Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Countdown 00:09:53 - Introduction and admin 00:13:16 - Service count, scenarios 00:20:07 - Service #1 - Train 817 Long Beach - NY Penn (M9 run) 01:23:22 - Service #2 - Train 18 NY Penn - Babylon (bonus service as Matt misclicked!) 01:25:41 - Service #3 - Train 150 Atlantic Terminal - Babylon (M7 run, plus abandoned Woodhaven station) 02:08:30 - Service #4 - Train 2804 Jamaica - Far Rockaway (M9 night run, NY skyline) 02:21:00 - Scenario - Double Duty (Guard/Conductor Mode Scenario) 02:40:09 - NY Penn Station walkaround 02:44:10 - Scenario Planner 02:46:15 - Outro and Final Admin
Usually, I don't like the American routes and I'm in New York so when I play the routes, I can tell what's missing, but you guys did a good job on this one
TOD4 - the lighting that makes your cab completely overexposed the cloudier it gets. But it is nice that this route looks like more what you expect from a railroad.
That's the point you don't have it unlike me that does have the old one this is clearly not a new route and they even went and said it's very similar....but the fan boys will lap it up as they always do
@@Grumpy_Englishman yes exactly, I mean it genuinely looks good and fun. but it is not a new route. and for people who don't have the route, it's nice that the route costs $40 (even though that alone is way too much).but the people who do have the route are screwed so hard. because if you have already bought the m3 and you also want this extension, you literally pay $80 for this route alone. people forget that dovetail is not a happy community that cares about everyone, it is simply a company that cares a lot about your wallet.
@steg3340 Have no idea where you're coming from.. sure they say it's similar because it is the same route, but made from scratch with new PIS, new M9, redone M7 and so much more. Sure, you already purchased the older one but you can't say it's the same.. find one similarity that doesn't include the route or trains.
honestly, i would have loved the Port Washington branch since it's longer and the M9 can apparently operate on it. The long beach branch is about 6.1 miles. I still think this route is quite small. Hopefully in the future we get other parts of LIRR As a separate route, something like Babylon branch for example.
Thanks for the preview. Route looks great - already pre-ordered. Looking forward to Waterloo-Portsmouth line (UK) in the near future and would pay good money for that (fingers crossed), as the TS version seems a little outdated now unfortunately…
Looks good. More realistic and busier than this route used to be. Still think this sort of content should be made free or at a discounted rate for those of us that brought the original route when it came out 5 years ago. Also teasing us with branch lines which still fall short of their entirety. Ie. Ronkonkoma, Babylon and far rock
@@cActUsjUiCe92 hey buddy i been having some major issues with TSW4 on PC Steam with blurry tracks right in front also on the sides of the trains and signs and posters at stations its clear to see on my streams over the past week and wanted to ask u if it could be one of the many mods i use on TSW4 i got a few route enhancement mods and ballest ones
The track rails must reflect the train lights in a aggressive manner in the evening, tunnels and underground. They should shine - like in real life. The rails are steel and serve as a natural reflection from the strong lights - head lights coming from the train/loco. Otherwise, excellent job on the LIRR.
Does ATC on LIRR immediately apply a penalty brake application (i.e, it does not give you time to react and put the train into ATC Forestall)? I noticed in the second run that ACSES does seem to give you time to react. Also, how do real LIRR engineers know if they will be crossing over tracks, since the signalling can be unpredictable (e.g., you get a Clear signal but you will be crossing over)? Does the dispatcher tell them in advance or is it memorization?
When cab signals downgrade (70 to 40, for example) the Automatic Speed Control system will automatically apply brakes. In cases where you switch on a Clear signal, you won't really know until you're right on top of it. You may know in advance if the dispatcher tells you or you are intimately familiar with that service's pathing.
no one mentions that when he enters the tunnel at 1:10:45 he passes through all the walls, before during and after the bend. seriously it's abused it's been like this since 2020
@@LIRRFAN426 but Babylon route isn’t even as long as the Trenton line. It has has express trains and loco (same with metro north) and Ronkonkoma shouldn’t really take much to make since it passes most stops anyway to Hicksville. Not to mention Ronkonkoma is like 39 minutes away from Hicksville. It don’t gotta be pitch perfect but Jesus!!
