Ubisoft's Tragic Mishandling of Desmond Miles
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Desmond Miles was the Assassin's Creed Modern Day protagonist from the original game all the way until Assassin's Creed 3. Yet it was clear as the games went on that Ubisoft did not have a plan for Desmond's character and that led to one of the more controversial story decisions in Assassin's Creed with how Assassin's Creed 3s modern day ended. In this video I explain how the characterization of Desmond Miles changed throughout the games and why Ubisoft poorly handled the character in the last couple of games...
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Its been 12 years and I'm still not over it.
Amen to that brother.
I just played AC:BH and was so excited about the story but turns out it's a complete mess.
I'll never ever forgive them for it.
@@KratosSpartan-ln2vk the Desmond storyline was my favorite part. Wanting to see how it ended was what kept me going and playing those games. I was fully expecting a modern day game to finish his story, which would have been absolutely EPIC. Ubisoft can suck it for never finishing it. Juno escapes and is gonna destroy the world and then they just......forgot about it.
Me neither
Saw a Desmond video and had to watch, can't stand what they did to my boy
Ikr he was a badass
I still have as a head cannon that Desmond is still alive and used the apple of Eden to make illusions to even trick Juno and the Templars to think he is dead, and now just waits in the shadows to serve the Creed if necessary in the direst of situations, in a next game
@@savasan1895 I mean they just left us hanging with the Juno stuff and NEVER brought it up again. Just left us on that cliff hanger
@@pnut3844able they added something in the present story of syndicate, but not much, just that she is now working with the templars
well original plan by co-creator of Ac for Desmond was to become the ultimate assasin and take down Abstergo once and for all,but was eventually fired by Ubisoft
+ if you collected all clusters in brotherhood you would know why Desmond killed Lucy, since explained more once you collected, that she was a double agent
lol why they fire him ?
@@space.pirate481 Lol Kirsten Bell had contract for 3 games that's why story was changed,original ending was Desmond and Lucy ending in that shuttle mentioned throughout the games,but greed took over and the rest is history 😢
@@radekbejbl1 idk about that ,ik only about Desmond original plan, e well
@@space.pirate481which is really stupid and feels like it comes out of nowhere. it’s not a developed plotline at all. killing lucy off was a stupid decision
No, lucy's death was not the original plan. The only reason they killed her off is because her voice actor, Kristen Bell, demanded a higher pay, so they killed off her character so that they wouldn't have to hire Bell anymore. Whether it was penny pinching or just being unable to meet her demand is kind of up in the air.
Damn 💀
Ubisoft didn't care about Desmond. Once Patrice fully left, they were already desperately trying to get rid of him. They knew where the money was actually coming from, it was coming from being immersed in historical settings. They listened to those people, the ones who hate the modern day sections. The people who already hated the idea they were in a machine, and not fully immersed in a historical setting. They've been here since AC1 by the way.
I'd argue that Desmond never got the spotlight he deserved like his ancestors. He was the main character, yet Ezio was the poster boy. All of his ancestors were merely supposed to be stepping stones for him to learn from, but they kept trying to hide him in the marketing. Ezio got three games, which i think he should've never had. Giving Ezio three games made had him replace Desmond in a way. It doesnt matter though, who cares about Desmond anyway?
They didn't kill him off because they were bold and wanted to add to the writing, they killed him off because the modern day was getting in the way of their historical tour simulator money maker. To Ubisoft, the publisher company, killing off Desmond was the best decision they ever made. Now you can see they're trying to completly wipe away the animus now too. They don't want to be reminded that they're in a animus, or that they're really not in the past.
controversial opinion but i was a part of that group that disliked the modern day and animus, and i still do. i like to get immersed in a games story and making the story overly convoluted with what in the end amounts to time travel gets in the way of that. i also dislike the ''all conspiracy theories are literally true and are a part of a millennia long battle between 2 secret societies'' direction to history that the game has, the historic parts are comfy and chill but the idea that its all for that secret goal ruins the comfy feel to it.
