Shatner Tries To Settle Takei Feud
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- William Shatner responds to George Takei on the issue of George's continuing commentary to the press on him and offers to settle the feud that has been brewing with George for decades.
I met George Takei years ago just after the release of Star Trek V. I can’t stress enough that he was a very nice man to me, but he was clearly his own biggest fan. He needs to let it go already.
He comes across as bitter and jealous about Shatner's success whenever he talks about him.
@@donkey3187 ....and increasingly so over the years. I have no doubt Shatner was probably a dick to him, but how sad that his public life revolves around it.
@@corneliuscrewe8165 Mabye he was, mabye not...but either way that was 50 years ago...the man is pathetic and just comes across as extremely jealous.
I think this can be summed up by saying actors tend to have massive egos, both these men are prime examples and the results are predictable.
Exactly. Actors are a little crazy
"Star Trek (TOS)" had three stars (initially two): Shatner, Nimoy, and subsequently Kelley. All the rest were supporting cast (Doohan, Nichols, Koenig, Takei). Takei has made comments about Shatner having an influence over directors and writers, about him changing scenes, about him modifying scripts to focus more on Kirk. Well, that's what the star is entitled to do! There episodes without Sulu; there was a whole season without Chekov; there were even episodes without Uhura. If anyone was the fourth star of "Star Trek," it was Doohan. So all of Takei's claims about Shatner hogging the glory are simply petty jealousy.
No. Shatner was a dick and hogged the camera and had an out of control ego. I would have liked to have seen more episodes around Sulu, Uhura & Chekov. The show was poorer without it. The show was poorer due to Shatner's arrogance and ego.
I know stars have more power than TV show directors often because series directors are usually only there for a short time, but a lot of directors would have a word or two with any star who tells them how to frame shots. Not least of which because they know their job better than the guy in front of the camera. They might get away with some dialogue changes here and there, writers are often bottom of the pile at Hollywood rightly or wrongly, but it'll still be someone in the crew that lets them know whether that line being changed was okay. In Bill Mumy's television academy interview, speaking about DS9, he said Star trek was incredibly strict about even one-word changes in dialogue, which had to be passed up the chain to get approval.
@@paarethBut Shatner also had a crew role in that he had a hand to play in writing and script changes. So part of him taking liberty to change shots I think was also coming from that role he played
Why are they still feuding after more than half a century?
@@SeansModelBuildsThey aren’t. George is. Shatner has never said a word until this, and as we see, there no animosity toward George from him.
The negativity is all from George.
Shatner doesn’t care..
Takei's constant attacks on Shatner have had the effect of making Shatner look better. Everyone feels sorry for Shatner now. Takei does himself no favours.
takei's biggest grief is that shatner got too much camera time in the series. the nerve of those writers to give the *captain* of the enterprise a star role. i think we can all agree that the guy who fires photon torpedoes is the real brains behind everything.
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@@bluetextonwhitebg he is the captaiin!!! He had to have more cameratime. Takei should go to his momma and cry his ass Off
@@maxwaller2055 Oh My!
Takei needs to get over his 50 year grudge with a coworker he worked with for a couple years. Who cares that he didn't like someone in his office? You move on and forget about it, not hold a grudge for the rest of your life.
+kewkabe Your math is off. Couple of years = three years and 79 episodes of the original series, countless convention and special appearances together, six movies over 15 year period....that's not working with someone just a couple of years.
Christopher Turco
Your math is off. They weren't filming 52 weeks a year -- at a week per episode that's what, a year and a half? Then six movies at a month a movie but not always in the same scenes. How many conventions did they both appear together? Five? At a couple hours per convention. Total a "couple of years." Get over it, Takei.
I can't help but wonder. Well Takeis family was put in a internment camp.
I wonder if Shatners ego somehow reminds
George too much of the authority used against his family?
From some of the stuff George has mentioned, it seems that William Shatner exercized his granted authority within the filming of Star Trek almost profusely. I think that type 'authority' perhaps connects too sensitively with Takei, and wonder if perhaps he needs to come to terms with that, within his undying hatred toward Shatner? Even Nicelle Nicoles has mentioned along the lines of "a little too much" of Shatners ego in those days, but also that Shatner called her and asked her "was I really that bad?" and from there a conversation ensued that was productive in thier relationship, and now they keep in touch. I just wish that this could happen with George. I think everyone likes to remember The Family of Star Trek. I don't know if Takeis going to be remembered that well. Not that he should give in to media oriented pressure. Just that, it is too bad he can't find forgiveness within himself over it.
My family was put in an interment camp. Big fucking deal. In Australia during ww2 Germans and Italians were put in interment camps. Don't see them constantly going on about it.
@@LarryTaint-qn8pd Dont eat shellfish or wear multi fabric clothing then ! Your bible is a load of shyte!!!
This is just Takei’s attempt to stay relevant. Very sad, talk about ego.
I think George Takei finds Shatner an easy target, and his fans enjoy that. It's easy to make fun of the star of the show and say "oh, he demands to get all the lines and closeups." Ummm... yeah, that's what the star gets, George. Welcome to Hollywood, that's how TV shows go. So I think all of the barbs that Takei tosses at Shatner are only to support Takei getting press and such. And I say this as a fan of both.
George wants to be an internet personality, and he could be a good one just by telling anecdotes about his experiences and being accessible. Apparently he doesn't have the verbal skills to do that, and his whole theme is "I hate the same people you hate". It's not just Shatner, this is his attitude towards everything. "I hate Politician X as much as you do." "I hate these people as much as you do." Et cetera. He's a very divisive personality, at least in public.
Shatner is an American icon. From Captain Kirk to Denny Crane, he has been hugely entertaining.
If his ego is 2 miles wide, I really don't care.
North American... William Shatner is Canadian...
