also as someone who is absolutely awful at putting things, especially feelings, into words, maal's metaphors and reflections are soooo helpful i will be using them
its interesting to think that when you’re in that dark mental space you literally hate yourself and you blame yourself for everything, and then you get out of it and it gets better and you don’t hate or blame that past version of yourself that couldn’t get better, you just wish to comfort and validate them, and tell them that it will, in fact, get better
as someone whose been dealing with bpd since childhood and crippling trauma and depression, i really appreciate you opening up like this. it really is awesome when people with a platform open the conversations about hard things, and make people feel a little less alone. love you madeline
oh gosh this episode is so important to me you just narrated my exact journey over the last two years with getting help, it's like we were living similar parallel lives and we're now both on the other side and finally have our lives back. it was so validating hearing almost everything ive been through told from someone outside of me and remembering that i freaking did it and got better im so grateful
hi I also have bipolar 2 and relate to so much of what madeline experienced especially. i’m kind of in shock about how similar our experiences are/were even though everyone experiences are so unique. but it’s literally textbook illness, so it’s not our choice we are literally sick. have to take meds everyday too, I always say now I have a choice to do things when before I couldn’t. love you guys🩷
this episode was wonderful! thank you for sharing this truly, it’s refreshing to hear someone openly speak about a positive and successful medication experience! also, just wanted to let you girls know this is truly my new favorite podcast and you’re doing such a great job!!
"why don't you just squint harder" had me YELLING the glasses metaphor is so silly and hilarious to imagine but also genuinely so perfect?? madeline you are actually a genius
Speaking on the Joe Rogan conversation, I think it’s also important to remember that antidepressants/saris are not fun or even helpful if they are not needed. It is an issue in some communities where antidepressants are over prescribed and given to children very young and often unnecessary, but that is more so an issue with big pharma and the avoidance of mental health issues in themselves, not wanting to pay attention to your child and instead just prescribing meds without talking to them. The result of taking antidepressants unnecessarily and from a young age is not “not being able to deal with sadness” and is not easy and fun!!
Madeline, thank you so much for this episode. I give you so much credit talking about this on your platform and I found it really helpful to me personally. I would be very interested in you exploring topics like this in the future, to whatever extent you feel comfortable discussing it.
I love that you talk about not being the best person and partner and friend when you’re doing badly! It can feel SO shameful and affect how you view yourself as a person. It’s so nice to hear someone speak on it and that, even though your actions aren’t good and mental health isn’t an excuse, it doesn’t make you a bad person. Side note: I’ve been following for a while and I loved watching your videos while you were very depressed. Not in the way that I’m happy you’re depressed ofc, but it can be so comforting and inspiring to post about it. I wasn’t watching at my worst, but I never had fully gotten past how things used to be and I think some part of me still thought it was only me. Thank you ❤❤
thank you for this episode madeline & maal. i’ve been struggling with mental illness for years and it hasn’t been easy. i felt so seen in this episode. you guys deserve the world. 🩷
Can I say something? (This isn’t a critical comment, I’m just sharing my experience because you two inexplicably feel like friends to me…yes, the parasocial is parasocialing.) lol I actually don’t have anything to say yet but hi. I’m here.
I'm 30 years old and struggling with depression again after having done better fairly recently. I love the mention of the lighthouse of hope. I still feel pretty bad but, now I have a little pep in me hearing that reminder. I'm still waiting for the day when I can run off into the sunset and only deal with natural issues and lows as opposed to full on depression. 🤍❣️🤍
thank you sweetheart for sharing so much of yourself with us. it’s scary it really is to even share with those you know but it really gives me an ounce of hope. i think i’m extremely close to uncovering everything in therapy and making sense of it. coming to terms past diagnosis, and getting to a place where i can admit to myself that experiences were traumatic. all of its part of the process and i hope that sharing is beneficial to your process aswell 🫶
I lost my little brother to depression almost four years ago. I am grateful you talk on mental health and getting help. Thank you!!
