That’s cool! I got a class B RV on the 2006 350 Econoline chassis and saw on the kit website that the kits not for RVs. I wonder why. I need more clearance. I like the 3” kit. Thanks for a nice video
I just installed this spacer lift on my 2012 E-350. Had the front end alignment done but it seems that the steering wheel does not self center like it used to and the steering is slightly darty. I'm thinking that the radius arms are now too much of an angle so I've lost some camber. Has anyone else experienced this? I think I may need to fab up some drop down brackets for the radius arm rear mounts.
20,000+ views and 300+ likes later and this video is still my most watched, liked and commented on video. Thank you everyone for your continued support if you guys have any other questions or would like to see any new videos with this van or any of my other projects please let me know. -Thirteen
honestly.... no. you'll have to do some experimenting or see what others have done. but I don't think you'll be able to go much bigger then oem without cutting because of the front tires turn radius. i will say before the lift i was running 28 or 29s without any issues.
Nice, great info and really like the van build. I am wondering did you really need to cut the fenders like that to not rub or did you just want that look? I am looking into doing a similar setup as far as lift and looking at tire options and would love to just throw 33s on but would like to do only minor trimming so not sure if that would be possible or just stick with a smaller size maybe about 31.5" (265/75/16) or 32".
To fit 33s like on my van trimming the fenders or replacing them with aftermarket ones will 100% be necessary Especially close to where the fender meets the doors.
Thanks for your video brother and truly help my brother's van I got a van of my own it's a 1999 3/4 ton I want to do a 4-in lift on it two-wheel drive what do you think?
You're very welcome and thank you for the feedback. 4in lift kits for the Econoline Vans are very expensive. Due to the twin I-beam suspension in the front 2in is really the most you can do unless you're willing to spend $3,000 to $4,000.
Thanks for the info I am going to do the 2 inch on the front you're right it is pretty expensive to do a 4-inch or a 6-inch Lift. Thanks again for all your videos.
@@Tstreetscb72 it honestly depends on what you're using the van for. I go on some dirt trails, but mostly use my van for towing. So I just used OEM shocks
Not sure on the length it's been over a year since I did this video. If you purchase the same lift kit I did the bolt should have come with it, if not I would contact them.
Good video. I'm going to do this 2'' lift and trim the fender also at the bottom, now that i see 33's clear easy. I may end up running 275/65/20's (34'') street tire. How about adding 1/2 or 1'' body lift?
The issue isn't so much the height that you cut the front fenders it's how close the tires are to where the fenders meet the door. The 33s just barely cleared and I cut all but half an inch off where the fenders meet the door.
Hi, thanks for this video! I decided to order the same kit for my van after watching your video. What springs did you use though? And did they add any lift as well or was the lift all from the spacer? Thx, Dave
I just use some OEM Springs. The ones that were on there before the lift kit we're worn out. So I figured replacing them while I was there would probably give me a little bit of an extra lift.
I'll be doing a video in the next couple of weeks, now that I have the interior together. I'll be posting pictures of the before and the video walkthrough of it now. So make sure you subscribe!
With the full kit installed the rear will be slightly taller than the front this is to make up for towing. I use mine to take my race cars to the track so this is good for me, but if you don't intend on using it for towing you may want to finish the front and then see how it looks without the rear blocks installed.
Hey dude I did a similar job on my 96 f250 and i had a hell of a time aligning it due to the bullshit twin I beam design. What about you? By the way I'm looking forward to the lifted element video.
Yeah man, the twin beam setup makes it difficult. You gotta have it supported from underneath before you remove the bolt and using the new bolt to push out the old one made it a lot easier.
Oh, I didn't have too much trouble. Before doing the swap, I had already Installed camber adjusters for the front and i basically rebuilt the whole front end before doing the lift kit.
Unfortunately no I do not. But it was definitely extremely large I don't know if it's something you could find at a home Depot or Lowe's. The only thing I could recommend if you're trying to piece together a set by yourself would be to pull the existing one out and get one two to three inches longer.
@@13sGARAGE Thank you. I got the screws fron trucks auto parts. They have any size that you need. With the appropriate strength. Home depots screws are only for small jobs. But thank you. I like your video.
@@iohannsantamarina3609 it is actually better then it was stock, but that's probably because I replaced my shocks and a few other worn out suspension parts. but as far as drivability its perfect. Even when towing cars around it has no problems.
