Travis is very dangerous! When he gets the opportunity to speak to people that is actually willing to listen, It is magical! I have watched every single videos as far as I know and I'm always waiting for the next one to come and this one was such a great treat to see this morning! I have learn so much in this video! Thank you! ❤❤❤
This has to be my absolute favourite video of yours that I've seen. It is a true breath of fresh air to have someone on the other side of the conversation that is a good faith actor. I had just finished the video with Paul and Logan (the father who was a pastor and his son) that you did with Robert. It was hard to watch, and not just because of the complete lack of understanding and unwillingness to think... but because it reminded me, almost verbatim in places, of conversations I've had with my own mother. (I converted from being a Southern Baptist at age nineteen.) This was the absolute perfect video to help pull me out of the trauma rabbit hole that was. I truly appreciate your thoughtful and critical examination of the scriptures and the Theology of the restored gospel. You've helped me unpack and discard some of my Protestant theological baggage that I didn't even know I was carrying. Thank you, for that. And thank you for doing this. I'm somewhat aware of how exhausting these kinds of things can be. It helps a lot of people. I wish I was able to be in your friend group. Y'all seem to be precisely the kind of folks with whom I enjoy associating. Best wishes, to you and your family. P.S.~Thanks for the book suggestions!
When he started writing down the websites and research materials you were suggesting, I figured this guy was here to really, actually have a convo. That’s was one of those, dare I say, “sunshine” moments. I really hope well for this guy. Very well intentioned, and enjoy seeing and witnessing how easily you share and converse with folks. Cheers!
Finally got done listening! Great discussion. It's always neat when someone is willing to at the very least be correct on their misunderstandings and also to learn what we believe and why. Great video as always Travis. Thank you for these. I always learn something, whether that is about the gospel or simply how to explain things in a better way.
Love the ones who recognize they are talking to someone who has done some deep studying and they stop and listen. You can see Dwight lean in and pay attention. 🏴☠️
This has got to be one of my favourite videos of your Travis. And just so you know, many of us on the Ward Radio Discord Server, both share, and enjoy your videos immensely. They get posted over there almost as soon as they drop here.
When I first read _The Road Less Traveled_ over 20 years ago I was hit by Peck saying sometimes conversion is an "oh sh*t" phenomenon: "O Lord, do I have to?"
It's interesting how you kind of tipped your hand as to how you usually address different arguments, to positive outcome. You steel manned his argument and then explaned how you would normally address that argument. Dwight, for his part, generally recognized that and as such didnt take the same openly antagonistic and silly positions that are often taken by Protestants. Even if he goes away from this discussion unconvinced (and I'm writing this with still 30 minutes to go) he still has a thorough understanding of how different interpretations of a complex text can be simplified by simply reading the text. And hopefully he will realize that a closed canon is ultimately not a reasonable position. Great discussion! I wish Dwight the best and hope this conversation sticks with him.
Cyprian writing to Donatus (~245 AD): As the sun shines spontaneously, as the day gives light, as the fountain flows, as the shower yields moisture, so does the heavenly Spirit infuse itself into us. When the soul, in its gaze into heaven, has recognised its Author, it rises higher than the sun, and far transcends all this earthly power, and begins to be that which it believes itself to be. Be constant as well in prayer as in reading; now speak with God, now let God speak with you, let Him instruct you in His precepts, let Him direct you. Excerpt from: New Advent > Fathers of the Church > Epistles (Cyprian of Carthage) > Epistle 1
What an enjoyable 2 hours and 4 minutes that was. It was truly a masterclass taught by a masterful teacher. I sat there like a sponge taking it all in. Travis has a way with words when he explains our doctrines and concepts, and he does it with such confidence and flair, clarity and insight, that learning from him through these videos has been an enjoyable experience and has changed my whole outlook and approach on how I read our standard works. I have all the books he has recommended and have read them all (including Boylan's book on Sola Scriptura), and as a result have discovered some new ones, which I recommend: "Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes" (E. Randolph Richards/Brandon J. O'brien), and "Grace is Not God's Backup Plan" (Adam S. Miller). I also enjoy the other side of Travis though...the Pirate side. It seems sometimes he has to let these Evangelical scalawags (Apologia Durbanites) understand who the captain is behind the helm. At the end of each debate, I've seen the Pirate make them, "Walk the Plank," or, "Kiss the Gunners Daughter," or has to bark out orders like, "Tie that Scurvy Dog to the Yardarm", or "Keel-haul that Scurvy Dog." I'm looking forward to the day the Pirate meets up with "Pastor" Jeff. 50 lashes with a cat o' nine tail for that dude. Someday if I get good enough at Apologetics, I'll become an "Assistant to the Pirate."
