"I'm too much of a good person" I fucking despise that woman. Like, with everyone else I know it's malice, but with Finana I genuinely don't know if she's also malicious or just completely tone deaf and idiotic
It's a meaningless phrase! Why would a good person feel bad for being a good person? actually the true meaning of this phrase is: "I hate having to pretend to be a good person sometimes."
Niji members were also saying they just gave Selen advice, but somehow the whole of the internet decided to claim it was harassment with 0 evidence. "When we do it, it's fair criticism, when they do it, it's harassment". Choose one or the other. Either both are harassment, or both are not.
I may be wrong but I had the impression that it was a variable unit of measure. That you need to look for the ccv of one of her streams in the same period of time to the streamer(s) you are going to compare and that is the value of "finana" for that specific comparison.
I love how forced the niji tweets are. "Oops, Finana is under fire. ANYWAYS Here's a thread of love to Finana, completely unrelated." Like, I get it but seeing how it's something they do time and time again, there's a point where I start doubting if it's actual support to a friend or if it's just management using their voices for yet another time.
I just find it funny that the Silver Medal for "Most hated Niji" is trying to deflect for the Bronze Medal as if that isn't going to make the whole situation that much worse.
@@KonpikoponI think we can tell by now who is forced and who does it on their own accord. With research and digging you can find out who to like and who do dislike.
I've never seen any other vtuber Company Members do that, nor any Company whatsoever for that matter. And you know why? Cuz it's corny and kinda cynical/self-aware and self serving. I Wonder If they'll ever notice that and stop making a fool of themselves cuz It doesn't look good [asking people for positive messages that is]
My favorite part about that incident was that she never apologized for calling a beloved gender non-conforming community transphobic, instead apologizing for banning a word that could be used in different contexts. That is, she never educated herself, and considering it's such a fringe viewpoint that she lectured others on so condescendingly, I doubt she'd be able to internalize her mistake anyways
@@enoki_suki Basically a lot of the things Zaion got terminated for Finana had already done. I can't remember exactly, but I think she made similar dark jokes like Zaion did. There was a whole list of things she had done, not sure if its still floating around.
Finana sounds so disingenuous, she is super vague making comments like "She gaslighted me" and "I'm a really good person" who even says that, no good person does that, that's like yelling "Disappointment" when trying to fake being disappointed.
@@command_unit7792 Still dont think a person that is genuinely hurt would go and talk about such events, unless triggered. Most people try to avoid these depressing memories and bury them deep. Even more, she's literally badmouthing someone on the internet in an attempt to gain a moral high ground, which just gives off an "I'm going to use chat to spread and normalize looking down on this person" vibe
@@command_unit7792Given everything that's happened with Doki, and the fact that it sounds like what the talents were shown in the documents from her by their managers (who shouldn't have shown them the documents in the first place) doesn't seem to match what Doki said was in there, it honestly wouldn't be surprising to me in the slightest if Niji's management straight up lies to their talents in an attempt to make them feel like only the management can help them, when said management is the one driving knives into their backs.
@@terrancecorey9859for all we know, this is her way of coping. Not saying she's right to do it, but nobody's in a good state of mind to make rational decisions when something like that happens, least of all if you're in Nijisanji.
Fun fact: While Millie describes Finana as having a "siren-like" voice, the songs sirens sing are meant to lure seafarers to their deaths. One could say that a yacht is a suitable vessel for seafaring.
I'll be honest, I never met a person in my entire life, that says something like *"I'm a nice person"* or *"I like to give the benefit of the doubt"* and not have that person be manipulative or asshole. *Not saying she is, I just never met one*
Not even one real nice person will ever say that "they are a nice person" to begin with 😭 most of them are so humble that they'll most likely say "I'm just doing what a normal person would do" etc etc
There's a reason you haven't met someone like that, it's non-existent. There's not a person that's self aware of such things unless they suffer from any obsessive condition that makes it relatively easy to spot.
@@atk9989The "I try to be a nice person" is a person admitting that they arent as good as they show themselves to be, but are putting effort into being someone better than themselves.
Like Finana blocking someone over giving advise and telling us to educate ourselves? Wow unbelievable.Millie stepping in? No surprise really. Like it really confirms Millie who she is as a person.
@@KureijiOllieZomerade and later on bootlicking for niji and saying they're not a black company... like good job millie you proved you have no integrity
I mean, I won't defend that Finana is a particularly good person or anything, but that reply she received was completely uncalled for. So it makes perfect sense to block a person that's giving you such backhanded comments.
The evolution of that clip's comments has been wild. When it came out, all the comments were in support of Finana and talking about what a dipshit Zaion was and how sorry they were for Finana. Then when Sayu first released her "friend's" response, it went to like a 50/50 ratio of people being pissed at Finanna and defending her. And now after everything that has happened these past couple months or so, it is pretty much 99.999% people being absolutely livid at her.
In retrospect, during the situation (before the One Girl's Story document) I was on Zaoin's side, thinking that she probably was better as an indie, such as thinking that the controversial joke she made would probably be better received if she wasn't corpo. I also thought Finana misinterpreted Sayu's words as gaslighting as an honest mistake due to miscommunication. Now I'm still on Sayu's side, and Finana is no longer in my good graces after this information. She may be a good friend to Millie, but she is no longer a good person in my eyes. Seems I'm crossing off a name from my list of oshis, and people I wish to befriend in Operation Ω.
For real I saw this clip where zaion was backstabbed and people under the comments were like “just move on stop being it up” and now I watch it again and don’t see those comments again after the whole selen stuff happened
@@Keiken0 Yeah, that's what feels odd to me. They really did seem like close friends, otherwise a lot of things probably would have never happened. But now all of this is going on and... What should one make of it? If anything at all.
@@aureleavalon2897 People aren't perfect. All workplaces have drama at times, it's just not usually in the spotlight for everyone to see like in this kind of work. It all really depends on how you handle it and we can see that Hololive for what it's worth handles it a bit more professionally than Nijisanji has.
About kroni, probably not unrelated but in her PL she said some days ago how she was fed up with being nice and swallowing stuff and being quite about it and that now she was gonna speak up her mind more often. Later said something aling the lines that she indeed started doing it and feels a lot more cool with herself. Probably it's gonna leak out to Kroni's interactions as well
Definitely true! I understand that sometimes life sucks and we just want to vent out, but at the end day lashing out at her chat isn't the way to do it. Also before someone says something, yeah, I can see how keeping doing the same joke over and over after a year past is irritating and tirering or being horny all the time can be, but her model is, at the end of the day, sexy and err... equipped. Also she has afaik control over new designs so she could tame down the sexyness if she is bothered so much by the reactions. But above all, I think it's just a lot of things pilling up together at the same time: the jokes, her health, work stress and so on, or in other words, burnout. And it's completely normal. What is not is lashing out at people for "small things". But again, completely understandable albeit not recommended.
if this is what she's going for, honey that's a terrible way to shoot yourself in the foot. like fuck sake, she might as well take notes from nijisanji to make herself worse
Zaion was a mess at that time so what happened with Finanna might actually be Zaions fault 'technicly' but its the fault of the Nijisanji to begin with creating the whole situation...
On one hand I think Flipsie needs to chill the fuck out cause making a "KMS" joke on the internet is like ehhh why are we cancelling here, but on the other hand holy fuck that burn was *red hot* like sheeeshu
Like that comment said, i'm all for hating Niji after the Doki incident, but come on. Flipsie clearly knew that even a comment like that was gonna spread like wildfire and fan the flames "before something bigger happaened" my ass
its fair to cancel her for that, did you not hear the part of the video reminding about how she tried to cancel the word "trap" for famine men that look like women? and instead of justifying why its wrong used the elegant "Educate yourself" argument. No she is toxic and thinks because she has a "platform" as a certain political side likes to say that her feelings and being offended on other peoples behalf is important enough she has to say so. Even though her opinion is wrong anyway as plenty identify as "femboy" and being a "trap" is the peak of being a femboy. at least canceling her over "KMS" jokes is valid since 90% she was involved in driving 2 people to trying to "KMS".
Not a funny joke though, especially in context. I don't want to dogpile on Finana over this, looks like she was just trying to sound silly with some careless zoomer humor, but she's been a public figure on the internet now for years. She should know her words carry weight and need to be expressed very carefully.
I think Kronii needs a vacation. The subway thing and the booba thing, one or the other could be fine on their own but one right after the other kinda feels like she's getting stressed and losing patience. Little irrelevancies like those have been pretty common in the hololive fandom since the start, I mean we still see old memes about Korone's little engrish phrases and Gura's floaties or eating soggy pizza, refusing to let a joke die just kinda something the fandom does. Mind a request to stop it isn't entirely new, it's usually fairly rare since it kinda kills a bit of the mood like going to a friend's and then them getting upset about something fairly innocuous that's become a bit of a habit for you. One thing you can hold back on out of respect for their wishes, but if it happens again then it starts feeling a bit awkward and like you're walking on eggshells.
She’s definitely been under some level of stress, she had to fly to Poland pretty soon after her latest cover debut on pure business stuffs She seems to have vented hard on her PL in the last couple days… but she also says she feels a lot better after making her voice heard on these two matters, and the Kronies (myself included) are showering her with nothing but love on both current and PL accounts. It’s honestly a beautiful thing.
@@TheCrazyCapMaster As long as she gets the stress out it's good, should probably still take a bit of a break though if only to let this cool off since this is blood in the water for Antis.
You forgot her recent health issues.. i mean she had what 3 jaw surgeries in the last 18months, plus several stomach virus, covid infections, and final she lost a fucking RIB!! a Rib ! with no context added, idk how the hell that happened (maybe she donated part of her liver to a family member and they fucked up surgery and had to remove rib?? idk) Anyways i'd imagine all those health issues made her very cranky too
Dangggg not Millie glazing Niji members for the x amount of times. I applaud her efforts but we've seen Finana's true colors, you're not convining me to like her again
@@LunarStar1482 I don't watch her...anymore. I'm talking about Millie trying to paint Finana in a good light. People can have good qualities but be a bad apple, Finana is one of those. I'm not letting Millie sway me to thinking otherwise.
correct, i think u-san either tweeted about it or mentioned it on a stream, either one i don't remember, u-san "graduating" is what made me stop supporting niji all together, as yugo was my oshi,,
U San is going through several problems related to her gender, when he was drunk he could get depressed x1000 about how he wanted to be a man and couldn't. I think he was already having problems before.
@@maryam-nusa I don't know what it is, in a stream with yugoo he drank a lot of alcohol and said he wanted to be a man. he was born with a woman's body, it is full of videos of it On their official pages or some music event on UA-cam. The only thing I know is that her gender is a problem for her, today, I don't know if it's okay. Yugo left nijisanji because he had to stream certain hours per week and couldn't. Something like sana
Kronii's attitude has changed recently were things are setting her off. Maybe shes getting work fatigue and needs a break to recharge? This is just me guessing.
@@daisukeniwa402645 Well, it’s the daily life of all streamers. So I like Kronii and as much as I don’t mind that she asked people to stop making jokes about the Subway because she is not the only one to have done something like that and I can understand that is can be really annoying over the time, as much on this clip, I think that she really overreacted on this poor viewer for a really useless reason. She seems really edgy and particularly sensitive right now.
