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As kids at school we’d play this in the middle of the winter, snowing, raining on a muddy field. It was great, loved it.
Loved it especially playing in a northern English climate, not sure the concussion suffered was worth it..
That wait to get outside and stop playing tag rugby was so worth the wait! I remember a broken collarbone and nose in the same match once. Our school never even had a team or posts, but that was in Leicester and in the prime of the Tigers stranglehold of the Premiership.
I loved playing. Long list of injuries but it's an infectious game when you play, Sun, rain wind or snow we played. Amazing game
@@patkins8319 hear hear
Playing on jagged frozen mud made us reluctant to go for a tackle though.
I've learnt my one new thing for the day - the phrase 'built like a brick shithouse' is transatlantic!
I've heard Americans say "built like a brick house" which means someone felt obliged to clean it up and completely lost the point.
Most housing in UK cities didn't have indoor sanitation until the mid 20th century. They had a brick built outside toilet in the yard or at the end of the street, sometimes shared between neighbours. Hence the term 'brick shithouse'.
Omg I know I thought it was just a British thing love it
I'm a Aussie..I'm 49...I've known this saying since a kid
@@Adrian-ey5xp thats cos you get a lot of our english comedy i guess?
Not wearing a helmet means they try to avoid head clashes, where as NFL players have a false sense of security wearing a helmet and actually hit other players with their head.
Where I'm from, we tackle leading with our forehead. I believe my neighbouring island brothers also do the same🤔 I'm from Fiji btw😊
@@thebeat2370 every time a Fijian is born the doctor says "where the fuck did he get that rugby ball?".
However rugby, of both codes is starting to have its own revelations RE: head trauma. Case in point is Rob Burrows of Leeds fame.
@@viralvd77 😂😂😂 good one👌
@@viralvd77 LMAO
Two words for you mate “Jonah Lomu”. He was amazing mate, stats, 6 foot 5 inch tall, 260lbs and 100m in 10.8 seconds. Juggernaut with a jet engine!!!!!
Don’t know much about the NFL, but from a guy who’s played rugby since I was 5 in England, you are taught to tackle properly and safely from day 1. This is part of the reason why these guys can get hit 40 times a game with no “pads” and complete the 80 mins with no injuries repeatedly.
exactly the same here
100% agree, its all about protecting yourself and your opponent. Head and body positioning for you, taking the opponent safely and putting him down safely. Although people do forget that it is still a very dangerous game played at super fast speed, one of my team mates has had 3 vertebrae dislodged after a perfect tackle and we are now seeing ex-pros suing the rugby bodies for things such as dementia and other long term health issues.
And you will all applaud each other off the pitch and buy your oppo a pint x
Yea that's the issue with NFL..... They wear all the padding and tackle like dumbasses. With Rugby you tackle properly. There are still injuries, but no one cries about brain injuries because rugby players are stupid enough to literally use their head like a battering ram.... I like NFL, but I'd pick rugby anyway
@@jlarosa888 err, actually Rugby is currently in a real bind about the effects of head injuries and long term damage.
the saying is that “Football [soccer] is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, and rugger [Rugby named after the school & town] is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen." !
dang beat me to it
And who says this? In 50 years on the planet lining in England I’ve never heard this saying!
@@tsrgoinc ive heard that and ive only been here 39 years.
@@tsrgoinc Obviously not a Gentleman then :-)
@@tsrgoinc I'm 34 y/o, this saying has been around since I got into Rugby as a kid.
"Cricket is a game for gentlemen played by gentlemen,
Football is a game for gentlemen played by hooligans,
Rugby Union is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen,
And Rugby League is a game for hooligans played by hooligans"
Soccer - trying to convince the ref your injured
Rugby - Trying to convince the ref your 'not' injured
I remember back in the day, I was playing for my school football team( soccer to Americans), I was in a challenge and twisted my knee cap, I argued with the ref that I was ok. He said carry on, as soon as I tried to stand I fell into the floor. Football(soccer) hasn't always been for pussies.
Football - *Trying to to convince the ref you were fouled.
Blood streaming from a cut above his eye ‘I’m fine Sir’.
@@masonbell8840 you should Google Terry Butcher, he's an English footballer.
Foot ball, a game for violent drunk fans and weak men. Rugby a game for strong blokes and drunk gentle man.
was in South Africa and the Rugby World Cup was there. Stayed in the same hotel as the NZ 'All Blacks'. 6 players got in the elevator (1600lb limit) and the 'OVERLOAD' alarm went off. Unbelievable. They were huge..
