I worked on many New Holland small square balers and also the New Holland pull type and self propelled bale wagons back in the NH days at our local dealership. Good video!
The other reason the bales are discharged and positioned on the side..... This prevents the gophers and other rodents from chewing on the twine. When I was on the farm I fallowed the baler and turned the bales on there side. Later, when I was "promoted" came up with a 2 x 4 that extended beyond the discharge and would drop the bale in the "rodent free" position. GREAT STUFF
When I was 15, I helped the neighbors, They just a band new white 1070 std. tran. On are farm my mother and I had a new Holland 273 super sweep baler & a NH 1069. Mom and I (12-13-14 yo ) would average 34,000 bakers a year. We had 14' 400 Versatile sweater with a rollers. Oliver 88 standard gas tractor. Thanks for sharing. That was so nice first new tractor I ever operated, 15 and living the dream. lol 58 now, Great memories.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing your farming history. The Versatile swather would have been cool to see in action. I have several Versatile swather brochures but have not seen one in the field.
That is some cool machinery! I especially love the automatic bale loader and the Great Bend Loader on the 1070 is awesome! I never knew anything like that had been invented. Thanks for the great video!
I love that bale wagon. I worked every summer baling hay back in the 1960's and there was nothing like that back then. All manual labor but God was it fun!
Really enjoyed this video I have a 1069 bale wagon what a time saver!! I’ve Never see anyone unload it with a grabber like that I learned something new today!
It was the first time I have seen a 1069 unloaded this way. Normally I have seen them empty in a barn and a loader and grabber double stack the bales higher.
Nice video, well done. We used to sell our best horse hay at our feed store, 15 miles away from the farm. I generally tried to keep the hauls as short as possible, but in this case I would truck it there with the bale wagon itself, as the alternative was actually alot slower and involved much much more labor. Glad to see people out there still that aren't afraid of work. Good job guys!
Thank you BTP. Nice line of case tractor they have on thier farm. Never have seen the bale pick up machine in person. I have handle to many bales by hand. Nice looking hay. New holland has made a lot of machinery over the years. Stay safe.
just caught this video. great video and thanks for sharing. to me square bales were always more efficient than big round bales. never seen one of these machines before but glad I did not, since I earned lot's of money slinging and hauling and loading and unloading these square bales in my childhood and younger years. there was bailing two times each year (late spring and late summer) and numerous square bales to load and unload and money for a young kid to earn and put in his pocket.
Wounderful video about small square bale haying with some classic tractors. If you are ever in western Canada we run a similar operation except with green iron and New Holland Equipment.
The 1069 Stack cruiser was quite the innovative piece of equipment. Without it, small squares would be a whole lot more manual labor, and nobody wants that. Thanks for the video, BTP.
Matthew Hoag that's what the young teenagers need these days is Manuel labor instead of video games and puppies and time out in there room with there cell phones
With all due respect, when I was a teen I did help do this a fair bit at my relatives' farm. One bad move landed me in the ER in need of knee surgery, which wasn't fun at all. I agree they need to be kept busy and productive, but let's be honest. There are safer ways to accomplish that.
Matthew Hoag yeah had my share cast and stiches on our farm to but would rather have that happen to a young teens than the drugs and gangs and overdose there is just no respect from our youth's for their elders and for our service men and women who paid the ultimate price to keep us FREE
Cool to watch old machinery still operating as when it was new. Equipment must have been maintained and serviced as directed by OEM's Love fresh cut hay smell Have Great Weekend 🚜
Awesome! Just watching a friend use their NH 1036 bale wagon tonight. Cool machines! Love the ole 70 series Case's, I would have thought that baler would need more tractor than a 770.
1036 is an early self propelled unit. It has a V4 Wisconsin engine on it for power and no cab. Also the operator station is on the right side with a left hand pickup. Friends father in law bought it new back in I believe the 60's and it has never left the farm and has been in service every year since. It was one of the first ones in our area. Yeah them Agri King's do stand out. We had a 78' model 1270 on our farm in the 90's and early 2000's. Loved that tractor but it was traded on a 7120 Magnum. Sure do miss running that beast.
Just did a little research and I think I had the number wrong. By what info I can find online it is a 1045. I could sware it had 1036 on the front of it though. I will have to look at it next time I'm at their farm and snap a picture of it.
Great to see people using the good old tractors an equipment working as if it were still new. Did anyone else think that baler can eat some hay ? I did. Good thing they were baling it on ground. It would work a guy on a wagon to death!
I used to ride wagons when i was a skinny kid in high school. It made me strong. If anyone ever put bales on the ground I let them know it was up to them to get them off the ground!!!!
