Correction: I grossly overestimated the number of deaths scholars attribute to Stalin. The number is more like 7M-10M deaths between 1924-1953. These came from Wikipedia with many scholar references, including revisionist: Dekulakization 530,000-600,000 [77] Great Purge 700,000-1,200,000 [45][9][46] Gulag 1,500,000-1,713,000 [15][22] Soviet deportations 450,000-566,000 [78][79] Katyn massacre 22,000 [80] Holodomor 2,500,000-4,000,000 [81] Kazakh famine of 1931-33 Someone in comments showed great concern that I used this example rather than many other possible examples of genocide, mass killings, imperialism etc etc. The point isn't which political idealogy you align with, rather that ideologies themselves when acted upon backed by power and force can and have wrought havoc. If you are a fan of Stalin's work, then choose Hitler and Fascism, European invasion of the Americas (manifest destiny) etc etc, and maybe the point will be more clear.
Courage, not to overcome the fear, nor to accomplish the challenge. Rather courage to proceed even with the likely outcome of failure. Walk naked unprotected into the dark abyss.
Another wonderful video Angelo. One thing about awakening is in the process one understands the illusory roots of fear . And with that sometimes incremental clarity the courage to live embrace and allow becomes inevitable.
Far out, you are spot on. It’s exactly seeking a place to land, isn’t it. Surrender yes, so like abandoned children asking for something you’ll never have. Xxx courage, yes. Nightmares and body repulsions. Thank you. ❤
I laughed this morning thinking of what is it that is hidden , what are the Beliefs that are keeping me in the dark, I am truly intrigued about hidden Beliefs, I am reading your book and you talk about Beliefs being one of the most important things to investigate and I am so in the dark about my Beliefs , how to look deep, investigate , it may be take some time and patience, Fear has not arisen, I think distraction is my worse enemy 😅
never have heard anyone describ the "act" of surrender so accurately (in conformity to my experience)..with its nuances down to the energetics..thank you
Those beliefs that aren't obvious beliefs are also incredibly sneaky. It's like how much even though I feel like I'm able to express emotions well, I've found that there are some emotions that I do try to fight against or try to suppress. Some were obvious to pick up, but others have been so sneaky and still are very sneaky.
Folks, please don't be distracted by t-shirts and backgrounds. This kind of speaking is to you *as you are* and not you-as-you-imagine or you-as-you-identify. That can be heard if you listen very carefully. You are actually *no-identity.* Not even what seems objective-- like awareness or consciousness. But paradoxically, this no-identity allows temporary conventional identities, which can be put on and taken off as needed--like clothing. Nothing mystical nor romantic-- more like a type of skill. This is the value of the work. 🤗
I used to be able to reframe just about anything or any situation to make myself feel better. Now it's impossible, and it's obvious that it's stupid and pointless, but dammit it was convenient! 😅
Thanks to you Angelo,Thanks for sharing this and all videos a modern day approach to guide and find our truest what we already are one self, wishing love, grace and courage for all to be open and look, feel and be free here. “Almighty and ever-living God: We ask to be Thy servant, O’Lord, and to be a vehicle of Divine Love, a channel of Thy Will. We ask for direction and Divine assistance, and we surrender all personal will through devotion to Thy Truth. We dedicate our life to Thy service. Help us to choose love and peace above all other options, and to surrender all of our judgements to Thee, that we might have unconditional love and compassion for all of life in all of its expressions and surrender our very life to Thee at all times in all places. Gloria in Excelsis Deo, now and forever, Amen.” 🙏 Dr. David R. Hawkins
Hey Angelo. I have a question (maybe it's an idea for a video in the future? As I think many would be interested in this): How does awakening effect how narcissists treat you? Maybe you yourself have experience with taking abuse from those before awakening? The challenge sometimes is that they are family members and it's hard to just cut them off forever and so one has to find ways to keep his sanity somehow while managing them.
My mother is a narcissist. But so am I. We all are. My mother is also a Tibetan Buddhist nun! I find myself doing loads of emotional work before awakening and in terms of my mother the best thing I have done is to see the co-dependence in me that kept the narcissistic abuse alive. I got something from it too! Of course the co-dependency was set up in my childhood but it formed identity, including that I am more clever than her, I have more strength, I am more able. And I am so kind and caring. It also helped to know that my Mum’s narcissism arose as a result of unprocessed childhood trauma and is maintained with spiritual bypassing. And finally, I put lots of boundaries in place. I’m no longer a ‘nice person’.