She doesn't have a man and She's at the Unsold Christmas Cake age. I've seen women do that a lot. Their fault though, ignoring the average guy who isn't Chad and Tyrone
The Kronni one kinda surprises me a little, like it just comes off as something you would expect from being an entertainer/streamer and having leaned into that audience. I find that alot of the time its just people wanting to goof off or wanting some kind of reaction/noticement from the streamer. Seems like something you could ignore altogether, or maybe ban words in chat? The only time I think it'd just be too inappropriate is something if they're talking about something concerning/intense where its like... ok no goofing off for this.
@@yrreberry1092 Could be just different energies mixing around then. Cause seen lotsa streamers doing supers all over the place and having a giddy time with it no problem. Maybe some people just come from different places and dont get the kind of etiquette that vtubers get like this.
is kronii ok? seems like she's getting really frustrated with her community. I'm not invalidating how she feels but considering the internet the more you bring something your not comfortable with the more people will poke.
That is true, however I said it on the clip channel where she talked about the subway thing, Khyo used it in the last video, but if people are going to be bringing it up more, that is a form of bullying and harassment
@@kenzor4953 I love them both. Can't fault Kronii for being annoyed tho. if you're gonna over use a joke to the point its no longer funny then yeah i dont fault her for being annoyed
Your not invalidating how she feels in that statement. Your being realistic. Same with the subway thing. Chat reflects the streamer. You can't have 10,000 clips where she is showing off her assets then be confused when people are looking at your assets.
To be honest, by adressing the subway and booba comments Kronii is making the situation worse. Pretty much every streamer and youtuber has a community that spams old jokes that are no longer funny to the streamer. There are usually two ways to these jokes to die out and these ways are ingnoring the coments that make these jokes or by giving the community something new to meme about.
For those unfamiliar with lady-speak: the angriest Kronii got during that clip was that forced chuckle at someone mentioning that she's been in a bad mood. Few things in this world make women angrier than pointing out they're in a bad mood when they are already in a bad mood. They see it almost as a challenge. Main reason she dialed back was because she's an employee and has to keep people entertained, and I respect the hustle.
@@Geheimnis-c2e Well its even worse if she isnt on her "bleeding month" she chose to be a b*tch over a simple comment she couldve ignored or timed out, it seems like she wants to lash out for whatever reason
@@Deathwing21 are you 12? period time jokes are the lamest. to make it even worse, i keep seeing you make the same joke on other comments. over and over. so not only is the bad joke not funny, and offensive. you keep using it like you think you are a comedic mastermind picking the gold tier joke from your noggin like a booger.
@@Deathwing21 dude grab a paper and pencil and think of something original rather than spam the same joke over and over again here's my rhetorical question: why do memes die?
People still make Kanata gorilla jokes, Fubuki cat jokes, and Subaru duck jokes despite those being really old. Coming from the OneyPlays and Game Grumps community I know all about an audience just not letting a joke die regardless of how they started and that same crowd still says the same jokes even to this day. Look at the Brad's Wife Cracker Barrel meme to see just how long a crowd of people will try to keep a joke going.
I mean i feel like ya gotta pay attention to where the joke is going. Subaru for example *FULLY* leaned into the duck identity but Kronii's been trying to ignore what are quite frankly dead horses for some time. idk, just got a different vibe i guess.
@@KippyoftheMud She's been trying but it's not going to happen because it's still the most memorable thing she's done. If she wants people to forget about it she needs to make more memories not tell people to stop bringing up the ones they have. I also don't think she should be telling people to stop mentioning booba, those people are the most easily entertained low effort viewers any vtuber's going to get. She's better off taking their money and ignoring their comments than telling them to stop and risk other people leaving because "she has a temper".
@@KippyoftheMud I only mean to say that a large amount of people can keep a joke going endlessly and there's nothing a content creator can really do to stop it.
If we're talking realistically, Kronii is only going to cause a streisand effect. Rather than pointing out 1 comment out of 50, she should just ignore it. Yes, it's disrespectful, but that's the life of a vtuber. Vtuber models are supposed to look aesthetically pleasing, so she should expect atleast this much. If anything, her community is pretty tamed compared to others.
Kronii seems like she needs a break, one snap at chat is weird, two snaps at chat in a short span of time, when she wasn't previously known to be so irritable, is starting to indicate she *might* be having some kind of emotional breakdown.
I can understand Kronii's frustration, there's a time and place for everything. And if she doesn't want people to discuss certain things during a stream, people should respect that. BUT, if she's reading super chats, why look at chat? Why not just read the super chats and ignore regular chat? She can just pretend she didn't see the booba comments since the point is to read super chat (not regular chat). Also her outfit isn't really seiso; it's kinda skin tight around the chest area, there's a window, and there's jiggle physiques. It's not surprising why people would bring up booba. I say both parties are at fault. Chat should've stopped when she said to stop, and Kronii should've just ignored the booba comments. That's just my opinion.
@@BlueLoveYT Because that's the appealing of her model... For real imagine Kson somehow starts get annoyed by the MF jokes... Kronii is not making any sense.
@@kyletucker3811 Her outfit was literally designed to look like that, she knows what she was getting into. But what do we expect, Vtubing survives off of getting orbiters to throw money at 3D rigged drawings. Makes sense that ancient rome equated actors and performers to a step above prostitutes.
There was no follow up from chat, just one guy, one singular comment, and no one joined in, yet she got worked out this hard. It's 100% her fault, she might be stressed out in her personal life, but she needs to control herself, especially with such a small issue
It's the Internet, it's hard to monitor everything and set boundaries. Kronii had problems with her chat since her debut, but she needs to set some rules.
I don't know why this is being clipped and discussed? This is an issue with her and her chat. It should be discussed there. Why are you talking to me about it? I don't even like Kroni. Kroni can yell at her chat all she wants. I don't care.
@@Jordan-RamsesApparently having boundaries is being a Karen. Weird I thought Karen's were people who didn't respect boundaries and insisted on seeing rhe manager.
Kroni doesn't like Subway jokes? My dear kroni, my friend in God, you are the one who came out with this joke, how do you expect new people that know you only for clips know that one of the very reasons they picked up interest in you now brothers you? Also is better just to ignore the boobs comment I mean the model really puts emphasis on that part
Kronii has been under stress because of personal life stuff recently so in the last sc reading stream she was venting a little bit. i think its good that she address the subway joke problem because its been troubling her for a long while now
@@LCJammer Just because she have big boobs doesn't mean people can bring it into every conversation, especially if it's not the topic. It just gets annoying and unnecessary
@@LCJammer i thinks she know that there will always be someone talking about her booba but iirc this is her first time addressing it on stream. and maybe because she was talking about being more transparent with her audience about what have been troubling her as well.
Funny how millie says "and she entertained all my shenanigans", this could be interpreted into a lot of things, some of which like a queen B of the school got her posse to be ok with all her shenanigans like being a bully to new girl or something Can someone ask millie what if someone doesn't entertain her shenanigans but still in her workplace, does she/he not be considered as friends or colleague?
I sort of get Kronii's frustration but the response sounded a bit overly tilted, no? Kind of feels like everyone just minding their business got reprimanded when it looks like she got 1 guy'd by a tourist. It's good to lay down ground rules and communicate things that upset you, but the "listen to me read SC's or get out" sounded kind of harsh.
Was a bit wired. Especially the actual insult. most people i see uncontrollably down horrendous for big boobs aren’t even straight guys. it’s OTHER female vtubers. so assuming it’s a guy being a creep kind of annoys meh ngl.
@@hayatojin2886 I don't watch Kronii too often, but if that's true I can see why that would be annoying. There are genuinely some good streamers that for some reason or another their chats are super down bad and simp like and it's just too cringe to watch with the chat open. But chatting is part of the experience otherwise I would just watch a VOD or clip so I end up not watching those streamers.
Slightly off topic, but it has similar energy when someone is violently against shota and loli content. But then said person is the one you gotta keep an eye out for when near a child.
I get the subway joke is funny but it’s long gone now and should stay as a memory of an arc from 2022, there is a lot to know about Kronii and pointing out Kronii’s booba is uncomfortable to the person being talked to
She's a vtuber, there are no booba on display, it's an animated drawing, the same standards of what is or isn't creepy don't apply. Also, we know they have considerable creative control over their avatar's outfits, she chose this.
I still get recommended clips and shorts from 2022 and older, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's why people still bring it up. Especially new viewers.
@@DarkFenix2k5no she didnt. Havin a pretty avatar isnt a blanket permission to harrass someone. It takes a level of entitlement to think that its fine to say such things to someone just cause how they choose to look.
@@DarkFenix2k5it's not about having pretty model, it's about what they see you for, imagine if you are only seen to be just that, shit would get tiring fast, hell many where complaining about saying her booba size was nerf because it was hidden by the commander outfit, before she revealed the layers to satisfy and have them stfu
Not trying to be mean to kronii but having one or two people bring up the subway joke constantly should be ignored just so people don't get a reaction out of her, the same goes for the booba jokes. She should take a small break for her stress before it gets worse.
Kinda weird for kronii to say the booba thing was off-topic/distracting when half of her chat is just people spamming 3 emojis repeatedly. Like just pass over it like you pass over the emoji spam
It's really NijiEN that needs to shut down. JP is fine. The EN branch, as well as the ID branch, in the end became the failed experiments of a mainly Japanese VTuber agency. If you ask me, they favor their original JP branch more, and are xenophobic to the point of apathy and neglect. It's like a family of royalty focusing on the firstborn child with more noble blood, leaving only the bastard children to starve in the gutter.
yeah, that was such a overreaction to some comment that wasn’t as lewd or talking about boobs in such a lewd way that she overexagerated, in general THERE IS NO WAY you can police what people will say, does she wanna her chat to not maention boobs AT ALL unless SHE talks about it??? eh??? like what else out of no were are we supposed to not say when she thanks the chater for supas????
I'm starting to think that being a vtuber, or an internet personality in general, just isn't suited to her considering such small and petty things like jokes and someone mentioning her chest is enough to set her off.
Or maybe she just feels disrespected when someone seemingly isn't paying attention to what she's talking about and just saying "booba", and the repetition of it happening over and over again is enough to make her want to set a boundary. Vtubers are people too who have feelings and preferences. This is most likely something that was always an issue to some degree but she just tried to ignore it and she's getting tired of trying to ignore it.
@@K-Sha1 ignore it? dude she encouraged it early on. if she legit hates it, then she shouldve just cut it off way early on. shiori in her early streams made jokes where it's about kiss your homies. literally wasnt long before she just said it there just drop it.
Not really sure if I'm off base at all, but Kroni seems really irritable in those clips. Like i understand being annoyed at people beating a dead horse, but you really need to roll with the punches on that type of stuff because regardless of how you spin it it'll still make you look kind of bad if you harp on it. Plus the boob rant was honestly unnecessary, she just seems bitter about something that's ultimately really innocuous overall.
