Ruamchok is the place you wanna be, Jon. Never floods, and you have the largest selection of shopping and restaurants anywhere in town, to the extent that you will probably never even feel the need to go "into town" anymore. Quiet, and inexpensive property too. Nearby SanSai is also good with a straight shot into Central Festival. When I visit friends in Hangdong and Saraphi I just can not see the appeal of the area - at all. Traffic, densely populated, noisy, dirty, poor infrastructure, and, well, floods too. A handful of good restaurants, but none worth the trouble of getting there. Don't get hung up on the number of traffic lights. Traffic sucks everywhere in CM for a couple hours a day, the rest of the time it's just fine.
I live in a village down south (3,000 people) where 10 years ago we got our FIRST traffic light, now we have two. But I agree, not worth hanging yourself over.
I've lived all over Chiang Mai in the past 15 years and have experienced some of the same things you have when trying to navigate around town while still living in a nice area not too far from town... I live in Mae Hia now near the 2nd Ring Road and it is a perfect location... 10 minutes from the city center... Big C , Makro and talat Mae Hia all less than 1 kilometer away... Best of all, NO FLOODING...
Wait until the smoke season starts ! Chiang Mai sounds like a nightmare to me. I live in Khon Kaen area , and I built a house well elevated on my wifes land. Its quiet and cheap and a few km from town.
Mae Hia west of Hang Dong Rd. south of airport. I lived 7 years in the same place near the old Int'l school. Never any issue with flooding and very cheap.
I have 2 alternatives for you Jon.Buy land and build what you want,or buy a 4brm house with land and put a pool in.I found a house on hipflat U1825800S 3.79 mil..4 br 2 wc ,230 sqm .Baan Setthi Kan project.Looks good
Jon, in 1994 I lived on Sankanpaeng Rd. Soi 4, for 2 years and loved it. Yes, far from downtown but the traffic was not so bad back then. What if you stayed in the area you live in now but use land fill to raise the level of the land before building the house. Just a thought. I think flooding will only get worse in the future so think carefully before you invest more money. Chiang Mai is a truly magical place. I was forced to leave many years ago because of some bad decisions I made but perhaps one day I will return myself. I felt truly at peace there. Good Luck and all my best to you!!!
I hear the conviction in your voice as you talk about your commitment to remain in Chiang Mai. It's clear you feel a strong attachment to the community there. I would start your inquiry by reaching out to your friend in real estate and asking for any recommendations. They will know which areas have more affordable homes. Wishing you so well~
As important as is the matter of WHERE to live, is the matter of IN WHAT to live. Traditional Thai houses in rural farmlands are built with living quarters on the second story and parking, outdoor storage and cooking on the ground level in recognition of flooding. Western-style houses are not designed to accommodate even rare flooding.
The Prego in San Kamphaeng off highway 1317. 17mins to airport 24mins to moat in city. Only 2 sets of lights as they are currently building a large under/over pass which will cut off a further 5 to 10 mins off travel time. It has a gym with a 25m swimming pool at entrance in a gym called Handsome Fitness. Extra cost to swim there as a seperate business
Nice Pierre Cardin shirt! Love the color. Yeah I see your dilemma, you can't tell if it will be 30 years till it floods again or 3 years. I guess you can't have it all. Accept compromise in your decisions and prioritize the most important. Even if you find "perfection", the passage of time will find something to nullify that. And price is probably a good indicator.
Yep. Prioritize and compromise. Maybe the compromise will be staying where you are, and buying smaller, less expensive furniture that you can either sacrifice or move upstairs if there is a risk of flooding. Maybe look for a less expensive (i.e., disposable) storage solution for your kitchen, like shelving instead of cabinets.
Personally I would take a 2 bedroom condo over swimming through my living room lol...though if there was an affordable house in an area that really didn't flood then yeah I would def go for that.
have you thought about WHY there is soooooo much traffic around the places you have mentioned? In San Sai they now have Home pro, Meechook and Rumchock plazzas, Thai waisidu, Rimping and access to Central festival. It takes me 15 minutes to get to Meya or to the moat or to a few of the best hospitals around or about 20 minutes to get to the airport (outside of peak times). Also why would you want to go to the center of town so often? The traffic there around the moat can be just as bad as the other areas you mentioned. Water finds its own level, always has done and always will, stay away from water sources like rivers and beach sides and run offs. Hopefully your insurance will lessen the blow and you will be back up and running, learn the lessons that life has giving you and embrace the Thai way of just getting on with life. cheers
what you talking about, there's no traffic lights around the moat, you rarely if ever come to a stop, same cannot be said about any other part of the city.
@@thailandreaction the moat is utterly insane though, I try to stay away. Full of pot holes, terrible driving, tourists randomly walking across the road, cars frantically switching lanes, disgusting fumes from the tuktuk....a death trap!