This is a bit of a coincidence, because I was doing an inquiry meditation the other week, asking "what am I' and the answer came "you are the courage". I assumed it was a thought, but it felt a bit different from a usual thought and I didn't really know what it meant. Haven't watched the whole video yet, so maybe I'll get an answer :)
Hey Angelo do you maybe have a video or could make one or could suggest something about making decisions? When we live as the awareness, at all stages, how are we supposed to know what decision to make if the mind creates so much confusion and makes us believe things that are not true? Is there any motivator that you would suggest to follow? One could say love, but we all know how that ends if you try to be a good person 😂 or maybe a completely different answer to this question would be relevant like "be fluid" or something? This work gets confusing, mind identification, disentangling yourself from it, seeing through beliefs, it's so much confusion, it would be nice to have some pointer to orient yourself with. And I mean decisions when it comes to life, daily decisions, decisions in relationships, just normal human stuff, thanks ♥
Angelo - I am reading "Awake" right now but the thing Im stuck at now is I can see/have seen through deep insight that the self is an illusion. I know the hearing is just the heard, the seeing just seeing and the feeling just feeling. Etc. But the feeling still feels often like suffering even know I know the agent its happening to is substanceless. If enlightenment is already here why does the feeling that is just felt often feel unpleasant - esp. in meditation? When suffering is there I just leave it to manifest and try to accept its full expression. But if I need to purify the mind...more or cultivate more acceptance...how can awakening already be here? How can it have no relationship with time? How much seeing nature as nature does it take to end suffering? Shouldnt I immediately see it and be done with it as Krishnamurti used to say? (I have been practicing for 20 year so far)? How do I finish it? What isnt seen? Thank you for your service!
I wish I could awaken but every time I self inquire I just find myself in a seemingly endless haze. I don’t know if I’m doing it right and I also get music stuck in my head that blocks my concentration.
Jaccobtw, when mind gets busy, go back to the breath. Self inquiry is indeed valuable. Try finding the Seer, the Hearer, the one meditating. Don’t focus on what’s in consciousness. Just be aware, as if you are Conscientiousness.
Using "communism" as an example of wanton violence when the neoliberal world order is currently actively provoking proxy war is beyond astonishing.... Let's not even get started on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc ETC. It was gross when Eckhart did it and it's still gross now. But then again, Eckhart is a fabulously wealthy white European man so I also completely understand why he'd like to point the finger at "communism" and not neoliberalism. It is WEIRD when there are much more salient examples HERE and NOW. But hey, spiritual teachers have biases too :)
Perhaps. But it was much more straight-forward in the past, the line of demarcation between obvious 'good' and evil. Now all kinds of various labels and flags (like Marxist, Fascist, Socialist) are being thrown-around by people not knowing what they really mean, or anything of their true history. It's as though 'The Dark Side' has completely fallen over the Earth. It's interesting though, how Neoliberalism's End-Game seems pretty-much on par with previous Communistic regimes, insofar as generating a desperate monolithic Underclass with limited cash and freedom, heavily-surveilled and ruled by a jostling patch-quilt of shadowy Corporate concerns that co-opted all our Media and Western Governments. This is what happens when greed is promoted as a virtue, and we give Corporations and Financial Cartels legal person-hood. Go figure...
Thought someone might have a go for using communism. He didn’t have any fear there. Much easier to slag off the nazis, they don’t seem to mind so much.