First tractor I ever got to take a ride in was a Case 2470. I am always on the look out for Case. It was great to find a bunch working in the same field.
Ever since I was 3 or 4 yo the very first vehicle I ever rode/drove was a massy furgeson tractor. Ever since then I have been into tractors/heavy equipment and never grew out of them
i enjoyed seeing how the new holland automatic bale wagon worked that is a neat piece of equipment i always wondered how they worked i have afriend his family has one like on here and they have one you pull with a tractor neat video
Very cool. I could always hear the unique sound of a New Holland bake wagon rolling down the road from far away as a kid and I would run out of the house to see it rolling by my parents house.
At 7:30 A bale falls back of the row in the bale wagon leaving a hole in the stack. How does that affect the stack or the unit lifting that bale line. Seems like the hole would allow all the bales to move and potentially fall out of the grapple arms.
I had not noticed that while filming. It must auto correct because on the return trip you can see it put the stack up and all the bales are even in the new tier.
That’s how the auto tie function works. Spikes hold the 2 outer bales, then only 2 bales are flipped up for a couple times. The 2 outer bales slide out and create a more secure stack.
He actually said it right! He pronounced Racine like "Ray seen" and didn't butcher it like everyone else does by saying "R'cine" there's an "a" in there folks. And by the way, I live in Racine Ohio, which is named after Racine Wisconsin. Formerly it was known as Graham Station Ohio.
As a young adult farming with my dad in northwestern Minnesota, we had a pull-type Stackliner. While not real speedy, it certainly was a labor saver. A bit of advice though. Mount the quarter turn chute the other way so the bales drop cut side down. That way if it rains before the bales get picked up they will shed water. It looks like New Holland finally copied John Deere and went with an auger and fork to feed hay into the bale chamber. The older New Holland balers with tines on a chain never could make a tight bale like the John Deere. Consequently the stacks would tip over because the bales were so sloppy.
bigtractorpower Regardless, it still has the fork stuffing hay into the chamber. I think that folding action is what makes such tight bales from a John Deere baler. We had a New Holland baler and had trouble getting the stacks to stand. My uncle's John Deere baler made bales that were like bricks. The stacks stood perfectly!
It would be neat to do a bale comparison of the John Deere, New Holland and Hesston bales. Here in WKY the New Holland’s is what everyone runs. I have not found a Deere anywhere. Where I grew up in New York all you see is John Deere balers.
@@bigtractorpower Here in Kansas we primarily have JD or new Holland small square bales. I ran a JD 348 string tie for many years and it worked great but I recently started running an inline Hesston 4590 and never looked back. It will eat hay and walk away from any other small square balers. It's nice to put the "green" help on it because all they have to do is startle the row and go.
Another brilliant video, regarding the New Holland bale collector ,from my point of view, it may have been more efficient had they set down the bales there, that way he or she could go and collect more while the flat 8 loader was loading the truck. Kevin London Taxi driver.
Damn! I remember all the summers I spent baling hay and straw, and all by hand, the collector and stacker would have been so nice. I'm wondering how they handle putting up in the hey mow, we did it with a large fork pulled up by tractor and then hand stacked . but we were young and dumb, got paid very little(1965) by today's standards, but had allot of fun.
My first job was stacking hay in a barn off kick bale wagons. These automatic bale wagons normally just drive in the barn drop the 160 bale stack and roll out. The farm can stack a second tier of bales using the loader tractor.
The quarter turn chute off the baler did not work so well for us on the side of a butte 500ft high. They all rolled down hill the first season lol. So the next year we had to harvest and bale going up and down the hill.,We could not us a truck or bale stacker as they tipped over when they tried to turn when mostly loaded! It was a circus until we just started at the top and loaded down hill and then hit flat ground and could just use a trailer to haul them down to the flat area and transfer to the trucks.lol it was interesting and fun but expensive lol,
Curious if someone may answer this: Years ago we used to do custom cut, raking, baling and hauling here in Fresno, Ca. We had a NH-290 and NH-500 3 wire baler as well as the NH-1075 Harrow Bed. My question is this, I notice most if not all small bales produced in the mid-west going east are 2 wire. Does anyone put up 3 wire bales? Also, is the 1069 bale Wagon designation specifically for the 2 wire? It's been a long time since i've driven a Harrow Bed or cut hay...but I sure do miss it. There is not a better aroma than a freshly swathed hay field....except maybe a rare rain storm on dry dirt in the summer time. Or the smell of corn silage in the stack on a winters evening.
I think wire bales and three wires is a South Western process. The farms here in Kentucky and where I grew up in New York run two string twin. The 1069 can collect 14x18 and 16x18 bales.
