We don’t use flash cards, but here are your flash cards. Don’t do drills, but feel free to generate some drills. We are different, but here’s the old school way to learn. Lol. That being said, I love math-u-see.
😂 It's the "I'm not like other girls" trope! I'm going to have to look at one of their actual books to see how they teach it. Do you use Math U See currently? How do you feel your kids do with it? We're using AIM with one of my kids, and they love it so far.
Also, the drills are for after mastery. So once they have learned through the build, write, say method and already know the answers, they can use the drills for improving speed and automaticity. The drills and worksheets are NOT for teaching the facts.
How sneaky! 😂 Have you tried the Facts That Stick series from Kate Snow? We aren’t to multiplication yet but the addition one was helpful! Mostly games with some worksheets.
I have heard so many great things about facts that stick! Lots of RightStart families use or transition to Kate Snow's math program. I've got to check that out some time. What math program do you guys use now?
@@SummerMeyers we use RightStart! And love it, but if there’s a concept that we need a little extra practice with or isn’t quite sinking in the way RS teaches we pull in Kate Snow, either facts that stick or MWC
This seems weird!!! They are flash cards!!! We’ve used math with confidence grade 3 with my 12 year old daughter and we went quickly as we skipped lessons but it helped her!!! This sounds like a drill method!!! I love how they explain arrays!!! I had a Greek math teacher that explained that awesome life changing moment you had and I’ve told my kids!!! They need to be more honest!!! My daughter has still got her blackline master for multiplication in her planner as it just guides her how to do it!!! We are going to be road schooling and I’ve made sure our bae ten blocks can be taken with us by better organising!!!
So I am intrigued by your hints about research about how best to teach math facts. I must admit I have spent most of my time researching how to teach reading. But I do have a 3rd grader, and we are coming up on really knowing multiplication well (we are using Math Mammoth). And I also have a 5th grader who knows her skip counting very well (thanks skip counting songs!), but tends to get a little off, and then make mistakes. Eventually I want them both (and the two little boys, some day) to really just have their multiplication facts memorized. Aaaand I know I am a heretic, but are flash cards really that bad? I know they are boring.... but other than that? Any book recommendations on the subject, or other reading? I will definitely be watching your teaching without flashcards movie again too!
I think I have PTSD with flashcards from my elementary years. 🤪 I would say there isn't anything wrong with flash cards, but there is a separation from the understanding to knowing. Typically math programs teach how the multiplication works and then students memorize the problem. I personally believe that more often then not, there is a disconnect between the two. Good math programs use what students learned about multiplication to practice and then reinforce the facts. It is definitely slower, but it stamps into long term memory which is what you want. Flash cards tend to stamp into short term and have limited access because it's dependent on how the problem looks. I love Mathematical Mindset by Jo Boaler. Phenomenal book about teaching math. It's geared towards traditional schools teachers, but there is so many good things about it including research. ❤️❤️
I had a video about teaching math. This was a longgggg time ago, so its not as engaging and I ramble a lot, but this is what I think about math. I hope it helps! ua-cam.com/video/ch0TgNLIPYM/v-deo.html
@@SummerMeyers I can definitely related to the school PTSD! That's why we won't be doing spelling lists in this house! 😅 I agree that it is better to really understand math facts than to have them surface level memorized. And I do see how flash cards can be used to give a false sense of understanding that isn't really there. I think I did watch this math movie, along with a few others of yours-- and I am definitely excited to try the 100s mat we bought on your suggestion! My 3rd grader is a very physical girl, so I think hopping the numbers will be great for her!
They really aren't flashcards. They are fact check cards. You use them to keep track of facts they know and facts they haven't mastered yet. If you are using them like flash cards, then you aren't doing the program correctly.
That's the selling line that Math U See uses. I can't say I see the difference between how Math U See uses them and how traditional flash cards are used which I why I pointed that out. I honestly do not have a problem with how Math U See uses them or the drills. I do think naming them something else though doesn't make it is something else. It's okay to think differently then me, and I found the program well developed for children who need additional help.
Yep! Love it, and it has worked really well with my kids. My oldest just graduated from it and is moving onto HS Algebra. And next year I'll be starting Level A with my 4 y/o. Are you shopping around for curriculum?
In your opinion could a child who is pretty far behind their grade level who has done math the traditional way just jump in and be able to do right start math... because it's totally different. I was told by someone that uses it for their child that it would be hard to just start doing right start if they haven't done it from the beginning?? He was in charter school from K-5 .. this is our second year of homeschooling
I don't know if I would necessarily agree that you can't jump into it late in the game, but I guess it would depend on what my child was struggling with and where I would want them to be in a year or two. RightStart is great for quickly teaching children to recognize place value which helps with basic facts. It's also fairly easy to cruise through lessons that kids already feel confident in, and slowing down where they need more help. How old are they?
@@SummerMeyers yes, they have a placement tool on their website that can help you find the right starting point. It is mastery based instead of spiral, so it is different than most school approaches.
I have been on the fence about this product. Thank you so much! This is exactly what i needed to make a decision!
I'm so glad it helped! ❤️
AWESOME REVIEW!!!! new subbie! Ive been researchinggggggggg alot! thanks for this!
We don’t use flash cards, but here are your flash cards. Don’t do drills, but feel free to generate some drills. We are different, but here’s the old school way to learn. Lol. That being said, I love math-u-see.