Clearly, stuff is going on with Kronii behind the scenes. Even if she doesn't like it, or any of the vtubers don't like it, they usually have a pretty strong self-control to simply not say anything about it. The fact that she was legit getting peeved after a random booba comment, and then back peddled, and I mean back peddled HARD, as soon as she saw the "she has a bad temper nowadays" comment means, to me, that she's getting ... stressed, worn down, burnt out in a way to the point where she's forgetting that, you know, the booba are apart of that whole package she's selling and what brings in the dough. So she suddenly snaps and has to be reminded and reassure her audience that haha, yes, booba nice, we all love booba, haha, but later. Makes me worried that she might need to take another break, get whatever's going on in the background handled so she can be less stressed maybe.
Wow Kronii, she could've just ignored the comment but she decided to be fixated and rant about it for longer than necessary. Kinda exposed how she really sees the viewers lol
Hating Niji is completely valid, but ANYTHING that Flipsie says should not be taken seriously. Her ENTIRE personality online is hating Niji. Like literally if you go to her streams she barely even talks at all and just plays shooters. Incredibly uninteresting individual and is blatantly just trying to farm Niji hatred to get more followers. It's pathetic really.
I was with the clock about the subway but my God, if I am a new viewer the first thing I'm going to think is "Jesus Christ boobs" some people type it we see that with Zen we see it with milky milky actively plays into it that is pretty much her brand Zen plays into it often but I feel like it's unfair to Target that one person so harshly in that moment.
So you care more about a random chatter feelings then people spamming booba every five secs. Why you acting like the chatter a child that can't read the room.
While I don't want people to think I'm just being hateful, I do think that after much consideration and observation that this Kronii situation is for sure on her. Whether its due to stress or her default demeanor, I can't say but I do know that she essentially made things worse because she couldn't compose herself. The subway thing lives in infamy but I've only ever seen people talk about it now because of her addressing it as opposed to this constant thing she said was always cropping up in her chat. I've seen no one, nor her provide proof that the subway thing has gotten so out of hand that she needed to address this. And the whole booba thing is for sure on her as well. She likely chose the model, she played up the ribbon bit and has made subdued but lewd comments. Does that mean chat should spam booba everytime she breathes? Obviously not, but when she went off on that ONE guy who was apparently a first timer, you end up looking like a fool yourself with thin skin. I'm sorry but I have to fault her on this one because while I may not be in her chat, I would expect this issue to be bigger than "booba is irrelevant to the topic, single chatter so begone". If it was an issue of spam, then her call out would've been vastly different. She should've addressed it as a chat wide issue of spamming rather than single out one guy, a new guy at that, that she *chose* to pay attention to. There was no provocative supa and the dude wasn't spamming. She talked about time and place yet she failed to understand that she needed to do the same which is why people are now split on whether she was right or wrong in this situation. All in all, what she talked about are indeed issues but she handled it very poorly and people should have the right to point it out. Sorry but even if she is stressed, Kronii screwed up on this one
Good observation. An interesting way to see it. I don’t watch her much anymore haven’t liked how she gotten over the years, not saying she’s bad or anything like that I bet she’s a good person some of the other talents I watch like her and say nice things about her but I just never was into the attitude she gets from time to time and usually see her insulting or degrading chat whether that is bit or something else my bad there. But I just wish her to get some time off and clear her mind, to get things settle and not think too much about some random comments. I already some other stuff about this in another comment but I hope things don’t get worse for her.
I don't totally like how Kronii handled the comment... it would have been better to set some rules prior to streaming. And I am not sure what she meant by time and place... any topic can be discussed in a chat stream even if non-seiso. I wouldn't know when is the right time at all now unless it's a raunchy game like Bunny Garden. I understand her frustration and chat viewers may not respect some boundaries, but I still feel negative about her response.
Don't watch much Kronii, but seems like she could use a break (though which one of them couldn't?). Going off like this, even if it seems justified, only serves to feed the trolls. I see a lot of comments saying things like "people should change" or "respect her wishes", and sure, in an ideal world, that might work. This, however, is the internet. The only way to make something go away is to ignore it. If you don't respond to Subway or boob comments, people will eventually get bored of making them. As is, she's pouring gasoline on a non-situation.
Kronii also had a 3rd rant about how she doesn't like to stream unless her setup is perfect, that people will go in the comments and say "Hey are you in a tunnel?" or "Is she using a new mic?" and how she hated those comments. She went on about it for quite a while and with a lot of emotion. Girl needs some vacation. An entertainer like her shouldn't be losing her temper so often over trivial stuff that can happen to any vtuber.
They should've just not blocked and reacted and said anything, both Finana and Millie should not have responded, acknowledged or made any new posts or tweets about it. They are just literally shooting themselves in the foot. Just ignore and move on. Karma will serve.
Admittedly I don't watch a lot of streams, and Kronii has always struck me as a strong-willed person, but she's seemed especially tense as of late. Kind of hope she takes a vacation for herself, she seems like she really needs it
I do wonder if after the livers leaves for one reason or another they will adress... what they did, i do believe they are forced to be silent by the black company.
@@Wayward_Warlock Which is crazy cause when Kronii was arguably going through her worst, the cosmetic surgery, all her fans were patient with her and so was she. Now she’s getting pissy over jokes as if she doesn’t contribute to them.
@@HeyMarioapparently she’s going through some hard stuff irl so it definitely seems like a misplaced stress/anger. Hopefully she gets better/takes some time off for herself
@@HeyMario+ Hmmmm, no man. She gets surgery and still can't get man. She can get with one of her fans but women consider that for "settling for less". I see why she's stressed but she did that to herself. Especially with how arrogant she acts
I understand that maybe sometimes people are going to far with some jokes, but if the way Kronii addressed to that, if it was me, I'd just go away, never support and never support her again.
I get what Kronii is saying, but it was really the way she said it. It came off so condescending, even when she tried to be nicer about it. Not everyone has been a part of her community since the beginning, so she really needs to remember that to some people, the jokes and stuff might be the first time they've heard/seen them. Not saying she can't tell people not to make the jokes, just wish she would have been less angry and then condescending about it. As for the Finana situation, I'm with a lot of the others on this. Finana has felt very two-faced since the "educate yourself" and Zaion incidents. She comes of as a people pleaser that does whatever she needs to do to keep herself "safe" from management or the Twitter mob. Nothing she says or does comes off as genuine and that just really kills any interest I have in her content.
Is Kronii good? Does she need a vacation? Because why is she reading regular chat when she is supposed to be reading supas? Like calling out that one message when that outfit looks like her chest is filling out apple bottom jeans is a bit much.
Never watched Kronii before but she feels like a bit of an asshole. That guy didn't deserve a whole ribbing because he said booba instead of emote spam in chat. Like I hate the "you were distracting" excuse she gave. All seriousness it's your job as an entertainer to, get this, entertain, not go off on a tyrade because *you* got distracted.
I think that it's better to never talk or comment with Kronii or i cant breath...anything could be a "wrong moment" to her and i can't stand that pressure...
that poor new person to kroniis stream who probably just joined for the first time, saw big booba, commented on said booba, and got called out for it, and shamed being called a "prepubecent boy" like it goes both ways, ppl could not say booba, and she could just not acknowledge those commenters, i could see if every other comment said booba, but it was like one comment in the sea of comments from that clip.
Im not too sure on this, but if it's like twitch, first time chatters to a stream's messages get highlighted (i know some youtube streamers who have this, not sure if its an automatic thing though) on the streamers side, so its much easier to see. if this is the case for Kroni, it makes a lot more sense as to why she read it, and if it was a first time chatter, she was a little harsh imo.
i don't see anything wrong with that. i remember when coco used to deal with the booba jokes too and she gave it to them straight that they should just go to a porn site if they're going to be prepubescent.
I'm not talking about Kronii booba. But i will lament over the missing ribbon. I don't know, but it always felt like a vital part of her design, just like the feathers for Kiara. The Ribbon not being in other outfits makes it always look surreal.
Kronii forgot what and where she is. shes a vtuber using an anime avatar (with big assets) in an idol company from japan. That type of talk and behavior from chat and fans is par for the course. if she's not going to simply ignore the 'cake is a lie' repetition then update rules and block words. if not then perhaps going indie and using a platypus avatar would suffice.
Ok I'm just gonna say for the Kronii thing, the more you bring it up (especially the part where it bothers you) it's just gonna happen more imo. Honestly the best thing she can do is just either ignore it or just time people out for saying it (or ask mods to do it)
@@icedtohfuu9555 then she should just time em out at that point. IMO still feels like she's getting one guy'd tho. She might need a break if something like this causes enough irritation for a mention on stream
I do agree with this, tho I do kinda feel bad for her at times it can get frustrating to see the same joke over and over thrown constantly at you, I think Geega from Vshojo handles this sort of stuff in one of the best ways, her community spams an emote at the weird comments in chat and if the person keeps it up the mods ban or time them out it is great and it does filter out a lot of the weirdo's and trolls a good amount of the time, her community is super healthy and everyone is chill af including her.
Honestly it was the fact some random innane chatter got the flack for what is clearly unseen problems in her personal life. Like he did nothing to deserve that, being cringe is not enough to be deserving of that kind of treatment from someone they likely came to escape from their own personal problems
@@yohanenightingale7615Yeah exactly the job is to entertain people, make it into a joke, don't make it so heavy like that, it's always gonna be a horrible environment
When I first saw Finana's video about Sayu, I was a bit...... ticked off??? While I didn't know the whole situation and what went down, the fact that she stated things like hating being an overly nice person and got gaslighted because of it and tried to defend Sayu despite her better judgement, I felt a slight underlying sense of narcissism from her and it irritated me. And that was my first introduction (aside from Diamond City Lights) to Finana so I avoided her instantly, including collabs. Now, with her hypocritical "educate yourself" bull and the insensitive kms, I'm not surprised to see her in a bit of heat.
I can understand Kronii being frustrated, but this is the job she signed up for and I don't think the way she is going about addressing her chat is doing her any favors. Responding to people being annoying by getting upset always ends up making you look like a fool.
Kronii is really starting to lose it. I'm not sure if it's stresses from her personal life, but I wouldn't be surprised if she goes on extended break or has a meltdown on-stream soon.
So for Kronii I get that she doesn't appreciate the booba remarks which I agree are out line but to point out one commenter is a bit strange for a holomem. Before debut they learn how to deal with all those types of situations and to let herself get upset about one comment is a bit unprofessional, idk.
To be fair, Kronii could have just ignored the subway and booba comments. Her bringing it up is just gonna edge on some folks to make those comments. I mean, the internet has been open to the public for over 30 years now. How are there some people who still haven't mastered the art of ignoring? And do you really expect some folks aren't gonna make booba comments with the way her model looks? Please.
Most company don't teach staff/talent social media etiquette, which can help in dealing with situations like this. I can understand Kroni's frustration, but there are always better ways to handle that situation rather than lashing out.
i agree with you, there really no way to stop it when the chatter are saying it are first time viewer are seeing her first time, poeple forget no matter how hard you Addresses the first time viewer was not there when she was Addressing it was better ignored it, i think she stressed.
@@kyletucker3811 that's why you need an outlet to let out your negative feelings, preferably an outlet that doesn't involve venting out on other people
No hate to Kronii, but her calling out and insulting people for saying something she doesn’t like is never a good idea on the internet, no matter how right you are.
@@DimasNurrahman-zf4gb it’s always a good idea to take a break, especially when people’s comments start getting to you. However, if she is getting annoyed with certain things being said, rather than calling people out for it, she should enforce it as a rule and have her mods take care of it. By calling it out, she’s only going to keep noticing it and it’s going to bother her more and trolls are gonna troll.
