Wow, thank you so much. The best IMO/KNF videos I have seen, by far. I just binged on the whole series. These techniques are key to my startup that will hopefully get off the ground next year. The last thing I need is good clean compost on a decent sized scale (a few yards a month once things get rolling) in the shortest time frame. I'm hoping to take some version of IMO, not sure which would be best and use it maybe with a combo of bokashi to speed along the composting of fresh wood chips. I hesitate to use manure because of the prevalence of herbicides in the area and have already had a problem with contamination. I can get plenty of fresh wood chips but probably not ideal nitrogen content to mix directly with IMO 5. I'm open to the idea of starting a solider fly farm since I already have poultry, just not on a large enough scale (1 acre AG/Res land) to make ample material nor inputs for the larvae to eat in the first place. Not much to go on for cheap/free material in bulk that's unlikely to be contaminated so I'm going to have to make to chips work. Maybe a combination of some sort? Maybe add in a quick, dense crop like sunn hemp? Any ideas? Side note: Please share some of that bio-knowledge I can tell you have ready to spill out, I was excited to see the screenshot of the microscope slide, I thought there would be some in the videos. Thanks again, keep up the excellent work.
+sspike631 Super cool to hear all that you are hoping and planning to do! IMO3 or 4 would be awesome for helping decompose wood chips. Bokashi might help, but is far better for dealing with nitrogen or applying directly into an agricultural operation as it is light the on fungi you will need to break down the chips... So for your described operation I would skip Bokashi (though its is cool stuff). Any green waste can serve as a 'green manure' for your compost, it is all dependent on your ratios of material. If you are using low nitrogen green waste then you might use something like 50% green 50% wood for a static pile (one you set and forget). If you are using a high nitrogen green waste like sun hemp then you might increase that to 30% green 70% wood for a static pile (no turn). If you plan to turn daily then you can lower the wood chips and increase the green. Ealine Ingham has some good information on these ratios I am referring to. Did that answer your question. Let me know if it didn't and I can try to help. BTW chicken coop floor clean out can be your high nitrogen material. poop + wood chips + IMO = some great soil amendment. Keep up the good work man!
Very helpful, thank you for replying. I am currently cultivating IMO 1 and plan to make LIMO from IMO 2 and apply it to the chips after I run them back through a chipper/shredder with some nitrogen material. LIMO would be quicker and easier for me to produce and apply, I'm just not certain of its effectiveness compared to IMO 3/4? I didn't know about the Bacterial/Fungal ratio and how it impacts different ecosystems, only that trees need beneficial fungi, microbes for veggies and that fungus breaks down cellulose. I need to look into this way more as I have just scratched the surface. Particularly I am wondering about this ratio and where I take my IMO samples from. If I sample from a mature forest then I should be getting about 1:10 ratio which would be great for trees, either growing or decomposing them but not so much for a veggie garden. Does this mean I should have separate samplings (not intended for the composting operation) from a less developed biosphere closer to 1:1 if I intend to use the final products (sos,imo,etc..) in a garden setting? Basically, How can I balance the fungal dominated compost that I will end up with so it's more hospitable to veggies and maintain that over time? I found copies of Master Cho's Recipe Book and a ton of repeat info on the web, do you know of a good online source that lays out a good bit of KNF all in one? I have already been to NaturalFarmingHawaii.net and a few others. I am very interested in the what, why and how; rather than just copying processes. I will even take scholarly sources if you have them. Thanks again. Keep up the videos, keep changing the world. -Mark
My friend you are accelerating me back to the farming way of life, I lived and worked on a few natural farms in Korea but haven't been able to access all this information you are putting up it's truly great! will you make a video about making humic acid ?
Nice videos. Thank you. You, really, should check your posture, while mixing all that material. Try bending your knees, instead of your back. That bent back is a killer...
Hi Chris, I am in charge of an organic community garden. We have a big mosaic virus issue which is infecting our beautiful zucchinis, squashes, cucumbers and tomatoes. I am having problems finding solutions to this virus. I'm wondering if making the IMOs will fend off this nasty virus. I already made FFJ w sweet potato vines! Great job on your videos - clear and easy to understand!!!
+Julia Jackson awesome to hear about your garden :) I have seen these viruses completely knocked out with one application of foliar liquid IMO. You could apply solid IMO at planting and it would prevent this... but at this point I think you need foliar. You can make liquid IMO like I show in my video on liquid imo, but you can shave some time ( cheat ) by just using strait forest leaf mold as the inoculant ( in place of 'IMO' though that is what leaf mold from your area is). So brew some up and call me in the morning ;) Make sure to apply in the late afternoon.
