Haven't tried them yet but I'm keen to try out the Tarkine range, which falls into a similar vein as Topos, Altras, etc. They are a newish Aussie brand with an eco edge :)
I watched the video interview you did on footwear a little while back and it got me to check out Topos! I was really excited to find that they offer a couple styles that are light stability shoes, which I have always needed as an overpronater, but is seldom offered in a trail runner. I got a pair of their Traverses and have been really impressed! I love the Altra toe box but haven’t been able to find a style of Altras that doesn’t give me major foot pain - the medial support of the Traverse combined with the wide toe box has been an absolute game changer. They also have an insole that’s designed to shed water and help the shoe dry faster - haven’t had a chance to hike in conditions that would test that yet, but I’m excited to see how they do when I get them out in wetter conditions. I’ve been living in these shoes for the last few weeks and have gotten a few pain-free hikes in them - they are tentatively my new favorite shoe!
I'm with you. The quality of Altra shoes has gone down in the past two years not to mention they keep changing the width of their shoes. 3 months ago I switched over to Topo trail runners.. I love them for all the reasons you mentioned. Yes, a little pricey but my Altras wore out way too fast, so in the long run Topos are a better buy.
Totally with you on this, Darwin. I'm on my second pair of Topo Pursuits, and I've got a pair of their road shoes too. One factor you didn't mention is that they are a little more snug in the mid foot, so they don't feel as sloppy as the Altras do. Altra revolutionized hiking footwear, and kudos to them for that. But unless they do something to fix the durability issue, I probably won't look back. Thanks for the review!
Great piece of info! I want more space for my toes, but after wasting money on two different pairs of altras only to realize my foot turns inside the shoe and squishes my toes worse than a shoe that stabilizes the mid foot. I will look for these and give them a try!
@laurasanders6071 What Topo road shoe do you like? Torin Altra 4 was near perfect for me and their revisions have been disappointing. Interested in what's worked for you. Thanks!
@@miksmi I've been using their zero-drop ST-4 for road walking and gym. It's light but stable. It looks like they now have moved on to ST-5, which has a slightly lower stack height and a zipfoam midsole. I'll give those a try when my ST-4s wear out.
@@laurasanders6071 ST-5 wasn't even on my radar 👏👏REI and local (Maryland) running stores don't stock this. What's your go-to b&m or online store? //rant on Why oh why aren't we allowed to have comparison charts with product features like drop, stack height, midsole material, etc.? C'mon manufacturers, enginerds are people, too; we want the deets! (No offense to any engineers in the crowd.)
European Topofanatic here. First at al : been watching your channel for years, thanks a lot for inspiring me to do longer hikes here. I've got the Ultraventure 2 , Pro and 3 . I have tried Altra and zero-drop shoes ( Timps 4) and was not happy : the shoes were splitting after a mere 200 km and zero drop was messing with my achilles.Gues who was waring Timps at that time.😄 After trying different brans (Asic , Brooks, North Face etc...) i wend for Topo. My ( discontinued) Ultraventure 2 clocked over 1000 km. The Pro is in the same state as your Pursuits and has +- 500 km ( i use these only in rocky terrain) . The new 3's are at 300 km and counting (most confy and best ventilating ). I still use the 2's for dayhiking because there is still life in them. You can also change the insole for Sportiva one's , they are from the same manufacture , they are as confy but dry quicker and whem you buy them 1/2 size smaller they slip a bit in the shoe = no blisters. I don't use gaiters so no problem for me. Some strange thing : the toe box is not the same : Pro smaller than the2's and the 3's are the widest.
Hey What's up Darwin? When I saw this video crop up, I was immediately interested. I have been on the Altra Lone Peak bandwagon for the last 5 years. When I look back, my longevity has been about 6 months on each pair. After seeing your review, I decided to try a pair. Headed out to REI and purchased a pair of TOPO's. I bought the UltraVenture4. One month in, I am officially converted. I can truly see the amount of comfort that I was never quite getting with the Altra's. I have been in your corner since you suggested the Enlightened Equipment Torrid jacket. I have worn that thing out. It has been my go to for a long time. Keep up the great work!!
It isn't just Altra - Merrell is having issue too, usually the uppers and soles last long after the 'spring' and cushion is gone, but the last pair of Merrell shoes I bought the upper started to fall apart just doing light stuff around the farm.
The excessive toe-spring is my biggest issue with Topos. The toebox is just curved too much which makes it feel like a snowshoe. It's fine while on the move but standing, sitting, or driving in Topos just makes me wish I could switch to a normal flat shoe.
Important fact omitted from this video is that the tongue for Topo pursuits is sown on the sides which prevents the show from expanding fitting wider feet. The tongue on line peaks and spaadgoats is only attached at the end. The show is free to expand.
@@DarwinOnthetrail Yah it’s gotten ridiculous. Currently enjoying hokas but have always been curious about topo as well. Interestingly, topo has a new shoe, the “traverse”, specifically built for long distance hiking with durability in mind but still has a trail runner fit and feel. Seems appealing to me.
@@mattgross7726 They do end of season sales like that, yes, but the official msrp and typically the price throughout most of the year is $150. Even at $90, the altras still present a lower "miles to dollar" value than topo.
The last set of Lone Peaks I bought was back in March and they were about $135 at REI. Getting something much more durable at the same price point seems like a no brainer. I'm definitely going to look at the Topos. @DarwinOnthetrail is who turned me onto the Lone Peaks in the first place and I was amazed when I first tried them to the point of Lone Peaks are the only athletic type of shoe that I buy (the zero drop is life changing).
I wear Topo Ultraventures now, since I also decided that the durability of Altra shoes is no longer acceptable. I highly recommend Kahtoola Instagaiters instead of the proprietary Topo gaiters. The Kahtoola gaiters are universally compatible and are designed really well overall.
Have been using Topo MTN racer 2 for over a year. Bought them on sale for +-$100 and I see they are currently on sale for $99. Very comfortable with 30mm stack, decent durability. The Vibram outsole started breaking a bit but I run a lot on rocks and concrete sections, so to be expected.
Got a pair, wanted to love them but found out the mid foot was way too narrow, probably being that I’m a 2E. After my foot going through that level of pain I found out that these companies that brand themselves with the wide toe box aren’t the end all be all for wide footers like me. Glad you were able to enjoy them though!
I'm a 4E (according to the Redwing store computer analysis)... but I can comfortably wear New Balance 990 series in 2E. I ordered Topos this year... 4 pair... not a one of them fit my foot. When I was young I had a narrow foot and all was nice in the shoe department. Currently, I have a pair of Altra Lone Peaks in wide and it fits okay. Note: you can definitely see my foot bulgjng out of it. So if the youth of today is wearing narrow shoes, let's just say due to age. Do you think these "kids" will swear brand loyalty if no one is there for them in the long haul. NB knows they will always have my money, Merrill too. But I want to be o. The PCT and experience a brand like Topo. Back them and brag to high heaven how I love them and why. It would be great to have all 4 pair of Topo models I bought in at least 2E, even as a custom order. Inatead I made a.lame video of my first time in their shoes and I swapped through them all in a matter of minutes (needs to be on my ready to launch new YT channel). The goal was to put on my first pair and go hike and provide live feedback onto my PCT FB page... but when the first kne didnt work I swapped to pair #2... which I thought would work ... this repeated until I was back in my Lone Peaks. Topo was great though... they paid for retrun shipping from Oahu... so talking bad about the company is somethjng I can only due from the standpoint of their variety of shoes for the variety of peolle qith a variety of foot sizes/widths. It did suck for me though... it was like my childhood football hero had let me down. 2024 PCT is coming and I havent figured out a shoe yet... I do have Altra on speed dial though. Dream shoes: rock plate, size 11, 2E-4E, not waterproof... (waterproof models all keep water out until they don't... then they are great at keeping water in). By my testing... the non waterproof models have seemed to have dried quicker.
Wide feet need wide shoes. You see this all the time with people buying altras thinking they're wide, then blowing out the sidewalls. They make actual wide versions for wide feet. Their normal width shoes aren't wider than other brands, they're just not pointy.
Thank you for the video and recommendation. I'm 65 and have been hiking for many years since the boy scouts. Not nearly as many miles as you have and I enjoy your insight. I used the Topo Ultraventure and Trailventure, both 5 mil drop. Love both of them. I use an 8 mil drop, so I went with the Brooks Cascadia. Love that shoe. I have also used the New Balance Hierro but I don't like the tongue in them that slides down, on my foot. Thanks again.
I’ve had many lone peaks over my years backpacking, hiking, running and camping. My biggest complaint has always been that they wear out so fast I’m very happy to hear there is another option that is better! Definitely buying TOPOs for my next shoe
The Topos wear out too - I’ve had some last 300km and some last 750km, just as I’ve also had with Altras. Please don’t make your decision based on someone’s UA-cam video - this is 11minutes of him expressing nothing other than his personal preference.