I still have my one-bedroom/one-bathroom apartment at Veerachai Court and while the flooding DID hit the 1st floor of the apartment/hotel complex, I'm on the 4th floor so no problem up there. I'm very much looking forward to returning there in a couple months. It ISN'T a house and I WOULD like something bigger but on the OTHER hand, I'm nearby Warorot Market/the Ping River (BAD for flooding, mind you), I'm off of Thapae Rd and it's VERY easy to get into the Old City, not all that far from the Arcade Bus Station, the train station and maybe a little bit further to Chiang Mai International (CNX) so for now at least, I'm quite happy living near the Old City. Best of luck to you, Jon, in finding something which DOES work for you and your lovely lady! Cheers from Cape Cod! 🙂
What's the obsession with Chiang Mai city?! You're living full time in Chiang Mai, so why the need to have the Old City so easily accessible?! It's basically for tourists. I live about 5 to 10 minutes drive from the Old City and visit only a few times a year - usually with friends visiting from overseas, or to go to a particular restaurant. If the Old City is so important then weigh up living in a condo as against a house further out. As someone else suggests, consider a shop house.
Mae hia is a great area, my friend. No flooding straight shot to nimman in 5-10 minutes. 30 minutes to Thapae. Prices might be on the high side, but many options...
Please briefly show a map of the areas you speak of. Many people believe floods will become more frequent due to global warming. Others say severe flooding is a 10 to 15-year event. Check house prices before and after this recent flood. Dry areas will cost considerably more now. Finding a house that meets your 4m baht requirement isn't possible now.
Have you looked at shophouses in Chiang Mai? They don't come with a pool, or a garden, but in terms of space, they seem to provide more bang for your buck than a condo.
@@brentonlett3417 Typically, a narrow, three-story building with a business on the ground floor and living space upstairs. They are built in blocks of 3, 5, or how ever many shophouses lined up in a row. If you search "shophouses for sale Chiang Mai" you'll see examples.
They are normally on the main roads and the ground floor is a big open plan space that is used for shop storage stuff like tables and benches for stalls. Good for floods as your living space is on the first floor.
Compared to Sydney Australia, the traffic lights in Chiang Mai are fine but I have sat at lights here for almost 5 min! In Sydney you can pay to use toll roads to avoid lights but that cost, about 600 baht and may only save you 5min on a trip.... The worst part about traffic in Chiang Mai is when your on your bike in the heat and get caught at lights. I like how at lights for pedestrians, traffic only stop while people are crossing then move even if the light is still red. Great video mate 🙏
I am not too sure, a direct link to Thailands 2nd largest city without traffic stops by living on the outskirts is a very realistic expectation. Not just CM but any city in the world. It is probably easier to wear slippers than expect to carpet the world. That is, accept your dream of no traffic as a dream, and not reality and then you can find plenty of places that met reality instead of wishful hoping
Going further afield than Chiang Mai, given the figures and number of bedrooms you are talking about, you ain't going to get much joy. Isaan, for example Khon Kaen or Udon Thani, if you are looking for a 4 bedroom house on a new project, and there are plenty on the ring roads, they'll be asking 4 m. 20 minutes into the city centre.
Houses inside small roads on Highway 1317 (San Khampaeng-Mae On), early part of Doi Saket have easy traffic light free access to town via their new highways. flood free and lower population density.
being an older person, I didn't appreciate having to walk up steps to get into the house. I still don't like it, but I do appreciate it abit more now. No flooding. I have no idea on traffic lights. My in-laws (moved from Bangkok) will think I'm crazy if I even pretend to complain about traffic lights or traffic in Chiang Mai. lol. Best to luck to you on your hunt
air quality for 25% of the year - horrendous. Flooding, heat waves - I liked chiang mai but I think its a little over hyped when you consider the downsides
Jon I live in San Sai Noi. Been here for 12 years and it has never flooded here at all. We made enquiries from locals here before purchasing rather than from Moo Baan staff in relation to flooding. Hang Dong and Saraphi are unfortunately well known for flooding. Sorry for your problems mate. Perhaps have a look at something along Highway 121 but would probably have to be 2nd hand to meet your budget..
i live in sankhampaeng district, the closest part to mueng district just by the second outer ring. its a landed house in a gated community for roughly 4m. i bought it 11 years go. guess what, my drive to the moat is only 7-10 min by a car. now with a local real estate developer you still can get a house by roughly 4m in this area though.
I live Nong Hoi, it was pretty bad, they started to clear the rubbish yesterday, Im interested to know why you think it was so bad this year, it didnt rain for 3-4 days before this happened. Chiang Mai has grown quickly and is still growing but the infrastructure for the roads hasn't grow with it..Building property in areas that maybe shouldn't be built on as it has expanded.