Exceland vedioes by Cris Trump. I am 68 OLD from INDIA AND WAS IN SEARCH OF A PACKAGE ON NATURAL FARMIMG. I AM WATCHING ALL OF YOUR VEDIOES AND PREPARED ALL INGRADIENTS EXCEPT IMO 1.I FAILED IN FOR ATEMPT IN MAKING IMO 1. ALL GONE GREEN POWDERY SUBSTANCE REASON I DO NOT KNOW ONE WAS LITTLE GOOD IN WHITCH WAS WHITE 35 TO 40 PERCENT. THAN I BROUGHT A VERY GOOD COMPOST from forest away from my PLACe IN A PLASTIC BUCKET AND A PLASTIC MUG CONTANING HARD COOkED RICE. ON 9TH DAY ALL WHITE MICHROOGANISM APPEARED AND I HARVESTED MADE IMO2. THE TEMRATURE DURING FAILURE WAS VERY LOW and time taken nearly two weeks. PL ADVICE ME SHOUGHT I USE REST ONE OR DISCARD THE GREEN ONE. I WHANT TO INREACH MY DECOMPOSTED COW MANURE IN JUN WHEN THE TEMPRATURE REACHES UPTO 47 c or 116 f. Please render your valuable advice. Hope for early response.
Thanks. Very clear instructions. Are you going to make videos on the other knf inputs? I can't wait to see how you do OHN. I find it difficult. I have done most of it and finishing liquorice. I am curious if you do it differently. Thanks again.
Chris Trump you likely already have but have you read Radical Mycology by Peter McCoy - it connects to what you are doing, I think you'd love it, and you could expand what you are doing as well I'd wager with what Peter has compiled. It's the most thorough book on mycology available.
Hi Chris. Thanks for sharing ur such a great ideas with us. I would like to ask you some more helps. Can u make a video about how to make "Effective Beneficial Microorganism" I'll be appreciated for it!
I am an agronomic soil scientist. A word of caution about aqueous vegetative extracts "compost tea". First: the finish extract contains very little, if any, nutrient value in lab analysis. When compared to groups receiving an equal amount of water on the same schedule the two groups are indistinguishable. Secondly: these malto-lactic fermented solutions can be dangerous. E. coli, salmonella and even cholera have been incubated this way with deadly consequences in Korea and Taiwan.
Aloha Tea Vbh, it isn’t a matter of one being “better” it is more a question of what do you need for what you are growing. IMO5 is just IMO4+a high nitrogen. IMO5 is very helpful if you are looking to prepare you land for a plant with a significant nitrogen demand, like a tomato or a corn. They are tools, one day you need a hammer another day you need a sledgehammer, one isn’t better :) I hope that helps! Let me know if that answers your question :)
Have you tried owning up a larger center area to mix the water so it's like a donut shape. Then push the top layer in mix then push in more. Like when making homemade pasta? Seems like ur struggling more than u should.
+Sushil Wankar I don't know what "RO water" is, but yes you can emulate sea water by dissolving approximately 35 grams of sea salt per liter of water or approximately 4 oz. of sea salt per gallon of water.
+J sorry I missed your original comment. Yes it is one of the reasons of using sea water, there are some great microbes in the ocean. However, if I read your comment correctly you asked what to do if you can't get sea water... you don't need RO water though, just no chlorine or chloramine. If you can't get sea water then dissolve 1gram sea salt per 1 liter and use that as your 'sea water'. The sea water also is used by the IMO to do their processes and multiply, so still do this step even if you have to 'make you own sea water'. Let me know how you do :)
Well the original comment wasnt made by me, so its alright :P As for my actual question, thanks! This was what I wanted to know: "sea water is used by the IMO to do their processes and multiply". In my quest to go away from bottle nutrients I've come to the understanding that salts were evil. For now I'm still in the process of learning the basics, just playing around using simple fpj/faa as foliar/drench. And the only MO I've are LAB. More of a notill garden than a pure knf. So I'm trying to get it all straight to go full Cho for the summer crop.
J awesome man. Keep asking questions :) and great job getting the FPJ & FAA going. Fermented sea Water = L.A.B. 1:1000, FPJ 1:500, SW 1:30 mix ingredients and leave breathable for 24 hours, then apply foliar or drench.
+Chetan panja yes, usually only 10% if you are making IMO5 with manure. If you are making it with fish waste you can probably use a little bit more. Maybe 20-30%, but be careful to not over do it.
+Robert Turner you can try. Be careful though this is most likely going to be a high nitrogen material, it will get funky in water if left very long or without oxygen. If you apply it to the soil it is a rate between 330-600lb per acre.
