Thanks for the video; I love to see comparisons like this. All other factors aside, I thought the Puchner's high E sounded noticeably different, in a good way. At any rate, great playing.
the Heckel sounds the best out of the 3 instruments and seems the most consistent throughout the whole range of the instrument. I think the Walter was the next best and the Puchner was definitely the worst out of the three.
Actually good playing for him. I would agree with lot of the comments here that he sounds best on his heckel. But what would like to say is, that everyone sounds different on different instruments espacially if you are not used to play on one of them. For me it is no surprise that he is sounding the best on his heckel, because it is his own instrument. Heckel is a great brand but it is very hard to get a new one. The price is high and the waiting list is to long. You will not sound good on an instrument that you are able to buy. Try bassoons. Everyone is different there are so many good brands out there.
Beyond the subjective sound differences which are mitigated by UA-cam's compression engine anyway, I'm most curious about your experience playing these instruments. Of course assuming that all instruments are different, they are not played the same amount and therefore are in different conditions, and your personal comfort with your instrument aside.... The Walter seemed the heaviest, but the Puchner surprised me here. Your 10k sounded more even than the other two, but the others had more low color in their sound. A toss up, perhaps, depending on the hall and ensemble.
Good point! A lot of the differences between instruments is not so much its intrinsic "sound", but the confidence and response it gives the player, allowing him/her to be their best. One of the things that's been happening with bassoons over the past few decades is that the walls of the instrument are getting thicker, making the instrument more resistant. It is in overcoming this resistance that many players feel they can develop better response. A beginner may find a 7000 series Heckel easier to play than a 14000 series, but orchestral players tend to favor the later series.
@@gregfaris6959 That has definitely been the case through time with Heckel up to (I may quote the wrong exact number, but it's around this) 13k, but supposedly the latest 16ks are finally lightening up. Bell makes an incredible, light, very facile instrument, especially his thin wall model.
Of course you sound most comfortable on the Heckel but I assumed I would like the Puchner over the Walter, which definitely is not the case. There were even a few moments when it seemed like the Walter performed better than the Heckel. The Walter seems to enjoy a solid combination of response, roundness/characteristic tone, and clarity.
Walter has best intonation here especially second last solo highest register also rounded sound and all notes are same open, bright and rich sound. Puchner is the worst one here.
I think a Puchner model 6000/ superior. Because I don’t see the link from the Ab/Bb trill to the Bb lever. And I think Walter only makes one model. If it were a Kronwalt I think he would’ve specified.
Puchner is better, fatter, for me. It is a matter of taste, the way the player plays, adjusts the bassoon to himself or adapts himself to the bassoon. I tried a couple of Heckels, old and new and was always negatively suprised how ordinary they play. I always found Puchner and Moosmann better. Especially for the insane price and waiting list of Heckel bassoons... For that amount of time and money, the bassoon should play itself, I just have to look at it and voila!
to my ears & taste I like the Heckel and Walter the most.
Thanks for the video; I love to see comparisons like this. All other factors aside, I thought the Puchner's high E sounded noticeably different, in a good way. At any rate, great playing.
They all sound amazing played by you, Kris!
Always very interesting. Can you include a Yamaha? I believe principals of BPO and Concertgebouw have played on them.
the Heckel sounds the best out of the 3 instruments and seems the most consistent throughout the whole range of the instrument. I think the Walter was the next best and the Puchner was definitely the worst out of the three.
you gonna tease us just leaving that contra sitting there?
Is the intonation of the puchner a little bit flatter then the others instruments?
Can you compare a moosmann with some of these, Please !🙂
Actually good playing for him. I would agree with lot of the comments here that he sounds best on his heckel. But what would like to say is, that everyone sounds different on different instruments espacially if you are not used to play on one of them. For me it is no surprise that he is sounding the best on his heckel, because it is his own instrument. Heckel is a great brand but it is very hard to get a new one. The price is high and the waiting list is to long. You will not sound good on an instrument that you are able to buy. Try bassoons. Everyone is different there are so many good brands out there.
I liked the second best.😊
Me too. The Heckel was actually my least favorite. Do I officially have poor taste now?
it’s sad to see you not post as much anymore ;(
Does anyone know what song that is around the 1:40 marker? I find myself humming it.
Overture to Tannhauser
The Walter sounds like a 7 heckel
Beyond the subjective sound differences which are mitigated by UA-cam's compression engine anyway, I'm most curious about your experience playing these instruments. Of course assuming that all instruments are different, they are not played the same amount and therefore are in different conditions, and your personal comfort with your instrument aside....
The Walter seemed the heaviest, but the Puchner surprised me here. Your 10k sounded more even than the other two, but the others had more low color in their sound. A toss up, perhaps, depending on the hall and ensemble.
Good point! A lot of the differences between instruments is not so much its intrinsic "sound", but the confidence and response it gives the player, allowing him/her to be their best.
One of the things that's been happening with bassoons over the past few decades is that the walls of the instrument are getting thicker, making the instrument more resistant. It is in overcoming this resistance that many players feel they can develop better response. A beginner may find a 7000 series Heckel easier to play than a 14000 series, but orchestral players tend to favor the later series.
@@gregfaris6959 That has definitely been the case through time with Heckel up to (I may quote the wrong exact number, but it's around this) 13k, but supposedly the latest 16ks are finally lightening up. Bell makes an incredible, light, very facile instrument, especially his thin wall model.
Of course you sound most comfortable on the Heckel but I assumed I would like the Puchner over the Walter, which definitely is not the case. There were even a few moments when it seemed like the Walter performed better than the Heckel. The Walter seems to enjoy a solid combination of response, roundness/characteristic tone, and clarity.
heckel is the best
Walter has best intonation here especially second last solo highest register also rounded sound and all notes are same open, bright and rich sound. Puchner is the worst one here.
But too heavy oder? also to play a little
Sorry to ask but where was the excerpt from at @4:16 ? Great playing!
Berlioz Symphonie fantastique 4th movement
please add a Fox....
What models of Püchner and Walter?
I think a Puchner model 6000/ superior. Because I don’t see the link from the Ab/Bb trill to the Bb lever. And I think Walter only makes one model. If it were a Kronwalt I think he would’ve specified.
Und das Ding da ganz rechts?????
0:01
0:26
Puchner is better, fatter, for me. It is a matter of taste, the way the player plays, adjusts the bassoon to himself or adapts himself to the bassoon. I tried a couple of Heckels, old and new and was always negatively suprised how ordinary they play. I always found Puchner and Moosmann better. Especially for the insane price and waiting list of Heckel bassoons... For that amount of time and money, the bassoon should play itself, I just have to look at it and voila!
The contraforte he catches up to the high fa?
For $35k they seem kinda off in the highs
Ich spiele nicht Gagott, aber der Puchner wäre mein Favorit
The Püchner sound low in intonation
Puchner, Walter, then the Heckel.
Heckel still the king
Pucner superior is the best !
Difinitivamente heckel superior pero el walter no se queda atras ! Puchner como simpre y su sonido opaco