A Canadian who is an icon of American TV to be sure.
a Canadian who is an icon of American TV on planet earth
unknownx420 who gives a shit
As you say total correct: there is no problem with William Shathers ego. I want to say : its NECESSARY (imo) that William Shatner has a big ego, because that flows into a much more believable 'Captain Kirk'-character, even when Kirk is fictional. Sometimes Spock has the bridge , sometimes scotty. Both of they was quiet believable. But i could never imagine : chekov, uhura, or zulu , to command the enterprise, even if they were very good at their roles. When zulu was older he get his ship - it was ok for his age. But in the TOS, he seemed to young and somehow not with the same charism like Kirk. The power from Kirk is not only came from : 'Im the hero, and i command' , but also from a kind of 'take it easy' . for me he seemed like a captain: i want AND can trust to , because it was feelable, that he quiet control every situation - not only with his abilities, but also with his optimism. Shatner was the right choice from gene roddenberry for the Captain.
I actually met Shatner last year. He was full of jokes, laughs, energy and NOTHING objectionable what so ever. George has to be wrong about him. Shatner has also admitted all his mistakes and by not taking himself seriously anymore, he has redeemed himself of that.
Just do a little digging what some of his other colleagues has said about him and you realize the true nature of the man. Also people tend to mellow with age. In the case of men the decrease in testosterone tend to help with that.
I'm sure you met him last year, prob on a convenction and yet you know him better then his co-workers for decades..
Vanessa Pucca
No one can truely know the Shatner!
Did you pay $100 for his autograph like my idiot friend did?
Ian Anderson can YOU prove it?
So either way; George lied. Whether he invited or didn't invite Shatner, he's on record stating he did and he didn't.
Shatner seems to be able to overcome how he used to be and usually the best jokes about Shatner at Shatner's expense is usually being told BY Shatner. Takei seems to have some sort of overblown entitlement. There were three main characters on Star Trek, Shatner, Nimoy and Kelly. He was always a second tier character. I do enjoy his work in Star Trek don't get me wrong. but even if he did have issues with Shatner it's time to get over it. Shatner has apologized in different forums for some of his earlier behavior. So I do not see the sense in continually attacking Shatner.
Jf Mc mmkay
Takei IS over blown....by his husband.
I could probably write this off as and chalk it up to "rivalry", "On screen tension," etc and say that George Takei IS the problem. But then I find out that Leonard Nimoy had a problem with William Shatner that he took to his grave, I find out that even (Of ALL people) Walter Koenig has a problem with him, as well as Nichelle Nichols. Something is obviously going on because you can't sit here and tell me that the problem is with everybody else EXCEPT Bill Shatner. But yes, I would say that it is time to let things go.
@@Ma007rk Nimoy, Koenig, and Nichols are/were all holding a decades-long grudge against Shatner for the way he was when they filmed the original series. Back then he was a camera-hog. He complained if the other actors got more screen time than him, and always wanted to be in every scene. I've heard Nimoy talk about it. George Takei has been using this "feud" argument to keep himself in the limelight.
Calvin Gregory could not agree more!
Hey, Shatner, I don't care, either way. You have been a wonderful contribution to my life. You and Takei, and I'm thankful for you both! Thank you for existing!
It's time you and Takei buried the hatchet.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Hear hear. Both men have big ego. Just let go.
I love them both I wish they can bury the hatchet before they die. I know Leonard nimoy would want that.
Whatever Shatner's personal character really is, one thing Takei has proven to me loud and clear about himself is that he's a VERY small and bitter man who doesn't tolerate descent from his personal views, even slightly.
To him evidently there's the righteous whom will walk in total lockstep with George, and then there's the "subhuman" who deserve nothing but scorn and hate at every turn, and nobody in between. Apparently Takei will never rest in peace until everyone on the planet does nothing but sit around stabbing Shatner voodoo dolls and praising George's eternally virtuous victimhood, in which case even if William is in fact the world's biggest asshole as he claims, it begs the questions "Um, don't you have a LIFE???"
Well get one George and maybe take a few acting lessons in between.
Yeah ...he is a total pric.
Lemon so u support this one hit wonder Takei? Why get behind a loser....?
No pun intended!
He is a jealous bitch
You just described a typical democrat
George isn't the only one. Walter Koenig and James Doohan have/had their fair share of issues with Shatner as well.
I think Shatner is most reasonable with his side of the story.
Agreed. Regardless of the truth of the Shatner/Takei feud, Bill has tried to kept a sense of decorum and politeness every time journos ask him about the feud or George spews out another bitchy allegation. Shatner has lived rent-free in Takei's mind for decades, it seems.
George Takei would disagree. So would Mr. Sulu.
He never missed the opportunity to take a shot at takei also. If you want to be nice, be nice. I adore Bill, but he is clearly the way he is. A far better actor than Takei for sure too. And very underrated in that regard. I love and envy that his mind stays with him in his age. The thirst for knowledge keeps you young I guess
Sulu is a racist bigot.
While there may be no doubt that Takei had a point about the shallowness of Shatner during the taping of the show, even manslaughter caries a limited time conviction. He should of had his say decades ago, and then let it go. Instead, he repeated these grievances over and over spanning decades. It became worse than anything Shatner may have done, and quite frankly, a little weird.
Takei can't live with the fact that someone, somewhere on planet earth may actually NOT hate Shatner as much as he does. George is a sick, petty little bastard in my book.
***** I don't know Shatner and I've heard mixed stories about him as a person, but Takei is just soooo friggin relentless and bitter in his hatred of him it's ridiculous and speaks more about him than Shatner.
***** For the record I'm not an expert on either of them and of course I could be wrong, but from what I've heard from Takei over the years and what he said in his autobiography isn't compatible with him considering Shatner a friend, his hate is palatable
Takei was friendzoned by Shatner and now he hates him... I'm not sure about that, but this is how my stalkers end up talking about me lol
I agree.