Dude, did you watch the video at all, lol? How are you going to put 600lbs of dirt in a sprayer and apply that to your plants?! If you figure that out, let me know. Cheers.
+juan adobo I have not measured the PH of my IMO5. I think it may be affected by the nitrogen source you choose. I have found that our farm land has become very well balanced since we started stewarding the microbial life.
These videos are still reaching people 🤝 got some imo4 cooking right now and 2 collection boxes in the forest. Im surrounded by jars 😂
It's 4am right now and I've spent my entire night learning from you brotha. I can't thank you enough for sharing the knowledge 🤘🏽
+Nico Gorham hahaha, awesome man, there is more to come. Go give some of this a try :)
@@biomei.solutions Where do you get your liquid humic acid? Can you mix dry humic acid with water first? Or just use dry weight?
So what you do is add 1 part dry humid to 10 parts vinegar for 7days. Then strain it. This is now water soluble
coffee grounds seem like they would work as well. high nitrogen and such. fungi love coffee grounds.
Wow, thank you so much. The best IMO/KNF videos I have seen, by far. I just binged on the whole series. These techniques are key to my startup that will hopefully get off the ground next year. The last thing I need is good clean compost on a decent sized scale (a few yards a month once things get rolling) in the shortest time frame. I'm hoping to take some version of IMO, not sure which would be best and use it maybe with a combo of bokashi to speed along the composting of fresh wood chips. I hesitate to use manure because of the prevalence of herbicides in the area and have already had a problem with contamination. I can get plenty of fresh wood chips but probably not ideal nitrogen content to mix directly with IMO 5. I'm open to the idea of starting a solider fly farm since I already have poultry, just not on a large enough scale (1 acre AG/Res land) to make ample material nor inputs for the larvae to eat in the first place. Not much to go on for cheap/free material in bulk that's unlikely to be contaminated so I'm going to have to make to chips work. Maybe a combination of some sort? Maybe add in a quick, dense crop like sunn hemp? Any ideas? Side note: Please share some of that bio-knowledge I can tell you have ready to spill out, I was excited to see the screenshot of the microscope slide, I thought there would be some in the videos. Thanks again, keep up the excellent work.
+sspike631 Super cool to hear all that you are hoping and planning to do! IMO3 or 4 would be awesome for helping decompose wood chips. Bokashi might help, but is far better for dealing with nitrogen or applying directly into an agricultural operation as it is light the on fungi you will need to break down the chips... So for your described operation I would skip Bokashi (though its is cool stuff). Any green waste can serve as a 'green manure' for your compost, it is all dependent on your ratios of material. If you are using low nitrogen green waste then you might use something like 50% green 50% wood for a static pile (one you set and forget). If you are using a high nitrogen green waste like sun hemp then you might increase that to 30% green 70% wood for a static pile (no turn). If you plan to turn daily then you can lower the wood chips and increase the green. Ealine Ingham has some good information on these ratios I am referring to. Did that answer your question. Let me know if it didn't and I can try to help. BTW chicken coop floor clean out can be your high nitrogen material. poop + wood chips + IMO = some great soil amendment.
Keep up the good work man!
Very helpful, thank you for replying. I am currently cultivating IMO 1 and plan to make LIMO from IMO 2 and apply it to the chips after I run them back through a chipper/shredder with some nitrogen material. LIMO would be quicker and easier for me to produce and apply, I'm just not certain of its effectiveness compared to IMO 3/4? I didn't know about the Bacterial/Fungal ratio and how it impacts different ecosystems, only that trees need beneficial fungi, microbes for veggies and that fungus breaks down cellulose. I need to look into this way more as I have just scratched the surface. Particularly I am wondering about this ratio and where I take my IMO samples from. If I sample from a mature forest then I should be getting about 1:10 ratio which would be great for trees, either growing or decomposing them but not so much for a veggie garden. Does this mean I should have separate samplings (not intended for the composting operation) from a less developed biosphere closer to 1:1 if I intend to use the final products (sos,imo,etc..) in a garden setting? Basically, How can I balance the fungal dominated compost that I will end up with so it's more hospitable to veggies and maintain that over time? I found copies of Master Cho's Recipe Book and a ton of repeat info on the web, do you know of a good online source that lays out a good bit of KNF all in one? I have already been to NaturalFarmingHawaii.net and a few others. I am very interested in the what, why and how; rather than just copying processes. I will even take scholarly sources if you have them.
Thanks again. Keep up the videos, keep changing the world. -Mark
My friend you are accelerating me back to the farming way of life, I lived and worked on a few natural farms in Korea but haven't been able to access all this information you are putting up it's truly great!
will you make a video about making humic acid ?