Hi Jon, glad you’re on the road to recovering from that disaster. I’m a new retiree here in CNX - 6 weeks now- had a real estate company assist me in renting. So, I can’t really comment on your question posed. I knew a little about CM - had stayed in different areas in the recent years. I was interested in being right in a Thai community. Chang Phueak I liked, ( budget 20-25k) and ended up near Central Festival in a condo. I know, Cadillac problems,yet, thought 20 k could land me a nice place. My experience,and to my surprise, it was difficult to find a decent place. Of course I lucked out with no flooding in my area or loss of water etc.; I just took the place I am in because I was tired of looking - Chiang Mai business park area - nice but ……. I do have to say that the first place the agent took me to was in Hang Dong - a small house,private, clean, very nice - but for reasons you expressed I thought it was too far out from the old town. I was actually thinking to reach out to you initially prior to my move and ask if you’d be available for hire to assist me in finding a place. 😊 ; Anyway,just wanted to lay out my experience. One day at a time. I am considering moving to Cha am ,Hua hin after this year is up. CM is busy,traffic seems like bkk. Thanks for listening and I enjoy your videos very much. Prayers with those suffering from the floods.
You're touching on the exact reason I've all but given up on Chiang Mai. My wife lives in Mae Jo and it's such a hassle to go into the city I stopped doing that years ago. Houses inside the actual city are at least 500,000 USD right? Even cheap looking areas with basic homes are more than most Americans can afford. Makes no sense. Outside the city land prices are incredible also and you're so far away you might as well be in another town entirely which would have cheaper houses and more space. If the traffic is bad it can take as much time to drive to airport from Mae Jo as it does in my current home in Samoeng. Bottom line is that CM is past the point of being a good quality of life unless you want to live in a condo and any of the other smaller cities in the north offer a better quality of life if you can just ween yourself off the imported stuff you find in the city. Juice is no longer worth the squeeze in my opinion.
Don't know where you get your information I live in the Ban Wang Tan village 10 minutes from the city, airport and 5 minutes to Big C, Macro and plenty of fresh food markets 500,000 USD will buy you a modern five bed five bathroom brand new build with a pool and quality furnishings.
I can’t even get to downtown chiang mai/Nimman area from central festival in 15 mins, unless I’m lucky and there’s not much traffic. My expectation is Google maps estimate x 2 or even 3.
@@robertmcgregor8144I blocked the storm water pipe and was pumping water out. But once the water started coming over the front wall that was it. Having a 2 storey house and solid wood furniture helped.
We have a condo in santitham.. very convenient but busy.. we also have land near sankampeang.. as I get older it's village life I am drawn too.. but, we will seem
We live in San Phi Seua, just north of Nakornpayap International School. We didnt get flooded in areas approx. 500m from the river. However, 25 mins to the Old City. We are looking to buy a house, not too sure where just yet. May I ask, which flood map are you referring to in your video? It will help me make a decision too.
The pace of clean up seems slow. Not surprised by this. Went to Chang Klan on a Wednesday. The sidewalks were full. Went back on Friday and it was a little better. If high season is so important then I thought the local government would move into overdrive to restore "normalcy". But as alasy TIT.
Jon, your viewers need to take any advice you have given in your videos with a grain of salt. Three very important and expensive life decisions you have made in Thailand, job, house, car are all in ruins at the same time.
What a vlog that was after all that the Thai people have gone through lately.. lots of negativity just when they are just getting over it. The best place to live is where your home is. So my advice to you Jon and other negative Clickbaiters is to start being positive about the Situation, there are lots of Thais depend on visitors and tourists to survive and I mean survive, street sellers,etc. you didn’t leave many places, Where not to live!. With vlogs like this don’t worry about getting around..There will be NOBODY there. Wake Up.
Yes, the road design in Chiang Mai totally sucks dead boa constrictors. I tell my Thai friends that Chiang Mai is about 5 to 10 years away from being a very large parking lot. I live in Bo Sang and you are correct about road 1016 into Chiang Mai.
Mae Hia FTW. High and dry. Did you visit the ruins of Wiang Kum Kan? Nobody’s taking a lesson from history. And I’m sure this rubbish will be picked up. There are only so many trucks and workers.
Can't have it all. Same all over the world. Going to have to spend more for what you want or move further out. Not sure why you have to be in town so much, must be for work. In that case, just get an apartment near your job cause it sounds like you are super stressed about getting into town.
Your problem seems to be rooted in your impatience at the traffic lights. Understandable in Chiang Mai with its poor traffic planning, thus not avoidable (must be tolerated). Think about the big cities in the world (I come from Chicago). This is really not as big of a problem as it is in many places.
