Omg! Vorazun nearly counters this map! Guys forgot about p2 that is OP on this map. Dark archons and zealots, all what u need. Cast Confuse as fast as you can on enemies and watch to they dying and do nearly nothing to you(including hybrids). If against melee units you can have problems, with ranged.. , under dark pylon should be easy peasy. And dont forget about mind control. Ill place Vorazun in ±lowest S tier - middle A tier. Problems here can be melee units, vipers mb, and... idk what else :/
11:11 Absolutely agree that planetary fortress would make HH so much better against most mutations. Even without mutation, defensive maps like Dead of Night are hard for HH to solo
if you want to try out a H&H with Planetary Fortress, there is a coop mod in Custom called CXL COOP where commanders have been buffed, and between the other buffs, H&H was given Planetary Fortress and Autoturrets.
Swan is double S. I played as Abatur with him and he did about double the damage. It was easier that most brutal + missions. I just provided toxic nests to get vision and his aoe slow splash destroyed everything. It probably did over 35% of our conbinated total damage. It destroyed some waves on its own. The slow seems to counter speed freaks tremendously. The best part is that he didnt really loose anything for his laser. He still got an army of wraiths that could match my own army... You need vision for swan though... But double S with Abatur... or P1 Stetman.
22 mentions splitting Stukov's p3 units for double waves, but that's from the perspective of a solo run, isn't it? I'm going to assume my pub ally can take care of his side of a double wave.
Omg! Vorazun nearly counters this map! Guys forgot about p2 that is OP on this map. Dark archons and zealots, all what u need. Cast Confuse as fast as you can on enemies and watch to they dying and do nearly nothing to you(including hybrids). If against melee units you can have problems, with ranged.. , under dark pylon should be easy peasy. And dont forget about mind control. Ill place Vorazun in ±lowest S tier - middle A tier. Problems here can be melee units, vipers mb, and... idk what else :/
11:11 Absolutely agree that planetary fortress would make HH so much better against most mutations. Even without mutation, defensive maps like Dead of Night are hard for HH to solo
They should get a special variant of PF that can move even if slowly tbh
Try out CXL COOP in Custom, almost all commanders excluding the most OP ones have been buffed and H&H has received Planetary Fortress and autoturrets.
I would love for Han and Horner to have planeteries. They so need a buff.
and Ghost too !
if you want to try out a H&H with Planetary Fortress, there is a coop mod in Custom called CXL COOP where commanders have been buffed, and between the other buffs, H&H was given Planetary Fortress and Autoturrets.
lol @ 43:22 debating over exact timings that I'll never be able to remember!
*Off by 5 seconds
Twotuu: Such a critical mistake!
@29:24 that should be a challenge, 0 temple damage no thrashers killed
Swan is double S. I played as Abatur with him and he did about double the damage. It was easier that most brutal + missions. I just provided toxic nests to get vision and his aoe slow splash destroyed everything. It probably did over 35% of our conbinated total damage. It destroyed some waves on its own. The slow seems to counter speed freaks tremendously. The best part is that he didnt really loose anything for his laser. He still got an army of wraiths that could match my own army... You need vision for swan though... But double S with Abatur... or P1 Stetman.
You know it’s an easy mutation when there’s no time stamps
22 mentions splitting Stukov's p3 units for double waves, but that's from the perspective of a solo run, isn't it? I'm going to assume my pub ally can take care of his side of a double wave.
I prefer to put Zeratul in S, Its very easy to use mass cannons p2 or any prestige if you know the timings and spawn I think.
Stetellites count as static defense on this map?
OMG, pdd's counter strike fighters? So sad for H and H.