I still cant believe their going on and on about bullying when the only thing they could say is that they weren't greeted 💀Nj is so completely brainwashed by Mhj and poor Illit just being dragged through this and them trying to play the victim💀
If my friend is crying, I would ask her/him, "are you okay?" but Minji congratulates Hanni for crying during live broadcast is totally gaves it away. Minji even praised her crying face and saying "good job" for her acting in National Assembly. NJ clearly plan it in advance and use 'tears' as an evidence. And one more thing, NJ is an accomplice of MHJ, not "victims of groomer". Both MHJ and NJ need to be held accountable for their crimes (false accusations toward HYBE)
That first comment pmo too. They constantly say the New Ceo is trying to manipulate them by crying ( I dont think she was btw ) as if they havent been doing that exact thing is isane. Atleast the Ceo did it in private, the girls and MHJ has been using their tears to shift the general publica opinion.
Yes cos most real Korean not paid bot online are seeing that MHJ is just a lier . That's why her paid online bots are working overtime it's just noise, hybe is Patience cos they are playing the long game MHJ lies are catching up with , hybe knows MHJ can't stop lying she will eventually give hyne all the evidence they new. Right now online it's may look like antis are winning but hybe stocks are still rising, their artists are selling out stadium and arenas they are making money while SM Stan and antis cry online . Hybe artists win cos they are focused on making music
@@lovelyseo.18 they’re silent bc they know they fucked up and they have multiple lawsuits coming their way from other idols and companies, even seventeen seungkwan spoke against him
the new ceo came and slayed. shame they never gave her a chance but this is what happen when theyre goven so much money for doing the bare minimum, hey if u wanna do a crime do it in sk theyre so lax about it all (; (;
The closest thing I could’ve think of when I listen to illit’s music is oh my girl like in what universe does their music sound like nj? Not even in kwangya
@@aishabae7287 and not to mention expensive too. They should save the money and treat themselves to some good food. And go touch some grass while they are outside.
I love Newjeans so much but like… Oh my god it’s so hard right now. Especially with the recent hanni live with her laughing about paparazzi taking pics of her crying and hearing victims of actual workplace bullying, harassment, and abuse talk about how it hurt them have me so conflicted. I tried to defend them but I can’t with their actions anymore
But hybe is not innocent They said they collect negative comments of fans to improve But documents contains negative comments of other groups and praised TXT and lesserafim Why did not they add negative comments of their group Does they want to read other groups negative comments and help them
@@MAXUFF1010 tbh I feel like it was tampered with since it happens to have many people it shouldn’t even have but so happen to forget artist like illit and lsfm… But that’s my prediction Also I never said hybe is innocent. Everyone here SUCKS
agree with you, they were my favorite girls group. Min Hee Jin was and still in charge of them at ADOR. they are so disrespectful. they messed up big time.
@@MAXUFF1010 You call that RESEARCH ... collecting data is surveying -- google does it, x does it, all apps does it ... THEY collected it from fans like you and me and everyone else. --- THEY DID NOT ADD ANYTHING it is ---
They did it first when new jeans were having their last comeback 🤣 so why tf not do the same🤷🏾♀️ Hybe was playing dirty all this shit coming out during illits stupid comback yall are sitting here saying new jeans isn’t the victims, when it’s obvious they are victims, they had thier ideas STOLEN by a group from thier OWN COMPANY your ALL FOOLS HYBES MEDIA PLAY and yall eat that shit up
@@Kakashihatakevbunny wasn't it their mama having a press conference atleast 2 when NJ was having comeback 🤦and mentioning NJ to the point that we didn't even know that bubblegum was out And mediaplay is mhj work🤦since it's revealed she's sues journalist and KBS deleted their article about her cause she contacted them 🤦 Don't talk about the whole steal NJ blueprint cause her lawfirm macol confirms she's lose the case cause illit never plagiarised 🤦 So she's using other means to win the case
I just don’t think that new Jeans deserves all the Support anymore, like blackmailing their Patent Company with this really weird livestream? And what happened? Nothing because they have no power and without Hype they don’t have anything, even Hanni saying that their achievments for their Japan debut was downplayed at the assembly why was that a Spot to talk about that there? Well at this point I do think new Jeans is just min heejins dolls and they themselves are making dumb desicions after another. Don’t think new Jeans can be rescued In my opinion just because you were succesful doesn’t mean you can accuse others of copying or plagarism.. new Jeans members and min heejin are so arrogant honestly, they think they can survive everything
thats what i mean given how entitled they are acting its hard to find the will to gaf about these type of groups who have egos bigger than they boots. i dont mind if they have actual talent sure i will check them out but lately i just feel like they want something else so what do they need from ppl my age?
@@randomuser-nt9if exactly. idk how to phrase this any nicer, but you literally have to be stupid or delusional to try blackmailing someone with no blackmail and no leverage, let alone the CEO of your company. no employee would ever do that no matter how young, let alone in a work culture like south korea's. hybe could easily just put them on hiatus, make 3 new ggs, and forget about them after their contracts end.
Its really good to see this comment section.. The ppl who are actually mature and have their eyes open are these ppl and seriously i feel so so bad for illit .
For the open minded people let me remind you of a few things. What happened with the laptop? Where is the shaman? What happened with NJ plagiarizing the Mexican girl group? What happened with all her kakao talks? What happened with the harassment case of the former employee against MHJ and the other guy? What about her premeditated plan to bring down HYBE? What about her revising NJ parents letter? What of MHJ consulting with another company? What about her talking about other groups and slandering them? What about her talking about her credit for BTS success? What about all the media uproar with HYBE? Wasn’t this the plan from the beginning? What about all the leaked documents and personal information? On and on and on… Please do not forget WHO ignited all of this and their accomplices.
I saw on twitter a korean account saying they didn't have money for their rent but they still felt they had to contribute money to send a funeral wreath💀 Insane
And BSH recently gave 23 million to charity and BTS and ARMY have been donating to charities for years. Meanwhile antis are spending all their money on funeral wreaths and trucks to harass people. The difference! It is disgusting that they could be helping people and making a difference, but choose instead to bully someone who doesn't deserve it. No one deserves a funeral wreath. I hope they go broke and their bitterness and hate will destroy their souls in the end.
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 I know right 😥 there was a picture claiming to be Seunghan looking at fan letters of support on the underground I think? I hope he knows OT6 is a small group and SM let's him come back. Absolutely bonkers!
@@OrangeKittyMeowMeow And it's more heartbreaking that the other members is the one who really want him back. It's as if that they're doing their job to make people happy yet their fans themself can't make their idols happy by ruining their wish.
