal is to “grow out” microbial life, so cooking it would be in direct opposition to the point of the work.
I don't see why not - I think rice is recommended because that's what was available when the KNF "recipes" we're written (and also bc it's a good source of silica I think?) but I've heard of people using all sorts of chaff and bran (even dogfood.) Mostly needs a source of carbs it seems.
A Bluetooth thermometer for bbq works great for temperature control. It sends alerts to your phone when it starts to heat up and allows you better control of when to turn the pile. Great job!! Natural farming 4 life 😎
Good idea!
I kept mine from getting too hot by putting 16 oz soft drink bottles (about 8 -10 of them) filled with water in the pile. I changed them out daily when I turned the pile. I had 2 sets so I could switch out the warm bottles with cool bottles of water. It made it so much easier to keep the temp in the correct range and not heating up too much.
Smart!
Thanks for the advice about how there might be little activity for the first few days 🥺. That tip eased my mind until day four, when my concoction REALLY fired up 🔥
In my younger years, I did see my aunt, and grandmother use bran/molasses/cider vinegar/and small amount of hot manure as a soil builder. They would mix that together for 14 days, mixing once a day. Then after the two weeks they would add to the fall leaf piles for use in spring gardens. They always had great gardens and only seemed to add the leaves or a little straw to there mix. Is this the same idea to what you are doing?
They told me if it smells bad, it is bad! If it had a beer/bread dough smell (there words I think we're "sweet" smell) you were golden!
Yes it's similar! Though I wonder if they captured the full spectrum of microbial life, depending on the temp that their piles got. I worked with hot composting for most of my childhood and it seemed to work pretty well- just digging a little deeper these days. Definitely trust your nose in this space.
Very good to see you and thank you Veronica..Stay well
Awesome!
Hair is looking fantastic as usual, and you have great microbes too...
Nice to see you again honey. Very interesting what you are doing . Safe travels and God Bless you.
I just luuv what I learned here!
Your quite creative with the basic ingredients u use which don't cost a lot of 💰. Nice job 👍
For them, the jar is like a intergenerational starship finally arriving at the habitable exoplanet.
This is amazing :)
Love your videos!
G'day Veronica, very interesting. Love your videos they are always very interesting and informative.
God bless you. Josh.
Ooo it looks great, thanks for making this video, I'm glad you showed the temps in the soil over which times, it's very helpful.😊
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome work! You kept it simple and easy to understand, keep it up your doing a good job!
Love gardening and you show.
This is very different from my experience with compost piles but sounds great considering here in Central Florida our soil is deficient in everything except calcium and silica, it's basically a sandbar sitting on limestone that doesn't hold water very well and water soluble nutrients quickly leave the area where they're available to plants.
Nice!!!... GOOD STUFF...Thanks for sharing...just a thought ...Was wonder if you make it not as deep and some air holes for more circulation.. Maybe 2 bins for that amount of material ??...more airflow as well:)
you are amazing and would like to thank you for the beautiful clips that are very educational! ... and keep it up !! sweet girl
Well, Texas on ward and outward to Adventure great as usual
Hello Veronica. Thanks for your passion towards regenitive nature's for our planet. I try to re use any and everything I can. I have an electrical background with a new passion for gardening / self sustainability living and eating since I had my daughter. I unfortunately learned the GA clay is not so great for growing. The natural wildflowers and weeds grow great. I just started a compost bin but will most likely modify it as I keep learning from you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion. If you are ever soil testing or need a new challenge my daughter and I are wanting to make the best garden ever in Canton, GA.
PS. Possiblity do a video on natural preservation of what we have grown... We got a few strawberries and the deer and squirrel ate just as many and didn't turn any soil with us. Lol thanks!!!
I also wanted your opinion. I have quite a few over grown trees, and more saplings starting. A lot of hickory, poplar, oak, tall hardwoods. The block my east to west sun... I'd it ok to cut or prune trees with the intent of more sun to grow edibles? Or do I need to find ways to hang pots up in the trees? I hate to cut any trees, but I have just over an acre with only a small area that gets only mid day sun. Thanks again
1) clay is honestly a blessing in disguise- the amount of minerals almost available makes a huge difference once you begin adding more organic matter to it (and insulating it with mulch.) so while it can feel like a slog, keep at it and thank your lucky stars you don't have sand! 🤣
2) the question about cutting trees is important in figuring out stewardship for sure. You have to do what supports you and your ecosystem at the same time. That being said, I encourage you to consider working with growing in some of the shade (especially if any is late day) since you're in a hot climate, but of course observe and remove what's necessary for you to grow food. Just don't wipe out all of anything that you can't regrow in a decade or two. Better to work around / with than against.
@@VeronicaFlores thanks, I actually cut back a few leaders and got the sun to shine through much better. I have been mixing in mulch compost for the last 2 years, I'm starting to see a difference in the grass too.
It's interesting, did cut a few trees down to clean up. I wanted to reuse wood. I made some natural fence to help section the garden. The fence came to life and started growing! So did the stump! So I got sun, free wood for fencing, and the trees are still growing. Win, win, win.
:)
Love watching your channel , I hope someday I'll be able and have time to do what you're doing .
You have timeee
I could'nt tell how you used the IMO in jar. Your so fun to listen to and watch.
Thanks! The IMO in the jar got mixed with the water slurry I added to the oats and rice bran.
Hello Veronica, I am from Buenos Aires Argentina, what you show is very interesting, I congratulate you.