Nazi idealogy the same. The point wasn't which side/idealogy is correct or who killed more people, the point was ideologies have lead to violence on a mass scale. Hopefully you get the point. Pick which ideaology you dislike the most then replace the examples I used and maybe it will land ;)
I did not side with Stalin or say that I am a fan of his work. My point is that if one wants people to truly and fully get the point about how ideology can lead to, for example, mass violence it is helpful to point out how astonishingly insidious it can be: neoliberalism is a profoundly violent ideology with a truly horrifying past (and present!) but because it is the norm in the collective west, IT ISN'T THOUGHT OF AS AN IDEOLOGY AT ALL, it's thought of as a matter of fact. It is SUBTLE. Failing to acknowledge this would be useful if one has an interest in framing, as an example, Democrats and Republicans as two separate "choices" when in fact they share the same core interests (but fill in the blank with your country's "options"). Eckhart is from Germany at a time when the socialist German democratic republic GDR actually existed, so his pointing at "communist" ideology is somewhat more understandable. The point is that our belief systems are so subtle and insidious that we don't even realize we are unknowingly encumbered by them even now, but using "communism" and exaggerated death counts from a century ago a) is a bad example because people poorly understand that history and project A LOT and b) makes the point in a ham fisted way when our CURRENT predominant belief system can be revealed as subtly pulling the strings of our entire thought pattern RIGHT NOW. The call is coming from inside the house. And this is like bringing a machete to brain surgery. Honestly the way this was responded to illustrates my point and why it was a bad example when used by Eckhart, and a bad example now unless you REALLY unpack it all (again why it's a terrible example to use, it's a lot of work). If we're dealing in the subtlety let's deal in the subtlety. That neoliberal imperialism has currently brought us all to the brink of human extinction is just icing on the cake. Frame this as defending mass death or casual tribalism or being a mere ideologue, that makes my point better.
Question: i asked about two months ago about self-inquiry and you said: ,,dont get lost in subtle thoughts". What i can identify as subtle thoughts in my experience, are those miliseconds of my mind visualizing my face or head. Are there other thoughts people might miss?
Correction: I grossly overestimated the number of deaths scholars attribute to Stalin. The number is more like 7M-10M deaths between 1924-1953. These came from Wikipedia with many scholar references, including revisionist:
Dekulakization 530,000-600,000 [77]
Great Purge 700,000-1,200,000 [45][9][46]
Gulag 1,500,000-1,713,000 [15][22]
Soviet deportations 450,000-566,000 [78][79]
Katyn massacre 22,000 [80]
Holodomor 2,500,000-4,000,000 [81]
Kazakh famine of 1931-33
Someone in comments showed great concern that I used this example rather than many other possible examples of genocide, mass killings, imperialism etc etc. The point isn't which political idealogy you align with, rather that ideologies themselves when acted upon backed by power and force can and have wrought havoc. If you are a fan of Stalin's work, then choose Hitler and Fascism, European invasion of the Americas (manifest destiny) etc etc, and maybe the point will be more clear.
Courage, not to overcome the fear, nor to accomplish the challenge. Rather courage to proceed even with the likely outcome of failure. Walk naked unprotected into the dark abyss.
Another wonderful video Angelo. One thing about awakening is in the process one understands the illusory roots of fear . And with that sometimes incremental clarity the courage to live embrace and allow becomes inevitable.
Far out, you are spot on. It’s exactly seeking a place to land, isn’t it. Surrender yes, so like abandoned children asking for something you’ll never have. Xxx courage, yes. Nightmares and body repulsions. Thank you. ❤
Courage - Villagers. Definitely worth a listen ❤
Went to ck when this was posted. I feel privileged grin❤
I laughed this morning thinking of what is it that is hidden , what are the Beliefs that are keeping me in the dark, I am truly intrigued about hidden Beliefs, I am reading your book and you talk about Beliefs being one of the most important things to investigate and I am so in the dark about my Beliefs , how to look deep, investigate , it may be take some time and patience, Fear has not arisen, I think distraction is my worse enemy 😅
thank you, i am happily deluded you posted this for me. let's see through this all the way.
To the sentient beings watching this video 1000 years from now, hello I see you.
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never have heard anyone describ the "act" of surrender so accurately (in conformity to my experience)..with its nuances down to the energetics..thank you
Thank you Angelo
🙏🏵️🙏🏵️🙏
Thank you so much !!!