Hahahaha.
And then after eighty minutes of trying to kill each other, they all shake hands and clap each other into the dressing rooms.
You mean clap cheeks with each other haha
And have a beer together after the game. I once saw two props get red carded for beating the shit out of each other sitting in the bar together afterwards completely ratarsed comparing punches. Happy days.
It's nice that an American is willingly learning English and Irish sports and comedy and actually liking it.. fair play dude ✌🇮🇪🇬🇧😎😎
Where's the Irish sport? Rugby was invented in Britain
Rugby is not an English sport !! The game is played in all 4 nations.
@@johnnicolson9151 rugby was invented in England
@@chrisklitou7573 he wasn't on about rugby
Rugby was first at RUGBY SCHOOL in England. www.rugbyschool.co.uk/about/history/
The Irish and pretty much everyone else started to play it a few decades later. History isn't on your side with this one
American football players always think they’re hard. Until they watch rugby.
Rugby players are generally the fittest and strongest sportsmen of ANY sport when theyve had competitions. But the tackling really should be below the waist; that’s what we were always taught
@@izziebon its easy to say but in the speed of the game its hard, you have to be super aware at all times..
Both sports are tough as hell. The stop-start pace in NFL actually leads to more powerful hits, but players just take fewer of them during the course of a game. In union, the hits come thick and fast for eighty minutes - endurance is key here. I much preferred rugby to play - it's a more free-flowing game when played the right way. But I respect both sports.
@@davesmith826 Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t fancy being on the receiving end of some of the big hits I’ve seen in American Football. Pads or not. But that’s precisely why I feel Rugby players are harder - they hit each other without any protection what so ever.
I have been saying that for years. NFL players are a bunch of girls in plastic riot gear. Rugby is for real men
I'm a Brit, we like to think of rugby as a "real mans" sport, but take a look at Australian rules football. That's another level
no way AFL is soft
Rugby has more contact tbh
Probably how rugby started. Someone picked the ball up and ran. Australia decided to integrate the two games.
@@iriscollins7583 yeah Aussie rules is much more similar to the first football codes in a lot of ways
I've watched aussie rules and there seems to be hardly any physical contact.
An American watching rugby for the first time? gonna be good for sure :)
Yup
I recomend watching international. The best is the 6 nations
@@benmatthews9176 Followed by a world cup featuring all the Six Nations, the All Blacks, the Aussies and the South Africans. The Six Nations is due very soon. KIck off the weekend of 6-7 February. Yay!
@@benmatthews9176 Got peacock premium the nbc streaming service specifically for that reason
@@TheEclecticBeard If you wanna watch brutal rugby. 90s and early 00's england vs nz or aus.
Always brutal. Always bloddy, Always a messy game and ALWAYS Seriously high tackels
Breaking a guy’s ribs in a tackle, ok, breaking a skull, frowned upon.
A mild concussion is excusable. But going for the ribs is definitely not playing fair
@@richieb7692 how do you mean?
@@ejsmith9194
Taking someone out of the game by deliberately going for the ribs, is totally unsporting.
Broken or cracked ribs can stop you from even training for weeks.
Could even screw up your season of you're on an international side
@@richieb7692 no, i mean what tackle are you refferring to? Any basic tackle that hits the ribs? Or an illegal play where the ribs are contacted?
@@richieb7692 because tackling somebody in the midsection is a textbook tackle. If they happen to break a rib than thats bad luck. It'd be like saying you can't tackle somebody anywhere as they may break that part of their body. Only things that are illegal or dirty tackles are going for the head/neck region or diving low below the knees from front on. Also not wrapping or attempting to wrap your arms is deemed illegal also dumping a player by lifting their legs over their torso is dangerous. Everything else goes.
Back in the 80s when I was a schoolboy rugby player the NFL started to be shown on UK TV. We would all just sit there taking the piss out of your shoulder pads and motorcycle helmets and wondering why a guy named The Refrigerator needed to wear protection.
"Hits" are an incidental ingredient of rugby. At its best, the game involves passing the ball until you see a gap in the opposition. That's the skill of it; that's the poetry of it. Only people unfamiliar with the game concentrate on hits and injuries. Those are certainly present, but it's not what you watch the game for.