Dont know when was the last time you experienced chiang mai traffic but its getting really really bad. And Im saying that for the cars as I rode a scooter when I was there earlier this year. Thai's pull away from lights very slowly which accentuates the concertina effect, which seriously limits how many cars can clear an intersection in any given green light, compounding the traffic. Dont know why this is not pushed like in the west but I could pull away from a light with normal acceleration in a modest 110cc semi auto scooter and cars were nowhere In a bike you can do a lot to limit/avoid downtime at lights, specially in a laxxed road rule country like Thailand like pulling the old left turn on red, u turn and left to continue on in the bad reds
Just rent a house in the city. You don't need to buy and you clearly are not happy living far outside of the city. You can rent a house in the city cheaper than you are paying for your mortgage. Your thinking is too rigid and you are stuck on ownership when renting is the obvious solution.
Hi Jon, some of us like to buy a resort n set up a business n invest in Thailand. Could you please make a video on legal possibility n minimum investment n success rate..... please 🙏
Maybe the appropriate time to ask someone to do something for you is NOT when their entire ground level of their home just flooded, they lost their car, major appliances and don't even have chairs and a table to eat on and are currently trying to find a new place to live, AFTER losing their only income source. Perhaps 6 months down the road would be a better time to start asking someone who just lost their job and most of the ground level of their home if they can do something for you. Maybe by that time, they will have *almost* recovered and found a new place to live.
I'd guess they're going to have the burn piles smoking in a couple months during the dry season. It would be a dream come to true to live in Chiang Mai within the old town just an easy walk to the Sunday Market, mediative massage Buddhist temple, and all those great small business restaurants. Unfortunately it's oriented to usually only rent simple old fashioned guesthouse tourist rooms instead of houses. The weather all around the world is really becoming unprecedented. Over in America, we see so much is being altered by high tech design predictively programmed against our will and best interests. It really is dreadful as the 2020's looks like a very dystopian future arriving. The new American dream is to leave America, not as a tourist, but as a permanent expat where the folks are friendly and traditional still producing real food intended for normal human consumption sourced from family farms in small business settings and where one could have a garden as well along with people to help who like clean, do laundry, take care of common areas, and traditionally work as those extra sets of hands we no longer have around since early 2020. Is inflation killing you guys over there in the 2020's despite it still being economical compared to UK and US? I can no longer eat healthy in America, travel, eat out, do fun weekend trips, nor drive and just increasingly confronted on a daily basis by filth, crime, political chaos, homelessness, cultural death, and an increasingly very dark dreadful vibe that just instinctively tells me leave or die of unprecedented hardships in a year or two.
Jon I’m afraid you have face reality because everyone has exactly the same mindset as you that’s why the places that don’t flood is where you can’t afford. This happens everywhere in the world , even in my city of Sydney. There can be a 3 million dollar difference between mosman and Liverpool You have to face reality if traffic light traffic light until your pocket gets bigger. Like I said everyone has the same mindset as you hence the price differential. Mind you as the polar caps melt , not just Chiang Mai but everyone will face this problem Everyone wants a Ferrari but when we wake up we must face reality. Good luck
Ruamchok is the place you wanna be, Jon. Never floods, and you have the largest selection of shopping and restaurants anywhere in town, to the extent that you will probably never even feel the need to go "into town" anymore. Quiet, and inexpensive property too. Nearby SanSai is also good with a straight shot into Central Festival. When I visit friends in Hangdong and Saraphi I just can not see the appeal of the area - at all. Traffic, densely populated, noisy, dirty, poor infrastructure, and, well, floods too. A handful of good restaurants, but none worth the trouble of getting there.
Don't get hung up on the number of traffic lights. Traffic sucks everywhere in CM for a couple hours a day, the rest of the time it's just fine.
I live in a village down south (3,000 people) where 10 years ago we got our FIRST traffic light, now we have two. But I agree, not worth hanging yourself over.
Santitham. Love it here. 8 years. No flooding
Yeaaa! New Video! Going to work now and will watch it later. It's 15 minutes long .. oh! Can't wait. Take care, mate!
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@@jondcanton Sorry, dude, for your house. I hope you will be getting more money from YT and can afford a new home in theexacte great location.
I've lived all over Chiang Mai in the past 15 years and have experienced some of the same things you have when trying to navigate around town while still living in a nice area not too far from town... I live in Mae Hia now near the 2nd Ring Road and it is a perfect location... 10 minutes from the city center... Big C , Makro and talat Mae Hia all less than 1 kilometer away... Best of all, NO FLOODING...
Wait until the smoke season starts ! Chiang Mai sounds like a nightmare to me.
I live in Khon Kaen area , and I built a house well elevated on my wifes land. Its quiet and cheap and a few km from town.
Mae Hia west of Hang Dong Rd. south of airport. I lived 7 years in the same place near the old Int'l school. Never any issue with flooding and very cheap.