@@13sGARAGE Thank you for all the info. Fordpartsone.com was the only one for the E350 that I've found. Weldtec designs make a nice one but to much money
@@iohannsantamarina3609 No problem if you got any more questions let me know. And yeah I would have loved to get one of those 4 or 6" lifts But they cost almost double what I paid for the Van And I cannot justify paying that much.
lol, you got me. that's what the van looks like now. i recorded this before painting it and fabricating the front bash/brush guard. if you like to see more of the van and the work ive do to it let me know ill make some other videos on it.
@@13sGARAGE for sure would love to see the van. There are no van build videos that aren’t 4x4 or lived in . No offense, I live in my van too. Just like to see cool van builds. I hope to get out a couple on my van in the future. Thanks for sharing.
Cool video, but no f'ing way. I would never trust that with the potholes I hit. That bolt looks like a Grade 5 at best. Ford's factory bolt is a Grade 8, if not, a hint of spring steel similar to their head bolts. I would fear those bolts would sheer in time. Plus, the rinky dink adapter, it looks like that is supposed to serve as the nut. But I'm glad you put the factory nut on, but it doesn't leave you with much thread. No locking nut, plenty of room for failure with vibration. If I did this on my own, it would be from an industrial supply house with a Grade 8 ship bolt, the full length I need, with either several thick fender washers to make up the height I need, or a solid block of steel with a hole drilled in the center and a Grade 8 locking nut, then the spring keeper. You did a great video, but the product looks Chinese. I couldn't imagine putting this on my 9000 lb '99 E350 or even my lighter '07 E350 passenger van. Honestly, I wouldn't even trust it in a 150. I'd just use Moog 880 coil springs on a 150 to give it a 2" lift. 2 inches is all you can get without major modifications like heat treated bent I-beams. I've been doing these 4th gen E series for 20 years. But video was good, product "zero".
@@13sGARAGE those are not that great. I've got 6" lift with stock camber bushings. Had a 2" with camber bushings and it was a challenge. The camber bushings are a bandaid
@@scottstone8446 I've used them on multiple vehicles and never had an issue some vehicles even have them stock from the factory. Not too sure how you think they're a Band-Aid. I'm just saying I had no problems at all aligning this vehicle, it's been close to a year since I did the lift and I've taken it on multiple road/off-road trips including a 20 hour round trip to the PA mountains. Zero issues.
I've 3 friends who have done the Moog Springs with Adjustable Camber kits..combined I'm guessing they have 90,000 + miles, and their vans drive and are aligned just fine. They all go off road( just trails) towing bikes ,UTVs etc . Unless you are trying to off-road a 8000 lb 2WD Van...to it's maximum potential...There's NO NEED to spen $5000.00 + for a Weldtec or a Camberg kit. The high end kits realistically only work to their potential when "combined with a Locking rear differential" ..So there's another 2k w install. now your looking at $8000.00 !! and guess what...your still @2WD....NO MATTER WHAT .. Try off-roading in any sand deeper than 4-8" for any extended period and ...your gonna bury it .real quick. I know, I live in the desert & I have a Camberg kit with a limited slip rear differential...While the rear end does wonders! It still can get stuck quite easily if you don't stay outta soft stuff. FACT! The REAR END NOT A $ expensive LIFT KIT. is what allows you to go off-road! Don't forget that👍 For the average Joe, there's nothing wrong with the Moog Springs or Spacers....for average dirt roads or hard packed trails. You can laugh all the way to the bank, save 7-8k ..put that in your savings account, or buy a couple off-road toys to pull behind your vans. Just be practical...and realize. That these are only 2wD..driven carefully they will get you to most places you need to be. Even the High end kits w a locker are only going to get ya so far ..anything even bordering on serious..your gonna need 4wd. If I ever get another van. It's going to be Moog Springs & camber kits...7 ways till next Sunday👌🙂 That's 2" of lift, w 2" taller tires ...you get 4" if basic lift....can't complain for the price...just don't abuse it . KNOW YOUR MACHINES LIMITS ..PERIOD👍
@@davidevans1128 What moog springs and camber kits did they use? Were they lift springs? I can’t find lift springs for my 2009 on their website. There are also a LOT of different camber kits with different degrees adjustment. Do you know which works with how much lift? Thanks for any help.