I think you watch the game for the skill and the hits. It's why it's such an exciting sport to watch
In the UK many kids start rugby at aged 4 or 5 by the time they leave school at 16 most would have been playing for 12 years. some of the professorial players could have been playing for at least 20 years.
@Cara Salusc with the 4 and 5 year olds its just ball handling skills and some no contact games with the emphasis on having fun Like Matty says no contact tackling until 7/8, the local club starts letting have full contact tackling at aged 11/12
Yeah that's right, I've been playing rugby for most of my life, it's a quality game to watch and play
@Cara Salusc wow, quite an injury, the worst i have had is the classic broken fingers, broke my collar bone and tore most of the ligaments in my elbow. still, nothing beats a good game of rugby
Reminds me of school, freezing cold, often in rain and sleet, getting battered, and it hurts way more when you're freezing. 'Makes a man of you', apparently.
I went home once with a black eye and my mum freaked, was convinced I was being bullied and raged at the school. She wouldn't believe it was from Rugby.
Check out The All Blacks (New Zealand) Haka, they do it before every game, it's fierce and very intimidating for the opposition.
Not that intimidating these days. Opposition players just wait till they've finished their funny little dance. The All Blacks aren't the force they once were
Our teacher told us that if she could stab her house key into the ground then the ground was soft enough to play on.
I remember when I was 6 having cut my leg open on broken ice in training on a Sunday morning 😂
:D
"It happens...." Forrest Gump. In other words, manup!
Actually they do have padding. They are wearing clothes.
😆
🤣😂🤣😂
The 'Six Nations' international rugby tournament starts in February, you might be able to use a VPN to get the coverage live in the US (No crowds with Covid but still good fun)
The crowd atmosphere adds so much to it, and raises the players game...all that singing..goose bumps!
The beauty of rugby is this: everyone plays. For American Football fans, imagine your quarterback or kicker being expected tackle linebackers, for examples of this check out Faf de Klerk Giant Slayer. Also remember that this game is very popular in both France and Italy - countries that certain people call cowards.
@@yosserc Why English? isn't that being insulting, patronising and offensive as well as racist?
@@yosserc imagine the irony
Yosserc Some Americans call France and Italy cowards.
Got to remember these guys are like 18,19 even 20 stone of muscle. They are huge in real life.
Martin Johnson, the England rugby legend, was 6'7 and almost 19st at his peak. Alun Wyn Jones is 6'6 and 19 stone.
@@SaintPhoenixx yeh they are beasts lol. You only realise when they stand next to a normal size person. The impact of a tackle would break my body 😂
@@Flypidge Perfect case is Anthony Watson, looks utterly tiny next to the others on the pitch, is 6'2 and yet falls into the heavy weight boxer category for boxing... Hard men the lot of them.
@@LuE87 yes mate I agree, you have to be a different breed to play rugby lol.
I remember seeing Lomu, Fitzpatrick etc coming into my restaurant in Auckland after a game. It was like a dozen aliens had just turned up. No necks on any of them.
Concussion is currently a big issue in Rugby. There are now tighter rules on high tackles, you can't hit players who are in the air and you can't shoulder charge, you must wrap your arms. The game has introduced concussion tests during games and players who fail those tests must be substitited (Head injury assessments) More players are wearing scrum caps (soft padded headgear).
And rugby players are always some of the nicest chaps you can hope to meet too....
Rugby Players are at it for 80 minutes straight. The average amount of "Game time" in a 3 hour NFL match is 10 minutes. I think that puts into perspective how tough Rugby actually is.
Actually if you use a stop watch and stop it every time the ball goes dead and the official clock is still running, you will see actual play does not last longer than 35 minutes max. Game playing time can be from 28 mins to 35 and the average is about 31mins 28 seconds.
@@RugbyMatters Yes, but rugby play time still wipes the floor with the NFL, not forgetting you have offensive and defensive teams for NFL so the play time is not even what a single player plays for.
Spot on.