maybe if they didn't half ass the modern day story and it was less fantastical or conspiratorial it would have been a nice addition. remember that the modern day story entirely pivoted around the 2012 mayan calendar doomsday, if they didn't kill desmond by december 2012 it would have been a hilarious misdirection. the 2012 mayan calendar fiasco is not relevant and entirely forgotten since like 2013 or so, the story was not future proof at all, it was forgotten way faster than things like covid. like if they actually had a complete story and finished the series just before the date of the calendar it could have worked
You changed your pfp? Thus is the best one ive ever seen
I though this was someone else until I heard the voice😂
Thank god he changed it
The last one was better it was so cute
@@Tony-rh2lpme tio
I prefer his old Ezio profile pic
Ac ended in me when they didn't let Desmond continue as the main character. When I'm playing AC4, I just feel like missing something, yes without Desmond. Years later until last year I finally got the time to try Rogue first, but it's not the same again anymore... no to mention the other ACs that came out in this decade.
Requiescat in pace Desmond.
I wish he took the other option in the end of AC 3.
Ubisofts sad mishandling of every Ubisoft game
to quote one of the best films ever made "look at how they massacred my boy 😢"
ive been mad about this for like a decade
all they had to do was bring him back at the right time - the apple let al mualim make copies, they could have written that it was one of desmonds copies that was killed
Al Mualim says that all the apple does is conjure illusions, so i dont know if his copy could actually interact with objects? I always thought that it was all in altairs mind (when al Mualim copies himself) and in Rodrigo’s head when ezio copies himself? I could be wrong safety and peace brother
@@mattbettcher7439 maybe i dont fully remember those details tbh - anything would be better than what they did by just killing him off and then trying to recycle the idea with that light entity
@@STRmw2 yeah fair enough i dont know man, its a little disappointing knowing where they were originally going to take him
Honestly I think we should get a new character. Desmond had a descent "ending" with Layla at the end of Valhalla (the best thing that game gave us was Layla's ending and Basim). Killing Desmond wasn't the problem imo, not been able to create a new modern day protagonist is.
I mean they could just clone him for samples
All these years later and I am still salty about Desmond's mishandling.
This storyline had so much potential and they just dropped the ball so bad. Playing as him while going through his ancestors' memories gave me a sense of legacy, actually made me feel the weight of history that was once carried by the likes of Altaïr and Ezio, and that now was Desmond's duty to see things through to the end. Only for him to be killed and sidelined for the rest of the series.
First time I got so engaged in a story as well, as if it wasn't bad enough. Other than Game of Thrones S8, I had never been so let down by a work of fiction storywise.
Then we got a bunch of faceless and voiceless protagonists that we didn't care about and Layla, who didn't do much anyway, considering she got killed after three games.
Welcome back 🎉
One reason why AC3's ending is so unsatisfying might be the fact that the story of the entire Desmond Saga takes place in 2012 and hinges on this idea that the world is going to end that year. It's possible the devs really wanted to wrap up the saga before December 21st 2012 happened in real life.
Bro the pfp goes crazy, when i saw it i thought it was someone else
Totally agree Desmond deserved better, and if I remember, to add insult to injury Ubisoft actually made us see Desmond's autopsy photos in Black Flag or Rogue (don't remember well anymore) and the contents of his phone with photos and basically showing what a sweet guy he was. We worked at Abstergo so we sent those files to William Miles and the poor man had a mental breakdown and went AWOL on the Brotherhood.
Btw awesome new profile picture!
I didn't know you were on hiatus but I just found out Mirage is getting a sequel so I'm waiting for you to post a video about that :D (On the flip side they announced Watch Dogs is cancelled forever so... feeling gutted about that.)
mirage is getting a sequal?
@@os_oz it was rumoured, but I haven't heard more on that since, so maybe not, who knows.
I kinda like what they did with him in Valhalla as the Reader, but it remains to be seen if anything good comes from it.