I generally agree with you. I own the lone peaks and the pursuits. I find that the altra’s are softer and bigger. The pursuits are firmer and run a little smaller for me. I haven’t worn the Pursuits out yet at only 160mi. I have put 2k miles on Lone Peaks.
So I caught a guy’s video on YT his channel is “Believe in the Run”. He was at the Austin trade show big running show. He has a video with the Altra rep. He’s showing the new stuff for 2024 for Altra. With the whole durability issues with Altra I found it interesting this rep mentioned all three of the biggest gripes being addressed through out the video. The mesh in the toes falling apart, the lugs coming off, and the midsole flattening out were all touched on and according to the rep, steps have been taken in 2024 to address these things. So we shall see. Plus….They actually dropped the prices of some of their shoes. The Lone Peak is one of those. $150 down to $140
Good to hear. I hope it's true. I tried Topos a while ago. They were very slow to dry compared with Altra Lone Peaks; still squelchy in the mornings, even with the insoles out overnight. I also didn't like the foam collar around the opening. Altras just fit me better.
Thanks for the detailed review. I’ve been in lone peaks for years and finding the same for their durability. Nothing beats the Olympus high tops I have for winter wear though. Winter boots that are foot shaped were a huge problem for me here in Canada. Need something warm down to -40 that didn’t destroy my toes.
I'm a new-ish hiker/backpacker. I first bought Lone Peaks because everyone said to, but found i really needed more cushioning, and the zero drop didn't work for me. The Olympus didn't really fit me; the Timps felt good, but i was starting to hear reports about the durability issues. I started reading about the Topos in various forums. I ended up buying the Ultraventure Pro, which i think is most similar to aTimp with a rock plate, and absolutely love them. I swear that angels sing whenever i wear them! I also bought the Trailventure WPs for winter, as i prefer boots and some waterproofing during the rainy PNW winters that i hike in, and i love those, too. I'm definitely a Topo convert!
I did some off trail hiking in the Sierra this summer and my Lone Peaks didn't feel grippy enough. I tried a pair of Topos (can't remember the name) and a pair of Salomon Speedcross. The Topos were too "in the middle", meaning I lost the full benefit of the width of Altra's toe box and no 0 foot drop, but they also weren't as grippy as the Salomons. Grippiness won out and I went with the Salomons and felt very secure. The Topo Pursuits sound like they might be a good option to try (once everything I have wears out, lol) cuz I would like a very grippy shoe that is 0 drop, and being more durable that Altras is another plus. Thanks for the review!
Nice to see you posting videos like this again. I started using the Lone Peak 3.5's on your recommendation & been with them ever since. In the UK we have deep discounts after the initial 3-4 month period where I can pickup Lone Peaks for £75, so it makes it cost effective but I hate waste and I hate the crappy rubber they use. Will flip when I can get a good price
Super helpful review! I just bought my first pair of Topo’s, but got the terraventure 4 after a year of hiking on 6 pair of Hoka’s. Before that, I was an Altra fan. Didn’t care for how fast the lugs wore down on Altra’s. I hike in very rugged, rocky Arizona and the vibram soles are just necessary.
I‘m gonna buy a pair of these asap. I started using the Timp 3 because of your reviews, and gosh I loved those. Replaced them regularily after 700 miles or so only because I thought the cushioning was getting thinner. Nothing else broke. Now they don‘t produce them anymore and I‘m on a friggin 600 mile hike with 2 (!) pairs of Timp 4, switching them out from time to time (wearing different colors on each foot lol) because the heel stuffing is falling apart! Gosh I hate it if shoes that expensive don‘t even last 300 miles. On a side note my dirty girl gaiters are definitely shredded, need to buy new gaiters anyways, but I really do hate it when they do not allow you to use your own gaiters (at least the hokas have plenty of space to attach a piece of velcro)
I love topos! I thru hiked the PCT and AZT in their original ultraventures. Since then, I've been trail running in the pursuits (which I love), but just recently got a pair of their new shoes, the Traverse, to train in for an upcoming CDT attempt. I'm really hoping that these are going to be the perfect thru hiking shoe for me with the addition of a springier insole and added rockplate. Seriously stoked on topos!
Same as many. I’m on my 2nd pair of topo pursuits. It’s everything I wanted from my six previous lone peaks. They hold up. They look great doing it. They feel good -all day comfort. They handle my heal the way I wished Altra would…sized as you’d expect. Winner!
I have the Topo Trailventure 2. I LOVE them! I like my shoes laced up snug, and the lacing lock system enables me to have my lace tension on my instep to be different than the tension on my ankle/upper.
After seeing one of your earlier videos about your Topos, I decided to get a pair. Thankfully, our local outfitter carried them and I found the perfect pair for me. I have been told I have Fred Flintstone feet and with the toebox being wider, I have never been more comfortable, not only on the trail, but any time I know I'm going to be on my feet for a long time. Thank you for this, I doubt I would've found these if I hadn't seen you talking about them.
I purchased a pair of Topo Ultraventure just before Christmas and initially was not in love with them, but I switched out the insoles for My prescription ones and now they fit like a glove. I have loved them to death, but the tops still look fair, but the bottom lugs are worn down. I have around 500 + miles on them and I'm trading them in for a pair of Pursuits. Looking forward to using those to train for the AT in the spring
I was thinking same thing today ,as I'm doing a 45 through hike in Indiana Tecumseh trail matter of fact , been wearing lone peak 7s and decided to get a pair of topo ultra adventure 3 , and topos are now my new favorite shoe .
I have had several Lone Peaks. Unfortunately I have 2 pairs of the most recent Lone Peak 8 and they both have issues with the toe cap peeling up. Super disappointed but. I will say their warranty is rock solid and they have honored them both. Might need to give the Topo a try next
Great review. I've been a Topo fan for years now, trail and road shoes are great for me. You hit it on the head about overall quality of Topo shoes. Once I found Topo, left Altra and haven't look back.
My last two trips to the Appalachian Trail, I’ve used Topo Mnt Racer 1 & 2’s. I thought about switching to Hoka’s but I feel I’m gonna get a pair of the Pursuits. I know what I like and Topo’s have been amazing. I’ve hiked in the Canyon lands of Utah with my Topo’s and the grip is unsurpassable!!
I am a huge brand jumper who goes back and forth all the time when it comes to the outdoors and I've bought them all.......Salomon, Keen, Hoka, NorthFace , Merrell, Oboz ,and more, but the Altra Lone Peaks trully saved my life. No more Plantar Fasciitis, no more corns, no more blisters, no more rashes , no more Achilles heel pain or shin splints and because they are lightweight and airy, no odor issues.I don't know what people are complaining about? They are a super shoe and very durable.Yes, eventually they fail from enough abuse because after all , they are made of lightweight man-made materials.Tactical boots wear out too and they don't weigh 11 onces either.They are not over priced either and you can stock up and buy older styles at the end of the year. I can work two jobs in them,hike, bike, go to the gym, play Frisbee golf, wear them 14 hours a day and they last for months and I never have foot pain ever.I go to outdoor stores and running stores to buy my Altras and the only criticism I have is if you like a particular crazy color combination you have to act quickly because you might not get the pink/Navy/gray/orange ones you've been eyeing that quarter because you procrastinated.I would like to also add that zero drop is such a lifesaver that any one that is heavier and wanting to start a program to definitely buy zero drop shoes to train in.Once you experience zero drop you will never go back.I remember the days before I discovered Altras, like the day a doctor had huge needles for the injections for my heels because I could barely walk.By wearing Altras I can go hard all day being a two hundred and fifty pound guy and no foot pain.
I don't know what version of the Lone Peaks you have but they are getting worse every year. I thought the my Lone Peak 6 didn't last long at all. Very poorly made. They are discounting the Lone Peak 7s now because no one is buying them. I won't buy them even at the discounted price. If I ever hear they are durable again, I might switch back
dude, Zero drop shoes are HORRIBLE for overweight people. you will end up with more injuries to your foot with zero drop shoes if you are overweight. they are intended for people that are lightweight and in shape. you will destroy your feet if you are overweight and out of shape and use zero drop shoes.
Yep We also kicked Altra to the curb in 2021 for our AT thru.. VASTLY better traction on wet rocks also.. Salute Darwin.. hope to run into you again someday on a trail.. VINTAGE HIKERS
Thanks for the review Pigeon. I have been an Altra guy for years. I tried the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2 but the rand and outsole delaminated on my first outing. I had no problem returning them but haven’t tried another Topo Athletic trail runner. With that said I have a pair of Topo Athletic Ultrafly 3’s that have held up quite well. Mixed results on my end with Topo Athletic. I still love my Altra Olympus 5’s for all things on the trail. When they die, maybe I’ll try these Pursuits.