Dude the 6 nations is about to begin in the uk, get into it, wicked laugh. I’m a former rugby prop, so was at the front of the scrum and would happily explain a few things to help get you into it. The head is a no no area in rugby too but there are many nuanced rules from the old days when I played but essentially they’ve tried to make it a little safer whilst keeping the ethos of the old style rules. Believe it or not, it’s def safer now than used to be, saying that, I walk with a stick and can’t feel my legs anymore and one is paralysed after 4 serious spinal operations, so there are definite drawbacks lol. No complaints tho, best game in the world. Im welsh, so we’re the red ones in the uk, and arguably the most passionate and flamboyant through history: cue the English moans lol. All good fun and we have a beer afterwards. Wanna watch a game with me and I describe the rules as we go, it’d be a pleasure, cbear
Aye. Auld enough that when I played the ball had to be played with a foot from a ruck. I still have scars on my back and a hip and knee that are great at forecasting a change in weather. Many of my rugby heros have names you'd recognise... Williams, Edwards, Bennet,Quinnell...
Englishman here.. and all i can say to that is ppffffttttt in your DREAMS welshy lol
@@cancer_sucks ahh man, you guys are so precious you need to use the British national anthem to get you fired up, where is your hope and glory? Passion and flamboyance? Do me a favour Saes, we invented it ;)
Not the game, sadly! We have to credit our neighbours with that! Fair dooos. Wasn’t my meaning.
I came out late for our games lesson once when at school and so the teacher put me on the rugby field instead of my usual football field. Not knowing any rules, I got the ball, ran as fast as I could, got clattered by a much taller lad called Darren Butterfield, with my nose bleeding I vociferously invited him off the field of play for a fight. The teacher came over, gave me some hassle for causing hassle and sent me back into the changing rooms. I was never late out for games lesson again.... Lesson learned... Lol. Great video Mr Beard. Thanks.
Was playing rugby 🏉 from the age of 11at my school in the 70s loved every minute
Going back to the school days we played Rugby or Field Hockey with zero padding...A lot of injured/Bloodied kids but it was fun,We just didn’t care that much lol
Running right over a tackler when you have the ball is called a ''Tongan sidestep'' hehe.
There are two kinds of rugby Mr Beard. One version called 'League', the other called 'Union'. Was originally because of an argument between the North and South (where have you heard that before. Lol) in England.
The point of no helmets makes players avoid the head impacts.
its also against th rules ;)
the point of helmets in NFL is to allow bashing of heads in order to understand why they call it football... and still, no one does...
Something to take in mind with the hits is how in rugby the large majority of tackles are to the lower body or thighs
That accent is bloody glorious! Thanks for the content my mate and stay safe, from England!
I remember one time we were playing rugby in high school and my mate Dan had one guy holding each of his legs, two people on his back, and one person trying to push him back, and he just kept walking, our team didn't even help because he was just walking it in for a try, even as more people tried to jump on him. We couldn't even se him beneath the bodies, it was just a moving pile of 13 year olds.
Love this. I have one great memory of playing Rugby at my UK school; I watched the Superbowl the night before. We were practising Tackles, All I had in my mind was 'im gonna flatten everybody NFL style!'
Slipped on my run-up, hit my target lower than expected, he ended up falling, full-weight, Ass-first on top of my head, knocking me out cold.
I got to go home from school from being knocked out, my friend (the target) was allowed home from a leg injury.
You should also check out some of the best skills and footwork in rugby. While it is a brutal game it is also a beautiful game and has some amazing skill. Physically it’s like Football but the skill set needed is almost more akin to basketball with all the no look passing and running support lines. It’s a truly great sport to watch.
The US now has a League (Major League Rugby) it’s 4th season starts in March. There’s 14 teams currently including a Team in Atlanta and a team in New Orleans
lol 'Brick shit house' we say that in scotland too! had me in stitches brilliant!
we say it here in nz as well
Played rugby in my youth and when I see American football players covered in pads it always makes me smile.
"They are not wearing any pads". Of course they are, many of them will have gum shields in , which is all you need.
Some might tape their ears down too
MR EB, thank you for covering one of our national sports, great review mate🏴👍🍻🍻
Quite a few of these, ahem, ‘tackles’ are illegal. Somewhat misleading to those not familiar with rugby
i'd say 95% of these are legal tbh
Definitely a few borderline shoulder charges.
Most of these are legal
A few of them a bit high maybe?
It depends on when they happened only recently would alot of these be deemed as high and as for the "shoulder tackles" in all of them bar maybe one from owen are in the process of wrapping
Tackle above the knees, below the shoulders, and wrap up, I played rugby in America for highschool and college and loved it. Will forever be my fav sport.
a study into the impacts during a pro game found that, in the game they studied, one of the players took an impact that generated the same amount of force as a 30mph car crash
the aim is to tackle the midriff with your head ending up on the guys arse.