@@Kiwaaka well, she should consult manager or her best friend to talking about it. It would be netter to keep healthy instead of Lashing out her anger on her viewer. Fortunately, some of viewers concern about her condition. But what about some viewer keep trolling on her? They'll change their oshi into someone else. That's why choose consult is better than feel annoyed and didn't do anything.
Seeing people in chat saying « I’m so sorry you went through that » when all that Finana said was « Zaion lied to me » makes me sad to look at it sometimes
You've all heard of "The Telephone Game" right? Its the game that gave us 'Jdon My Soul'. I'm pretty sure thats literally where 98% of the Finana Vs Zaion drama originates. Neither Zaion nor Finana ever actually spoke directly. All of their correspondence was done through management.
6 months ago, everyone was supportive of Dokibird. Everyone was anti bullying and demanding the industry change for better mental health. How quickly we forget. Driving people to deletion is rancid behaviour, no matter who you are.
@@poom323that's still no excuse. Some of the livers are still genuinely bad people. Elira, Vox, Luca, Uki, Wilson, Finana, just about everyone under that damned company is a walking red flag
She's probably the most liberal, leftist or progressive member of Nijisanji to be honest, she's like one of those trending girl gamers on twitch that are making drama's recently regarding voice chats and toxic male game space lobby..
To be fair, if you have that one friend in your social circle that keeps bringing the topic to one thing over and over again, even if you yourself enjoy that topic, it gets really annoying when it's forced on you all the time... Doesn't even have to be boobas, imagine you like mechanics and are reading about early automatic gun designs... and then that one friend finds out about it and keeps bringing up guns every time they see you, even if you were talking with 3rd person about something completely unrelated... Then multiply it by few hundreds - even if she tries to ignore it and it's not even that many people, it always hangs in chat, so I don't blame her for getting ticked off...
@@deSolAxeYeah but we are not talking about close friends here, we talking about a streamer-virwers relationship, she need to chill honestly, maybe she really needs a break she looks kinda sick of everything these last days. Her lastest comments even give me the vibe she doesn't like her Vtuber persona anymore and that's ok not everyone least for ever, she may should consider graduation even.
@@deSolAxe I have someone like that in my streams. Not many people watch me live but there's very often this guy who brings up a very lame monkey joke that was never funny.
I think Flipsie was out of line with that comment for sure. The tweet was so out of line and Finana has a right for to block flipsie. And this is someone who is a diehard sayu supporter
I'll be honest, I don't watch Kronii but she probably should let things roll off her back and ignore stupid crap in chat. Getting mad at a random chatter saying "booba" is pretty dumb. She has every right to set up whatever guidelines she wants in chat but if she starts getting upset at stupid little things repeatedly people are going to start to smell a new lolcow for milking. I think what this vtuber needs is a break from vtubing to recharge and get the crankiness worked out.
I'm all for hating on Niji but that comment just seems so out of nowhere. Finana's comment was not in a mean spirit at all. Flipsie is definitely in the wrong here. I'm glad to see Kronii standing up for herself and keeping control of her stream environment.
I don't understand VTubers who try to control what people talk about. You're an entertainer; people pay you money. Why do you care what people are chatting about?
For as much as I enjoy anime and its community, that's kinda how the community is, much to its dismay. I mean, some of the comments in this video alone are quite unfortunate. They're pretty dramatic over a little bit of boundary limiting.
I sure as hell don't, but even then i still think she could have handle it better, she just entertained those jokes like last month, and suddenly she have such a big reaction towards it, some audiences are just simply dumbfound by it, its one thing if she's already stated her dislike with the jokes and people still repeat it, but this is like her first time addressing it.
@@XtevenGan Agreed tbh but at the same time I feel like she could be under a bit of stress rn and its not a feesh-level moment so I'm willing to let it go lmao.
No matter how much you paint over, no matter how much you try. It will always paint into Black, and Millie is painting her like a Mishapen Painting Time to wake the sleepers. . .
@@quintonheimann s*xually harassed? Bro you and Kronii are in an urgent need of taking a break of this entire VTubing thing, you guys are taking it way too real... commenting on a f*ing 2D model, a f*ing drawing ffs, does not in any way, shape or form harasses the talent behind it. The separation between the model and the talent who moves it, is THE MAIN IDEA behind vtubing to begin with, people become VTubers to detach their real identity and self from being personalized...
lol "going to spread some positivity on your TL" is just code word for "let's just sweep this under the rug", like that one time BTS army tried to cover up their idol's car accident that they caused lmao.
Khyo is a fluffy rabbit
Now, pin me
"I hate that I'm a really nice person sometimes" said everyone who isn't actually a nice person
i mean i'll be the judge of that, not u
@@minhtinh1211I mean..tons of evidence and signs already shown she isn't. But you do you I guess?
Nice people don't exist. Only good actors.
"I'm too much of a good person"
I fucking despise that woman. Like, with everyone else I know it's malice, but with Finana I genuinely don't know if she's also malicious or just completely tone deaf and idiotic
It's a meaningless phrase!
Why would a good person feel bad for being a good person?
actually the true meaning of this phrase is:
"I hate having to pretend to be a good person sometimes."
Guys wake up, another Nijisanji talk/drama
please no i havent slept in months
Do you have any idea how little it narrows down
its 4:00 AM bro. can't it wait...................
Where's my popcorn? 🍿
@@JustJustKen Nah mf, wake your ass up 😂
Edit: If it's actually 4 am, then please sleep
"Doki said not to harass anyone" doesn't mean they are now permanently immune to criticism for being dumbasses
Yeah that reply was so stupid. Like this is advice, not harassment.
Some people think "legit criticism" somehow equals harassment, because they want to play victim.
If its not absolutely positive and affirmative its harassment for these people they can be as toxic as possible and celebrate it
Niji members were also saying they just gave Selen advice, but somehow the whole of the internet decided to claim it was harassment with 0 evidence. "When we do it, it's fair criticism, when they do it, it's harassment". Choose one or the other. Either both are harassment, or both are not.
It's not legit advice, it's a vtuber exploiting the suicide attempts of other vtubers to "own" someone else. It's fucking disgusting
Fun fact: Finana is used as a unit of measurement on the /vt/ boards for low viewers.
Is 1 finana 300ccv or 200ccv? I forget 😅
This is something i want to ask. How much does one finana actually mean as viewer rating?
That is "fun"
@@lsebastian9086 1 Finana = 300 ccv. there is also 1 DecaFinana = 3000ccv. is an actual SI unit now
I may be wrong but I had the impression that it was a variable unit of measure. That you need to look for the ccv of one of her streams in the same period of time to the streamer(s) you are going to compare and that is the value of "finana" for that specific comparison.
I love how forced the niji tweets are. "Oops, Finana is under fire. ANYWAYS Here's a thread of love to Finana, completely unrelated." Like, I get it but seeing how it's something they do time and time again, there's a point where I start doubting if it's actual support to a friend or if it's just management using their voices for yet another time.
Yeah it feels like they are forced to do it, feels very fake, I mean what's new lmao
I just find it funny that the Silver Medal for "Most hated Niji" is trying to deflect for the Bronze Medal as if that isn't going to make the whole situation that much worse.
It could be both, if the idea of some livers possibly being management is true.
@@KonpikoponI think we can tell by now who is forced and who does it on their own accord. With research and digging you can find out who to like and who do dislike.
I've never seen any other vtuber Company Members do that, nor any Company whatsoever for that matter. And you know why? Cuz it's corny and kinda cynical/self-aware and self serving. I Wonder If they'll ever notice that and stop making a fool of themselves cuz It doesn't look good [asking people for positive messages that is]
Oh it's the "Educate yourself" fish
Yeah I was never a fan of those "educate yourself" type of personalities. I stopped watching after that.
A mermaid telling others to educate yourself. What a surprise eh?
I was going to come in here and say the same thing.
My favorite part about that incident was that she never apologized for calling a beloved gender non-conforming community transphobic, instead apologizing for banning a word that could be used in different contexts. That is, she never educated herself, and considering it's such a fringe viewpoint that she lectured others on so condescendingly, I doubt she'd be able to internalize her mistake anyways
@@talkingtakotaco8611 Me too and it sucked because at the time I liked watching her alot.
Finana "Contract Broken 3 Times Ryugu" is the fakest person I've ever seen...
Ah yes, Finana "educate yourself" Ryugu
Wait he broke contract 3 times dam i only watch mika and selen in that time
@@brexemartinez What are the contracts?
@@enoki_suki Basically a lot of the things Zaion got terminated for Finana had already done. I can't remember exactly, but I think she made similar dark jokes like Zaion did. There was a whole list of things she had done, not sure if its still floating around.
I've seen the "broken contract 3 times" thing but idk what she did, can someone tell me
I guess Finana didn't educate herself.
Nice reference
She never recovered from that, her numbers have been terrible since that incident. And tbh...she earned it.
@@PhyrraxFinana was one person I didn't expect to gaslight lieing to her own fans. But it ring through indeed.
@@Phyrraxwhat event? Thanka
Are people really still holding onto that? She apologised. Let it go.
If she wants to stay out of trouble, finana really should just educate herself.
WOW throwing back her own words back at her? I see you 😊
The same advice id give to kroni. she have a blown fit over booba yikes.
To all that nonsense Millie was spouting, there needs saying only a single word in retort. Zaion.
ZIEG ZAION!!!
Why the hell do I hear a certain green parrot screaming from the distance?
Sayu!❤
Zaion also said Finana was a friend till she absolutely backstabbed her… so tbh i can see Millie actually believing what she’s saying…
@@AbysswalkerOftheEchoes-qn9pg schizo gonna be everywhere. Schizo supported Sayu. Schizo gonna be heard 😂
Finana sounds so disingenuous, she is super vague making comments like "She gaslighted me" and "I'm a really good person" who even says that, no good person does that, that's like yelling "Disappointment" when trying to fake being disappointed.
Zaion was a mess at that time so who knows...management could be gaslighting Finnana for all we know...
@@command_unit7792 Still dont think a person that is genuinely hurt would go and talk about such events, unless triggered. Most people try to avoid these depressing memories and bury them deep. Even more, she's literally badmouthing someone on the internet in an attempt to gain a moral high ground, which just gives off an "I'm going to use chat to spread and normalize looking down on this person" vibe
I mean, finana is a part of elira's clique so it makes quite a lot of sense.
@@command_unit7792Given everything that's happened with Doki, and the fact that it sounds like what the talents were shown in the documents from her by their managers (who shouldn't have shown them the documents in the first place) doesn't seem to match what Doki said was in there, it honestly wouldn't be surprising to me in the slightest if Niji's management straight up lies to their talents in an attempt to make them feel like only the management can help them, when said management is the one driving knives into their backs.
@@terrancecorey9859for all we know, this is her way of coping. Not saying she's right to do it, but nobody's in a good state of mind to make rational decisions when something like that happens, least of all if you're in Nijisanji.
Fun fact: While Millie describes Finana as having a "siren-like" voice, the songs sirens sing are meant to lure seafarers to their deaths. One could say that a yacht is a suitable vessel for seafaring.