I have 2 alternatives for you Jon.Buy land and build what you want,or buy a 4brm house with land and put a pool in.I found a house on hipflat U1825800S 3.79 mil..4 br 2 wc ,230 sqm .Baan Setthi Kan project.Looks good
Jon, in 1994 I lived on Sankanpaeng Rd. Soi 4, for 2 years and loved it. Yes, far from downtown but the traffic was not so bad back then. What if you stayed in the area you live in now but use land fill to raise the level of the land before building the house. Just a thought. I think flooding will only get worse in the future so think carefully before you invest more money. Chiang Mai is a truly magical place. I was forced to leave many years ago because of some bad decisions I made but perhaps one day I will return myself. I felt truly at peace there. Good Luck and all my best to you!!!
Damn bro, what did you do
When was the last time that the river was dredged?
I hear the conviction in your voice as you talk about your commitment to remain in Chiang Mai. It's clear you feel a strong attachment to the community there. I would start your inquiry by reaching out to your friend in real estate and asking for any recommendations. They will know which areas have more affordable homes. Wishing you so well~
As important as is the matter of WHERE to live, is the matter of IN WHAT to live. Traditional Thai houses in rural farmlands are built with living quarters on the second story and parking, outdoor storage and cooking on the ground level in recognition of flooding. Western-style houses are not designed to accommodate even rare flooding.
The Prego in San Kamphaeng off highway 1317. 17mins to airport 24mins to moat in city. Only 2 sets of lights as they are currently building a large under/over pass which will cut off a further 5 to 10 mins off travel time. It has a gym with a 25m swimming pool at entrance in a gym called Handsome Fitness. Extra cost to swim there as a seperate business
Thanks!
Thanks so much mate, really appreciate that!
@@jondcanton Your very welcome Jon, hope things start to turn around for you and your family.
Nice Pierre Cardin shirt! Love the color. Yeah I see your dilemma, you can't tell if it will be 30 years till it floods again or 3 years.
I guess you can't have it all. Accept compromise in your decisions and prioritize the most important. Even if you find "perfection", the passage of time will find something to nullify that.
And price is probably a good indicator.
Yep. Prioritize and compromise. Maybe the compromise will be staying where you are, and buying smaller, less expensive furniture that you can either sacrifice or move upstairs if there is a risk of flooding. Maybe look for a less expensive (i.e., disposable) storage solution for your kitchen, like shelving instead of cabinets.
Personally I would take a 2 bedroom condo over swimming through my living room lol...though if there was an affordable house in an area that really didn't flood then yeah I would def go for that.
have you thought about WHY there is soooooo much traffic around the places you have mentioned? In San Sai they now have Home pro, Meechook and Rumchock plazzas, Thai waisidu, Rimping and access to Central festival. It takes me 15 minutes to get to Meya or to the moat or to a few of the best hospitals around or about 20 minutes to get to the airport (outside of peak times). Also why would you want to go to the center of town so often? The traffic there around the moat can be just as bad as the other areas you mentioned. Water finds its own level, always has done and always will, stay away from water sources like rivers and beach sides and run offs. Hopefully your insurance will lessen the blow and you will be back up and running, learn the lessons that life has giving you and embrace the Thai way of just getting on with life. cheers
what you talking about, there's no traffic lights around the moat, you rarely if ever come to a stop, same cannot be said about any other part of the city.
@@thailandreaction he didnt talk about the moat, it was sarapee.
@@thailandreaction the moat is utterly insane though, I try to stay away. Full of pot holes, terrible driving, tourists randomly walking across the road, cars frantically switching lanes, disgusting fumes from the tuktuk....a death trap!
@@nt4409 I replied to the comment idiot, go back and read it
I still have my one-bedroom/one-bathroom apartment at Veerachai Court and while the flooding DID hit the 1st floor of the apartment/hotel complex, I'm on the 4th floor so no problem up there. I'm very much looking forward to returning there in a couple months. It ISN'T a house and I WOULD like something bigger but on the OTHER hand, I'm nearby Warorot Market/the Ping River (BAD for flooding, mind you), I'm off of Thapae Rd and it's VERY easy to get into the Old City, not all that far from the Arcade Bus Station, the train station and maybe a little bit further to Chiang Mai International (CNX) so for now at least, I'm quite happy living near the Old City. Best of luck to you, Jon, in finding something which DOES work for you and your lovely lady! Cheers from Cape Cod! 🙂
What's the obsession with Chiang Mai city?! You're living full time in Chiang Mai, so why the need to have the Old City so easily accessible?! It's basically for tourists. I live about 5 to 10 minutes drive from the Old City and visit only a few times a year - usually with friends visiting from overseas, or to go to a particular restaurant. If the Old City is so important then weigh up living in a condo as against a house further out. As someone else suggests, consider a shop house.