But if the rumors are true that they're jumping ahead to the future for the modern day, they'll probably abandon the storyline like they did with Juno in Origins.
It will most likely be abandoned unless Darby chooses to build upon it in hexe
I ain't holding my breath with Ubisoft. Nothing probably won't happen. You already seen what they did with him in AC3
The one thing is that it wasent desmond's character, it was those around him that built desmond's character and how they viewed desmond as this test subject. Making use be more attached to desmond. I would much rather have desmond back. Desmond is much more memorable then layla. But i did actually like desmonds model in AC 3.
Thank you so much for finally addressing this glaring issue with the franchise. I feel like you read one of my comments on your previous videos and I just feel like due to how mishandled yet important Desmond is to the foundation of everything. That nobodys top farvorite assassins in these games list can be truly complete without mention this in my opinion criminally underrated guy
Nice pfp, looks nice. Desmond is just amazing, so sad what they did to him, he was the reason i continued to play AC after AC 1, which made me fall in love with the series. Anyway, are you gonna talk about xDefiant btw?
Hello,
I’m new to this channel, don’t know where to start.
1. Love the name of your channel
2. Love your new cover
3. Love how you keep the video simple, no ads, no extravagant special effects or so
Now my thoughts 💭
Everything you said is true and I couldn’t agree more with you.
I personally also love the modern days, and especially Desmond’s character.
As you said - at the beginning his story was so interesting and eye catching.
I remember way back when AC2 was released how people were complaining about the modern days, that they don’t fit in the game and similar nonsense.
I can feel that it’s just part of the game, plain and simple.
Soundtrack of each of the title is like from another world = absolutely epic
Revelations was very emotional, could have felt it right from the beginning in the menu, to this day I get goosebumps whenever I hear the music. The composer deserves all awards that are out there.
Next thing I need to mention, as you also said it in the video, is how emotionless was Desmond’s story in AC3. I felt the same way. It was good, but it felt like it was added there BECAUSE it MUST be there and also to close Desmond’s storyline.
Personally I also feel like there was way more potential to his story. I enjoyed every single moment with him.
Not even mentioning his facial changes, like even in Revelations he already looked different, which I attributed to the fact that it was taking place some longer time after the events in AC: Brotherhood.
In AC3 the change was so significant, but he honestly looked like neanderthal 😅
Ubisoft wanted/needed to created another AC game, yet there is always so much going on behind the scenes, so we can only speculate what was what and why cutting Demond off.
Another potential theory is that they thought that there has been enough of Desmond, so “let’s end it here”.
I also didn’t expect such “quick” end of his story. Your example with a book in the video is as precise as a sun in the sky when it is clear.
Personally I played an finished almost all titles, but Odyssey, Valhalla and Mirage are on my list, yet will need 100+ hours to finish them 😂
Back to this video: I also thought that they deepen the soft romance between Desmond and Lucy. They would have been a great couple, honestly. The problem is, as we learn it in one AC title, don’t remember which one exactly, that Lucy was, to my big shock, a traitor.
I despise traitor and I feel so sorry the creators wrote it like this. She was given orders by Vidic. When I first saw it, I couldn’t believe it. I wasn’t crying, but I was so shocked and disappointed that she was a traitor. Well, I guess things can’t be always perfect, although Ubisoft could have made it absolutely perfect. I assume they had their reasons.
There is no single moment where I’d not agree with what you said in the video.
Thank you so much for it and can’t wait for your other projects.
Will also check your other videos.
Stay safe, stay blessed.
And glad you’re recovered.
😇🙏
Love the new pfp and glad you are back from your break and feeling refreshed my friend!!