Anything chest height is considered a high tackle
That's just not true
@@femgoth Go on.........
@@thewomble1509 high tackles are above the shoulders. Chest height is legal.
high tackles are anything above the nipple area in rugby to prevent people using clothes-lines to take people down.
You are also not allowed to run 'on-point' to clear on coming tackles.
Also, re-watch the video...essentially all tackles result with the player face or side down with the tackling player ending up with his head on the tackled players behind
Edit: This isn't the best example of what I'm talking about...however, you hardly ever see them landing with their face on the belly of the person they've tackled, even in this they're hardly ever landing their face further round than their side.
@@thewomble1509 well...it's considdered more sporting than landing your face all on up in their junk.
These hits don’t happen all the time. Compilations of ‘outrageous hits’ give the impression that they do to someone who has never watched a game before. The beauty of the game is when you see a fantastic piece of teamwork result in a try!
Did you hear that O'Connell is gonna be coaching the Ireland forwards
Don't it just give you goose bumps...as we all jump off the sofa, regardless of what colour shirt you support.
@@ukbusman It really hurts to see a player regardless of the team getting sent off injured
AND they keep this energy level up for 80 minutes with just a 15 min half time break!
The CTE thing is a massive thing that has come up in rugby recently, but rugby players do protect themselves a lot more than NFL players because they arent wearing pads.
@David I think that’s because even though the teams are opponents for 80 minutes they still have to take care of bringing the player that is being tackled down with care. I’ve seen some really bad tackles where the player who tackled got a red card because he didn’t bring the other player down with care.
Still, rugby is the most enjoyable sport for me because of the respect the players have for each other and the referees.
I love the fact that everything he says when he relates it to America is how the world sees America 😂
You're right to be concerned about head injuries and rugby rules are constantly evolving towards making the game safer. There have been some recent cases taken by players against their clubs over concussion related disorders like dementia. A lot of the tackles in this video are illegal and would result in a red cards now. That said, rugby's physicality will always be a huge part of the sport.
Glad you like rugby mate I'm Welsh and it's our national sport, but I've also been an avid NFL fan since 1983. Love both sports.
been a rugby player all my life i have broken my nose several times, ribs and my right knee, we always tackle with the shoulders, we play in the mud, rain and the only protection we have is a mouth guard and scrum cap. love it and wouldn't change it for the world but we don't play on AstroTurf. If you every get the chance to watch the Six Nations rugby tournament you will see some of the best rugby in the world.
Best game on the planet. I might be biased though because I come from the town of Rugby.
Remember there are two types of rugby; union and league.
Yes, Rugby League for the tougher blokes...
I prefer league, it's a much faster game.
Because in League, you pass the ball to the opposition every 6 tackles
It's a much faster, high impact game.
Every tackle is important, so they go in hard
Who watches Yawnion?
@@genevievenoble8120 who have you been listening to? Yawnion is dead professionally , except for Tests.
"Nah it ain't happening cuz", exactly what I was thinking😂
When they were promoting American Football in the UK in the mid 80's there was a exibition match at Wembly (Dallas vs Washington IIRC) the day after the Rugby League Challenge Cup final, so they had a few of the players as guests at the rugby. They interviewd them before the game and then at half time. Before, it was very reserved ".. similar games..", ".lots of common skills.." etc. At half time, "THESE GUYS ARE NUTS!!"
Concussion protocols are very strict. Or at least at the prof level.
Thing is we ain't aloud to take above shoulder everything else goes, another thing to note is that the smallest person on the pitch is the ref and the lightest player is like 80 to 85kg idk the conversion and the big lads are pushing 120 to 130 kg and there just solid muscle so the hits are always big but head injures are quite minimal except if they are illegal then damage and be very bad
Yup - the latest figures for the pro game have forwards averaging 1.89m (that's 6ft 2ins) in height and 112kgs (17st 9lbs) in weight. The smaller backs are a mere 1.82m (6ft) and 90kgs (14st 2lbs). To put that into context, professional boxers who weigh 90kgs compete at cruiserweight - that's one division below heavyweight and a LOT of raw strength.
I played Rugby against a US team in Florida. They were hard men and great athletes. I also saw the 'American Eagles' Rugby team play in Bermuda. Some Americans do play Rugby, it's a shame more yanks don't. Rugby has a worldwide following, come and join us.
As someone who played rugby for 20 odd years(amateur)and had a family member who played for England I really appreciate an Americans view on rugby, great video.