One must live within his means. A condo in Town might be the only option.
Mae hia is a great area, my friend. No flooding straight shot to nimman in 5-10 minutes. 30 minutes to Thapae. Prices might be on the high side, but many options...
suthep even better
Please briefly show a map of the areas you speak of. Many people believe floods will become more frequent due to global warming. Others say severe flooding is a 10 to 15-year event. Check house prices before and after this recent flood. Dry areas will cost considerably more now. Finding a house that meets your 4m baht requirement isn't possible now.
Have you looked at shophouses in Chiang Mai? They don't come with a pool, or a garden, but in terms of space, they seem to provide more bang for your buck than a condo.
What is a shophouse?
@@brentonlett3417 Typically, a narrow, three-story building with a business on the ground floor and living space upstairs. They are built in blocks of 3, 5, or how ever many shophouses lined up in a row. If you search "shophouses for sale Chiang Mai" you'll see examples.
They are normally on the main roads and the ground floor is a big open plan space that is used for shop storage stuff like tables and benches for stalls. Good for floods as your living space is on the first floor.
Compared to Sydney Australia, the traffic lights in Chiang Mai are fine but I have sat at lights here for almost 5 min! In Sydney you can pay to use toll roads to avoid lights but that cost, about 600 baht and may only save you 5min on a trip.... The worst part about traffic in Chiang Mai is when your on your bike in the heat and get caught at lights. I like how at lights for pedestrians, traffic only stop while people are crossing then move even if the light is still red. Great video mate 🙏
I am not too sure, a direct link to Thailands 2nd largest city without traffic stops by living on the outskirts is a very realistic expectation. Not just CM but any city in the world.
It is probably easier to wear slippers than expect to carpet the world. That is, accept your dream of no traffic as a dream, and not reality and then you can find plenty of places that met reality instead of wishful hoping
Going further afield than Chiang Mai, given the figures and number of bedrooms you are talking about, you ain't going to get much joy. Isaan, for example Khon Kaen or Udon Thani, if you are looking for a 4 bedroom house on a new project, and there are plenty on the ring roads, they'll be asking 4 m. 20 minutes into the city centre.
Houses inside small roads on Highway 1317 (San Khampaeng-Mae On), early part of Doi Saket have easy traffic light free access to town via their new highways. flood free and lower population density.
Thumbs up 👍 Jon
My fiance lives in chiang mai, she said that trash will be picked up withing 1 to 2 weeks once they get caught up
In Sanpakwaan it looks like 302 meters above sea level but it does take 20 minutes to gel to Central Airport Plaza
Our moo baan in Hangdong was high and dry , only a couple places down here that flooded ...
Hang Dong..I'm comin'..Hang Dong..I'm comin'
Name the artist?
Which moo bahn?
@@robertmcgregor8144 Rungarron and Diya Valley
@@willsmith39 Jackie Chan?
@@anb2456 Sam & Dave. It's a classic old track. I feel my attempt at a joke has failed spectacularly 😂
being an older person, I didn't appreciate having to walk up steps to get into the house. I still don't like it, but I do appreciate it abit more now. No flooding. I have no idea on traffic lights. My in-laws (moved from Bangkok) will think I'm crazy if I even pretend to complain about traffic lights or traffic in Chiang Mai. lol. Best to luck to you on your hunt
That all depends if you need to travel into the city daily, if you don't then traffic lights isn't such a problem.
Heard the air quality is bad ..
air quality for 25% of the year - horrendous. Flooding, heat waves - I liked chiang mai but I think its a little over hyped when you consider the downsides
Good luck trying to sell your current property now people know that it got flooded 🤷🏾
Jon I live in San Sai Noi. Been here for 12 years and it has never flooded here at all. We made enquiries from locals here before purchasing rather than from Moo Baan staff in relation to flooding. Hang Dong and Saraphi are unfortunately well known for flooding. Sorry for your problems mate. Perhaps have a look at something along Highway 121 but would probably have to be 2nd hand to meet your budget..
Not true, i lived there 15 years ago was 2 foot of water through the 3 way market intersection.
Was there flooding in Nimman?
i live in sankhampaeng district, the closest part to mueng district just by the second outer ring. its a landed house in a gated community for roughly 4m. i bought it 11 years go. guess what, my drive to the moat is only 7-10 min by a car. now with a local real estate developer you still can get a house by roughly 4m in this area though.
I live Nong Hoi, it was pretty bad, they started to clear the rubbish yesterday, Im interested to know why you think it was so bad this year, it didnt rain for 3-4 days before this happened. Chiang Mai has grown quickly and is still growing but the infrastructure for the roads hasn't grow with it..Building property in areas that maybe shouldn't be built on as it has expanded.