I used to take George's side in all of this years ago since he was so vocal about it, but just started looking into it more for some reason the other day, and I gotta say, every single response I've found from Shatner so far has been extremely mature whereas Takei's responses are full of childish put-downs and insults. I haven't actually followed Takei's stuff for years ever since he and Brad became and ad machine for random blogs & online merch and those allegations about George drugging a guy in his apartment came out. Of course, I don't have any way to know if those allegations are true or not, but as an abuse survivor I wasn't able to engage with him as a fan anymore without thinking about that every time, so I left. Now that I'm seeing this all again from a fresh perspective after studying psychology for a few years, I gotta say that whatever I thought or believed about Shatner seems to be wrong and now I'm trying to figure out what the truth is. Regardless, this interview showed a lot of maturity, so good on him.
I think George is just trying to stay in the public eye
Same, I sincerely think Bill was arrogant as a young man (leading role syndrome), but as time went on I doubt it went beyond anything real, or at least intently malicious.
@@johnskinnwr4629 Maybe. I had to stop following him when his constant advertising for random stuff on Amazon got to be too much. I mean, no shade to someone trying to make a living, but I just wasn't interested in seeing it. Whatever the truth is about the feud, I guess it's none of our business. I hope they're all happy and living fulfilled lives.
Well. Just look how that 3rd acts. Childish immature, brat jealous.
@@m0L3ify You have a mature take on the issue yourself. 👍
Shatner is just an adorable, huggable little teddy bear with the playful mind of an innocent 10 year old. I just want to see him and Takei hugging.
you ever wonder if Takei had a crush on Shatner way back and felt turned down. hell hath no fury.
Melody and Papa Bear no too oversized egos
Interesting point!
I wish they would patch things up before it is too late, so many of the crew has died already.
DDumbrille
What the hell is wrong with you? Everyone on a film set is called the crew... DUH!
I thought the actors were the cast members.
Dr.DouglassD
You nailed it.
Tarzan, Flash Gordon, the Lone Ranger, etc., cannot die unless viewers tire of them and stop watching them. Then they fade away like AOL.
Not a real crew. Not a real ship. #Fiction
Candide Thirtythree Who cares about Takei? He was just a supporting actor on Star Trek!
Takei doesn't want to settle the feud.
This "poor me" bit is what passes for his acting career these days.
So what if someone insults another person over being gay?
FING FRUITFLY
Digging where? Takai would not be remembered if he were not the gay star-trek guy.
I would love to see some citation for that assertion about Shatner making homophobic remarks about George. If he did that would be all over the internet. Don't be making shit up, One.
Homosexuals have a problem with an Alpha male.
George Takei is simply full of hate on so many levels - it really is a shame and a rather sad situation. Shatner used to be arrogant and full of himself, but in the last 10-20 years has become much more humble, relaxed and reflective. So while Shatner has mellowed, Takei has just become more bitter and hateful.
😂😂😂😂😂 Nope, he’s got you fooled. Shatner is a pro at snowing people. Believe what you want….
These guys are getting old. They need to bury the hatchet. It hurts me to see them fight because,..I'm a die hard treki
I don't think so. He was nice guy to me.
@@amechealle5918 no George takei is a very bitter old geeser little boy Man. In every single video he always trashes Willam shatner just like with me I'm not close with my only grandmother Left alive do I go on national videos always trashing her and writing books about her know if you don't like the person that much just leave them alone it's not that hard and it's also called show a little respect seriously
Right!
Shatner might have tried to hog the limelight, in Takei's mind, but is that a reason to hold a grudge for decades? Also, wouldn't it be the director, writers, etc. fault if they kept giving scenes to Shatner ... or didn't like it when Shatner took focus?
I like both of them, but Shatner is my favorite.. He has such an huge ego it's funny.
How in the world is Shatner looking this good at his age? He is defying age itself, its unbelievable.
CriticalShot1 He’s 88 now but looks naturally 50. 40 in make up
I assume he has used the services of the best California cosmetic surgeons.
A wise thing to do in his line of work
The man is F*CKING AMAZING...HE LOOKS AND ACTS MUCH YOUNGER THAN HIS AGE!!
OK so he has put on a few lbs. but he still looks damn good for his age!!
Btw I saw him at one of his comedy shows and I had NO IDEA HOW F*CKING FUNNY HE WAS!!
As far as the drama amongst the cast members of TOS Ihave mixed feelings!!
Check out Wil Wheaton's You Tube video when he wanted to meet William Shatner when he was in STNG and how that went!!
Also check out Leonard Nimoy's You Tube interview where he does an imitation of the Shat!!
Interestingly he brings up the fact that Bill wasn't happy when Spock started getting more attention in the show and picked up the phone and next thing you know they ask the camera guy who was interviewing or filming Nimoy to leave the set so yeah when you have several colleagues say the same thing you have to really reconsider that this is all " Sulu" and nothing to do with Kirk!!
Don't get me wrong I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ST ...ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL but just remember they are HUMAN and as such each have their own faults/ shortcomings as we ALL DO!!!!
Not just his looks but the way he still communicates. To listen to him after going into space at the age of 90… He doesn’t look or sound 90 years old! I love him for so many reasons and super happy for him right now that I’m just consuming almost every video with him featured 😆🥰
I have been saying die 20 years that William shatner doesn’t look a day over 55. He’s 90!! Unbelievable. And he is sturdy too, not a bit frail. And he’s flying in to space!
Takei, Koenig, and the rest were there for diversity's sake. They were nearly extras with lines. Nichols & Doohan had definitive characters, but Takei & Koenig's roles were to sit at the console, push buttons, and say exposition, plot-driven dialogue. There were several episodes were it was totally different people at the helm. Not until the movies did Takei & Koenig have characters that mattered.
The whole cast was for he sake of diversity. Wake up. Do you know the real story... ?
I met Shatner back in the late Seventies, when he was excited about the upcoming "Star Trek - The Motion Picture" theatrical release. It was in Atlanta at one of the early Star Trek Conventions.
I got his autograph and had a brief verbal exchange with him. I found him to be most gracious and of good humor. He was entertaining and friendly...
I remember watching a special about Bill and everyone they interviewed said he was the nicest man in Hollywood, I would love to see him in the new Star Trek 4 reboot! If they can give old man Stewart his own Trek show , why not Sir William Shatner???
@@mitchelllepore4409quiet true!