I'm on my second pair of Topo running shoes. Had my first pair for about 2 years. $140.00 is a fair price for me considering how great they feel and how long they last. Great video. I hope they make the Pursuit in a midhigh,
As soon as I saw the gaiters in the intro it's what caught me as a disadvantage on their side.. Let's see with more people talking about it, the might change it up.. Thanks for the review!
You should give the Topo Traverse a go next. Topo created them specifically for thru-hikes and long haul trail hikes. 5mm drop - 30mm heel/25mm toe. New closed cell FKT insole locks water out and it's beaded to drain off water. Does have a rock plate.
I agree, regarding the insoles. Topo seems to engineer in quite a bit of arch into their footbed, and it doesn't play well with most insoles as it changes their shape. I use Superfeet carbon insoles in all my shoes, but with the Topo's I've just been running the stock insoles, as the resultant arch shape is fairly similar to when I use Superfeet insoles in my shoes that have a flat footbed.
Ordered a pair of Topo's to compare to my LonePeak Ultra's. When I got them I took 5 steps in them and put them back in the box and shipped them back. They, like a lot of shoes these days, have created a weird topography built into the sole of their shoe for arch support. I guess I have low arches because with the Topos on with every step I could feel them pushing into arches. No thanks. The LonePeak Ultra's have a simple, old school sole that works perfectly for those that don't need built in arch support, i.e. zero-drop shoes. I just got back from doing 500 miles thru the desert section of the PCT with my Ultra's and I had NO foot issues at all. Along the way I replaced the insoles with some much more comfy Doctor Scholl insoles and wow, the shoe was transformed and made even better. I was able to hike 20+ miles per day and my feet never got sore (which was first for me). Just wished the ULtra's had a Vibram-like sole.
Spot on review. I LOVE Topos! The Timp 1.5s are the only Altra's that have been comparable to the many pairs of Topos I've worn (mostly Terraventure). I typically use the factory insoles for the first couple hundred miles before switching to Super feet insoles. The only factory insoles I've had experience with worth the name. I use REI gators, and have had no issues with function. As for price, the price difference is minimal compared to Altra's (in my experience), especially when the much greater durability is factored in. Another + for Topos over Altras in my experience is the much better heel cup fit. The Altras I've owned not only wore out in 200 miles but also did a bang-up job of taking off miles of use from my Darn tough socks because of heel movement. I'm glad to see Topos seeing wider spread use. I was getting worried for the future of this great company. 👍👍
I have really bad overpronation and I read on Reddit where a lot of people suggested these shoes with a solid insert right before I found this video. So I think I’ve really found my next hiking shoe!
I have men's NB MTMORBY2, 2E, and Lone Peak, 2E. I previously had the Speedgoat men's, 2E, but learn their latest iteration wasn't as wide so I didn't order any. I prefer the NB. I do have custom-made orthotics because of meratarsalgia and do better with more cushion and less or no heel drop. I've tried two kinds of men's Topos, but I had to return them because they weren't quite wide enough. You've given such a good review that I'll have to look back and see if the Pursuit was one of my choices. Hopefully not! I really love that color too. So many wide shoes are boring, ie gray, black, or white.
I've been wearing Altra for years and had hiked in some topos once on the PCT after a store in Ashland recommended them. I will be hiking the AZT next year wearing topos. I'm more than happy to pay the price if I can get more than 300 miles out of them. Altra just seems to wear out too quickly. I will still buy them for work, however for the trail I am hopeful the topos will be my new hiking shoes.
I had a joint replaced in my foot and the Altra Olympus have that extra cushioning that I haven’t been able to find anywhere else. Have never had sore foot in these even after 20+ mile days
i use my olympus alot, however the issue is instability on rocky terrain (35 mm stack height). with poles you can negate the issue, but without poles ive rolled an ankle and come close several times. they have lasted longer than my LP's....but giving the pursuit a try
@@roamsy I haven’t had an issue with the instability but I think they don’t last as long as they should, if I could find something with the same cushioning I’d give them a try. The cushioning after my surgery was a life saver.
Nice review of the Topo Pursuits, Darwin. I have worn both the Altra Lone Peak 7s and Topo Pursuits while backpacking and thru-hiking. In my experience I much prefer the Topos over the Altras; especially in regard to the grip provided by the Topos. On wet rocks and roots, I found the Altras to be downright dangerous in that they were constantly losing their grip and slipping, whereas the Topos seemed to stick to everything. Additionally, as some have already indicated, the Altras felt sloppy on my feet, which added to the feeling of instability I had while wearing them. With that said, I will note with my Topos, contrary to your experience, that the toe-wrap where the Vibrim sole wraps up onto the toe box, began to delaminate within the first 40 miles of a thru-hike. I saw this same issue on Topo Pursuits that others on the trail were wearing. I'm unaware if Topo has addressed this reliability concern or not. The bottom line for me, however, is I will be wearing Topos on my hikes in the future.
Pursuit is way too narrow for my toes foot and my pink toe was pushing against the fabric too much for comfort. I wanted to love it but just can't. However my terraventures have been pretty good but I also had the same durability issues I did on the lone peak 5's with a little more comfort
I’m older, need the padding and after Ultras hurt the bottom of my feet in the Sierra rocky trails where I live, I switched to Hokas. I can still day hike in Ultras, but anything overnight I’m grabbing the Hokas. I will say that after your video I may not have given them a fair chance as I did not use any additional insoles. I may try that with this brand as I appreciate what you said about their grip and durability.
Thanks for the video. All trail shoes are expensive in Australia. But I wait for sales and hope my size is available. I flipped from Salomon to Topo Ultraventure a few months ago for extra forefoot cushion. The sole is super grippy - great to trust shoes when rock hopping. Durability has been amazing - no signs of wear at all. Only issue for me was the shoe being wide at the heel. Put my Superfeet insole in and problem solved. I still feel the trail but don't feel like my feet are being battered. So maybe a Salomon killer too😂
Topo Terraventure. Was also on the 3 passes trail with them this October/November, and on Kilimanjaro in 2021. Their 3 mm drop doesn't harm, and I need the rock plate.
I've been planning to give Topo a try, but for right now, my go-to trail shoe is the Scarpa Spin Planet. Best all-rounder I've had in many years, and I've used it for both mountain races, and backpacking (in the Sierras and Winds). Just bought a second pair on-sale!
@@clementerosauro9127 No, the toebox of the Scarpas isn't as wide as the Topos. But, my feet are a little wide, and I always struggle with finding shoes that will work. Basically, my toes don't "taper" much (more kinda block-like :), so I need extra room for my pinky toes. And the Spin Planets have enough room for me, without having to size up (which causes other problems).
Rocked Pursuits from Damascus to Duncannon this year. I changed back to Altra’s strictly due to availability and honestly feel like I could’ve made it through Rocksylvania with those shoes. Guess I wigged out at the thought of the rocks. I’ve had the same pair of Terraventure 3’s for a few years now and despite everything I’ve put them through, they’re still solid. Additionally, I picked up a pair of the TV 4’s that we’re going to be my final pair on the AT right before I had to get off the trail. The 3’s were the most comfortable shoe I’d worn up to date, and the 4 feels about the same with a stronger toe cap. Loving them. To your gaiter comment, I glued the Velcro on pretty easily and wore my dirty girls the whole way. So 🤷🏻♂️
I had 5 pairs of lonepeaks and a year ago switched to the pursuits. I am on my 3rd pair of pursuits now. Sick of the fast wearing Altra grips and also they weren't very grippy. Plus the rock plate did nothing. The pursuits still fit wide in the toe but hug more in the mid foot. That took a little getting use to but feels good now. Agree the mid sole is great... No rock plate but better protection than the lone peak some how. Outsole has lasted ages and is fairly grippy. My left big toe has finally come through the top of my first pair of pursuits but they are really worn out after hiking and trail running for a year. I think it's my most perfect shoe to date. Only minor point is they squeek when wet when my foot slips on the inside material....the inside material is quite slippy anyway. Plus they have a proper heel cup unlike lonepeaks which are really saggy. Agree with your review. Nice one. I wait for the sales and try to get a few pounds off. I'm keeping with the Topo's. Sheffield England 🇬🇧. Cheers buddy.
Recently I bought a pair of Topo MTN racer 2. I am super new to running, just started this month.. I never run before.. so probably I make mistakes that cause this ..but I've noticed my feet tend to slide into the front while l am landing or downhill running. The shoes are a size bigger, I lace them tight ..but still I feel the toe touching the front after a moment of running. Other than that, much better quality when I compared them with Altra Olympus 5.
I've been using the Terraventures for a few years now. The beat the durability of ALTRA by a wide margin and in my opinion are more comfortable. You can find their shoes on sale at different times of the year from multiple outlets. Just be on the lookout and pull the trigger if you don't even need a new pair at the time. You will need them eventually.
I’ve been wearing Altra for around 5 years (Lone Peak, Olympus, Paradigm) and Topo Pursuit are not a direct swap for Altra Lone Peak. The toe box is smaller and the overall fit is tighter. I can wear Lone Peak straight from the box, while the Pursuit feel like they need to be stretched to achieve the same level of comfort. I was disappointed with them and will be going back to Altra.
