I like 20lb mono personally. the bend of the rod and the stretch of the line really helps you pin the trebles. Braid really seems to get caught in the hooks when you do a chop or a 180 burn and turn. If I couldnt use mono id choose 17 -25lb fluro but mono has really shined on hard swimbaits for me
Your advice to throw a glide whenever you feel the urge to throw topwater really resonated with me. It was just the advice I really needed to hear it seems. I had the most success with a glide today that I've ever had. 👊
I only have one glide bait and it is the SPRO KGB Chad Shad. I bought a Dobyn’s swim bait rod and put my Shimano Curado 200 on it. I’m using 20lb mono. I’ve thrown it a few times and enjoyed fishing it but I’ve yet to get bit on it. Hopefully I can hook up a few on it this Fall.
What's confusing to beginners, I'm not a beginner but...js. There's half the bass world saying throw smaller profile baits because the minnows and shad this time of year are smaller. Them there's the other side saying throw bigger profile baits because the bass arr feeding on big bait fish 😂. I find this time of year here smaller finesse baits work best and late fall early winter larger baits start working well especially for bigger bass. I think you need both and have to try both this time of year though. One will shine one will not depending on region, conditions and even area of the lake you're fishing.
If I know there are bigger gizzard shad around, I’m probably happy to go with bigger offerings. Plenty of times I’ve been around bait, thrown a small crank and snagged a big gizzard shad. I’ve also seen plenty of guys cash checks in October throwing 6-7” baits. I was actually out this past Sunday and watched a LARGE baitfish leaping for its life and flopping up onto some lilies. Big fish are still out there eating big meals. That being said, I’m sure there are plenty of days when small gets bit more.
@@benwilkey2060 this time of year in many places you have bait balls of thousands of small shad/minnows balled up and that's where the bass tend to be and what they are feeding on. I've thrown small profile 3.5" paddle tails, small cranks,smaller jetkbaits with no bites. Pick up a finesse 3" or smaller paddle tail or minnow bait and boom fish on lol. And that was in a location I've seen lb shad at lol. Huge shad that's 7" easy. Those small bait fish in bait balls/schools are easy meals and the bass get a mouth full of them in one swipe. So like I said location and other things determine the bait size to be thrown in any given day. Later fall and early winter the bigger bass want one quick easy meal and will hit big baits more often in my experience. But my point was you never get the same bait ideas or opinions from the bass community. So it's very confusing to beginners. Telling people by social media go throw big baits isn't the way honestly due to they may not have over a 4" shad in the body of water they fish lol. Saying throw small baits might not be the situation they are facing at that period of time or day. You need the right conditions, forage and location locations to throw big baits. Other conditions, locations and forage may call for a medium size bait others finesse small baits. People on social media need to learn to describe things more clearly imo lol. Say if you've seen big shad in you lake try a big glide or swimbait. Seen bluegill throw blue gill imitators, small minnows and shad try small swimbaits/ finesse baits. My point is you can't shove one style of fishing that works in a arra you fish to the entire country must less the entire world that's on the internet watching social media. It gets super confusing to people especially beginners.
@@nickkerr5714 it's actually not considering the small underspin at 1/4 oz with a 2.7 to 3" bait is being thrown on a baitcast mh fast action rod with 15lb line and the 6" paddle tail is on a 7'3" mh seimbait rod at max you need a heavy rod. All those are power fishing techniques and gear lol. I'm not talking strolling or deop shooting the baits. Straight retrieve with some pops for change in action with both. Or in the glides case reel techniques for action but thrown on the same swimbait rod I mentioned lol. It's all power fishing just different size and profile baits. And yes I bomb that underspin 45 plus yards with that setup and work them back.
River to sea is a good glide bait to and it's cheap. I use straight fluoride. And yes, it's addicting when you see them following your bait talk about excitement!!!
This is a tip to live by when gb fishing. When you get followers, don't stop your retrieve. If anything, speed it up, make it choppy. When a bass is after a bait fish, the bait panics, and tries to get away. It doesn't stop, and says come and get it.