No one cares about Sulu -- the show would have been a hit without him. Anyone could have played Sulu.
Kirk/Shatner, on the other hand, was an integral part of the success of Star Trek, period.
+lucas mccain I disagree, they're both important.
SULU IS DA BOMB!
What makes you think I haven't watched all of ToS?
@Eagle1 And when will it sink into your skull that I disagree that he is not important? Thinking that I would agree with you simply because you feel the need to tell me things I already know and have seen for myself shows exactly the kind of intellect you have. :)
@Eagle1 Now why would I do that? I am sorry, your grace, but I don't know you. - Jon Snow
There are two types of people, one who wants to force their tastes and opinions upon others, and others who are equally interested in the views of others. The latter brings more conversation.
You never really asked me why I think the way I do.
To add!
I am far more glorious, witty, and superior to you in every way. My sexual performance satisfaction rating is higher than yours for example. And my sword is longer than yours. To compare my mind to yours is like comparing Einstein to a sperm cell.
That! Is how banters should be done.
I feel like Takei doesn't really want to resolve this feud. It is probably rooted in genuine offense at some point; everybody seems to agree Shatner was no fun to work with... but Takei seems to have public encouragement to keep it going. He should ignore that, and extend an olive branch, for his own peace of mind.
James Doohan refused to speak with Shatner for many years and it wasn't until he was at death's door that they finally reconciled.
It's such as shame that at the end of "Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country" Shatner and Takei played the final scene so well where Kirk and Sulu part company on their respective ships and talk to each other like such close friends. Yet, in real life we have this. Ironic that the cast of Star Trek the Next Generation generally got along so well.
My mum and dad got divorced late 70s and watching star trek when my mum and dad was fighting and shouting was a way off escape for me and I idolized captain Kirk , when this great man dies it's going to be so tough for me , I wish bill a long life but damn I dread the day.
I like both actors, but William Shatner has always been one of my favorites. I love him in everything he does. George Takei is a fine actor, but the role of Sulu was easily replaceable in the original series. With the growth of Trek fandom, his profile grew to the point where the Sulu role became bigger than originally envisioned. It seems some of the actors who played the lesser roles are the one's who have the ego problems. Star Trek was always Kirk, Spock & McCoy. They are the only three irreplaceable characters, with Kirk being most important. Love you, Bill Shatner. Keep doing what you do. You are the man!
George should be happy he was not wearing a red uniform...aside from Scotty!
Mike Bryant lol. He wouldn’t have lasted very long wearing the red shirt.
And Scotty
DENNY CRANE!
Replaceable ? He was off with John Wayne making the Green Berets.
Star Trek wasn't his main focus. So he got treated in like manner.
The problem is the two of them have personalities that are too similar, both like to be the center of attention, but Takei has made no effort that I am aware of to make amends.
Of course not that would mean Takei's empire of disgruntlement and victimhood would collapse...
Don't all actors like to be the center of attention?
Takei was always jealous of Shatners success, plain and simple.
George never did talk face to face with Shatner over what bugged him the way Walter Koenig did. They managed to trash out all the issues Koenig had with Shatner, which Shatner didn't even realized that Koenig was upset with him.
Well said Shatner. WE all support you ,
Lets be honest, Shatner, Nimoy and Kelly were the stars of Trek. As much as I respect the rest of the TOS cast, they were the side characters. Takei just keep this feud going because it gets him attention.
It's only a feud if both sides are participating. What George has is a Pet Hate.
Well done Mr. Shatner !
That is weird about him wanting his own ship vs. having more lines/time in the movie. Who's on the ego trip there? Not Shatner.
The issue is that in Star Trek VI he was shown as commanding his own starship. I think they filmed a scene of him getting promoted and getting command but it was cut. There was also talk of a Star Trek show with Sulu commanding the Excelsior and maybe Takei blames Shatner for that not happening.
@@IrishCarney I'm glad that didn't happen.
@@LandersWorkshop Why? I think Sulu's swashbuckling style would have been fun. And he might have made "oh my" a huge catchphrase. I separate all that from Takei's political & other agenda, and from his seeming personal pettiness.
@@IrishCarney Yeah I see what you mean, but I think by the time ST VI came along George was too old and salty to pull off the swashbuckling style.
I too thought he was a cool dude in the 60s series and some of the films.
Little dies anyone know,these two guys got together and decided to make everyone think there is an axe to grind,for publicity reasons only.One of the oldest tricks in the book to keep your.popularity so people don't forget you.Great job guys,it worked as always.
Wow, I never thought of that, if it is true, it was a good idea
George should give up the anger on so many things!
+Don Diego Vega You really bought this low intellect response? He spent the entire 5 minutes trying to talk about himself and he speaks like he's donald trump. The guy has an ego, that much is obvious. They don't get along and Shatner is NOTORIOUS for being a hard to work with and demanding asshole. That doesn't mean he's automatically the worst person in the world, but it does entitle others to criticize his attitude if it's affecting them.
THE SHATMAN? !!!!!!!!!
+NerdRagerGaming So glad you said he sounds like Donald Trump because that's exactly what I was thinking.
THE SHATMAN is a liberal...
It is pretty ironic that Takei complains about Shatner above a huge ego, when he himself gets to bask in all the attention for his endless grudge. Whatever it's about, it's been over nearly fifty years. TIME TO LET IT GO.
Thank you Serai3. Exactly!!!
Takei has as many if not more fans than Shatner nowadays. He didn't like him, you have no idea what happened, that's that.
Devon Childress
Neither do YOU, so you can just climb down off that high horse, Missy Thing.
Goerge and America about Cuba...see any similarity???
No one has a high horse to sit on when you're both comparing and insulting each other's egos for 50 years and neither man can admit it.. lol
You are a compassionate guy. Thank you for all the drama, laughs, and adventure, Mr. Shatner, since I was a boy!
I don't understand why a person would hold a feud for so long. I have met people that i really don't like and i feel that they are this and that but i just remove myself from them and i don't then have to be bothered by them ever again.