They really need to expand on this route a lot more in the future, because funny enough they have branches that can be set for the Babylon route and the Far Rockaway route. I still don't agree with the route being $40, this should have been like a massive update in my opinion but oh well.
It also required an entire dev team. The closest comparison is sehs extended but that required you to purchase some sort of tsw3 to get it so not really free. That also didn't include brand new trains
That's a big grey area considering licensing and what mta wants dtg to do. There's always a possibility that mta will find out and see that dtg are allowing it and potentially affect relationships in the future. Sure it's inevitable but the risk is always there
@@GooseWaffe people will always figure out how to do things outside of a game. However this is what mta demanded dtg to do in order to keep the license and make the content.
Bit shameful to act like you've done enough to warrant people paying full price for what is a small update and a new MU. This DLC needs to sell poorly. Otherwise, expect this for the next 24 months.
@@potatoman451 if a company releases an expensive phone that looks exactly like the previous one, but has a few minor differences, you don't buy it. this is the same case. This expansion cost money to make, and I would understand why they charge money for it, but $39.99? that is simply absurd. especially for the people who already have the route. I don't think this DLC should sell much because Dovetail should know that they can't do things like this. and they have done the same with steam trains. because steam trains no longer generated money for them, they stopped further developing these steam trains. while almost everyone in this community wants steam trains, but instead of making the steam trains better they throw the entire project away. the only reason they do absurd things like this is because they have a monopoly on train simulators. so no, this dlc should not sell much. remember this is a company not a happy community, they don't care about you but about your wallet.
They can't. The route is set in 2017/2018. Grand central requires it to be set in 2023 which also means the track needs to be updated as well so it's unlikely to happen
@@TheSeaddy10473 europe is right in their backyard and are basically dtgs best friend. Us is much more challenging with less access to reference material or general operations irl
I understand the reasons for having safety systems on by default, but it's a huge mistake not to be able to turn off the alerter. It's a game not real life, the option should be there so I won't be getting this.
@@potatoman451 I'd like them to consider players with APD that will not be able to drive with the alerter switched on. Those with aural disabilities shouldn't have to pass a medical to play it. Make it come on by default if you must, but allow it to be switched off for those with accessibility requirements.
@@addams323 well dtgs hands are tied. Go tell that to mta who have the final say. It's not about accessibility. Like I said, if dtg don't comply with mta, the license would be lost and we no longer can get any mta content. That's what mta specifically demanded. Have safety systems on at all times due to safety concerns irl.
@@addams323 look i know its disappointing but due to vandalism taking place the mta cannot allow DTG to put in a real life panel if you want to 3 still has it but it will not be compatible with the 4
As a new Yorker, it's a shame airplanes aren't even being considered to be added to this route. Stop being lazy Dovetail and treat US routes like the European routes.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Countdown
00:09:53 - Introduction and admin
00:13:16 - Service count, scenarios
00:20:07 - Service #1 - Train 817 Long Beach - NY Penn (M9 run)
01:23:22 - Service #2 - Train 18 NY Penn - Babylon (bonus service as Matt misclicked!)
01:25:41 - Service #3 - Train 150 Atlantic Terminal - Babylon (M7 run, plus abandoned Woodhaven station)
02:08:30 - Service #4 - Train 2804 Jamaica - Far Rockaway (M9 night run, NY skyline)
02:21:00 - Scenario - Double Duty (Guard/Conductor Mode Scenario)
02:40:09 - NY Penn Station walkaround
02:44:10 - Scenario Planner
02:46:15 - Outro and Final Admin
Usually, I don't like the American routes and I'm in New York so when I play the routes, I can tell what's missing, but you guys did a good job on this one
Yeah, 100% agree
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lol, been living in NYC for a week, now you’re an officianado on rail operations here. 😂
What's wrong with American train routes?