I just bought an ark heavy action rod to start throwing smaller glides. I've only got a week of throwing it. Definitely seems to be something that takes a little more time figuring out. I picked up a savage glide, a 6th sense and a bass pro to get started. What mono are you using? Currently I put 17# trilene xl on the setup?
I only use fluorocarbon; mono works, and braid isn’t necessary. With braid, a backlash means the bait’s gone. Tying a leader is pointless since the line is only as strong as the leader, and constant casting weakens the knot. Straight braid also sucks because fish can see it, and the lack of stretch means you lose more fish.
I picked up a retired StCroix BassX SB rod over the winter when they were on clearance for $75. It seems to load nicely when you hook one. I’ve MOSTLY thrown the Chad Shad, and I’ve caught a couple on it in limited use. I’m currently running FC, and I have no complaints with it. My reel is a supremely underwhelming but still adequate Shimano SLX, but at least I’m getting in some reps. 😂
for lighter glide like a 4-5 in and even 6 in 15-17 lbs flouro is recommended. for heavy glides in that 8-12 in range 20-25 lbs. the weight of fluoro effects the nose action of the bait. mono makes it move up every twitch. too heavy flouro will make it nose down. its gotta be the perfect weight to keep the bait parallel.
For a newbie I would suggest a spro chad shad st croix bass x swimbait rod $100 any 200 size reel and 17-20lb copoly only i dont do braid to leader because of the weak point I don't do floro because it sinks I don't do mono because to much stretch. Copoly izzorline or cxx is the happy median 1/4 reel handle inputs and sometimes I will do what is known as chopping salad
I went down the swimbait rabbit hole in the Spring and now I don't even pick up my other rods. Big swimbaits take a lot patience though and some $ doesn’t hurt.
Skip the s-waver and try the Jerry Rago Thrunderhawk Cha Cha Glide. It's cheaper on Tackle Warehouse and infinity easier to learn as it actually glides.
It really depends on the size of the bait you’re throwing. I’ve tossed anything under 2.5 ounces on my 200 size Curado. My largest swimbait is around 6.75 ounces and I throw it on a 300 size Lexa. If you’re talking reel speed, mine are all 6.3:1 ish but I control them more manually than relying simply on reel speed
for lighter glide like a 4-5 in and even 6 in 15-17 lbs flouro is recommended. for heavy glides in that 8-12 in range 20-25 lbs. the weight of fluoro effects the nose action of the bait. mono makes it move up every twitch. too heavy flouro will make it nose down. its gotta be the perfect weight to keep the bait parallel.
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I've been using Berkeley big game mono exclusively!!!! I just have confidence in this set up ! 15-25 lb is my range.
I like 20lb mono personally. the bend of the rod and the stretch of the line really helps you pin the trebles. Braid really seems to get caught in the hooks when you do a chop or a 180 burn and turn. If I couldnt use mono id choose 17 -25lb fluro but mono has really shined on hard swimbaits for me
Your advice to throw a glide whenever you feel the urge to throw topwater really resonated with me. It was just the advice I really needed to hear it seems. I had the most success with a glide today that I've ever had. 👊
I only have one glide bait and it is the SPRO KGB Chad Shad. I bought a Dobyn’s swim bait rod and put my Shimano Curado 200 on it. I’m using 20lb mono.
I’ve thrown it a few times and enjoyed fishing it but I’ve yet to get bit on it. Hopefully I can hook up a few on it this Fall.
What's confusing to beginners, I'm not a beginner but...js. There's half the bass world saying throw smaller profile baits because the minnows and shad this time of year are smaller. Them there's the other side saying throw bigger profile baits because the bass arr feeding on big bait fish 😂. I find this time of year here smaller finesse baits work best and late fall early winter larger baits start working well especially for bigger bass. I think you need both and have to try both this time of year though. One will shine one will not depending on region, conditions and even area of the lake you're fishing.