Whether William Shatner was a bad person or not to George Takei, George Takei should just forget about him and focus on his life and its future not past. Holding a grudge as silly as this makes him seem a little bit like he has "psychosis".
There you go. Finally someone said it. Move on George before whatever motives you are trying to accomplish backfires. If every time you are interviewed, Shatner is the only one negative you have to say Something about, you don't have a life.
Well said. Takei has envy psychosis.
The way Takei ripped into Shatner for his flight into space at 90 years old,
I'm sure Shatner at this point in his life and with the experience he's had could care less about Takei right now.
IMHO at this point this is nothing more than pure jealously on Takei's part and it just really makes him look petty more than anything else.
Hasn't anybody figured out yet that this "feud" is a clever publicity stunt? While Shatner and Takei are not close friends, they ARE consummate professional entertainers and know a good gig when they see it. This "feud" serves the needs of both men because it keeps them in the public eye and adds an element of notoriety to their otherwise moribund careers. They're having a good laugh over it, and so should we.
I would like 2C a raw nerve episode come outta this w/ George
It's been speculated by tons of people for years, including myself. It's good publicity. It's not that "nobody has figured it out" lol... it's just that the fool makes an absolute conclusion while the wise just says what's likely...
I agree. But if they are really feuding I hope for some sort of reconciliation before they die. Arguing like this tarnishes the memory of a great program. Life is too short. They shouldn't take a grudge to their graves.
Takei has recently said that Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner were never friends and that their friendship was "just something fans made up." However Nimoy has spoken of his friendship with Shatner on several occasions (including both his autobiographies), so clearly what Takei has said is not true. Shatner has said how it still hurts how things between Leonard and him ended. So it seems that Takei has been talking maliciously deliberately to hurt Shatner.
You love each other, peace love and forgiveness, you're both awesome
"...Obviously, if he can feel love and have a FRUITFUL life..." 👀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just take a look at George Takeis twitter feed. He is just a negative person all around.
Trump Derangement Sydrome really hit him hard. I saw the other day him calling Trump the worst President in US history. Which wouldn't be such a crazy thing to say, except when you remember that FDR literally put his entire family in an internment camp for 3 years... I mean. Get some perspective dude.
Hobo Aquatics I stopped following Takei when he went bonkers over Trump winning the Presidential election. Shatner was just the icing on the cake.
Takei is just a negative SJW
@Jev Dedalus Gaming Wishful thinking.
Do you know what happened to all the "Obama is the anti-christ" loons after Obama left office and the Apocalypse still hadn't been wrought?
Yeah, neither do I, but you should find out, cause that's where YOU'LL be 6 years from now too...
@Jev Dedalus Gaming Your face when he won must have been priceless.
George is so full of envy. Star trek was the highlight of his career and he had to stay all the way behind shatter.
They are both egotistic, but Shatner is smarter about it. I love them on screen in TOS, but I find those silly diva behaviors disappointing.
@@lawnmowermanTX So you base your opinions of people based on their birthday? SMH.
@@lawnmowermanTX yet you here to reply.. jack ass
@@Paul-sours no I will not commit suicide to ease your hateful feelings about me and no i wont have sex with you!!!
I don't think it's Bill's ego that Takes is afraid of, it's his charisma, the way he commands attention just by entering a room that comes from being a star for as long as Shatner has been. Takei can't bear the thought of being over-shadowed, which begs the question, who is the real narcissist here?
I don't think anyone should think too deeply about these exchanges between Shatner and Takai. It's just a bit of bantering, that's been going on for some years, that seems to keep the interest of a few Star Track fans.
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I am team Shatner. Loved him as "The Big Giant Head". I've also seen him do standup and he's hilarious. Star Trek was great, but I'm a fan of the man, not just the characters he played.
What made you think this video was about you?
@rodneyharrington5049 don't you just love the internet? You can be unjustifiably rude to a complete stranger!
George Takei is a professional victim. From the Japanese internment camp he lived in as a child to being gay. The man needs to get over himself and whatever hardships he may have had in his life. Shatner is so jovial and positive.
It's easy to say that when you have not gone through those experiences yourself. I couldn't even begin to imagine what it must have been like.
Let's throw your ass into a concentration camp in your own fucking country and see how your attitude changes. Your biggest talent is being an asshole.
Mend the fence, dudes. Life is short.
Bill has been trying to for a very long time. It's George that isn't responding other than to make snide comments that is.
Shatner has a history of alienating people. Nimoy absolutely refused to talk to him for the last five years of his own life.
I don't think they were very close to begin with. Nothing to mend here really.
@@alecaquino4306 You don't have to have been close to end hostilities.
@@mysterytrain3 Then what exactly is being 'mended' if there was no close relationship to begin with?
i imagine this may stem from George being attracted to Bill - at least in the old days - this seems like bitterness from an unrequited love :(
Oooohhh. Now, THERE'S a juicy angle to this. Good call.
I agree. George Takei has been holding onto this grudge for too long. I read somewhere that William Shatner didn't know that George was gay back on Star Trek and that the only person who knew was Gene Roddenberry. One of the reasons that Gene hired George,besides him being asian,was because he was gay. When he was pitching Star Trek,Gene told NBC that he wanted to include lots of diversity on the bridge and he did. But,besides just including race,he wanted to also include homosexuals because in Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future all of humanity gets along. Men and women,gay and straight,black and white,Gene just saw everybody getting along. That is the foundation that the Federation is built upon after all-cooperation. But,here's the key thing now,even though Gene knew George is gay and accepted it,if NBC knew they would not accept it,especially not on the bridge in a place of prominence. It was 1966,after all. So,Gene Roddenberry kept George Takei's sexuality a secret. No one on the crew knew,especially William Shatner. So,maybe George and him had an encounter behind the scenes and he might've gotten more rough emotionally with George than he should have. But he's not gay and George probably assumed that he knew. Things probably spiraled after that and just got worser and worser. So,who knows,right? Something to think about,huh?
@@johnnydiamond79 maybe.. a lot of speculation. And it's "worse and worse".