Those beliefs that aren't obvious beliefs are also incredibly sneaky. It's like how much even though I feel like I'm able to express emotions well, I've found that there are some emotions that I do try to fight against or try to suppress. Some were obvious to pick up, but others have been so sneaky and still are very sneaky.
the fear and terror of letting go are 'real,' seemingly
Indeed
Thankyou ❤
Folks, please don't be distracted by t-shirts and backgrounds. This kind of speaking is to you *as you are* and not you-as-you-imagine or you-as-you-identify. That can be heard if you listen very carefully. You are actually *no-identity.* Not even what seems objective-- like awareness or consciousness. But paradoxically, this no-identity allows temporary conventional identities, which can be put on and taken off as needed--like clothing. Nothing mystical nor romantic-- more like a type of skill. This is the value of the work. 🤗
good addition, thanks
I used to be able to reframe just about anything or any situation to make myself feel better. Now it's impossible, and it's obvious that it's stupid and pointless, but dammit it was convenient! 😅
exactly that lol
,,,,here the courage was stimulated 79 per/cent (seriously.! )
Thanks to you Angelo,Thanks for sharing this and all videos a modern day approach to guide and find our truest what we already are one self, wishing love, grace and courage for all to be open and look, feel and be free here.
“Almighty and ever-living God: We ask to be Thy servant, O’Lord, and to be a vehicle of Divine Love, a channel of Thy Will. We ask for direction and Divine assistance, and we surrender all personal will through devotion to Thy Truth. We dedicate our life to Thy service. Help us to choose love and peace above all other options, and to surrender all of our judgements to Thee, that we might have unconditional love and compassion for all of life in all of its expressions and surrender our very life to Thee at all times in all places. Gloria in Excelsis Deo, now and forever, Amen.” 🙏 Dr. David R. Hawkins
Hey Angelo. I have a question (maybe it's an idea for a video in the future? As I think many would be interested in this): How does awakening effect how narcissists treat you? Maybe you yourself have experience with taking abuse from those before awakening? The challenge sometimes is that they are family members and it's hard to just cut them off forever and so one has to find ways to keep his sanity somehow while managing them.
My mother is a narcissist. But so am I. We all are. My mother is also a Tibetan Buddhist nun! I find myself doing loads of emotional work before awakening and in terms of my mother the best thing I have done is to see the co-dependence in me that kept the narcissistic abuse alive. I got something from it too! Of course the co-dependency was set up in my childhood but it formed identity, including that I am more clever than her, I have more strength, I am more able. And I am so kind and caring.
It also helped to know that my Mum’s narcissism arose as a result of unprocessed childhood trauma and is maintained with spiritual bypassing. And finally, I put lots of boundaries in place. I’m no longer a ‘nice person’.
This is a bit of a coincidence, because I was doing an inquiry meditation the other week, asking "what am I' and the answer came "you are the courage". I assumed it was a thought, but it felt a bit different from a usual thought and I didn't really know what it meant. Haven't watched the whole video yet, so maybe I'll get an answer :)
Coincidence that the day you did this on courage, the Krishnamurti foundation podcast was also on courage ☮
How to allow my fears and disappointments to surface and not hate myself for them?
Hey Angelo do you maybe have a video or could make one or could suggest something about making decisions? When we live as the awareness, at all stages, how are we supposed to know what decision to make if the mind creates so much confusion and makes us believe things that are not true? Is there any motivator that you would suggest to follow? One could say love, but we all know how that ends if you try to be a good person 😂 or maybe a completely different answer to this question would be relevant like "be fluid" or something? This work gets confusing, mind identification, disentangling yourself from it, seeing through beliefs, it's so much confusion, it would be nice to have some pointer to orient yourself with. And I mean decisions when it comes to life, daily decisions, decisions in relationships, just normal human stuff, thanks ♥
Angelo - I am reading "Awake" right now but the thing Im stuck at now is I can see/have seen through deep insight that the self is an illusion. I know the hearing is just the heard, the seeing just seeing and the feeling just feeling. Etc.
But the feeling still feels often like suffering even know I know the agent its happening to is substanceless.
If enlightenment is already here why does the feeling that is just felt often feel unpleasant - esp. in meditation? When suffering is there I just leave it to manifest and try to accept its full expression. But if I need to purify the mind...more or cultivate more acceptance...how can awakening already be here? How can it have no relationship with time? How much seeing nature as nature does it take to end suffering? Shouldnt I immediately see it and be done with it as Krishnamurti used to say? (I have been practicing for 20 year so far)? How do I finish it?