The 770 looks bigger than 56hp to me from a distance. I know a JD 2630 was 70hp and it was a utility tractor that looked about the same size or marginally smaller, but I guess it is what spins off the drive train that counts.
I still find hay wagons to be the most efficient way of getting small bales out of the field. You missed the best part of that hay wagon when it auto ties and it shoots the spikes up and kicks the middle of the three bales off and turns the two outer bales perpendicular to the other bales. New holland's finest piece of engineering.
Super wierd seeing a bale wagon and a bale fork in the same field. We never got bale wagons and instead had bale accumulators behind our balers that left the bales in 8 packs which we would pick up with a fork like you see at the end. Bale accumulators were the main way to haul hay until bale wagons replaced them, so really weird seeing them in the same field.
bigtractorpower I've never seen a kuhn accumulator. We had Farmhand accumulators. Some nights they worked great, others not so we'll (kind of like baler knotters). The accumulators had one nice feature, out here in the west we bale hay at night until the dew gets too heavy making the hay too wet to bale. When that happened the bales were too heavy for the accumulators to push off. So we'd bale till that point and quit for the night.
Could you ask people what they think about their tractors and how they compare to other similar equipment they tried ... which is better,.. case quad or john deere ?
Neat video. Just curious, but that would have to be one heck of an operator to load 160 bales in 5 minutes a stated in the video. The bales are close together, but I think 5 minutes is a little optimistic ;) Having run a pull type 1033 New Holland bale wagon for years I'd be hard pressed to fill it with 103(with stack tied) in under 20. Enjoyed the video though
I based the time on filming the bale wagon on several fills in the field. I just watch the minutes recorded on the camera. In this field 5 minutes was the average. It had a hiccup here in there where it stopped to reset a bale on the feeding chain. Over all it was 5 minutes. When I am filming I find it helpful to film an entire loop to get an idea of what a machine can do weather it’s a Forage Harvester, combine or bale wagon. The time stamp makes a good log. The pull type bale wagons are neat. I need to get one filmed.
Really not sure if NH still makes the bale wagons any more, haven't seen any at my local dealership for over 10 yrs or more. Then again, most farmers around here have switched to round/big square bales too or, simply made their own version of bale wagon. Cheers :)
Anyone else think it was weird that they have a 100+ hp tractor pulling the rake and only a 50 hp tractor on the baler? We used to run a baler that size with a International 3688 which is 125 PTO hp. (3688 was a total POS BTW)
The 770 runs a wheel rake too. They unhooked the 770 from the second rake to run the baler because the air conditioning in the 1070 is not working. Better to be in the open air on the 770 than in a hot cab on the 1070.
The tractor with the loader would be running all over the field. The stack wagon moves much faster. Normally they would just drive the stack wagon right to the barn and empty it in the stack.
I grew up farming in the 80's... never saw a stack cruiser that I remember. Most bigger farms back then used throwers and catcher wagons. Curious, why doesn't the hay wagon dump that stack and keep going, rather than wait for the tractor to pull them all off to load on the trailer? This is a neat operation, but I'd want to compare the efficiencies and costs to running an accumulator. Great video!
I remember kick balers and throwers well. Where I grew up in Ny these 1069 bale wagons replaced all the local kick balers and wagons. They did not completely unload the 1069 in the video because the field is on a hill so there was no level place to start a stack.
If my memory serves correctly, the NH bale wagons were hyd brakes just like on a car. There are different makes of bale wagons, many farmer made that do have air brakes so, it really depends on what you find out there. :)
I bet your about 70 miles from me. If your down on the horse farm country. I'm east of you. Ever hear of the Rankin farms ? Theyr right up from me a mile or so
Why on earth do they not just dump the whole stack in the corner of the field and have the tractor load the trailer whilst the bale accumulator is back out picking up again??would be far more efficient......
A full height stack often looses the rear/upper bales when push off the first load. I was watching to see if it all came tumbling down--they cheated and unloaded right from the harobed with the bale grabber.
The equipment in this video is all over 45 years old minus the Hesston rake which is 20 years old and the New Holland Baler is 5 years old. If it was all new machines yes there would be a big investment here but the tractors are probably worth $5-$8,000.
Not my money's, not my circus... But.. we run stack cruisers up and down the highway all the time.... If we are going to be loading trucks out of the field, we stack it.. that's what the machine is made to do. (We have been known to load a stacker with a grapple before ) Generally, one would park a little closer to the truck too... Save a little time.. Good video though!! Thanks!!
