Thanks for addressing my comment. ❤ l never thought that l could have been in a good place😂. And youre right, you cannot talk to anybody about how you feel. They would become so worried. And yes, I am going on with self inquiry, maybe starting to feel a sutle freedom. Some peace in midst of the hopelessness.
Hey Christina! Was reading a Ramana Maharshi Q&A and thought of sharing this with you. Pretty sure it will benefit you: "Question: When we fall from the path what should we do? Ramana: All will be well in the end. There is a steady determination that gets you on your feet again after a fall or break. Gradually the obstacles get weaker and your current gets stronger. Everything comes right in the end. Steady determination is what is required. Peace will be deeper and more prolonged with continued practice. It will also lead to the goal. The control of desire and meditation are interdependent. They must go hand in hand. Practice and dispassion bring about the result. Dispassion is to restrain the mind from projecting outwards and practice is to keep it turned inward. There is a constant struggle within between control and meditation. Meditation will eventually be successful. If you seek God with your whole heart, then you may be assured that the Grace of God is also seeking you." Peace. Stay full of hope! 🙏❤
For the people who are new to this stuff.. This is no joke. You will eventually start to get "glimpses" and they are truly scary and you will feel like going insane. That fear will take you couple steps back and slow down the process. Once it "starts" it will scare you like hell. Im also new for this stuff, but I cant go back anymore. And yes, words are tricky in this field.
Thanks for this video. I’m 50 now….and suffered in some way for I’d say 47 years of it. I catch my thoughts often repeating “I just want to die now” That’s how tired I am of the pit in my centre, the seeking and the boredom. Overall the feeling of doing something wrong and not living life the way it was intended. What a waste.
Funny, a few days ago I shared with my therapist, this same thing. That I am seeing that everything I am doing towards awakening, is just reinforcing a separate "me" -- attempting to move towards awakening. Thanks for this. Perfect timing.
I think people get caught up in trying to maintain meditative states when this is the most important realisation. When we see that there's no way the self as we habitually conceive of it can exist it forever changes the mind's relationship with the illusion of it.
I think we can all relate to the viewers comment that was read, I know I can. I have been lifted up and dashed back down by the waves of life and awakening so many times I've lost count. Im kind of in a steady as she goes approach. Available for whatever happens and totally willing to be stabilized in awakening. Grace is what's up now. Just letting go.
Sometimes I feel I've been driving on this pathless road to Awakening with the brakes on... no wonder why the feelings of being stuck, dissatisfaction, and disappointment ... 🤦🏻♀️ this video is a great reminder of letting go of the urge to be in control, release the pedals, take the back seat, and ride along in this driverless vehicle and into the mystery! Thanks Angelo! ❤️🙏 See you in a couple of weeks at AOLRC!
Thanks Christina for this question! I get that occasionally on daily life and specifically in the retreats. I had it in Angelo’s retreat in Australia. Thanks Angelo for the response. 🙏🏻💜🙏🏻
I am most definately in it , for the most part I am challenged. It has landed for me, this is how it is, now and then I get a 2nd wind....I also sense once we've deeply engaged the awakening process, there's no U turn, it has it's own momentum and it's up to me to embrace the truth of really not knowing how this is going to unfold or even if I'll be graced to fully abide in the truth of the being that I am.