Sirens are also the loud “WEEWOO WEEWOO” things that tell you danger/emergencies are nearby. Both versions fit, I guess.
I'll be honest, I never met a person in my entire life, that says something like *"I'm a nice person"* or *"I like to give the benefit of the doubt"* and not have that person be manipulative or asshole.
*Not saying she is, I just never met one*
Not even one real nice person will ever say that "they are a nice person" to begin with 😭 most of them are so humble that they'll most likely say "I'm just doing what a normal person would do" etc etc
@@Konpikopon at most you get the "i try to be a nice person as much as i can" type of response.
Same energy as "I'm an empath" with the same attitude lol. They feel more so that's why they're better than you 😆
There's a reason you haven't met someone like that, it's non-existent.
There's not a person that's self aware of such things unless they suffer from any obsessive condition that makes it relatively easy to spot.
@@atk9989The "I try to be a nice person" is a person admitting that they arent as good as they show themselves to be, but are putting effort into being someone better than themselves.
This is why it's unacceptably bad that Niji management force their livers to play irl Amogus.
Green sus
Like Finana blocking someone over giving advise and telling us to educate ourselves? Wow unbelievable.Millie stepping in? No surprise really. Like it really confirms Millie who she is as a person.
Wonder where Millie was while Selen was struggling and needed support...
@@PiprupBeing Yuri with girls elsewhere. Where else would she be?
@@KureijiOllieZomerade and later on bootlicking for niji and saying they're not a black company... like good job millie you proved you have no integrity
I mean, I won't defend that Finana is a particularly good person or anything, but that reply she received was completely uncalled for. So it makes perfect sense to block a person that's giving you such backhanded comments.
@@rinnnnnnnnnnrinthe black company clip was back in November I believe.
The evolution of that clip's comments has been wild. When it came out, all the comments were in support of Finana and talking about what a dipshit Zaion was and how sorry they were for Finana.
Then when Sayu first released her "friend's" response, it went to like a 50/50 ratio of people being pissed at Finanna and defending her.
And now after everything that has happened these past couple months or so, it is pretty much 99.999% people being absolutely livid at her.
I will never not be smug for being one of the few that saw through Finana's BS
(probably learned from bad past experience but still)
In retrospect, during the situation (before the One Girl's Story document) I was on Zaoin's side, thinking that she probably was better as an indie, such as thinking that the controversial joke she made would probably be better received if she wasn't corpo. I also thought Finana misinterpreted Sayu's words as gaslighting as an honest mistake due to miscommunication.
Now I'm still on Sayu's side, and Finana is no longer in my good graces after this information. She may be a good friend to Millie, but she is no longer a good person in my eyes.
Seems I'm crossing off a name from my list of oshis, and people I wish to befriend in Operation Ω.
For real I saw this clip where zaion was backstabbed and people under the comments were like “just move on stop being it up” and now I watch it again and don’t see those comments again after the whole selen stuff happened
What did Finana do?
@@moopotato2614put her foot in her mouth.
Now I understand why Pomu left LazuLight…
The cancelled things weren't an indication for you?!?!?
Jesus....
Presenting Lazulight! We have:
1. a Backstabbing Fish!
2. a Clique Leader!
3. [Become a better company to unlock this character]
there is no way she would go to Antarctica with them if she hated them. Thats definitely not the reason
@@Keiken0 Yeah, that's what feels odd to me. They really did seem like close friends, otherwise a lot of things probably would have never happened. But now all of this is going on and... What should one make of it? If anything at all.
I remember how Pomu? Was pissed of her crybaby noises lol
Hololive craziest drama vs Nijisanji tamest drama
Oh that is FAR from being the craziest drama in Hololive, much less HoloEN.
@@GawainW yeah hololive ain't perfect
@@aureleavalon2897 People aren't perfect. All workplaces have drama at times, it's just not usually in the spotlight for everyone to see like in this kind of work. It all really depends on how you handle it and we can see that Hololive for what it's worth handles it a bit more professionally than Nijisanji has.
Hell, even Mel's termination is feels like a normal graduation that feell almost like no drama at all. At least we know she happy right now.
Its seems Kronii is on her period
About kroni, probably not unrelated but in her PL she said some days ago how she was fed up with being nice and swallowing stuff and being quite about it and that now she was gonna speak up her mind more often. Later said something aling the lines that she indeed started doing it and feels a lot more cool with herself. Probably it's gonna leak out to Kroni's interactions as well
Not really a pleasant look though. I like Kronii but this aggressiveness trying to control chat is not fun to be around
Obviously she has other irl problem that's affecting her, I suggest she take a break to sort things out.
Definitely true! I understand that sometimes life sucks and we just want to vent out, but at the end day lashing out at her chat isn't the way to do it.
Also before someone says something, yeah, I can see how keeping doing the same joke over and over after a year past is irritating and tirering or being horny all the time can be, but her model is, at the end of the day, sexy and err... equipped. Also she has afaik control over new designs so she could tame down the sexyness if she is bothered so much by the reactions.
But above all, I think it's just a lot of things pilling up together at the same time: the jokes, her health, work stress and so on, or in other words, burnout. And it's completely normal. What is not is lashing out at people for "small things". But again, completely understandable albeit not recommended.
if this is what she's going for, honey that's a terrible way to shoot yourself in the foot. like fuck sake, she might as well take notes from nijisanji to make herself worse
Oh this doesn’t sound good, hope she doesn’t try to “control chat” like this otherwise things may go downhill.
As someone who’s a huge fan of Fianna thanks to her mermaid motives I can’t help but feel disappointed in her for backstabbing Zaion/Sayu
oh trust me
there's alot of things to be disappointed for
She also doesn't like femboys very much.
Zaion was a mess at that time so what happened with Finanna might actually be Zaions fault 'technicly' but its the fault of the Nijisanji to begin with creating the whole situation...
Is it motive or motif?
Just giving you a hard time because chaos is fun.
She also doesn't like gnc males very much considering she tried to ban them.
The whole "deadlines" and "presentations". NGL that sounds like manager speech
I was going to say that. Things that a manager/staff would know and point out.
On one hand I think Flipsie needs to chill the fuck out cause making a "KMS" joke on the internet is like ehhh why are we cancelling here, but on the other hand holy fuck that burn was *red hot* like sheeeshu
I think it's because the KMS joke was OVERUSED in the Nijisanji Vtuber department. Either that's a really bad thing or a good thing.
Like that comment said, i'm all for hating Niji after the Doki incident, but come on. Flipsie clearly knew that even a comment like that was gonna spread like wildfire and fan the flames "before something bigger happaened" my ass
its fair to cancel her for that, did you not hear the part of the video reminding about how she tried to cancel the word "trap" for famine men that look like women? and instead of justifying why its wrong used the elegant "Educate yourself" argument. No she is toxic and thinks because she has a "platform" as a certain political side likes to say that her feelings and being offended on other peoples behalf is important enough she has to say so. Even though her opinion is wrong anyway as plenty identify as "femboy" and being a "trap" is the peak of being a femboy. at least canceling her over "KMS" jokes is valid since 90% she was involved in driving 2 people to trying to "KMS".
He was just helping Feesh to Educate herself.
Not a funny joke though, especially in context. I don't want to dogpile on Finana over this, looks like she was just trying to sound silly with some careless zoomer humor, but she's been a public figure on the internet now for years. She should know her words carry weight and need to be expressed very carefully.
I think Kronii needs a vacation. The subway thing and the booba thing, one or the other could be fine on their own but one right after the other kinda feels like she's getting stressed and losing patience. Little irrelevancies like those have been pretty common in the hololive fandom since the start, I mean we still see old memes about Korone's little engrish phrases and Gura's floaties or eating soggy pizza, refusing to let a joke die just kinda something the fandom does. Mind a request to stop it isn't entirely new, it's usually fairly rare since it kinda kills a bit of the mood like going to a friend's and then them getting upset about something fairly innocuous that's become a bit of a habit for you. One thing you can hold back on out of respect for their wishes, but if it happens again then it starts feeling a bit awkward and like you're walking on eggshells.
She’s definitely been under some level of stress, she had to fly to Poland pretty soon after her latest cover debut on pure business stuffs She seems to have vented hard on her PL in the last couple days… but she also says she feels a lot better after making her voice heard on these two matters, and the Kronies (myself included) are showering her with nothing but love on both current and PL accounts. It’s honestly a beautiful thing.
@@TheCrazyCapMaster As long as she gets the stress out it's good, should probably still take a bit of a break though if only to let this cool off since this is blood in the water for Antis.
You forgot her recent health issues.. i mean she had what 3 jaw surgeries in the last 18months, plus several stomach virus, covid infections, and final she lost a fucking RIB!! a Rib ! with no context added, idk how the hell that happened (maybe she donated part of her liver to a family member and they fucked up surgery and had to remove rib?? idk) Anyways i'd imagine all those health issues made her very cranky too
she jsut stop reading supers, they are cringe as hell, not even Suisei reads them as they suck lol
@@SombreroGato Three Jaw Surgeries? Holy moses i heard things were tricky but man that is tough, no wonder she had been feeling stressed.
Dangggg not Millie glazing Niji members for the x amount of times. I applaud her efforts but we've seen Finana's true colors, you're not convining me to like her again
Then don’t like her. You don’t have to like Finana or watch her content, nobody’s trying to convince you here.
@@LunarStar1482 I don't watch her...anymore. I'm talking about Millie trying to paint Finana in a good light. People can have good qualities but be a bad apple, Finana is one of those. I'm not letting Millie sway me to thinking otherwise.
@@zeroreality4812 Sometimes, someone painting you in a good light makes you come off as worse too
Getting an endorsement from Millie counts as a red flag these days honestly.
@@zeroreality4812or...sometimes people are good people and make mistakes. Y’all rip people apart for the smallest things.
Here comes the "but i tried to educate her" fish
Everyone seems to always be trying at niji, a whole lot of "NICE GUYS"
Unrelated but it’s genuinely funny seeing Kronii switch her tone immediately when she saw the chats reaction to her outburst.
I think it's 3 people iirc that made attempts in Niji. Doki, Sayu, and U-san
correct, i think u-san either tweeted about it or mentioned it on a stream, either one i don't remember, u-san "graduating" is what made me stop supporting niji all together, as yugo was my oshi,,
@@LiliumGD Loved Yugo too, started suspecting something was up with Niji then
U San is going through several problems related to her gender, when he was drunk he could get depressed x1000 about how he wanted to be a man and couldn't.
I think he was already having problems before.
@@kudryfume4667it was never confirmed they’re transgender? iirc u-san mentioned their pronouns is they/them but never said anything about being trans?
@@maryam-nusa I don't know what it is, in a stream with yugoo he drank a lot of alcohol and said he wanted to be a man.
he was born with a woman's body, it is full of videos of it On their official pages or some music event on UA-cam.
The only thing I know is that her gender is a problem for her, today, I don't know if it's okay.
Yugo left nijisanji because he had to stream certain hours per week and couldn't. Something like sana
Kronii's attitude has changed recently were things are setting her off. Maybe shes getting work fatigue and needs a break to recharge? This is just me guessing.