Exactly! I do that too, in fact I've traveled south to see it, and there are so many everyday observations anyone can make. Whenever I see comments that the Earth is flat, I simply say: nah bruh, I checked.
If people aren’t spirits that came to Earth to inhabit created bodies then when someone dies what part of them proceeds to an afterlife like the rich man in the Lazarus parable?
... when the earth was first created, it was flat - with a firm structure formed above it to hold back the waters and such. but! due to the hydrostatic pressures involved with a worldwide flood, the earth was crushed into a sphere. that's my story and I'm sticking to it :)
Keep watching his videos he answers it a lot. First by explaining the historical fact that ancient Israelites aren’t monotheists. They are more like henotheists. LDS only worship one God. We worship the Father in the name of the Son and the Holy Spirit bears witness of their reality.
It kinda pisses me off cause that guy did not want to learn anything new. Hes too old and prideful. He's just wasting Travis time. But i will say we learn from this. 😅
@luizaraos.soteroluiz5327 I hope it's not the "same thing" all the time, but I love the topics and materials. I imagine anyone in a position to answer questions finds themselves being repetitious respecting the information they provide. It's true of anything with which you obtain to a level of proficiency that you will be requested to answer similar questions often.
Travis is very dangerous! When he gets the opportunity to speak to people that is actually willing to listen, It is magical! I have watched every single videos as far as I know and I'm always waiting for the next one to come and this one was such a great treat to see this morning! I have learn so much in this video! Thank you! ❤❤❤
I’ve watched so many of these now, I can spot an internal eye roll from Travis a mile away.😂
For real me too
I'm addicted to these videos. I'm getting my fix.
Need at least one video a day. That, or intervention and therapy. 😂😂
I share the same sentiment
Don’t worry. You are not alone in this feeling.
This has to be my absolute favourite video of yours that I've seen.
It is a true breath of fresh air to have someone on the other side of the conversation that is a good faith actor.
I had just finished the video with Paul and Logan (the father who was a pastor and his son) that you did with Robert. It was hard to watch, and not just because of the complete lack of understanding and unwillingness to think... but because it reminded me, almost verbatim in places, of conversations I've had with my own mother. (I converted from being a Southern Baptist at age nineteen.)
This was the absolute perfect video to help pull me out of the trauma rabbit hole that was.
I truly appreciate your thoughtful and critical examination of the scriptures and the Theology of the restored gospel.
You've helped me unpack and discard some of my Protestant theological baggage that I didn't even know I was carrying.
Thank you, for that. And thank you for doing this. I'm somewhat aware of how exhausting these kinds of things can be. It helps a lot of people. I wish I was able to be in your friend group. Y'all seem to be precisely the kind of folks with whom I enjoy associating. Best wishes, to you and your family.
P.S.~Thanks for the book suggestions!
I love it when the learner is humble enough to just let Travis talk. When he gets going, man, love it Travis!
When he started writing down the websites and research materials you were suggesting, I figured this guy was here to really, actually have a convo. That’s was one of those, dare I say, “sunshine” moments. I really hope well for this guy. Very well intentioned, and enjoy seeing and witnessing how easily you share and converse with folks. Cheers!
Finally got done listening! Great discussion. It's always neat when someone is willing to at the very least be correct on their misunderstandings and also to learn what we believe and why.
Great video as always Travis. Thank you for these. I always learn something, whether that is about the gospel or simply how to explain things in a better way.
Finally! New content, I’ve been starved, I can’t get enough of these
2 hours long! Perfect for errands today!
This guys a good dude. Awesome Christian hopefully a lot more out there like him
Thank you for teaching about Heavens and Glory. Brilliant
About halfway through, but Its nice to see someone learning something. I think he came away with a way better understanding of LDS theology
I think Dwight is a good guy. Fairly receptive and willing to listen. One of the better ones I’ve seen on here
It's amazing the turn this took once Dwight turned on his camera, a little human connection can go a long way
Yes!!! The Pirate strikes again.
Love the ones who recognize they are talking to someone who has done some deep studying and they stop and listen. You can see Dwight lean in and pay attention. 🏴☠️
It’s thanks to you Travis, 2nd Nephi 29 is now my new favorite chapter in the Book of Mormon
A good conversation is where Travis talks 90% of the time.
This has got to be one of my favourite videos of your Travis.
And just so you know, many of us on the Ward Radio Discord Server, both share, and enjoy your videos immensely.
They get posted over there almost as soon as they drop here.
This one was great!
Wow, Dwight was a quality dude.
He seems to have an open mind and soft heart.
Pleasant surprise to wake up to a new video
Been waiting! Awesome
When I first read _The Road Less Traveled_ over 20 years ago I was hit by Peck saying sometimes conversion is an "oh sh*t" phenomenon: "O Lord, do I have to?"