Dear Angelo, First of all, I love your content, you are a great guide and "teacher" even when I know you don't consider yourself as such. You are nonetheless a amazing person who has helped more people then we can count❤ I do have a request out of curiosity. I drank some booze the other day and was wondering what the effects are on my ego and consciousness. If you do consider making a video, maybe combine with other substances, like drugs or "to much" sugar. Dopamine etc. So many options. Thanks for reading and have a great day. Ps. Maybe invite Zbin for the mix as he also loves discussing these topics😊
muggles!! 😂💜 but ah I can relate to that comment so much. I've been there for a while, it just feels like a slow grind. there's been glimpses though and some of them are beyond words. Just beautiful 🙏🏻
6:15 It's never felt like giving up, but it does feel like there's been a kind of "burnout" recently. It still truly seems like if I could find a good teacher to keep me on track, or even a monastery or meditation center where I could sit for months without being diverted from the "train tracks" by mundane life, then there's nothing preventing awakening, or simply awakeness. (and this is obviously the seeking, the projection into a future that'll "solve the problem", the idea of "what's missing" and why this isn't already available RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, which it blatantly is) It feels so immediate and obvious, there's no more magic tricks or special maps or intellectual understanding needed. Your pointings have been so exact for that and have cut off so many beliefs that only lead to going in circles. But now that it's this direct, "in my face", nowhere else to go but here, the hesitation, avoidance and distraction feel so much more powerful. Habits feel so much more powerful and engulfing than they did before. Doubts keep arising and being identified with, only to drop the moment they're seen as doubt in the moment, and yet in retrospect they clearly succeed given that I haven't dedicated EVERYTHING to this when it's so clear nothing else in "ordinary life" feels like it matters nearly as much. In a word, fear, probably. Sadness too, while writing this, but no resistance to it. The whole story just feels so silly by this point, even if it keeps being narrated and frequently believed in until moments of slightly-more clarity. So easy to look at all of that and sigh and think "when will it end, when will the last straw hit and I'll snap and put all attention into this, or surrender spontaneously, no more bouncing back and forth, whether right here and now or in some ideal environment", but that's just part of the story, projecting it into a future and past, ignoring what's right in my face... So exhausting. So unnecessary. Or maybe it's just part of the ride.
'Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking. -Ferdinand Foch. It's all about the attitude, your current conditions are the perfect conditions to practice with your patterns
I watched I video of a lady speaking about her awakening. Long story short it took her 20+ years to become for wanting of a better word fully awakened. 😫 Over 20 years. My god I’m about a year in. I doubt I got much more than 20 years to live. That’s very daunting to me but I feel there’s no shutting this down now. Not that I want to but please for the love of god I hope things open up a bit sooner than that. It didn’t seem she had the kind of help that’s here now , like your Chanel , so I hope that’s a factor. I’ve got your book on my Xmas list to so very much look forward to that. And I hope it gives me a nudge in the right direction. A story like yours detailed from start to finish is what I need. I know there’s no finish but you know what I mean.🙏
LOL! Not to discourage you but I have been on some kind of spiritual "path" or other for over 50 years! Certainly am wiser and more open but wouldn't say I am awakened. That particular thing has not happened other than glimpses. But I have no choice but to stay the course. It's obviously my lifes mission. It's in Gods hands. I quit "trying" a while ago.
It would be very helpful to inquire at that particular moment, "to whom do these thoughts arise?" I imagine Sri Ramana Maharshi would tell Christina something along the lines of "Who is tired? Who doesn't want to chase awakening anymore? Who says that life is boring and it's not what he/she wants? Ask the question 'Who Am I?' and inquire"
Angelo, have you ever met anyone with bipolar disorder and with psychosis that got enlightened (besides Frank Yang)? If so, did they stop taking medication? Thank you.
They often do stop taking medication anyway. Frank seems a bit manic (at least hyperactive) to me. I didn't know he had BP, but that was my first impression of him based on a recent interview.
@@davidb.2496 , not disagreeing, only that there is no One to read/watch. Only What’s Happening. Which is nothing appearing as Everything. Happening to No One.
Burning out from seeking, letting go, finally surrendering to what’s just here, forever & never deviating, just done. Feels ok :)
Thanks for addressing my comment. ❤ l never thought that l could have been in a good place😂. And youre right, you cannot talk to anybody about how you feel. They would become so worried. And yes, I am going on with self inquiry, maybe starting to feel a sutle freedom. Some peace in midst of the hopelessness.
Hey Christina!
Was reading a Ramana Maharshi Q&A and thought of sharing this with you. Pretty sure it will benefit you:
"Question: When we fall from the path what should we do?
Ramana: All will be well in the end. There is a steady determination that gets you on your feet again after a fall or break. Gradually the obstacles get weaker and your current gets stronger. Everything comes right in the end. Steady determination is what is required. Peace will be deeper and more prolonged with continued practice. It will also lead to the goal.