If I know there are bigger gizzard shad around, I’m probably happy to go with bigger offerings. Plenty of times I’ve been around bait, thrown a small crank and snagged a big gizzard shad. I’ve also seen plenty of guys cash checks in October throwing 6-7” baits. I was actually out this past Sunday and watched a LARGE baitfish leaping for its life and flopping up onto some lilies. Big fish are still out there eating big meals. That being said, I’m sure there are plenty of days when small gets bit more.
@@benwilkey2060 this time of year in many places you have bait balls of thousands of small shad/minnows balled up and that's where the bass tend to be and what they are feeding on. I've thrown small profile 3.5" paddle tails, small cranks,smaller jetkbaits with no bites. Pick up a finesse 3" or smaller paddle tail or minnow bait and boom fish on lol. And that was in a location I've seen lb shad at lol. Huge shad that's 7" easy. Those small bait fish in bait balls/schools are easy meals and the bass get a mouth full of them in one swipe. So like I said location and other things determine the bait size to be thrown in any given day. Later fall and early winter the bigger bass want one quick easy meal and will hit big baits more often in my experience. But my point was you never get the same bait ideas or opinions from the bass community. So it's very confusing to beginners. Telling people by social media go throw big baits isn't the way honestly due to they may not have over a 4" shad in the body of water they fish lol. Saying throw small baits might not be the situation they are facing at that period of time or day. You need the right conditions, forage and location locations to throw big baits. Other conditions, locations and forage may call for a medium size bait others finesse small baits. People on social media need to learn to describe things more clearly imo lol. Say if you've seen big shad in you lake try a big glide or swimbait. Seen bluegill throw blue gill imitators, small minnows and shad try small swimbaits/ finesse baits. My point is you can't shove one style of fishing that works in a arra you fish to the entire country must less the entire world that's on the internet watching social media. It gets super confusing to people especially beginners.
It’s finesse vs power fishing. The debate has always been there
@@nickkerr5714 it's actually not considering the small underspin at 1/4 oz with a 2.7 to 3" bait is being thrown on a baitcast mh fast action rod with 15lb line and the 6" paddle tail is on a 7'3" mh seimbait rod at max you need a heavy rod. All those are power fishing techniques and gear lol. I'm not talking strolling or deop shooting the baits. Straight retrieve with some pops for change in action with both. Or in the glides case reel techniques for action but thrown on the same swimbait rod I mentioned lol. It's all power fishing just different size and profile baits. And yes I bomb that underspin 45 plus yards with that setup and work them back.
River to sea is a good glide bait to and it's cheap. I use straight fluoride. And yes, it's addicting when you see them following your bait talk about excitement!!!
This is a tip to live by when gb fishing. When you get followers, don't stop your retrieve. If anything, speed it up, make it choppy. When a bass is after a bait fish, the bait panics, and tries to get away. It doesn't stop, and says come and get it.
I use mono if I'm fishing cover or targeting bass and use floro for open water .
I use a Dobyn’s 795SB with a Lew’s Super Duty 300 reel
Great tips Tyler I am new at throwing the glidebait fishing thank you bud 👍🏻
Thanks for the tips ! Great video !
Thanks for the tips! New to glide baiting… how long of a leader off their braid are they using??
This is super helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for the info...just getting into glide baits,,,,sorry for accidentally hitting thumb down I should keep my glasses on bro
I just bought an ark heavy action rod to start throwing smaller glides. I've only got a week of throwing it. Definitely seems to be something that takes a little more time figuring out. I picked up a savage glide, a 6th sense and a bass pro to get started. What mono are you using? Currently I put 17# trilene xl on the setup?
I only use fluorocarbon; mono works, and braid isn’t necessary. With braid, a backlash means the bait’s gone. Tying a leader is pointless since the line is only as strong as the leader, and constant casting weakens the knot. Straight braid also sucks because fish can see it, and the lack of stretch means you lose more fish.
It will be a good time to use Waking & Billed Hard Swimbaits?