Id like a Humic acid tutorial as well!
Me too
i cant believe you are shoveling in sandals. i've learned my lessons.
Really inspiring, Chris! I love watching how you do your stuff. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I'm glad to know of you!
Nice videos. Thank you.
You, really, should check your posture, while mixing all that material. Try bending your knees, instead of your back. That bent back is a killer...
Thanks Chris this video series is the best guide to knf I've seen. I'm going to try Biochar and vermicompost do you think this will work for imo5 ?
Thanks Ben! Those will definitely work :)
Hi Chris, I am in charge of an organic community garden. We have a big mosaic virus issue which is infecting our beautiful zucchinis, squashes, cucumbers and tomatoes. I am having problems finding solutions to this virus. I'm wondering if making the IMOs will fend off this nasty virus.
I already made FFJ w sweet potato vines!
Great job on your videos - clear and easy to understand!!!
+Julia Jackson awesome to hear about your garden :) I have seen these viruses completely knocked out with one application of foliar liquid IMO. You could apply solid IMO at planting and it would prevent this... but at this point I think you need foliar. You can make liquid IMO like I show in my video on liquid imo, but you can shave some time ( cheat ) by just using strait forest leaf mold as the inoculant ( in place of 'IMO' though that is what leaf mold from your area is). So brew some up and call me in the morning ;) Make sure to apply in the late afternoon.
Exceland vedioes by Cris Trump. I am 68 OLD from INDIA AND WAS IN SEARCH OF A PACKAGE ON NATURAL FARMIMG. I AM WATCHING ALL OF YOUR VEDIOES AND PREPARED ALL INGRADIENTS EXCEPT IMO 1.I FAILED IN FOR ATEMPT IN MAKING IMO 1. ALL GONE GREEN POWDERY SUBSTANCE REASON I DO NOT KNOW ONE WAS LITTLE GOOD IN WHITCH WAS WHITE 35 TO 40 PERCENT. THAN I BROUGHT A VERY GOOD COMPOST from forest away from my PLACe IN A PLASTIC BUCKET AND A PLASTIC MUG CONTANING HARD COOkED RICE. ON 9TH DAY ALL WHITE MICHROOGANISM APPEARED AND I HARVESTED MADE IMO2. THE TEMRATURE DURING FAILURE WAS VERY LOW and time taken nearly two weeks. PL ADVICE ME SHOUGHT I USE REST ONE OR DISCARD THE GREEN ONE. I WHANT TO INREACH MY DECOMPOSTED COW MANURE IN JUN WHEN THE TEMPRATURE REACHES UPTO 47 c or 116 f. Please render your valuable advice. Hope for early response.
Sometimes you say 1 gram/litre of water and other times you say approx 35 grams/litre of water. How much sea salt should I actually use?
Can you store IMO 3,4,5 in a container for later use and if so, how long? Thx
Was wondrring same thing. Also add IMO 2 as well.
Will bokashi be good after it’s been fermented?
i would use the cement mixer to do this and save my back
chris can i use chicken manure for this? how long can you store IMO5? how to get humic acid?
Great video series! Just a suggestion: post the recipe into the video description, including what your acronyms mean (like OHN).
+David N. Hale thank you for the encouragement! That is a really good suggestion, I will do exactly that.
Thanks. Very clear instructions. Are you going to make videos on the other knf inputs? I can't wait to see how you do OHN. I find it difficult. I have done most of it and finishing liquorice. I am curious if you do it differently. Thanks again.
Thank you! I will share an OHN video next week :) watch some of the other videos. Don't forget to share it
I've watched them all. Thank you!
This is awesome!
+Matt Powers glad you like it man :) It truly does make some incredible quality material :)
Chris Trump you likely already have but have you read Radical Mycology by Peter McCoy - it connects to what you are doing, I think you'd love it, and you could expand what you are doing as well I'd wager with what Peter has compiled. It's the most thorough book on mycology available.
hi 🖐can each step be applied to your soil or u have to complete all steps?
how to get humic acid?
Hi Chris
can I use brewers spelt for the IMO5 ???
Hi Chris. Thanks for sharing ur such a great ideas with us.
I would like to ask you some more helps.
Can u make a video about how to make "Effective Beneficial Microorganism"
I'll be appreciated for it!
Hi Chris! Where can i find ressources on how to make the humic acid input?
Great video, can IMO5 made with chicken manure be used for sweet corn production?