Here are my honest thoughts on the newjeans situation.(I might get hated for this but these are my honest opinions.) At first I really did support the girls I felt bad for them getting manipulated by their “mother” but as time went on I realized that they might just enjoy the drama. The amount of energy MHJ and NWJ have put into painting Hybe as the “evil monster” is baffling. And leaking other informations about other Hybe groups for their own selfish agendas just shows how out of touch these girls and bunnies(not all of them) are. And especially the National Assembly bringing some rich entitled idol to talk about “bullying” was honestly just sad to watch. I genuinely feel bad for the ones who genuinely needed that spot. Especially hanni’s fake tears and making the new CEO cry and for what? It made me sick to my stomach seeing minji and hanni laughing about the situation at the national assembly with their comments. I’m not going to support their problematic actions. Am so tired of this whole drama. And all that “allegedly happend” since hanni doesn’t have proof is that a manager didn’t greet her?!?! We don’t know for wich group the manager was apart of but if it was one of the groups MHJ had been constantly slandering and NWJ publicly supported them I wouldn’t talk to them either. Those innocent groups who got a tone of hate for no reason did not deserve that at all.
This. I’m a bunny and I been here since day one (literally… since day 1…. 30 mins after attention randomly dropped and I got the notification of this mysterious girl group) so this whole situation is so sad. I remember once Newjeans signed the petition I made a post on my twitter at the time saying what will mess of Newjeans is doing anything in this situation since now the petition got people thinking they approve MHJ behavior. When the eunchae and Newjeans situation happened I reposted that same post and was saying like their parents need to tell them to hush cus no artist in this situation should be talking since it will damage their reputation. Now we are here and like… it even ruined my view of them cus I tried to put back to praise and petition as first since MHJ is crazy and nj parents are lacking but now I’m so conflicted. I want better from them away from MHJ but I can’t support their actions
I also felt the same way as you. I supported NJ since their debut. At the beginning, I felt sorry to the girls for being manipulated & brainwashed but at this stage they are now MHJ accomplished for her selfish agenda. I have been saying the same things on other peoples videos & I get bunnies trying to defend the girls that they didn’t do anything wrong & I don’t have empathy for the girls. NJ might be young but they are old enough to know what is right & wrong. They are accountable for their actions and the live broadcast, attitudes, Hanni performance at the audit & Hanni/Minji live was not respectful. You have to earn respect so in my opinion they do not deserve it. I also blame the parents for not protecting their girls from MHJ. Even after MHJ has called NJ derogatory terms, they still side with her & support her. That is just so wrong. As a parent myself, I could not bring myself to do that. I would have removed my child from her care straight away. But I guess for them $$$ & fame is more important. Further more I want to say to those bunnies who defend MHJ, she doesn’t care about you. She had called you brainless kids so why defend her. She is just using you all for her own selfish, greedy agenda. She claims all she care about is NJ but all her actions shows it’s all about trying to get power & $$$. If she is really innocent as she claims she is, turn in the laptop to prove she did not attempt to overtake HYBE.
Apparently Hybe said that the manager was Illit’s manager, which is one of the groups that Min Heejin was supposedly slandering (I haven’t been watching any of the main videos so this is based off of other peoples’ words). So yeah, they probably did feel hurt by Hanni.
Seunghan deserves much better. All those who sent wreaths should be exposed and reap what they sow. Let Seunghan find a better company, one that will support and protect him.
I couldn't agree with you on the NJ and MHJ ones more! Like they saying they are the victims?? They wouldn't even be in this mess if it wasn't for them. And if Hannigetting ignored was so special why didn't she tell MHJ then? Like at the time of this she was still CEO. And even if she did, did MHJ do anything? NOPE, bc she doesn't actually care about NJ. No one owns a concept- like all of this is so stupid, bc what MHJ is stating is basically saying all the groyos who have girl crush concepts copied the first girl group to have girl crush concept. Like what? No one owns a concept, and there is a difference between similar and copying. To me (and to a lot other people ik) ILLIT IS NOTHING LUKE NJ!! NJ is so brainwashed at the point I don't even think they have brains anymore.
I fail to see how Yoongis incident was a big deal. “Luckily didn’t kill anybody” girl he was riding the scooter at walking speed down a sidewalk like 500 meters to his house 💀 at that speed he couldn’t have hurt anybody let alone kill them be serious
Exactly… nwjns have been brainwashed by that woman, and throwing others under the bus because of it Illit have a similar concept to them, but let’s be honest, if no one copied in kpop, there would only be about ten groups
Ok But hybe is not good at all just see their documents If min hee Jin leaves nj than it will be obviously they will get downfall I think that's why they are stick to mhj cause hybe also jealous that they did not involve in nj formation
@@MAXUFF1010 they weren't saying they're support Hybe, instead of accusing people of being Hybe stans for criticizing NJs for doing what they did, and saying 'NJs wouldn't survive without Mhj ' is stupid as hell. They would've if Mhj wasn't such a manipulative biatch.
@@MAXUFF1010 so does this give validation to newjeans and min heejin to lie and what report are you talking, if it is the recent audit of hybe than you should read the report yourself not believe half report provided by news outlet.
@@rosie-h1fI agree with you. They only picked slices to throw to public forming image that it is the company's staffs' wild opinions while the truth is that it is a compilation from KNetz' online forums. Kinda marketing search. I still couldn't believe people think that company would documentate their own gossiping.
@@wildlotus4339 thank god there are some sane people still left like you. I mean when these all allegation that hybe badmouth other groups , i was in kind of middle whether to believe or not but after suga's incident i don't believe any korean news outlet easily so, myself read the audit full than, it made me firm to not believe any korean news outlet. Can you believe it that anti are saying seunghan from rizze is out because of hybe and many more , some of them were even saying that we should beg newjeans for forgiveness as altogether they were not lying and they are protecting everyone 🙄.
This is your daily reminder that y'all can hate HYBE while still be skeptical about NewJeans and criticize them. Remember that these KPop companies are horrible, but your idols ain't no saints either.
Honestly, ILLIT has more of a coquette aesthetic or dreamcore some might say. I don't even see what NWJNS aesthetic at all. Their concept is more street style or underground Y2K style.....
I think k netizens are the most dumb people alive they didn’t care about taeil but they actually cared about a boy having a girlfriend?! And sending him a death threats 💀💀💀 some k netizens forgot that idols are people and with the NJ situation I agree with you so much
People keep forgetting that idols are just human beings like us They were unknown like us before they became idols Just because they are famous now doesn’t mean they don’t make human mistakes! These netizens are getting more and more disgusting
@@Kpopology347 ok, so if one random driver broke your body while driving a car, you stay calm and say, o, no problem, he is just human, he can do mistakes. So their so called mistakes makes huge problems for others. I supported this girls from the beginning, but no more.