Love your video and a new logo nice, and yes, I agree I miss him ngl
New pfp is going fire 🔥
Profile pic lookin fresh, assassin. But man the whole thing of Desmond becoming this ultimate assassin and stopping abstergo would’ve been so badass
Damn! The new pfp looks sick!! My favorite one yet
You have made me realise ASSASINS CREED SERIES GOT NO PROTAGONIST AT ALL THE ANTAGONISTS APPEARED IN MORE GAMES THAN HIM
07:15 This right here. They killed him off so casually like it's not a big deal. There was no emotion, nothing dramatic, no epic soundtrack etc. Just boom his dead. Like wth Ubisoft?
I was so hype to see at some point some concrete form of a relationship between Desmond and Lucy and always hoped Desmond was gonna come back in some godly form. Ubisoft not only brought upon the contagion known as MTX to modern gaming but baited the fuck out of us who genuinely liked the story between AC - AC3. I wanted a series that stretched all the way through. I didn’t like black flag initially because it was some random mc who was going in the animus.
Desmond is my favourite AC protag, and I actually enjoy his character a lot even in the last few games he appeared in. As it made sense to me, as he didnt ask for any of this and its obvious they were making stuff up on the fly lol. I really hate that they killed him off, especially since in the next game we follow Edward who's still related to Desmond. Its obvious that his death was kinda last minute and that they kinda regret it. I hope they revive him or hell even give us a soft or hard reboot of the franchise following Desmond and going with the OG plan for his character.
If Basim can come back more than a thousand years later looking exactly like he did in the past, so can Desmond.
@@IAmQuietWolf Your not wrong, I genuinely believe that they're at least hinting at the possibility of Desmond returning. Mainly with how Valhalla ended.
I literally stopped playing assassin's Creed when this happened, I am only following up to see what game should I play now that most of the assassin's creeds are on the PlayStation for download
What is they made Assassins Creed: Alternative Roots where Demond isn't killed and some other things to re-build the peak
I would dig that fr.
AFAIK, Ubisoft only concluded a 3 year contract with Francisco Randez (Desmond's Face Model), so they couldn't use his face after 2010.
A poor choice, since they already should've known that AC3 won't be finished before 2010, so...
I just don't understand why Ubisoft didn't make a longer lasting contract with him...
Great Video Master Assassin and love the New pfp!!!👍👍👍
DAMN BRO YOUR PFP LOOKIN FIRE
Also idk if I played the game wrong but I remember Juno just *YAKING* for hours before Desmond dying
Ngl i liked the old PFP it looked more goofy
I want the old profile picture back with Ezio black rops
i haven’t played AC since AC4 because I loved Desmond so much and was so disappointed with his ending, Ubisoft if you’re reading this, the only thing that would make me buy another AC game is if you resurrected him and did his story justice
Hopefully he comes back. We know its possible for characters to just reincarnate as themselves (Basim), he's been trapped standing in The Grey for so long, he probably wants to sit down.
It was the biggest mistake, he was already an established character and the face of the modern day plot. Ubisoft made a mess of the modern day plot after his death.
I'll never not be mad that we didn't get an only modern day game with Desmond as the protag
I remember as a kid, i was so interested in the modern day mystery from ac2, especially with the cliff hanger and the talk of him having to track down temples, that were originally the keys to stop the end, sucks they never did that, could have had an uncharted style modern day with puzzles and some stealth sections, fighting abstergo.
I love how this video comes out the day after I replayed AC3
Yo the new profile pic looks clean!
The ending of AC 3 was my first real, actual gaming disappointing LMAO
Ever since he died this game has gotten more and more ridiculous
Just as bad when they killed off Juno Not in a game, but in a comic. All set up after AC3 with zero pay off.