You have videos how you do the other components (microorganism and lactobacillus) that you add to the mixture of rice bran and oats.
Thank you very much for your contribution.
Greetings !!
I don't have one on LAB but there are quite a few others who do!
Thank you very much for these insights!
Come to perth Australia , our soil is crap :(
I’m a few days late to this... have you considered making a starter culture? It would be similar to sour dough as you compared it to. I’ve never done what you are demonstrating but I’ve cultured bacteria and yeast in a lab. It’s a very controlled environment but I’m certain the principles would hold. If I were doing this I would have thrown a couple handfuls of your “media” or matrix into those collection jars and shaken it around and left the lid off. The microbes should wake from dormancy after about 24 hours. Sugar may expedite the process and aeration definitely will. And if you could maintain 37 Celsius even better. Then after the culture is in logarithmic phase, mix it into your bulk. It should be fired up and tearing through the media quickly. Based on what I’m seeing. It might benefit from additional moisture. But then again, I’m not entirely sure what your end product should be. I’m guessing you’re making a bulk inoculum of indigenous microbiology?
Exactly- interesting theory, going to chew on this for sure. Thanks!
You are so much more productive than me 😄
You're blowing my mind!
You're awesome!
Thanks for the info. 💚
love this girl... just too scientific for my level of gardening which is at best amateur indoor and outdoor... carry on though...
Good luck!
I have leaves thats been layering for years in my woods, undisturbed. Maybe add this to my worst spots of land. Microorganism transplanting.
I do this. Collect partially composted leaves and twigs from the forest nearby and place clumps here and there in my garden beds to help innoculate the soil with local microbes. I place some in my compost piles too.
Where is this located, meaning what state are you in (what climate type)?
Looking at your channel I noticed several videos using raised beds which don't work very good here in Florida because they dry out so fast and I hope that isn't a requirement. With these IMO cultures assuming there's some in every state / region, what do you notice to be the tolerances they have for temperature swings or is it just irrelevant because each species has adapted to its native climate? Sorry but I'm green as hell and this is day 1 (my introduction to IMO)
Thanks for the information and great video
North Texas in this video, can get very hot and dry so raised beds do require additional moisture as they would there- not a requirement for IMO use at all, can use with in ground plantings as well. Tolerance is adaptive AFAIK- I wouldn't use a collection from more than a few miles away, closer is definitely better.
You say the cutest umm's I've ever heard.
You're awesome
she is beautiful !!!
Can you "innoculate" broad spectrum microorganisms with local soil over the winter and use it in the spring?
@@hodub7984 thank you for the answer.
Amazing
You are great :))
Hi what you have to do with this final product. Please let me know.
Would all this be beneficial if I was growing in 5gal pots, or is mainly just for outdoor grows?
I use it in a lot of pots, just have to lighten the mix post mixing it with compost
Regenerative agriculture! 💓
Looking forward to my kit!
Having studied applied microbiology I have a ton of questions about these types of techniques. Can you recommend one or two good books?
It's a taiter fork
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I guess I need to try this probably next spring
sorry if I missed it but what did you use as a substrate? (what is in the bin before you added your culture?)
She said oats and rice bran. Any place that sells horse feed should have what u need.
Since you're at your dad's now, What is the progress on this IMO project?
Would drilling holes in your plastic bin and lining the bin with a loosely woven cloth or small grid welded wire, so the medium wouldn't spill out but still allow for more heat transfer and air flow, have helped in controlling the temperature?
Relocating? Are you sick of Texas and moving back to California? 😄 If that's the case I can relate. Could only take texas for 6 months before moving back. Yup I'm a puss.😄
Well the bin is technically around to hold water, so it would remove that use case for it... but yeah, I think that might help. Or just having a dedicated space with restricted access.
I'm leaving Texas because I'm running towards something, not away from anything. More details soon.
It would be nice to work and learn from you, i use to be Rhadopseudomonas Sphaeroides in my previouses life
muy bueno. me gusta. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Hi, thanks for this great video. I couldn't understand what that material is that your using. Are those leftovers from grain?
Yes it's from rice (hulls) as well as oats (for animal feed) but can be any grain leftovers really
what if it gets above 120, what then?
When you start climbing higher into “cooking temperatures”, the microbial composition of the pile begins to change as some microbes aren’t heat tolerant (I’m not entirely sure if this is a “death vs dormancy” thing, but the current consensus seems to be death for some potentially beneficial life forms.) Without getting too deep into the thermodynamics of microscopic biology reproduction, you basically start to get “dead zones” that are “cooked” (and in larger scale instances, can catch on fire.) That being said, a ton of people do hot composting in an effort to eradicate pathogens and weed seeds - for this context, the goal is to “grow out” microbial life, so cooking it would be in direct opposition to the point of the work.
Just make sure you keep reporting on youtube when you go out to other locations!
For sure! Excited to see how this all evolves...
Can I use wheat bran for my IMO 3?
I don't see why not - I think rice is recommended because that's what was available when the KNF "recipes" we're written (and also bc it's a good source of silica I think?) but I've heard of people using all sorts of chaff and bran (even dogfood.) Mostly needs a source of carbs it seems.
@@VeronicaFlores I'm going to try using rolled oats from the feed store. HOPE it works!
Potato fork, hillbilly taitter fork
I am British I live in Nysa Poland . There is lots of American UA-camrs but only 2 British that I have seen can I get a bit more Europe on you tube?
You could start uploading? :D
Did you find any more British UA-camrs, Liam? ;)
Veronica are you single, i love farming, i live in the city though