Yeah…sorry but just having Bruno in the song was enough PR. Everyone he collabs with produces good/great results. It’s pretty transparent why idols kick off their solo careers with famous western collabs. Be impressed by idols who stand on their own two feet and do incredibly well.
fun fact is soon time will come about money and it will be satisfying to see those greedy parents turning into hybe's side while their kids are left in void having dreams about their well beloved mommy , and also yeah when i watched mv for magnetic i was like aw that is so cute never in watching that mv i felt illit were copies
I honestly didn't expect this from Nj Hanni......they shouldn't drag illit into their matter.....SM entertainment is one of the must confused and messed up company I've ever seen K-Netizens are so stupid and sending death wreaths to someone to live because he has a girlfriend his a human being for fuck sake they should grow up and get a life.....Nj saying she came here for her junior's is what I don't understand......they should live illit alone and let them build their career.
Apology to documentate public gossiping on artists ? It is from several public online entertainment forums. Hybe uses it to find out what the market wants. It is funny that people did not realise that they are being studied and now mad after being exposed.
U do realize that that leaked document is a compile of public opinion about popular Kpop act right? Basically it's a document of netizens opinion or netizens gossiping about Kpop in online forum that Hybe compile into a document for their internal analysis. Have u ever heard about public opinion analysis or marketing analysis & what went on in that? Company, especially entertainment company that work closely & rely on public opinion & public preferences has this thing called internal marketing analysis where one of the thing that they did is study public opinion about their product & their competitor product in order to produce better product that carter to public preferences. Now, since Hybe main focus is entertainment, their product is their artist, so ofc they gonna study public opinion about their artist & their competitor artist. Like this comment of yours & mine have the possibilities of ended up in ANY company marketing analysis without us knowing. Why? Bcz they study public opinion so they know their market target. & if you dive in more & find more info about that leaked document from both sides (not only from Hybe haters) you will find that that leaked document is purposefully just show the bad comments from netizens & the good comments from netizens are edited out by whomever stole that doc from Hybe internal management. & The documents are edited & presented in National Assembly in such a way that makes it look like it's Hybe opinion about those artist when no, it's an opinion from netizens like you & me. & Bcz we're at it, I just wanna say that those documents are usually very confidential that only available to certain departement or top management of the company. Whoever leaked that document will face serious criminal charges of thieve & defamation. Bcz what's going on bcz of that leaked document right now is a serious defamation towards Hybe.
@@yellowgreensunthats not how you conduct research hun , Monitoring reports are industry standard but an industry insider confirmed they Hybe did it doesn’t fall in line with the industry standards
Hanni’s over here crying and being a diva at the assembly thinking she’s on this pedestal, while she doesn’t realise her dear mother min heejin is is a bully and done so much manipulation. Everyone was saying she was “changing the industry” or “being an icon” like what?💀. She’s literally turning all the cameras to her just because someone ignored her. People who actually face workplace bullying or harassment only wish to receive that attention from media. She literally just went like “my situation is more important”. I don’t care what anyone says Hanni is a narcissist who only thinks about herself.
so they’ll take her crocodile tears and being not acknowledged to the fkn national assembly but when mhj groomed and harrassed illit kids they wanna be on her side 😭 yall let’s step back and not treat them like toddlers. they know exactly what mhj did yet they still find it right to be on her side, at this rate they are digging their own grave.
honestly im starting to not gaf about these much younger groups sure they arent all minors but none of them are my age thus even if they do crime or whatever i just end up not gaf'ing about them cause there is so much drama surrounding idol groups. even my faves havent escaped the constant backlash and if they do its like the last time imma give these groups a chance. sorry not sorry but they cant act like theyre above others or they cant act so innocent when they not they definitely get legs up in terms of some idols (; ifykyk.
NJ was not bullied!!! They are trying to smear hybe along with MHJ ... But guess what karma will follow them !! Hybe & BTS doing more donations and helping nation with economy but they telling ignore them is bullying.. not at all 😂😂
girl i saw smth and it makes so much sense now why hanni was invited listenn so basically she is vietamese australian right? and korean businessmans are trying to go on vietamese and australian markets specifically coincidence i dont think so
Hybe didn't want Danielle to be in Newjeans for some reason, just like how he didn't want Newjeans in the first place and created drama by making similar concept with Illit, for that last one, someone made a video about that hater account that said "I hate yoongi" they spelt his name wrong btw and someone following him home
You need to follow up the info well. NJ was supposed to be in source but mhj kept on delaying the debut and later asked for them to be in her new company. Source ended up debuting lsf because they needed to get out of bankruptcy. So it's not on hybe. Mhj kept on making excuses to push debut by a whole year
@@taegijihope4895 she was greedy. They kept on telling her to make a debut but she insisted on making ador. And later lied that NJ was sabotaged from being the first hybe gg. She had the chance and wasted it by delaying so source had to go with lsf to earn them money. Lsf was not yet ready for debut but it was the only option for source music at that time.
If they thought a few flowers (funeral wreaths) would scare us into letting Min Yoongi go out of BTS they are more delusional than ever, I thought. This isn't BTS's first rodeo and won't be the last. Army is used to the hate. Sure, it would be nice if it stopped but we don't expect it to in S Korea. Its been ongoing from the begining. It very sad in that heres a group who has achieved so much you'd think their own country would be a place that respected and honored them. Well nobody gets it all. BTS will always have Army. And Army has enough room under its wings to help other groups weather storms as well. But at present our guys are being attacked from many points and so is Army. Borahae 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Armys love 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑 to our seven kings. Kill your enemys with kindness. Offer to make appointments for bunnies to the the psycologists they so desperately need. When they rant at you instead of accepting your kind offer, let them know you'll be there should they change their mind and need you. This most likely will get you much hostile dialog from them. Tell them to love themselves as you love them because clearly they don't. Stand back and watch them explode. Wish them a good day and give them the phone number to a shrink.
wait can someone let me know what live it was when hanni was laughing cus the whole situation is pissing me off dawg and if its true that hanni did that... goodbye... also im so tired of mhj bs man like can she be gone already
Personally I think no amount of therapy will fix them. I hope they'll be fine but the chances of them coming back after destroying everything is bleak.
i will say this: I love NJ very much and I think the hate is very much blown out of proportion. Also it is very obviously who watched their live vs. who didn’t, who read documents vs. who didn’t. Hanni never said that she was ignore by the members. She said that she greeted the members and they did too but their manager told them to not speak to her as they were walking away. I feel bad for ALL groups and artists in involved. Also somebody y’all do kiss up to is hybe. I’m soooooo happy those documents came out. People were trying to say that they are “spoiled brats” or “thinks the world revolves around them”. Those documents proved that everything they said was factual. Sadly HYBE didn’t just talk about NJ but other groups as well.
