Chalumeau Concerto in B-Flat Major FWV L:B1 By Johann Friedrich Fasch (with Score)
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Honestly, the piece is really nice, but...
WHAT THE HELL IS THE SCORE!!!!
It really looks like the copyists are just kind of ignored this, or it's not violins or violas LOL
Violin 1,2 for an Alto Clef, Violin 2 and Viola for a Bass Clef?????
Seriously???
Kind of cringed, really LOL
Hope you enjoy this cringe.
Changing clefs looks weird today, but at the time it was common practice, if the range was always too low or to high. Keyboard works were usually written in soprano C clef.
In this case it's too low LOL
@@SisselOnline The bass clef measures in Violin 2 could be just a cue of the Continuo part, misiunterstood by the copyst.
Probably LOL
In that case he has moved the basso part to the viola, and the violin is doubling in unison; sounding an octave higher.
Vivaldi has done this before, when the violins and violas play in unison with the bass; he puts a bass clef in the manuscript but then leaves the part blank, saying: the part is in the bass. The copyists probably transpose it to the right octave though.
Mmmmm still the copyist expects the player to play equivalent of those passage....
Hey, I'm the engraver of this score. Just wanted to say I made this score a few years ago at the age of 12 and that's why it has so many mistakes. I remember copying from parts in the manuscript, because there wasn't a complete score. All the weird clefs though are from the original manuscript, I didn't change anything
The bass clefs on treble
instruments are supposed to be played an octave higher according to common practice from that time
Interesting... (Also so cool that you can typeset it in just 12yo!)
@@SisselOnline well, it's just copying notes from a manuscript... But still it's an interesting exercise
An interesting question is what exactly the composer meant by "violetta".
I looked it up and Wikipedia says it's either a 16th century 3 stringed bowed instrument or a generic term used in later times for middle sized tenor to high bass instruments.
So what instrument would the musicians of the period recognize as the violetta?
Viola di spalla? Viola pomposa? Something else entirely?
I think they have different definitions/meanings on whether type of violins are used on different court xD
It's most likely a viola da bracchio. Telemann's concerto for two violette is never done on anything other than a standard viola, and the part writing doesn't suggest (here or elsewhere) a four string instrument tuned in anything other than fifths
@@sameash3153 Never heard of it owo
Knowledge +100
My guess for the wrong clefs was somebody used a copy/paste tool after putting in the music in the wrong stave, then forgot to change the clef.
Nah.
If you check the manuscripts, you will find that both of 2 manuscripts, copied by different people, wrote alto and bass clef in violin 1, 2 and viola (violetta) part score
Faschinating
Yeah, I'm so LOL
Is this "me" concerto? 😂
Definitely yes 😆😏
@@SisselOnline😆
By the way, who drew your profile picture?
@@ChalumeauLOL Am_Suutsu_acc in Twitter, PG required tho lol
I'm kinda bothered by the separate harpsichord line as it could've been just lumped in with the continuo but otherwise it's a nicely made score.
Well good question, idk xD
Low Bb for oboes. Not the original score
Well
It's engraved score, taking resources from manuscripts lol
Ofc it's not "original"
@@SisselOnline Guess original has no oboes at this point or they are in 8ve, Is it a chalmeua or an extremely high clarinet playing is chalemaeu regester
No one knows. Every manuscripts online is done by copyists, not the composer.
However both of them have written the oboe like that, same as to the viola (violetta) and violin 2
@@SisselOnline Sorry, no. The lowest note was middle C even if it was wise to write lower
Well, whatever xD
I'm not the one who typeset this.