I love the automatic bale wagon but I think it is a waste of time other then saving on man power. We always had enough help on the farm and we would load 80 bales a wagon then put 4 wagons together and drive 5 miles to the barn and unload them in the barn all by good old man power. Seems like your touching the same bales a lot of times to get them to the barn. Just my opinion Great video though.
There are allot of used automatic bale wagons out there. Here are a few on tractor house @ www.tractorhouse.com/listings/new-holland-bale-accumulators-movers-for-sale-in-nebraska/?categoryid=1151&country=usa&eventtype=for-sale&manufacturer=new+holland&state=nebraska
Not-a-farmer-here: Thank you BTP for showing this operation which I had never seen on TV, magazine or some other website.
Thank you for watching. I enjoy filming and sharing farm machines.
Grew up running 1049's and 1069's bale wagons. miss those days!
Thank you so much for taking the time to describe the chemical tank atop the small baler at around 4:20
Certainly. It stands out on the baler and I thought it would bring some questions.
I worked on many New Holland small square balers and also the New Holland pull type and self propelled bale wagons back in the NH days at our local dealership. Good video!
Love seeing the old 70 series still going strong in the field thanks for the video 👍
Me too.
Great to see people still using the older model Case tractors
I was excited to find a bunch of Case tractors working in one place.
Great video of classic Case tractors. So of those I haven’t seen in years.
The other reason the bales are discharged and positioned on the side..... This prevents the gophers and other rodents from chewing on the twine. When I was on the farm I fallowed the baler and turned the bales on there side. Later, when I was "promoted" came up with a 2 x 4 that extended beyond the discharge and would drop the bale in the "rodent free" position. GREAT STUFF
When I was 15, I helped the neighbors, They just a band new white 1070 std. tran.
On are farm my mother and I had a new Holland 273 super sweep baler & a NH 1069.
Mom and I (12-13-14 yo ) would average 34,000 bakers a year.
We had 14' 400 Versatile sweater with a rollers. Oliver 88 standard gas tractor.
Thanks for sharing.
That was so nice first new tractor I ever operated, 15 and living the dream. lol
58 now, Great memories.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing your farming history. The Versatile swather would have been cool to see in action. I have several Versatile swather brochures but have not seen one in the field.
Really nice farm with classic equipment. Nice find
I have wanted to feature Case for a long time. This was a great chance to see several at ounce.
That is some cool machinery! I especially love the automatic bale loader and the Great Bend Loader on the 1070 is awesome! I never knew anything like that had been invented. Thanks for the great video!
The New Holland automatic bale wagon is one of my favorite machines.
I love that bale wagon. I worked every summer baling hay back in the 1960's and there was nothing like that back then. All manual labor but God was it fun!
My first job was unloading bale wagons on to a hay elevator.
bigtractorpower Tough job. Builds character though!
Ohhhhh, Erik is gonna love this video! Especially the hay accumulator!
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Really enjoyed this video I have a 1069 bale wagon what a time saver!! I’ve Never see anyone unload it with a grabber like that I learned something new today!
It was the first time I have seen a 1069 unloaded this way. Normally I have seen them empty in a barn and a loader and grabber double stack the bales higher.
Nice video, well done. We used to sell our best horse hay at our feed store, 15 miles away from the farm. I generally tried to keep the hauls as short as possible, but in this case I would truck it there with the bale wagon itself, as the alternative was actually alot slower and involved much much more labor.
Glad to see people out there still that aren't afraid of work. Good job guys!
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you BTP. Nice line of case tractor they have on thier farm. Never have seen the bale pick up machine in person. I have handle to many bales by hand. Nice looking hay. New holland has made a lot of machinery over the years. Stay safe.
Thank you for the comment and watching. You are a BTP super fan. I was excited to finally get to feature a bunch of Case tractors with this video.
bigtractorpower. Thank you for the complement. It is always a good thing to see a new video from you. Stay safe.
just caught this video. great video and thanks for sharing. to me square bales were always more efficient than big round bales. never seen one of these machines before but glad I did not, since I earned lot's of money slinging and hauling and loading and unloading these square bales in my childhood and younger years. there was bailing two times each year (late spring and late summer) and numerous square bales to load and unload and money for a young kid to earn and put in his pocket.
Thank you for watching. My first job on a farm was unloading bales from kick bale wagons. Good money for a kid.
...my first summer job, Bensalem Pennsylvania, 1966!
This was one incredible nice video, from start to finish, Thanks BTP
Thank you for watching and commenting. You are a great BTP fan.
Only one reason, the effort, facts, great equipment and hard work you put into you work, well done
Cool if one can afford all that equipment, Those new Holland bale pickers sure save time in the field when you got that many small bales to pick up.