@@SquidCena they are boring compared to the European routes.
TOD4 - the lighting that makes your cab completely overexposed the cloudier it gets. But it is nice that this route looks like more what you expect from a railroad.
Use reshade
'Most things on the railway are the way that they are because something has happened', i learnt that very quickly in training XD
Awesome job DTG. This is how all US routes should be built!!!
33:18-33:36, They talk about the MTA (7) Subway line. I got some hope y’all.
Great stream with wonderful insight from Brandon. The route looks good as well, I hope you make more routes on the east coast.
With all the time tables added I really hope the full Babylon branch is added one day.
Agreed. So we can have some diesel action!
Nice to see Brandon on. From NEC group to working with DTG.
The best part was "Will there be anyone hiding in the bathroom?" 😂
Congratulations all involved, it looks great 🎉
Love the whole look and feel
It's good that the daytime over exposure has been dialled down 🙂
2:13:08 finally get to see where this branch goes!
Despite being an add - on already (of which I don’t have), this will be a purchase for me. Good job Dovetail and I'm looking forward to the M9!
That's the point you don't have it unlike me that does have the old one this is clearly not a new route and they even went and said it's very similar....but the fan boys will lap it up as they always do
@@Grumpy_Englishman Please use punctuation.
@@Grumpy_Englishman yes exactly, I mean it genuinely looks good and fun. but it is not a new route. and for people who don't have the route, it's nice that the route costs $40 (even though that alone is way too much).but the people who do have the route are screwed so hard. because if you have already bought the m3 and you also want this extension, you literally pay $80 for this route alone. people forget that dovetail is not a happy community that cares about everyone, it is simply a company that cares a lot about your wallet.
@steg3340 Have no idea where you're coming from.. sure they say it's similar because it is the same route, but made from scratch with new PIS, new M9, redone M7 and so much more.
Sure, you already purchased the older one but you can't say it's the same.. find one similarity that doesn't include the route or trains.
@@PROTSW4bugs 🐜
Awesome video !! I hope in the future , they do the Far Rockaway branch . Plus , the West Hempstead branch.
I’m so impressed with train sounds.excellent job❤
honestly, i would have loved the Port Washington branch since it's longer and the M9 can apparently operate on it. The long beach branch is about 6.1 miles. I still think this route is quite small. Hopefully in the future we get other parts of LIRR As a separate route, something like Babylon branch for example.
the m9 looks realistic! nice job DTG!
Thanks for the preview. Route looks great - already pre-ordered. Looking forward to Waterloo-Portsmouth line (UK) in the near future and would pay good money for that (fingers crossed), as the TS version seems a little outdated now unfortunately…
33:37 Yo thats were i usually railfan (sort of)
Looks good. More realistic and busier than this route used to be. Still think this sort of content should be made free or at a discounted rate for those of us that brought the original route when it came out 5 years ago. Also teasing us with branch lines which still fall short of their entirety. Ie. Ronkonkoma, Babylon and far rock
100% down for this one hello to Catus juice cant wait for this rework to be released this is by far TSW4's biggest release this year so far
Hello!
@@cActUsjUiCe92 hey buddy i been having some major issues with TSW4 on PC Steam with blurry tracks right in front also on the sides of the trains and signs and posters at stations its clear to see on my streams over the past week and wanted to ask u if it could be one of the many mods i use on TSW4 i got a few route enhancement mods and ballest ones
The track rails must reflect the train lights in a aggressive manner in the evening, tunnels and underground. They should shine - like in real life. The rails are steel and serve as a natural reflection from the strong lights - head lights coming from the train/loco. Otherwise, excellent job on the LIRR.
Can't wait for this to release
Much appreciated already reserved my copy!!