Great review! As a trailrunner i use normaly Brooks (Catamount 2) and Hoka models. I have a pair of Lone Peak 5 for that nice toebox (recovery runs). But to be honest i never liked them because of 2 reasons. 1. The foam is low quality (as you said) 2. I hate the grip
Bought a pair of Topo Pursuits and they felt fantastic right out of the box. After a few days I noticed that my right foot started rolling inward a little bit - as if the insole had shifted but I couldn't confirm that. I put in a pair of Superfeet Green insoles and the combination was too high had too much arch. Still trying to figure it out and find a combination that will work for me. I do want to make them work. I have a couple of LP4's and an LP6 that I still use - sole wear has been the killer issue for me.
The lone peak has the most slippery outsole on allmost any surface. Can not use them for anything faster with uphill or downhill. Will definitely try these. Tried some topos (road shoes with 3mm drop) in the past but didn't really like the toe spring
After Backcountry Pilgrim did a review of the Topo Adventurer several months ago, I bought a pair on sale. The only dislike I have is the toe box is not as wide as the Altra Lone Peak. Other than that, they have out performed the Altras. Great review...
I got these last year and love them! They outlast any altras I ever owned by an unknown amount because I still havent got any holes in them. My altras all got holes before hitting 100 miles. I do wish they made a shoe with more aggressive tread for mud and snow. I hiked on snow last week and fell on my ass a few times. The altra lone peak and king mt treads do great on the same trail.
Just finished hiking 80 miles through Patagonia in Topo Pursuits and they were great! Great cushion so i didnt have any feet pain and durability was outstanding.
I've used multiple generations of the Topo Mtn Racers and one of their waterproof shoes for ultras on rough trails/peaks and really like them. The Vibram sole wears somewhat fast on the rocks, but nothing grips like these and I'm comparing them to the other climbing brand running shoes with grippy rubber (La Sportiva etc). Can handle snow and mud in the mountains dependably. Decent techy terrain mtn runner too, not sloppy in the mid-foot and still roomy in the toe box over the miles. The first set I had showed wear very fast in the first 150 miles or so, but then held out fine to my typical 300-400 miles usage. The lack of a rock plate means you feel the softening of the midsole on techy terrain more at ~250+ miles, but I'm a heavier runner at 180-190lbs. I really like that Topos offers several shoes with a spread of characteristics for different people without dumbing down the traction. So you can get a 0 or a 5mm drop, cushioned or thinner, neutral or light support, etc. Great brand!
After years of contentedly wearing full-on traditional boots, I decided to sip the trail runner Kool Aid ;) and tried out The One That Everyone Raved About, the Altra Lone Peak. I loved how light they were on my feet and I REALLY loved the wide toe box; I hated nearly everything else about them. The grip was . . . not very grippy; I was "meh" about the zero drop; and no matter how I laced them, they felt sloppy on my foot. Several times, while hiking in tricky spots, I ended up walking partly on the side of the shoe. It was like hiking in bedroom slippers. But, boy, that light weight, those wide toe boxes . . . I was sad that I just didn't trust them enough. Then I came across Topo. One of the first things I noticed was their use of Vibram outsoles; a huge plus, from my perspective. I tried a few of the Topo models; I liked them much better than the Lone Peaks, but there was just something a little "off" about how each of them fit my foot, and I was on the fence about making a full switch. Then Topo came out with the Traverse; I gave those a try, and it was like Goldilocks, lol -- I think they are going to be Juuuuust Right.
One complaint you have on the Topo is cost, yet at regular price they are still cheaper than any Altra's. I've been looking for a longer lasting trail shoe to compete with Altra's as I think they are so damn expensive for the short period of use you get out of them. May have to try a Topo. Thanks for the review!!
I also switched to Topos. Altras literially fall apart in only a few hikes. Such a shame as they used to be really good. Topo’s are not quite as comfortable, but I think that’s because the footbed is shaped a little differently on the heel and arch. I’ve beat up my ultrasventure pro’s all year, and they still look new. Love them! Bought some Trailventure 2 WP mids for hunting. 29 hard days, off trail, packing heavy weight, also still look brand new. I will stay with Topo for as long as they stay a quality long lasting wide toe-box shoe 👍
Completely agree on Altras durability I had a pair of all weather lone peaks started to break down after 190 miles, all the pairs I’ve had they just don’t last, the lugs as well. I will try topo. My friends an Altra user too he tried topo but found quite narrow in the heel.
My first trail runner was the Topo Ultraventure pro, I’ve found it extremely comfortable, very durable and seems to dry pretty quickly. I was still able to attach my piece of Velcro to the heel in between the proprietary holes and haven’t had any problems since July. At full price it is pricy at $150 but I always see someone has them on sale for around $119. These will be the shoes I start the PCT with in March.
Us military folks are used to paying $250-400 for a good pair of boots. $140 for 500 miles is a great price! I am a Merrill convert to Hoka. Never did like Lone Peaks. Based on my experience with previous products you’ve reviewed I’ll really need to try these!!!
Saw the Topo shoe and cannot believe it. Loved my first pair and thought it was the most comfortable running shoe but my second and third pair did not last more than 3 months and that was when I switched to Altra. This was about 6 years ago. I haven’t looked back since, but let’s see if you convince me. I’m in the market for my next running shoes
I've used the Topo M-Ultradventure 2 Black/Black on multiple Australian off-trail bushcraft style overnight hikes, perhaps 20km hikes with pack across gravel 4WD tracks as well as through raw Australian bush grass, rocks and wet creeks and they are great. They feel light, they feel breathable and dry out easily. I like that they are in a subdued black color; a lot of quality hiking shoes seem to be in a competition to stand out which is not what your average bushcrafter/survivalist/hunter is looking for. I swapped the laces with the Salomon Quicklace system, which has a very hard, thin, non-fluffy and durable cord that doesn't attract sticky plant seeds or get torn to shreds by thorny plants. One thing to note; I had a scare when I had them on my feet somewhat close to the campfire and very easily the glue attaching the sole to the shoe melted and the sole separated in the front part. I quickly pressed the shoe back together while it cooled and it has been perfectly fine since on more hikes; you can't tell it ever happened.
I tried Topos and went back to Altras!? I lost toe nails for the first time. I tried going up a size, but the heal was too loose. I hated getting them on and off -something about the lace. I went back to Altras for the comfort. The new pair seems to be lasting longer than prior experience. Switching out the insoles heels add protection from the rocks.
I've switched brands around but keep coming back to Oboz Sawtooths. I tried Altras but they were spongy and felt insubstantial, and I developed plantar fasciitis wearing them. Back to Oboz. But I recently tried Topo and they also work well. I use them for easy trails in summer, but go back to Oboz when it's rocky and broken. Light is good; ultralight is a marketing catch-phrase, but durability really matters.
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Haven't tried them yet but I'm keen to try out the Tarkine range, which falls into a similar vein as Topos, Altras, etc. They are a newish Aussie brand with an eco edge :)
The timp 1.5 was best altra ever, since then have lived in the altra olympus 4 to 5 pairs per year
How is sizing in comparison? and have you missed the rock plate?
I watched the video interview you did on footwear a little while back and it got me to check out Topos! I was really excited to find that they offer a couple styles that are light stability shoes, which I have always needed as an overpronater, but is seldom offered in a trail runner. I got a pair of their Traverses and have been really impressed! I love the Altra toe box but haven’t been able to find a style of Altras that doesn’t give me major foot pain - the medial support of the Traverse combined with the wide toe box has been an absolute game changer. They also have an insole that’s designed to shed water and help the shoe dry faster - haven’t had a chance to hike in conditions that would test that yet, but I’m excited to see how they do when I get them out in wetter conditions. I’ve been living in these shoes for the last few weeks and have gotten a few pain-free hikes in them - they are tentatively my new favorite shoe!
I'm with you. The quality of Altra shoes has gone down in the past two years not to mention they keep changing the width of their shoes. 3 months ago I switched over to Topo trail runners.. I love them for all the reasons you mentioned. Yes, a little pricey but my Altras wore out way too fast, so in the long run Topos are a better buy.
Totally with you on this, Darwin. I'm on my second pair of Topo Pursuits, and I've got a pair of their road shoes too. One factor you didn't mention is that they are a little more snug in the mid foot, so they don't feel as sloppy as the Altras do.
Altra revolutionized hiking footwear, and kudos to them for that. But unless they do something to fix the durability issue, I probably won't look back. Thanks for the review!
Great piece of info! I want more space for my toes, but after wasting money on two different pairs of altras only to realize my foot turns inside the shoe and squishes my toes worse than a shoe that stabilizes the mid foot. I will look for these and give them a try!
@laurasanders6071 What Topo road shoe do you like? Torin Altra 4 was near perfect for me and their revisions have been disappointing. Interested in what's worked for you. Thanks!