She is getting pissed because people keep bringing up stuff that she doesn't want to be brought up
@@daisukeniwa402645 Well, it’s the daily life of all streamers. So I like Kronii and as much as I don’t mind that she asked people to stop making jokes about the Subway because she is not the only one to have done something like that and I can understand that is can be really annoying over the time, as much on this clip, I think that she really overreacted on this poor viewer for a really useless reason. She seems really edgy and particularly sensitive right now.
@@Duplucky5 I think the same, I would never imagine a Hololive JP girl getting mad because something says Big Booba, that's the main vtuber catch.
She doesn't have a man and She's at the Unsold Christmas Cake age. I've seen women do that a lot. Their fault though, ignoring the average guy who isn't Chad and Tyrone
@@shinyamada488 What the hellar e you talking about?
The Kronni one kinda surprises me a little, like it just comes off as something you would expect from being an entertainer/streamer and having leaned into that audience. I find that alot of the time its just people wanting to goof off or wanting some kind of reaction/noticement from the streamer. Seems like something you could ignore altogether, or maybe ban words in chat? The only time I think it'd just be too inappropriate is something if they're talking about something concerning/intense where its like... ok no goofing off for this.
That what exactly happened with superchats. It seems like people forget the rule of don't take the streamer off topic.
@@yrreberry1092 Could be just different energies mixing around then. Cause seen lotsa streamers doing supers all over the place and having a giddy time with it no problem. Maybe some people just come from different places and dont get the kind of etiquette that vtubers get like this.
Kiara asking her chat to reduce the Bottom left jokes.
is kronii ok? seems like she's getting really frustrated with her community. I'm not invalidating how she feels but considering the internet the more you bring something your not comfortable with the more people will poke.
That is true, however I said it on the clip channel where she talked about the subway thing, Khyo used it in the last video, but if people are going to be bringing it up more, that is a form of bullying and harassment
this is why nerissa is better
@@kenzor4953 I love them both. Can't fault Kronii for being annoyed tho. if you're gonna over use a joke to the point its no longer funny then yeah i dont fault her for being annoyed
Your not invalidating how she feels in that statement. Your being realistic. Same with the subway thing. Chat reflects the streamer. You can't have 10,000 clips where she is showing off her assets then be confused when people are looking at your assets.
@@kenzor4953two different people. Two different takes on life.
While Nerissa might spoil the incels, Kronii is more reserved.
To be honest, by adressing the subway and booba comments Kronii is making the situation worse. Pretty much every streamer and youtuber has a community that spams old jokes that are no longer funny to the streamer. There are usually two ways to these jokes to die out and these ways are ingnoring the coments that make these jokes or by giving the community something new to meme about.
For those unfamiliar with lady-speak: the angriest Kronii got during that clip was that forced chuckle at someone mentioning that she's been in a bad mood. Few things in this world make women angrier than pointing out they're in a bad mood when they are already in a bad mood. They see it almost as a challenge. Main reason she dialed back was because she's an employee and has to keep people entertained, and I respect the hustle.
Shes on her period 😂
@@Deathwing21 See jokes like this won't fly anymore. Not only because it's unfunny nowadays but also overused.
"Woman angry? woman bleeding month!"
@@Geheimnis-c2e Well its even worse if she isnt on her "bleeding month" she chose to be a b*tch over a simple comment she couldve ignored or timed out, it seems like she wants to lash out for whatever reason
@@Deathwing21 are you 12? period time jokes are the lamest. to make it even worse, i keep seeing you make the same joke on other comments. over and over. so not only is the bad joke not funny, and offensive. you keep using it like you think you are a comedic mastermind picking the gold tier joke from your noggin like a booger.
@@Deathwing21 dude grab a paper and pencil and think of something original rather than spam the same joke over and over again
here's my rhetorical question: why do memes die?
People still make Kanata gorilla jokes, Fubuki cat jokes, and Subaru duck jokes despite those being really old. Coming from the OneyPlays and Game Grumps community I know all about an audience just not letting a joke die regardless of how they started and that same crowd still says the same jokes even to this day. Look at the Brad's Wife Cracker Barrel meme to see just how long a crowd of people will try to keep a joke going.
I mean i feel like ya gotta pay attention to where the joke is going. Subaru for example *FULLY* leaned into the duck identity but Kronii's been trying to ignore what are quite frankly dead horses for some time. idk, just got a different vibe i guess.
@@KippyoftheMud She's been trying but it's not going to happen because it's still the most memorable thing she's done. If she wants people to forget about it she needs to make more memories not tell people to stop bringing up the ones they have.
I also don't think she should be telling people to stop mentioning booba, those people are the most easily entertained low effort viewers any vtuber's going to get. She's better off taking their money and ignoring their comments than telling them to stop and risk other people leaving because "she has a temper".
(Linkara voice) God dammit Ross, they hit the fucking pentagon!!!
Like that? It was a two for one.
@@hurrdurrmurrgurr I like Kronii but lately she's been annoying with this stuff lol
@@KippyoftheMud I only mean to say that a large amount of people can keep a joke going endlessly and there's nothing a content creator can really do to stop it.
If we're talking realistically, Kronii is only going to cause a streisand effect. Rather than pointing out 1 comment out of 50, she should just ignore it. Yes, it's disrespectful, but that's the life of a vtuber. Vtuber models are supposed to look aesthetically pleasing, so she should expect atleast this much. If anything, her community is pretty tamed compared to others.
Kronii seems like she needs a break, one snap at chat is weird, two snaps at chat in a short span of time, when she wasn't previously known to be so irritable, is starting to indicate she *might* be having some kind of emotional breakdown.
I can understand Kronii's frustration, there's a time and place for everything. And if she doesn't want people to discuss certain things during a stream, people should respect that. BUT, if she's reading super chats, why look at chat? Why not just read the super chats and ignore regular chat? She can just pretend she didn't see the booba comments since the point is to read super chat (not regular chat). Also her outfit isn't really seiso; it's kinda skin tight around the chest area, there's a window, and there's jiggle physiques. It's not surprising why people would bring up booba. I say both parties are at fault. Chat should've stopped when she said to stop, and Kronii should've just ignored the booba comments. That's just my opinion.
Nah. This has real "well she shouldn't have been wearing that if she didn't want the attention" vibes.
@@kyletucker3811 Not the point I'm tryna make. Also answer me this, why did chat bring up booba?
@@BlueLoveYT Because that's the appealing of her model...
For real imagine Kson somehow starts get annoyed by the MF jokes... Kronii is not making any sense.
@@kyletucker3811 Her outfit was literally designed to look like that, she knows what she was getting into. But what do we expect, Vtubing survives off of getting orbiters to throw money at 3D rigged drawings. Makes sense that ancient rome equated actors and performers to a step above prostitutes.
There was no follow up from chat, just one guy, one singular comment, and no one joined in, yet she got worked out this hard. It's 100% her fault, she might be stressed out in her personal life, but she needs to control herself, especially with such a small issue
It's the Internet, it's hard to monitor everything and set boundaries. Kronii had problems with her chat since her debut, but she needs to set some rules.
this quit bitching and set rules girl.
I don't know why this is being clipped and discussed? This is an issue with her and her chat. It should be discussed there.
Why are you talking to me about it? I don't even like Kroni. Kroni can yell at her chat all she wants. I don't care.
@@Jordan-Ramses having boundaries and rules equals going Karen mode... Interesting
@@Jordan-RamsesApparently having boundaries is being a Karen. Weird I thought Karen's were people who didn't respect boundaries and insisted on seeing rhe manager.
@@xplayfan21... You mean like saying that it's not okay to be talking about booba during certain times?
Kroni doesn't like Subway jokes? My dear kroni, my friend in God, you are the one who came out with this joke, how do you expect new people that know you only for clips know that one of the very reasons they picked up interest in you now brothers you?
Also is better just to ignore the boobs comment I mean the model really puts emphasis on that part
Kronii has been under stress because of personal life stuff recently so in the last sc reading stream she was venting a little bit. i think its good that she address the subway joke problem because its been troubling her for a long while now
yeah but the booba thing was uncalled for when her character model has giant boobas. like how is he not expecting people to not talk about it lol.
@@LCJammer Bringing that up once, ok no problem. DOing that for the eleventh time after many years is when it becomes frustrating.
@@LCJammer Just because she have big boobs doesn't mean people can bring it into every conversation, especially if it's not the topic. It just gets annoying and unnecessary
@@LCJammer i thinks she know that there will always be someone talking about her booba but iirc this is her first time addressing it on stream. and maybe because she was talking about being more transparent with her audience about what have been troubling her as well.
@@LCJammerwhen it's totally uncalled it is rude and weird.
Funny how millie says "and she entertained all my shenanigans", this could be interpreted into a lot of things, some of which like a queen B of the school got her posse to be ok with all her shenanigans like being a bully to new girl or something
Can someone ask millie what if someone doesn't entertain her shenanigans but still in her workplace, does she/he not be considered as friends or colleague?
I sort of get Kronii's frustration but the response sounded a bit overly tilted, no? Kind of feels like everyone just minding their business got reprimanded when it looks like she got 1 guy'd by a tourist. It's good to lay down ground rules and communicate things that upset you, but the "listen to me read SC's or get out" sounded kind of harsh.
nah her chat is ridiculous, its spamming it all the time, even in super chats, its frigging annoying
Was a bit wired. Especially the actual insult.
most people i see uncontrollably down horrendous for big boobs aren’t even straight guys. it’s OTHER female vtubers.
so assuming it’s a guy being a creep kind of annoys meh ngl.
@@hayatojin2886 I don't watch Kronii too often, but if that's true I can see why that would be annoying. There are genuinely some good streamers that for some reason or another their chats are super down bad and simp like and it's just too cringe to watch with the chat open. But chatting is part of the experience otherwise I would just watch a VOD or clip so I end up not watching those streamers.
Lmao 1 guy'd
More than half of her chat is just emoji spam. So, calling out one guy that made a booba comment for being distracting is crazy
This might jst be me, but one of the biggest red flags is when someone calls himself "too nice".
Yeah usually people should point out your traits for you.
@@icedtohfuu9555 not all traits, but this one specifically u should mention
Slightly off topic, but it has similar energy when someone is violently against shota and loli content. But then said person is the one you gotta keep an eye out for when near a child.
@@Spearra what?
@@paulocezardinizjunior346 he's talking about irony.
I get the subway joke is funny but it’s long gone now and should stay as a memory of an arc from 2022, there is a lot to know about Kronii and pointing out Kronii’s booba is uncomfortable to the person being talked to
She's a vtuber, there are no booba on display, it's an animated drawing, the same standards of what is or isn't creepy don't apply. Also, we know they have considerable creative control over their avatar's outfits, she chose this.
I still get recommended clips and shorts from 2022 and older, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's why people still bring it up. Especially new viewers.
@@DarkFenix2k5no she didnt. Havin a pretty avatar isnt a blanket permission to harrass someone. It takes a level of entitlement to think that its fine to say such things to someone just cause how they choose to look.
@@DarkFenix2k5it's not about having pretty model, it's about what they see you for, imagine if you are only seen to be just that, shit would get tiring fast, hell many where complaining about saying her booba size was nerf because it was hidden by the commander outfit, before she revealed the layers to satisfy and have them stfu
Not trying to be mean to kronii but having one or two people bring up the subway joke constantly should be ignored just so people don't get a reaction out of her, the same goes for the booba jokes.