The only padding is around the family jewels. Or a gum shield.
From personal experience There is no protection for family jewels in rugby just gum guards
Yeah I’ve never heard of rugby being played with a cup
You should do a reacting to AFL (Australian football league) it's probably the only sport on earth that's harder and rougher than rugby! People can literally run up eachothers backs in studded boots
Not even close, Calcio Storico.
Lol no. It's a good sport but please
I have watched some aussie rules football. Pretty sure the "rules" part of the name is incorrect cos I never saw any 😅
Both my sons played Rugby. One was built like a Brick Shit House and could and did dislocate many a shoulder blade of players trying to get pass him and the other was built like a Greyhound and covered the length of the pitch in a blink of an eye. Its a brutal sport and I was delighted when they retired.
For really good tackle technique and timing, check out 'Courtney Lawes taking names". Key rules in rugby are: You've got to wrap the arms (or at least try!), You can't tackle above shoulder height, and you must initiate the tackle when the opponent has the ball (initiate...not land...see the big hit on the French player, Plisson). Lawes does all of these things with speed, accuracy, and surprise. As an NFL fan you'll recognize the skill. I think you'll enjoy it.
Never forget pro rugby highest pay is around 1million quid. These guys are playing for the love of the sport.
No their not. Pro rugby players don't get paid in "quid" "pounds" or "euros" They are paid in NZD, AUD and SA currency.
You should check out Hurling, one of the fastest field games in the world.
We all played this in school from the age of twelve, with no pads and still tackled as hard as possible. Lots of broken bones even in school back in thee day. I remember plenty of broken bones in my school from Rugby. My mate Colin RIP broke his collar bone too.
started rugby at 7 years old, stopped at 18. plenty of broken noses, ribs in that time but over time you learn very fast muscle memory when knowing your about to get hit and become very good at relaxing, postioning yourself to take a hit. Also, you know you will have a chance to get them back later in the game which makes you care less, and unlike NFL, the play doesnt stop when your down with the ball which keeps your mind and body playing on in order to push the ball back to your teammates coming in before getting back into a good, helpful position. Playing as scrum half for all but the last 2 years, i had alot of hooks and props uppercut me during scrums. But have the unoffical medel of colliflower ears to go with my otherwise perfect face haha :)
The irritating part of these compilations is that a good percentage of the featured tackles are absolutely illegal and would result in red cards, yet they rattle up here like it’s a legal challenge. The compiler obviously prioritising drama over quality play.
check any contact sport its the same
Your reaction was as I expected it would be.. It can be a bit of a brutal game,, but that's part of the game.. Are you looking into rugby league or rugby union,, or both..You should watch The women's rugby,, they can be brutal themselves..
Ladies Rugby League is not for the faint hearted, some of those ladies are Vicious.
@@richieb7692 no sh*t mate..
This was fun to watch. You are absolutely right that there is a concern among both fans and players with regards to the long term effects of head injuries, which are common.
Probably about 1/3 of the tackles in this video were illegal, either for being too high, off the ball or because they were just shoulder charges.
The rough rules for safe tackling are:
- The "victim" must have the ball at the point of impact
- The tackler must wrap their arms around to bring the victim to ground safely
- The tackle must be below the shoulder (the chest to waist area is sort of ideal)
If anyone wants to add anything then please do so - been a while since I was playing!
To answer your question regarding CTE. The British NHS study conducted at Queen Elizabeth University Hospital, Glasgow, did show a small number of CTE cases in Rugby players but their study went further suggesting that players were more likely to suffer from dementia rather than CTE. They stated that CTE cases were much higher due to the major differences between Rugby and American Football, stats showed that Rugby players played almost twice as many games in a season and that contact and tackling drills were conducted at a much higher rate almost 3 times higher. He also suggested that rugby players are taught to a high level how to tackle and specific ways to tackle that prevent head injuries while American Football players are not due to perceived protection from helmets and pads.
First to like and comment and as for Rugby it's a lot tougher than the NFL because we don't use padding
Yeah, the amount of punishment these fellas take and dole out, I think pads would probably piss them off and think they're something for a woman's monthly.