The internal documents was a compilement of Internet comments. Market research is not mistreatment of artists. They help artists stay popular. The artists were never supposed to read them.
also if theres ever any creepy groomer boomers about im sure some of them are willing to give them a favour of the sexual nature 🤢 but im not talking about they song cookies am i? or am i? lmao
Read the internal documents , be well informed. This is very serious NJ and illit are victims of the situation. Isolation is a form of bullying , covert bullying is just as damaging as overt bullying. Just because someone rich doesn’t mean they can’t be mistreated. Joy News 24 Reporter Jiwon Jeong , if you want to find out what an industry professional thinks
I disagree Hani is using her privilege by addressing the toxic work environments in K-pop. It's fucked up to tell someone to STFU for speaking out, regardless of how insignificant it may seem to you. I could make the same argument “you should focus on more pressing issues like on going genocide instead of K-pop” Yet, we still try to appreciate the value in your perspective on whatever content you make without telling to “STFU NO ONE CARES!!”. The real issue goes beyond feeling ignored it's about the deep seated toxic practices that many companies impose on their artists, often silencing them due to contractual constraints. Hani doesn't need a major reason to address these topics her presence alone highlights the need for change, ultimately helping future idols gain public support and empathy. While hani showing bravery by addressing this issue in front of grown men, Go back to spamming comments or participating in pointless boycott projects.
New jeans are the victim 🤷🏾♀️ it was already shown that Hybe was trying to get rid of them. You're not liking them doesn’t affect them from being the top girl group and that's not what she even said on live you guys are looking for shit to complain about and believe lab is responsible for why illit gets treated the way they do maybe don’t take inspiration from previous groups from your own company 🤷🏾♀️
Omgg how delulu NJ fans are. Like godmother like daughters like fans. There is no documents If there was true documents then MHJ would have already shown it. Internal documents are literally public opinion on different kpop groups which is the survey conducted by Hybe. How come u guyss don't search what is actual truth before comm3nting.
You guys seriously 😒 I remembered the time of Lucas, Chen knetz and foreign fans protested that they should be removed from their groups, saying SM gives the lightest punishment for artists misconducts but now that SM has started giving the appropriate punishment you feel its too much and besides SM don't have all time to stop and prevent toxic fans or anti fans from placing wreaths or commenting negatively. All SM groups are so occupied with promotions and comeback preparations and besides RIIZE members would have led seunghan right cause it probably aint the first time seunghan would have done something like this for him to be caught means he's been doung this before, instead of everyone wearing an unnecessary sad face.
@@Seunghandeservesbetter Nahh. SM is much worse than HYBE. As we all know, SM has close relationship with politicians and they always help each other. They (SM, MHJ, S.Korea govt) works together to attack HYBE. Don't forget that SM are the one who start the "slave contract" and most celeb that commits suic!de comes from SM.
Why can't someone not support mhj but also hate hybe at the same time..? Just cuz hybe got exposed for bad mouthing other groups, doesn't mean that mhj is innocent and now, we need to support her and hate hybe. Both of them are in the wrong here. So no, you are the one sucking up to mhj here. And its EMBARRASSING
@Army_stayy_slayyy HYBE didn't bad mouth other groups. They were comments from K-Netzs with positive & negative comments.The NA used the redacted part with only the negative comments to make it seems like HYBE wrote them. HYBE released a statement clarifying the situation, but the NA demanded that HYBE deletes it because it would make them (NA) look bad. Blaming HYBE for everything, make them look evil while MHJ looks like a saint and NJ as victims is all part of the 1945 project plan.
@@kimjeon_2016I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand this! And it is all part of mhj's plan she literally talked about it in that first press conference (I guess everyone has amnesia or something). Also, newsflash every company including kpop companies review what is being said online about their competitors and their own company. It's called marketing research. Nothing evil or ground shaking going on here.
ik Min Hee-jin is manipulating these girls. I will say tho that I do feel a little bad cuz Min and Jason are adults that are supposed to guide the girls but instead, they got all this. When Lassarfim's debut I dead fr remember saying " I thought Min's group was supposed to come first....... smt must've happened. like bro it was so obvious Min couldn't really do her job right without being emotional, I mean look at her conversation with sm when she was quitting. lady needs help
I still cant believe their going on and on about bullying when the only thing they could say is that they weren't greeted 💀Nj is so completely brainwashed by Mhj and poor Illit just being dragged through this and them trying to play the victim💀
@@Analou13 you’re so brainwashed by Hybe you don’t realize everything new jeans said has been proven. Take hybes meat out your mouth weirdo
If my friend is crying, I would ask her/him, "are you okay?" but Minji congratulates Hanni for crying during live broadcast is totally gaves it away. Minji even praised her crying face and saying "good job" for her acting in National Assembly. NJ clearly plan it in advance and use 'tears' as an evidence.
And one more thing, NJ is an accomplice of MHJ, not "victims of groomer". Both MHJ and NJ need to be held accountable for their crimes (false accusations toward HYBE)
thats messed up asf even if they have egos this is just bizzare behaviours
Y’all are so fucking stupid Minji didn’t congratulate hanni on crying she said hanni did a good job on speaking stop twisting words dumb bitch
They didn’t falsely accuse Hybe of anything
@@GonBon1 you can continue blindly defending the silly group
@@GonBon1 lol. Go to the court then. SUE THEM. Nobody stops them since april. Why only play around with media?
That first comment pmo too. They constantly say the New Ceo is trying to manipulate them by crying ( I dont think she was btw ) as if they havent been doing that exact thing is isane. Atleast the Ceo did it in private, the girls and MHJ has been using their tears to shift the general publica opinion.
HYBE is letting them dig their own graves and it's working. They would not lift a finger, they'll eventually kick themselves out. That's the plan
Hybe dug their own graves
@@GonBon1 Wrong!
Yes cos most real Korean not paid bot online are seeing that MHJ is just a lier . That's why her paid online bots are working overtime it's just noise, hybe is Patience cos they are playing the long game MHJ lies are catching up with , hybe knows MHJ can't stop lying she will eventually give hyne all the evidence they new. Right now online it's may look like antis are winning but hybe stocks are still rising, their artists are selling out stadium and arenas they are making money while SM Stan and antis cry online . Hybe artists win cos they are focused on making music
@@GonBon1 trust me hybe isn't panicking rn
@@lovelyseo.18 they’re silent bc they know they fucked up and they have multiple lawsuits coming their way from other idols and companies, even seventeen seungkwan spoke against him
the new ceo came and slayed. shame they never gave her a chance but this is what happen when theyre goven so much money for doing the bare minimum, hey if u wanna do a crime do it in sk theyre so lax about it all (; (;
I agree.