The control of desire and meditation are interdependent. They must go hand in hand. Practice and dispassion bring about the result. Dispassion is to restrain the mind from projecting outwards and practice is to keep it turned inward. There is a constant struggle within between control and meditation. Meditation will eventually be successful. If you seek God with your whole heart, then you may be assured that the Grace of God is also seeking you."
Peace. Stay full of hope! 🙏❤
Thank you for asking.
For the people who are new to this stuff.. This is no joke. You will eventually start to get "glimpses" and they are truly scary and you will feel like going insane. That fear will take you couple steps back and slow down the process. Once it "starts" it will scare you like hell. Im also new for this stuff, but I cant go back anymore. And yes, words are tricky in this field.
I feel this
Thanks for this video. I’m 50 now….and suffered in some way for I’d say 47 years of it. I catch my thoughts often repeating “I just want to die now” That’s how tired I am of the pit in my centre, the seeking and the boredom. Overall the feeling of doing something wrong and not living life the way it was intended. What a waste.
Funny, a few days ago I shared with my therapist, this same thing. That I am seeing that everything I am doing towards awakening, is just reinforcing a separate "me" -- attempting to move towards awakening.
Thanks for this. Perfect timing.
Awakening is not an acquisition, but a lessening. Not the dropping away of the Self. Rather the realization that the Self never existed. 🎉 😮
Yeah, realizing that the so-called Self was just a bunch of thoughts!
I think people get caught up in trying to maintain meditative states when this is the most important realisation. When we see that there's no way the self as we habitually conceive of it can exist it forever changes the mind's relationship with the illusion of it.
I think we can all relate to the viewers comment that was read, I know I can. I have been lifted up and dashed back down by the waves of life and awakening so many times I've lost count. Im kind of in a steady as she goes approach. Available for whatever happens and totally willing to be stabilized in awakening. Grace is what's up now. Just letting go.
The pursuer is backward extrapolated constantly by the pursuit 🔄
Sometimes I feel I've been driving on this pathless road to Awakening with the brakes on... no wonder why the feelings of being stuck, dissatisfaction, and disappointment ... 🤦🏻♀️ this video is a great reminder of letting go of the urge to be in control, release the pedals, take the back seat, and ride along in this driverless vehicle and into the mystery! Thanks Angelo! ❤️🙏 See you in a couple of weeks at AOLRC!
Thank you. I'm trying to listen.
Yes Angelo, I didn’t realize the gravity. Now it’s so profound and dearly appreciated.
So much gratitude 💖
Thanks Christina for this question! I get that occasionally on daily life and specifically in the retreats. I had it in Angelo’s retreat in Australia. Thanks Angelo for the response. 🙏🏻💜🙏🏻
I am most definately in it , for the most part I am challenged. It has landed for me, this is how it is, now and then I get a 2nd wind....I also sense once we've deeply engaged the awakening process, there's no U turn, it has it's own momentum and it's up to me to embrace the truth of really not knowing how this is going to unfold or even if I'll be graced to fully abide in the truth of the being that I am.
That muggle analogy is perfect, haha.
Super helpful thanks Chris Tina and 😇 😇 Angelo ❤
Dear Angelo,
First of all, I love your content, you are a great guide and "teacher" even when I know you don't consider yourself as such. You are nonetheless a amazing person who has helped more people then we can count❤
I do have a request out of curiosity. I drank some booze the other day and was wondering what the effects are on my ego and consciousness. If you do consider making a video, maybe combine with other substances, like drugs or "to much" sugar. Dopamine etc. So many options. Thanks for reading and have a great day.
Ps. Maybe invite Zbin for the mix as he also loves discussing these topics😊
Keep it coming. Thank you❤
Thank you, that's very helpful guide!🙏
muggles!! 😂💜 but ah I can relate to that comment so much. I've been there for a while, it just feels like a slow grind. there's been glimpses though and some of them are beyond words. Just beautiful 🙏🏻
6:15 It's never felt like giving up, but it does feel like there's been a kind of "burnout" recently.