@@miksmi I've been using their zero-drop ST-4 for road walking and gym. It's light but stable. It looks like they now have moved on to ST-5, which has a slightly lower stack height and a zipfoam midsole. I'll give those a try when my ST-4s wear out.
@@laurasanders6071 ST-5 wasn't even on my radar 👏👏REI and local (Maryland) running stores don't stock this. What's your go-to b&m or online store?
//rant on
Why oh why aren't we allowed to have comparison charts with product features like drop, stack height, midsole material, etc.? C'mon manufacturers, enginerds are people, too; we want the deets! (No offense to any engineers in the crowd.)
@@miksmi I buy directly from Topo, online. They have their own comparison charts for their own shoes, but across brands? Yeah, I agree.
European Topofanatic here. First at al : been watching your channel for years, thanks a lot for inspiring me to do longer hikes here. I've got the Ultraventure 2 , Pro and 3 . I have tried Altra and zero-drop shoes ( Timps 4) and was not happy : the shoes were splitting after a mere 200 km and zero drop was messing with my achilles.Gues who was waring Timps at that time.😄 After trying different brans (Asic , Brooks, North Face etc...) i wend for Topo. My ( discontinued) Ultraventure 2 clocked over 1000 km. The Pro is in the same state as your Pursuits and has +- 500 km ( i use these only in rocky terrain) . The new 3's are at 300 km and counting (most confy and best ventilating ). I still use the 2's for dayhiking because there is still life in them. You can also change the insole for Sportiva one's , they are from the same manufacture , they are as confy but dry quicker and whem you buy them 1/2 size smaller they slip a bit in the shoe = no blisters. I don't use gaiters so no problem for me. Some strange thing : the toe box is not the same : Pro smaller than the2's and the 3's are the widest.
Hello, for online purchase (no choice) how many cm more than foot measurement with mondopoint, please? thank you
Hey What's up Darwin? When I saw this video crop up, I was immediately interested. I have been on the Altra Lone Peak bandwagon for the last 5 years. When I look back, my longevity has been about 6 months on each pair. After seeing your review, I decided to try a pair. Headed out to REI and purchased a pair of TOPO's. I bought the UltraVenture4. One month in, I am officially converted. I can truly see the amount of comfort that I was never quite getting with the Altra's. I have been in your corner since you suggested the Enlightened Equipment Torrid jacket. I have worn that thing out. It has been my go to for a long time. Keep up the great work!!
It isn't just Altra - Merrell is having issue too, usually the uppers and soles last long after the 'spring' and cushion is gone, but the last pair of Merrell shoes I bought the upper started to fall apart just doing light stuff around the farm.
That's a bummer to hear! 😐
The excessive toe-spring is my biggest issue with Topos. The toebox is just curved too much which makes it feel like a snowshoe. It's fine while on the move but standing, sitting, or driving in Topos just makes me wish I could switch to a normal flat shoe.
I noticed that right away and to me it’s a deal breaker. Unfortunate that they went that way with this shoe.
I feel like this is the same with their cyclone 🌀 2 running shoes.
Well, I guess it's a great shoe for hiking/running in but maybe not a great shoe for driving or idling in. Shocking
@@MisterWroeor people have different feet and preferences?
Love having you back Darwin. Great vids
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Important fact omitted from this video is that the tongue for Topo pursuits is sown on the sides which prevents the show from expanding fitting wider feet. The tongue on line peaks and spaadgoats is only attached at the end. The show is free to expand.
Great to see you back on you tube hope all is fantastic on your end
Doing great! Hope you're doing well too! 🤙
@@DarwinOnthetrailhave you ever had a pair of trail shoes fail you on the trail and if so how did you fix the issue
I've been using Topo Pursuits all year and love them. I've put hundreds of miles on pavement and trails and they are still going strong.
Lone Peaks are $150 these days so hard to complain about $140 shoes that last twice as long.
Have they really gotten up that high?! I remember them being like $110 or $120 last time I bought a pair
@@DarwinOnthetrail Yah it’s gotten ridiculous. Currently enjoying hokas but have always been curious about topo as well. Interestingly, topo has a new shoe, the “traverse”, specifically built for long distance hiking with durability in mind but still has a trail runner fit and feel. Seems appealing to me.
The 7s are $90 on Amazon right now.
@@mattgross7726 They do end of season sales like that, yes, but the official msrp and typically the price throughout most of the year is $150. Even at $90, the altras still present a lower "miles to dollar" value than topo.
The last set of Lone Peaks I bought was back in March and they were about $135 at REI. Getting something much more durable at the same price point seems like a no brainer. I'm definitely going to look at the Topos. @DarwinOnthetrail is who turned me onto the Lone Peaks in the first place and I was amazed when I first tried them to the point of Lone Peaks are the only athletic type of shoe that I buy (the zero drop is life changing).
I wear Topo Ultraventures now, since I also decided that the durability of Altra shoes is no longer acceptable. I highly recommend Kahtoola Instagaiters instead of the proprietary Topo gaiters. The Kahtoola gaiters are universally compatible and are designed really well overall.
Totally agree. I switched over to the Pursuits about 4 month ago for trail running in central Arizona.
Have been using Topo MTN racer 2 for over a year. Bought them on sale for +-$100 and I see they are currently on sale for $99. Very comfortable with 30mm stack, decent durability. The Vibram outsole started breaking a bit but I run a lot on rocks and concrete sections, so to be expected.
Got a pair, wanted to love them but found out the mid foot was way too narrow, probably being that I’m a 2E. After my foot going through that level of pain I found out that these companies that brand themselves with the wide toe box aren’t the end all be all for wide footers like me. Glad you were able to enjoy them though!
I'm a 4E (according to the Redwing store computer analysis)... but I can comfortably wear New Balance 990 series in 2E. I ordered Topos this year... 4 pair... not a one of them fit my foot. When I was young I had a narrow foot and all was nice in the shoe department. Currently, I have a pair of Altra Lone Peaks in wide and it fits okay. Note: you can definitely see my foot bulgjng out of it. So if the youth of today is wearing narrow shoes, let's just say due to age. Do you think these "kids" will swear brand loyalty if no one is there for them in the long haul. NB knows they will always have my money, Merrill too. But I want to be o. The PCT and experience a brand like Topo. Back them and brag to high heaven how I love them and why. It would be great to have all 4 pair of Topo models I bought in at least 2E, even as a custom order. Inatead I made a.lame video of my first time in their shoes and I swapped through them all in a matter of minutes (needs to be on my ready to launch new YT channel). The goal was to put on my first pair and go hike and provide live feedback onto my PCT FB page... but when the first kne didnt work I swapped to pair #2... which I thought would work ... this repeated until I was back in my Lone Peaks. Topo was great though... they paid for retrun shipping from Oahu... so talking bad about the company is somethjng I can only due from the standpoint of their variety of shoes for the variety of peolle qith a variety of foot sizes/widths. It did suck for me though... it was like my childhood football hero had let me down. 2024 PCT is coming and I havent figured out a shoe yet... I do have Altra on speed dial though.
Dream shoes: rock plate, size 11, 2E-4E, not waterproof... (waterproof models all keep water out until they don't... then they are great at keeping water in). By my testing... the non waterproof models have seemed to have dried quicker.
Wide feet need wide shoes. You see this all the time with people buying altras thinking they're wide, then blowing out the sidewalls. They make actual wide versions for wide feet. Their normal width shoes aren't wider than other brands, they're just not pointy.
@@jimjurek7911The Lone Peaks are wider than standard though, and that's the relevant comparison.
Do you know of any trail running zero drop alternatives to the Altras for people with wide feet?
Thank you for the video and recommendation. I'm 65 and have been hiking for many years since the boy scouts. Not nearly as many miles as you have and I enjoy your insight. I used the Topo Ultraventure and Trailventure, both 5 mil drop. Love both of them. I use an 8 mil drop, so I went with the Brooks Cascadia. Love that shoe. I have also used the New Balance Hierro but I don't like the tongue in them that slides down, on my foot. Thanks again.
I’ve had many lone peaks over my years backpacking, hiking, running and camping. My biggest complaint has always been that they wear out so fast I’m very happy to hear there is another option that is better! Definitely buying TOPOs for my next shoe
The Topos wear out too - I’ve had some last 300km and some last 750km, just as I’ve also had with Altras. Please don’t make your decision based on someone’s UA-cam video - this is 11minutes of him expressing nothing other than his personal preference.
I generally agree with you. I own the lone peaks and the pursuits. I find that the altra’s are softer and bigger. The pursuits are firmer and run a little smaller for me. I haven’t worn the Pursuits out yet at only 160mi. I have put 2k miles on Lone Peaks.
Great to see someone finally giving topo their props.