Hi Jon, glad you’re on the road to recovering from that disaster. I’m a new retiree here in CNX - 6 weeks now- had a real estate company assist me in renting. So, I can’t really comment on your question posed. I knew a little about CM - had stayed in different areas in the recent years. I was interested in being right in a Thai community. Chang Phueak I liked, ( budget 20-25k) and ended up near Central Festival in a condo. I know, Cadillac problems,yet, thought 20 k could land me a nice place. My experience,and to my surprise, it was difficult to find a decent place. Of course I lucked out with no flooding in my area or loss of water etc.; I just took the place I am in because I was tired of looking - Chiang Mai business park area - nice but ……. I do have to say that the first place the agent took me to was in Hang Dong - a small house,private, clean, very nice - but for reasons you expressed I thought it was too far out from the old town. I was actually thinking to reach out to you initially prior to my move and ask if you’d be available for hire to assist me in finding a place. 😊 ; Anyway,just wanted to lay out my experience. One day at a time. I am considering moving to Cha am ,Hua hin after this year is up. CM is busy,traffic seems like bkk. Thanks for listening and I enjoy your videos very much. Prayers with those suffering from the floods.
Try Urbana2 mooban in Mai Hia. Right next to BigC. Easy drive on 108 or 121 to the city. Sorry, our pool may not be deep enough for you! :)
Did you buy that house or rent .
You're touching on the exact reason I've all but given up on Chiang Mai. My wife lives in Mae Jo and it's such a hassle to go into the city I stopped doing that years ago. Houses inside the actual city are at least 500,000 USD right? Even cheap looking areas with basic homes are more than most Americans can afford. Makes no sense. Outside the city land prices are incredible also and you're so far away you might as well be in another town entirely which would have cheaper houses and more space. If the traffic is bad it can take as much time to drive to airport from Mae Jo as it does in my current home in Samoeng. Bottom line is that CM is past the point of being a good quality of life unless you want to live in a condo and any of the other smaller cities in the north offer a better quality of life if you can just ween yourself off the imported stuff you find in the city. Juice is no longer worth the squeeze in my opinion.
Don't know where you get your information I live in the Ban Wang Tan village 10 minutes from the city, airport and 5 minutes to Big C, Macro and plenty of fresh food markets 500,000 USD will buy you a modern five bed five bathroom brand new build with a pool and quality furnishings.
I can’t even get to downtown chiang mai/Nimman area from central festival in 15 mins, unless I’m lucky and there’s not much traffic. My expectation is Google maps estimate x 2 or even 3.
I saw it was a LOT of water, but could you take measures to keep it out and waterproof the house as much as possible?
Unfortunately the water comes up through the storm water pipes. Building a sandbag wall may not necessarily help.
@@robertmcgregor8144I blocked the storm water pipe and was pumping water out. But once the water started coming over the front wall that was it. Having a 2 storey house and solid wood furniture helped.
We have a condo in santitham.. very convenient but busy.. we also have land near sankampeang.. as I get older it's village life I am drawn too.. but, we will seem
We live in San Phi Seua, just north of Nakornpayap International School. We didnt get flooded in areas approx. 500m from the river. However, 25 mins to the Old City. We are looking to buy a house, not too sure where just yet. May I ask, which flood map are you referring to in your video? It will help me make a decision too.
Sansai. It's growing and safe from floods.
Jon, may i know which point in Saraphi is your house located?
san pak wan moobans, 2 bedroom, 3 bathroom, with garden town houses, 12 mins to city, no flooding, 1.7m thb.
Jon you should be invited to see CM state planner and share your input with them. Maybe they can offer a job 😃 cheers
The pace of clean up seems slow. Not surprised by this. Went to Chang Klan on a Wednesday. The sidewalks were full. Went back on Friday and it was a little better. If high season is so important then I thought the local government would move into overdrive to restore "normalcy". But as alasy TIT.
Jon, your viewers need to take any advice you have given in your videos with a grain of salt. Three very important and expensive life decisions you have made in Thailand, job, house, car are all in ruins at the same time.
What a vlog that was after all that the Thai people have gone through lately.. lots of negativity just when they are just getting over it. The best place to live is where your home is. So my advice to you Jon and other negative Clickbaiters is to start being positive about the Situation, there are lots of Thais depend on visitors and tourists to survive and I mean survive, street sellers,etc. you didn’t leave many places, Where not to live!. With vlogs like this don’t worry about getting around..There will be NOBODY there. Wake Up.
Mate the good news is you've got another at least 10 years before the next big flood.
Why Nimann? It’s noisy as it’s located at the end of the airport run way, it’s crowded, full of tourists & the most expensive.