Wounderful video about small square bale haying with some classic tractors. If you are ever in western Canada we run a similar operation except with green iron and New Holland Equipment.
Thank you for the invite. I hope to get to Canada to film at some point.
Awesome it's really nice to see a j i case tractors still working in the fields
It was a nice filming opportunity to find so many classic Case tractors in one spot.
The 1069 Stack cruiser was quite the innovative piece of equipment. Without it, small squares would be a whole lot more manual labor, and nobody wants that. Thanks for the video, BTP.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Matthew Hoag that's what the young teenagers need these days is Manuel labor instead of video games and puppies and time out in there room with there cell phones
With all due respect, when I was a teen I did help do this a fair bit at my relatives' farm. One bad move landed me in the ER in need of knee surgery, which wasn't fun at all. I agree they need to be kept busy and productive, but let's be honest. There are safer ways to accomplish that.
Matthew Hoag yeah had my share cast and stiches on our farm to but would rather have that happen to a young teens than the drugs and gangs and overdose there is just no respect from our youth's for their elders and for our service men and women who paid the ultimate price to keep us FREE
Nothing beats the old white hood JI Case tractors.
They a stand out tractors.
I'm a case fan but you have to hand it to deere, they got the powershift right first and rode off into the distance
The white 94 series is the smartest looking tractor of all time. Would love to see videos of those.
Cool to watch old machinery still operating as when it was new. Equipment must have been maintained and serviced as directed by OEM's Love fresh cut hay smell Have Great Weekend 🚜
There is nothing better than the smell of fresh cut hay and classic tractors at work in the field.
Awesome! Just watching a friend use their NH 1036 bale wagon tonight. Cool machines! Love the ole 70 series Case's, I would have thought that baler would need more tractor than a 770.
The Agri Kong’s sure stand out. Thank you for sharing about the 1036. What tractor was pulling it?
1036 is an early self propelled unit. It has a V4 Wisconsin engine on it for power and no cab. Also the operator station is on the right side with a left hand pickup. Friends father in law bought it new back in I believe the 60's and it has never left the farm and has been in service every year since. It was one of the first ones in our area. Yeah them Agri King's do stand out. We had a 78' model 1270 on our farm in the 90's and early 2000's. Loved that tractor but it was traded on a 7120 Magnum. Sure do miss running that beast.
Just did a little research and I think I had the number wrong. By what info I can find online it is a 1045. I could sware it had 1036 on the front of it though. I will have to look at it next time I'm at their farm and snap a picture of it.
Great to see people using the good old tractors an equipment working as if it were still new.
Did anyone else think that baler can eat some hay ? I did. Good thing they were baling it on ground. It would work a guy on a wagon to death!
I was excited to find a bunch of Case tractors in one spot.
I used to ride wagons when i was a skinny kid in high school. It made me strong. If anyone ever put bales on the ground I let them know it was up to them to get them off the ground!!!!
Some well kept Case's. The hay grappler was interesting, never seen that before.
It was fun to find a bunch of Case tractors in one spot.
Woohoo!!!! Long live JI CASE!!!!!! Glad you're starting to get some on video
First tractor I ever got to take a ride in was a Case 2470. I am always on the look out for Case. It was great to find a bunch working in the same field.
Enjoyed watching production of small bales,
Enjoyed the video. Lot less blisters this way.
It sure does help.
I burst out laughing when you said "juices flow out", lol, guess I'm a bit hungry!
Great video! Love those Case tractors. Thanks
I am a Case fan. I was glad to find a bunch in one field.
These guys have it down pat!!
They move right along. It’s the first time I have seen directly unloaded in the field this way.
Wow just wow this takes me back when I was living on the farm thanks for the video 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🚜🚜🚜
Works great on level fields.
Ever since I was 3 or 4 yo the very first vehicle I ever rode/drove was a massy furgeson tractor. Ever since then I have been into tractors/heavy equipment and never grew out of them
Very cool Dakota. I have liked tractors since I could walk. I got ride on a Case 1060 combine and have been fascinated ever since.
I baled and raked with a 970 ji case tractor, it was my favorite farm chore!
Very cool. I like Agri-Kings.
Are the John Deeres moving a little bit slow? What are they afraid of? Great video, thanks!
i enjoyed seeing how the new holland automatic bale wagon worked that is a neat piece of equipment i always wondered how they worked i have afriend his family has one like on here and they have one you pull with a tractor neat video
Thank you for watching. I hope to find a pull type model to film.
The New Holland bale wagons or "harrowbeds" as we call them here in Washington state are very common in the pacific north west.