So I caught a guy’s video on YT his channel is “Believe in the Run”. He was at the Austin trade show big running show. He has a video with the Altra rep. He’s showing the new stuff for 2024 for Altra. With the whole durability issues with Altra I found it interesting this rep mentioned all three of the biggest gripes being addressed through out the video. The mesh in the toes falling apart, the lugs coming off, and the midsole flattening out were all touched on and according to the rep, steps have been taken in 2024 to address these things. So we shall see. Plus….They actually dropped the prices of some of their shoes. The Lone Peak is one of those. $150 down to $140
Good to hear. I hope it's true. I tried Topos a while ago. They were very slow to dry compared with Altra Lone Peaks; still squelchy in the mornings, even with the insoles out overnight. I also didn't like the foam collar around the opening. Altras just fit me better.
I love my topos! I was gonna get altras but a gear store I went to had these and I got them, so glad I did!
Thanks for the detailed review. I’ve been in lone peaks for years and finding the same for their durability. Nothing beats the Olympus high tops I have for winter wear though. Winter boots that are foot shaped were a huge problem for me here in Canada. Need something warm down to -40 that didn’t destroy my toes.
I'm a new-ish hiker/backpacker. I first bought Lone Peaks because everyone said to, but found i really needed more cushioning, and the zero drop didn't work for me. The Olympus didn't really fit me; the Timps felt good, but i was starting to hear reports about the durability issues. I started reading about the Topos in various forums. I ended up buying the Ultraventure Pro, which i think is most similar to aTimp with a rock plate, and absolutely love them. I swear that angels sing whenever i wear them! I also bought the Trailventure WPs for winter, as i prefer boots and some waterproofing during the rainy PNW winters that i hike in, and i love those, too. I'm definitely a Topo convert!
I started to say how much I agree when you, then I saw who the commenter was! 🤣 They seriously are the best! ❤
@@WanderingSwitchback haha I do go on about them sometimes, don't I?
@@brisketchick you and me both!
I did some off trail hiking in the Sierra this summer and my Lone Peaks didn't feel grippy enough. I tried a pair of Topos (can't remember the name) and a pair of Salomon Speedcross. The Topos were too "in the middle", meaning I lost the full benefit of the width of Altra's toe box and no 0 foot drop, but they also weren't as grippy as the Salomons. Grippiness won out and I went with the Salomons and felt very secure. The Topo Pursuits sound like they might be a good option to try (once everything I have wears out, lol) cuz I would like a very grippy shoe that is 0 drop, and being more durable that Altras is another plus. Thanks for the review!
I'm subscribed mainly because I believe you are not sponsored like you state and give out honest opinions. Thanks.
You have done so much for the hiking/ outdoor community. So many thanks.
Nice to see you posting videos like this again. I started using the Lone Peak 3.5's on your recommendation & been with them ever since. In the UK we have deep discounts after the initial 3-4 month period where I can pickup Lone Peaks for £75, so it makes it cost effective but I hate waste and I hate the crappy rubber they use. Will flip when I can get a good price
As someone who sells hiking shoes, I noticed the decline in durability started when the whole recycled materials thing started.
Super helpful review! I just bought my first pair of Topo’s, but got the terraventure 4 after a year of hiking on 6 pair of Hoka’s. Before that, I was an Altra fan. Didn’t care for how fast the lugs wore down on Altra’s. I hike in very rugged, rocky Arizona and the vibram soles are just necessary.
I‘m gonna buy a pair of these asap. I started using the Timp 3 because of your reviews, and gosh I loved those. Replaced them regularily after 700 miles or so only because I thought the cushioning was getting thinner. Nothing else broke. Now they don‘t produce them anymore and I‘m on a friggin 600 mile hike with 2 (!) pairs of Timp 4, switching them out from time to time (wearing different colors on each foot lol) because the heel stuffing is falling apart! Gosh I hate it if shoes that expensive don‘t even last 300 miles. On a side note my dirty girl gaiters are definitely shredded, need to buy new gaiters anyways, but I really do hate it when they do not allow you to use your own gaiters (at least the hokas have plenty of space to attach a piece of velcro)
I love topos! I thru hiked the PCT and AZT in their original ultraventures. Since then, I've been trail running in the pursuits (which I love), but just recently got a pair of their new shoes, the Traverse, to train in for an upcoming CDT attempt. I'm really hoping that these are going to be the perfect thru hiking shoe for me with the addition of a springier insole and added rockplate. Seriously stoked on topos!
Ultraventures for the win!
Same as many. I’m on my 2nd pair of topo pursuits. It’s everything I wanted from my six previous lone peaks. They hold up. They look great doing it. They feel good -all day comfort. They handle my heal the way I wished Altra would…sized as you’d expect. Winner!
I have the Topo Trailventure 2. I LOVE them! I like my shoes laced up snug, and the lacing lock system enables me to have my lace tension on my instep to be different than the tension on my ankle/upper.
After seeing one of your earlier videos about your Topos, I decided to get a pair. Thankfully, our local outfitter carried them and I found the perfect pair for me. I have been told I have Fred Flintstone feet and with the toebox being wider, I have never been more comfortable, not only on the trail, but any time I know I'm going to be on my feet for a long time. Thank you for this, I doubt I would've found these if I hadn't seen you talking about them.
Topos have been my go to even during the altra and hoka boom of the last few years! cool to see youre into them too
I purchased a pair of Topo Ultraventure just before Christmas and initially was not in love with them, but I switched out the insoles for My prescription ones and now they fit like a glove. I have loved them to death, but the tops still look fair, but the bottom lugs are worn down. I have around 500 + miles on them and I'm trading them in for a pair of Pursuits. Looking forward to using those to train for the AT in the spring
I was thinking same thing today ,as I'm doing a 45 through hike in Indiana Tecumseh trail matter of fact , been wearing lone peak 7s and decided to get a pair of topo ultra adventure 3 , and topos are now my new favorite shoe .
Have you tried the Traverse? It’s supposedly designed for long distance hiking. It’s not zero drop but it’s only 5mm.
I have had several Lone Peaks. Unfortunately I have 2 pairs of the most recent Lone Peak 8 and they both have issues with the toe cap peeling up. Super disappointed but. I will say their warranty is rock solid and they have honored them both. Might need to give the Topo a try next
I’ve just discovered your back on UA-cam. Im pleased.
Great review. I've been a Topo fan for years now, trail and road shoes are great for me. You hit it on the head about overall quality of Topo shoes. Once I found Topo, left Altra and haven't look back.
My last two trips to the Appalachian Trail, I’ve used Topo Mnt Racer 1 & 2’s. I thought about switching to Hoka’s but I feel I’m gonna get a pair of the Pursuits. I know what I like and Topo’s have been amazing. I’ve hiked in the Canyon lands of Utah with my Topo’s and the grip is unsurpassable!!
I am a huge brand jumper who goes back and forth all the time when it comes to the outdoors and I've bought them all.......Salomon, Keen, Hoka, NorthFace , Merrell, Oboz ,and more, but the Altra Lone Peaks trully saved my life. No more Plantar Fasciitis, no more corns, no more blisters, no more rashes , no more Achilles heel pain or shin splints and because they are lightweight and airy, no odor issues.I don't know what people are complaining about? They are a super shoe and very durable.Yes, eventually they fail from enough abuse because after all , they are made of lightweight man-made materials.Tactical boots wear out too and they don't weigh 11 onces either.They are not over priced either and you can stock up and buy older styles at the end of the year. I can work two jobs in them,hike, bike, go to the gym, play Frisbee golf, wear them 14 hours a day and they last for months and I never have foot pain ever.I go to outdoor stores and running stores to buy my Altras and the only criticism I have is if you like a particular crazy color combination you have to act quickly because you might not get the pink/Navy/gray/orange ones you've been eyeing that quarter because you procrastinated.I would like to also add that zero drop is such a lifesaver that any one that is heavier and wanting to start a program to definitely buy zero drop shoes to train in.Once you experience zero drop you will never go back.I remember the days before I discovered Altras, like the day a doctor had huge needles for the injections for my heels because I could barely walk.By wearing Altras I can go hard all day being a two hundred and fifty pound guy and no foot pain.
I don't know what version of the Lone Peaks you have but they are getting worse every year. I thought the my Lone Peak 6 didn't last long at all. Very poorly made. They are discounting the Lone Peak 7s now because no one is buying them. I won't buy them even at the discounted price. If I ever hear they are durable again, I might switch back
They have the worst outsole from all trail shoes ever built
dude, Zero drop shoes are HORRIBLE for overweight people. you will end up with more injuries to your foot with zero drop shoes if you are overweight. they are intended for people that are lightweight and in shape. you will destroy your feet if you are overweight and out of shape and use zero drop shoes.