@@TheEclecticBeard your not wrong there 90% of Rugby player's think the idea of wearing pads and helmets are for pussys but we start off playing this at kindergarten school so we get use to it and hey just so you know when it comes down to your video on the rules they are abit different depending on what you watch Rugby Union or Rugby League so thought I'd give you a heads up mate
Thank you. Yeah someone else made mention of the rules. I've found a video on each set of rules and then a league vs union differences. May just look at all 3 for a reaction since they're all around 4 minutes in length
@@TheEclecticBeard enjoy them then and hey keep up the great video's much love from the UK brother
@@TheEclecticBeard ua-cam.com/video/bmBrTouV8i0/v-deo.html The Rugby War Goddess Georgia Page, Breaking Hearts With A Broken Nose here a bit more of the tackle ua-cam.com/video/oKNPsZkKHxQ/v-deo.html
Check out "the best 4 minutes of rugby ever" it will give you a very good idea of how the game is played
The issue surrounding head injuries in rugby (either Union or League codes) is very much a hot topic, rules for tackling have been changed to try and minimise contact with the head, “scrum caps” (soft type of helmet designed to stop “cauliflower ears”) are available, and various other rules changes, like players that get a blow to the head have to be immediately checked by a qualified person (team doctor) for concussion etc before being allowed to continue playing, some, but not all players thought it would dilute the game, the very essence of rugby, but in my opinion it hasn’t, it’s different, but not diluted. Thanks for another excellent video, big thumbs up 👍😀🇬🇧🏴
I coach kids rugby and we begin tackling at the under 9 age group in England. By the time they get to 14 or 15 years old, they've already played a lot of rugby and are very aware of what they're doing. We have a massive concern with head injuries and concussion is always something we look out for and head position in the tackle is crucial.
Saying that, some of the tackles in the video aren't all exactly sporting. You can't tackle someone who is jumping. You can't tackle someone around their neck and you have to try and wrap your arms around the person you're tackling, no arms tackles are naughty.
It isn't just about smashing into each other, they all know the rules and how hard the game can be.
Yeah I noticed most of these 'hits' don't use the technique we were taught as kids growing up playing rugby / league - if you hit with the wrong shoulder and go in with your head in front of the ball carrier, rather than behind, you really put yourself at risk of head/shoulder/neck damage.
@Eclectic thanks for checking rugby out. Concussions do happen but its not a primary focus like with American ball. I'd say the most prevalent injuries from tackling are things like broken collar bone, f**ked shoulder (pretty sure that's the medical term), torn pec muscle comes up pretty often. On the receiving end, tons of bruises but usually it's nothing too serious - so long as they don't go up around your head/neck, which gets penalised. When they took spear tackles out of the game it really helped reduce injuries, but I could never fully guarantee that you won't get driven head or neck-first to the ground. It's always a risk.
As a rugby player myself, the big difference from NFL and rugby tackles is the technique. You don't lead with the head, you keep it to one side, it if the player is running and angle you keep the head behind the player in contact to protect yourself. I do believe the NFL is actually looking to rugby on this to improve the head injury stats
We love rugby because it's a tough game and normally honest. The players respect the ref. And it's a beautiful sport
After my last game our changing room was described as the scene of a double homicide, but that was after we won and the changing room had been cleaned. I miss school.
can proudly say that the highlight of my secondary school career was in the U14 and getting knocked clean out leaping low into a props knees (I was always played right wing) the important detail here is waking up to the news that id got low enough to trip him into touch and prevent the last attempt at a try winning us the match. 10/10 would repeat
It's drilled into you from day 1 of rugby (I played junior high and high school rugby) that the most important aspect of the game is (as you'll probably have a laugh about) "gentlemanly behavior." What is meant by this, is that you can tackle, but you have to tackle with care. You must wrap your arms around the opposing player you are tackling, and it is your duty of care to bring him (or her, as women play rugby sometimes more ferociously than the men do!) to the ground in a safe manner. As well, since there is no padding, you take absolute care to avoid head clashes, high tackles (arms above the underarm line), or submarine tackles (tackling at the knees or below). You tackle between the thighs and the mid-chest.
If, during training before a game, you demonstrate an inability to tackle safely or, worse, a disregard for the gentlemanly nature of the sport, you get sat, instantly. Also, you play in any weather except hard hail. Rugby is so much more fun when you get tackled and you sink 10 cm into the mud :D Also, another reason that these guys can take these tackles and keep playing is that part of rugby is getting into brick-shithouse shape. If you don't have practice after school that day, you go for a 20-minute run, then hit the weight room after school.