They are neat machines. One of my favorite farm machines.
We have a 1089 on our farm just used it about a week ago to pick up 2nd cut alfalfa.
Where are you located Ryan? I'm in tri cities.
Carpentry TV Toppenish about 18 miles south of Yakima.
Ryan Noel im from oregon and we run 3 of them but we call them bale wagons
04:07 the classic farm summer scene you could film. A man in a straw hat baling hay with a smile on his face
That was the farmer. He enjoys running classic Case tractors.
We used to call the bale wagon the "Hay Monster" when we were kids
Very cool. I could always hear the unique sound of a New Holland bake wagon rolling down the road from far away as a kid and I would run out of the house to see it rolling by my parents house.
I like that 1070 N loader perfect size
At 7:30 A bale falls back of the row in the bale wagon leaving a hole in the stack. How does that affect the stack or the unit lifting that bale line. Seems like the hole would allow all the bales to move and potentially fall out of the grapple arms.
I had not noticed that while filming. It must auto correct because on the return trip you can see it put the stack up and all the bales are even in the new tier.
That’s how the auto tie function works. Spikes hold the 2 outer bales, then only 2 bales are flipped up for a couple times. The 2 outer bales slide out and create a more secure stack.
What a barn!!!
👍 that is a local events center.
Another excellent video - and very informative!
Thank you for watching.
He actually said it right! He pronounced Racine like "Ray seen" and didn't butcher it like everyone else does by saying "R'cine" there's an "a" in there folks. And by the way, I live in Racine Ohio, which is named after Racine Wisconsin. Formerly it was known as Graham Station Ohio.
I watched the local Racine news on UA-cam to make sure I pronounced the city name correctly.
Good on ya!
As a young adult farming with my dad in northwestern Minnesota, we had a pull-type Stackliner. While not real speedy, it certainly was a labor saver.
A bit of advice though. Mount the quarter turn chute the other way so the bales drop cut side down. That way if it rains before the bales get picked up they will shed water.
It looks like New Holland finally copied John Deere and went with an auger and fork to feed hay into the bale chamber. The older New Holland balers with tines on a chain never could make a tight bale like the John Deere. Consequently the stacks would tip over because the bales were so sloppy.
Great history. This BC5070 has the needle fingers for gathering the crop. No auger on the pick up.
bigtractorpower Regardless, it still has the fork stuffing hay into the chamber. I think that folding action is what makes such tight bales from a John Deere baler. We had a New Holland baler and had trouble getting the stacks to stand. My uncle's John Deere baler made bales that were like bricks. The stacks stood perfectly!
It would be neat to do a bale comparison of the John Deere, New Holland and Hesston bales. Here in WKY the New Holland’s is what everyone runs. I have not found a Deere anywhere. Where I grew up in New York all you see is John Deere balers.
@@bigtractorpower Here in Kansas we primarily have JD or new Holland small square bales. I ran a JD 348 string tie for many years and it worked great but I recently started running an inline Hesston 4590 and never looked back. It will eat hay and walk away from any other small square balers. It's nice to put the "green" help on it because all they have to do is startle the row and go.
Great vid - thank you kindly!
Another brilliant video, regarding the New Holland bale collector ,from my point of view, it may have been more efficient had they set down the bales there, that way he or she could go and collect more while the flat 8 loader was loading the truck. Kevin London Taxi driver.
Damn! I remember all the summers I spent baling hay and straw, and all by hand, the collector and stacker would have been so nice. I'm wondering how they handle putting up in the hey mow, we did it with a large fork pulled up by tractor and then hand stacked . but we were young and dumb, got paid very little(1965) by today's standards, but had allot of fun.
My first job was stacking hay in a barn off kick bale wagons. These automatic bale wagons normally just drive in the barn drop the 160 bale stack and roll out. The farm can stack a second tier of bales using the loader tractor.
Wish i had 1 of Those stack cruiser growing up because those square alfalfa bales never get lighter over a 30 acre field. Thanks
The automatic bale wagons make it much easier for sure.
Nice video! Love making hay. I farm row crops and hay here in Kansas, but prefer the making hay
I always like the smell of the fresh cut hay.
Gotta like Case.
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Finally some Case... long live the old whites
It was fun to find a bunch of Case tractors working together.
Amazing process.
Lots of machines involved.
Nice video. I've never seen a loader like that.
It is a neat process. Thank you for watching.