Gonna miss the Facebook mom tier pfp 😢😢
They really did him dirty just to save the world. I wanted to see more of the current timeline story with the fight between the Templars and assassins, but instead they used his DNA to make entertainment
"Desmond is basically us in this situation"
Proceeds to show exactly what we were all looking at 💀
Desmond has gone from my cousin ronnie to less buff "The Rock" and I cant unsee that
At last he started to look like mark Zuckerberg 🤣🤣
Imagine that, killing off a character becoz of their face model
Ubisoft: Oh sorry desmond we have to let you go
Everyone: why
Ubisoft: face
It was indeed really cool to play in the modern day, and actually do active missions in AC3 as Desmond. Wish we had to do an actual assassination too. The assault on Abstergo HQ at the end was really cool. But if there were a secondary modern villain, we could've kill stealthily before that, now that'd have been nice. Also Modern Assassin is one of my favourite track on the AC3 OST
Despite everything you said, which I agree with, they fumbled the Juno plot line even worse. Writing off Desmond, and all the alleged ideas from the previous creators, they decided to move forward with Juno as the big baddie who’s trying to be resurrected. Only to conclude her story in a comic series that had no fanfare
Imagine Thanos finally collecting all the infinity stones and that’s a wrap. Series over. Close up shop.
I desperately want modern day assassins/ assassin gameplay, a fully fleshed out game
They actually bring demsond back in one of the later games though, so the resurrection part actually DID happen. You only see it if you collect all of the pieces of a certain artifact or something though, which is why you missed it. Only hardcore fans found it.
I really hope Desmond gets resurrected. I was wholly unsatisfied with the way he went out and left the story in AC3. I always felt his death was a huge waste.
One thing I'd like to say, despite the fact that I really like your stuff and this video specifically, is that you mentioned you were going to spoil the early games but then at the end spoiled Valhalla out of nowhere.
While I agree with pretty much all your points, it is quite misleading to say Desmond was "with us for 5 games". Yes he was, techically. But only ever in homeopathic doses, he wasn't your classic main character. Which was what I found so fascinating about the early games: they managed to make the actual main story basically an afterthought while you spent most of your time in what was really just a means to an end for the present day story. It was so unusual, so intriguing but unfortunately they ended up kind of forgetting about that. I'm not usually a fan of modern day fighting games but I would have killed for that payoff.
From what I heard, Desmond and Clay's consciousness are still alive at Abstergo and they still have Desmonds body, so there could be a possibility that they could bring him back to life but we will see what happens cause the modern day matters.
Consequences of Ubisoft c-suits.
i also really don’t like that they killed off lucy in brotherhood either. the revelation that lucy is a double agent comes out of nowhere and is barely developed. it feels like they wanted to do more with her and desmond but kirsten bell didn’t want anything to do with the series after brotherhood so they did this instead. it’s a very stupid and rushed plotline. while i love brotherhood, the ending is easily the worst part of the game
I feel like his death kinda felt to me like they would never resolve the modern day part of the timeline.
I wish they would bring him back. When his father asked Basim for a favor in return for helping him at the end of Valhalla, i feel the only thing he could want from Basim is help getting his own son back, desmond.
I remember me and my friends discussing his death and believing it was "fake" because we believed him to be still alive. Something like him using a clone with the Apple or that his body is only in a paralyzed state and he'll wake up. Either way, we believed he'll be back in the next game or the game after... or the game after that... and then after that. Of course, he never showed up again. That's why I was SO hyped of the not-so subtle fact that he's back in Valhalla. I really wish we could get him and Nolan North back in the main series, maybe not as the main protagonist again, but make him an integral part of the modern day Assassins. And for the love of God, I HOPE we get to see Elijah in the games. He's "kinda" a big deal considering who and what he is, right?
Time to rewatch desmond scenes...
I don't really think desmond looks that different. Except in AC3 but I think it's just the beard being gone again.
He eventually looks like Niko Bellic. Let's go bowling, cousin!
Sad shame now ubisoft just poops put games that are "non-assassin, gender-choosing, armour stat grinding, pretty and big map" games and bandwagons eat it.
This is what they truly want. Historical World Tour Simulator game with no strings attached. Random historical games that have no Assassin's or Templars involved. Getting rid of Desmond was always the goal, as he tied the modern day and assassins together.
I always skip all cut scenes, so I had no idea Desmond was dead ! 😀
Desmond should return and he should be the main character of a modern AC game.