High fives for Dwight, here. ✋
It's interesting how you kind of tipped your hand as to how you usually address different arguments, to positive outcome. You steel manned his argument and then explaned how you would normally address that argument. Dwight, for his part, generally recognized that and as such didnt take the same openly antagonistic and silly positions that are often taken by Protestants. Even if he goes away from this discussion unconvinced (and I'm writing this with still 30 minutes to go) he still has a thorough understanding of how different interpretations of a complex text can be simplified by simply reading the text. And hopefully he will realize that a closed canon is ultimately not a reasonable position. Great discussion! I wish Dwight the best and hope this conversation sticks with him.
Christmas came early!
Just starting and this Dwight is being purposely obtuse. “I don’t see the 3 degrees of glory when he talks about the moon sun and stars…” 🙄
@@alejandrovalenzuela377, he was a good faith actor ultimately.
Cyprian writing to Donatus (~245 AD):
As the sun shines spontaneously,
as the day gives light,
as the fountain flows,
as the shower yields moisture,
so does the heavenly Spirit infuse itself into us.
When the soul, in its gaze into heaven,
has recognised its Author,
it rises higher than the sun,
and far transcends all this earthly power,
and begins to be that which it believes itself to be.
Be constant as well in prayer as in reading;
now speak with God,
now let God speak with you,
let Him instruct you in His precepts,
let Him direct you.
Excerpt from:
New Advent > Fathers of the Church > Epistles (Cyprian of Carthage) > Epistle 1
Thanks Travis!
What an enjoyable 2 hours and 4 minutes that was. It was truly a masterclass taught by a masterful teacher. I sat there like a sponge taking it all in. Travis has a way with words when he explains our doctrines and concepts, and he does it with such confidence and flair, clarity and insight, that learning from him through these videos has been an enjoyable experience and has changed my whole outlook and approach on how I read our standard works.
I have all the books he has recommended and have read them all (including Boylan's book on Sola Scriptura), and as a result have discovered some new ones, which I recommend: "Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes" (E. Randolph Richards/Brandon J. O'brien), and "Grace is Not God's Backup Plan" (Adam S. Miller).
I also enjoy the other side of Travis though...the Pirate side. It seems sometimes he has to let these Evangelical scalawags (Apologia Durbanites) understand who the captain is behind the helm. At the end of each debate, I've seen the Pirate make them, "Walk the Plank," or, "Kiss the Gunners Daughter," or has to bark out orders like, "Tie that Scurvy Dog to the Yardarm", or "Keel-haul that Scurvy Dog." I'm looking forward to the day the Pirate meets up with "Pastor" Jeff. 50 lashes with a cat o' nine tail for that dude.
Someday if I get good enough at Apologetics, I'll become an "Assistant to the Pirate."
@@April61830 you are way too kind.
i love when travis yaps
Flat earth is my favorite. I just go outside and in north America ask them to point out the southern cross in the night sky for me 😂
Exactly! I do that too, in fact I've traveled south to see it, and there are so many everyday observations anyone can make. Whenever I see comments that the Earth is flat, I simply say: nah bruh, I checked.
1:08:24 so well said, Travis!
Let’s go
If people aren’t spirits that came to Earth to inhabit created bodies then when someone dies what part of them proceeds to an afterlife like the rich man in the Lazarus parable?
"Where in the Bible..." is where they always screw up. The Bible itself teaches that prophets are the ultimate mortal authority, not scripture.
... when the earth was first created, it was flat - with a firm structure formed above it to hold back the waters and such. but! due to the hydrostatic pressures involved with a worldwide flood, the earth was crushed into a sphere. that's my story and I'm sticking to it :)
Hey Travis, How should one respond to those who accuse us of being polytheistic?
Keep watching his videos he answers it a lot. First by explaining the historical fact that ancient Israelites aren’t monotheists. They are more like henotheists. LDS only worship one God. We worship the Father in the name of the Son and the Holy Spirit bears witness of their reality.
@@joeriv4151got it, thanks!
It kinda pisses me off cause that guy did not want to learn anything new. Hes too old and prideful. He's just wasting Travis time. But i will say we learn from this. 😅
How come you (Travis) do not get tired of discussing the same things over and over again? It must be very tiring.
@luizaraos.soteroluiz5327 I hope it's not the "same thing" all the time, but I love the topics and materials. I imagine anyone in a position to answer questions finds themselves being repetitious respecting the information they provide. It's true of anything with which you obtain to a level of proficiency that you will be requested to answer similar questions often.
@missionarydiscussions1286 You're right, brother.
Do you ever get tired of schooling people on the Bible who claim to be studying the Bible?
It's okay. He's at Calvary Chapel, so we can't expect much