Does ATC on LIRR immediately apply a penalty brake application (i.e, it does not give you time to react and put the train into ATC Forestall)? I noticed in the second run that ACSES does seem to give you time to react.
Also, how do real LIRR engineers know if they will be crossing over tracks, since the signalling can be unpredictable (e.g., you get a Clear signal but you will be crossing over)? Does the dispatcher tell them in advance or is it memorization?
You have about 7 seconds to react and do the correct steps. It's all in the manual
When cab signals downgrade (70 to 40, for example) the Automatic Speed Control system will automatically apply brakes.
In cases where you switch on a Clear signal, you won't really know until you're right on top of it. You may know in advance if the dispatcher tells you or you are intimately familiar with that service's pathing.
Its very cool but the DM30s wouldve been so cool to seeee
Ronkonkoma branch when? Montauk branch when? :p
in the year 2077 lmao
Can't have everything.
Did Matt sit on his mic? It's very muffled. 🙉
Looks so great
As bad as Dovetail routes often are, I LOVE THIS! I'M AUSSIE AND I LOVE THIS! SO EXCITED TO WATCH TRAINS AT JAMAICA!
no one mentions that when he enters the tunnel at 1:10:45 he passes through all the walls, before during and after the bend. seriously it's abused it's been like this since 2020
But remember, they've built this from the ground up...
I actually did not see anything? Where am I supposed to be looking?
@@Trainsallday left and right
we notice that the train passes through the walls before the tunnel and during the turn
I see everything regular, indeed I see much improved compared to the original version of tsw 2020
Great to see JD back
The route has nice scenery but still hella short. At least make it go to Babylon or ronkonkoma
57 miles takes a lot of effort to make. Even driving that distance takes a while
@@potatoman451 so was trenton to penn station. Yet dovetail made it work…..a few errors but they made it work….i play it
@@Timvf.x it's still far from short. Depending on budget and time, they can't always make everything
@@Timvf.xThe big difference with Trenton is that it is fully linear, while this LIRR a route has many branches which makes it take more effort to add.
@@LIRRFAN426 but Babylon route isn’t even as long as the Trenton line. It has has express trains and loco (same with metro north) and Ronkonkoma shouldn’t really take much to make since it passes most stops anyway to Hicksville. Not to mention Ronkonkoma is like 39 minutes away from Hicksville. It don’t gotta be pitch perfect but Jesus!!
They really need to expand on this route a lot more in the future, because funny enough they have branches that can be set for the Babylon route and the Far Rockaway route. I still don't agree with the route being $40, this should have been like a massive update in my opinion but oh well.
It also required an entire dev team. The closest comparison is sehs extended but that required you to purchase some sort of tsw3 to get it so not really free. That also didn't include brand new trains
Also, coming to a stop in or near full application is guaranteed to prematurely wear out equipment and throw the passengers around.
Eh this isn't real life
@@potatoman451 fair enough
Nice, and I love it. ❤
love it
Fr: Comment éteindre l'allarme di train sur PS5 ?
Will the M9 have the same “Train Number” feature as the M7 as it does in real life?
Yes
I wonder why Dovetail didn’t add DE30AC. I felt like they could’ve added it with original creation of the LIRR main line DLC.
I would've loved those to be added that's alot of potential, but prolly cuz they had to make the cars for it to
Reduce Szenario crashes my game
First mod for this route will probably disable the safety systems lol. Great looking route though!
That's a big grey area considering licensing and what mta wants dtg to do. There's always a possibility that mta will find out and see that dtg are allowing it and potentially affect relationships in the future. Sure it's inevitable but the risk is always there
Still no station Announcements On board the train 👎
Well it's not going to come for a while unfortunately
@potatoman451 yeah that is unfortunate
What about for xbox
What about xbox
It's a shame that the licensers wanted the realism taken away for 'Safety concerns' If people want to find something out they'll find something out.
they only did it because of the wave of vandalism thats been happening mostly in the subway. probably wouldnt want to teach ppl how to do things
@@HighlightDarkness oh yeah i understand that but also, to only teach people how to drive using the safety systems is surely a step backwards?
probably was to prevent implementation of fuses for the same reason
@@GooseWaffe people will always figure out how to do things outside of a game. However this is what mta demanded dtg to do in order to keep the license and make the content.