She should take a small break for her stress before it gets worse.
Kinda weird for kronii to say the booba thing was off-topic/distracting when half of her chat is just people spamming 3 emojis repeatedly. Like just pass over it like you pass over the emoji spam
At this point the company might as well shut down
It's really NijiEN that needs to shut down. JP is fine. The EN branch, as well as the ID branch, in the end became the failed experiments of a mainly Japanese VTuber agency. If you ask me, they favor their original JP branch more, and are xenophobic to the point of apathy and neglect. It's like a family of royalty focusing on the firstborn child with more noble blood, leaving only the bastard children to starve in the gutter.
It feels like Kronii has been very touchy lately, I wonder if something happened to her.
yeah, that was such a overreaction to some comment that wasn’t as lewd or talking about boobs in such a lewd way that she overexagerated, in general THERE IS NO WAY you can police what people will say, does she wanna her chat to not maention boobs AT ALL unless SHE talks about it??? eh???
like what else out of no were are we supposed to not say when she thanks the chater for supas????
She was even complaining on her pl account about working with people
I'm starting to think that being a vtuber, or an internet personality in general, just isn't suited to her considering such small and petty things like jokes and someone mentioning her chest is enough to set her off.
Or maybe she just feels disrespected when someone seemingly isn't paying attention to what she's talking about and just saying "booba", and the repetition of it happening over and over again is enough to make her want to set a boundary. Vtubers are people too who have feelings and preferences. This is most likely something that was always an issue to some degree but she just tried to ignore it and she's getting tired of trying to ignore it.
@@K-Sha1 ignore it? dude she encouraged it early on. if she legit hates it, then she shouldve just cut it off way early on. shiori in her early streams made jokes where it's about kiss your homies. literally wasnt long before she just said it there just drop it.
Not really sure if I'm off base at all, but Kroni seems really irritable in those clips. Like i understand being annoyed at people beating a dead horse, but you really need to roll with the punches on that type of stuff because regardless of how you spin it it'll still make you look kind of bad if you harp on it. Plus the boob rant was honestly unnecessary, she just seems bitter about something that's ultimately really innocuous overall.
yeah. that statement wasnt even a joke. it was just a funny statement.
Classic ☕. Krowy should have been Niji honestly.
@@gossamera4665 Tbh her reactions lately seems like she's a member of nijisanji
There's a better way of doing it tbh, she could just look at how JP does it.
Clearly, stuff is going on with Kronii behind the scenes. Even if she doesn't like it, or any of the vtubers don't like it, they usually have a pretty strong self-control to simply not say anything about it. The fact that she was legit getting peeved after a random booba comment, and then back peddled, and I mean back peddled HARD, as soon as she saw the "she has a bad temper nowadays" comment means, to me, that she's getting ... stressed, worn down, burnt out in a way to the point where she's forgetting that, you know, the booba are apart of that whole package she's selling and what brings in the dough. So she suddenly snaps and has to be reminded and reassure her audience that haha, yes, booba nice, we all love booba, haha, but later. Makes me worried that she might need to take another break, get whatever's going on in the background handled so she can be less stressed maybe.
Wow Kronii, she could've just ignored the comment but she decided to be fixated and rant about it for longer than necessary. Kinda exposed how she really sees the viewers lol
Yep. She's like the typical Twitch thot, uses sexuality to get views and an audience, gets angry when audience says sexual things in response.
Hating Niji is completely valid, but ANYTHING that Flipsie says should not be taken seriously. Her ENTIRE personality online is hating Niji. Like literally if you go to her streams she barely even talks at all and just plays shooters. Incredibly uninteresting individual and is blatantly just trying to farm Niji hatred to get more followers. It's pathetic really.
I was with the clock about the subway but my God, if I am a new viewer the first thing I'm going to think is "Jesus Christ boobs" some people type it we see that with Zen we see it with milky milky actively plays into it that is pretty much her brand Zen plays into it often but I feel like it's unfair to Target that one person so harshly in that moment.
So you care more about a random chatter feelings then people spamming booba every five secs. Why you acting like the chatter a child that can't read the room.
@@yrreberry1092 There was only one person who said that in Kronii's chat at that time. No one added to it. No one reacted to it. Only Kronii did.
@gloomy9728 dawg stop acting like this only ever happened once. You clearly weren't in chat when people spaming where the booba go on the new model. 🙄
Millie's the type to say "you tell'em, boss" in gangster movies. A real goon
While I don't want people to think I'm just being hateful, I do think that after much consideration and observation that this Kronii situation is for sure on her. Whether its due to stress or her default demeanor, I can't say but I do know that she essentially made things worse because she couldn't compose herself. The subway thing lives in infamy but I've only ever seen people talk about it now because of her addressing it as opposed to this constant thing she said was always cropping up in her chat. I've seen no one, nor her provide proof that the subway thing has gotten so out of hand that she needed to address this.
And the whole booba thing is for sure on her as well. She likely chose the model, she played up the ribbon bit and has made subdued but lewd comments. Does that mean chat should spam booba everytime she breathes? Obviously not, but when she went off on that ONE guy who was apparently a first timer, you end up looking like a fool yourself with thin skin. I'm sorry but I have to fault her on this one because while I may not be in her chat, I would expect this issue to be bigger than "booba is irrelevant to the topic, single chatter so begone". If it was an issue of spam, then her call out would've been vastly different. She should've addressed it as a chat wide issue of spamming rather than single out one guy, a new guy at that, that she *chose* to pay attention to. There was no provocative supa and the dude wasn't spamming. She talked about time and place yet she failed to understand that she needed to do the same which is why people are now split on whether she was right or wrong in this situation.
All in all, what she talked about are indeed issues but she handled it very poorly and people should have the right to point it out. Sorry but even if she is stressed, Kronii screwed up on this one
I agree. I like Kronii a lot, but I can’t say that she wasn’t overreacting.
Good observation. An interesting way to see it. I don’t watch her much anymore haven’t liked how she gotten over the years, not saying she’s bad or anything like that I bet she’s a good person some of the other talents I watch like her and say nice things about her but I just never was into the attitude she gets from time to time and usually see her insulting or degrading chat whether that is bit or something else my bad there. But I just wish her to get some time off and clear her mind, to get things settle and not think too much about some random comments. I already some other stuff about this in another comment but I hope things don’t get worse for her.
@@isaac14ac Maybe she's let her narcissist gimmick go to her head.
NGL, I kind of have to agree
I agree and I think its kinda ironic she complains about people commenting on her boobas while the model is clearly made that way to attract viewers 😂
I don't totally like how Kronii handled the comment... it would have been better to set some rules prior to streaming. And I am not sure what she meant by time and place... any topic can be discussed in a chat stream even if non-seiso. I wouldn't know when is the right time at all now unless it's a raunchy game like Bunny Garden.
I understand her frustration and chat viewers may not respect some boundaries, but I still feel negative about her response.
Don't watch much Kronii, but seems like she could use a break (though which one of them couldn't?). Going off like this, even if it seems justified, only serves to feed the trolls. I see a lot of comments saying things like "people should change" or "respect her wishes", and sure, in an ideal world, that might work. This, however, is the internet. The only way to make something go away is to ignore it. If you don't respond to Subway or boob comments, people will eventually get bored of making them. As is, she's pouring gasoline on a non-situation.
Finana is a backstabbing friend
and this comes as a suprise why? I mean she is friends with millie and elira...
and she could have just talked to Flipsie instead of blocking her. geez. Real friends communicate.
Im might be really late but what did millie and elira do?
@@ChipsAndStrips oh boy
@@ChipsAndStrips bro you missed multiple entire anime arcs of stuff to catch up on
Kronii also had a 3rd rant about how she doesn't like to stream unless her setup is perfect, that people will go in the comments and say "Hey are you in a tunnel?" or "Is she using a new mic?" and how she hated those comments. She went on about it for quite a while and with a lot of emotion.
Girl needs some vacation. An entertainer like her shouldn't be losing her temper so often over trivial stuff that can happen to any vtuber.
They should've just not blocked and reacted and said anything, both Finana and Millie should not have responded, acknowledged or made any new posts or tweets about it. They are just literally shooting themselves in the foot. Just ignore and move on. Karma will serve.
Admittedly I don't watch a lot of streams, and Kronii has always struck me as a strong-willed person, but she's seemed especially tense as of late. Kind of hope she takes a vacation for herself, she seems like she really needs it
I do wonder if after the livers leaves for one reason or another they will adress... what they did, i do believe they are forced to be silent by the black company.
It's like that Mata has had to use shade. Sayu has to talk like Zaion is a friend
Ah hell no, Kronii is going down a route now. She’s getting one guy’d in chats now? Won’t be long before she ends up taking a break
That was my worry too. It sounds like a lot of pent up stress becoming spur of the moment venting. Is blue just a cursed color in the Vtuber space?
She's becoming a Kurosanji liver.
@@Wayward_Warlock Which is crazy cause when Kronii was arguably going through her worst, the cosmetic surgery, all her fans were patient with her and so was she. Now she’s getting pissy over jokes as if she doesn’t contribute to them.
@@HeyMarioapparently she’s going through some hard stuff irl so it definitely seems like a misplaced stress/anger. Hopefully she gets better/takes some time off for herself
@@HeyMario+ Hmmmm, no man. She gets surgery and still can't get man. She can get with one of her fans but women consider that for "settling for less".
I see why she's stressed but she did that to herself. Especially with how arrogant she acts
People keep saying 'Hate the company and not the Livers'. But boi, it's harder to do when it's Livers are pretty scummy themselves.
And then they come and say "it's the contracts." Like bruh, contracts be damned, it's not an excuse for brute behavior
@@GoldRichnessAt this point, the Livers are in the correct company with how they both are 😂
@@Spearra true
I understand that maybe sometimes people are going to far with some jokes, but if the way Kronii addressed to that, if it was me, I'd just go away, never support and never support her again.
I get what Kronii is saying, but it was really the way she said it. It came off so condescending, even when she tried to be nicer about it. Not everyone has been a part of her community since the beginning, so she really needs to remember that to some people, the jokes and stuff might be the first time they've heard/seen them. Not saying she can't tell people not to make the jokes, just wish she would have been less angry and then condescending about it.
As for the Finana situation, I'm with a lot of the others on this. Finana has felt very two-faced since the "educate yourself" and Zaion incidents. She comes of as a people pleaser that does whatever she needs to do to keep herself "safe" from management or the Twitter mob. Nothing she says or does comes off as genuine and that just really kills any interest I have in her content.
Is Kronii good? Does she need a vacation? Because why is she reading regular chat when she is supposed to be reading supas? Like calling out that one message when that outfit looks like her chest is filling out apple bottom jeans is a bit much.
Never watched Kronii before but she feels like a bit of an asshole. That guy didn't deserve a whole ribbing because he said booba instead of emote spam in chat. Like I hate the "you were distracting" excuse she gave. All seriousness it's your job as an entertainer to, get this, entertain, not go off on a tyrade because *you* got distracted.
She just hates men, thats all there is to it
@@Happi___ Outside of how much money they give her. Typical e-thot.
@@Happi___ With EN streamers, it was inevitable one of those types would show up.