Yep We also kicked Altra to the curb in 2021 for our AT thru.. VASTLY better traction on wet rocks also.. Salute Darwin.. hope to run into you again someday on a trail.. VINTAGE HIKERS
Thanks for the review Pigeon. I have been an Altra guy for years. I tried the Topo Athletic Ultraventure 2 but the rand and outsole delaminated on my first outing. I had no problem returning them but haven’t tried another Topo Athletic trail runner. With that said I have a pair of Topo Athletic Ultrafly 3’s that have held up quite well. Mixed results on my end with Topo Athletic. I still love my Altra Olympus 5’s for all things on the trail. When they die, maybe I’ll try these Pursuits.
I'm on my second pair of Topo running shoes. Had my first pair for about 2 years. $140.00 is a fair price for me considering how great they feel and how long they last. Great video. I hope they make the Pursuit in a midhigh,
As soon as I saw the gaiters in the intro it's what caught me as a disadvantage on their side.. Let's see with more people talking about it, the might change it up.. Thanks for the review!
I've had no issues with using my Dirty Girls with mine.
You should give the Topo Traverse a go next. Topo created them specifically for thru-hikes and long haul trail hikes. 5mm drop - 30mm heel/25mm toe. New closed cell FKT insole locks water out and it's beaded to drain off water. Does have a rock plate.
I agree, regarding the insoles. Topo seems to engineer in quite a bit of arch into their footbed, and it doesn't play well with most insoles as it changes their shape. I use Superfeet carbon insoles in all my shoes, but with the Topo's I've just been running the stock insoles, as the resultant arch shape is fairly similar to when I use Superfeet insoles in my shoes that have a flat footbed.
I'm all in on these. Such a good looking shoe too
Ordered a pair of Topo's to compare to my LonePeak Ultra's. When I got them I took 5 steps in them and put them back in the box and shipped them back. They, like a lot of shoes these days, have created a weird topography built into the sole of their shoe for arch support. I guess I have low arches because with the Topos on with every step I could feel them pushing into arches. No thanks. The LonePeak Ultra's have a simple, old school sole that works perfectly for those that don't need built in arch support, i.e. zero-drop shoes. I just got back from doing 500 miles thru the desert section of the PCT with my Ultra's and I had NO foot issues at all. Along the way I replaced the insoles with some much more comfy Doctor Scholl insoles and wow, the shoe was transformed and made even better. I was able to hike 20+ miles per day and my feet never got sore (which was first for me). Just wished the ULtra's had a Vibram-like sole.
I had the same problem. Went to REI to test a pair of these out and after 5 mins I put them in the box.
Spot on review. I LOVE Topos!
The Timp 1.5s are the only Altra's that have been comparable to the many pairs of Topos I've worn (mostly Terraventure). I typically use the factory insoles for the first couple hundred miles before switching to Super feet insoles. The only factory insoles I've had experience with worth the name. I use REI gators, and have had no issues with function. As for price, the price difference is minimal compared to Altra's (in my experience), especially when the much greater durability is factored in. Another + for Topos over Altras in my experience is the much better heel cup fit. The Altras I've owned not only wore out in 200 miles but also did a bang-up job of taking off miles of use from my Darn tough socks because of heel movement. I'm glad to see Topos seeing wider spread use. I was getting worried for the future of this great company. 👍👍
I have really bad overpronation and I read on Reddit where a lot of people suggested these shoes with a solid insert right before I found this video. So I think I’ve really found my next hiking shoe!
I have men's NB MTMORBY2, 2E, and Lone Peak, 2E. I previously had the Speedgoat men's, 2E, but learn their latest iteration wasn't as wide so I didn't order any. I prefer the NB. I do have custom-made orthotics because of meratarsalgia and do better with more cushion and less or no heel drop. I've tried two kinds of men's Topos, but I had to return them because they weren't quite wide enough. You've given such a good review that I'll have to look back and see if the Pursuit was one of my choices. Hopefully not!
I really love that color too. So many wide shoes are boring, ie gray, black, or white.
I've been wearing Altra for years and had hiked in some topos once on the PCT after a store in Ashland recommended them. I will be hiking the AZT next year wearing topos. I'm more than happy to pay the price if I can get more than 300 miles out of them. Altra just seems to wear out too quickly. I will still buy them for work, however for the trail I am hopeful the topos will be my new hiking shoes.
I had a joint replaced in my foot and the Altra Olympus have that extra cushioning that I haven’t been able to find anywhere else. Have never had sore foot in these even after 20+ mile days
i use my olympus alot, however the issue is instability on rocky terrain (35 mm stack height). with poles you can negate the issue, but without poles ive rolled an ankle and come close several times. they have lasted longer than my LP's....but giving the pursuit a try
@@roamsy I haven’t had an issue with the instability but I think they don’t last as long as they should, if I could find something with the same cushioning I’d give them a try. The cushioning after my surgery was a life saver.
Nice review of the Topo Pursuits, Darwin. I have worn both the Altra Lone Peak 7s and Topo Pursuits while backpacking and thru-hiking. In my experience I much prefer the Topos over the Altras; especially in regard to the grip provided by the Topos. On wet rocks and roots, I found the Altras to be downright dangerous in that they were constantly losing their grip and slipping, whereas the Topos seemed to stick to everything. Additionally, as some have already indicated, the Altras felt sloppy on my feet, which added to the feeling of instability I had while wearing them. With that said, I will note with my Topos, contrary to your experience, that the toe-wrap where the Vibrim sole wraps up onto the toe box, began to delaminate within the first 40 miles of a thru-hike. I saw this same issue on Topo Pursuits that others on the trail were wearing. I'm unaware if Topo has addressed this reliability concern or not. The bottom line for me, however, is I will be wearing Topos on my hikes in the future.
Pursuit is way too narrow for my toes foot and my pink toe was pushing against the fabric too much for comfort. I wanted to love it but just can't. However my terraventures have been pretty good but I also had the same durability issues I did on the lone peak 5's with a little more comfort
I’m older, need the padding and after Ultras hurt the bottom of my feet in the Sierra rocky trails where I live, I switched to Hokas. I can still day hike in Ultras, but anything overnight I’m grabbing the Hokas. I will say that after your video I may not have given them a fair chance as I did not use any additional insoles. I may try that with this brand as I appreciate what you said about their grip and durability.
Thanks for the video. All trail shoes are expensive in Australia. But I wait for sales and hope my size is available. I flipped from Salomon to Topo Ultraventure a few months ago for extra forefoot cushion. The sole is super grippy - great to trust shoes when rock hopping. Durability has been amazing - no signs of wear at all. Only issue for me was the shoe being wide at the heel. Put my Superfeet insole in and problem solved. I still feel the trail but don't feel like my feet are being battered. So maybe a Salomon killer too😂
Topo Terraventure. Was also on the 3 passes trail with them this October/November, and on Kilimanjaro in 2021. Their 3 mm drop doesn't harm, and I need the rock plate.
I've been planning to give Topo a try, but for right now, my go-to trail shoe is the Scarpa Spin Planet. Best all-rounder I've had in many years, and I've used it for both mountain races, and backpacking (in the Sierras and Winds). Just bought a second pair on-sale!
just saw your comment, do the scarpa shoes have wide toe box like topo and altra? thank you!
@@clementerosauro9127 No, the toebox of the Scarpas isn't as wide as the Topos. But, my feet are a little wide, and I always struggle with finding shoes that will work. Basically, my toes don't "taper" much (more kinda block-like :), so I need extra room for my pinky toes. And the Spin Planets have enough room for me, without having to size up (which causes other problems).
Thanks. I’m going to give these a try in when they are back in stock in a 15. My last two pairs of Altra shoes have fallen apart way too fast.
He’s back! With a gear video!! Wooohoo!!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Rocked Pursuits from Damascus to Duncannon this year. I changed back to Altra’s strictly due to availability and honestly feel like I could’ve made it through Rocksylvania with those shoes. Guess I wigged out at the thought of the rocks.
I’ve had the same pair of Terraventure 3’s for a few years now and despite everything I’ve put them through, they’re still solid. Additionally, I picked up a pair of the TV 4’s that we’re going to be my final pair on the AT right before I had to get off the trail. The 3’s were the most comfortable shoe I’d worn up to date, and the 4 feels about the same with a stronger toe cap. Loving them.
To your gaiter comment, I glued the Velcro on pretty easily and wore my dirty girls the whole way. So 🤷🏻♂️
I made the altra to topo switch a year ago on my own, nice to see validation 6 months later !
Thanks Darwin. I'll give these a try.
i used some tera advenutre 3s on the ct and some more, good for 750 miles this summer...now they are smoked, have to keep these in mind
I had 5 pairs of lonepeaks and a year ago switched to the pursuits. I am on my 3rd pair of pursuits now. Sick of the fast wearing Altra grips and also they weren't very grippy. Plus the rock plate did nothing. The pursuits still fit wide in the toe but hug more in the mid foot. That took a little getting use to but feels good now. Agree the mid sole is great... No rock plate but better protection than the lone peak some how. Outsole has lasted ages and is fairly grippy. My left big toe has finally come through the top of my first pair of pursuits but they are really worn out after hiking and trail running for a year. I think it's my most perfect shoe to date. Only minor point is they squeek when wet when my foot slips on the inside material....the inside material is quite slippy anyway. Plus they have a proper heel cup unlike lonepeaks which are really saggy. Agree with your review. Nice one. I wait for the sales and try to get a few pounds off. I'm keeping with the Topo's. Sheffield England 🇬🇧. Cheers buddy.