@@johnnydiamond79 That's more than likely. Also on a different note one of the actresses playing the Yeoman woman was apparently raped by one of the producers / directors, which is why she didn't do too many episodes and left the show.
@@LandersWorkshop Yes, I heard and read about this. Her name was Grace Lee Whitney. She played Yeoman Janice Rand. She was originally supposed to be Captain Kirk's love interest on the show per NBC.
But Gene Roddenberry fought hard to keep him single because he felt that if the Captain had a steady love interest that the show and the character of Captain Kirk himself would stagnate and the audience would grow tiresome of the show faster. If you're interested in learning more about Grace Lee Whitney, she has an autobiography that's very interesting to read. She was an addict of many things and that's another reason for her being fired from Star Trek. Many different factors came into play when she was fired from Star Trek.
Because she was fired from Star Trek. The incident you described did happen. It's in her book. But Grace Lee Whitney was a sex addict and that was known by a lot of people who knew her back then.
Rape is rape. But the producer who attacked her was a very powerful man and he played a part in getting her fired. He figured because she was a sex addict that she just slept with anybody and that wasn't true. It's all in her book if you want to read it.
I recommend it. She overcomes a lot to finally build a life for herself. Live long and prosper, Watch Ryder 🖖.
From day one of all of this, I have known what this was all about. George cannot stand not being the center of attention, and William Shatner eclipses him. Every role Shatner has ever had he has knocked out of the park. Denny Crane? No WAY George could EVER in a million years, do something remotely as good.
Actually, Shatner's acting "style" is a national joke. Haven't you seen the late-night comedians making fun of him?
@@switchbladekid57 That is heresy!!! How do you explain his IMDB then? He is always on TV or in movies well into his 90's he has been a working actor. With 253 Acting credits, TONS of Emmys, Shatner is one of the GOATS.
@@Wayneraltman He does have two Emmys and was great as Denny Craig. However, he has frequently been just awful, something most easily seen when he shared the screen with Patrick Stewart. I do admit that my opinion is colored by his truly awful personality but I also studied acting--at the Lee Strasberg Institute--and would never have been allowed to act as badly as he often has.
I like both guys But Shatner was a star and George was a glorified extra.
That’s very true... however, Shatner is kind of a drama queen and I wouldn’t be surprised if the truth is somewhere in the middle.
ITs obvious Takei fell in love with Shatner when he met him on the original series and when Shatner rejected him, Takei became furious and has held a grudge ever since. It didnt help that Shatner made fun of him behind his back.
Hi, I just wanted to say that I love Mr Shatner. The roles he portrayed played a very important part of my upbringing especially after my father died when I was 13. I was lucky enough to have a few pleasant and good natured interactions with him on Twitter. Unfortunately, I mentioned one of his characters and how he takes no nonsense. Unfortunately, the conversation strayed into politics when a few of my followers mentioned Brexit. I know Mr Shatner doesn’t like getting involved in politics (something I’ve always liked about him). Unfortunately, he blocked me. Please would you extend my deepest apologies to Mr Shatner on my behalf as I would never wish to cause him any frustration, grief or trouble. I am truly very sorry. Mr Shatner, thank you for being an important part of my life when I needed some escapism and hope.
Kind regards
Always
Sorry but jealously will get him no where. Takei is clearly jealous the fact William was the star. William had a TV career of which Takei had none. Not to mention successful in business. Takei is a child who cannot grow up that he was not the star William was. Takei is a unsuccessful child of which without William never would have done anything.
Have you ever even been around Shatner??? I have at DragonCon and he has to be the center of attention. Want to make Shatner mad? I've seen someone do this. Tell him that you like Leonard Nimoy more and watch what happens. I'm sure there are other people that would vouch for me on this.
His 8 million FB followers say differently.
Devon Childress Tell that to Shatner's $100 million net worth.
Takei I liked him in orig. start trek but seems later he got a BAD case of the D.A. 's
Takei seemed to make a bunch of $ on the Howard Stern show. He was great. And I love Bill; his huge ego included!
"I didn't want to remind him that this was fiction, and not reality. I didn't want to destroy his world."
I love both these actors, but Bill is just about my all-time favorite actor. George, even if you are in the right, maybe you can put aside the enmity and let all the bad feelings go. Both of you should get together to talk about this. It's not worth the hard feelings and anxiety for both of you. The "back and forth" stuff always makes things worse. You're both better men than this.
Bill... your doing just fine.....he's got a beef from a perspective I dont think you'll ever imagine.
+Ed Weibe It's more accurate to say that he has a beef from a perspective Shatner will never *comprehend*. Considering how many other cast members have had similar issues with him, it's not really that hard to know who's more likely to be telling the truth and who (notice the singular there) isn't.
The way I've always seen it is that back then Shatner was the lead of Star Trek, which the reality of it is he was. The show entirely rode on his shoulders. Not Nimoy. Not Kelley. And certainly not Takei. Shatner is a classically-trained, professional actor. Let that sink in, that this description is not some throw-away hyped line to make him look good. He was working his ass off even before Star Trek came along. If he looked at one of the Star Trek scripts, and questioned the writers of the logic of having Sulu or any other supporting character in a scene when they really weren't necessary to the story, I would expect him to balls out bring it up to get the writing fixed. Which probably happened a lot, and because of it likely cost the other actors some scenes and lots of misguided resentment.
That they could perceive it as "Oh, Bill is a egotistical, scene-hogging ahole" clearly speaks as to why everyone outside of Shatner never rose above their Star Trek fame. Publicly denouncing Shatner? Who is really being the unprofessional one here? Shatner continues to work on non-Trek stuff, regardless of whether it might end up being hit or miss, because he does it as a profession. What have the others done? They have never used their Trek clout to do anything else except ride the Trek interview cash cow.
The problem: Shatner wasn't actually questioning the logic of having this character or that say a line, he was making sure that he had most of the dialogue. Leonard Nimoy almost left at the end of ST's first season because Bill was always taking lines from him. It was a dick move.
I love them Both William Shatner and George Takei...