Once Kronii or any other vtubers say something like a meme, it spreads out all over the internet and well, you can't stop it
I think that it's better to never talk or comment with Kronii or i cant breath...anything could be a "wrong moment" to her and i can't stand that pressure...
PMS
that poor new person to kroniis stream who probably just joined for the first time, saw big booba, commented on said booba, and got called out for it, and shamed being called a "prepubecent boy" like it goes both ways, ppl could not say booba, and she could just not acknowledge those commenters, i could see if every other comment said booba, but it was like one comment in the sea of comments from that clip.
Im not too sure on this, but if it's like twitch, first time chatters to a stream's messages get highlighted (i know some youtube streamers who have this, not sure if its an automatic thing though) on the streamers side, so its much easier to see. if this is the case for Kroni, it makes a lot more sense as to why she read it, and if it was a first time chatter, she was a little harsh imo.
i don't see anything wrong with that. i remember when coco used to deal with the booba jokes too and she gave it to them straight that they should just go to a porn site if they're going to be prepubescent.
kronii becoming the queen of getting one guy’d unfortunately
That I hate that I'm a really nice person line made me recoil from my seat. What??
I'm not talking about Kronii booba. But i will lament over the missing ribbon. I don't know, but it always felt like a vital part of her design, just like the feathers for Kiara. The Ribbon not being in other outfits makes it always look surreal.
One will realize that Finana and Kronii are just the same 'educate yourself' types of people... if they were honest with themselvees.
I noticed that, too. They seem like the type of women who secretly hate you for no good reason while they take your money with a smile.
why is kronii so irritable rn? It was just ONE comment lol
Kronii forgot what and where she is. shes a vtuber using an anime avatar (with big assets) in an idol company from japan. That type of talk and behavior from chat and fans is par for the course. if she's not going to simply ignore the 'cake is a lie' repetition then update rules and block words. if not then perhaps going indie and using a platypus avatar would suffice.
yeah that was such an overexageration LMAO
With how long Kronii has been on the internet you'd think she'd know all this.
Ok I'm just gonna say for the Kronii thing, the more you bring it up (especially the part where it bothers you) it's just gonna happen more imo. Honestly the best thing she can do is just either ignore it or just time people out for saying it (or ask mods to do it)
She said she's been ignoring it for months and said nothing's changing. Idk, don't watch her but I do love her collabs.
@@icedtohfuu9555 then she should just time em out at that point. IMO still feels like she's getting one guy'd tho. She might need a break if something like this causes enough irritation for a mention on stream
I do agree with this, tho I do kinda feel bad for her at times it can get frustrating to see the same joke over and over thrown constantly at you, I think Geega from Vshojo handles this sort of stuff in one of the best ways, her community spams an emote at the weird comments in chat and if the person keeps it up the mods ban or time them out it is great and it does filter out a lot of the weirdo's and trolls a good amount of the time, her community is super healthy and everyone is chill af including her.
Honestly it was the fact some random innane chatter got the flack for what is clearly unseen problems in her personal life. Like he did nothing to deserve that, being cringe is not enough to be deserving of that kind of treatment from someone they likely came to escape from their own personal problems
@@yohanenightingale7615Yeah exactly the job is to entertain people, make it into a joke, don't make it so heavy like that, it's always gonna be a horrible environment
When I first saw Finana's video about Sayu, I was a bit...... ticked off??? While I didn't know the whole situation and what went down, the fact that she stated things like hating being an overly nice person and got gaslighted because of it and tried to defend Sayu despite her better judgement, I felt a slight underlying sense of narcissism from her and it irritated me. And that was my first introduction (aside from Diamond City Lights) to Finana so I avoided her instantly, including collabs. Now, with her hypocritical "educate yourself" bull and the insensitive kms, I'm not surprised to see her in a bit of heat.
I can understand Kronii being frustrated, but this is the job she signed up for and I don't think the way she is going about addressing her chat is doing her any favors. Responding to people being annoying by getting upset always ends up making you look like a fool.
Kronii is really starting to lose it. I'm not sure if it's stresses from her personal life, but I wouldn't be surprised if she goes on extended break or has a meltdown on-stream soon.
So for Kronii I get that she doesn't appreciate the booba remarks which I agree are out line but to point out one commenter is a bit strange for a holomem. Before debut they learn how to deal with all those types of situations and to let herself get upset about one comment is a bit unprofessional, idk.
To be fair, Kronii could have just ignored the subway and booba comments. Her bringing it up is just gonna edge on some folks to make those comments. I mean, the internet has been open to the public for over 30 years now. How are there some people who still haven't mastered the art of ignoring? And do you really expect some folks aren't gonna make booba comments with the way her model looks? Please.
Most company don't teach staff/talent social media etiquette, which can help in dealing with situations like this. I can understand Kroni's frustration, but there are always better ways to handle that situation rather than lashing out.
this just time them out without saying anything its not that hard.
i agree with you, there really no way to stop it when the chatter are saying it are first time viewer are seeing her first time, poeple forget no matter how hard you Addresses the first time viewer was not there when she was Addressing it was better ignored it, i think she stressed.
I really hate this mindset of just ignoring things and letting them fester.
@@kyletucker3811 that's why you need an outlet to let out your negative feelings, preferably an outlet that doesn't involve venting out on other people
No hate to Kronii, but her calling out and insulting people for saying something she doesn’t like is never a good idea on the internet, no matter how right you are.
I wonder if something happened to her. Just hope that she take a break for her mental.
@@DimasNurrahman-zf4gb it’s always a good idea to take a break, especially when people’s comments start getting to you. However, if she is getting annoyed with certain things being said, rather than calling people out for it, she should enforce it as a rule and have her mods take care of it. By calling it out, she’s only going to keep noticing it and it’s going to bother her more and trolls are gonna troll.
@@Kiwaaka well, she should consult manager or her best friend to talking about it. It would be netter to keep healthy instead of Lashing out her anger on her viewer. Fortunately, some of viewers concern about her condition. But what about some viewer keep trolling on her? They'll change their oshi into someone else.
That's why choose consult is better than feel annoyed and didn't do anything.
Kronii officially putting up the "No Fun Allowed" sign, ya hate to see it.
Seeing people in chat saying « I’m so sorry you went through that » when all that Finana said was « Zaion lied to me » makes me sad to look at it sometimes
You've all heard of "The Telephone Game" right? Its the game that gave us 'Jdon My Soul'. I'm pretty sure thats literally where 98% of the Finana Vs Zaion drama originates. Neither Zaion nor Finana ever actually spoke directly. All of their correspondence was done through management.
6 months ago, everyone was supportive of Dokibird.
Everyone was anti bullying and demanding the industry change for better mental health.
How quickly we forget. Driving people to deletion is rancid behaviour, no matter who you are.
It was Niji management force their livers to play irl Amogus.
@@poom323 Pretty much but in a BAD WAY.
@@poom323that's still no excuse. Some of the livers are still genuinely bad people. Elira, Vox, Luca, Uki, Wilson, Finana, just about everyone under that damned company is a walking red flag
has Character that has giant booba.....gets mad when people talk about booba.....
Yep. It's like when a Twitch thot does a pool stream and jiggles about their assets, then complains when people sexualize them. Like, REALLY QUEEN!?
She's probably the most liberal, leftist or progressive member of Nijisanji to be honest, she's like one of those trending girl gamers on twitch that are making drama's recently regarding voice chats and toxic male game space lobby..
Kronii might need to take a break or something, she is clearly aggravated at her chat and it's not very fun to watch.
This why I swtich to funny AI neuro sama
To be fair, if you have that one friend in your social circle that keeps bringing the topic to one thing over and over again, even if you yourself enjoy that topic, it gets really annoying when it's forced on you all the time...
Doesn't even have to be boobas, imagine you like mechanics and are reading about early automatic gun designs... and then that one friend finds out about it and keeps bringing up guns every time they see you, even if you were talking with 3rd person about something completely unrelated...
Then multiply it by few hundreds - even if she tries to ignore it and it's not even that many people, it always hangs in chat, so I don't blame her for getting ticked off...
@@deSolAxeYeah but we are not talking about close friends here, we talking about a streamer-virwers relationship, she need to chill honestly, maybe she really needs a break she looks kinda sick of everything these last days.
Her lastest comments even give me the vibe she doesn't like her Vtuber persona anymore and that's ok not everyone least for ever, she may should consider graduation even.
@@deSolAxe I have someone like that in my streams. Not many people watch me live but there's very often this guy who brings up a very lame monkey joke that was never funny.
She's currently in Poland actually. Hope she can clear her head and destress while she's there.
That comment was out of nowhere. Why bring up peoples suicide attempts still when they don't want it to be the focus point anymore.
I think Flipsie was out of line with that comment for sure. The tweet was so out of line and Finana has a right for to block flipsie.
And this is someone who is a diehard sayu supporter
I'll be honest, I don't watch Kronii but she probably should let things roll off her back and ignore stupid crap in chat. Getting mad at a random chatter saying "booba" is pretty dumb. She has every right to set up whatever guidelines she wants in chat but if she starts getting upset at stupid little things repeatedly people are going to start to smell a new lolcow for milking. I think what this vtuber needs is a break from vtubing to recharge and get the crankiness worked out.
I'm all for hating on Niji but that comment just seems so out of nowhere. Finana's comment was not in a mean spirit at all. Flipsie is definitely in the wrong here.
I'm glad to see Kronii standing up for herself and keeping control of her stream environment.
I don't understand VTubers who try to control what people talk about. You're an entertainer; people pay you money. Why do you care what people are chatting about?
Remember when she wanted to ban the word "trap" from her streams? Lmfao.
I feel like lots of people have forgotten it's possible to like boobs without immediately typing "boobs" less than 5 seconds after entering chat
For as much as I enjoy anime and its community, that's kinda how the community is, much to its dismay. I mean, some of the comments in this video alone are quite unfortunate. They're pretty dramatic over a little bit of boundary limiting.
Welcome to the internet
I sure as hell don't, but even then i still think she could have handle it better, she just entertained those jokes like last month, and suddenly she have such a big reaction towards it, some audiences are just simply dumbfound by it, its one thing if she's already stated her dislike with the jokes and people still repeat it, but this is like her first time addressing it.
Equally easy to just ignore the comment and move on
@@XtevenGan Agreed tbh but at the same time I feel like she could be under a bit of stress rn and its not a feesh-level moment so I'm willing to let it go lmao.
No matter how much you paint over, no matter how much you try. It will always paint into Black, and Millie is painting her like a Mishapen Painting
Time to wake the sleepers. . .
One of the older parrot vid mentioned kronii birthday merch not selling out. I can see why now lmao.
Her merch didn't sell out because she doesn't like being sexually harassed?
@@quintonheimann s*xually harassed? Bro you and Kronii are in an urgent need of taking a break of this entire VTubing thing, you guys are taking it way too real... commenting on a f*ing 2D model, a f*ing drawing ffs, does not in any way, shape or form harasses the talent behind it. The separation between the model and the talent who moves it, is THE MAIN IDEA behind vtubing to begin with, people become VTubers to detach their real identity and self from being personalized...
lol "going to spread some positivity on your TL" is just code word for "let's just sweep this under the rug", like that one time BTS army tried to cover up their idol's car accident that they caused lmao.