Matthew C? Love him too
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😂 It's the "I'm not like other girls" trope! I'm going to have to look at one of their actual books to see how they teach it. Do you use Math U See currently? How do you feel your kids do with it? We're using AIM with one of my kids, and they love it so far.
Also, the drills are for after mastery. So once they have learned through the build, write, say method and already know the answers, they can use the drills for improving speed and automaticity. The drills and worksheets are NOT for teaching the facts.
Very informative and insightful! ❤
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How sneaky! 😂 Have you tried the Facts That Stick series from Kate Snow? We aren’t to multiplication yet but the addition one was helpful! Mostly games with some worksheets.
I have heard so many great things about facts that stick! Lots of RightStart families use or transition to Kate Snow's math program. I've got to check that out some time. What math program do you guys use now?
@@SummerMeyers we use RightStart! And love it, but if there’s a concept that we need a little extra practice with or isn’t quite sinking in the way RS teaches we pull in Kate Snow, either facts that stick or MWC
I just love her personality!!
This seems weird!!! They are flash cards!!! We’ve used math with confidence grade 3 with my 12 year old daughter and we went quickly as we skipped lessons but it helped her!!! This sounds like a drill method!!! I love how they explain arrays!!! I had a Greek math teacher that explained that awesome life changing moment you had and I’ve told my kids!!! They need to be more honest!!! My daughter has still got her blackline master for multiplication in her planner as it just guides her how to do it!!! We are going to be road schooling and I’ve made sure our bae ten blocks can be taken with us by better organising!!!
It is weird! I'm glad I'm not the only one who was scratching their head about what to call these cards. ❤️
This is really great… except I’m not clear on who is Matthew C??
It's not Matthew C - it's Matthew See... or is it Matthew Sea?🤷♂️
right… I think it’s Sea… referring to the old Irish Sea shanty. (Matthew went to Sea, Sea, Sea… to see what he could see, see, see…)
You guys think you're so funny. ❤️❤️
Yes… yes we do
So I am intrigued by your hints about research about how best to teach math facts. I must admit I have spent most of my time researching how to teach reading. But I do have a 3rd grader, and we are coming up on really knowing multiplication well (we are using Math Mammoth). And I also have a 5th grader who knows her skip counting very well (thanks skip counting songs!), but tends to get a little off, and then make mistakes.
Eventually I want them both (and the two little boys, some day) to really just have their multiplication facts memorized. Aaaand I know I am a heretic, but are flash cards really that bad? I know they are boring.... but other than that?
Any book recommendations on the subject, or other reading? I will definitely be watching your teaching without flashcards movie again too!
I think I have PTSD with flashcards from my elementary years. 🤪 I would say there isn't anything wrong with flash cards, but there is a separation from the understanding to knowing. Typically math programs teach how the multiplication works and then students memorize the problem. I personally believe that more often then not, there is a disconnect between the two. Good math programs use what students learned about multiplication to practice and then reinforce the facts. It is definitely slower, but it stamps into long term memory which is what you want. Flash cards tend to stamp into short term and have limited access because it's dependent on how the problem looks.
I love Mathematical Mindset by Jo Boaler. Phenomenal book about teaching math. It's geared towards traditional schools teachers, but there is so many good things about it including research. ❤️❤️
I had a video about teaching math. This was a longgggg time ago, so its not as engaging and I ramble a lot, but this is what I think about math. I hope it helps!
ua-cam.com/video/ch0TgNLIPYM/v-deo.html
@@SummerMeyers I can definitely related to the school PTSD! That's why we won't be doing spelling lists in this house! 😅
I agree that it is better to really understand math facts than to have them surface level memorized. And I do see how flash cards can be used to give a false sense of understanding that isn't really there.
I think I did watch this math movie, along with a few others of yours-- and I am definitely excited to try the 100s mat we bought on your suggestion! My 3rd grader is a very physical girl, so I think hopping the numbers will be great for her!
They really aren't flashcards. They are fact check cards. You use them to keep track of facts they know and facts they haven't mastered yet. If you are using them like flash cards, then you aren't doing the program correctly.
That's the selling line that Math U See uses. I can't say I see the difference between how Math U See uses them and how traditional flash cards are used which I why I pointed that out. I honestly do not have a problem with how Math U See uses them or the drills. I do think naming them something else though doesn't make it is something else. It's okay to think differently then me, and I found the program well developed for children who need additional help.
Do you still use right start math
Yep! Love it, and it has worked really well with my kids. My oldest just graduated from it and is moving onto HS Algebra. And next year I'll be starting Level A with my 4 y/o. Are you shopping around for curriculum?
In your opinion could a child who is pretty far behind their grade level who has done math the traditional way just jump in and be able to do right start math... because it's totally different. I was told by someone that uses it for their child that it would be hard to just start doing right start if they haven't done it from the beginning?? He was in charter school from K-5 .. this is our second year of homeschooling
I don't know if I would necessarily agree that you can't jump into it late in the game, but I guess it would depend on what my child was struggling with and where I would want them to be in a year or two. RightStart is great for quickly teaching children to recognize place value which helps with basic facts. It's also fairly easy to cruise through lessons that kids already feel confident in, and slowing down where they need more help.
How old are they?
@@SummerMeyers yes, they have a placement tool on their website that can help you find the right starting point. It is mastery based instead of spiral, so it is different than most school approaches.