Another pivotal character who's story was shafted and was reaching an important point in the plot until unity came out and she was just never brought up again. Juno.
As far as I know she's never mentioned once except for 1 scene in syndicate and her big story was dealt with in the comics
Edit: I've not read any of the comics at all, and haven't fully played the ww2 segment in syndicate
Only a remake/reboot of the classic games by those from Bordeaux may bring Desilets' vision to fruition
Original plan was trilogy,and actress for lucy signed for 3 games,soo that's why they killed her off
If Desmond was the one who appeared in ac Valhalla then it's good to have him back in action cuz his body was not fed by worms till date!!! It would be war!
They should make a game or something what if Desmond didn't die.
I remember the time people complained how much Desmond sucks and that he isn't needed.
Missinh old Profile Picture this is looking really vibrant
You could bring him back easily. Just come up with a Piece of Eden that revives the dead.
I absolutely HATE ubisoft for just forgetting him. They left us on that cliffhanger with Juno escaping to bring hell on earth. Then...... nothing. It's like they just forgot he existed. I was FULLY expecting a modern day game to finish that storyline, which would have been EPIC.
Apparently, she died basically right after getting a new body in a comic book.
I'm all for games fleshing out their world in alternate media. But big story moments like that should only happen in the main series of games.
Awesome pfp, really nice keep it up👌🏻
Long live Desmond Miles! The order died with him.....
Top 5 biggest fumbles in AC history this is one of the many decisions that were just stupid, unnecessary and only done for money. They basically killed the present day story and we rarely ever see or even understand what’s happening in the present day AC world plus Desmond was a pretty great character and having him die like this is weak as fuck
I read somewhere that Kristen Bell stepped away from voice acting Lucy and that is why Desmond killed Lucy in AC Brotherhood. It could be true and it could be not honestly idk.
I don't care one bit for the ''modern day'' bs.
I'd much rather they leave it out completely and just give us a complete modern day AC. One game that might satiate people like you , but also a game that people like me whom is only here for the historical stuff, can just skip.
Love the new pfp man it's so freaking awesome
Welcome back man, nice pfp btw
I wish we got the original planned ending, with Desmond and Lucy flying away from earth on a spaceship, which would have been far better than what we got.
In addition, the 2012 doomsday apocalypse thing that went with was a complete detriment to the series in my opinion.
Honestly, this title could be the cast for most of the AC franchise.
Hilarious what happens with Layla as well. i mean Origins was supposed to be a reboot yet the literally just copied her as another desmond. Though i found it all interesting how desmond is descendant of Adam and Layla is Eve now did they plan for that since AC 2? remember desmond was supposed to to find the heir of memories they finally got to 10 games later. finally i think layla and desmond’s stories connecting was interesting af. i think layla and desmond’s stories are finally finished for them to move forward and maybe basim will be our mentor for AC red and kill off william , shaun and becks
Ubisoft boxed themselves into a corner with their writing after killing Desmond. The payoff just wasnt there and the fact that they put all their chips into the mythological aspect rather than merging the two realities evenly just killed it imo. It just opened the floodgates of going crazy with mythologies. Feels more like God of War and Witcher then Assassins Creed.
love the new channel logo
The ac3 soundtrack is so so good especially Desmond’s destiny will always hit so hard for me
babe wake up new masterassassin logo dropped
Why did you change pfp feels like a another channel
A guy who looks through a machine to see his ancestors life's and you are surprised his character was handled badly? This makes no sense because at the end of the day the protagonists were Altair,ezio, and Connor not him in fact I don't even know why he's even in the game they should have just kept it as is in that timeline without the modern non sense.
The original plot would be Desmond becoming a skilled Assassin, there wouldn't be so many ancestors to explore when Patrice Desilets was in charge. After he was sacked, Ubisoft started milking the franchise.
I also hate that Lucy's story came to a close so quickly. It felt like the start of the decline of the modern day. Such a shame there had to be drama with Kristen Bell's pay.