Slayed nothing she cried before she even got in the got damn court room
The closest thing I could’ve think of when I listen to illit’s music is oh my girl like in what universe does their music sound like nj? Not even in kwangya
@@ITSLEMOON thank God! I felt like I was the only thinking this like how the hell does nj and illit sound similar 😭💀
I thought I was the only one. They're not similar in any way. 😂😂😂
Sending funeral wreaths is so unnecessary
Exactly that was just another level of disgusting.
@@aishabae7287 and not to mention expensive too. They should save the money and treat themselves to some good food. And go touch some grass while they are outside.
@@aishabae7287 fr
I love Newjeans so much but like… Oh my god it’s so hard right now. Especially with the recent hanni live with her laughing about paparazzi taking pics of her crying and hearing victims of actual workplace bullying, harassment, and abuse talk about how it hurt them have me so conflicted. I tried to defend them but I can’t with their actions anymore
But hybe is not innocent
They said they collect negative comments of fans to improve
But documents contains negative comments of other groups and praised TXT and lesserafim
Why did not they add negative comments of their group
Does they want to read other groups negative comments and help them
@@MAXUFF1010 tbh I feel like it was tampered with since it happens to have many people it shouldn’t even have but so happen to forget artist like illit and lsfm… But that’s my prediction
Also I never said hybe is innocent. Everyone here SUCKS
agree with you, they were my favorite girls group. Min Hee Jin was and still in charge of them at ADOR. they are so disrespectful. they messed up big time.
@@MAXUFF1010 You call that RESEARCH ... collecting data is surveying -- google does it, x does it, all apps does it ... THEY collected it from fans like you and me and everyone else. --- THEY DID NOT ADD ANYTHING it is ---
U never tried to defend them ho
They keep on attacking illit even when they having a comeback 😭
And the fans included 😭
@@rosebooysen1693 they annoyed me so much
It's tiring. They might as well be fans.
@@Callcurls at the time I started liking kpop there's was fanwars between fandoms but bunnies are next level crazy😭
They did it first when new jeans were having their last comeback 🤣 so why tf not do the same🤷🏾♀️ Hybe was playing dirty all this shit coming out during illits stupid comback yall are sitting here saying new jeans isn’t the victims, when it’s obvious they are victims, they had thier ideas STOLEN by a group from thier OWN COMPANY your ALL FOOLS HYBES MEDIA PLAY and yall eat that shit up
@@Kakashihatakevbunny wasn't it their mama having a press conference atleast 2 when NJ was having comeback 🤦and mentioning NJ to the point that we didn't even know that bubblegum was out
And mediaplay is mhj work🤦since it's revealed she's sues journalist and KBS deleted their article about her cause she contacted them 🤦
Don't talk about the whole steal NJ blueprint cause her lawfirm macol confirms she's lose the case cause illit never plagiarised 🤦
So she's using other means to win the case
I just don’t think that new Jeans deserves all the Support anymore, like blackmailing their Patent Company with this really weird livestream? And what happened? Nothing because they have no power and without Hype they don’t have anything, even Hanni saying that their achievments for their Japan debut was downplayed at the assembly why was that a Spot to talk about that there? Well at this point I do think new Jeans is just min heejins dolls and they themselves are making dumb desicions after another.
Don’t think new Jeans can be rescued
In my opinion just because you were succesful doesn’t mean you can accuse others of copying or plagarism.. new Jeans members and min heejin are so arrogant honestly, they think they can survive everything
thats what i mean given how entitled they are acting its hard to find the will to gaf about these type of groups who have egos bigger than they boots. i dont mind if they have actual talent sure i will check them out but lately i just feel like they want something else so what do they need from ppl my age?
Just hate this brat old jeans and their mother🧢
No one gives a FUCK what you think
@@randomuser-nt9if exactly. idk how to phrase this any nicer, but you literally have to be stupid or delusional to try blackmailing someone with no blackmail and no leverage, let alone the CEO of your company. no employee would ever do that no matter how young, let alone in a work culture like south korea's. hybe could easily just put them on hiatus, make 3 new ggs, and forget about them after their contracts end.
Its really good to see this comment section..
The ppl who are actually mature and have their eyes open are these ppl and seriously i feel so so bad for illit .
Mature yet theyre dick riding Hybe when it’s PROVEN Hybe has been against nwjns since ditto era. Yall are in denial and it’s hilarious
For the open minded people let me remind you of a few things.
What happened with the laptop?
Where is the shaman?
What happened with NJ plagiarizing the Mexican girl group?
What happened with all her kakao talks?
What happened with the harassment case of the former employee against MHJ and the other guy?
What about her premeditated plan to bring down HYBE?
What about her revising NJ parents letter?
What of MHJ consulting with another company?
What about her talking about other groups and slandering them?
What about her talking about her credit for BTS success?
What about all the media uproar with HYBE? Wasn’t this the plan from the beginning?
What about all the leaked documents and personal information?
On and on and on…
Please do not forget WHO ignited all of this and their accomplices.
Doing god's work!
I saw on twitter a korean account saying they didn't have money for their rent but they still felt they had to contribute money to send a funeral wreath💀 Insane
HELP what knetz are a diff breed💀
And BSH recently gave 23 million to charity and BTS and ARMY have been donating to charities for years. Meanwhile antis are spending all their money on funeral wreaths and trucks to harass people. The difference!
It is disgusting that they could be helping people and making a difference, but choose instead to bully someone who doesn't deserve it. No one deserves a funeral wreath. I hope they go broke and their bitterness and hate will destroy their souls in the end.
@@OrangeKittyMeowMeow Like, the video where he saw the funeral wreath is just heartbreaking
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 I know right 😥 there was a picture claiming to be Seunghan looking at fan letters of support on the underground I think? I hope he knows OT6 is a small group and SM let's him come back. Absolutely bonkers!
@@OrangeKittyMeowMeow And it's more heartbreaking that the other members is the one who really want him back. It's as if that they're doing their job to make people happy yet their fans themself can't make their idols happy by ruining their wish.
Here are my honest thoughts on the newjeans situation.(I might get hated for this but these are my honest opinions.)