I’m not a rugby expert by any means but I remember being told at school by our rugby teacher, an enormous, muscular, moustachioed and good natured Welsh man called Mr Games, that you should only tackle from behind and no higher than the waist. Is that no longer the rule?
‘A bit of cold won’t hurt you boys!’.
I played rugby from 7 to 21 (when a motorcycle racing accident left me with pins in my legs) and we were taught from a very early age how to tackle safely and play what is a very rough game in a 'sporting' manner. Today there are more safety concerns than there was when I was playing forty years ago but there is madness in the lack of pads because it removes any false sense of security.
Quick insight for our fellow American cousins across the pond. Remember, In Rugby the game DOESN'T stop when a tackle is completed, it carries on.......
Also there isn't an offensive and defensive team...... every man on the field IS an attacker and a defender for the full 80 minutes.
There are a number of former professional Rugby Union players who began a class-action lawsuit against the governing bodies due to long - term brain injuries because of concussion on the Rugby Pitch. One of these guys is Steve Thompson, who was in the England squad that won the World Cup in 2003. He said in an interview in December 2020 that he cannot remember that tournament at all.
Courtney Lawes hit on Jules Plisson (Eng v Fra) was like watching cruise missiles from the first gulf war hit its target
I loved a game of Rugga at school I was a 2nd row forward.
My brother broke a lads leg playing Rugby at school and the lad was never the same again.
This'll blow you away...played for 15 years, '88-'03 for two clubs, Huntsville RFC (Alabama) and Causeway Bay RFC in Hong Kong (I traveled on business a lot) went to Alabama for one year out of high school, graduated from Auburn. Roll Tide. You definitely should watch James Haskell's rules of rugby, bang up job. Also look for greatest offloads, fends, steps, and kicking; that's the real skill stuff. Although smashing someone is definitely most satisfying.
One of the reasons for so many cases of CTE in the US due to football, was because you guys wear helmets, and a lot of players don't tackle properly and lead with their heads. The helmet makes them think they are protected from injury, but the impacts take their toll. There is a very good argument that suggest that it is safer for the players not to wear protective helmets, because it forces them to tackle properly. Enjoyed your vid :)
I'm glad I've found your channel, loving your videos. All the best from Sheffield, England.
I played Rugby for 10 years, 6 hands worth of broken fingers, 2 cages worth of cracked/broken ribs, more cuncussions than I can remember, 12+ fractured legs & Arms, and don't get me started on me feet. If you could see the sun, hear a gunshot, and walk without falling over, you were fit to continue playing.
Dude love the video and how you digest different topics... top notch
As a former rugby player, I’ve had a few hits like these and suffered the consequences, but tackling techniques are key to getting up off the deck and carrying on. It’s the little mistakes that cost careers. Mine finished, not from a big hit but a tiny slip while catching a high ball. I ruptured all but one of the ligaments in my right knee after a slight slip when planting my left foot caused me to fold my right leg in a direction that it’s not supposed to go. My ankle bone touched my hip bone and I never played again 😭
I played rugby back in the day, what a sport.
I used to play and my position was scrum half. Loved the game and the team sprit. And I've spent a few nights in hospital because of the game and Loved it!! Cheer's 🇬🇧
A Welsh friend of mine - a strong aficionado of Rugby as you might expect - was watching an American football game and disapproved of the armour they wore, comparing it with Rugby. I remember him shaking his head and saying "you don't need all that padding and those helmets. Maybe a headband. A man is entitled to keep his ears."
Watch interactions between players and refs in rugby... the contrast to this video is immense. In Britain they say “football (soccer) is a gentlemen’s game played by hooligans, rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen”.
Head injuries are a hot topic in Rugby too. A World Cup winner (Steve Thompson) is recently out as having early onset dementia from Rugby; he is 42.
I once played Rugby when I was a para army cadet for my Company (3rdCoy ACF),I'm not sure why I was chosen as I was the smallest person on the pitch (5.2/3ish,8 stone at 16 yo) and it's still one of the most memorably painful days I ever had, even 30 years later. lol.
The tackler is supposed to tackle using arms wrapped around the other guy, ie not just ramming with the shoulder. They have to avoid the head and neck area. They're not allowed to lift a guy up above the horizontal, and if they tackle someone into the air and they fall, they need to make sure they don't land on their head or neck. And, of course, they can only tackle the person with the ball.
yeye. Quite a few of these were high so the shoulder is making direct contact with the head.