I love them all. I do. I love what they created together. I don't think we will ever know the complete truth. When you put big personalities together, many of them with their own eccentricities and mix them together it's inevitable that there's going to be issues. I suspect William Shatner has a tendency toward narcissism, and narcissist usually can't see anything wrong in themselves. They can talk a good game at trying to dismiss behavior. George Taki has the same issue. Leonard Nimoy was a bit narcissistic but I'm guessing was the codependent with Shatner. So, you've got a complex set of personalities and egos bouncing off each other. George needs to grow up because all he's accomplished is making Shatner look better and he has carried his anger far too long. He's never gotten passed his bitterness and preconceived notions of what actually went on during the filming. Did he ever ask Shatner or the directors or Gene Rodenberry what was going on? Voice his concern? I'm not really expecting a response. Just saying too many big egos. I still love classic Star Trek and everyone involved. Without them and their talent there of course would be no Star Trek.
Is it just me, or are there more people besides myself that want to fix those blinds behind Shat?
I saw that immediately. I was wondering if those are those lousy terrible "cordless venetian blinds" which are quite common now to appease the lawyers. (corded venetian blinds apparently can strangle small kids and cats, if you leave the cord hanging down). I prefer corded venetian blinds and I keep the rope up higher so the cat wont mess with it.
Wow this interviewer is rude and unprofessional
Isn't it his daughter?
2:52 Star Trek is Real people! Galaxy Quest was a coded message to the enlightened among us. And so is the Shatner's statement here. We must prepare for the alien invasion!
By Grabthar's Hammer you will live long and prosper.
That Shatner had an ego and other Star Trek castmates had issues with him is well known, but Takei needs to let this go. Almost 13 years after this video was posted and George is STILL bitter and hateful! For goodness sake Shatner was the LEAD of the series - and TOS was NOT an ensemble show in the way the later movies and TNG, DS9 and VOY were.
With TNG one week there was a 'Data' episode; the next week a 'Crusher' episode, followed by a 'Worf' episode then a 'Picard' one. That's not how TOS worked. The show was Kirk, front and centre, with Spock and Bones either side. The rest were a support act - a damn good one which is why they followed into the movies, which were an ensemble - but they were a support act in the original series.
I recently re-watched TOS season 2 and Sulu is HARDLY THERE! Whole episodes go by and he's not even in the background at the helm. Just like Shatner said once, "George was on set maybe one day a week for a few hours and then gone." Takei may feel like Bill Shatner stole his limelight but he's delusional about what his place was in 60s Star Trek.
I'm such a fan of Willliam Shatner. He's been such an inspiration and source of joy. Watching this interview only makes me appreciate him more. I do feel the interviewer was a *tad* biased towards George and injecting her "you know what you should do" comment was quite unprofessional so Mr. Shatner handled even that with the level of decorum and grace of a real starship captain. 😌💖👍
You would think Takei was his son, the way he goes on about Shatner. He should be glad Shatner and Nimoy created two characters that guaranteed Takei an income stream. Takei's non-Trek credits are pretty skimpy.
well, to be fair, Hollywood did not have too many roles available for Asian actors,
and in many instances, white actors portrayed Asians on screen with makeup.
I suspect that at some point in the past that George Takei wanted to get behind William Shatner. Bill didn't want any part of it :)
I bet Bill would like to believe that.
I agree. I bet Takei had a thing for Shatner and upon being spurned has been a bitch ever since
satchmodan My sister insists on this. But I once read somewhere that Shatner would bang anything (adult of course) with 2 legs.
lmao
satchmodan He is such a bitchy man! Shatner just jokes around! Not a bad man.
Maybe Mr. Takei had a secret crush on mr. Shatner? ;)
"Hell hath no wrath like a woman scorned."
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@@gordonrose7097 I think the phrase is "Oh, my!" 😉
He wanted his Captains Log
Hehe...wouldn't be surprised
Shatner attended McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, and when I attended back in the 90s, we voted to rename the Student Union building to the William Shatner building in his honour.
The "feud" between Shatner and Takei could be just a good publicity stunt for George. Bill is very good at actually creating his own real PR worthy attention.
The one thing I've noticed about George Takei (aside from his excellent skill with puns) is his penchant for cognitive dissonance. I don't think he's got too big an ego, but he's certainly not self-aware enough to realize his hypocrisy, ie. his constant attacks on Shatner coupled with claims that Bill is the one being the jerk.
We love you Bill forever
Mr. Shatner thank you for being the humanitarian in Star Trek and TJ Hooker. The characters you played were heroes. Also, Happy birthday. The great thing about being 90 years old is you can say things and get away with it. You look like you are in your 60s. Stay active and truck.
Takei talks about Shatners ego , sure he had a bit of an ego , Shater was the #1 star of the show.
Important part to remember though is that Shatner didn't choose to be the big star , the fans made him that , and he played the part well.
"All the world is a stage"
George Takei and his partner had a Civil Partnership not a wedding lets get that straight first
This feud with William Shatner and George Takei has been going on for a very long time and I can't see things changing anytime soon I'm sad to say
George is a boring drama queen. Loves the lime light, loves the applause, hates not being Captain Kirk
Shatner is such a phenomenal actor.
Takei is upset that Shatner got the great majority of on screen visibility, dialogue and close ups? Is that right? Captain Kirk was obviously the lead role and the scripts were written geared toward Shatner and his "over acting" appeal. I do not understand why is Takei mad at Shatner? Shatner was just playing the part like he thought it was best to be done in the show. His style of overacting is actually comical and entertaining and certainly one reason why fans really liked watching Star Trek. What did he do wrong? I am a fan but not a Trekie so I do not know, I don't quite understand what does Takei think Shatner did that was wrong?
@xxx yyy I would have advised them to look for other roles on TV or in movies when they were not busy working on Star Trek. If you want a change, often it is hard work that will help you attain your goals. They also could have quit if they were very successful when they got roles in movies or TV. Like Tavolta did. That is very rare, though. I would have thought that they would be happy to be working (period) as an actor, Most cant. Just be your best in the role you have and audition for other roles in spare time.