That’s cool! I got a class B RV on the 2006 350 Econoline chassis and saw on the kit website that the kits not for RVs. I wonder why. I need more clearance. I like the 3” kit. Thanks for a nice video
I'm working on my van DY and this video certainly provide me lot's of information that I need.
glad you find my video helpful, let me know if you have any questions. thanks for watching!
I just installed this spacer lift on my 2012 E-350. Had the front end alignment done but it seems that the steering wheel does not self center like it used to and the steering is slightly darty. I'm thinking that the radius arms are now too much of an angle so I've lost some camber. Has anyone else experienced this? I think I may need to fab up some drop down brackets for the radius arm rear mounts.
20,000+ views and 300+ likes later and this video is still my most watched, liked and commented on video. Thank you everyone for your continued support if you guys have any other questions or would like to see any new videos with this van or any of my other projects please let me know. -Thirteen
Shit, that was a lot simpler, clearer and easier to learn than I expected. Thank you. 😊
I just bought the same kit. Any idea the largest wheel/tire size I can install with out cutting anything?
honestly.... no. you'll have to do some experimenting or see what others have done. but I don't think you'll be able to go much bigger then oem without cutting because of the front tires turn radius. i will say before the lift i was running 28 or 29s without any issues.
Nice, great info and really like the van build. I am wondering did you really need to cut the fenders like that to not rub or did you just want that look? I am looking into doing a similar setup as far as lift and looking at tire options and would love to just throw 33s on but would like to do only minor trimming so not sure if that would be possible or just stick with a smaller size maybe about 31.5" (265/75/16) or 32".
To fit 33s like on my van trimming the fenders or replacing them with aftermarket ones will 100% be necessary Especially close to where the fender meets the doors.
did youi need a alignment after ??
I already had an adjustable camber kit on the front. So I just adjusted it as far out as I could. But yes an alignment would be highly recommended.
Thanks for your video brother and truly help my brother's van I got a van of my own it's a 1999 3/4 ton I want to do a 4-in lift on it two-wheel drive what do you think?
You're very welcome and thank you for the feedback. 4in lift kits for the Econoline Vans are very expensive. Due to the twin I-beam suspension in the front 2in is really the most you can do unless you're willing to spend $3,000 to $4,000.
Thanks for the info I am going to do the 2 inch on the front you're right it is pretty expensive to do a 4-inch or a 6-inch Lift. Thanks again for all your videos.
Good vid! Whats those rubber parts called you replaced prior to the top hat?
I believe they were called spring dampeners. But it might be called something different depending on where you get the parts
Did you upgrade your shock
Thanks for your comment, I installed new OEM shocks
I just put this lift on my 2011 E250 and was thinking of putting bilstein 5100s on it. Do you think that's too much shock?
@@Tstreetscb72 it honestly depends on what you're using the van for. I go on some dirt trails, but mostly use my van for towing. So I just used OEM shocks
@13GARAGE You're the man, thank you.
How long was the bolt that came with the lift kit because mine did not come with one
Not sure on the length it's been over a year since I did this video. If you purchase the same lift kit I did the bolt should have come with it, if not I would contact them.
Good video. I'm going to do this 2'' lift and trim the fender also at the bottom, now that i see 33's clear easy. I may end up running 275/65/20's (34'') street tire. How about adding 1/2 or 1'' body lift?
The issue isn't so much the height that you cut the front fenders it's how close the tires are to where the fenders meet the door. The 33s just barely cleared and I cut all but half an inch off where the fenders meet the door.
@@13sGARAGE Ok, Right on. Was lookn closer at mine earlier. Right at the bottom bolt about is where imat start. I'll just run 275/60/20's (33'') also.
What did yous say to Replace for $10. @ 5:10
The little rubber silencers that does spring sit on
Where did you buy yours I can't find them anywhere
@@Tstreetscb72 I think I picked mine up from advance Auto parts
Hi, thanks for this video! I decided to order the same kit for my van after watching your video. What springs did you use though? And did they add any lift as well or was the lift all from the spacer? Thx, Dave
I just use some OEM Springs. The ones that were on there before the lift kit we're worn out. So I figured replacing them while I was there would probably give me a little bit of an extra lift.