It still truly seems like if I could find a good teacher to keep me on track, or even a monastery or meditation center where I could sit for months without being diverted from the "train tracks" by mundane life, then there's nothing preventing awakening, or simply awakeness. (and this is obviously the seeking, the projection into a future that'll "solve the problem", the idea of "what's missing" and why this isn't already available RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, which it blatantly is)
It feels so immediate and obvious, there's no more magic tricks or special maps or intellectual understanding needed. Your pointings have been so exact for that and have cut off so many beliefs that only lead to going in circles.
But now that it's this direct, "in my face", nowhere else to go but here, the hesitation, avoidance and distraction feel so much more powerful. Habits feel so much more powerful and engulfing than they did before. Doubts keep arising and being identified with, only to drop the moment they're seen as doubt in the moment, and yet in retrospect they clearly succeed given that I haven't dedicated EVERYTHING to this when it's so clear nothing else in "ordinary life" feels like it matters nearly as much.
In a word, fear, probably. Sadness too, while writing this, but no resistance to it. The whole story just feels so silly by this point, even if it keeps being narrated and frequently believed in until moments of slightly-more clarity.
So easy to look at all of that and sigh and think "when will it end, when will the last straw hit and I'll snap and put all attention into this, or surrender spontaneously, no more bouncing back and forth, whether right here and now or in some ideal environment", but that's just part of the story, projecting it into a future and past, ignoring what's right in my face... So exhausting. So unnecessary. Or maybe it's just part of the ride.
Boomerang to you. I feel you .🌻💛
'Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking. -Ferdinand Foch.
It's all about the attitude, your current conditions are the perfect conditions to practice with your patterns
I watched I video of a lady speaking about her awakening. Long story short it took her 20+ years to become for wanting of a better word fully awakened. 😫
Over 20 years. My god I’m about a year in. I doubt I got much more than 20 years to live. That’s very daunting to me but I feel there’s no shutting this down now. Not that I want to but please for the love of god I hope things open up a bit sooner than that. It didn’t seem she had the kind of help that’s here now , like your Chanel , so I hope that’s a factor. I’ve got your book on my Xmas list to so very much look forward to that. And I hope it gives me a nudge in the right direction. A story like yours detailed from start to finish is what I need. I know there’s no finish but you know what I mean.🙏
LOL! Not to discourage you but I have been on some kind of spiritual "path" or other for over 50 years! Certainly am wiser and more open but wouldn't say I am awakened. That particular thing has not happened other than glimpses. But I have no choice but to stay the course. It's obviously my lifes mission. It's in Gods hands. I quit "trying" a while ago.
It would be very helpful to inquire at that particular moment, "to whom do these thoughts arise?"
I imagine Sri Ramana Maharshi would tell Christina something along the lines of "Who is tired? Who doesn't want to chase awakening anymore? Who says that life is boring and it's not what he/she wants? Ask the question 'Who Am I?' and inquire"
In. Search 👀 of the miraculous ❤
The fourth way❤
💛
Messing up with predictive coding (the mind spiel, aka identity) always backfires.
How much of your decision to upload this is related to Delson Armstrong and his recent......admission?
Angelo, have you ever met anyone with bipolar disorder and with psychosis that got enlightened (besides Frank Yang)? If so, did they stop taking medication? Thank you.
They often do stop taking medication anyway. Frank seems a bit manic (at least hyperactive) to me. I didn't know he had BP, but that was my first impression of him based on a recent interview.
So what does it matter if "I" give up or not 😂
If I let, go of the thoughts how do i read a book or understand your UA-cam?
@8996… thoughts will not stop, but identifying with them can. It’s all part of What’s Happening.
You read/watch from the position of the higher consciousness.
@@davidb.2496 , not disagreeing, only that there is no One to read/watch. Only What’s Happening. Which is nothing appearing as Everything. Happening to No One.
@@davidb.2496 as soon as i typed it, i got that. Thanks!
@@cps_Zen_Run yes!