If you really shine in your performance as Sulu, writers will use you more in storylines. That is how Spock got so big. Originally he and McCoy were not necessarily going to be so big in story lines in Star Trek. Fans liked Spock, so writers gave Leonard Nimoy more air time and he became nearly as big as Kirk (William Shatner).
By all accounts Shatner plays a lot of not so nice games with people in order to further his career, such as getting screen writers to cut someone else’s lines so he gets more prominence, but in interviews he’s sweetness and light, and can’t understand why people have a go at him. That said, it’d be better for him if Takei just said what annoyed him, rather than taking swipes at Shatner.
Perhaps George sent Shatner an invitation as an after thought, to an address Shatner could never have received it. Then again, maybe he is jealous of Shatner’s success and even in the original series, Shatner had much more camera time. It’s a shame, but no one can make another person like them.
Does anyone have the sketch Bill did on SNL where he was in his boxers and t-shirt talking about sexy he was. It was the same show where he pokes fun of the Star Trekk fans with his famous, "Get a life" speech.
Glenn Drake ...Man...I remember seeing that when it first aired!!
Today, Leonard Nimoy passed away.
If William Shatner and George Takei were to bury WHATEVER hatchet, and just let bygones be bygones, no matter WHO is/was at fault, and for this-ever-or-what-ever reason, just let it ALL fall by the wayside for the memory of Doohan, Kelley, and Nimoy, and especially RODDENBERRY, that would do SO much for the fans who have loved and supported them through nearly FIFTY years of loving this show.
Nimoy has passed away.
Come ON, guys.
Can a missed wedding invitation be so important to you that you fracture a fanbase that made your careers?
Or can fracture a fanbase that Gene Roddenberry worked so hard to create?
Come on. Bill. George. Nichelle. Walter.
Can you NOT work together to reunite the TOS crew in the new universe????
SERIOUSLY????
Come ON, y'all.
We have supported you since 1966!
Can you support us ONE MORE TIME???
Let bygones be bygones. For the FANS.
ONE more voyage for NC-1701?
For Leonard, for James, for Gene, for DeForrest?
ONE more voyage?
B Ropous agreed
They both look horrible sniping at each other at this point
B Ropous Well I mean is this still going on today...? This was from like 2008, after all... are they still at it?
Good point, MastaGambit.
*****
Yes, I agree with both of those things, Shatner's a conceited cock and George is a pretty nice guy. But regardless, they both have a grudge that they're clearly holding. :\
***** Aye.
Takei always comes across as childish in all of his interviews when throwing barbs at Shatner. Anyone who publicly insults a person (Conan show) in public when they are not around is a coward and childish. He's petty and pitiful.
What I like about this: Shatner owns up to his faults and responds to Takei honestly. I think it’s sort of a battle of egos. And I agree-I wish they would bury the hatchet. Takei has a big ego also and out of all the celebrities, Shatner doesn’t really discuss politics on Twitter and Takei does and I hate politics. Either way I do hope things are settled before it’s too late.
I believe Shatner and Takei are both reasonable. This is simply a case of different personalities clashing together, and somehow on the job this spiraled into some animosity. I wish them the best.
He is not the only person that has worked with Shatner that has had a problem. The only thing I have to say is Shatner's enemies have one thing in common, Shatner's ego. hmmm?
did George actually go on the show and talk to William, that I would love to see
I can't help thinking this feud is just plain good publicity for both of them.
I have never spotted an ounce of fakery on the part of Takei on this issue.
These two are ACTORS. I am simply skeptical.
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Just because you act fake for a living doesn't mean you are fake in real life.
I might have believed that ten or twenty years ago.
That feud is real. Shatner actually doesn't know why Takei is mad at him. Patrick Stewart has tried to settle it and couldn't.
I don't think George would have invited William Shatner to his wedding day, simply because he was probably afraid that William would steal the show yet again. Let's face it, TOS couldn't have survived without William Shatner, but had George been removed, would he had been so greatly missed? I don't think so!
I just think that when you take a step back to look at the wider picture, George Takei, Walter Koenig, Nichelle Nichols and James Doohan have all made unflattering comments about William Shatner, even Leonard Nimoy fell out with him several times and hadn't spoken to him in five years leading up to his death, then Shatner brings out a book on their 50 years of friendship!
I think the common denominator here is that William Shatner is the one everyone falls out with, he was a very egotistical individual with vanity issues and he grabbed the limelight at the cost of his co-stars.
When he wrote and directed star trek V it was all about him, the focus was on Jim Kirk telling 'God' to go do one!
When you see these interviews he throws praise towards the people that have fallen out with him so he looks humble and benevolent and he often says 'I don't know why' when talking about why a fellow cast member has issue with him. He won't ever portray himself in a negative way and works very hard at presenting himself in a positive way, but ultimately when so many people fall out with you it's because you're the problem not them.
Poor little victim Takei, big bad mean agressor Shatner. To the average ear, all this sounds a bit one sided and distorted. Not to mention that Takei is homosexual, so necessarily he's the good guy, right? Please, let's stop demonizing Shatner, it's getting old.
Don't care to take sides, but I met George Takei once (not at a convention), and personally experienced his meanness. Not a fan.
love him or hate him , you will never discount him
George Takei just can’t get over the fact that he is only a glorified extra.. I mean, I’ve never seen him in anything but Star Trek, and William Shatner has been in all kinds of stuff... sounds to me like a chronic case of butt-hurt... 😂🤣. No pun intended for Takei..
I find it sad that two people who have known and worked together for so long can't find some common ground and just let bygones be bygones.
They are both in their eighties now and time is limited life is too short to hold grudges and they won't realise until it is too late.
Takei is under the impression a big ego is bad. A big fragile ego is bad, dangerous even, but Shatner is clearly not a fragile personality, but he does have a big, bold, entertaining ego. Takei on the other hand has an overinflated, fragile ego. Constantly tearing down others to boost his own fragile ego.
George was lucky. Shatner was the Star,and could have had his Sulu character written out.