Recently I bought a pair of Topo MTN racer 2. I am super new to running, just started this month.. I never run before.. so probably I make mistakes that cause this ..but I've noticed my feet tend to slide into the front while l am landing or downhill running. The shoes are a size bigger, I lace them tight ..but still I feel the toe touching the front after a moment of running. Other than that, much better quality when I compared them with Altra Olympus 5.
Love this type of video man. Thanks for posting.
I've been using the Terraventures for a few years now. The beat the durability of ALTRA by a wide margin and in my opinion are more comfortable. You can find their shoes on sale at different times of the year from multiple outlets. Just be on the lookout and pull the trigger if you don't even need a new pair at the time. You will need them eventually.
I’ve been wearing Altra for around 5 years (Lone Peak, Olympus, Paradigm) and Topo Pursuit are not a direct swap for Altra Lone Peak. The toe box is smaller and the overall fit is tighter. I can wear Lone Peak straight from the box, while the Pursuit feel like they need to be stretched to achieve the same level of comfort. I was disappointed with them and will be going back to Altra.
I’ve got the MTN racer 3’s and I LOVE them
Yup. Have multiple pairs of Altra and recently switched to Topo. Still like the Timp 4 (fixed the 2.0 issues) but Topo is my go to for now.
Great review! As a trailrunner i use normaly Brooks (Catamount 2) and Hoka models. I have a pair of Lone Peak 5 for that nice toebox (recovery runs). But to be honest i never liked them because of 2 reasons.
1. The foam is low quality (as you said)
2. I hate the grip
They look cool too! Good video!
Bought a pair of Topo Pursuits and they felt fantastic right out of the box. After a few days I noticed that my right foot started rolling inward a little bit - as if the insole had shifted but I couldn't confirm that. I put in a pair of Superfeet Green insoles and the combination was too high had too much arch. Still trying to figure it out and find a combination that will work for me. I do want to make them work. I have a couple of LP4's and an LP6 that I still use - sole wear has been the killer issue for me.
will be looking forward to hearing an update....just got my pursuits this week and looking forward to trying them out
The lone peak has the most slippery outsole on allmost any surface.
Can not use them for anything faster with uphill or downhill. Will definitely try these.
Tried some topos (road shoes with 3mm drop) in the past but didn't really like the toe spring
After Backcountry Pilgrim did a review of the Topo Adventurer several months ago, I bought a pair on sale. The only dislike I have is the toe box is not as wide as the Altra Lone Peak. Other than that, they have out performed the Altras. Great review...
Been hiking in the Topo Runventure 2s for 3 years now, and I have no complaints. The rock plate even saved my foot from a rusty nail once
I got these last year and love them! They outlast any altras I ever owned by an unknown amount because I still havent got any holes in them. My altras all got holes before hitting 100 miles. I do wish they made a shoe with more aggressive tread for mud and snow. I hiked on snow last week and fell on my ass a few times. The altra lone peak and king mt treads do great on the same trail.
Just finished hiking 80 miles through Patagonia in Topo Pursuits and they were great! Great cushion so i didnt have any feet pain and durability was outstanding.
I love topos and am surprised that hardly anyone reviews them. Thanks for your review of the pursuit
I've used multiple generations of the Topo Mtn Racers and one of their waterproof shoes for ultras on rough trails/peaks and really like them. The Vibram sole wears somewhat fast on the rocks, but nothing grips like these and I'm comparing them to the other climbing brand running shoes with grippy rubber (La Sportiva etc). Can handle snow and mud in the mountains dependably. Decent techy terrain mtn runner too, not sloppy in the mid-foot and still roomy in the toe box over the miles. The first set I had showed wear very fast in the first 150 miles or so, but then held out fine to my typical 300-400 miles usage. The lack of a rock plate means you feel the softening of the midsole on techy terrain more at ~250+ miles, but I'm a heavier runner at 180-190lbs.
I really like that Topos offers several shoes with a spread of characteristics for different people without dumbing down the traction. So you can get a 0 or a 5mm drop, cushioned or thinner, neutral or light support, etc. Great brand!
After years of contentedly wearing full-on traditional boots, I decided to sip the trail runner Kool Aid ;) and tried out The One That Everyone Raved About, the Altra Lone Peak. I loved how light they were on my feet and I REALLY loved the wide toe box; I hated nearly everything else about them. The grip was . . . not very grippy; I was "meh" about the zero drop; and no matter how I laced them, they felt sloppy on my foot. Several times, while hiking in tricky spots, I ended up walking partly on the side of the shoe. It was like hiking in bedroom slippers.
But, boy, that light weight, those wide toe boxes . . . I was sad that I just didn't trust them enough. Then I came across Topo. One of the first things I noticed was their use of Vibram outsoles; a huge plus, from my perspective. I tried a few of the Topo models; I liked them much better than the Lone Peaks, but there was just something a little "off" about how each of them fit my foot, and I was on the fence about making a full switch. Then Topo came out with the Traverse; I gave those a try, and it was like Goldilocks, lol -- I think they are going to be Juuuuust Right.
One complaint you have on the Topo is cost, yet at regular price they are still cheaper than any Altra's. I've been looking for a longer lasting trail shoe to compete with Altra's as I think they are so damn expensive for the short period of use you get out of them. May have to try a Topo. Thanks for the review!!
Nice review, thanks!
I also switched to Topos. Altras literially fall apart in only a few hikes. Such a shame as they used to be really good. Topo’s are not quite as comfortable, but I think that’s because the footbed is shaped a little differently on the heel and arch.
I’ve beat up my ultrasventure pro’s all year, and they still look new. Love them!
Bought some Trailventure 2 WP mids for hunting. 29 hard days, off trail, packing heavy weight, also still look brand new.
I will stay with Topo for as long as they stay a quality long lasting wide toe-box shoe 👍
Total agree on Lone Peak durability. I’ll give these a try.
Completely agree on Altras durability I had a pair of all weather lone peaks started to break down after 190 miles, all the pairs I’ve had they just don’t last, the lugs as well. I will try topo. My friends an Altra user too he tried topo but found quite narrow in the heel.
LOVE these shoes!
My first trail runner was the Topo Ultraventure pro, I’ve found it extremely comfortable, very durable and seems to dry pretty quickly. I was still able to attach my piece of Velcro to the heel in between the proprietary holes and haven’t had any problems since July. At full price it is pricy at $150 but I always see someone has them on sale for around $119. These will be the shoes I start the PCT with in March.
Us military folks are used to paying $250-400 for a good pair of boots. $140 for 500 miles is a great price! I am a Merrill convert to Hoka. Never did like Lone Peaks. Based on my experience with previous products you’ve reviewed I’ll really need to try these!!!
Saw the Topo shoe and cannot believe it. Loved my first pair and thought it was the most comfortable running shoe but my second and third pair did not last more than 3 months and that was when I switched to Altra. This was about 6 years ago. I haven’t looked back since, but let’s see if you convince me. I’m in the market for my next running shoes
I've used the Topo M-Ultradventure 2 Black/Black on multiple Australian off-trail bushcraft style overnight hikes, perhaps 20km hikes with pack across gravel 4WD tracks as well as through raw Australian bush grass, rocks and wet creeks and they are great. They feel light, they feel breathable and dry out easily. I like that they are in a subdued black color; a lot of quality hiking shoes seem to be in a competition to stand out which is not what your average bushcrafter/survivalist/hunter is looking for. I swapped the laces with the Salomon Quicklace system, which has a very hard, thin, non-fluffy and durable cord that doesn't attract sticky plant seeds or get torn to shreds by thorny plants. One thing to note; I had a scare when I had them on my feet somewhat close to the campfire and very easily the glue attaching the sole to the shoe melted and the sole separated in the front part. I quickly pressed the shoe back together while it cooled and it has been perfectly fine since on more hikes; you can't tell it ever happened.
I tried Topos and went back to Altras!? I lost toe nails for the first time. I tried going up a size, but the heal was too loose. I hated getting them on and off -something about the lace. I went back to Altras for the comfort. The new pair seems to be lasting longer than prior experience. Switching out the insoles heels add protection from the rocks.
I discovered these shoes last summer and I love them
I've switched brands around but keep coming back to Oboz Sawtooths. I tried Altras but they were spongy and felt insubstantial, and I developed plantar fasciitis wearing them. Back to Oboz. But I recently tried Topo and they also work well. I use them for easy trails in summer, but go back to Oboz when it's rocky and broken. Light is good; ultralight is a marketing catch-phrase, but durability really matters.
I've been using TOPO's for 4 years and love them