also as someone who is absolutely awful at putting things, especially feelings, into words, maal's metaphors and reflections are soooo helpful i will be using them
its interesting to think that when you’re in that dark mental space you literally hate yourself and you blame yourself for everything, and then you get out of it and it gets better and you don’t hate or blame that past version of yourself that couldn’t get better, you just wish to comfort and validate them, and tell them that it will, in fact, get better
as someone whose been dealing with bpd since childhood and crippling trauma and depression, i really appreciate you opening up like this. it really is awesome when people with a platform open the conversations about hard things, and make people feel a little less alone. love you madeline
oh gosh this episode is so important to me you just narrated my exact journey over the last two years with getting help, it's like we were living similar parallel lives and we're now both on the other side and finally have our lives back. it was so validating hearing almost everything ive been through told from someone outside of me and remembering that i freaking did it and got better im so grateful
hi I also have bipolar 2 and relate to so much of what madeline experienced especially. i’m kind of in shock about how similar our experiences are/were even though everyone experiences are so unique. but it’s literally textbook illness, so it’s not our choice we are literally sick. have to take meds everyday too, I always say now I have a choice to do things when before I couldn’t. love you guys🩷
this episode was wonderful! thank you for sharing this truly, it’s refreshing to hear someone openly speak about a positive and successful medication experience!
also, just wanted to let you girls know this is truly my new favorite podcast and you’re doing such a great job!!
"why don't you just squint harder" had me YELLING the glasses metaphor is so silly and hilarious to imagine but also genuinely so perfect?? madeline you are actually a genius
Speaking on the Joe Rogan conversation, I think it’s also important to remember that antidepressants/saris are not fun or even helpful if they are not needed. It is an issue in some communities where antidepressants are over prescribed and given to children very young and often unnecessary, but that is more so an issue with big pharma and the avoidance of mental health issues in themselves, not wanting to pay attention to your child and instead just prescribing meds without talking to them. The result of taking antidepressants unnecessarily and from a young age is not “not being able to deal with sadness” and is not easy and fun!!
Madeline, thank you so much for this episode. I give you so much credit talking about this on your platform and I found it really helpful to me personally. I would be very interested in you exploring topics like this in the future, to whatever extent you feel comfortable discussing it.
Kudos to your honesty and courage
I love that you talk about not being the best person and partner and friend when you’re doing badly! It can feel SO shameful and affect how you view yourself as a person. It’s so nice to hear someone speak on it and that, even though your actions aren’t good and mental health isn’t an excuse, it doesn’t make you a bad person.
Side note: I’ve been following for a while and I loved watching your videos while you were very depressed. Not in the way that I’m happy you’re depressed ofc, but it can be so comforting and inspiring to post about it. I wasn’t watching at my worst, but I never had fully gotten past how things used to be and I think some part of me still thought it was only me. Thank you ❤❤
thank you for this episode madeline & maal. i’ve been struggling with mental illness for years and it hasn’t been easy. i felt so seen in this episode. you guys deserve the world. 🩷
Loved this. Please talk about this more, it really helped ❤️
You’re so close to 3k omg.
wow! so helpful/relatable ❤
Can I say something?
(This isn’t a critical comment, I’m just sharing my experience because you two inexplicably feel like friends to me…yes, the parasocial is parasocialing.)
lol I actually don’t have anything to say yet but hi.
I’m here.
im on lamictal too!
Me too, it's helped me a lot but I still feel like I may need something in addition to it.
I'm 30 years old and struggling with depression again after having done better fairly recently.
I love the mention of the lighthouse of hope. I still feel pretty bad but, now I have a little pep in me hearing that reminder.
I'm still waiting for the day when I can run off into the sunset and only deal with natural issues and lows as opposed to full on depression.
🤍❣️🤍
thank you sweetheart for sharing so much of yourself with us. it’s scary it really is to even share with those you know but it really gives me an ounce of hope. i think i’m extremely close to uncovering everything in therapy and making sense of it. coming to terms past diagnosis, and getting to a place where i can admit to myself that experiences were traumatic. all of its part of the process and i hope that sharing is beneficial to your process aswell 🫶