The quarter turn chute off the baler did not work so well for us on the side of a butte 500ft high. They all rolled down hill the first season lol. So the next year we had to harvest and bale going up and down the hill.,We could not us a truck or bale stacker as they tipped over when they tried to turn when mostly loaded! It was a circus until we just started at the top and loaded down hill and then hit flat ground and could just use a trailer to haul them down to the flat area and transfer to the trucks.lol it was interesting and fun but expensive lol,
awesome video!
wonderful video
Glad you liked it. Thank you for watching.
Those old cases still doing their job well. Have an 870 power shift.thats the way to handle hay.
Very cool on the 870. The 770 and 870 are on the rare side. Is yours open station or does it have a cab?
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Curious if someone may answer this: Years ago we used to do custom cut, raking, baling and hauling here in Fresno, Ca. We had a NH-290 and NH-500 3 wire baler as well as the NH-1075 Harrow Bed. My question is this, I notice most if not all small bales produced in the mid-west going east are 2 wire. Does anyone put up 3 wire bales? Also, is the 1069 bale Wagon designation specifically for the 2 wire?
It's been a long time since i've driven a Harrow Bed or cut hay...but I sure do miss it. There is not a better aroma than a freshly swathed hay field....except maybe a rare rain storm on dry dirt in the summer time. Or the smell of corn silage in the stack on a winters evening.
I think wire bales and three wires is a South Western process. The farms here in Kentucky and where I grew up in New York run two string twin. The 1069 can collect 14x18 and 16x18 bales.
Thanks for the info. Really helps noobs like me understand why and how stuff works.
Glad you found it informative.
They run faster than that. My best friend in North Carolina bought one in Kansas an drive it home!
I go by the brochure specs from the company to keep the facts standard. I know someone who got a speeding ticket in a 1069.
The 770 looks bigger than 56hp to me from a distance. I know a JD 2630 was 70hp and it was a utility tractor that looked about the same size or marginally smaller, but I guess it is what spins off the drive train that counts.
The 770 does look bigger. I had to triple check that 56 rating.
Nice video!
Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video 👌
Glad you liked it. Thank you for the comment and for watching.
I still find hay wagons to be the most efficient way of getting small bales out of the field. You missed the best part of that hay wagon when it auto ties and it shoots the spikes up and kicks the middle of the three bales off and turns the two outer bales perpendicular to the other bales. New holland's finest piece of engineering.
I will have to try to film that some time. They are cool machines.
Super wierd seeing a bale wagon and a bale fork in the same field. We never got bale wagons and instead had bale accumulators behind our balers that left the bales in 8 packs which we would pick up with a fork like you see at the end.
Bale accumulators were the main way to haul hay until bale wagons replaced them, so really weird seeing them in the same field.
It was an interesting combo. I have a video on a Kuhn accumulator in the works.
bigtractorpower I've never seen a kuhn accumulator. We had Farmhand accumulators. Some nights they worked great, others not so we'll (kind of like baler knotters).
The accumulators had one nice feature, out here in the west we bale hay at night until the dew gets too heavy making the hay too wet to bale. When that happened the bales were too heavy for the accumulators to push off. So we'd bale till that point and quit for the night.
that looks like fun
I enjoy it when I get to see several machines in one field like this.
Pull type new Holland 1033 bale wagon and grapples on skid loader is the way l do it .cool video
Very cool.
Could you ask people what they think about their tractors and how they compare to other similar equipment they tried ... which is better,.. case quad or john deere ?
I will try to do some farming interviews. Most of the time the farmer is pretty busy so it’s hard to get an interview.
Very cool
It is a bunch of neat machines.
Neat video. Just curious, but that would have to be one heck of an operator to load 160 bales in 5 minutes a stated in the video. The bales are close together, but I think 5 minutes is a little optimistic ;) Having run a pull type 1033 New Holland bale wagon for years I'd be hard pressed to fill it with 103(with stack tied) in under 20. Enjoyed the video though
I based the time on filming the bale wagon on several fills in the field. I just watch the minutes recorded on the camera. In this field 5 minutes was the average. It had a hiccup here in there where it stopped to reset a bale on the feeding chain. Over all it was 5 minutes. When I am filming I find it helpful to film an entire loop to get an idea of what a machine can do weather it’s a Forage Harvester, combine or bale wagon. The time stamp makes a good log. The pull type bale wagons are neat. I need to get one filmed.
Thanks man.
You are welcome.
Really not sure if NH still makes the bale wagons any more, haven't seen any at my local dealership for over 10 yrs or more. Then again, most farmers around here have switched to round/big square bales too or, simply made their own version of bale wagon. Cheers :)
Yes they still make automatic bale wagon. It is called the H9870 now. I would like to feature a new one at some point.
They also make one that grabs big bales.
That is so damn cool !!!