What was your process on blacking out the bumpers and grille/headlight housing ? I have the same type and am thinking about ways to go about it
I didn't do anything with the headlight housing, but the bash bar and everything else I just spray painted black.
Do you have wheel spacers, or is it just the width of your 33s sticking out more?
2 inch spacers
I dig your tube bumper & skid plate. Where can I get one? Did you make it? I have a stop sign that would make a nice skid plate lol
Yeap, just made it with some leftover roll cage tubing I had laying around.
@@13sGARAGE Fantastic! I’m going to have my son make me one like it. Hope you don’t mind me copying it!
@@coolchange1970 Not at all, I'd be honored in fact.
Nice job.
Did you go with longer shocks? If yes what did you use?
OEM shocks and no modifications where necessary.
I know this is old but did you change your rear end gear ratio when going to the 33's?
i did not, the E250s have pretty good rear ends. going on 3 years now and with over 300,000 miles on body I've had no issues. knock on wood.
No before and after stance pics to compare?
I'll be doing a video in the next couple of weeks, now that I have the interior together. I'll be posting pictures of the before and the video walkthrough of it now. So make sure you subscribe!
The manufacturer should include this video in the "how to" instructions they provide
Maybe I should see if they'll post a link on their website 🤣
Did the rear blocks keep it level? Some have said adding them offset the stance?
With the full kit installed the rear will be slightly taller than the front this is to make up for towing. I use mine to take my race cars to the track so this is good for me, but if you don't intend on using it for towing you may want to finish the front and then see how it looks without the rear blocks installed.
@@13sGARAGE I also use mine for my business pulling equipment..so thanks that helped.
Can you tell is where u got the rear blocks and u bolts?
It comes as a kit. The link is in the description.
@@13sGARAGE thanks!
Hey man did you have to trim anything in the back to fit the 33” tires?
No sir. I only had to trim the front for turn radius
What kind of wheels are you running?
285/75/16 stock rims
Are those grade 8 bolts?
I don't recall seeing any grade markings on the heads so I'm going to assume they are not.
Hey dude I did a similar job on my 96 f250 and i had a hell of a time aligning it due to the bullshit twin I beam design. What about you? By the way I'm looking forward to the lifted element video.
Yeah man, the twin beam setup makes it difficult. You gotta have it supported from underneath before you remove the bolt and using the new bolt to push out the old one made it a lot easier.
@@13sGARAGEyea i mean the wheel alignment after the kit is installed because of axis once it's lifted.
Oh, I didn't have too much trouble. Before doing the swap, I had already Installed camber adjusters for the front and i basically rebuilt the whole front end before doing the lift kit.
Hi. Do you know the size of the screw?
Unfortunately no I do not. But it was definitely extremely large I don't know if it's something you could find at a home Depot or Lowe's. The only thing I could recommend if you're trying to piece together a set by yourself would be to pull the existing one out and get one two to three inches longer.
@@13sGARAGE
Thank you. I got the screws fron trucks auto parts. They have any size that you need. With the appropriate strength. Home depots screws are only for small jobs. But thank you. I like your video.
How does it ride with the lift kit?
great, I've had zero issues with ride quality/comfort
Any different between the stock ride? Thank you
@@iohannsantamarina3609 it is actually better then it was stock, but that's probably because I replaced my shocks and a few other worn out suspension parts. but as far as drivability its perfect. Even when towing cars around it has no problems.
@@13sGARAGE Thank you for all the info. Fordpartsone.com was the only one for the E350 that I've found. Weldtec designs make a nice one but to much money
@@iohannsantamarina3609 No problem if you got any more questions let me know. And yeah I would have loved to get one of those 4 or 6" lifts But they cost almost double what I paid for the Van And I cannot justify paying that much.
Hey thanks nice video
glad to help boss
Should have made the rear end video
@@ivancaravantes2 yeah looking back I wish I did. But that was back when my UA-cam channel is new and editing took me a long time.
I liked the skid plate click bate .
lol, you got me. that's what the van looks like now. i recorded this before painting it and fabricating the front bash/brush guard. if you like to see more of the van and the work ive do to it let me know ill make some other videos on it.
@@13sGARAGE for sure would love to see the van. There are no van build videos that aren’t 4x4 or lived in . No offense, I live in my van too. Just like to see cool van builds. I hope to get out a couple on my van in the future.