Thanks for sharing the info
I picked up a retired StCroix BassX SB rod over the winter when they were on clearance for $75. It seems to load nicely when you hook one. I’ve MOSTLY thrown the Chad Shad, and I’ve caught a couple on it in limited use. I’m currently running FC, and I have no complaints with it. My reel is a supremely underwhelming but still adequate Shimano SLX, but at least I’m getting in some reps. 😂
Tyler, What was the 80.00 dollar bait you picked up?
Bait sanity I believe?
6th sense draw could be a good more affordable choice too.
I definitely have one tied on throughout the fall because them bass are aggressive this time of year
for lighter glide like a 4-5 in and even 6 in 15-17 lbs flouro is recommended. for heavy glides in that 8-12 in range 20-25 lbs. the weight of fluoro effects the nose action of the bait. mono makes it move up every twitch. too heavy flouro will make it nose down. its gotta be the perfect weight to keep the bait parallel.
Do you use a follow up lure for missed hits? Like a wacky or something else. Great video as always!
Commenting to see if anyone answers 😬😬😬. It's a great question
For a newbie I would suggest a spro chad shad st croix bass x swimbait rod $100 any 200 size reel and 17-20lb copoly only i dont do braid to leader because of the weak point I don't do floro because it sinks I don't do mono because to much stretch. Copoly izzorline or cxx is the happy median 1/4 reel handle inputs and sometimes I will do what is known as chopping salad
For me a parabolic rod with braid to a flouro leader keeps them pinned pretty good Dobbin's fury 795 is sweet On a budget
I went down the swimbait rabbit hole in the Spring and now I don't even pick up my other rods. Big swimbaits take a lot patience though and some $ doesn’t hurt.
Braid with a steel trace 7 strand or single strand titanium leader bc the toothy critters in Europe 😅😅
I got a couple s waivers and I throw them on braid to 20 lb flouro or mono
Really curious what line other kayak anglers use. Feel like mono would be too stretchy on a kayak.
Good twenty pound mono isn’t really stretchy try suffix
Skip the s-waver and try the Jerry Rago Thrunderhawk Cha Cha Glide. It's cheaper on Tackle Warehouse and infinity easier to learn as it actually glides.
I always thought heavy mono would be best for glides since there is memory. With fluoro you’ll stretch stretch stretch break by the end of the day.
50-65lb braid to a SC knot 12 feet of 20 lb mono or fluoro, I am primarily fishing a lake that has 10-20 ft visibility.
20lb braid FG knot to leader is better
For these heavier glide baits do I need to use a certain casting reel? I know I need a specific type of rod but never hear about the reel.
It really depends on the size of the bait you’re throwing. I’ve tossed anything under 2.5 ounces on my 200 size Curado. My largest swimbait is around 6.75 ounces and I throw it on a 300 size Lexa.
If you’re talking reel speed, mine are all 6.3:1 ish but I control them more manually than relying simply on reel speed
@@OkieOutdoorAdventures thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.
This may or may not be controversial but honestly I use braid with no leader on everything lol
Lol I remember them days I had to learn how to tie that leader big difference and my catch ratio
Copoly on treble hook baits, fluro on jig hook baits.
Straight 20 lb mono big game
That's what I have been using
lmao this was a lovely commercial. think I'll stick with my jigs and rigs
Insanely expensive.
$30 is tank of gas for my car.
I always worry about pike too. I get bit off atleast one time every outing. Especially in the fall.
you drivin a prius??
One of your reels is likely SEVERAL tanks.
@@BradHouston95 i drive a manul pontiac vibe.
@@bradleyrussell1973 i have't bout a reel ovrer $40
for lighter glide like a 4-5 in and even 6 in 15-17 lbs flouro is recommended. for heavy glides in that 8-12 in range 20-25 lbs. the weight of fluoro effects the nose action of the bait. mono makes it move up every twitch. too heavy flouro will make it nose down. its gotta be the perfect weight to keep the bait parallel.