Anyone else think it was weird that they have a 100+ hp tractor pulling the rake and only a 50 hp tractor on the baler? We used to run a baler that size with a International 3688 which is 125 PTO hp. (3688 was a total POS BTW)
The 770 runs a wheel rake too. They unhooked the 770 from the second rake to run the baler because the air conditioning in the 1070 is not working. Better to be in the open air on the 770 than in a hot cab on the 1070.
Does New Holland still make the bale wagons
Yes they do. It is H9870 now. Basically the same machine as the 1069.
I live like three hours away from NewHolland PA
Very cool.
I’ve went past it like twice a lot of hay tools out back
How many bales on that trailer?
I am confused why not pick the bales at this point with the tractor mounted grapel and eliminate the bale wagon
The tractor with the loader would be running all over the field. The stack wagon moves much faster. Normally they would just drive the stack wagon right to the barn and empty it in the stack.
Two words for when they load that trailer off the stacker, Hay Squeeze.
I grew up farming in the 80's... never saw a stack cruiser that I remember. Most bigger farms back then used throwers and catcher wagons.
Curious, why doesn't the hay wagon dump that stack and keep going, rather than wait for the tractor to pull them all off to load on the trailer?
This is a neat operation, but I'd want to compare the efficiencies and costs to running an accumulator.
Great video!
I remember kick balers and throwers well. Where I grew up in Ny these 1069 bale wagons replaced all the local kick balers and wagons. They did not completely unload the 1069 in the video because the field is on a hill so there was no level place to start a stack.
bigtractorpower Ah, didn't notice the grade in the video, makes sense. Thanks
What kind of hay grapple do they have?
I am not sure. I did not see a decal on it.
very cool. :)
Do them bale wagons have airbrakes?
That is a good question. I do not know for sure but I have not heard air brakes on the ones I have filmed.
bigtractorpower Thanks anyways.
If my memory serves correctly, the NH bale wagons were hyd brakes just like on a car. There are different makes of bale wagons, many farmer made that do have air brakes so, it really depends on what you find out there. :)
Ham68 Thanks Ham
What is the lift capacity on a 770?
I am not sure.
I bet your about 70 miles from me. If your down on the horse farm country. I'm east of you. Ever hear of the Rankin farms ? Theyr right up from me a mile or so
This was filmed on 41A in Hopkinsville, KY.
Do you know why they call it the Harobed? I believe the inventor's daughter was named Deborah.
Why on earth do they not just dump the whole stack in the corner of the field and have the tractor load the trailer whilst the bale accumulator is back out picking up again??would be far more efficient......
Really !
A full height stack often looses the rear/upper bales when push off the first load. I was watching to see if it all came tumbling down--they cheated and unloaded right from the harobed with the bale grabber.
that was another great video wow ford 460 power for the hay wagon bet that thing isn't thirsty or nothing
They need to buy a semi with a 53 foot drop deck flatbed semi trailer
The huge issue is that all this equipment cost close to $1 million together and that makes the farmer deep in debt to the banks.
The equipment in this video is all over 45 years old minus the Hesston rake which is 20 years old and the New Holland Baler is 5 years old. If it was all new machines yes there would be a big investment here but the tractors are probably worth $5-$8,000.
I am shopping for this equipment for few yrs and I know the prices on used ones.
Not my money's, not my circus...
But.. we run stack cruisers up and down the highway all the time....
If we are going to be loading trucks out of the field, we stack it.. that's what the machine is made to do. (We have been known to load a stacker with a grapple before )
Generally, one would park a little closer to the truck too... Save a little time..
Good video though!! Thanks!!
Yes it was! But he was to tight to pay for someone to haul it home! Only problem was he lost a waterpump
Shipping sure can add to the price.
I love the automatic bale wagon but I think it is a waste of time other then saving on man power. We always had enough help on the farm and we would load 80 bales a wagon then put 4 wagons together and drive 5 miles to the barn and unload them in the barn all by good old man power. Seems like your touching the same bales a lot of times to get them to the barn.
Just my opinion Great video though.
I think they've gotten their investment out of those units.
The farm likes Case tractors. They actively search for them to buy and use.
Wish I could source second hand equipment for my small hay operation. Labour intensive hay operations steal all the profits.
There are allot of used automatic bale wagons out there. Here are a few on tractor house @ www.tractorhouse.com/listings/new-holland-bale-accumulators-movers-for-sale-in-nebraska/?categoryid=1151&country=usa&eventtype=for-sale&manufacturer=new+holland&state=nebraska
Bales 18,000 bale per year, all by hand in the late 80s, don't miss that at all
That is allot of work.