At first I really did support the girls I felt bad for them getting manipulated by their “mother” but as time went on I realized that they might just enjoy the drama. The amount of energy MHJ and NWJ have put into painting Hybe as the “evil monster” is baffling. And leaking other informations about other Hybe groups for their own selfish agendas just shows how out of touch these girls and bunnies(not all of them) are. And especially the National Assembly bringing some rich entitled idol to talk about “bullying” was honestly just sad to watch. I genuinely feel bad for the ones who genuinely needed that spot. Especially hanni’s fake tears and making the new CEO cry and for what? It made me sick to my stomach seeing minji and hanni laughing about the situation at the national assembly with their comments. I’m not going to support their problematic actions. Am so tired of this whole drama. And all that “allegedly happend” since hanni doesn’t have proof is that a manager didn’t greet her?!?! We don’t know for wich group the manager was apart of but if it was one of the groups MHJ had been constantly slandering and NWJ publicly supported them I wouldn’t talk to them either. Those innocent groups who got a tone of hate for no reason did not deserve that at all.
This. I’m a bunny and I been here since day one (literally… since day 1…. 30 mins after attention randomly dropped and I got the notification of this mysterious girl group) so this whole situation is so sad. I remember once Newjeans signed the petition I made a post on my twitter at the time saying what will mess of Newjeans is doing anything in this situation since now the petition got people thinking they approve MHJ behavior. When the eunchae and Newjeans situation happened I reposted that same post and was saying like their parents need to tell them to hush cus no artist in this situation should be talking since it will damage their reputation.
Now we are here and like… it even ruined my view of them cus I tried to put back to praise and petition as first since MHJ is crazy and nj parents are lacking but now I’m so conflicted. I want better from them away from MHJ but I can’t support their actions
I also felt the same way as you. I supported NJ since their debut. At the beginning, I felt sorry to the girls for being manipulated & brainwashed but at this stage they are now MHJ accomplished for her selfish agenda. I have been saying the same things on other peoples videos & I get bunnies trying to defend the girls that they didn’t do anything wrong & I don’t have empathy for the girls. NJ might be young but they are old enough to know what is right & wrong. They are accountable for their actions and the live broadcast, attitudes, Hanni performance at the audit & Hanni/Minji live was not respectful. You have to earn respect so in my opinion they do not deserve it.
I also blame the parents for not protecting their girls from MHJ. Even after MHJ has called NJ derogatory terms, they still side with her & support her. That is just so wrong. As a parent myself, I could not bring myself to do that. I would have removed my child from her care straight away. But I guess for them $$$ & fame is more important. Further more I want to say to those bunnies who defend MHJ, she doesn’t care about you. She had called you brainless kids so why defend her. She is just using you all for her own selfish, greedy agenda. She claims all she care about is NJ but all her actions shows it’s all about trying to get power & $$$. If she is really innocent as she claims she is, turn in the laptop to prove she did not attempt to overtake HYBE.
Apparently Hybe said that the manager was Illit’s manager, which is one of the groups that Min Heejin was supposedly slandering (I haven’t been watching any of the main videos so this is based off of other peoples’ words). So yeah, they probably did feel hurt by Hanni.
@@ChaeTwinkle Exactly, sacrificing other people for self - pity ain't the way to do things
@@coletteemmanueltotally agree!
Seunghan deserves much better. All those who sent wreaths should be exposed and reap what they sow. Let Seunghan find a better company, one that will support and protect him.
@@nneichan9353 i wish he re-debuts as a soloist. I will stan him 100%
I couldn't agree with you on the NJ and MHJ ones more! Like they saying they are the victims?? They wouldn't even be in this mess if it wasn't for them. And if Hannigetting ignored was so special why didn't she tell MHJ then? Like at the time of this she was still CEO. And even if she did, did MHJ do anything? NOPE, bc she doesn't actually care about NJ. No one owns a concept- like all of this is so stupid, bc what MHJ is stating is basically saying all the groyos who have girl crush concepts copied the first girl group to have girl crush concept. Like what? No one owns a concept, and there is a difference between similar and copying. To me (and to a lot other people ik) ILLIT IS NOTHING LUKE NJ!! NJ is so brainwashed at the point I don't even think they have brains anymore.
3 words: JUSTICE FOR SEUNGHAN
I fail to see how Yoongis incident was a big deal. “Luckily didn’t kill anybody” girl he was riding the scooter at walking speed down a sidewalk like 500 meters to his house 💀 at that speed he couldn’t have hurt anybody let alone kill them be serious
Exactly… nwjns have been brainwashed by that woman, and throwing others under the bus because of it
Illit have a similar concept to them, but let’s be honest, if no one copied in kpop, there would only be about ten groups
Ok
But hybe is not good at all just see their documents
If min hee Jin leaves nj than it will be obviously they will get downfall
I think that's why they are stick to mhj cause hybe also jealous that they did not involve in nj formation
@@MAXUFF1010 they weren't saying they're support Hybe, instead of accusing people of being Hybe stans for criticizing NJs for doing what they did, and saying 'NJs wouldn't survive without Mhj ' is stupid as hell. They would've if Mhj wasn't such a manipulative biatch.
@@MAXUFF1010 so does this give validation to newjeans and min heejin to lie and what report are you talking, if it is the recent audit of hybe than you should read the report yourself not believe half report provided by news outlet.
@@rosie-h1fI agree with you. They only picked slices to throw to public forming image that it is the company's staffs' wild opinions while the truth is that it is a compilation from KNetz' online forums. Kinda marketing search. I still couldn't believe people think that company would documentate their own gossiping.
@@wildlotus4339 thank god there are some sane people still left like you. I mean when these all allegation that hybe badmouth other groups , i was in kind of middle whether to believe or not but after suga's incident i don't believe any korean news outlet easily so, myself read the audit full than, it made me firm to not believe any korean news outlet. Can you believe it that anti are saying seunghan from rizze is out because of hybe and many more , some of them were even saying that we should beg newjeans for forgiveness as altogether they were not lying and they are protecting everyone 🙄.
This is your daily reminder that y'all can hate HYBE while still be skeptical about NewJeans and criticize them. Remember that these KPop companies are horrible, but your idols ain't no saints either.
Honestly, ILLIT has more of a coquette aesthetic or dreamcore some might say. I don't even see what NWJNS aesthetic at all. Their concept is more street style or underground Y2K style.....
NJ slog je plagiat!
I think k netizens are the most dumb people alive they didn’t care about taeil but they actually cared about a boy having a girlfriend?! And sending him a death threats 💀💀💀 some k netizens forgot that idols are people and with the NJ situation I agree with you so much
People keep forgetting that idols are just human beings like us
They were unknown like us before they became idols
Just because they are famous now doesn’t mean they don’t make human mistakes!
These netizens are getting more and more disgusting
@@Kpopology347 ok, so if one random driver broke your body while driving a car, you stay calm and say, o, no problem, he is just human, he can do mistakes.
So their so called mistakes makes huge problems for others.
I supported this girls from the beginning, but no more.
Yeah…sorry but just having Bruno in the song was enough PR. Everyone he collabs with produces good/great results.