What isnt seen?
Thank you for your service!
🙏
🙏🏻❤️
I wish I could awaken but every time I self inquire I just find myself in a seemingly endless haze. I don’t know if I’m doing it right and I also get music stuck in my head that blocks my concentration.
Maybe take a break from music for awhile? Or try a concentration binaural beats while inquiring
Jaccobtw, when mind gets busy, go back to the breath. Self inquiry is indeed valuable. Try finding the Seer, the Hearer, the one meditating. Don’t focus on what’s in consciousness. Just be aware, as if you are Conscientiousness.
Yes you're doing it right.
Listern to the music fully, don't push it away. See what happens. Sometimes concentration is the block. 🙏
Using "communism" as an example of wanton violence when the neoliberal world order is currently actively provoking proxy war is beyond astonishing.... Let's not even get started on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc ETC. It was gross when Eckhart did it and it's still gross now. But then again, Eckhart is a fabulously wealthy white European man so I also completely understand why he'd like to point the finger at "communism" and not neoliberalism. It is WEIRD when there are much more salient examples HERE and NOW. But hey, spiritual teachers have biases too :)
Perhaps. But it was much more straight-forward in the past, the line of demarcation between obvious 'good' and evil. Now all kinds of various labels and flags (like Marxist, Fascist, Socialist) are being thrown-around by people not knowing what they really mean, or anything of their true history. It's as though 'The Dark Side' has completely fallen over the Earth. It's interesting though, how Neoliberalism's End-Game seems pretty-much on par with previous Communistic regimes, insofar as generating a desperate monolithic Underclass with limited cash and freedom, heavily-surveilled and ruled by a jostling patch-quilt of shadowy Corporate concerns that co-opted all our Media and Western Governments. This is what happens when greed is promoted as a virtue, and we give Corporations and Financial Cartels legal person-hood. Go figure...
Thought someone might have a go for using communism.
He didn’t have any fear there.
Much easier to slag off the nazis, they don’t seem to mind so much.
Nazi idealogy the same. The point wasn't which side/idealogy is correct or who killed more people, the point was ideologies have lead to violence on a mass scale. Hopefully you get the point. Pick which ideaology you dislike the most then replace the examples I used and maybe it will land ;)
@@SimplyAlwaysAwake yes exactly right.
Or left
You have to be so inclusive these days. Great video btw.
I did not side with Stalin or say that I am a fan of his work. My point is that if one wants people to truly and fully get the point about how ideology can lead to, for example, mass violence it is helpful to point out how astonishingly insidious it can be: neoliberalism is a profoundly violent ideology with a truly horrifying past (and present!) but because it is the norm in the collective west, IT ISN'T THOUGHT OF AS AN IDEOLOGY AT ALL, it's thought of as a matter of fact. It is SUBTLE. Failing to acknowledge this would be useful if one has an interest in framing, as an example, Democrats and Republicans as two separate "choices" when in fact they share the same core interests (but fill in the blank with your country's "options"). Eckhart is from Germany at a time when the socialist German democratic republic GDR actually existed, so his pointing at "communist" ideology is somewhat more understandable. The point is that our belief systems are so subtle and insidious that we don't even realize we are unknowingly encumbered by them even now, but using "communism" and exaggerated death counts from a century ago a) is a bad example because people poorly understand that history and project A LOT and b) makes the point in a ham fisted way when our CURRENT predominant belief system can be revealed as subtly pulling the strings of our entire thought pattern RIGHT NOW. The call is coming from inside the house. And this is like bringing a machete to brain surgery. Honestly the way this was responded to illustrates my point and why it was a bad example when used by Eckhart, and a bad example now unless you REALLY unpack it all (again why it's a terrible example to use, it's a lot of work). If we're dealing in the subtlety let's deal in the subtlety. That neoliberal imperialism has currently brought us all to the brink of human extinction is just icing on the cake. Frame this as defending mass death or casual tribalism or being a mere ideologue, that makes my point better.
Question: i asked about two months ago about self-inquiry and you said: ,,dont get lost in subtle thoughts". What i can identify as subtle thoughts in my experience, are those miliseconds of my mind visualizing my face or head. Are there other thoughts people might miss?
🙏🙏🙏