Sanpakwan - river road to CM 20 mins
We call it 'the coast road'.. 😀And zero traffic lights..👍
Ruamchok Area👍🏼
Yes, the road design in Chiang Mai totally sucks dead boa constrictors. I tell my Thai friends that Chiang Mai is about 5 to 10 years away from being a very large parking lot. I live in Bo Sang and you are correct about road 1016 into Chiang Mai.
exactly. You can't access the city anyways so just give up on it. It gets worse everywhere too.
Mae Hia FTW. High and dry. Did you visit the ruins of Wiang Kum Kan? Nobody’s taking a lesson from history. And I’m sure this rubbish will be picked up. There are only so many trucks and workers.
What would you do differently if another bout of flooding happened to occur. The way climate change is happening at an extreme level.
Do you or your wife work inside of the moat borders? Otherwise, I can't understand why you have that 15-minute limit.
Can't have it all. Same all over the world. Going to have to spend more for what you want or move further out. Not sure why you have to be in town so much, must be for work. In that case, just get an apartment near your job cause it sounds like you are super stressed about getting into town.
Try around Convention Centre on the 121.
Your problem seems to be rooted in your impatience at the traffic lights. Understandable in Chiang Mai with its poor traffic planning, thus not avoidable (must be tolerated). Think about the big cities in the world (I come from Chicago). This is really not as big of a problem as it is in many places.
Dont know when was the last time you experienced chiang mai traffic but its getting really really bad. And Im saying that for the cars as I rode a scooter when I was there earlier this year. Thai's pull away from lights very slowly which accentuates the concertina effect, which seriously limits how many cars can clear an intersection in any given green light, compounding the traffic. Dont know why this is not pushed like in the west but I could pull away from a light with normal acceleration in a modest 110cc semi auto scooter and cars were nowhere
In a bike you can do a lot to limit/avoid downtime at lights, specially in a laxxed road rule country like Thailand like pulling the old left turn on red, u turn and left to continue on in the bad reds
Just rent a house in the city. You don't need to buy and you clearly are not happy living far outside of the city. You can rent a house in the city cheaper than you are paying for your mortgage. Your thinking is too rigid and you are stuck on ownership when renting is the obvious solution.
Say it isn’t so!!
crying about traffic
San Phranet , San Na Meng.
San Sai, Sa na Meng
I can do you a great favour, I can buy the house for $50.
Hi Jon, some of us like to buy a resort n set up a business n invest in Thailand.
Could you please make a video on legal possibility n minimum investment n success rate..... please 🙏
Maybe the appropriate time to ask someone to do something for you is NOT when their entire ground level of their home just flooded, they lost their car, major appliances and don't even have chairs and a table to eat on and are currently trying to find a new place to live, AFTER losing their only income source.
Perhaps 6 months down the road would be a better time to start asking someone who just lost their job and most of the ground level of their home if they can do something for you. Maybe by that time, they will have *almost* recovered and found a new place to live.
So many Chinese from China also do that; not all success story
@@le_th_ hahahaha
Today Tuesday 15th one hour twenty minutes from Doisaket into the city started at 8am
Pa Deat
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I'd guess they're going to have the burn piles smoking in a couple months during the dry season. It would be a dream come to true to live in Chiang Mai within the old town just an easy walk to the Sunday Market, mediative massage Buddhist temple, and all those great small business restaurants. Unfortunately it's oriented to usually only rent simple old fashioned guesthouse tourist rooms instead of houses. The weather all around the world is really becoming unprecedented. Over in America, we see so much is being altered by high tech design predictively programmed against our will and best interests. It really is dreadful as the 2020's looks like a very dystopian future arriving. The new American dream is to leave America, not as a tourist, but as a permanent expat where the folks are friendly and traditional still producing real food intended for normal human consumption sourced from family farms in small business settings and where one could have a garden as well along with people to help who like clean, do laundry, take care of common areas, and traditionally work as those extra sets of hands we no longer have around since early 2020.
Is inflation killing you guys over there in the 2020's despite it still being economical compared to UK and US? I can no longer eat healthy in America, travel, eat out, do fun weekend trips, nor drive and just increasingly confronted on a daily basis by filth, crime, political chaos, homelessness, cultural death, and an increasingly very dark dreadful vibe that just instinctively tells me leave or die of unprecedented hardships in a year or two.
OMG Stop repeating yourself
Jon I’m afraid you have face reality because everyone has exactly the same mindset as you that’s why the places that don’t flood is where you can’t afford. This happens everywhere in the world , even in my city of Sydney. There can be a 3 million dollar difference between mosman and Liverpool
You have to face reality if traffic light traffic light until your pocket gets bigger. Like I said everyone has the same mindset as you hence the price differential. Mind you as the polar caps melt , not just Chiang Mai but everyone will face this problem
Everyone wants a Ferrari but when we wake up we must face reality. Good luck