It’s pretty transparent why idols kick off their solo careers with famous western collabs. Be impressed by idols who stand on their own two feet and do incredibly well.
Preach! Yes. Funeral wreaths to a living person is so distasteful! They all need to get a life!
fun fact is soon time will come about money and it will be satisfying to see those greedy parents turning into hybe's side while their kids are left in void having dreams about their well beloved mommy , and also yeah when i watched mv for magnetic i was like aw that is so cute never in watching that mv i felt illit were copies
Read the internal documents and be well informed
@@g_jeans1 what documents can you specify
I honestly didn't expect this from Nj Hanni......they shouldn't drag illit into their matter.....SM entertainment is one of the must confused and messed up company I've ever seen K-Netizens are so stupid and sending death wreaths to someone to live because he has a girlfriend his a human being for fuck sake they should grow up and get a life.....Nj saying she came here for her junior's is what I don't understand......they should live illit alone and let them build their career.
I watch the thing in full, Hanni was just straight up disrespectful and so unprofessional.
HYBE should just give Illit, New Jean’s catalog and let them take over as Illit/NJ’s 2.0.
Okay so whos here after the internal documents relaeased by hybe wheres their apology?
Apology to documentate public gossiping on artists ? It is from several public online entertainment forums. Hybe uses it to find out what the market wants. It is funny that people did not realise that they are being studied and now mad after being exposed.
@@wildlotus4339This whole drama should make you realize that K-pop fans are not the sharpest tools in the shed 💀
U do realize that that leaked document is a compile of public opinion about popular Kpop act right? Basically it's a document of netizens opinion or netizens gossiping about Kpop in online forum that Hybe compile into a document for their internal analysis.
Have u ever heard about public opinion analysis or marketing analysis & what went on in that?
Company, especially entertainment company that work closely & rely on public opinion & public preferences has this thing called internal marketing analysis where one of the thing that they did is study public opinion about their product & their competitor product in order to produce better product that carter to public preferences. Now, since Hybe main focus is entertainment, their product is their artist, so ofc they gonna study public opinion about their artist & their competitor artist. Like this comment of yours & mine have the possibilities of ended up in ANY company marketing analysis without us knowing. Why? Bcz they study public opinion so they know their market target.
& if you dive in more & find more info about that leaked document from both sides (not only from Hybe haters) you will find that that leaked document is purposefully just show the bad comments from netizens & the good comments from netizens are edited out by whomever stole that doc from Hybe internal management. & The documents are edited & presented in National Assembly in such a way that makes it look like it's Hybe opinion about those artist when no, it's an opinion from netizens like you & me.
& Bcz we're at it, I just wanna say that those documents are usually very confidential that only available to certain departement or top management of the company. Whoever leaked that document will face serious criminal charges of thieve & defamation. Bcz what's going on bcz of that leaked document right now is a serious defamation towards Hybe.
@@yellowgreensunthats not how you conduct research hun , Monitoring reports are industry standard but an industry insider confirmed they Hybe did it doesn’t fall in line with the industry standards
@@wildlotus4339 finally! its exhausting seeing people ganging up on hybe for no reason .
Hanni’s over here crying and being a diva at the assembly thinking she’s on this pedestal, while she doesn’t realise her dear mother min heejin is is a bully and done so much manipulation. Everyone was saying she was “changing the industry” or “being an icon” like what?💀. She’s literally turning all the cameras to her just because someone ignored her. People who actually face workplace bullying or harassment only wish to receive that attention from media. She literally just went like “my situation is more important”. I don’t care what anyone says Hanni is a narcissist who only thinks about herself.
i am so over NJ!
so they’ll take her crocodile tears and being not acknowledged to the fkn national assembly but when mhj groomed and harrassed illit kids they wanna be on her side 😭 yall let’s step back and not treat them like toddlers. they know exactly what mhj did yet they still find it right to be on her side, at this rate they are digging their own grave.
I love Illit please stream and show support they don't deserve the hate!
honestly im starting to not gaf about these much younger groups sure they arent all minors but none of them are my age thus even if they do crime or whatever i just end up not gaf'ing about them cause there is so much drama surrounding idol groups. even my faves havent escaped the constant backlash and if they do its like the last time imma give these groups a chance. sorry not sorry but they cant act like theyre above others or they cant act so innocent when they not they definitely get legs up in terms of some idols (; ifykyk.
NJ was not bullied!!! They are trying to smear hybe along with MHJ ... But guess what karma will follow them !! Hybe & BTS doing more donations and helping nation with economy but they telling ignore them is bullying.. not at all 😂😂
girl i saw smth and it makes so much sense now why hanni was invited listenn so basically she is vietamese australian right? and korean businessmans are trying to go on vietamese and australian markets specifically coincidence i dont think so
@@Wonycoded oh this is interesting 🤔
@@misssunnybae1074 not any businessmen samsung ones
Hybe didn't want Danielle to be in Newjeans for some reason, just like how he didn't want Newjeans in the first place and created drama by making similar concept with Illit, for that last one, someone made a video about that hater account that said "I hate yoongi" they spelt his name wrong btw and someone following him home
You need to follow up the info well. NJ was supposed to be in source but mhj kept on delaying the debut and later asked for them to be in her new company. Source ended up debuting lsf because they needed to get out of bankruptcy. So it's not on hybe. Mhj kept on making excuses to push debut by a whole year
@@BTSprincess_7Yes.
@BTSprincess_7 so this whole time, Newjeans should have a better Ceo and be in Source music😤
@@taegijihope4895 she was greedy. They kept on telling her to make a debut but she insisted on making ador. And later lied that NJ was sabotaged from being the first hybe gg. She had the chance and wasted it by delaying so source had to go with lsf to earn them money. Lsf was not yet ready for debut but it was the only option for source music at that time.
If they thought a few flowers (funeral wreaths) would scare us into letting Min Yoongi go out of BTS they are more delusional than ever, I thought. This isn't BTS's first rodeo and won't be the last. Army is used to the hate. Sure, it would be nice if it stopped but we don't expect it to in S Korea. Its been ongoing from the begining. It very sad in that heres a group who has achieved so much you'd think their own country would be a place that respected and honored them. Well nobody gets it all. BTS will always have Army. And Army has enough room under its wings to help other groups weather storms as well. But at present our guys are being attacked from many points and so is Army.
Borahae
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 Armys love
👑👑👑👑👑👑👑 to our seven kings.
Kill your enemys with kindness.
Offer to make appointments for bunnies to the the psycologists they so desperately need.
When they rant at you instead of accepting your kind offer, let them know you'll be there should they change their mind and need you.
This most likely will get you much hostile dialog from them.
Tell them to love themselves as you love them because clearly they don't.