Thanks for sharing.
@@bigtsperspective5831 i agree, love seeing custom vans. i use mine for work and i live in it for weekends at the track.
@@13sGARAGE it might be the best galvanized tent you ever have. I’m always looking for good ideas . I liked the bumper. Stealth!
Cool video, but no f'ing way. I would never trust that with the potholes I hit. That bolt looks like a Grade 5 at best. Ford's factory bolt is a Grade 8, if not, a hint of spring steel similar to their head bolts. I would fear those bolts would sheer in time. Plus, the rinky dink adapter, it looks like that is supposed to serve as the nut. But I'm glad you put the factory nut on, but it doesn't leave you with much thread. No locking nut, plenty of room for failure with vibration. If I did this on my own, it would be from an industrial supply house with a Grade 8 ship bolt, the full length I need, with either several thick fender washers to make up the height I need, or a solid block of steel with a hole drilled in the center and a Grade 8 locking nut, then the spring keeper. You did a great video, but the product looks Chinese. I couldn't imagine putting this on my 9000 lb '99 E350 or even my lighter '07 E350 passenger van. Honestly, I wouldn't even trust it in a 150. I'd just use Moog 880 coil springs on a 150 to give it a 2" lift. 2 inches is all you can get without major modifications like heat treated bent I-beams. I've been doing these 4th gen E series for 20 years. But video was good, product "zero".
220 ft Lbs torque
Good info! thanks for posting it boss
You kno u could just put the prerunner fenders on instead of cutting the fender
true, but why spend $500 when i can cut it for free?
@@13sGARAGE true true.
What size wheels tires!
@@mikepierce1250 285/75/16 stock rims
Have fun aligning it. Get the WeldTec kit with the bent I beams
Had no problem aligning it, just got some camber alignment bushings off eBay. Thanks for the comment though.
@@13sGARAGE those are not that great. I've got 6" lift with stock camber bushings. Had a 2" with camber bushings and it was a challenge. The camber bushings are a bandaid
@@scottstone8446 I've used them on multiple vehicles and never had an issue some vehicles even have them stock from the factory. Not too sure how you think they're a Band-Aid. I'm just saying I had no problems at all aligning this vehicle, it's been close to a year since I did the lift and I've taken it on multiple road/off-road trips including a 20 hour round trip to the PA mountains. Zero issues.
I've 3 friends who have done the Moog Springs with Adjustable Camber kits..combined I'm guessing they have 90,000 + miles, and their vans drive and are aligned just fine. They all go off road( just trails) towing bikes ,UTVs etc .
Unless you are trying to off-road a 8000 lb 2WD Van...to it's maximum potential...There's NO NEED to spen $5000.00 + for a Weldtec or a Camberg kit.
The high end kits realistically only work to their potential when "combined with a Locking rear differential" ..So there's another 2k w install. now your looking at $8000.00 !! and guess what...your still @2WD....NO MATTER WHAT .. Try off-roading in any sand deeper than 4-8" for any extended period and ...your gonna bury it .real quick.
I know, I live in the desert & I have a Camberg kit with a limited slip rear differential...While the rear end does wonders! It still can get stuck quite easily if you don't stay outta soft stuff.
FACT! The REAR END NOT A $ expensive LIFT KIT. is what allows you to go off-road!
Don't forget that👍
For the average Joe, there's nothing wrong with the Moog Springs or Spacers....for average dirt roads or hard packed trails. You can laugh all the way to the bank, save 7-8k ..put that in your savings account, or buy a couple off-road toys to pull behind your vans.
Just be practical...and realize. That these are only 2wD..driven carefully they will get you to most places you need to be. Even the High end kits w a locker are only going to get ya so far ..anything even bordering on serious..your gonna need 4wd.
If I ever get another van. It's going to be Moog Springs & camber kits...7 ways till next Sunday👌🙂
That's 2" of lift, w 2" taller tires ...you get 4" if basic lift....can't complain for the price...just don't abuse it . KNOW YOUR MACHINES LIMITS ..PERIOD👍
@@davidevans1128 What moog springs and camber kits did they use? Were they lift springs? I can’t find lift springs for my 2009 on their website. There are also a LOT of different camber kits with different degrees adjustment. Do you know which works with how much lift? Thanks for any help.