@@potatoman451 oh yeah i know, not complaining at DtG at all, they're doing what they're told in order to create content which is perfectly fair.
Bit shameful to act like you've done enough to warrant people paying full price for what is a small update and a new MU.
This DLC needs to sell poorly. Otherwise, expect this for the next 24 months.
If it sells poorly, then they don't have the funds to patch it lol or we don't get extensions again lol
And I'm ok with that if they're going to charge full price for them. @potatoman451
Route extensions and/or upgrades have already proven welcome and fairly popular, content like this is unlikely to go away
@@potatoman451 if a company releases an expensive phone that looks exactly like the previous one, but has a few minor differences, you don't buy it. this is the same case. This expansion cost money to make, and I would understand why they charge money for it, but $39.99? that is simply absurd. especially for the people who already have the route. I don't think this DLC should sell much because Dovetail should know that they can't do things like this. and they have done the same with steam trains. because steam trains no longer generated money for them, they stopped further developing these steam trains. while almost everyone in this community wants steam trains, but instead of making the steam trains better they throw the entire project away. the only reason they do absurd things like this is because they have a monopoly on train simulators. so no, this dlc should not sell much. remember this is a company not a happy community, they don't care about you but about your wallet.
we WANT this content. the community WANTS this content. read the room
Do you guys have any plans to do LIRR to Grand Central? .... I may know a guy....
They can't. The route is set in 2017/2018. Grand central requires it to be set in 2023 which also means the track needs to be updated as well so it's unlikely to happen
@@potatoman451 exactly so no gcm no platform f at jamaica and no elmont usb stop or 3rd mainline track
@@MTARaylz also grand central is hella big with many tracks. Plus it’s not really far to get to after woodside.
They put so much effort in Europe routes why not the LIRR and Metro north update the game and spend the time
@@TheSeaddy10473 europe is right in their backyard and are basically dtgs best friend. Us is much more challenging with less access to reference material or general operations irl
Hello is this game out already for PS5 I want to buy it and add it on my TSW4 game
The game is already out the dlc releases on the 30th
Playing this on ps4
This is a birthday gift to myself lol
What's the price? I hope it's not overpriced.
$40
It's full price. 20% off on steam preorder + owner of original
20% off for me. Bought it !
10% off on Xbox with gamepass
$39.99 so if you already own the original route i would say: yes it is definitly overpriced
I understand the reasons for having safety systems on by default, but it's a huge mistake not to be able to turn off the alerter. It's a game not real life, the option should be there so I won't be getting this.
Then we have no route at all. Would you want no route? Dtg have to comply with mta or they face consequences and we have no more mta anymore
@@potatoman451 I'd like them to consider players with APD that will not be able to drive with the alerter switched on. Those with aural disabilities shouldn't have to pass a medical to play it. Make it come on by default if you must, but allow it to be switched off for those with accessibility requirements.
@@addams323 well dtgs hands are tied. Go tell that to mta who have the final say. It's not about accessibility. Like I said, if dtg don't comply with mta, the license would be lost and we no longer can get any mta content. That's what mta specifically demanded. Have safety systems on at all times due to safety concerns irl.
@@addams323 look i know its disappointing but due to vandalism taking place the mta cannot allow DTG to put in a real life panel if you want to 3 still has it but it will not be compatible with the 4
As a new Yorker, it's a shame airplanes aren't even being considered to be added to this route. Stop being lazy Dovetail and treat US routes like the European routes.
So they don't do one small thing and all of a sudden they are lazy. You realize that other dlcs from other devs also don't have planes
@@potatoman451 There lazy for not giving the whole route such as Ronkonkama etxended etc
@@TheSeaddy10473 it's a ton of work