Stand back and watch them explode.
Wish them a good day and give them the phone number to a shrink.
wait can someone let me know what live it was when hanni was laughing cus the whole situation is pissing me off dawg and if its true that hanni did that... goodbye... also im so tired of mhj bs man like can she be gone already
it's weird how you all keep targeting newjeans for speaking out when it's known that HYBE is a terrible company but okay!
NewJeans needs HELP. ASAP. Put them in therapy or sum… Respectfully. I love NewJeans and all.
Personally I think no amount of therapy will fix them. I hope they'll be fine but the chances of them coming back after destroying everything is bleak.
More like, deprogrammed from the cult of MHJ.
Do you people want "the perfect victim'? Are we supposed to believe only when people bleed abd are bruised?
best intros ever
i will say this: I love NJ very much and I think the hate is very much blown out of proportion. Also it is very obviously who watched their live vs. who didn’t, who read documents vs. who didn’t. Hanni never said that she was ignore by the members. She said that she greeted the members and they did too but their manager told them to not speak to her as they were walking away. I feel bad for ALL groups and artists in involved. Also somebody y’all do kiss up to is hybe. I’m soooooo happy those documents came out. People were trying to say that they are “spoiled brats” or “thinks the world revolves around them”. Those documents proved that everything they said was factual. Sadly HYBE didn’t just talk about NJ but other groups as well.
The internal documents was a compilement of Internet comments. Market research is not mistreatment of artists. They help artists stay popular. The artists were never supposed to read them.
Thank you hanni for standing up in an industry such as kpop. I'm actually very impressed
Shut up.
also if theres ever any creepy groomer boomers about im sure some of them are willing to give them a favour of the sexual nature 🤢 but im not talking about they song cookies am i? or am i? lmao
The dance was great but the video and lyrics ruined it
@@taegijihope4895 the only thing i cant get past with that song is the meaning of it its gross
@@randomuser-nt9if yeah, they covered it up by showing a CD
@@taegijihope4895 shame cause i liked ditto and eta etc
Read the internal documents , be well informed. This is very serious NJ and illit are victims of the situation. Isolation is a form of bullying , covert bullying is just as damaging as overt bullying. Just because someone rich doesn’t mean they can’t be mistreated. Joy News 24 Reporter Jiwon Jeong , if you want to find out what an industry professional thinks
Wrong!
The internal documents were compiled Internet comments for research purposes. The artists were never supposed to read them.
@@MHM6081 plenty of industry professionals have come out and said that’s not how research
I disagree
Hani is using her privilege by addressing the toxic work environments in K-pop.
It's fucked up to tell someone to STFU for speaking out, regardless of how insignificant it may seem to you.
I could make the same argument “you should focus on more pressing issues like on going genocide instead of K-pop”
Yet, we still try to appreciate the value in your perspective on whatever content you make without telling to “STFU NO ONE CARES!!”.
The real issue goes beyond feeling ignored it's about the deep seated toxic practices that many companies impose on their artists, often silencing them due to contractual constraints.
Hani doesn't need a major reason to address these topics her presence alone highlights the need for change, ultimately helping future idols gain public support and empathy.
While hani showing bravery by addressing this issue in front of grown men,
Go back to spamming comments or participating in pointless boycott projects.
Be fr. It was a bunny uncle fan meet not audit
New jeans are the victim 🤷🏾♀️ it was already shown that Hybe was trying to get rid of them. You're not liking them doesn’t affect them from being the top girl group and that's not what she even said on live you guys are looking for shit to complain about and believe lab is responsible for why illit gets treated the way they do maybe don’t take inspiration from previous groups from your own company 🤷🏾♀️
Omgg how delulu NJ fans are. Like godmother like daughters like fans. There is no documents If there was true documents then MHJ would have already shown it. Internal documents are literally public opinion on different kpop groups which is the survey conducted by Hybe. How come u guyss don't search what is actual truth before comm3nting.
"Top girl group" you say... but they're not in the top 100 of the kpop reputation charts anymore 🤔
정신차리세요!!!!
@@너갖고싶다Look even a Korean disagrees with your comment 🫠👎🏻
oh here comes the “they are the top group” “best girlgroup” “they achieved ___” excuses. like ceo like group like fans 😭
You guys seriously 😒
I remembered the time of Lucas, Chen knetz and foreign fans protested that they should be removed from their groups, saying SM gives the lightest punishment for artists misconducts but now that SM has started giving the appropriate punishment you feel its too much and besides SM don't have all time to stop and prevent toxic fans or anti fans from placing wreaths or commenting negatively.
All SM groups are so occupied with promotions and comeback preparations and besides RIIZE members would have led seunghan right cause it probably aint the first time seunghan would have done something like this for him to be caught means he's been doung this before, instead of everyone wearing an unnecessary sad face.
There was no doubt that SM ENTERTAINMENT is terrible but now hybe successfully took over
@@Seunghandeservesbetter Nahh. SM is much worse than HYBE. As we all know, SM has close relationship with politicians and they always help each other. They (SM, MHJ, S.Korea govt) works together to attack HYBE. Don't forget that SM are the one who start the "slave contract" and most celeb that commits suic!de comes from SM.
Yes SM is such a terrible company as you're sucking up to HYBE
What-
@@BEcauseILoveYooh Girl What !! LMAO
Why can't someone not support mhj but also hate hybe at the same time..? Just cuz hybe got exposed for bad mouthing other groups, doesn't mean that mhj is innocent and now, we need to support her and hate hybe. Both of them are in the wrong here. So no, you are the one sucking up to mhj here. And its EMBARRASSING
@Army_stayy_slayyy HYBE didn't bad mouth other groups. They were comments from K-Netzs with positive & negative comments.The NA used the redacted part with only the negative comments to make it seems like HYBE wrote them. HYBE released a statement clarifying the situation, but the NA demanded that HYBE deletes it because it would make them (NA) look bad.
Blaming HYBE for everything, make them look evil while MHJ looks like a saint and NJ as victims is all part of the 1945 project plan.
@@kimjeon_2016I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand this! And it is all part of mhj's plan she literally talked about it in that first press conference (I guess everyone has amnesia or something).
Also, newsflash every company including kpop companies review what is being said online about their competitors and their own company. It's called marketing research. Nothing evil or ground shaking going on here.
ik Min Hee-jin is manipulating these girls. I will say tho that I do feel a little bad cuz Min and Jason are adults that are supposed to guide the girls but instead, they got all this. When Lassarfim's debut I dead fr remember saying " I thought Min's group was supposed to come first....... smt must've happened. like bro it was so obvious Min couldn't really do her job right without being emotional, I mean look at her conversation with sm when she was quitting. lady needs help