If 8 live by the sea could I use that please
I am an agronomic soil scientist. A word of caution about aqueous vegetative extracts "compost tea". First: the finish extract contains very little, if any, nutrient value in lab analysis. When compared to groups receiving an equal amount of water on the same schedule the two groups are indistinguishable. Secondly: these malto-lactic fermented solutions can be dangerous. E. coli, salmonella and even cholera have been incubated this way with deadly consequences in Korea and Taiwan.
Thank you so much.
+havfaith S. My pleasure :)
whats is better measure by volume or weight?
Hi Chris, really thanks for this video but I've just wondering what about Rats and Ants during this process, how can we avoid those?
Which is better IMO4 or IMO5?
Aloha Tea Vbh, it isn’t a matter of one being “better” it is more a question of what do you need for what you are growing. IMO5 is just IMO4+a high nitrogen. IMO5 is very helpful if you are looking to prepare you land for a plant with a significant nitrogen demand, like a tomato or a corn. They are tools, one day you need a hammer another day you need a sledgehammer, one isn’t better :) I hope that helps! Let me know if that answers your question :)
Have you tried owning up a larger center area to mix the water so it's like a donut shape. Then push the top layer in mix then push in more. Like when making homemade pasta? Seems like ur struggling more than u should.
:) make it that way, then let me know. I should just be in better shape is all :)
if i cannot get sea water can i use sea salt dissolved in RO water? if yes what is dilution rate. Thank you
+Sushil Wankar I don't know what "RO water" is, but yes you can emulate sea water by dissolving approximately 35 grams of sea salt per liter of water or approximately 4 oz. of sea salt per gallon of water.
RO is Reverse Osmosis water. And... I thought the point of using sea water was to inoculate with microbes from the sea?
Great videos!
+J sorry I missed your original comment. Yes it is one of the reasons of using sea water, there are some great microbes in the ocean. However, if I read your comment correctly you asked what to do if you can't get sea water... you don't need RO water though, just no chlorine or chloramine. If you can't get sea water then dissolve 1gram sea salt per 1 liter and use that as your 'sea water'. The sea water also is used by the IMO to do their processes and multiply, so still do this step even if you have to 'make you own sea water'.
Let me know how you do :)
Well the original comment wasnt made by me, so its alright :P
As for my actual question, thanks! This was what I wanted to know: "sea water is used by the IMO to do their processes and multiply". In my quest to go away from bottle nutrients I've come to the understanding that salts were evil.
For now I'm still in the process of learning the basics, just playing around using simple fpj/faa as foliar/drench. And the only MO I've are LAB. More of a notill garden than a pure knf.
So I'm trying to get it all straight to go full Cho for the summer crop.
J awesome man. Keep asking questions :) and great job getting the FPJ & FAA going. Fermented sea Water = L.A.B. 1:1000, FPJ 1:500, SW 1:30 mix ingredients and leave breathable for 24 hours, then apply foliar or drench.
What is the purpose of the sea water?
Can i use this IMO5 as protein source for chicken feed ?
+Chetan panja yes, usually only 10% if you are making IMO5 with manure. If you are making it with fish waste you can probably use a little bit more. Maybe 20-30%, but be careful to not over do it.
Can you dissolve this in water and spray it on? Or is this a true soil based amendment?
+Robert Turner you can try. Be careful though this is most likely going to be a high nitrogen material, it will get funky in water if left very long or without oxygen. If you apply it to the soil it is a rate between 330-600lb per acre.
Dude, did you watch the video at all, lol? How are you going to put 600lbs of dirt in a sprayer and apply that to your plants?! If you figure that out, let me know. Cheers.
Doesnt the salt in sea water kill the micro organisms?
Might be a stupid question, but what is the application volume of IMO5 per cacao tree as fertilizer, for example ?
+Trihernvilla Corp I would go for 600lbs/acre IMO5 as fertilizer. But you could double or half that depending on your tree's needs.
+Trihernvilla Corp Not a dumb question! :) Keep up the good work
Thanks Chris, advice much appreciated. Will apply accordingly.
Can we not use a cement mixer for this?
Can
I'm wondering, IMO 4 is made of what components? I only learned IMO 5 and I do not have idea that IMO 4 does exist. Thank you.
+Freddie,Jr. Barcelenia you are welcome :) I have many recipes in video form. Did you watch all the IMO1-4?
Everything just clicked. 🤯
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have you tried measuring your IMO5 PH level? If you did,could you tell us the PH level of your IMO5?
+juan adobo I have not measured the PH of my IMO5. I think it may be affected by the nitrogen source you choose. I have found that our farm land has become very well balanced since we started stewarding the microbial life.
The maggots exrete amonia!
Can I use cow dung for this ?
+Chetan panja yes :)
u could get the same info into a 30 second video
It's look like bokashi